[00:00] <kittyfirekitty> i have, pressing SHIFT while doing restart from windows menu takes me to trouble shooting, been there read that, no options explicitly list legacy/csm yadda yadda
[00:00] <xid> i think they were suggesting running virtual for doing the ISO operations
[00:00] <xid> rather than using windows tools
[00:00] <kittyfirekitty> gotta get a bootable linux setup for the system (i.e. the iso things) before i can even try to virtualize it
[00:01] <krabador> supposing i would run urban terror only in a second monitor ,and only on it, how can i do?
[00:02] <polyphagia> kittyfirekitty: you're trying to install ubuntu?
[00:03] <polyphagia> and windows says it's 32 bit?
[00:03] <kittyfirekitty> i'm trying to boot a live USB
[00:03] <polyphagia> shift on bootup is related to windows, it's not going to help you
[00:03] <kittyfirekitty> yes windows is 32 bit version
[00:03] <polyphagia> ok
[00:03] <polyphagia> so you burned a 32 bit live usb?
[00:03] <kittyfirekitty> no i'm downloading it (3 hours remaining)
[00:03] <polyphagia> oh ok
[00:03] <kittyfirekitty> the cpu is a x64
[00:03] <polyphagia> are you sure?
[00:03] <kittyfirekitty> yes
[00:03] <Ben64> so download the 64 bit iso...
[00:03] <polyphagia> you're using the OEM windows too?
[00:04] <Razzdoll> xid do you know how I can autologin to ubuntu desktop?
[00:04] <kittyfirekitty> i did download the 64bit, i can't virtualize it and i can't get it to boot from the boot menu
[00:04] <polyphagia> why doesn't it boot from the boot menu?
[00:04] <Ben64> you really don't need to run it in virtualbox
[00:04] <xid> Razzdoll: I'm positivie that it's really easy, but honestly I don't know, for Unity. Check google.
[00:04] <polyphagia> i mean you say you're on a 64 bit machine but it sure sounds like it isn't lol
[00:05] <kittyfirekitty> system control panel says: 32bit operation system- x64-based processor
[00:05] <polyphagia> so you managed to get into your bios?
[00:05] <kittyfirekitty> i don't know hwy it won't boot from the boot menu, it only flickers and brings me back to the boot menu
[00:05] <polyphagia> it might be uefi
[00:05] <Razzdoll> xid will do
[00:05] <kittyfirekitty> if i re-enable secure boot, and try the same option it gives me a security error before returning to the menu
[00:06] <BadDream> sounds like the install medium wasnt made bootable
[00:06] <BadDream> or a borked install
[00:06] <kittyfirekitty> its listed as bootable in the storage management snap in
[00:06] <polyphagia> it's weird it didn't say anything though
[00:06] <polyphagia> it should say that it's not bootable
[00:06] <BadDream> wat program did you use to make the bootable iso kittyfirekitty?
[00:06] <kittyfirekitty> it is a fat32 partition, it has the /EFI/BOOT directories
[00:07] <polyphagia> ^
[00:07] <kittyfirekitty> LinuxLive USB Creator -- as suggested from the uefi liveUSB walk through suggestions
[00:07] <polyphagia> hm well pendrive linux is recommended by ubuntu
[00:07] <polyphagia> although yeah idk about uefi
[00:08] <polyphagia> ok
[00:08] <BadDream> ive had alot of success with unetbootin
[00:08] <polyphagia> no
[00:08] <polyphagia> don't use unetbootin
[00:08] <BadDream> works for me
[00:09] <xid> seems like we're just guessing that it's a uefi issue
[00:09] <xid> tried loading the kernel and mounting everything manually from the grub shell?
[00:10] <kittyfirekitty> at what point will i see a grub menu?
[00:10] <xid> oh ... i may have missed something
[00:11] <xid> so i've used stuff like refind to make it find my EFI voume
[00:11] <xid> volume
[00:11] <xid> when all else has failed
[00:11] <xid> but it can be accomplished with other tools like gdisk and fdisk
[00:12] <kittyfirekitty> so this pendrive linux thing, i don't exactly see a 'download for windows' button anywhere, where would i go to achieve this?
[00:13] <Razzdoll> xid: 15.04, does this use LightDM? I see instructions on google, just dont know if I have Light DM
[00:13] <kittyfirekitty> ah they made the universal USB installer instead, reading...
[00:15] <xid> Does unity use lightdm in 15.04? I'm not sure, but if it does, there's a disabled "autologin" line in the default /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf. just uncomment and add your username, i think. something like that.
[00:16] <Razzdoll> xid; thanks. as you can tell I am a noob, but so far.. I'm happy with it over windows
[00:17] <Razzdoll> xid, if I feel lost, theres always virtualbox
[00:18] <gill6150> Still can't get steam games to run..
[00:18] <xid> no problem man. I wish I could help, but I honestly don't have Unity available to me at the moment.
[00:19] <Razzdoll> xid; no its ok', you're helping plenty. As long as I know some what of where to begin and the correct phrases, chances are I could get the answer, it will take time but I always do.
[00:20] <footoleggo> could someone help me set up my proxy connection? :>
[00:21] <gill6150> Just downloaded Ubuntu, and can't get steam games to load.
[00:22] <krabador> how can i run a full game app like a game, only directly on second screen?
[00:24] <Umeaboy> Would it be possible to ONLY have Ubuntu installed on a 2015 Macbook Pro?
[00:25] <Umeaboy> gill6150: What driver are you using?
[00:26] <gill6150> No idea.... Honestly, I'm a complete idiot when it comes to Linux.
[00:27] <Razzdoll> xid; by the way. I got it. It turns out all I had to do was go into User Accounts, click on my name and enter the password and toggle the switch. D'oh!
[00:29] <Umeaboy> gill6150: Open Settings ->Program and Updates-
[00:29] <Umeaboy> Then take a look at the tab called Other drivers.
[00:30] <Umeaboy> Or More Drivers.
[00:30] <Umeaboy> I use Ubuntu with another language than English so it might differ.
[00:30] <gill6150> Umeaboy: It's a Radeon HD 7340
[00:33] <Umeaboy> Then google that name and add Steam to see if anyone else has had problems in Linux and how they solved it (if there IS a solution that is)
[00:34] <Umeaboy> gill6150: ^^
[00:35] <gill6150> Umeaboy:  Thank you, I'll let you know if i figure it out.
[00:35] <Umeaboy> Otherwise you can always switch to the commersial driver from the list and see if THAT works.
[00:36] <gill6150> Commersial driver?
[00:37] <polyphagia> gill6150: steam isn't opening for you?
[00:37] <xid> Razzdoll: nice, I knew there was an easy way.
[00:37] <gill6150> polyphagia:  Steam opens fine, But the games within steam won't run.
[00:38] <polyphagia> did you enable the proprietary amd driver gill6150 ?
[00:38] <polyphagia> fglrx
[00:38] <polyphagia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[00:38] <gill6150> polyphagia:  I have no idea what any of that meant, sadly.
[00:38] <polyphagia> gill6150: there are two drivers available for AMD cards on linux
[00:38] <polyphagia> the one ubuntu ships with is the open source (free software) driver
[00:38] <xid> trying to configure that driver without any success still gives me nightmares
[00:39] <polyphagia> but AMD has their own closed source driver
[00:39] <gill6150> polyphagia:  So tje fglrx one or the fglrx-updates one?
[00:39] <xid> doesn't steam work on the xorg driver?
[00:39] <gill6150> the*
[00:39] <polyphagia> the open source one is ideal, but it's not nearly as efficient and usually doesn't support opengl at reasonable speeds
[00:39] <polyphagia> for newer cards anyway
[00:39] <polyphagia> gill6150: yeah
[00:39] <polyphagia> -updates
[00:40] <gill6150> polyphagia: I guess we will see if it helps.
[00:40] <polyphagia> gill6150: ubuntu should have a GUI for this
[00:40] <polyphagia> called jockey
[00:40] <polyphagia> jockey gtk or something
[00:40] <gill6150> Still trying to learn linux at the moment.
[00:40] <wafflejock> gill6150, polyphagia additional drivers in the dash
[00:40] <polyphagia> and it will tell you which proprietary drivers you can install
[00:40] <polyphagia> but we already know you need fglrx gill6150
[00:40] <wafflejock> Umeaboy, are you shopping for a computer or asking for an existing MBP?
[00:41] <gill6150> polyphagia:  Alright.
[00:41] <wafflejock> gill6150, the dash is just the search thing when you hit windows key
[00:41] <gill6150> wafflejock:  I was wondering what the windows key would do on linux, Was scared to push it honestly.
[00:41] <gill6150> wafflejock:  Someone told me not too, as a joke obviously. but after that wasn't sure.
[00:42] <wafflejock> gill6150, heh yeah don't worry too much you can't break things badly (usually) unless you're using sudo or something asks for your admin password
[00:42] <polyphagia> only be cautious when somebody tells you to use the magic sysrq key :P
[00:42] <gill6150> polyphagia:  So, Whats this magic sysrq key? :p
[00:42] <polyphagia> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[00:43] <polyphagia> you can use it combined with some other keys to do quite a bit
[00:43] <gill6150> wow, you were quick
[00:43] <gill6150> So, What's the Ctrl+Alt+Delete of linux?
[00:43] <polyphagia> you can use ctrl + alt + f1-f7
[00:43] <polyphagia> to switch TTYs
[00:43] <gill6150> (Sorry i have had linux for a total of one day)
[00:44] <gill6150> What's TTYs?
[00:44] <polyphagia> f7 is the one you're on now
[00:44] <polyphagia> http://askubuntu.com/questions/481906/what-does-tty-stand-for
[00:44] <wafflejock> gill6150, no problem as long as they're ubuntu support questions it's okay here
[00:45] <polyphagia> anyway gill6150 through a tty you can login to your account and kill/start processes
[00:45] <gill6150> wafflejock:  Thanks.
[00:45] <polyphagia> you can use a program called htop for a command line tool like system monitor
[00:45] <gill6150> I did it, and i was lost on what to do.
[00:46] <gill6150> This driver change is taking forever.
[00:46] <polyphagia> yeah it's pretty big
[00:46] <wafflejock> gill6150, yeah learning the terminal takes some time but with a few commands you can pick up the rest pretty easily... and yeah the driver change can take a while
[00:46] <polyphagia> gill6150: your graphics should be much faster once it's installed
[00:46] <wafflejock> gill6150, the man command will bring up the manual for another command so, man man, will show the manual on the manual, use arrow keys to scroll and q to quit
[00:47] <xid> I got hopeful when you mentioned Jockey, but I didn't realize that was replaced by the Software Center program. Yeah, fglrx failed horribly for me when I installed it that way.
[00:47] <wafflejock> gill6150, major commands are, ls to list files/directories, cd to change into a folder, . is the current folder .. is the parent folder, pwd (print working directory) shows the current directory
[00:47] <polyphagia> xid: yeah jockey is rip :P
[00:47] <Umeaboy> wafflejock: The latter.
[00:47] <xid> steam works pretty well though
[00:47] <xid> with xorg driver
[00:48] <polyphagia> it depends on which card you have
[00:48] <wafflejock> !mac | Umeaboy
[00:48] <gill6150> xid:  not for me
[00:48] <polyphagia> for some cards the free drivers work great, even with 3d
[00:48] <wafflejock> Umeaboy, not sure off hand but that has some info on installing on various mac hardware
[00:48] <polyphagia> and the free drivers are almost always way more stable
[00:48] <polyphagia> i had a 7950 though and i had no 3d acceleration with radeon
[00:48] <wafflejock> Umeaboy, I would guess if you use RefIt or some boot loader that will work there shouldn't be an issue wiping out the other partition with OS X but never tried
[00:49] <gill6150> wafflejock: So, this isn't really a support question but when i was asking whether to download ubuntu or not, i asked for pros and cons. I never got any. What cons are there?
[00:49] <polyphagia> pretty much just software compatability and familiarity i'd say
[00:49] <wafflejock> gill6150, mostly lack of proprietary software support like Adobe creative suite, games but Steam on Linux has started to quickly solve that
[00:49] <polyphagia> also sometimes the proprietary drivers can be slower than on windows
[00:50] <xid> polyphagia: same, although another chipset, but in my case Xorg wasn't autodetecting, resulting in using the software graphics driver, so i had to manually configure my xorg.cnf
[00:50] <gill6150> polyphagia:  wafflejock  Those were things i already knew, so not too worried about thath. :p
[00:50] <polyphagia> well that's pretty much it gill6150
[00:50] <wafflejock> gill6150, support can sometimes be hard to come by but people in here can be helpful and you have to pay hand over fist for help on proprietary systems anyhow
[00:50] <polyphagia> honestly wafflejock yeah i agree
[00:50] <polyphagia> support is not something i'd say as a con
[00:50] <polyphagia> especially compared to os x / windows
[00:50] <polyphagia> people act like because windows costs money that you automatically get microsoft support
[00:50] <gill6150> wafflejock:  Driver finished, do i need to do anything else?
[00:51] <polyphagia> when in reality microsoft's support is only there for enterprise :P
[00:51] <polyphagia> gill6150: restart
[00:51] <wafflejock> gill6150, nope but I believe a reboot is good to make sure everything is sticking and running
[00:51] <gill6150> Be right back, then
[00:52] <Umeaboy> wafflejock: That page isn't updated when it comes to the iMac. ;(
[00:52] <polyphagia> not to mention wafflejock with gnu/linux you can talk to people who have actually screwed around in the source
[00:52] <polyphagia> so they might have a better idea on how things work
[00:52] <wafflejock> Umeaboy, yeah I know it tends to slack behind part of why I asked about if you already had hardware cause can get systems made for Ubuntu from a few places depending on wher eyou live
[00:52] <wafflejock> polyphagia, yeah that helps when you can get a hold of those experts
[00:52] <wafflejock> polyphagia, also if you can code can dig in yourself sometimes
[00:53] <polyphagia> yup i've contributed a bit
[00:53] <polyphagia> it's a great way to learn too
[00:53] <polyphagia> having these completed projects available to learn from
[00:53] <polyphagia> instead of always starting from scratch
[00:53] <wafflejock> polyphagia, awesome, yeah haven't actually contributed anything back code wise yet but I started building some web interface bits that tie in with GNUCash might open source some of that stuff
[00:53] <polyphagia> sweet :D
[00:53] <polyphagia> do it
[00:54] <polyphagia> and contributing is way easier than i thought too
[00:55] <wafflejock> polyphagia, yeah still need to flesh it out some, right now does CSV import of JPMorgan Chase transactions and selects categories, but depends on using the MySQL datastore option in GNUCash, it seems like the team there is thinking about rebuilding that architecture sometime soon (had a lot of key/value pair stuff saved in the DB for various features)
[00:55] <wafflejock> anyhow don't want to stay OT too long in here but yeah it's fun
[00:55] <polyphagia> ah yeah i see
[00:55] <gill6150_> wafflej0ck: polyphagia  About to load steam up now, hope this works
[00:55] <polyphagia> i've never used gnucash but i'm pretty familiar with web stuff and sql
[00:56] <polyphagia> kk gill6150_ well the driver is likely already working
[00:56] <Umeaboy> wafflejock: So, Apple hasn't blocked booting from an alternate media as of the new iMac's?
[00:56] <polyphagia> since you didn't get greeted by an xorg error
[00:56] <Umeaboy> They DON'T want us to use any other OS'es in their hardware nowadays I guess.
[00:56] <wafflejock> Umeaboy, sorry just don't know a clear answer on that, but not that I heard
[00:56] <polyphagia> lol macs have an OS whitelist
[00:57] <wafflejock> Umeaboy, yeah before just couldn't use their software on other hardware
[00:57] <gill6150_> polyphagia: Still not loading steam game.
[00:57] <gill6150_> Guess ill try to delete and re download
[00:57] <wafflejock> gill6150_, which game in particular?
