=== aaron is now known as ahoneybun [01:57] Good evening, anyone [01:57] Meizu phone out in the USA yet or sometime soon or somethingsa;hfasd? [02:01] not that I have heard Nothing_Much [02:01] ahoneybun, ah darn [02:01] and hello Nothing_Much lol [02:01] still have the Nexus 4 [02:01] and I forgot the difference between lenses and scopes [02:01] lenses? [02:01] yes [02:02] or [02:02] lens [02:02] google's not helpin' out [02:02] yea I think those are only in Unity 7 [02:02] * [02:02] ohh.. so lens are going to be EOL'd? [02:02] not sure [02:03] unfortunately Unity 7's going to still exist until 2021, which is lame because I really wanna use Unity 8 on 16.04! [02:03] though Mark did say something about a new device hitting a more better area [02:03] but Mir's not completed yet, or xmir right? [02:03] Mir [02:03] both [02:03] XMir handles old Xorg apps [02:03] I think [02:03] because Mir is the display server, Xmir is the compatibility layer for xorg apps [02:03] yea [02:04] that reminds me, when's Nvidia/AMD going to release their drivers that support Mir? [02:04] or xmir [02:04] no clue [02:04] that is my mean worry [02:04] no way they will want to support 2 different display servers [02:04] *main [02:05] mine too, but Nvidia already announced support for Mir and Wayland, because they're awesome, even though they don't like FOSS which sucks, but hey, they're willing to work [02:05] they did [02:05] ? [02:05] *because they're nice{* [02:06] AMD is my main concern, honestly, because they're consistently depressing and always focusing on Windows only things, but they're still lagging behind a lot of things, but at least they made Mantle which in turn became Vulkan [02:06] the APU? [02:06] ahoneybun, yes, Nvidia announced support for Mir in one of their keynote things [02:06] ahoneybun, everything AMD makes is depressing [02:06] nice [02:06] APU was pretty nice [02:07] but their most depressing thing is by far FGLRX [02:07] it is very important to not let one rule the market though [02:07] or prices will go though the roof and they will not want to make new awesome things [02:07] that's true, but sadly, if people cared enough, Linux would be at least have 25% of the desktop market :\ [02:07] would have at least 25% of the desktop market* [02:08] we have at least 50-70% of the server market lol [02:08] don't care [02:08] yea i know [02:08] don't care about the server, don't care about Android [02:08] Ubuntu Touch? [02:09] it means nothing for the desktop because there's no brand recognition, but that's why I 100% support both Ubuntu and SteamOS's efforts because the mainstream audience needs something like this to benefit people like myself [02:09] yes, I /love/ the concept of convergence [02:10] ASUS attempted it once with a dockable tablet with a keyboard, but Android sucked hard back then and I eventually sold it because it didn't get my college work done reliably [02:10] but it was fun putting a VNC Debian thing on it [02:10] https://plus.google.com/+PlumLis233/posts/SQxnTsuxojw [02:11] * Nothing_Much throws pocket change at his monitor [02:11] XD [02:11] WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT [02:12] do you have no Ubuntu device? [02:12] ( I also do have massive bias towards Ubuntu ) [02:12] sadly no, lack of money and such because I just go barely over breaking with my job [02:12] I save like, 25$ per month because of it lol [02:13] oh [02:13] I just paid $45 to fix my N4 [02:13] I have the OnePlus One as my main device though [02:13] my hourly rate is $11.20 currently and I have an extremely old blackberry phone thing [02:13] talk and text is all it does [02:13] yikes [02:13] where are you at Nothing_Much? [02:14] lake mary [02:14] and in a gated apartment [02:14] it's awesome [02:14] but yeah, wanting to look at that MKB technology place down the road from here lol [02:14] damn your near Orlando [02:15] is that good or bad? [02:15] its far from me lol [02:15] your near someone in here [02:15] so.. good or bad? [02:15] its fine [02:15] lol [02:16] nice [02:16] plus dont matter what I say lol [02:16] http://imgur.com/QUw2VvY [02:17] ahoneybun, you're tormenting me with those things I don't have :< [02:17] lolol [02:17] XD [02:18] http://imgur.com/PMA8CF0 [02:19] looks like Ubuntu's gonna have apps named like iDevices, except they're uDevices, which will represent the exact opposite of the iDevices :D [02:19] XD [02:19] there are a few [02:20] that you own the device lol [02:20] yes [02:20] actually [02:20] yeah, Apple licenses their products to their customers, right? [02:20] very limited lol [02:20] not even Steve Jobs owned any of his products, he was just licensed to have permission to use his own devices [02:20] http://imgur.com/jZBAPkH [02:21] thinking about it now, Apple truly has become its own living non-creature [02:21] ahoneybun, what's that? [02:21] a talk I did lol [02:21] is that you up there? [02:22] yea lol [02:22] XD [02:22] nice haircut! [02:22] lol [02:22] had some Ubuntu swag too [02:23] nice [02:23] still have some DVD;s [02:23] I'm confused as to how encryption keys work, really [02:23] enc.. what> [02:23] encryption [02:24] like, seahorse within Nautilus is so confusing to me [02:24] there's these "keys" you get, you put them in a file and idk what to do next, my files aren't encrypted so what gives? [02:25] oh for locking files or uploading to LP or something? [02:25] anything, really [02:26] never messed with locking files and such [02:26] only LP and Git [02:26] been wanting to encrypt my passwords, but everything I've tried just outright failed miserably because of a lack of documentation or a lack of GUI [02:26] odd [02:29] never found myself wanting to do that [02:31] well I'm out for today [02:31] night Nothing_Much [02:31] later ahoneybun