| jak2000 | i want add a user as sudoer, but cant: sudo vi /etc/sudoers dit an sae but cant save the message always is: "E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override)" how to fix it? | 01:23 |
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| tyler_wylie | jak2000: can't you just add someoen to the wheel group? otherwise aren't you supposed to use visudo | 01:35 |
| pmatulis | the wheel group? is that freebsd? | 01:35 |
| tyler_wylie | pmatulis: most *nix's | 01:36 |
| tyler_wylie | pmatulis: unless something's changed recently | 01:36 |
| pmatulis | jak2000: not sure why you are getting that error but try doing what it says (:w! or :x!) | 01:36 |
| jak2000 | pmatulis solved with visudo | 01:36 |
| pmatulis | jak2000: right, was going to mention that too | 01:37 |
| tyler_wylie | looks like wheel is most linux / freebsd but not debian/ubuntu, hm | 01:37 |
| tyler_wylie | eitherway, visudo the way to go to edit /etc/sudoers. | 01:37 |
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| diytto | hey guys i have 1TB of space on my server allocated to my / partition and i can't use it. is there any way to remedy this? | 04:14 |
| linuxmint | Hello, what command lets me see what actions my server did last night? The auto backups has over filled the disk. | 04:21 |
| linuxmint | I can't find where the incomplete backups went to before the disk was filled. | 04:22 |
| linuxmint | I can see the top 10 largest files, in /var, but I don't think I can delete those files. | 04:22 |
| linuxmint | Ok, I deleted a bunch of files, which gives my disk 91.3% space. | 04:30 |
| linuxmint | I need to clear the incomplete backups, so the end of this month's auto backups will have enough space to complete and not freeze up the server. | 04:31 |
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| gartral|2 | hey all after doing a release upgrade my apache configurations are broken, any ideas? | 05:44 |
| Seveas | gartral|2: that's not entirely surprising, apache changes things frequently. What's the error? | 05:45 |
| gartral|2 | Seveas: the ever unhelpful: apache2_reload: Your configuration is broken. Not restarting Apache 2 | 05:46 |
| Seveas | check the apache logs | 05:47 |
| gartral|2 | Seveas: no errors that I see... http://paste.ubuntu.com/11489955/ | 05:49 |
| Seveas | gartral|2: hmm, and what does /etc/init.d/apache2 configtest say? | 05:52 |
| gartral|2 | Seveas: configtest isn't an option | 05:55 |
| Seveas | then my apache knowledge is a bit rusty it seems :) | 05:55 |
| gartral|2 | Usage: apache2 {start|stop|graceful-stop|restart|reload|force-reload|start-htcacheclean|stop-htcacheclean} | 05:55 |
| Seveas | try this: apache2 -t | 05:56 |
| Seveas | (not the initscript, the actual binary) | 05:56 |
| gartral|2 | AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} | 05:58 |
| Seveas | ding! | 06:00 |
| gartral|2 | /etc/apache2/apache2.conf doesn't exist... | 06:00 |
| Seveas | check the relevant config line, look up its documentation, and fix as appropriate | 06:00 |
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| gartral|2 | Seveas: can you do my a favor | 06:43 |
| Seveas | depends on the favor | 06:45 |
| gartral|2 | can you check to see if http://kitsunet.info:1180/phpBB3 is accessable? | 06:46 |
| Seveas | Not Found | 06:53 |
| Seveas | The requested URL /phpBB3 was not found on this server. | 06:53 |
| gartral|2 | Seveas: try again | 07:02 |
| Seveas | I get a vlank forum | 07:05 |
| Seveas | blank* | 07:05 |
| Seveas | so it seems to work :) | 07:05 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:29 |
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| rbasak | jamespage, hallyn: I'll take the squid3 merge. | 10:49 |
| jamespage | rbasak, +1 thanks | 10:55 |
| jamespage | rbasak, do you have time for a quick transitional package type question? | 10:55 |
| rbasak | jamespage: sure | 10:56 |
| jamespage | rbasak, trying to wrap my head around a reverse transition from last cycle | 10:56 |
| jamespage | rbasak, so... | 10:56 |
| jamespage | during vivid we did a transition from python-oslo.XXXX to python-oslo-XXXX which was a little confused due to upstream dropping namespaces | 10:57 |
| jamespage | rbasak, this was not really required, and we're trying to realign with debian to get some scale on packaging at least on the dependency chain | 10:57 |
| jamespage | rbasak, I know I need a breaks/replaces on the switch back to avoid dpkg overwrite problems | 10:57 |
| jamespage | rbasak, but do we need to keep the python-oslo-XXXX packages in Ubuntu as well? | 10:58 |
| rbasak | "from python-oslo.XXXX to python-oslo-XXXX"? | 10:58 |
| rbasak | But whichever way, I don't know of any reason to keep old packages around. | 10:58 |
| rbasak | Not even for one release. | 10:58 |
| rbasak | All the metadata for the transition ends up in debian/control in the new packages. | 10:58 |
| rbasak | Oh, hold on. | 10:59 |