[00:57] <polyphagia> you're not even allowed to virtualize os x
[00:57] <wafflejock> gill6150_, that might be worth a shot
[00:57] <gill6150_> wafflejock:  I have tried two games, Dwarfs F2P & Mount & Blade: Warband
[00:57] <wafflejock> gill6150_, some games like Bioshock Infinite they released some files without the executable at first and later released the actual program file
[00:57] <polyphagia> hmm gill6150_
[00:57] <polyphagia> does fglrxinfo in the terminal work?
[00:58] <gill6150_> polyphagia:  no idea what you mean soo.
[00:58] <polyphagia> search the dash for 'terminal'
[00:58] <polyphagia> open the prog and type
[00:58] <polyphagia> fglrxinfo
[00:58] <gill6150_> polyphagia:  doesn't ctrl+alt+t work?
[00:59] <wafflejock> yup that should do it too
[00:59] <polyphagia> i don't remember but it didn't last time i used gnome shell :P
[00:59] <polyphagia> but good thing unity kept it i guess
[00:59] <gill6150_> polyphagia: wafflejock display: :0  screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 7340 Graphics OpenGL version string: 4.4.13374 Compatibility Profile Context 15.20.1013
[01:00] <polyphagia> ok so the driver installed properly
[01:00] <gill6150_> Also, It appears Ctrl+C for copy and Ctrl+V for paste do not work, whats the command in Ubuntu? :p
[01:00] <polyphagia> they do
[01:00] <polyphagia> just not in the terminal
[01:00] <polyphagia> because ctrl + c and ctrl + v mean something else
[01:00] <polyphagia> you can highlight and middle click
[01:00] <wafflejock> ctrl+shift+c I think works too
[01:00] <polyphagia> yeah
[01:01] <wafflejock> and shift insert for paste or ctrl+shift+v
[01:01] <wafflejock> or select and middle click
[01:01] <gill6150_> wow.
[01:01] <gill6150_> I used to get like KB/s when downloading on steam, now im getting 10 MB/s
[01:01] <Umeaboy> gill6150_: You can choose your own settings for the keyboard shortcuts and button combos.
[01:01] <gill6150_> Umeaboy:  Where at??
[01:02] <polyphagia> gill6150_: does glxgears work
[01:02] <polyphagia> in the terminal?
[01:02] <gill6150_> Not installed, install it?
[01:02] <polyphagia> gill6150_: if so, what about fgl_glxgears?
[01:02] <polyphagia> try that one first
[01:02] <Umeaboy> Settings -> Keyboard
[01:02] <gill6150_> uhhh.
[01:03] <gill6150_> Some spinning cube popped up?
[01:03] <polyphagia> kk great
[01:03] <polyphagia> then steam is the problem, your drivers are fine now
[01:03] <gill6150_> Okay, That's good.
[01:03] <gill6150_> What do i do about steam?
[01:03] <gill6150_> & Can i get out of the spinning cube?
[01:03] <Umeaboy> gill6150_: Ask in #steamlug
[01:03] <Umeaboy> ;)
[01:03] <polyphagia> gill6150_: use ctrl + c in the terminal
[01:03] <gill6150_> Umeaboy: might have too. :p
[01:03] <polyphagia> that it's running in
[01:04] <gill6150_> Okay, thanks.
[01:06] <gill6150_> polyphagia: wafflejock thanks for the help, im asking over in steam
[01:06] <polyphagia> kk gl
[01:06] <wafflejock> gill6150_, yup good luck
[01:07] <gill6150_> Also, What's a good music radio on here?
[01:08] <wafflejock> gill6150_, rhythmbox is the default music player, pithos is a nice option for getting pandora streams
[01:08] <gill6150_> wafflejock: I could never get rhythmbox is work, not sure why.
[01:08] <wafflejock> gill6150_, check the ubuntu software center or in a terminal "sudo apt-get install pithos" check it out if you need to remove "sudo apt-get remove pithos"
[01:09] <wafflejock> gill6150_, yeah I'm not a huge rhthmbox fan either, it's okay though
[01:09] <wafflejock> gill6150_, Amarok was always kinda cool but also not super impressive and feels kinda heavy weight for what it is
[01:09] <gill6150_> Getting pithos, ill try it for now
[01:10] <Osmodivs> Hi. I am in Ubuntu 12.04.5 32bits  I upgraded via Software Updater and I think it got stuck, its been like this for hours. It stuck in this part:   run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-85-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-85-generic
[01:10] <wafflejock> gill6150_, guess kodi/xbmc are cool too if you have a media collection though and for other media streaming
[01:11] <wafflejock> gill6150_, xbmc (renamed kodi recently) is more of a windows media center kind of thing though, typically used for on a TV or the like so it takes over by default
[01:11] <gill6150_> wafflejock: That might be useful, but does pandora.com not work on steam?
[01:11] <gill6150_> Ubuntu*
[01:11] <gill6150_> Not sure why i said steam. :p
[01:11] <wafflejock> gill6150_, you can just use the site I just like having a separate client for controlling it so I can close out the browser if I need to
[01:12] <wafflejock> gill6150_, I do web dev stuff so I sometimes break my browser :)
[01:12] <gill6150_> The site keeps saying there a problem.
[01:12] <gill6150_> wafflejock: I'm just a basic user.
[01:12] <gill6150_> Wish I knew how to do web dev, programming, etc. lol
[01:12] <wafflejock> gill6150_, oh you may need Chrome to have flash
[01:12] <wafflejock> gill6150_, I just pulled it up here in Chrome
[01:13] <gill6150_> wafflejock: I downloaded flash for firefox.
[01:13] <gill6150_> wafflejock:  which btw took me about an hour.
[01:13] <wafflejock> gill6150_, yeah the Flash you can get for Linux is pretty out dated though, the one in Chrome (even on linux) is maintained by chrome itself and you get a newer version
[01:13] <Ben64> thats not how to get flash
[01:14] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[01:14] <wafflejock> Ben64, right but that installs what 11 and in Chrome I have Flash 17
[01:15] <gill6150_> Ben64: It's already the newest version
[01:15] <wafflejock> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[01:15] <izinucs> how do I get irssi to ignore joins parts quits while in the channel?
[01:15] <gill6150_> wafflejock: So, How do i install chgrome?
[01:15] <gill6150_> chrome*
[01:15] <gill6150_> sudo apt-get install chrome?
[01:15] <Ben64> wafflejock: i didn't say it was newer than chrome
[01:16] <wafflejock> gill6150_, eh I'm gonna eat my words here just tried in FF with Flash 11 and that's working fine on pandora.com for me as well
[01:17] <gill6150_> haha, Alright. So maybe My computer is just shit & nothing will work. :p
[01:17] <wafflejock> gill6150_, you can install chromium using apt-get or the "software center" in the dash, you can get a .deb file for regular chrome from google but then don't get updates automatically
[01:17] <Ben64> actually, i think the deb installs the google ppa
[01:17] <wafflejock> gill6150_, if you went with chromium here's some quick instructions on adding Flash https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[01:17] <wafflejock> Ben42, ah yeah I think you're right
[01:18] <wafflejock> Ben64, even
[01:18] <Ben64> same guy
[01:18] <wafflejock> ah k
[01:18] <gill6150_> What's chormium?
[01:18] <wafflejock> gill6150_, just open source chrome typically slightly newer revision I don't think it departs too much though (from a user perspective feels mostly the same)
[01:19] <Razzdoll> SI know this isnt #cairo-dock, but does anyone have experience with it? I cannot edit it and customize it with certain program icons, etc.
[01:19] <Razzdoll> I*
[01:20] <gill6150_> wafflejock: Wow, Ubuntu is confusing. I swear i've learned more in the past two days then i have my whole life using windows.
[01:20] <wafflejock> gill6150_, eh there is a learning curve to both it's just a lot of new stuff I'm sure and you're talking with relative geeks :)
[01:20] <Ben64> its not confusing, its just different. if you used linux your whole life windows would feel the same amount of confusing, or more
[01:20] <izinucs> gill6150_: and you won't ever stop learning .. it's an environment that foster exploration
[01:21] <wafflejock> gill6150_, I did Windows IT support so when you get in the depths of the registry and the various layers of application caches then linux is relatively simply organized
[01:21] <gill6150_> izinucs: I'm okay with always learning, i just want to know enough where i can download a simple program without asking 20 questions. :p
[01:21] <wafflejock> gill6150_, well apt-get is the main thing to learn here
[01:21] <Ben64> almost every program you'd need is in the software center
[01:21] <wafflejock> er software center to faces to the same thing
[01:21] <gill6150_> wafflejock: I've got that, i think
[01:21] <wafflejock> two*
[01:21] <Ben64> much easier than going through googling, finding a download link, making sure its not a virus, etc
[01:22] <izinucs> gill6150_: it gets easier.. for the most part the repositories have most everything you need.  There are exceptions like chrome.. although chromium is installed which is the full opensource version of chrome.. no propiatory bits
[01:22] <gill6150_> Ben64: For someone that has always done that, not really.
[01:22] <gill6150_> Ben64: Not trying to bash, just comparing to what i know.
[01:23] <jak2000> i want add a user as sudoer, but cant: sudo vi /etc/sudoers dit an sae but cant save the message always is:  "E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override)"  how to fix it?
[01:23] <gill6150_> izinucs: What does "no propiatory bits" mean?
[01:23] <Ben64> really? opening up the sofware center, typing in a program name and clicking install isn't easier than that?
[01:23] <gill6150_> Ben64: Talking more the "sudo apt-get" thing.
[01:23] <Ben64> has the same effect
[01:23] <izinucs> gill6150_: there is a mental shift.. it's aquard getting out of the "windows" mentality.. propiatory bits code that isn't opensource
[01:24] <wafflejock> gill6150_, yeah that's just something us who use the systems a lot use cause it's faster when you know the names of what you're looking for and you want to install a few things at once
[01:24] <gill6150_> izinucs: I figured i'd get on a few peoples nerves, but It'll take some time to adjust.
[01:24] <polyphagia> jak2000: use $ sudo adduser username sudo
[01:24] <polyphagia> then relogin
[01:25] <polyphagia> yeah gill6150_ you'll find the programs that are annoying to install or don't work quite right are usually proprietary
[01:25] <polyphagia> closed source
[01:25] <wafflejock> gill6150_, also if you are remotely administering machines (which a good amount of us do) then you need to do it in the command line, also it's not different regardless of which graphical interface you're using (there are lots of graphical shells for linux)
[01:25] <izinucs> gill6150_: no worries.. everyone starts someplace.. I dropped my win machine for linux with one of the original ubuntu releases.. still feel like a novice
[01:25] <gill6150_> polyphagia:  makes sense, As linux is an open source
[01:25] <gill6150_> izinucs: Still got windows, Don't have the guts to drop it yet..
[01:26] <wafflejock> gill6150_, I held on for like 6 months before switching to just using windows in a virtual box when I need it
[01:26] <psusi> jak2000, check dmesg for any disk errors that resulted in your filesystem being remounted read-only
[01:26] <izinucs> gill6150_: there's a tool for everything.. sometimes that tool is only available on windows (ie usually business apps).. but with my business I've found it easier on linux.. kde is my desktop of choice.
[01:26] <polyphagia> psusi: i'm pretty sure it's just because he didn't use root to edit the file
[01:27] <polyphagia> but using adduser is a much cleaner method then using visudo or something
[01:27] <gill6150_> wafflejock: I just have a dualboot. Debating on when I build my computer if im gonan do the dualboot or just windows or just linux.
[01:27] <polyphagia> than*
[01:27] <psusi> polyphagia, he said he used sudo
[01:27] <gill6150_> izinucs:  What's kde?
[01:27] <polyphagia> i think that file may be special though psusi
[01:27] <polyphagia> needs to be edited using visudo
[01:27] <polyphagia> but adduser is simpler
[01:27] <wafflejock> gill6150_, yeah I like the Linux with windows in virtual box cause Linux boots fast and does 99% of what I need then if I need to test in IE or open a PSD or something I just start up the Windows vbox instance
[01:28] <polyphagia> if cs2 is all you need, it works in wine
[01:28] <izinucs> gill6150_: what you look at for a gui is called the desktop.. there are many different ones to choose from.  kde is probably the easiest to use coming from windows.
[01:28] <psusi> doesn't have to be... yes, adding the user to the group is simpler, but the fact that he got a read only error editing a file as root points to the whole fs being read only
[01:28] <gill6150_> How would a windows in virtual box work?
[01:28] <IRC84181> kde is desktop environment
[01:28] <IRC84181> stands for k desktop environment
[01:28] <psusi> which means something bad happened
[01:28] <IRC84181> used to stand for kool desktop environment
[01:28] <gill6150_> izinucs:  & How do you change?
[01:28] <polyphagia> psusi: i just don't think it's likely
[01:28] <IRC84181> gill6150 ^^ read
[01:29] <IRC84181> use apt-get install <desktop environment>
[01:29] <IRC84181> depends on environment though
[01:29] <polyphagia> that file needs to be changed using visudo
[01:29] <wafflejock> gill6150_, it works well actually even with a intel laptop GPU I can run photoshop without a terrible amount of lag
[01:29] <izinucs> gill6150_: google kubuntu and you'll get some screen shots.. you can have 2 desktops installed at the same time if you want.. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.. then log out and there will be an option to switch to kde on the login screen
[01:29] <gill6150_> wafflejock: How would I go about that?
[01:29] <gill6150_> izinucs:  I really like that idea.
[01:29] <polyphagia> KDE5 looks really great
[01:30] <wafflejock> gill6150_, just download VirtualBox from the software center, then you start up VirtualBox's management interface and hit new and creates a "virtual disk image" you can just follow the defaults basically for all of that
[01:30] <gill6150_> wafflejock: Thanks, & Downloading that desktop right now
[01:30] <wafflejock> gill6150_, I did a video here with virtual box at the beginning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA but I'm installing linux in a vbox in linux just to show people how to use vbox on whatever
[01:30] <psusi> root can edit any file he wants... how do you think visodo manages to do it?  it just sudos to root and touches a lock file to prevent multiple people from doing it at the same time
[01:30] <izinucs> gill6150_: virtualbox is a whole nother adventure.. but works great
[01:31] <gill6150_> izinucs: I think i might be biting off more then i can chew.
[01:31] <wafflejock> gill6150_, wouldn't dive into everything at once take it slow but it's good to ask the questions when you're trying to figure out what to run
[01:31] <gill6150_> izinucs: wafflejock I've learned when i browse the web I use Ubuntu. It's WAY faster on my computer
[01:32] <izinucs> gill6150_: easier to just install kubutu-desktop. they (ubuntu and kubuntu) live easily together.. on boot you get to choose which one you want to use at that time.. switch back anytime
[01:32] <wafflejock> gill6150_, yeah it tends to use a lot less CPU doing background tasks, modern windows is constantly indexing things for search and just doing endless tasks
[01:33] <gill6150_> wafflejock: My computer has got so slow, I barley wanna play it anymore. I used to not lag when playing games, but now i do on the same games.
[01:34] <jeeves_moss> I'm following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136, and I can't seem to join my wireless network.  is there a way to make the card connect with the ifconfig?
[01:34] <wafflejock> gill6150_, yeah somehow it seems every version of windows still suffers from bloat over time and slows down, maybe they'll change with Win10 but can discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want since it's not support and the ops here like to keep this room open for questions
[01:35] <gill6150_> wafflejock: My bad, i'll head over there
[01:39] <IRC84181> when you mount a partition eg /dev/sda1 with the /mnt part, the /mnt part is used as a reference point right?
