[01:57] <Nothing_Much> Good evening, anyone
[01:57] <Nothing_Much> Meizu phone out in the USA yet or sometime soon or somethingsa;hfasd?
[02:01] <ahoneybun> not that I have heard Nothing_Much
[02:01] <Nothing_Much> ahoneybun, ah darn
[02:01] <ahoneybun> and hello Nothing_Much lol
[02:01] <ahoneybun> still have the Nexus 4 
[02:01] <Nothing_Much> and I forgot the difference between lenses and scopes
[02:01] <ahoneybun> lenses?
[02:01] <Nothing_Much> yes
[02:02] <Nothing_Much> or
[02:02] <Nothing_Much> lens
[02:02] <Nothing_Much> google's not helpin' out
[02:02] <ahoneybun> yea I think those are only in Unity 7
[02:02] <ahoneybun> *
[02:02] <Nothing_Much> ohh.. so lens are going to be EOL'd?
[02:02] <ahoneybun> not sure
[02:03] <Nothing_Much> unfortunately Unity 7's going to still exist until 2021, which is lame because I really wanna use Unity 8 on 16.04!
[02:03] <ahoneybun> though Mark did say something about a new device hitting a more better area 
[02:03] <Nothing_Much> but Mir's not completed yet, or xmir right?
[02:03] <ahoneybun> Mir 
[02:03] <Nothing_Much> both
[02:03] <ahoneybun> XMir handles old Xorg apps
[02:03] <ahoneybun> I think
[02:03] <Nothing_Much> because Mir is the display server, Xmir is the compatibility layer for xorg apps
[02:03] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:04] <Nothing_Much> that reminds me, when's Nvidia/AMD going to release their drivers that support Mir?
[02:04] <Nothing_Much> or xmir
[02:04] <ahoneybun> no clue
[02:04] <ahoneybun> that is my mean worry
[02:04] <ahoneybun> no way they will want to support 2 different display servers
[02:04] <ahoneybun> *main
[02:05] <Nothing_Much> mine too, but Nvidia already announced support for Mir and Wayland, because they're awesome, even though they don't like FOSS which sucks, but hey, they're willing to work
[02:05] <ahoneybun> they did
[02:05] <ahoneybun> ?
[02:05] <ahoneybun> *because they're nice{*
[02:06] <Nothing_Much> AMD is my main concern, honestly, because they're consistently depressing and always focusing on Windows only things, but they're still lagging behind a lot of things, but at least they made Mantle which in turn became Vulkan
[02:06] <ahoneybun> the APU?
[02:06] <Nothing_Much> ahoneybun, yes, Nvidia announced support for Mir in one of their keynote things
[02:06] <Nothing_Much> ahoneybun, everything AMD makes is depressing
[02:06] <ahoneybun> nice
[02:06] <ahoneybun> APU was pretty nice
[02:07] <Nothing_Much> but their most depressing thing is by far FGLRX
[02:07] <ahoneybun> it is very important to not let one rule the market though
[02:07] <ahoneybun> or prices will go though the roof and they will not want to make new awesome things
[02:07] <Nothing_Much> that's true, but sadly, if people cared enough, Linux would be at least have 25% of the desktop market :\
[02:07] <Nothing_Much> would have at least 25% of the desktop market*
[02:08] <ahoneybun> we have at least 50-70% of the server market lol
[02:08] <Nothing_Much> don't care
[02:08] <ahoneybun> yea i know
[02:08] <Nothing_Much> don't care about the server, don't care about Android
[02:08] <ahoneybun> Ubuntu Touch?
[02:09] <Nothing_Much> it means nothing for the desktop because there's no brand recognition, but that's why I 100% support both Ubuntu and SteamOS's efforts because the mainstream audience needs something like this to benefit people like myself
[02:09] <Nothing_Much> yes, I /love/ the concept of convergence
[02:10] <Nothing_Much> ASUS attempted it once with a dockable tablet with a keyboard, but Android sucked hard back then and I eventually sold it because it didn't get my college work done reliably
[02:10] <Nothing_Much> but it was fun putting a VNC Debian thing on it
[02:10] <ahoneybun> https://plus.google.com/+PlumLis233/posts/SQxnTsuxojw
[02:11]  * Nothing_Much throws pocket change at his monitor
[02:11] <ahoneybun> XD
[02:11] <Nothing_Much> WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT
[02:12] <ahoneybun> do you have no Ubuntu device?