| rbasak | You're talking about binary packages and I thought you were talking about source. | 10:59 |
| jamespage | rbasak, yeah - binaries | 10:59 |
| jamespage | rbasak, look at something like oslo-messaging for example | 10:59 |
| rbasak | Yes, you would need the old binary package names as transitional packages in the new source package. | 10:59 |
| jamespage | rbasak, urgh - that's what I thought | 11:00 |
| rbasak | Otherwise users who have the old binary package installed won't get the new one. | 11:00 |
| rbasak | Need that until the next LTS. | 11:00 |
| jamespage | rbasak, not really - only for one cycle | 11:00 |
| rbasak | Yeah if it was only in a non-LTS | 11:00 |
| jamespage | it is only in a non-LTS | 11:00 |
| jamespage | thank golly for that | 11:00 |
| rbasak | Maybe there's one exception here in your case though. | 11:01 |
| jamespage | rbasak, trying to avoid another delta to maintain | 11:01 |
| rbasak | For you it's a dependency package. So users will end up with the new thing when they upgrade because the higher level thing will depend on the new name. | 11:01 |
| jamespage | rbasak, yeah - its not really a direct installed package | 11:01 |
| jamespage | yup - thats true | 11:02 |
| rbasak | So provided that no user is using the old package without the directly installed package, then you could probably technically get away without the transitional package. | 11:02 |
| rbasak | I'm not sure if it's acceptable to do that or not though. | 11:02 |
| jamespage | rbasak, I did think about abusing Provides | 11:03 |
| rbasak | You will still need to maintain the breaks/replaces anyway, so maybe it's not that much to maintain the transitional on top? | 11:03 |
| jamespage | rbasak, yeah - just trying to get this into debian to be delta free | 11:03 |
| jamespage | rbasak, zigo did say transitional packages would be OK - but FTP master may not think so | 11:03 |
| jamespage | as this is a transition Debian did not do | 11:03 |
| jamespage | only Ubuntu | 11:03 |
| rbasak | jamespage: https://wiki.debian.org/PackageTransition | 11:04 |
| rbasak | Provides is acceptable. | 11:04 |
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| rbasak | jamespage: but you still need transitional packages I think. | 11:04 |
| rbasak | jamespage: otherwise depending on upgrade ordering dpkg will still fail with a file conflict. | 11:04 |
| jamespage | rbasak, I think so yes | 11:05 |
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| trippeh | the sysv-style init scripts should still work in systemd-enabled 15.04 right? | 12:48 |
| trippeh | if there is no matching unit file | 12:49 |
| trippeh | cant get watchdog to start (/dev/watchdog poller) | 12:51 |
| trippeh | huh now it started | 12:51 |
| trippeh | ah. does not start on boot. | 12:54 |
| trippeh | perhaps there is a more modern alternative? | 12:56 |
| rbasak | trippeh: yes, but make sure you use the "service" wrapper to ensure the right thing is called. Calling a sysv script directly when systemd or upstart is in use is dangerous. | 12:56 |
| trippeh | #1448924 | 12:57 |
| trippeh | rbasak: yeah, used "service" | 12:57 |
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| acro458 | Does anyone have any idea if there is a linux program similar to this: http://www.seattlelab.com/slnet_about/ | 15:18 |
| quantic | acro458: uhhh, that just sounds like a telnet server to me... | 15:24 |
| quantic | but maybe I'm really missing something | 15:24 |
| jpds | acro458: What's wrong with SSH? | 15:25 |
| acro458 | It is a telnet server | 15:26 |
| jrwren | do you get a c:\> prompt when using it with windows? | 15:26 |
| acro458 | It is for using openbasic | 15:27 |
| acro458 | through anziowin | 15:27 |
| jrwren | acro458: to what end? | 15:28 |
| acro458 | To connect to the serverdon't need ssh. It is | 15:28 |
| acro458 | To connect to the server | 15:28 |
| acro458 | It doesnt need ssh. It is internal-only. Network not connected to the outside | 15:28 |
| acro458 | Proprietary software | 15:29 |
| acro458 | Need a telnet service that can handle unlimited users | 15:29 |
| jpds | Why would you want to use telnet in 2015? | 15:29 |
| jrwren | acro458: yeah, this does not make any sense to me. | 15:29 |
| * quantic has to be missing something, here. | 15:29 | |
| acro458 | Because I 100% have to. Its my job | 15:29 |
| jrwren | acro458: find a new job ;p | 15:29 |
| quantic | That sounds like a disaster in the making. | 15:29 |
| acro458 | Are you going to pay me? | 15:29 |
| jrwren | apt-get install telnetd | 15:30 |
| jrwren | does what you want. | 15:30 |
| jrwren | its a bad idea. | 15:30 |
| jrwren | I strongly urge you to strongly urge your superiors that this is a bad idea and ssh exists for many many good reasons. | 15:30 |
| acro458 | So I should just pay $15,000 from that website? | 15:30 |
| acro458 | It is an internal network | 15:30 |
| acro458 | why would we need ssh? | 15:31 |