[01:39] <psusi> IRC84181, define "reference point"
[01:40] <IRC84181> liek a shortcut that you can use for changing directory into via terminal, eg cd /mnt or chroot /mnt
[01:43] <psusi> IRC84181, not really.. that simply is the location where that filesystem *is*
[01:43] <IRC84181> ok thanks
[01:44] <psusi> shortcut implies it actually is somewhere else
[01:44] <histo> irc8418 cd to the mount point is not chrooting there
[01:47] <izinucs> IRC84181: are you referring to .. say .. a usb sitck?  cd /media/<username> then ls to view what's there.. then cd <name-of-folder>
[01:48] <IRC84181> i know but i meant is it used as a reference point, like can you just use /mnt instead of /dev/sd[Xyz](eg dev/sda1)
[01:48] <reisio> /mnt would describe a path you'd mount a /dev/(ice) _to_
[01:48] <reisio> the /mnt can be most anyplace
[01:49] <reisio> /dev/foo is how the system sees the device, and will change less frequently
[01:57] <luis13> hola
[02:01] <cos_> hello
[02:01] <cos_> good morning
[02:01] <kittyfirekitty> Still not having any luck getting my liveUSB to boot (also still downloading the x86 version of the install iso)
[02:03] <kittyfirekitty> anyone able to help me troubleshoot my steps for making a uefi live USB ?
[02:04] <psusi> IRC84181, /dev/sda1 is the partition on the drive, not the files in it.. to access the files in it, the filesystem has to be mounted in a directory somewhere
[02:05] <jeeves_moss> what is the lightest weight/smallest desktop I can install?
[02:05] <reisio> jeeves_moss: why do you ask
[02:05] <IRC84181> there are some that are like 40mb
[02:05] <IRC84181> try --> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[02:06] <jeeves_moss> reisio, I'm installing it on a BeagleBone Black.  storage is a concern.  I just need it to run a web interface, an on-screen keyboard, and use the resistive touch screen
[02:06] <IRC84181> its 50MB so can be installed almost anywhere
[02:06] <reisio> IRC84181: that's a distro, not a desktop environment
[02:06] <IRC84181> oh
[02:06] <reisio> jeeves_moss: storage is not a concern
[02:06] <reisio> you can get a disk the size of a fingernail that holds more than any OS will require
[02:06] <IRC84181> read question wrong
[02:06] <reisio> embedded is utterly dead, as a capacity issue
[02:06] <IRC84181> lxde is not bad
[02:06] <jeeves_moss> reisio, I meant that I have ~900Mb to work with
[02:07] <reisio> jeeves_moss: just get more
[02:07] <jeeves_moss> reisio, I'd love to, but it's a soldered on eMMC
[02:07] <reisio> jeeves_moss: so don't use it, use some other medium
[02:07] <jeeves_moss> IRC84181, do you have a link for a base install with nothing more than FF?
[02:07] <wafflejock> jeeves_moss, you can install on a microsd
[02:08] <reisio> you can install on anything that holds data
[02:08] <IRC84181> what is ff?
[02:08] <wafflejock> firefox
[02:08] <jeeves_moss> reisio, this is the platform I'm going to use.  upgrading the storage or changing the platform is not an option
[02:08] <jeeves_moss> IRC84181, yes.
[02:08] <IRC84181> oh
[02:08] <reisio> sounds like a silly corner you've backed yourself into
[02:08] <jeeves_moss> IRC84181, yea.  programers with thier heads in the clouds.
[02:08] <reisio> if you install a base system, and X, and Firefox, you can get a kiosk going easily
[02:09] <jeeves_moss> reisio, that's basically what I'm trying to get acomplished.
[02:09] <reisio> mmhmmm
[02:09] <jeeves_moss> is gnome been gutted yet?
[02:09] <reisio> gutted?
[02:10] <jeeves_moss> yea, a lightweight base install that's small so I can start adding what I need.  if I run "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", there's a few gigs of crap that get installed (office, etc)
[02:10] <reisio> if you want a kiosk, all you need is the X.org server and a browser
[02:10] <IRC84181> i know damsmalllinux is like 50MB , whole OS
[02:10] <reisio> preferably one not tied to a desktop, like firefox or something smaller yet
[02:10] <kittyfirekitty> anyone able to see this, this is a new irc client and i have no clue if i'm even using this correctly
[02:10] <reisio> IRC84181: whole pointless OS
[02:10] <jeeves_moss> IRC84181, I need it to be debian.
[02:10] <reisio> kittyfirekitty: define correctly
[02:11] <IRC84181> oh
[02:11] <reisio> jeeves_moss: so install Debian
[02:11] <kittyfirekitty> conveying the text i type across the .... oh looks like its working then
[02:12] <kittyfirekitty> i'm looking for help getting my computer to boot a liveUSB (i've tried two different windows utilities to create it, to no avail)
[02:12] <reisio> kittyfirekitty: which liveusb?
[02:13] <kittyfirekitty> i used LinuxLive USB Creator 2.9.3 on the ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:13] <reisio> kittyfirekitty: unetbootin works decently IME
[02:13] <jeeves_moss> ok, lets see if this installs, and if we break out 2A power budget
[02:14] <kittyfirekitty> i've also tried unetbootin-windows-608 and Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.6.0 and Win32DiskImager-0.9.5-install
[02:14] <kittyfirekitty> none worked for me
[02:14] <reisio> kittyfirekitty: what happened?
[02:14] <kittyfirekitty> while in the bios boot menu, i select the usb drive, the screen flickers and just returns to the bios boot menu
[02:15] <reisio> you try another usb port/drive?
[02:15] <kittyfirekitty> there is only one port on this computer, i've tried 3 different thumb/external hd/sdcard readers
[02:15] <cos_> yin
[02:15] <cortexman> how do I read the most recent e-mail with `mail' ? i can't fathom why it shows me oldest first by default
[02:16] <reisio> kittyfirekitty: what color is the bit inside?
[02:16] <kittyfirekitty> color is the bit inside? inside what?
[02:16] <reisio> cortexman: | tac ?
[02:16] <cortexman> mail doesn't pipe to stdout...
[02:16] <cortexman> it's an interface
[02:18] <kittyfirekitty> its a usb 3.0 port if that is what you are asking, and yes i've checked these drives to see if the files are being wrote correctly, and they appear to be, the disc management plugin in windows shows that the partition is fat32, is active, explorere shows me /EFI/BOOT
[02:18] <reisio> probably your hardware/firmware doesn't like booting from 3
[02:19] <reisio> no OS on it already?
[02:19] <kittyfirekitty> win8.1, uefi
[02:20] <reisio> mmm
[02:20] <reisio> efi might have special steps
[02:20] <reisio> or it might just not be at all designed to boot from usb
[02:20] <reisio> (the hardware/firmware)
[02:20] <kittyfirekitty> i've been working from the walkthrough from ubuntu pages
[02:21] <krabador> how can i run a full game app like a game, only directly on second screen?
[02:21] <krabador> *full screen
[02:21] <kittyfirekitty> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:23] <reisio> krabador: as opposed to?
[02:24] <patrick__> hello
[02:25] <krabador> reisio, simply in a dual head system, i would run full screen apps, like games, only on a particular display
[02:25] <reisio> kittyfirekitty: if you want to see if it's just an issue with your image/r/s, you could try seeing if http://is.gd/acitex boots
[02:25] <reisio> krabador: right, as opposed to what?
[02:25] <gill6150> wafflej0ck:
[02:25] <gill6150> izinucs:
[02:25] <EDSF> :)
[02:26] <gill6150> I tried to download kubuntu, but when i reboot the front screen says kubuntu but when it loads its still ubuntu
[02:26] <kittyfirekitty> 438Mb will take about... 2hours to finish downloading
[02:26] <cfhowlett> gill6150, "tried ..."
[02:26] <krabador> reisio, what's the meaning of opposed
[02:27] <reisio> krabador: what's is it that _is_ happening _instead_?
[02:27] <gill6150> cfhowlett: I don't get your point?
[02:27] <cfhowlett> gill6150, DID you or did you NOT download kubuntu?
[02:27] <krabador> reisio, for example, urban terror, runs on both
[02:28] <gill6150> cfhowlett:  If the Loading screen says Kubuntu. that'd show its downloaded.
[02:28] <gill6150> I'd think anyways.
[02:28] <reisio> krabador: the particular configuration for that will probably vary based on your graphics driver and window manager
[02:29] <krabador> radeon driver and gnome
[02:30] <kittyfirekitty> reisio: the image is fine, sysresccd also refers to the same utilities i've already tried for making their livesticks
[02:30] <jeeves_moss> gooooooooooooo power budgets!!!  I love a challange.  storage, ram, power, screen size, etc
[02:30] <reisio> krabador: what version of gnome?
[02:30] <krabador> 3.14
[02:30]  * reisio prefers non-contrived challenges
[02:31] <reisio> kittyfirekitty: no it doesn't, did you even go to the link I provided? :p
[02:31] <reisio> krabador: just '3.14'?
[02:31] <kittyfirekitty> reisio yes, and i just said it'll take about 3 hours to download 438Mb, it says that if the utility they offer dosn't work, then to use the linuxliveusbcreator
[02:32] <reisio> krabador: there should probably be a third version number
[02:32] <reisio> kittyfirekitty: I find it unlikely you used sysresccd's own custom imaging utility for sysresccd alone... for an ubuntu image already
[02:32] <reisio> but whatever
[02:32] <reisio> kittyfirekitty: what make/model is this device?
[02:32] <amorbix> test
[02:33] <kittyfirekitty> so you want me to download their install utility, and use it on the image from the iso for the ubuntu installer?
[02:33] <wafflejock> gill6150, if you logout at the login screen you'll have a dropdown where you can select the desktop environment
[02:33] <gill6150> wafflejock: I wasn't logging out, just restarting..
[02:33] <krabador> reisio, 3.14.2
[02:34] <Osmodivs> Hi. I am in Ubuntu 12.04.5 32bits  I upgraded via Software Updater and I think it got stuck, its been like this for hours. It stuck in this part:   run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-85-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-85-generic
[02:34] <wafflejock> gill6150, yeah at the initial login screen you should see a drop down with Unity and KDE in it now if you installed kubuntu desktop alongside the default Unity desktop
[02:34] <krabador> reisio, major settings don't change between .1 and .2
[02:35] <reisio> krabador: sure they don't
[02:36] <gill6150_> wafflej0ck: Got it working, but it says it won't save anything. Whys that?
[02:37] <wafflejock> gill6150, not sure what you're seeing there? still got it on screen?
[02:37] <wafflejock> gill6150, install "shutter" it's a nice program for capturing screenshots and can export to imgur quick and easy
[02:38] <cfhowlett> gill6150_, booting from USB = temporary = no storage
[02:39] <wafflejock> gill6150_, ah live USB? thought you installed kubuntu-desktop didn't realize you downloaded the kubuntu ISO
[02:49] <neotown> hello
[02:49] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> goodbye
[02:49] <EriC^^> - the beatles
[02:50] <neotown> so this channel is for technology?
[02:50] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> its for fun
[02:50] <cfhowlett> !topic | neotown
[02:50] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> so yeah, tons of fun  ^^
[02:51] <neotown> ok,my first time~
[02:51] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> some clients you need to type /topic #ubuntu
[02:54] <isaiah22> whats going on guys
[02:55] <zacharypch> hi, i installed ubuntu 15.04 alongside windows 8 on a new laptop.  when I boot windows, windows takes over the bootloader and renders ubuntu not bootable.  I do unfortunately need both to work.  here is the paste from boot-repair:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11486870/
[02:55] <zacharypch> i'd really appreciate any suggestions
[03:00] <APerson_> zacharypch: there's definitely an ask ubuntu question that provides an amazing level of troubleshooting detail
[03:00] <APerson_> it's about dual-booting windows 8.1 and ubuntu
[03:02] <cmsea> sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable works best for me
you mean win8 is bootable but ubuntu is not?
[03:04] <zacharypch> neotown, yeah grub loaded until i selected the windows boot manager, then windows took over the boot and now auto boots to windows, and i cannot select the ubuntu partition in bios anymore
[03:08] <zacharypch> ok, i think i found the askubuntu thread, i'll brb.
[03:16] <neotown> you use HDD or SSD?
[03:17] <andrew_> Hello this is my first time using IRC.  I'm hoping people can see this message
[03:17] <cfhowlett> !test | andrejpan
[03:18] <cfhowlett> andrews ask your ubuntu question.  andrejpan, please forgive.
[03:18] <andrew_> So, I am taking a Intro to Unix course at my University.  I just started this week.  I am wondering what sort of useful information there is on ubuntu.  I have signed up for askubuntu.com
[03:18] <andrew_> what other resources are there?
[03:19] <cfhowlett> !manual | andrew_
[03:19] <cfhowlett> andrew_, there is also the ubuntu wiki and www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[03:19] <andrew_> excellent thank you.  wiki.ubuntu.org didn't seem helpful.  You have to be part of the ubuntu team it looks like to use.  is this correct?
[03:20] <cfhowlett> andrew_, false.  anyone can read it.
[03:20] <histo> !manual | andrew_
[03:21] <andrew_> Well thank you guys I appreciate your help!
[03:21] <andrew_> Have an excellent day!
[03:22] <histo> lol sorry didn't see you pasted it cfhow. I'm on a really client
[03:23] <cfhowlett> histo, sad day indeed when my China ISP outperforms your ISP
[03:27] <kittyfirekitty> well i'm finally down to just 20 min remaining on getting the 32 bit iso... so i can try to virtualize and use linux to fix it...
[03:28] <Hilikus> how can i use gedit to encrypt/decrypt using gpg??
[03:28] <histo> kitty fix what?
[03:29] <kittyfirekitty> boot isues with this liveUSB
[03:29] <kittyfirekitty> seems i can't get a windows util to actually make a bootable usb device
[03:31] <kittyfirekitty> ] 842.73M  87.3KB/s   eta 24m 22s
[03:31] <histo> kitty what are you trying to boot off usb?
[03:32] <kittyfirekitty> ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64
[03:34] <histo> just use dd or win32 disk image to write the iso  to the drive
[03:34] <kittyfirekitty> i tried that, doesn't boot,when i select it in the bio boot menu, it just flickers the screen and bounces back to the bios boot menu
[03:35] <kittyfirekitty> the windows utility stuff anyways, thats why i'm downloading the 32 bit iso, so i can virtualize that and use linux utils
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:09] <karmeeko> I just upgraded to 15.04 and now in my syslog i get multiple 'Starting session c### for user myusername' why does this happen and how can i stop the noise? It happens every second
[04:09] <neotown> it's noon now
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: maybe a clean install can fix this, did you try creating another user?
[04:10] <haskell__> Is it a good idea to install ubuntu on a chromebook?
[04:11] <haskell__> Are there any performance hits or issues associated with doing this?
[04:11] <karmeeko> This is a home server so i was trying to avoid reinstalling
[04:11] <karmeeko> I have other users, if i create another user you think the message will go away?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> haskell__: there are tricks with crouton to install ubuntu on it
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: can you login to another user to see if syslog has msges like that too?
[04:12] <karmeeko> Ya lemme try
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: wich ubuntu version did you came from?
[04:13] <haskell__> lotuspsychje, yer it's definitely possible, but is it a good idea? Would there be performance hits, driver issues, incompatibilities, etc?
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> haskell__: we had users saying that they run ubuntu smooth on chromebook
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> haskell__: in my opinion, ubuntu is always a good idea on hardware
[04:14] <haskell__> lotuspsychje, awesome! then I'm guessing if the specs of the chromebook is good enough, I should have no problem with running ubuntu on it, god I love ubuntu
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> haskell__: you can always try xubuntu/lubuntu on it too
[04:15] <karmeeko> lotuspsychje i came from 14.04
[04:16] <haskell__> lotuspsychje, true, shopping around for chromebooks atm, feeling giddy that I can get pretty decent hardware for so cheap, and then strip out chromeos for ubuntu!
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: you realize you upgraded from LTS to a non-LTS right?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> haskell__: chrome0s for me is like a bad nightmare :p
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: 15.04 is supported only 9 months
[04:16] <karmeeko> Ya after the fact :-(
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: i would really reccomend you fresh install
[04:17] <karmeeko> I thought that would be lts
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: next LTS is 16.04
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: for server use best stay on lts
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> its more stable
[04:18] <karmeeko> I have 14.04 on a flash to fresh install ready if i couldnt get a fix
[04:18] <karmeeko> I know i know - i just got excited
[04:18] <knocktwice> karmeeko: sounds like systemd "fun"
[04:18] <karmeeko> Whats the diff between 14.04.2 and 14.04.5?
