[01:23] i want add a user as sudoer, but cant: sudo vi /etc/sudoers dit an sae but cant save the message always is: "E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override)" how to fix it? [01:35] jak2000: can't you just add someoen to the wheel group? otherwise aren't you supposed to use visudo [01:35] the wheel group? is that freebsd? [01:36] pmatulis: most *nix's [01:36] pmatulis: unless something's changed recently [01:36] jak2000: not sure why you are getting that error but try doing what it says (:w! or :x!) [01:36] pmatulis solved with visudo [01:37] jak2000: right, was going to mention that too [01:37] looks like wheel is most linux / freebsd but not debian/ubuntu, hm [01:37] eitherway, visudo the way to go to edit /etc/sudoers. === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [04:14] hey guys i have 1TB of space on my server allocated to my / partition and i can't use it. is there any way to remedy this? [04:21] Hello, what command lets me see what actions my server did last night? The auto backups has over filled the disk. [04:22] I can't find where the incomplete backups went to before the disk was filled. [04:22] I can see the top 10 largest files, in /var, but I don't think I can delete those files. [04:30] Ok, I deleted a bunch of files, which gives my disk 91.3% space. [04:31] I need to clear the incomplete backups, so the end of this month's auto backups will have enough space to complete and not freeze up the server. === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away [05:44] hey all after doing a release upgrade my apache configurations are broken, any ideas? [05:45] gartral|2: that's not entirely surprising, apache changes things frequently. What's the error? [05:46] Seveas: the ever unhelpful: apache2_reload: Your configuration is broken. Not restarting Apache 2 [05:47] check the apache logs [05:49] Seveas: no errors that I see... http://paste.ubuntu.com/11489955/ [05:52] gartral|2: hmm, and what does /etc/init.d/apache2 configtest say? [05:55] Seveas: configtest isn't an option [05:55] then my apache knowledge is a bit rusty it seems :) [05:55] Usage: apache2 {start|stop|graceful-stop|restart|reload|force-reload|start-htcacheclean|stop-htcacheclean} [05:56] try this: apache2 -t [05:56] (not the initscript, the actual binary) [05:58] AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} [06:00] ding! [06:00] /etc/apache2/apache2.conf doesn't exist... [06:00] check the relevant config line, look up its documentation, and fix as appropriate === soren_ is now known as soren === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [06:43] Seveas: can you do my a favor [06:45] depends on the favor [06:46] can you check to see if http://kitsunet.info:1180/phpBB3 is accessable? [06:53] Not Found [06:53] The requested URL /phpBB3 was not found on this server. [07:02] Seveas: try again [07:05] I get a vlank forum [07:05] blank* [07:05] so it seems to work :) [07:29] Good morning. === CiPi is now known as cipi === cipi is now known as CiPi [10:49] jamespage, hallyn: I'll take the squid3 merge. [10:55] rbasak, +1 thanks [10:55] rbasak, do you have time for a quick transitional package type question? [10:56] jamespage: sure [10:56] rbasak, trying to wrap my head around a reverse transition from last cycle [10:56] rbasak, so... [10:57] during vivid we did a transition from python-oslo.XXXX to python-oslo-XXXX which was a little confused due to upstream dropping namespaces [10:57] rbasak, this was not really required, and we're trying to realign with debian to get some scale on packaging at least on the dependency chain [10:57] rbasak, I know I need a breaks/replaces on the switch back to avoid dpkg overwrite problems [10:58] rbasak, but do we need to keep the python-oslo-XXXX packages in Ubuntu as well? [10:58] "from python-oslo.XXXX to python-oslo-XXXX"? [10:58] But whichever way, I don't know of any reason to keep old packages around. [10:58] Not even for one release. [10:58] All the metadata for the transition ends up in debian/control in the new packages. [10:59] Oh, hold on. [10:59] You're talking about binary packages and I thought you were talking about source. [10:59] rbasak, yeah - binaries [10:59] rbasak, look at something like oslo-messaging for example [10:59] Yes, you would need the old binary package names as transitional packages in the new source package. [11:00] rbasak, urgh - that's what I thought [11:00] Otherwise users who have the old binary package installed won't get the new one. [11:00] Need that until the next LTS. [11:00] rbasak, not really - only for one cycle [11:00] Yeah if it was only in a non-LTS [11:00] it is only in a non-LTS [11:00] thank golly for that [11:01] Maybe there's one exception here in your case though. [11:01] rbasak, trying to avoid another delta to maintain [11:01] For you it's a dependency package. So users will end up with the new thing when they upgrade because the higher level thing will depend on the new name. [11:01] rbasak, yeah - its not really a direct installed package [11:02] yup - thats true [11:02] So provided that no user is using the old package without the directly installed package, then you could probably technically get away without the transitional package. [11:02] I'm not sure if it's acceptable to do that or not though. [11:03] rbasak, I did think about abusing Provides [11:03] You will still need to maintain the breaks/replaces anyway, so maybe it's not that much to maintain the transitional on top? [11:03] rbasak, yeah - just trying to get this into debian to be delta free [11:03] rbasak, zigo did say transitional packages would be OK - but FTP master may not think so [11:03] as this is a transition Debian did not do [11:03] only Ubuntu [11:04] jamespage: https://wiki.debian.org/PackageTransition [11:04] Provides is acceptable. === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:04] jamespage: but you still need transitional packages I think. [11:04] jamespage: otherwise depending on upgrade ordering dpkg will still fail with a file conflict. [11:05] rbasak, I think so yes === koolhead_ is now known as koolhead17 === PaulePan1er is now known as PaulePanter [12:48] the sysv-style init scripts should still work in systemd-enabled 15.04 right? [12:49] if there is no matching unit file [12:51] cant get watchdog to start (/dev/watchdog poller) [12:51] huh now it started [12:54] ah. does not start on boot. [12:56] perhaps there is a more modern alternative? [12:56] trippeh: yes, but make sure you use the "service" wrapper to ensure the right thing is called. Calling a sysv script directly when systemd or upstart is in use is dangerous. [12:57] #1448924 [12:57] rbasak: yeah, used "service" === njalk_ is now known as njalk === sym_ is now known as sym [15:18] Does anyone have any idea if there is a linux program similar to this: http://www.seattlelab.com/slnet_about/ [15:24] acro458: uhhh, that just sounds like a telnet server to me... [15:24] but maybe I'm really missing something [15:25] acro458: What's wrong with SSH? [15:26] It is a telnet server [15:26] do you get a c:\> prompt when using it with windows? [15:27] It is for using openbasic [15:27] through anziowin [15:28] acro458: to what end? [15:28] To connect to the serverdon't need ssh. It is [15:28] To connect to the server [15:28] It doesnt need ssh. It is internal-only. Network not connected to the outside [15:29] Proprietary software [15:29] Need a telnet service that can handle unlimited users [15:29] Why would you want to use telnet in 2015? [15:29] acro458: yeah, this does not make any sense to me. [15:29] * quantic has to be missing something, here. [15:29] Because I 100% have to. Its my job [15:29] acro458: find a new job ;p [15:29] That sounds like a disaster in the making. [15:29] Are you going to pay me? [15:30] apt-get install telnetd [15:30] does what you want. [15:30] its a bad idea. [15:30] I strongly urge you to strongly urge your superiors that this is a bad idea and ssh exists for many many good reasons. [15:30] So I should just pay $15,000 from that website? [15:30] It is an internal network [15:31] why would we need ssh? [15:31] lol. [15:31] It has been running on telnet for 30 years [15:31] * quantic wouldn't pay ANYONE that can't understand why you simply don't use telnet EVAR. [15:31] ever heard of stuxnet? [15:31] !telnet | acro458 [15:31] acro458: telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh [15:32] yeah, welcome to 2015 - there is no such thing as an internal network [15:32] and "proprietary software" == "its secure because we said military-grade somewhere in the description" [15:33] If people access the network, we have MUCH bigger problems than us using telnet vs ssh internally [15:33] there are some cases where I might use telnet, like if the network is not at all internet connected. firewalled to internal is not enough. [15:34] AND every node on the network has controlled physical access. [15:34] even then, I would feel dirty. :P [15:34] yes, I'd want my keyauth and still use ssh, but I might be OK with deploying some archaic app which uses telnet [15:34] acrocity: afaik, apt-get install telnetd does what you want. [15:35] he gone [15:35] oh oops, sorry acrocity [15:35] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=telnet [15:35] Telnet also hasn't seen an update in years. [15:36] because its "done" and stable :) [15:38] text goes in, text goes out [15:45] nc -l | bash & echo | nc [15:49] * jpds wonders what happens if you dd /dev/urandom to a telnet server. [15:50] * jrwren tries it === IdleOne- is now known as IdleOne === Joel is now known as Guest62210 === YamakasY is now known as squibby69 === squibby69 is now known as YamakasY [18:39] I just upgraded from Ubuntu 14.10 to 15.04. The upgrade claimed to have worked but apparently Ubuntu can't deal with /usr on it's own partition as such server can't boot. [18:40] I'm trying to find a way to fix this other than a total reinstall... [18:40] Delemas: you may have success switching back to upstart from systemd [18:41] Delemas: see this for suggestions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers#Permanent_switch_back_to_upstart [18:42] do-release-upgrade should really fail before starting when /usr is a separate mount... [18:44] Trying that. I really hope that does it... [18:46] FML [18:48] Now it doesn't want to mount /var... [18:50] sarnold, Thanks. That made it so it would at least boot with manual proding... [18:50] Delemas: woo :) please do file bug reports.. I know I saw something else recently about a separate /usr giving trouble but I can't recall the setting.. [18:54] hmm I wonder which package I should file against... [18:54] do-release-upgrade? systemd? hmmm [18:56] Delemas: I think both; perhaps first against systemd in the hopes it gets fixed, but also adding do-release-upgrade for trusty might be a good idea, in case it can't easily be fixed in the future :/ === katherin_ is now known as katherine === cz2 is now known as cz50 === cz50 is now known as cz2 [19:34] hey, if debian can make a separate /usr work, so should ubuntu [19:38] hallyn: do you think we can fix LP: #1457639 in a vivid sru? do you have other things queued for vivid? [19:39] hallyn: (post-debsync-for-wily, of course) [19:40] 2 bugs filed... [19:47] dannf: yes i think that's SRuable. well i didn't look at the patch but it looks important enough [19:47] dannf: i intend to merge from debian tue or wed this week [19:47] thenwe can sru. lemme check my list [19:48] actually my list is empty other sruing the "kvm on all arches" [19:49] hallyn: "kvm on all arches"? like a metapackge? [19:50] but cool, will touch base with you after the sync [19:57] cool [19:59] For some reason the boot is hung up on mount /var. The entry is correct. I do a mount -av and exit emergency maintenance mode and normal boot occurs... [20:00] I get "The disk drive for /var is not ready yet or not present." it is very weird... [20:12] I take it a trusty container can't be booted using systemd-nspawn? It just gets stuck: http://paste.debian.net/193379/ [20:40] man... apparently I'm forced to repartition... === DenBeiren is now known as zz_DenBeiren [21:27] re earlier, has telnetd been updated for the systemd world? :P [21:27] * trippeh hides [21:31] trippeh: it looks like it'll use update-inetd to change its configuration when installed: http://sources.debian.net/src/netkit-telnet/0.17-40/debian/telnetd.postinst/ === trippeh is now known as trippeold === TheEternalAbyss is now known as Guest77242 === zz_DenBeiren is now known as DenBeiren === alai is now known as alai-afk