| jrwren | lol. | 15:31 |
| acro458 | It has been running on telnet for 30 years | 15:31 |
| * quantic wouldn't pay ANYONE that can't understand why you simply don't use telnet EVAR. | 15:31 | |
| jrwren | ever heard of stuxnet? | 15:31 |
| jpds | !telnet | acro458 | 15:31 |
| ubottu | acro458: telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh | 15:31 |
| quantic | yeah, welcome to 2015 - there is no such thing as an internal network | 15:32 |
| quantic | and "proprietary software" == "its secure because we said military-grade somewhere in the description" | 15:32 |
| acro458 | If people access the network, we have MUCH bigger problems than us using telnet vs ssh internally | 15:33 |
| jrwren | there are some cases where I might use telnet, like if the network is not at all internet connected. firewalled to internal is not enough. | 15:33 |
| jrwren | AND every node on the network has controlled physical access. | 15:34 |
| quantic | even then, I would feel dirty. :P | 15:34 |
| jrwren | yes, I'd want my keyauth and still use ssh, but I might be OK with deploying some archaic app which uses telnet | 15:34 |
| jrwren | acrocity: afaik, apt-get install telnetd does what you want. | 15:34 |
| quantic | he gone | 15:35 |
| jrwren | oh oops, sorry acrocity | 15:35 |
| jpds | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=telnet | 15:35 |
| jpds | Telnet also hasn't seen an update in years. | 15:35 |
| jrwren | because its "done" and stable :) | 15:36 |
| quantic | text goes in, text goes out | 15:38 |
| jrwren | nc -l <port> | bash & echo <commands> | nc <host> <port> | 15:45 |
| * jpds wonders what happens if you dd /dev/urandom to a telnet server. | 15:49 | |
| * jrwren tries it | 15:50 | |
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| Delemas | I just upgraded from Ubuntu 14.10 to 15.04. The upgrade claimed to have worked but apparently Ubuntu can't deal with /usr on it's own partition as such server can't boot. | 18:39 |
| Delemas | I'm trying to find a way to fix this other than a total reinstall... | 18:40 |
| sarnold | Delemas: you may have success switching back to upstart from systemd | 18:40 |
| sarnold | Delemas: see this for suggestions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers#Permanent_switch_back_to_upstart | 18:41 |
| Delemas | do-release-upgrade should really fail before starting when /usr is a separate mount... | 18:42 |
| Delemas | Trying that. I really hope that does it... | 18:44 |
| Delemas | FML | 18:46 |
| Delemas | Now it doesn't want to mount /var... | 18:48 |
| Delemas | sarnold, Thanks. That made it so it would at least boot with manual proding... | 18:50 |
| sarnold | Delemas: woo :) please do file bug reports.. I know I saw something else recently about a separate /usr giving trouble but I can't recall the setting.. | 18:50 |
| Delemas | hmm I wonder which package I should file against... | 18:54 |
| Delemas | do-release-upgrade? systemd? hmmm | 18:54 |
| sarnold | Delemas: I think both; perhaps first against systemd in the hopes it gets fixed, but also adding do-release-upgrade for trusty might be a good idea, in case it can't easily be fixed in the future :/ | 18:56 |
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| jelly | hey, if debian can make a separate /usr work, so should ubuntu | 19:34 |
| dannf | hallyn: do you think we can fix LP: #1457639 in a vivid sru? do you have other things queued for vivid? | 19:38 |
| dannf | hallyn: (post-debsync-for-wily, of course) | 19:39 |
| Delemas | 2 bugs filed... | 19:40 |
| hallyn | dannf: yes i think that's SRuable. well i didn't look at the patch but it looks important enough | 19:47 |
| hallyn | dannf: i intend to merge from debian tue or wed this week | 19:47 |
| hallyn | thenwe can sru. lemme check my list | 19:47 |
| hallyn | actually my list is empty other sruing the "kvm on all arches" | 19:48 |
| dannf | hallyn: "kvm on all arches"? like a metapackge? | 19:49 |
| dannf | but cool, will touch base with you after the sync | 19:50 |
| hallyn | cool | 19:57 |
| Delemas | For some reason the boot is hung up on mount /var. The entry is correct. I do a mount -av and exit emergency maintenance mode and normal boot occurs... | 19:59 |
| Delemas | I get "The disk drive for /var is not ready yet or not present." it is very weird... | 20:00 |
| dasjoe | I take it a trusty container can't be booted using systemd-nspawn? It just gets stuck: http://paste.debian.net/193379/ | 20:12 |
| Delemas | man... apparently I'm forced to repartition... | 20:40 |
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| trippeh | re earlier, has telnetd been updated for the systemd world? :P | 21:27 |
| * trippeh hides | 21:27 | |
| sarnold | trippeh: it looks like it'll use update-inetd to change its configuration when installed: http://sources.debian.net/src/netkit-telnet/0.17-40/debian/telnetd.postinst/ | 21:31 |
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