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: maybe a tail -f /var/log/syslog can help you show errors in realtime
[04:19] <yamoonsun> Why is it that after I logged into my account, my Camera turned on for nearly a minute, and shut off immediately after I used the 'top' cmd via terminal
[04:19] <knocktwice> NSA
[04:19]  * yamoonsun would not doubt it
[04:19] <karmeeko> Ya fun in da butt
[04:19] <knocktwice> hehe
[04:19] <karmeeko> :-)
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: you have skype or anything else installed?
[04:20] <bojan> Can anyone share the document on how linux works and how does the command executes in the backend??\
[04:20] <yamoonsun> I don't have skype, and even if I did it wouldn't be on my start-up
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !manual | bojan
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: ubuntu version?
[04:20] <yamoonsun> 14.04
[04:21] <knocktwice> bojan: huh? what are you trying to do?
[04:21] <karmeeko> My syslog keeps saying 'starting session c#(number keeps incrementing) for user 'myuser'' then the next line says 'started session c# for user 'myuser'
[04:21] <yamoonsun> There was a process called Whoopsie that disappeared moments after opening 'top'
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: tryed creating another user to see if webcam jumps on also?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: spam lines in syslog are never good right
[04:22] <yamoonsun> I have not, but this happened only today.
[04:22] <bojan> Knocktwice:I want to prepare a document for my junior.In that i want to clearly say him that how command works and from where it works and how it findshe exact location??
[04:22] <karmeeko> right on
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: maybe clean out the whole machine with bleachbit?
[04:22] <knocktwice> bojan: try 'man bash'
[04:23] <knocktwice> karmeeko: or some electromagnets
[04:23] <karmeeko> lol
[04:23] <yamoonsun> I /did/ install a package called cmatrix - Think that may could be the cause?
[04:23] <bojan> Knocktwice:The whole structure of how linux commands and how it worksn at backend??
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: from official repo?
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: if you doubt a rootkit, install clamav and rkhunter and scan whoel system
[04:24] <yamoonsun> lotuspychje: I do believe so
[04:24] <knocktwice> bojan the shell (often bash) is the intermediary between the person who types a command and the kernel that organizes what/when things get run
[04:24] <knocktwice> the shell is between the user and the kernel
[04:24] <karmeeko> Then every once in a while i do see 'dbus failed to start service'
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: syslog and dmesg show anything related webcam?
[04:25] <yamoonsun> Any reason clamav isn't in the software center?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | yamoonsun
[04:25]  * yamoonsun is actually a new user, how do I check that.
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: it is, sudo apt-get install clamav from terminal
[04:26] <karmeeko> Maybe it will be best to go back to 14.04
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: yes, i would advise that mate
[04:26] <knocktwice> bojan: you can learn a whole lot about how commands work by learning about bash
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: too many syslog errors is not a good sign
[04:26] <bojan_> Knocktwice:Any idea??
[04:27] <bojan_> Knocktwice:Or any document you are having??
[04:27] <karmeeko> lotuspsychje - thanks for the help & motovation :-)
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: no prob mate :p
[04:27] <karmeeko> +1 karma to you
[04:27] <knocktwice> bojan: google 'man bash'.  First hit.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: from LTS you can sleep on 2 ears for next 16.04 also
[04:28] <karmeeko> When is 16.04 expected?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> !release
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[04:28] <yamoonsun> Am so confused, going to see if there's a clamav tutorial
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: man clamav in terminal to see start command
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: dont think there's a codename yet
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: but ive read articles, that will be the best ubuntu ever
[04:30] <karmeeko> Heh prolly assume shortly before 14.04 lts expires
[04:30] <kalux> -
[04:30] <karmeeko> I hope their upgrade process works better than 15.04 did for me
[04:30] <yamoonsun> Does it automatically update?
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: you just installed, so should be up to date database
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> karmeeko: well lts to lts should work smooth
[04:32] <yamoonsun> If I run clamscan in the future, will it automatically update before scanning?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: http://askubuntu.com/questions/114000/how-to-update-clamav-definitions-database
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: freshclam command shows in man clamav?
[04:34] <yamoonsun> Appreciate it, dude.
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: np :p
[04:35] <knocktwice> bojan: http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[04:36] <yamoonsun> I should be able to just run 'clamscan /' as root right? That will scan the whole filesystem?
[04:36] <ucup> test
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> yamoonsun: use sudo, not root
[04:38] <yamoonsun> What's the difference? lol
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | yamoonsun
[04:39] <yamoonsun> I mean, sudo vs sudo -i *shrugs*
[04:39] <yamoonsun> Same thing, no? I just have to type sudo less times?
[04:40] <knocktwice> if you only use sudo (not sudo -i) you are less likely to shoot yourself in the foot
[04:41] <knocktwice> then again, in '96 I deleted my system with a poorly place rm -rf, and I've been careful ever since
[04:41] <knocktwice> so there's some good things that come from shooting yourself in the foot
[04:42] <yamoonsun> I love that command - Used to troll people in image boards with it.
[04:42] <knocktwice> my fingers get scared when I start typing it.
[04:43] <knocktwice> actually the biggest danger of running around as root is creating files with the wrong owner.
[04:45] <yamoonsun> What do you mean? Example?
[04:47] <knocktwice> If something doesn't need to be owned by root, it shouldn't be.  That can be a security hole.
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> knocktwice: +1
[04:47] <knocktwice> If a script is owned by root and executable, and someone gets access to it, instant root access.
[04:50] <yamoonsun> Fair enough =3
[05:00] <yamoonsun> How do you show a process in terminal after you've closed the terminal it was previous in?
[05:01] <knocktwice> Hm..  oridinarily if you ran a program from a terminal, then close the terminal, all the programs that came from that terminal are killed.
[05:02] <knocktwice> there are plenty of exceptions though.  'ps ax' and 'top' come to mind... but once a program is disassociated from the terminal I don't think there's a way to find its history.
[05:02] <yamoonsun> Clamscan appears to be running in the background, so I just did sudo kill clamscan
[05:02] <yamoonsun> Still seems to be running
[05:02] <knocktwice> kill needs a pid
[05:03] <knocktwice> killall?
[05:03] <yamoonsun> I won't recognize the 'command'? I'll try the pid
[05:04] <yamoonsun> That did it, but it's still odd that it didn't close by command
[05:04] <knocktwice> lately there's been a nasty bout of people writing programs that respawn when killed.  I think that's poor form.
[05:04] <knocktwice> kill -9 should mean 'die now'
[05:05] <robhol> "die and, this should really go without saying, freaking STAY dead"
[05:06] <knocktwice> nod
[05:07] <knocktwice> it's called SIGKILL for a reason, after all
[05:18] <snkcld> yes but to be killed does not mean to be reaped
[05:18] <snkcld> :P
[05:26] <orlando_> hello
[05:26] <orlando_> im trying to insall ruby 2.2 on ubuntumate
[05:27] <orlando_> using a raspberrypi 2
[05:30] <pitagora3> buongiorno
[05:44] <gill6150> wafflej0ck: I can't get my date & time to work rightt.
[05:58] <yamoonsun> gill6150: How do you mean?
[05:58] <yamoonsun> clear
[05:58] <yamoonsun> Anyone know why Ubuntu is telling me my file size is 20MB larger than it is? http://i.imgur.com/cP4qiWU.jpg
[06:02] <Seveas> yamoonsun: MiB (power of 2, 1MiB is 1024 KiB) versus MB (power of 10, 1 MB is 10KB)
[06:02] <tanatos> good night
[06:03] <tanatos> someone currently uses red hat jboss development studio?
[06:03] <Seveas> yamoonsun: a stupidity from the "but technically correct is the best correct" camp.
[06:03] <somsip> tanatos: probably, but best asked in the RH or jboss channels
[06:03] <tanatos> ok
[06:04] <tanatos> sorry i fail, write in the wrong channel
[06:04] <tanatos> :p
[06:14] <Daedalus-x> hi to all
[06:15] <Daedalus-x> i want some instruction about building a deb package ( .deb ) frome the source code ...
[06:15] <Daedalus-x> no one can help me ?
[06:15] <Daedalus-x> thanks a lot
[06:16] <NegativeFlare> Daedalus-x: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/build.en.html
[06:16] <NegativeFlare> plenty of pages on it
[06:17] <Daedalus-x> i already try myself but i can make it work :X i'm new to this subject ... i want to make a package of Kvirc ( the last revision ) ..
[06:20] <Daedalus-x> NegativeFlare:  thanks anyway
[06:20] <NegativeFlare> Daedalus-x: look into ppa's
[06:20] <NegativeFlare> I need to sleep
[06:20] <Blue1> I am having trouble logging into cups (localhost:631) -- it keeps re-prompting for a password, even though I did an lppasswd and ensured that I am a member of lp and lpadmin
[06:20] <guest-hTMWMx> Hey guys, just installed the nvidia-340, nvidia-settings nvidia-prime.  I am now stuck in a login loop, yet I can log in on the guest account, just not my account.  Ubuntu 15.04 , here is my Xorg.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/11490375/
[06:20] <NegativeFlare> Blue1: login with root
[06:20] <NegativeFlare> you'll be fine
[06:20] <NegativeFlare> night guys
[06:21] <Daedalus-x> NegativeFlare:  there is some ppa with kvirc ( svn ) ???
[06:21] <NegativeFlare> Daedalus-x: apparently not
[06:21] <Blue1> NegativeFlare: that also does not work -- i tried that and it keeps re-prompting --
[06:21] <Daedalus-x> :(
[06:22] <NegativeFlare> Blue1: cups isn't setup probably then
[06:22] <NegativeFlare> :/
[06:22] <NegativeFlare> I need sleep
[06:22] <NegativeFlare> night
[06:22] <Blue1> NegativeFlare: okay I'd do some schlepping - one printer works, the other doesn't
[06:23] <Daedalus-x> if i can make this package i make a ppa myself wtf :X NegativeFlare thanks again bye :)
[06:26] <guest-hTMWMx> Anyone have any ideas?  Why can I log into guest account but not my account after installing nvidia?
[06:26] <penos> lol
[06:26] <penos> hmmmmmmmm
[06:27] <Bilz> hi all. easy question. I have matlab installed and i have to navigate to the folder /usr/local/MATLAB/R2014a/bin/ and run ./matlab everytime. How do I can make it so I can run matlab from terminal or alt+f2 any time without having to go tthe directory like this everytime, and what is the name of this technique (i've used it before but can't fidn it!)
[06:27] <hateball> guest-hTMWMx: have a look at ~/.xsession-errors.log for the failing user
[06:27] <hateball> guest-hTMWMx: that's ~/.xsession-errors
[06:28] <guest-hTMWMx> Bilz, create a bash shortcut?
[06:28] <Bilz> guest-hTMWMx, I guess that's what im looking for
[06:28] <somsip> Bilz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17536/how-do-i-create-a-permanent-bash-alias
[06:28] <penos> Bilz, sys link or add directory to PATH
[06:29] <penos> sorry sym link
[06:32] <Blue1> off to bed -- am not solving this tonight --
[06:32] <Bilz> thanks penos :)
[06:32] <penos> ok
[06:38] <madangel__> !
[06:40] <madangel__> I was trying to update using sudo apt-get update but I am getting so errors like :
[06:40] <madangel__> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:41] <madangel__> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/partner/i18n/Translation-en  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.150 80]
[06:41] <somsip> madangel__: give it a few minutes. They may just be being updated
[06:41] <madangel__> Err http://in.archive.ubuntu.com precise-security/main i386 Packages
[06:41] <madangel__>   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.24 80]
[06:42] <madangel__> somsip:
[06:42] <madangel__> somsip: I am trying it from yesterday but still it didnt get updated
[06:43] <denny_> hi
[06:43] <madangel__> hi
[06:43] <somsip> madangel__: second posted URL is a mirror. Maybe the mirror is down
[06:43] <Guest57926> my os is not booting
[06:44] <somsip> !details | Guest57926
[06:44] <madangel__> somsip: so?
[06:44] <somsip> madangel__: check if it is down. Change to a mirror that is availabl
[06:44] <madangel__> somsip: I didnt get you
[06:45] <geirha> The mirror appears to be up. Probably just out of sync
[06:46] <madangel__> Actually,I was trying to install the git send-email using sudo apt-get install git-email
[06:46] <madangel__> then I got an error and was asked to update
[06:46] <somsip> !info git-email precise
[06:47] <florian> bonjour
[06:47] <geirha> madangel__: have you tried ''sudo apt-get update'' to make sure the package lists are up to date?
[06:47] <madangel__> I tried that I got the above mentioned errors
[06:48] <geirha> err, right
[06:48] <florian> hello i have ubunto on my asus g750 and i have probleme with the sound . it goes out only by the subwoofer
[06:49] <penos> ll
[06:49] <penos> lol
[06:49] <penos> why u install ubuntu on ur laptop thereby destroying it
[06:50] <geirha> madangel__: There are probably others using that mirror in #ubuntu-in , you could try asking if anyone else is having that problem there. If so, it's the mirror, if not, something's wrong in your end.
[06:50] <madangel__> geirha:
[06:50] <madangel__> ok
[06:50] <cfhowlett> penos, installing ubuntu does NOT destroy hardware.  stop spreading Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.  Stop lying
[06:50] <cfhowlett> !fud | penos
[06:54] <geirha> madangel__: If it's the mirror, you could switch to the main server temporarily
[07:00] <yamoonsun> Potentially stupid question, but on windows, when I press the middle button on my mouse, I get a scroll courser. Can I replicate the effect on ubuntu?
[07:03] <x4w3> yamoonsun: i think with xinput you can do it
[07:04] <alfatau> hello all. I added an expresscard to my laptop to get an USB3 hub. Storage performances are really far from expected. Is there a way to know if the expresscard is connected to a PCIe 1.0 or to PCIe 2.0? Also, any other idea about debugging low expresscard performances?
[07:05] <x4w3> yamoonsun: edit xorg.conf with EmulateWheelButton
[07:12] <ttal> anyone know of a free way to have a static external ip?
[07:12] <Blue1> dyndns?
[07:13] <Blue1> oh free, no I don;t
[07:13] <somsip> ttal: noip.org used to, as did dyndns
[07:14] <ttal> Blue1: somsip: thanks guys. Yeah noip looks as though it shows ads
[07:15] <Blue1> ttal: i think I pay $20 or $25/year for dyndns -- it works
[07:16] <tom______> hi, can someone please tell what is the best and most simple pgp encryption tool for ubuntu?
[07:17] <prakash> paste.ubuntu.com/11470714  can anyone help me with this one
[07:17] <prakash> i have installed ubuntu 14.04 in lenovo b575 and it just wont bootup from ubuntu
[07:19] <Xodiac13> I have ubuntu 14.04 bluetooth was working and now i cant get it running again even going to system settings and turning it on doesnt work and its check marked to show on the task bar
[07:23] <top__> fd
[07:27] <x4w3> Xodiac13: start bluetooth service and check if it run properly to chkconfig it
[07:28] <x4w3> Xodiac13: check if rfkill list in terminal is ok
[07:28] <Xodiac13> okay
[07:29] <x4w3> and not forget check configuration too cat /etc/bluetooth/main.conf
[07:31] <Xodiac13> x4w3: It shows the device id under cat /etc/bluetooth/main.conf
[07:32] <Xodiac13> x4w3: its wierd cause it was working yesterday
[07:34] <x4w3> Xodiac13:  yes sorry, check others hcid.conf input.conf main.conf there is /etc/default/bluetooth
[07:34] <genkgo> if i installed a package with "dpkg --ignore-depends=package -i package.deb", then how can i make sure that i can install other packages afterwards with "apt-get install".
