=== GridCube_ is now known as GridCube [06:53] thanks bluesabre [09:42] pleia2: are we still planning to do "Create user survey 2: Xubuntu preferences to help inform us whether defaults satisfy userbase" ? [15:50] ochosi, ping [16:33] elfy: i am tinkering around with the ISO tracker... would a script producing this information (live data) help you in any way? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11476521/ [16:33] formatting can be changed to your liking ;) [17:29] knome: pong [17:29] ochosi: No. [17:30] Unit193: ? [17:36] no to pinging knome? [17:46] dkessel: kind of , a level deeper would be more [17:46] hi ochosi [17:48] elfy: what exactly is missing? user info or bug info? [17:50] dkessel: what's it for though? rather - why are you looking? [18:08] bbabl [18:18] I looked at the item that says "draw data from the tracker" or something on the qa blueprint [18:20] elfy: ^ [18:21] oh right [18:22] It should be possible to integrate the output of the script wherever it is needed [18:22] dkessel: that'd be sufficient for that [18:23] is this script easy to run and modify? [18:24] well it is python ;) my first draft: https://code.launchpad.net/~dkessel/+junk/python-qatracker-xubuntu [18:25] It should be possible to run that out of the box. I modified the example hidden behind the API link on the tracker [18:26] that blueprint item was something that ochosi and I were discussing mid vivid [18:29] so it's possible I'll discard the idea [18:30] personally it would be quite useful if I could get an LP name with test reported number [18:33] I'm not sure if the user names are returned through the api, but I could have a look. The blueprint is saying something like weekly stats, which could be possible. [18:34] Also, there is this work item for knome about "more meaningful data". I wonder what exactly that is. [18:34] right - not sure this is something you should spend too much time on :) [18:35] that is mostly about the same thing - given that I'm not going to be manually extracting info for the QA incentive thing [18:37] dkessel: also while the blueprint has stuff on it - I'm still looking at it - so it's not finished really [18:43] elfy: just trying to be useful while I have one or two days to spare ;) but I guess it's just too early in the cycle then [18:44] yea I understand that - but probably is too early [18:46] that said if that script could tell me that in 64bit on day x we had so many of each done - eg summary of the numbers on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds/92402/testcases [18:47] then I would use it - currently I'd be opening up a weeks worth at a time to look [18:47] which is a pita [18:54] I think I can make that a list sorted by day. CSV output might be nice for a spreadsheet or something [19:00] that'd be rather useful to me :) [19:06] Good :) [20:56] evening all [20:58] No. [21:59] Yes [21:59] evening ochosi [22:00] evening bluesabre [22:00] and thanks for the affirmative word :) [22:01] :) [22:01] soooo [22:01] I just got excited, didn't know this existed in the api :) [22:01] https://lazka.github.io/pgi-docs/#Gtk-3.0/classes/ApplicationWindow.html#Gtk.ApplicationWindow [22:01] i talked to the elementary folks, they're (as expected) not interested in our LO effort [22:01] indeed [22:05] oh, sounds nice, i also didn't know. but then again i haven't actively dealt with gtkapplication [22:06] I use it very very hackily with menulibre (and I think maybe catfish) [22:06] that will make it less hacky :) [22:06] :) [22:07] I was thinking wtih CSD catfish, maybe using a split headerbar (https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/files/2014/01/Screenshot-from-2014-01-13-081511.png), folder selection and sidebar filters on left [22:08] Unit193: while the elementary folks weren't excited about the LO icons thing, xubuntu-core got quite some praise! [22:08] bluesabre: yeah, that could work [22:08] otherwise, this is easy to accomplish, http://i.imgur.com/ILlFtuW.png [22:09] well, you can always start with this and move to the split headerbar [22:09] yeah [22:09] thats the plan [22:09] i guess what's nice about the split is that the folder-selection and the filter somehow belong together [22:09] without the sidebar, the separator might look a bit over the top [22:10] yeah [22:10] if I went with the split, the sidebar would always be displayed [22:10] but anyway, starting with the low-hanging fruit is probably good [22:10] mhm [22:10] also, i wanted to ask you whether you had a minute or two to test and quickly review a commit for xfpm (eric is on holidays) [22:11] sure [22:11] i think you might've tested it before, rebased it on master now [22:11] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4499 [22:11] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 4499 in General "Display percentage and battery time next to icon" [Enhancement,Assigned] [22:11] i can't properly test this atm because my laptop burned down [22:11] so i have this old laptop without battery [22:11] not really ideal for this feature [22:12] true [22:12] and my new one takes anther 3 weeks to arrive :'( [22:12] just use the latest patch? [22:12] yup [22:12] cool [22:13] it'll take me a bit, will add the patch to the 1.5 package and install that way (so I don't trash my system) [22:13] sure [22:13] no rush [22:13] but i think after that small feature, i'm ready for 1.5.1 [22:14] it's a bit early, but the bugs in 1.5.0 with the icons are