[02:12] <Nothing_Much> ( I also do have massive bias towards Ubuntu )
[02:12] <Nothing_Much> sadly no, lack of money and such because I just go barely over breaking with my job
[02:12] <Nothing_Much> I save like, 25$ per month because of it lol
[02:13] <ahoneybun> oh
[02:13] <ahoneybun> I just paid $45 to fix my N4
[02:13] <ahoneybun> I have the OnePlus One as my main device though
[02:13] <Nothing_Much> my hourly rate is $11.20 currently and I have an extremely old blackberry phone thing
[02:13] <Nothing_Much> talk and text is all it does
[02:13] <ahoneybun> yikes
[02:13] <ahoneybun> where are you at Nothing_Much?
[02:14] <Nothing_Much> lake mary
[02:14] <Nothing_Much> and in a gated apartment
[02:14] <Nothing_Much> it's awesome
[02:14] <Nothing_Much> but yeah, wanting to look at that MKB technology place down the road from here lol
[02:14] <ahoneybun> damn your near Orlando
[02:15] <Nothing_Much> is that good or bad?
[02:15] <ahoneybun> its far from me lol
[02:15] <ahoneybun> your near someone in here
[02:15] <Nothing_Much> so.. good or bad?
[02:15] <ahoneybun> its fine
[02:15] <ahoneybun> lol
[02:16] <Nothing_Much> nice
[02:16] <ahoneybun> plus dont matter what I say lol
[02:16] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/QUw2VvY
[02:17] <Nothing_Much> ahoneybun, you're tormenting me with those things I don't have :<
[02:17] <Nothing_Much> lolol
[02:17] <ahoneybun> XD
[02:18] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/PMA8CF0
[02:19] <Nothing_Much> looks like Ubuntu's gonna have apps named like iDevices, except they're uDevices, which will represent the exact opposite of the iDevices :D
[02:19] <ahoneybun> XD
[02:19] <ahoneybun> there are a few
[02:20] <ahoneybun> that you own the device lol
[02:20] <Nothing_Much> yes
[02:20] <Nothing_Much> actually
[02:20] <Nothing_Much> yeah, Apple licenses their products to their customers, right?
[02:20] <ahoneybun> very limited lol
[02:20] <Nothing_Much> not even Steve Jobs owned any of his products, he was just licensed to have permission to use his own devices
[02:20] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/jZBAPkH
[02:21] <Nothing_Much> thinking about it now, Apple truly has become its own living non-creature
[02:21] <Nothing_Much> ahoneybun, what's that?
[02:21] <ahoneybun> a talk I did lol
[02:21] <Nothing_Much> is that you up there?
[02:22] <ahoneybun> yea lol
[02:22] <ahoneybun> XD
[02:22] <Nothing_Much> nice haircut!
[02:22] <ahoneybun> lol
[02:22] <ahoneybun> had some Ubuntu swag too
[02:23] <Nothing_Much> nice
[02:23] <ahoneybun> still have some DVD;s
[02:23] <Nothing_Much> I'm confused as to how encryption keys work, really
[02:23] <ahoneybun> enc.. what>
[02:23] <Nothing_Much> encryption
[02:24] <Nothing_Much> like, seahorse within Nautilus is so confusing to me
[02:24] <Nothing_Much> there's these "keys" you get, you put them in a file and idk what to do next, my files aren't encrypted so what gives?
[02:25] <ahoneybun> oh for locking files or uploading to LP or something?
[02:25] <Nothing_Much> anything, really
[02:26] <ahoneybun> never messed with locking files and such
[02:26] <ahoneybun> only LP and Git
[02:26] <Nothing_Much> been wanting to encrypt my passwords, but everything I've tried just outright failed miserably because of a lack of documentation or a lack of GUI
[02:26] <ahoneybun> odd
[02:29] <ahoneybun> never found myself wanting to do that
[02:31] <ahoneybun> well I'm out for today
[02:31] <ahoneybun> night Nothing_Much
[02:31] <Nothing_Much> later ahoneybun