[07:34] <x4w3> where there is bluetooth_enabled= 1
[07:36] <Xodiac13> x4w3: when i did the cat command i didnt see bluetooth_enabled= 1
[07:36] <x4w3> and you have /etc/default/bluetooth=?
[07:38] <Xodiac13> x4w3: what the heck its not shown
[07:38] <Xodiac13> x4w3: can it be due to upgrading the kernel
[07:39] <x4w3> check if module is integrated in lsmod
[07:39] <x4w3> but normally in system preferences its enough to configurate it
[07:39] <x4w3> i dont remember if new ubuntu version desactivate by default /etc/default/bluetooth
[07:40] <x4w3> try to create it and put only line bluetooth_enabled= 1
[07:40] <x4w3> check it online in google to be sure wirting
[07:40] <x4w3> writting, and sorry dont help u correctly :)
[07:41] <Xodiac13> okay
[07:45] <Zerant> hi all, i installed ubuntu 15.04 yesterday and got a problem that the internal dns isnt working and the external just partially
[07:50] <logan___> wtf is internal dns and external dns?
[07:53] <Zerant> logan___, dont know how to put it, if i ping my storage server via name it wont resolve but if i ping the ip it works, if i ping google.com it works perfectly, but if i ping an server from a friend it wont work
[07:53] <Zerant> if i ping the ip from the server it works
[07:54] <somsip> Zerant: what 'names' are you using for the pings that wont work?
[07:56] <Zerant> i tried some things ... just the hostname or hostname.domain
[07:56] <somsip> Zerant: what have you done to create hostname->IP entries anywhere?
[07:57] <Zerant> somsip, its generated in the router and i have the router as an dns server
[07:58] <somsip> Zerant: From what you've ansered so far, it doesn't look like you understand how these things really work. What is your end goal?
[07:59] <Zerant> i want to reach my homeserver via name not ip
[07:59] <somsip> Zerant: from...where? The whole internet?
[08:00] <Zerant> no
[08:00] <Zerant> internal
[08:00] <somsip> Zerant: from other computers connected to the same router?
[08:00] <Zerant> somsip, just from lan... it works if i use ubuntu 14.04 with 15.04 it dont work
[08:00] <Zerant> somsip, from this one
[08:01] <Zerant> somsip, all other pcs are working ... Mac, Windows
[08:11] <zbbix2> Is there a way to tell init.d script to respawn the process if it was terminated without using any external tools such as daemontools etc..?
[08:17] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there everybody, installed 15.04 with kernel 4.0.0-040000 and with ppa:mamarley nvidia 349.16 installed. nvidia is correctly installed i can see it only dont show up in extra software programms?
[08:17] <MichaelTiebesl> in extra software programms is showing nouveau
[08:19] <k1l_> MichaelTiebesl: did you install the headers, too? they are needed to build the modules for that 3rd party kernel
[08:19] <MichaelTiebesl> anybody an idea?
[08:20] <MichaelTiebesl> yes also the headers
[08:20] <MichaelTiebesl> i saw 2 of them
[08:20] <k1l_> so see the logs if the nvidia modules were build successfully when isntalling the 3rd aprty nvidia package
[08:21] <MichaelTiebesl> in nvidia settings i can see they are also installed the 349.16
[08:29] <Nindustries> Hi guys, trying to add a key from keyserver.ubuntu.com. I have a proxy configured in /etc/apt/apt.conf that allows 80 and 443. > apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys EEA14886  still gives me connection refused. Ideas?
[08:36] <Nindustries> nvm
[08:39] <dibu> :q
[08:39] <wCPO> How can I change the keyboard layout with a live cd?
[08:40] <wCPO> console-setup/layoutcode only seems to work with X11
[08:42] <Rory_> Could anybody confirm if the version of package "ntp" 1:4.2.6.p3+dfsg-1ubuntu3.4, contains the fix for the vulnerability detailed here http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2449-1/
[08:44] <Rory_> or if I have to be specifically on the version mentioned in that link      ntp 1:4.2.6.p3+dfsg-1ubuntu3.2
[08:44] <Rory_> I would assume yes, since it's a higher version number
[08:46] <madangel__> !
[08:47] <madangel__> When I try sending a patch using git send-email I am getting an error after the question "Send this error?" And the error is:
[08:47] <robbanp> So got this problem; cannot press "enter" in ssh; it gives me ^M
[08:48] <madangel__> Unable to initialize SMTP properly. Check config and use --smtp-debug. VALUES: server=localhost encryption= hello=localhost.localdomain at /usr/lib/git-core/git-send-email line 1110.
[09:04] <rejns> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11492904/
[09:04] <rejns> i have this error
[09:04] <rejns> how can i resolve this
[09:04] <rejns> i cannot reinstall gitlab
[09:08] <Jaser> hi
[09:09] <Jaser> Should I use ubuntu desktop or server for vmware workstation? personal use only
[09:10] <Masked-Man> Desktop.
[09:10] <Masked-Man> Server is only more lightweight.
[09:11] <Jaser> I see, because I need to minimize process as much as possible
[09:11] <Masked-Man> Server just comes without GUI and some programs.
[09:12] <Jaser> I see, not so much difference between process?
[09:12] <Masked-Man> Yeah.
[09:13] <Masked-Man> If you care most about optimizing i would suggest Ubuntu net minimal, But it takes some tinkering.
[09:13] <somsip> Jaser: install minimal and build up from there if you want really basic install at the start
[09:13] <Jaser> I see 2 download options in desktop the LTS and other one. which one would you recommend?
[09:13] <Masked-Man> LTS.
[09:13] <Masked-Man> It's more basic.
[09:13] <somsip> !LTS (not more basic, just supported for longer)
[09:14] <somsip> !LTS  | Jaser (not more basic, just supported for longer)
[09:14] <Masked-Man> LTS is more stable. Basically non-LTS is testing.
[09:15] <Jaser> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" <--- minimal right?
[09:16] <Masked-Man> Yep.
[09:16] <somsip> Jaser: no, 14.04 is 14.04, then there are packaged versions for Desktop, Server or Minimal (and the other flavours too)
[09:17] <Masked-Man> Oh he thought Trusty was minimal?
[09:17] <Masked-Man> Go to the Minimal section.
[09:17] <somsip> Masked-Man: re-reading it, not so sure now. Either way he probably needs this for 14.04 minimal, which is a good recommendation IMHO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[09:19] <Jaser> exact page I went
[09:20] <Jaser> I think I'll just install desktop LTS
[09:20] <philco> Hello Ubuntu-ers
[09:20] <Jaser> kinda new to linux sorry
[09:20] <Ben64> you don't have to be sorry
[09:20] <philco> Noob here too
[09:22] <ahop> Hi!     Have you ever had a $ ls     => Segmentation fault    ? :D
[09:23] <philco> hi ahop - i'm a noob...sorry
[09:23] <Masked-Man> That's okay Jaser but it will not be very optimized.
[09:24] <somsip> philco: appreciate you wanting to be friendly, but if you say that in response to every question, it's not really adding much help. If you dont know the answer, just let someone else response.
[09:24] <philco> ok - sorry
[09:24] <Masked-Man> Such as a optimized setup would be Base, X11 and VMware.
[09:25] <turambar> hi. i am trying to write a bash one liner
[09:25] <ahop> Seveas: any idea?
[09:25] <bojan> I have applied ACL permission for many files and folders...Now i want to know how to take backup with the same permission and i want the backup to restore with the same ACL permission applied
[09:25] <madangel__> !
[09:25] <Jaser> thanks guys
[09:25] <turambar> for i in $(echo {a-d}); do xfs_repair /dev/sd$i1; done
[09:26] <madangel__> How to config smtp to send patches
[09:26] <philco> i just got ubuntu and i cannot seem to install maxthon browser - everything else is working fine
[09:26] <turambar> but xfs says /dev/sd no such file or directories
[09:26] <Jaser> i hope i can run atleast 3 vm machines :)
[09:26] <turambar> why does /dev/sd$i1 not work?
[09:26] <Ben64> turambar: you may want to ask ##bash
[09:27] <bojan> BAckup tool name??
[09:28] <bazhang> !sbackup | bojan
[09:29] <bojan> bazhang:Will it backup with the same permissions applied also??
[09:29] <bazhang> bojan, need more details
[09:30] <bojan> bazhang:I want to backup the files and folders with the same permission as they have and the same permission should be automatically applied in its restore also
[09:31] <bazhang> bojan, you want to create a restore point iso, like that?
[09:33] <bazhang> !backup | bojan have a read here and decide
[09:33] <bojan> I have some directories and files mounted on /mnt with some permissions applied on that folders..I want to take backup of that /mnt , if i restore the files the same permission for the files should also applied
[09:35] <somsip> turambar: for i in {a..d}; do echo /dev/sd${i}1; done (replace echo with your command)
[09:35] <turambar> somsip: thanks, #bash already helped me
[09:36] <somsip> turambar: k
[09:37] <mral3n> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu Mate 14.04 64 bit. For some reason my webcam (microsoft lifecam studio) only works on skype and nowhere else. I've tried multiple apps.. cheese, xeoma and some other recommended online and nothing.. only with skype. It worked before on this same distro and version but I formatted and reinstalled for my own reasons.. I've done a lot of googling and haven't come up with a solution, any ideas anyone?
[09:38] <Masked-Man> Microsoft must hide the drivers.
[09:38] <Masked-Man> And only make it compatible with skype.
[09:38] <mral3n> lol worked before I reinstalled the sys
[09:40] <Masked-Man> What are you trying to use it with that is not skype?
[09:40] <Masked-Man> You might have to configure the webcam with it.
[09:41] <mral3n> anything lol.. I've tried a number of things like vlc, cheese xeoma ..etc
[09:50] <Guest47962> l
[09:50] <Guest47962> how to change my name
[09:51] <Guest47962> a
[09:51] <Guest47962> ls
[09:51] <acetakwas_>  /nick newName
[09:51] <Skizu> Anyone installed multiple certs?
[10:01] <Daedalus-x> ./chanstats chanstats
[10:01] <Daedalus-x> .chanstats chanstats
[10:09] <vivek_temple> hi ameya
[10:09] <ameya_temple> vivek: hi
[10:09] <ameya_temple> vivek_temple: hi
[10:10] <vivek_temple> ameya_temple: hi
[10:47] <wCPO> What script is performing the fsck check?
[11:00] <Jaser> hi guys, I need help with my ubuntu desktop
[11:01] <Jaser> I just installed it, and when I installed an update can't seem to connect to internet now
[11:01] <Jaser> the IP settings is still the same before install
[11:06] <Jaser> anyone?
[11:07] <Fleuv> Jaser: are you able to ping a external ip/domain?
[11:09] <Jaser> nope
[11:09] <Jaser> all un reachable
[11:09] <Jaser> it happens to me everytime I install an update
[11:10] <Jaser> even in lubuntu, I thought lubuntu was just buggy yet still happens to me in ubuntu
[11:11] <Fleuv> Jaser: how is your network configured?
[11:13] <Jaser> manual
[11:13] <Jaser> It was working before I installed the update
[11:13] <Jaser> that is why I received an downloaded the update anyway.
[11:14] <Jaser> just so weird
[11:14] <IceBot3000> Jaser: Have you looked in dmesg when you try to connect?
[11:15] <mgolisch> did you install any drives for your networking gear manualy?
[11:16] <Jaser> nah i didn't
[11:16] <Jaser> it says i'm connected lol
[11:17] <Jaser> I think I will have to reinstall, I messed up with partitions anyway
[11:18] <Jaser> I can't create partition to, I have 1tb HDD but it says it is using 930gb -_-
[11:18] <Jaser> and only 44 MiB unused
[11:18] <Jaser> I feel like an idiot -_- new to this OS
[11:24] <wCPO> Can't it boot a live cd with a custom virtuel console keyboard layout?
[11:35] <Digistras> Hi guys...just like to ask if it is advisable to go for vivid now or wait for the LTE?
[11:36] <Ben64> Digistras: up to you, next LTS is 16.04
[11:44] <boriseto> Is there a way to make the icons that wiggle for attention in the Unity DE to do that until clicked (focused)?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:45] <token> What's the best note-taking app for ubuntu 15.04 ?
[11:46] <k1l> boriseto: dont they do that until the focus is on that app?
[11:48] <madangel__> When I am trying to send a linux-kernel patch I am getting the following errors:
[11:48] <boriseto> k1l, they stay lit or something, but don't wiggle all the time. Just occasionally I guess.
[11:48] <madangel__> Unable to initialize SMTP properly. Check config and use --smtp-debug. VALUES: server=localhost encryption= hello=localhost.localdomain at /usr/lib/git-core/git-send-email line 1110.
[11:49] <pitchblack> I have a question about GObject.mainloop, can anyone help me out?
[11:51] <somsip> pitchblack: this is a specfic programming language question?
[11:52] <somsip> !pm | pitchblack
[11:52] <mgolisch> pitchblack: iam sure the gnome developer portal can
[11:52] <mgolisch> :)
[11:53] <pitchblack> !pm somsip
[11:56] <pitchblack> I need help with GObject.MainLoop.
[11:57] <mgolisch> pitchblack: whats exactly is your problem with that?
[12:00] <reliability> hi
[12:00] <reliability> Does the ubuntu installer dvd come with openjdk package?
[12:01] <k1l> boriseto: see unity-tweak-tool for settings on that
[12:01] <reliability> I might need to install ubuntu on non-internet-connected laptops and I need openjdk.
[12:02] <reliability> Or is there even a live-dvd which has openjdk installed?
[12:03] <Jaser> what type of partition should be is /home?
[12:03] <Ben64> ext4 ?
[12:03] <hateball> reliability: you could apt-get download the packages and keep on a thumbdrive for offline install. It is optional, so not included on any install media
[12:04] <Jaser> ext3 is also ok?
[12:04] <Jaser> because I put ext4 / and ext3 /home
[12:04] <Ben64> why?
[12:05] <Jaser> I just assumed, I'm new to this
[12:05] <Jaser> I assumed that I can't put 2 ext4
[12:05] <Jaser> so it should be ext4?
[12:05] <hateball> Jaser: Yes
[12:05] <Ben64> ext4 is better
[12:06] <Jaser> swap, ext4 /, ext4 /home <---- am I missing anything?
[12:06] <Ben64> looks good
[12:07] <Jaser> how about if I need a free partition like D drive in windows what should I put?
[12:08] <Ben64> you could mount it anywhere
[12:08] <Jaser> because I plan on installing virtual machine I want to put it on different partition
[12:08] <Ben64> normally /home would be the largest and where you keep stuff
[12:08] <Ben64> its not necessary to have that on a separate partition
[12:09] <Jaser> I see, so it's alright to save it on /home? the virtual machines
[12:10] <Ben64> yep
[12:10] <Jaser> Thanks a lot man, I'm new to linux so I don't know this stuff
[12:11] <Jaser> I'm planning to install virtual machines in linux since it consumes less resource than windows
[12:11] <Ben64> you might want to look into virtualbox
[12:11] <boriseto> k1l, thanks for the suggestion, there was no option in the tweak tool for that.
[12:13] <Jaser> which is better? virtual box or vmware workstation?
[12:14] <Ben64> i've never had a problem with virtualbox, and it's much easier to install
[12:14] <xarquid> ^ Virtualbox is also very lightweight.
[12:15] <Jaser> can I install multiple VM in it? like 3 or 4 windows 7
[12:15] <xarquid> ...and free ;)
[12:15] <xarquid> yes
[12:15] <Ben64> yeah you can
[12:15] <Jaser> virtualbox then :)
[12:15] <Ben64> if you have the rams for it...
[12:15] <xarquid> Most of it comes down to performance -- check out http://www.storagecraft.com/blog/battle-of-free-virtualization-tools-vmware-vs-virtualbox/
[12:15] <Jaser> I got 16gb RAM
[12:16] <Jaser> i7 processor
[12:16] <Jaser> i hope that is enough
[12:16] <Jaser> or else i need to buy additional RAM
[12:17] <Ben64> depends what you're doing, so... maybe?