just too annoying [22:14] +1 [22:14] and this way at least there's a new feature to test [22:14] btw, i'm not sure the patch will cleanly apply on top of 1.5.0 [22:14] you need git master [22:17] ochosi, did you mean "you need a git, master" [22:17] ochosi: so it seems :( [22:17] bluesabre: didnt we set up a daily built xfpm somewhere at some point? [22:20] oh right, thats in https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [22:22] heh, there you go ;) [22:40] ochosi: its installed [22:40] what do you need me to test? [22:40] this sums it up: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4499#c33 [22:41] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 4499 in General "Display percentage and battery time next to icon" [Enhancement,Assigned] [22:41] btw, i've meanwhile replaced 30 icons for LO, this is really quite a bit of work [22:44] for some reason, not getting any label here [22:45] screener of xfce4-settings-editor with the property plz? [22:45] maybe its because my battery is so full [22:46] http://i.imgur.com/ZhQL6eE.png [22:46] if it is, then yes, the label is hidden [22:46] it depends on whether upower says your battery is still charging or not [22:46] not on the load-level [22:47] I see [22:47] suppose I should play a game to empty it out a bit then [22:47] :) [22:47] you can check with "upower -d" whether it's charging or not [22:47] the property looks ok though [22:48] so in case the patch got applied, everything *should* be working [22:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/11482893/ [22:51] hmmm [22:51] sry, not sure now why that's not working :( [22:52] I think upower 0.99 is no good with my laptop... I'm definitely no longer charging [22:53] also, GTK's hiding scrollbars kind of suck compared to Ubuntu's, I don't need the scrollbars to cover up the content I'm scrolling through :\ [22:54] (gtk 3.16) [22:55] hmm [22:55] yeah, haven't tested those yet [22:56] meh, adding a modified zip folder to /usr/share/libreoffice/share/config/ obviously isn't enough to make the theme show up in the LO icon theme selector [22:56] yeah, for other non-official themes, they end up replacing the theme with tango [22:57] ? [22:58] http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=143474 [22:58] rename your zip to images_crystal.zip and replace the existing one [22:59] actually i made it show up now [22:59] oh cool [22:59] it has to go in /usr/lib... [22:59] for whatever reason [22:59] the icons don't show up yet though, something's clearly not working right [23:00] i have no idea how they create the zips [23:00] maybe there's something special about them [23:00] * bluesabre shrugs [23:02] http://i.imgur.com/EvwYcYH.png [23:03] fancy theme [23:03] :p [23:03] yeah, i prefer it to the "human" theme :) [23:10] ok, got it working now [23:11] nice [23:13] i think the best way to make this available for testing is the zip [23:13] we should just create a package that installs that and a symlink to it in the right place [23:13] maybe you can take a peek at the packaging [23:13] i think if we only want to replace the essential icons, we can do that this cycle easily [23:14] thing that cause the most work is that they have ridiculous icon size like 26x26 [23:16] http://i.imgur.com/VE2Pg0N.png [23:16] think i'll focus on the toolbar and the primary menus [23:30] ochosi: sure, I can investigate creating a package with this... maybe we can set up a branch for it to to work with [23:30] should be fairly easy [23:30] yeah [23:30] the final package does very little [23:30] http://i.imgur.com/kkuTCRP.png [23:32] soon, most of the horrible orange icons will be gone btw [23:32] :D [23:33] * bluesabre doesn't suggest that he likes Human/Humanity [23:33] and ochosi is using adwaita? [23:33] :o [23:33] no, that's only cause i was testing a local copy of greybird and synaptic wanted root [23:34] ah, gotcha [23:34] so many horrible icons [23:34] oh lord, that'll be a nice piece of work [23:37] question: can you somehow make the zip-ification of the theme take place in the packaging? [23:37] i mean theoretically i guess i could script it, too [23:37] thing is i would prefer to keep the whole icon theme somewhere as source files in git or something [23:37] and then the zip is needed for packaging, so i could push that to a separate branch or something from which to build the package [23:38] or keep it there in the same branch even [23:39] yeah [23:39] we can do that [23:39] make a branch and drop all of the folder structure in a subfolder, we can zip that structure [23:41] so zipping in the packaging? [23:41] yes [23:43] cool [23:43] that'd be perfect [23:43] so the next question is: git or bzr [23:44] either, shimmerproject exists in both :) [23:44] :) [23:45] if you dont care at all, i'll go for github [23:46] go for it [23:46] okeydokey [23:46] i'll have something for you to work with in a few minutes [23:48] cool [23:56] bluesabre: there you go: https://github.com/shimmerproject/libreoffice-style-elementary [23:56] hmm [23:56] i wonder whether the subfolder was a good idea... [23:56] since you said you can zip it up in the packaging [23:57] but either way, that's a hint: the zip has to have that name: images_elementary.zip [23:57] i'll remove the folder again now [23:58] ochosi: sure [23:58] I'll actually add a makefile that does the zipping, and the package will be easy because of that [23:58] so it won't be debian only [23:58] :) [23:59] cool