[12:18] <Jaser> if you know bluestacks
[12:18] <Jaser> I'm planning to run it simmultanously
[12:18] <Jaser> on each VM I can create
[12:19] <dama> hI
[12:20] <Ben64> Jaser: running an emulator on a virtual system? : /
[12:21] <Jaser> yah, that is the plan
[12:22] <dama> Hi, can i install windows on ubuntu
[12:22] <Ben64> in virtualbox, sure
[12:22] <dama> how?
[12:23] <Jaser> I have 2 virtual machines on windows 7 running bluestacks already, but they eat my i5 with process
[12:23] <Ben64> run virtualbox, make a new.... virtual box? use your windows install media to install
[12:23] <ishtiaque> hey guys
[12:24] <ishtiaque> i'm wonering why kernel 3.16 recognises my touchpad and kernel 3.19 doesn't
[12:24] <mgolisch> and you think thats going to be better with linux?
[12:25] <dama> Thanks Ben64
[12:25] <ishtiaque> anyone with an answer to my question plz?
[12:25] <mgolisch> i mean i dont thinik virtualbox performs any better on linux than on windows
[12:25] <mgolisch> atleast not realy
[12:25] <Jaser> yah, I think since linux consume lower resource than windows
[12:26] <ishtiaque> people could u help my out with my synaptics touchpad problem?
[12:27] <Ben64> !patience | ishtiaque
[12:27] <Jaser> My point is I want almost all my resource go to virtual machines not the host OS
[12:27] <ishtiaque> actually i have done some searching all day and i still don't know what would cause a later version of kernel not recognise my touchpad :(
[12:31] <frib> hi.  when i connect hdmi ubuntu doesn't recognize the audio device automatically and i'm forced to restart.  how can i fix that?  thanks
[12:31] <mgolisch> the auto interface should allways be there
[12:32] <ishtiaque> *bump*
[12:34] <inad> :q
[12:36] <otjura> in unity is there any way to remove menu item or do I still need alacarte?
[12:44] <telematica> ola
[12:45] <telematica> desde bmanga santander para el mundo entero que en este mismo instante usa mi canal en xchat 10.04
[12:45] <NegativeFlare> !es
[12:45] <labtelematica> RESPONDO DESDE BMANGA SANTANDER SERVER IRC
[12:47] <labtelematica> #TELEMATICA
[12:47] <NegativeFlare> labtelematica: let's not
[12:47] <DJones> labtelematica: Do you have an ubuntu support question (in English)?
[12:48] <labtelematica> YES
[12:48] <BluesKaj> !shout
[12:48] <BluesKaj> labtelematica, no need for ther caps lock
[12:51] <telematica> rthswfhgkjahgkjshkjvhgsjkhgjavhbg
[12:51] <telematica> kzdfjkgzhfdgzkjvhrthiusdhfitg
[12:51] <telematica> auioehgruiahfegviuhsiurhgsouirhgew
[12:51] <telematica> oiefagioudshgiouhiourghqag
[12:51] <telematica> ghfdgydyter6esd
[12:52] <labtelematica> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
[12:52] <labtelematica> ,PKJMKNM
[12:52]  * NegativeFlare sighs
[12:53] <labtelematica> SIODYHFSODYTGW
[12:53] <labtelematica> STJS
[13:04] <pbx> error messages in the status bar icon for software updater always seem to have to do with Wine. is that just the way it is?
[13:04] <pbx> ubuntu 14.04, wine 1.6.2
[13:05] <genii> !info wine trusty
[13:05] <Ad1_RN> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[13:05] <Ad1_RN> or
[13:05] <Ad1_RN> sudo apt-get install -f
[13:06] <Ad1_RN> to repair packages
[13:09] <cypher-neo> pbx: What are the error message? Example, please?
[13:10] <ubuntunwb> hello everyone. I'm having the strangest issue with one of my machines. I'm running 11.10 and since this weekend, everything is running ridiculously slow
[13:11] <ubuntunwb> its acting as a webserver, so we rarely reboot or shut it down
[13:11] <ubuntunwb> I tried to reboot the machine but now I cant even load GRUB
[13:12] <ubuntunwb> I'm holding shift after POST. The message "GRUB Loading" appears but it just doesn't load. And then I'm stuck at the "purple screen"
[13:13] <ubuntunwb> I checked all the hardware but it seems everything is ok
[13:13] <ubuntunwb> any clues on what could be happening?
[13:15] <fellipe> hi all. How to set isc-dhcp-server to only bind/leases from wlan0 and never from eth0 ?
[13:16] <ikonia> set the bind address
[13:16] <fellipe> ikonia: hi. at dhcpd.conf?
[13:16] <ikonia> in reality it will only offer IP's if the subnet is on that card too
[13:16] <fowl> what would make audio skip in youtube
[13:16] <fowl> is ubuntu broke
[13:17] <ikonia> fowl: nope
[13:17] <fowl> audio is broke then
[13:17] <fowl> or its a feature?
[13:17] <ikonia> fellipe: it's an  init option
[13:18] <ikonia> fellipe: just pass the interface name as a startup argument
[13:18] <fellipe> ikonia:  DHCPDARGS=eth1 ?
[13:18] <ikonia> fellipe: that works
[13:18] <fellipe> ikonia: I would like to set something inside dhcpd.conf
[13:18] <ikonia> fellipe: you can't
[13:18] <fellipe> ikonia: what can I do inside this file?
[13:19] <fowl> is this the official ubuntu channel
[13:19] <ikonia> fowl: yes
[13:19] <ikonia> fellipe: in reality if your scope is on an interface that can't "see" that network, it won't offer addresses anyway
[13:20] <ubuntunwb> what would cause GRUB not to boot? i'm clueless :\
[13:20] <ikonia> ubuntunwb: define "not to boot"
[13:21] <fellipe> ikonia: so, if I have eth0 a.b.c.d/24 and wlan0 x.y.z.w/24 , and my range is x.y.z.0/24, so it will be restricted to wlan0, right?
[13:21] <ikonia> fellipe: yes,
[13:21] <hateball> ubuntunwb: if it's been "very slow etc", have you checked the HDD? if you run 11.10 I am guessing it is not very new hardware
[13:21] <ikonia> who said 11.10 ?
[13:21] <fellipe> ikonia: so many thanks
[13:21] <ubuntunwb> after POST, i'm stuck at a "purple screen" - srry i dont know the name of it
[13:21] <ryliefer> i'm currently running on x.org x server-nouveau display driver...i have a nvidia 720M and would like to switch to it..help please?
[13:22] <ubuntunwb> also, GRUB isn't loading at all
[13:22] <ikonia> ubuntunwb: if it's started to boot - grub has already loaded
[13:22] <ubuntunwb> all I'm seeing is a message stating: "GRUB loading"
[13:22] <ubuntunwb> then i'm stuck at that screen
[13:23] <ikonia> ubuntunwb: you said you hahd a purple screen a minute ago
[13:23] <ikonia> which is it ?
[13:24] <ubuntunwb> its just purple. nothing in it. Right after the message saying that GRUB was loading
[13:24] <ubuntunwb> although the message and the screen are 15minutes apart
[13:25] <ikonia> ubuntunwb: grub has already loaded and it started to boot
[13:26] <ubuntunwb> im astonished it takes so long. i have the machine powered on right now and its been around 30 minutes and im still at the same screen.
[13:26] <ubuntunwb> this picture isnt mine -> http://www.gubatron.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ubuntu_blank_screen_updating_to_11.10_screenshot_solution_1.jpg
[13:27] <ubuntunwb> but i'm seeing the same, except its not a VM
[13:27] <ikonia> ubuntunwb: are you using ubuntu 11.10 ?
[13:29] <ubuntunwb> yes I am
[13:29] <ikonia> ubuntunwb: ok - you need to get to a supported release
[13:31] <BluesKaj> !eol | ubuntunwb
[13:32] <fowl> where do i put this, ~/.profile? eval $(ssh-agent) && ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[13:32] <ubuntunwb> thanks but that wont do. at least for the time being. thanks for the hints. gonna try and swap the hdds.
[13:34] <BluesKaj> oh well, you can lead a horse to water......
[13:52] <Guest52221> 117.218.241.95)/close
[13:53] <yclingid> Hi Guys
[13:53] <yclingid> I just installed lamp on my ubuntu terminal
[13:54] <yclingid> 've been pulling out my hair, try to figure this out
[13:54] <yclingid> http://myipaddress/info.php ----> Not Found
[13:55] <spectrum256> someone knows what happened to the spotchat server?
[13:56] <Digistras> hi....how do I turn off the firewall permanently
[13:58] <spectrum256> the server is every time down
[13:58] <jpds> Digistras: It's not on by default.
[13:58] <jpds> Digistras: How did you turn it on?
[14:00] <Digistras> I assumed it was on
[14:00] <Digistras> how do i check if it is on or not?
[14:01] <cn28h_> ufw status
[14:01] <jpds> Digistras: sudo iptables-save
[14:14] <Razzdoll> I know this isnt #cairo-dock, but does anyone have experience with it? I cannot edit it and customize it with certain program icons, etc.
[14:18] <Guest61886> test
[14:23] <vlatko> \quit
[14:26] <mrj> hey guys, what’s the terminal emulator that continues a session if you get disconnected?
[14:26] <mrj> not screen or anything
[14:26] <xarquid> mrj: You can use autossh or mosh
[14:26] <mrj> mosh!
[14:26] <mrj> thanks. ill forget the name in another 2 months
[14:28] <MACscr> i have a system running on a small 8gb flash drive and its now 100% full. Seems my /var/cache folder has 3.3gb of data. Can i safely delete files from it? I cant even run apt-get autoclean, etc because the disk is full
[14:35] <pryorda> dumb question of the day
[14:35] <pryorda> how do i save my iptables rules and have them applied at boot?
[14:36] <ikonia> iptables-save > file.out
[14:36] <pryorda> ikonia: if only
[14:36] <ikonia> what do you mean "if only" thats how you back them up
[14:36] <ikonia> then if you look at the init script it reads the file from a location, just put that file in that location
[14:36] <pryorda> yes, now how to i have them applied at boot
[14:36] <ikonia> even better, use the ufw interface
[14:36] <pryorda> no iptables.service/init/init.d
[14:37] <pryorda> and ubuntu-server
[14:37] <pryorda> minimal
[14:41] <ikonia> pryorda: is it called as a dependencies, and init.d is for systemv/upstart scripts
[14:42] <ikonia> if you are using 15.04 it will be using upstart service blocks
[14:43] <pryorda> not understanding. there is no upstart/systemd/init.d scripts
[14:43] <pryorda> i could create one
[14:43] <pryorda> just not sure if that was the "way"
[14:46] <dStruct> quick question for you guys relating to SSH, I have a -L local port forward I use and I fully understand I could simply script something up in say Bash to shorten my command string up, however is there a way I could automatically setup a port forward when the user logs in, say using command= in my authorized_hosts perhaps?
[14:48] <SchrodingersScat> dStruct: could that be something for cron? or may be other startup script methods
[14:49] <dStruct> SchrodingersScat: I guess my question is more, how can you "add" a port forward to an existing SSH session?  is there some command line magic to make that happen?
[14:49] <SchrodingersScat> dStruct: oh, not afaik after it's connected
[14:50] <dStruct> SchrodingersScat: maybe my question is better asked in #OpenSSH as the only way I can find to initiate a port forwarding is via initial command line from the client connecting in
[14:53] <ioria> dStruct, maybe ssh  -l myuserid  -L 7777:work:22  gate  cat - (http://www.rzg.mpg.de/services/network/secure-shell/ssh-tunnelling-port-forwarding)
[14:54] <somsip> dStruct: there is a man ssh_config entry to reuse existing connections that might be worth looking up
[14:54] <dStruct> somsip: hmm interesting, i'll have to check into that..
[14:55] <somsip> dStruct: ControlMaster
[14:55] <dStruct> ioria: I don't believe that would work for my topology, I have basically a public server with firewalled ports, and I use SSH tunnelling to gain access from various clients across the interwebs from somewhat random IPs
[14:56] <ioria> dStruct, i see
[14:56] <dStruct> ioria: unless you can see a way to do what your link suggests without 3 hosts..
[14:57] <jpds> dStruct: Heard of https://github.com/apenwarr/sshuttle ?
[14:57] <dStruct> somsip: is ControlMaster similar to AutoSSH?
[14:57] <dStruct> jpds: no I have not
[14:58] <voiter> how do i install gtodo? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/gtodo/
[14:58] <somsip> dStruct: I've used it for multiple connections before I discovered tmux. So I'd connect to a server, slowly through negotiation. Second ssh to same server would be instant. No idea if it helps you on your query any
[14:59] <dStruct> somsip: sorta, basically I just want when I SSH into this server once I'm authenticated it will automatically build my tunnel/port forward, essentially just simplifying my ssh user@host -i /what/ever/key
[14:59] <somsip> dStruct: I understand, but have no idea if it will work like that which is why I pointed at the man page
[14:59] <jpds> dStruct: You want to SSH to a host, via another host?
[15:00] <dStruct> jpds: I ssh from a cygwin term into a Ubuntu 14.x box which hosts services I would like to access that are firewalled from the public
[15:01] <Digistras> Hi guys...
[15:02] <Digistras> between sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, whcih should be used first?
[15:02] <somsip> Digistras: update
[15:02] <x4w3> update of course :P
[15:02] <Digistras> or rather in which particular order should they be used?
[15:03] <somsip> Digistras: update, upgrade, dist-upgrade if upgrade tells you need it
[15:03] <x4w3> or full upgrade but its the same
[15:03] <jpds> dStruct: Yeah, try sshuttle.
[15:04] <dStruct> jpds: ok, thanks i'll check it out
[15:04] <dStruct> jpds: I may just write a dumb bash script to just simplify it, that would essentially do what I'm wanting, it's just not nearly as cool as if SSH would let me do it server-side :D
[15:07] <Razzdoll> Ok sorry I just got back, did anyone know the answer to my question?
[15:07] <somsip> Razzdoll: can you repeat it?>
[15:08] <Razzdoll> somsip; sure, I had asked if anyone knew anything about the cairo-dock. I do understand this isn't #cairo-dock, but I can't seem to get anything out of those guys for a few days, and cairo won't let me add icons/programs.
[15:10] <mgolisch> Razzdoll: what error do you get?
[15:13] <Razzdoll> mglisch, no error; but, when i goto add a custom launcher, it asks for a image or 'path' name. I hit the /usr/bin/<whatever-its-called>, but the image is still a bubble question mark, and doesn't operate or perform
[15:13] <mgolisch> did you select an image?
[15:14] <mgolisch> application images are usualy in /usr/share/pixmaps/
[15:14] <Razzdoll> mgolisch, I selected the program in /usr/bin itself. Cairo will only let me select one command line (image or application path).
[15:15] <Razzdoll> mgolisch, I am mistaken. I just looked, it says image path, and then command to launch on click. Whatever that meams
[15:15] <mgolisch> and it doenst work without the image?
[15:15] <Razzdoll> means*
[15:15] <acro458> Does anyone have any idea if there is a linux program similar to this: http://www.seattlelab.com/slnet_about/
[15:16] <mgolisch> is this something that doenst has a launcher allready? if not just use the existing launcher
[15:16] <Razzdoll> mgolisch,  yes it is a custom, no launcher, I add to Cairo using Custom Luancher settin
[15:16] <noobUser> I have setup SFTP and it seems to be working just fine.  I am wondering how i can see who is currenly logged in to it and who is transferring what and at what speed
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> acro458  there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:19] <mgolisch> noobUser: you can enable logging for the sftp subsystem in your sshd_config
[15:21] <mgolisch> but there is no general statistics overview or something
[15:21] <noobUser> ok thank you..i was hoping that wasn't the case, but i appreciate it
[15:31] <wCPO> A question.. What program read the casper preseed value?
[15:31] <ikonia> ubiquity?
[15:37] <wCPO> ikonia: okay, im trying to create a ubuntu custom live cd with a signage box. Capser isn't enough?
[15:38] <gfsh> If I submit changes to ubuntu under the CLA, does it mean I have to give up copyright on code to Canonical to be able to contribute?
[15:40] <OerHeks> gfsh, submitting changes will get the current License ofthat package, so yes?
[15:41] <jcarlosp_> hola
[15:41] <reisio> gfsh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributor_License_Agreement#Canonical
[15:41] <reisio> jcarlosp_: shalom
[15:41] <jcarlosp_> reisio Hola
[15:41] <MarkUX> hola
[15:42] <jcarlosp_> hola markux
[15:42] <MarkUX> no hablo espagnole
[15:42] <MarkUX> im from slovakia
[15:42] <jcarlosp_> No se si alguien me pueda dar el email de Mark el dueño de ubuntu
[15:42] <MarkUX> what
[15:43] <MarkUX> dont understand
[15:43] <MarkUX> :D
[15:43] <MarkUX> sorry
[15:43] <OerHeks> !es
[15:43] <jcarlosp_> the e-mail of Mark the owner of UBUNTU
[15:43] <yeukhon> not sure if this is the right group, but does anyone know how ntpd decides to handle the upcoming leap second? From what I understand ntpd operates by polling at designated interval, but what can I do to ensure leap second is handled properly? There is always network latency, clock always have +- offset…
[15:44] <OerHeks> jcarlosp_, you can find it @ http://www.markshuttleworth.com/
[15:48] <jcarlosp_> OerHeks Thanks very much
[15:55] <token> What's the best note-taking app for ubuntu 15.04 ?
[15:55] <MarkUX> hi
[15:57] <itry> Hello Everybody! fancontrol says it reads from hwmon2/temp2_input - is it possible to read that manually and see what it provides?
[15:58] <fowl> hi i'm on 15.04 and my sound is skipping all the time
[16:01] <deadmund> fowl: look at the output of top  is something taking a lot of resources??
[16:02] <fowl> deadmund,
[16:02] <fowl> no
[16:03] <deadmund> fowl: mmmmm, does this help?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[16:03] <Hanumaan> I want to get the source of a package which is generally apt-get source postgresql-9.4 but it does not work however sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.4 does work .. what is that I am doing wrong?
[16:05] <mgolisch> Hanumaan: whats the error you get?
[16:07] <Hanumaan> mgolisch: this is the error "E: Unable to find a source package for postgresql-9.4"
[16:08] <OerHeks> Hanumaan, did you enable src sources in your sourceslist? softwarecenter > edit > sources
[16:08] <mgolisch> Hanumaan: did you enable the source code sources for that repository?
[16:14] <sp0on> hi, I use gnome-flashback and I can not use more than one workspace. Any ideas?
[16:14] <sp0on> http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1433174628.png
[16:16] <whallz> hi
[16:16] <whallz> how can i preserve grep colors when piping to less ?
[16:18] <hplc> how to get a yellow circle around mousepointer? for claritys sake for us with less than good eyesight?
[16:20] <alu25> hi
[16:20] <Fleuv> Hey, I can't save my SSH password following: http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_9.html
[16:21] <Fleuv> This always worked for me but now I removed my .ssh directory and now it won't work anymore.
[16:21] <token> What's the best note-taking app for ubuntu 15.04 ?
[16:22] <pbx> token, say more about your requirements, what you think a "note taking app" needs to do.
[16:22] <whallz> token: try vim
[16:22] <zerowaitstate> whallz: grep --color=always <regex> <path> | less -R
[16:22] <SchrodingersScat> Fleuv: right, you removed .ssh
[16:23] <whallz> zerowaitstate: yup, i just changed my grep alias and worked, thanks
[16:23] <Fleuv> SchrodingersScat, it's a mistake what never will happen again
[16:23] <whallz> Fleuv: just create a new ssh key
[16:24] <zerowaitstate> ssh-keygen
[16:25] <Fleuv> You guys are seriously very intelligent people, thanks a lot! :D
[16:26] <Hanumaan> OerHeks, is there a way to enable with command line, because I use gnome desktop and probably it is not working
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> hplc  you're right, that mouse option is no longer available in the system settings, that's odd
[16:33] <token> pbx, i was thinking something where it lets me sync with everything... my phone, ubuntu and possibly windows
[16:33] <mgolisch> evernote?
[16:35] <token> evernote came on my radar, and perhaps that is the only solution
[16:36] <token> the reason i asked, was everpad is a bit buggy for me... sometimes the note window pops up, sometimes it doesn't
[16:36] <eggbeater> a complete uninstall-reinstall helps....sometimes
[16:38] <pbx> token, text files in dropbox is another cross-platform option
[16:38] <SchrodingersScat> owncloud + notes app?
[16:41] <mgolisch> hm evernote works perfectly for me in wine
[16:46] <wafflejock> token, Google Keep is a nice option I think too
[16:53] <henry8989> hello i was trying to get my nvidia 6150 onboard graphics to work with ubuntu 14.04 bu am having no luck it just boots up at present black screen with a cursor even if I install the proprietary nvidia drivers or the open source nvidia drivers
[16:54] <henry8989> i was thinking that maybe if i instal the ubuntu gnome edition that doesn't have the unity 3d that it might work since the unity 3d is causing the issue is that true?
[17:00] <blackflow> Guys, why is Steam not available through Ubuntu Software Center? I type in "Steam" in the search bar, and it doesn't give me something to install (yes, I know I can use command line apt-get).
[17:00] <blackflow> This is on 15.04
[17:02] <OerHeks> !find steam
[17:03] <OerHeks> it is in the multiverse repo
[17:04] <blackflow> OerHeks: I have that enabled
[17:05] <OerHeks> maybe the partner/nonfree ?
[17:06] <blackflow> OerHeks: I do get the icon in the Ubuntu Software Center when I searh for Steam, but when I click it I only get a "More Info" button, no install.
[17:06] <blackflow> and IIRC it was fully installable like that when I tried it last time in 14.04, I wonder what changed. I see I can download and start the launcher from steampowered.com
[17:07] <OerHeks> the steam package is just a installer of the steam.deb from their website. that deb installs a package and adds a repo to your sources
[17:07] <OerHeks> so if you take the one from the website, it is fine
[17:08] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[17:11] <eduardo__> any knows this command for what can be used ?? find <part> -xdev -type f \(-perm -4002 -o -perm -2000\)- followed by print chmod o-w <fitxer> ????
[17:13] <henry8989> or what about kubuntu will kubuntu work with nvidia geforce 6150 onboard graphics?
[17:13] <R13ose> How do I make the mic louder so people can hear others or is this not going to happen because of my hardware?
[17:14] <bekks> henry8989: Sure, why wouldnt it?
[17:14] <henry8989> because the regular ubuntu does nto work not matter what driver i install
[17:14] <bekks> henry8989: Define "does not work".
[17:14] <henry8989> the regular ubuntu shows a black screen with mouse cursor
[17:16] <henry8989> i tried the latest opensource and latest proprietary drivers and both no luck
[17:16] <bekks> henry8989: How did you install them?
[17:16] <henry8989> i tired to install the fanous 173 drivers that are suppose to fix the problem but they won't isntall when i use apt-get it says no available
[17:16] <bishops> Hi everyone, I urgently need help, my webcam used to work on laptop with ubuntu 14.04, but once I have re-installed OS, the webcam is not working. Any way I can make my system detect the webcam through a command line or something?
[17:16] <Razzdoll> How come I have no sound at all anymore, but last night I did on a youtube video. Can anyone help me diagnose? and also, when I play a video now (youtube), on FireFox Web brower, it tells me an error has occured.
[17:17] <henry8989> i installed them through the unity interface under additional drivers by using the nomodeset command at startup to force a 640x480 resolution unity desktop
[17:17] <test432111> hi is there anyway to move the close minimize and maximize buttons to the right on ubuntu 15.04?
[17:17] <henry8989> however now that i have the driver install i can't access the unity desktop even with the nomodeset command at startup
[17:19] <NoNick> Can I use the intel graphics update utility on ubuntu 12.04?
[17:19] <eduardo__> ny knows this command for what can be used ?? find <part> -xdev -type f \(-perm -4002 -o -perm -2000\)- followed by print chmod o-w <file> ????
[17:20] <eduardo__> or this find Popcorntime0.4/ -xdev -type d -perm -0002 -uid +500 -print
[17:20] <bishops> Hi everyone, my webcam used to work on laptop with ubuntu 14.04, but once I have re-installed OS, the webcam is not working. Any way I can make my system detect the webcam through a command line or something?
[17:20] <mgolisch> NoNick: if thats a supported distribution for the utility, if not probably not
[17:20] <NoNick> mgolisch: yep its not officially there
[17:20] <mgolisch> bishops: so no app detects the camera?
[17:21] <mgolisch> NoNick: then probably not
[17:21] <mgolisch> NoNick: whats the reason you think you need that?
[17:21] <bishops> mgolisch: Yes no app, well at least neither skype nor cheese
[17:21] <R13ose> any thoughts on my question?
[17:22] <henry8989> i just need to setup the pc as an internet browsing pc and document writing pc in my office don't need no fancy 3d graphics
[17:22] <henry8989> if thats hekps you et my dispaly working
[17:22] <NoNick> mgolisch: nothing just wanted to stay up to date
[17:22] <henry8989> if thats helps you get my display working
[17:22] <mgolisch> bishops: whats the cam?
[17:23] <bishops> mgolisch: not sure the specification. I'm using a lenovo x1 carbon, and it used to work so I'm not sure what's wrong
[17:24] <Razzdoll> Does anyone know how to fix a no sound problem?
[17:24] <henry8989> my pc is a 9500 amd phenom processor and has 3 gb ram 160 gb hard rive
[17:24] <Gabby> Is it working?
[17:25] <Razzdoll> Gabby, me?
[17:25] <NoNick> I installed almost all the 560 updates in one go on 12.04.. Sound from my speakers stopped coming. I resetted, it came back fine.. Is there any way to force to use the current audio drivers and not update? I knew there was but couldnt recall
[17:25] <R13ose> Razzdoll: http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/
[17:26] <mgolisch> bishops: hm odd, is this a cold boot?
[17:26] <Gabby> is this really working?
[17:26] <bishops> mgolisch: what's a cold boot :)?
[17:27] <Gabby> nobody's answering me. :D
[17:27] <mgolisch> bishops: like you booted from off to ubuntu, rebooting from other os or so
[17:27] <mgolisch> but usualy cameras are usb connected, shouldnt realy be a problem
[17:27] <bishops> mgolisch: I don't know maybe when I reinstalled ubuntu on it, for some reason it did not detect it automatically?
[17:28] <bishops> mgolisch: no I only have ubuntu on the laptop
[17:28] <mgolisch> oh i see
[17:28] <grumpycat__> Hello everyone!
[17:28] <Gabby> Hi grumpycat
[17:28] <Razzdoll> R13ose, <3
[17:28] <Gabby> Can you read that?
[17:28] <Gabby> Anybody?
[17:28] <mgolisch> Gabby: no we cant
[17:28] <Gabby> Say HI please
[17:28] <mgolisch> :)
[17:28] <Gabby> great
[17:29] <Gabby> haha, i thought you were bot
[17:29] <Gabby> haha
[17:30] <bishops> mgolisch: When I do lsusb in the terminal I get 3  things. Oh and by the way one of my USB ports is not working for some reason too!
[17:30] <Gabby> I have a problem with my laptop's resolution, who can help me here?
[17:30] <NoNick> I installed almost all the 560 updates in one go on 12.04.. Sound from my speakers stopped coming. I resetted, it came back fine.. Is there any way to force to use the current audio drivers and not update? I knew there was but couldnt recall
[17:30] <Gabby> My resolution is stuck at 1024 x 600 resolution
[17:30] <Gabby> anybody?
[17:31] <tiblock> Hi. Can i install ubuntu 14.04 desktop using 900mb flash drive? I tryed network installer, but it installed server version.
[17:31] <dasjoe> tiblock: you can turn your server version into Ubuntu Desktop, just run "sudo tasksel" and select "Ubuntu Desktop" to get the default desktop
[17:32] <mgolisch> Gabby: whats graphics hardware do you have?
[17:32] <bishops> Isn't there like a standard command line to manually detect hardware?
[17:32] <Razzdoll> R13ose, it isnt working on firefox, but yet it works on VLC, and my system, just not firefox
[17:32] <R13ose> no thoughts on my question?
[17:33] <mgolisch> bishops: so do you see the camera device?
[17:33] <wafflejock> tiblock, what are you actually trying to install on is it just a flash drive or some microcontroller?
[17:33] <mgolisch> bishops: lsusb -v should give more info
[17:33] <Razzdoll> R13ose, I didnt see a question from you, im sorry?
[17:33] <camoufl4g3> hi
[17:33] <R13ose> Razzdoll: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/fix-common-audio-and-video-issues
[17:34] <R13ose> How do I make the mic louder so people can hear others or is this not going to happen because of my hardware?
[17:34] <wafflejock> tiblock, regular full ubuntu-desktop meta package will install everything listed here which is probably over 900 http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-desktop
[17:34] <camoufl4g3> hello everybody
[17:35] <mgolisch> R13ose: tried to increase the mic volume in sound settings?
[17:35] <bishops> mgolisch: gee this is all gibberish to me :) what to do?
[17:35] <R13ose> mgolisch: I did that when using the mic, no luck.
[17:37] <bishops> mgolisch: i do actually get a message at some point saying that a certain Bus 001 Device 001 could not be opened and some information is missing..
[17:38] <wafflejock> bishops, what hardware?
[17:38] <wafflejock> bishops, what are you trying to get it to "Detect"
[17:38] <camoufl4g3> how i can install skype on ubuntu ?
[17:38] <shurtagul> Oh I just had a similar question
[17:39] <wafflejock> camoufl4g3, sudo apt-get install skype (in a terminal), or use the software center
[17:39] <camoufl4g3> thanks wafflejock
[17:39] <wafflejock> camoufl4g3, np
[17:39] <shurtagul> Is 4.3 on skypes website the latest version? It was released for ubuntu 12.04
[17:39] <bishops> wafflejock: I'm just trying to figure out why my webcam is not working. less important but still cool if fixed, one usb port also is not working
[17:39] <bishops> wafflejock: when i run lsusb i'm not sure what is what though
[17:40] <wafflejock> bishops, hmm yeah so you can paste.ubuntu.com the lsusb output, (or sudo apt-get install pastebinit, then run lsbusb|pastebinit)
[17:40] <mgolisch> what devices does it show?
[17:40] <wafflejock> bishops, I should be able to pick out the camera I imagine
[17:40] <wafflejock> bishops, then it'll have the device id and we can look up any issues
[17:41] <bishops> wafflejock: that would be great thank you! should I paste lsusb -v ? or just lsusb?
[17:41] <wafflejock> bishops, use the -v flag, actually the -k flag is good to so we get to see any driver/kernel module that's active for the devices too
[17:42] <nicomachus> hi guys, I was trying to upgrade to 15.04 (from 14.10) but got a warning that there was not enough available space in /boot. I can't re-partition right now, so need some help deciding to clear out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11501282/
[17:42] <mgolisch> and please use a nopaste service
[17:42] <henry8989> anyway to force install the old nvdia 173 drivers manually in ubuntu 14.04?
[17:42] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, so when I installed my OS, I remember setting swap to 4GB or something like that. However, when I htop, it shows that I have 0 swap. I've been occasionally getting crashes that I suspect are caused by running out of memory (only 2GB of ram). Anyone know how I can set swap again?
[17:43] <wafflejock> Scriptonaut, run free -m to see the swap space you have
[17:43] <bishops> wafflejock: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11501299/
[17:43] <wafflejock> Scriptonaut, check the swapon and swapoff commands for activating or deactivating the swap space
[17:44] <bishops> wafflejock: I couldn't do lsusb -k doesn't seem to exist
[17:44] <Scriptonaut> thanks wafflejock
[17:44] <wafflejock> bishops, ah my bad was thinking of lspci
[17:45] <bishops> wafflejock: no worries, should I do that?
[17:46] <wafflejock> bishops, nope for usb connected devices lsusb should have it
[17:46] <mgolisch> no webcams are not connected using pci usualy
[17:46] <wafflejock> bishops, lspci is just gonna be for like video card and the USB hub controller (chips on the board in a laptop or on expansion boards in a desktop)
[17:47] <ivan_on_trac> because it does not work in Ubuntu? sudo service network restart
[17:47] <bishops> wafflejock: Ah ok, yes was reading what it gave it seems more connected to Audio and VGA, but it does mention usb controller
[17:48] <wafflejock> bishops, weird lists mine 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04) just FYI in this listing the number on the far left with the : in between 8 characters is the device id and you can typically look up bugs or fixes using that id
[17:48] <wafflejock> er rather 4
[17:49] <shurtagul> Is 4.3 on skypes website the latest version? It was released for ubuntu 12.04
[17:49] <EriC^^> !info skype | precise
[17:49] <EriC^^> !info skype precise
[17:50] <nicomachus> Any help on removing old kernels from /boot? output of ls /boot
[17:50] <R13ose> Razzdoll: fixed?
[17:50] <nicomachus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11501282/
[17:51] <shurtagul> Im going to go with yes then
[17:51] <EriC^^> shurtagul: type apt-cache policy skype
[17:52] <EriC^^> it'll tell you what version apt has
[17:53] <bishops> wafflejock: so you think there are solutions?
[17:53] <shurtagul> Thanks EriC^^, it seems to be the same one as the deb, but installing the deb says theres an older version in the software channel
[17:54] <wafflejock> bishops, did you do a big update to the system recently including any kernel updates you're aware of or might have happened since last rebooting or is this a persistent problem?
[17:55] <wafflejock> bishops, it seems we may have lost the top part of your intended paste as well but the missing USB device got me to a thread where the issue was solved by a reboot and was due to some kernel updates that hadn't fully taken effect
[17:55] <bishops> wafflejock: I've just ran an update that mentions some socket thing
[17:56] <bishops> wafflejock: but otherwise have been updating very often
[17:56] <bishops> i can try to restart my system and see
[17:56] <wafflejock> bishops, has this been a problem between reboots though as well? like tried hooking the camera up after rebooting
[17:56] <wafflejock> if not give it a go it's an easy check
[17:56] <bishops> wafflejock: it has been a problem ever since I re-installed ubuntu 14.04 from scratch on the laptop
[17:56] <wafflejock> bishops, also can you paste up the lsusb without the -v so we just get the short list
[17:57] <bishops> here we go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11501555/
[17:58] <EriC^^> shurtagul: can you paste apt-cache policy skype and the error you're getting in paste.ubuntu.com ?
[17:59] <camoufl4g3> how I can see listenin ports on terminal ?
[17:59] <EriC^^> camoufl4g3: netstat -tuln
[17:59] <camoufl4g3> thanks
[18:00] <wafflejock> bishops, hmm okay so not getting anything from that really... do you have the device model can try to search based on that
[18:01] <bishops> wafflejock: sorry for the hassle, but how do i get the device model?
[18:01] <mgolisch> its the builtin webcam of the laptop
[18:01] <mgolisch> did you disable it somehow?
[18:02] <wafflejock> bishops, wait is this a built in webcam or a USB attached webcam?
[18:02] <bishops> wafflejock: no built in
[18:02] <wafflejock> ah okay yeah I think lspci is the right place to look then
[18:03] <bishops> wafflejock: here we go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11501653/
[18:04] <mgolisch> internal webcams are usualy connected via usb
[18:05] <mgolisch> if it doenst show up its either disabled or broken/damaged
[18:05] <bishops> mgolisch: if disabled how to know/check
[18:05] <mgolisch> bios/uefi settings?
[18:05] <Delta706> If I resize a partition with gparted, does it take into account the fact that kernel images should not move?
[18:06] <bishops> mgolisch: how to check bios/uefi settings?
[18:07] <mgolisch> bishops: usualy pressing some key while booting up, F2 or del or something, check your laptops handbook
[18:07] <Delta706> F2 works for me
[18:07] <bishops> mgolisch: ah ok that bios, but once in it how to look for webcam being disabled?
[18:08] <mgolisch> dunno checks if theres something about the webcam somewhere
[18:08] <bishops> mgolisch: Ok thanks!
[18:10] <wafflejock> mgolisch, bishops yeah you are correct sir
[18:10] <wafflejock> mgolisch, just checked with my built in web cam
[18:10] <wafflejock> mgolisch, bishops it was disabled with the function key for enabling/disabling the web cam
[18:10] <bishops> wafflejock: ok will check bios and see if I can find something to enable
[18:11] <wafflejock> doesn't show up in lsusb, enabled it and then was able to lsusb and see it and use it in guvcview
[18:11] <bishops> Will be back!
[18:11] <gghhgg> hey i can't figure this out.. how do you install ubuntu 14.04.2 without using wubi???
[18:12] <gghhgg> 64bit
[18:12] <wafflejock> !wubi | gghhgg
[18:13] <wafflejock> gghhgg, you should just follow the regular installation method essentially either burn a DVD or make a bootable USB
[18:13] <wafflejock> !install > gghhgg
[18:26] <dupingping> http://i.stack.imgur.com/hV6xc.png
[18:26] <dupingping> what is it?
[18:29] <superbuntu> hi, The Ubuntu installer / fdisk from Ubuntu live installer doesn't detect partitions on my ssd. There are partitions on this SSD (ext2 /boot, extended partition with lvm ext4 Ubuntu system) install into a laptop. I'm front of big issue with installer detect my partitions and with install grub2 on the disk. I have try some 20 or 30 times and it's absolutely impossible to install grub (working with boot repair after installation wi
[18:29] <superbuntu> thout boatloader) but it's working well with the disk into my laptop.
[18:32] <camoufl4g3> why I cannot send any message to other channel ?
[18:33] <superbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11502155/ this is insane and make me crazy... I have also tried to install fedora 22 and debian 8 with the same issue. It's possible to boot when installed with my laptop. but I can't install grub with installer except from boot repair.
[18:35] <bishops> mgolisch: I actually found in my bios that some usb was disabled so i enabled it. but still the webcam is not working. anything else I should do you think>
[18:37] <lambdu> hey guys, I have an encrypted Windows machine with a corrupted boot sector. Can I live boot into ubuntu and fix the boot? I'd rather not pay $1000 to have the data recovered
[18:41] <superbuntu> lambdu, it's  possible I think because of the boot sector can't be encrypted. You should try  boot repair  http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/boot-repair
[18:41] <mgolisch> bishops: like whoever that was suggested try the fn keys on the laptop
[18:42] <mgolisch> bishops: one might enabled the webcam
[18:42] <lambdu> superbuntu, sweet! Thanks a lot!
[18:43] <bishops> mgolisch: mm but the fn don't seem to apply to a webcam.
[18:44] <bishops> mgolisch: the interesting thing is that I still have a usb port not working.
[18:45] <bishops> mgolisch: it's ok i despaired.. need to go, so will try later, but thanks for the help
[18:48] <lambdu> superbuntu, will this work too? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootSectorFix
[18:50] <superbuntu> lambdu, well I hope yes
[18:52] <sor_> when a window is maximized how do i get it over the launcher?
[18:53] <EriC^^> sor_: what do you mean by over the launcher/
[18:53] <EriC^^> you mean minimize it?
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> sor_  you can hide the launcher, in system settings
[18:54] <EriC^^> oh ok
[18:54] <sor_> MonkeyDust, is that an auto hide feature? i just want it when it's maximized
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> sor_  system settings, appearance, behavior
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> sor_  not sure if that can be done, maybe with !ccsm
[18:56] <EriC^^> you can make a keyboard shortcut to minimize it, or better yet like MonkeyDust said use ccsm to hide it when a window is minimized
[18:56] <ubuntuidiot> when i do uname -m it says i686_64... which citrix receiver should i download?
[18:56] <ubuntuidiot> actually it says x86_64
[18:56] <sor_> MonkeyDust, thanks also what is more current fglrx or fglrx-updates
[18:58] <ubuntuidiot> when i do uname -m it says x86_64... which citrix receiver should i download? there are lots to choose from
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> sor_  haven't tried either, maybe someone else knows
[18:58] <sor_> MonkeyDust, thanks
[18:58] <sor_> What is more current fglrx or fglrx-updates
[18:58] <EriC^^> sor_: fglrx-updates has newer drivers
[18:58] <sor_> thanks
[19:00] <wafflejock> ubuntuidiot, just means you have a 64-bit processor, on the citrix receiver of the options on the site would get the .deb file one since it'll be easiest to install with dpkg -i, keep in mind this won't get updates unless their deb file adds a repo to your sources.list
[19:03] <sheap> is there a way to check which init system is being used as default in the installation process?
[19:07] <lambdu> Can you even access the bios of an encrypted machine?
[19:07] <EriC^^> of course
[19:07] <superbuntu> lambdu, yes you can access to the bios of encrypted machine.
[19:07] <lambdu> This was for my girlfriends mom.
[19:08] <lambdu> She told me about it too late.
[19:08] <lambdu> She sent it to a company that is charging her $1500...
[19:08] <superbuntu> lambdu, the encrypted machine is only the hard disk drive
[19:08] <EriC^^> lambdu: for what?
[19:08] <lambdu> $65 for assessment, $1000 for fixing it, and $500 for priority. I really with she came to me first
[19:08] <lambdu> To either fix her boot partition or recover her encrypted data.
[19:09] <EriC^^> recover her encrypted data?
[19:09] <lambdu> She has the password.
[19:09] <EriC^^> oh
[19:09] <superbuntu> lambdu, even if the machine can't boot about boot sector damaged, you can plug the hard disk drive into another computer and unlock the encrypted partition (if you know the passphrase) and save your data on another disk
[19:09] <Ben64> should report them as a scam
[19:09] <Johnny_Linux> big time scam
[19:10] <bray90820> If i did --delete with rsync and the drive was down would it delete every file or not delete anything
[19:10] <superbuntu> bray90820, I think rsync delete your files after coping them. So if the rsync command has finished, your data was deleted. I think so...
[19:11] <lambdu> I'm really shaken by this.... $1500... sadness 100%
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> bray90820  what superbuntu says is correct, i use that option too
[19:12] <superbuntu> MonkeyDust, thanks about confirm ;-)
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> bray90820  more precisely: if a file no longer exists on the source, it's delete in the destination too
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> deleted*
[19:13] <lambdu> It's a 30 minute process! No one should be paid $1500-$3000 per hour!
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> lambdu  stick to support questions
[19:13] <bray90820> MonkeyDust: Yes but if the source can't be found would it delete it from the destination?
[19:13] <lambdu> sorry
[19:13] <lambdu> Alright, thanks for the help guys :)
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> bray90820  yes
[19:15] <bray90820> MonkeyDust: What I want is for the source and destination to be a mirror of each other but not delete anything if the drive goes down if that's possible
[19:15] <tgm4883> bray90820: then you need to craft your rsync command/script to ensure the drive is up
[19:16] <OerHeks> bray90820, don't touch the --delete option then
[19:17] <tgm4883> bray90820: either A) put it in a script that checks if the drive is up first (maybe it looks for something that is always there), or B) (untested) you have the content of the drive be a folder deep on the drive, then if the folder doesn't exist (because the drive isn't mounted) rsync should (in theory) just error out
[19:17] <superbuntu> bray90820,  add a test condition before executing your rsync command is another way?
[19:17] <tgm4883> I've have to test option B though
[19:20] <santzzzzz> yo yo
[19:21] <santzzzzz> cmmmon man
[19:21] <santzzzzz> any one
[19:21] <santzzzzz> shit you all
[19:21] <bray90820> MonkeyDust: tgm4883: OerHeks superbuntu Thanks
[19:23]  * bitpimp I have a server being DDoS'd; I need to limit 
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> bray90820  if you're not sure, don't use it
[19:23] <bitpimp> traffic per IP; what's the best place to start?
[19:23] <bitpimp> iptables, clearly, but I remember ufw, or the like.
[19:23] <EriC^^> fail2ban?
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> bitpimp: anti ddos iptable
[19:24] <Ben64> nothing can really stop a ddos from software
[19:24] <bray90820> MonkeyDust: I'm learning right now everyones gotta start somewhere
[19:25] <bitpimp> running iptables commands on the server is producing 'command not found'
[19:25] <bitpimp> does ubuntu hide iptables behind something?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> bray90820  start with something harmless, create a test folder you can rsync with options... see what happens
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | bitpimp
[19:26] <Ben64> bitpimp: iptables isn't going to stop a ddos
[19:26] <popey> bitpimp: bitpimp is the "iptables" package installed?
[19:26] <popey> bitpimp: the binary is /sbin/iptables - maybe it's not in your path?
[19:26] <bitpimp> I thought about limiting connections per IP, as each IP is generating a lot of traffic.
[19:26] <bitpimp> popey: it's not, but I thought it was a default element.
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> if the attack is large, nothing much you can do indeed
[19:26] <bitpimp> popey: nothing in sbin
[19:26] <bray90820> MonkeyDust: That's exactly what I am doing once I get the options right I will use it for production
[19:27] <bitpimp> so it's not installed, but I thought I'd do a sanity check here before installing it
[19:27] <popey> bitpimp: is this your own server, or a server you rent from someone else - like a VPS?
[19:27] <popey> because if the latter then it may be a custom install
[19:27] <bitpimp> popey: it's a VPS
[19:27] <popey> there you go then
[19:27] <bitpimp> aha
[19:27] <popey> blame the provider :)
[19:27] <bitpimp> ;-D
[19:28] <corvelle_> hello
[19:28] <corvelle_> this is the Kolab room, right?
[19:29] <corvelle_> no...it
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> corvelle_: the ubuntu support channel
[19:29] <corvelle_> fuck kolab lol
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> someone knows if there is an ubuntu promo video somewhere, to use on a store computer?
[19:36] <ioria> i remember one with Nelson Mandela.....
[19:36] <ioria> it was on Maverick, i think
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> ioria: nelson mandela and ubuntu..?
[19:37] <ioria> yep
[19:37] <RDX4OO> ioria, XDDD
[19:37] <xangua> madiba¿
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> lemme search that
[19:37] <ioria> it mean humanity
[19:37] <ioria> *s
[19:37] <ioria> in some south afrivan dialect
[19:37] <ioria> african
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> ioria: funny :p
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  a boring 1 hour monologue by shutlleworth?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> (joke)
[19:38] <OerHeks> 2006 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODQ4WiDsEBQ
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> well ubuntu touch has one
[19:38] <EriC^^> sometimes there are stuff in /usr/share/example-content
[19:39] <bitpimp> what's a good way to diagnose that I am in fact under a DDoS from the cli?
[19:39] <bitpimp> might as well be sure before I try to mitigate it.
[19:40] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HED4h00xPPA
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: thats cool!
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: how fast.ogg
[19:40] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  ah... you emant technical promo ?
[19:40] <bitpimp> we bumped up workers, but they're getting consumed regularly.
[19:40] <EriC^^> yeah, it doesn't apply to 15.04 i guess :P
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> ioria: yeah promotional ubuntu video to play on store (to showoff Os)
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> ioria: check the video EriC^^ sugested
[19:41] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  sure
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> ioria: something like that, but longer with desktop showoff
[19:41] <bitpimp> how do I see active sockets?
[19:42] <ioria> i see
[19:42] <rkubis> asd
[19:43] <wiricus> Hi friends. I recently upgraded to 14.04 and having issues with pgraphics / text . can yall/somone here assist? thanks
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> ioria: found an 11.10 one: http://design.canonical.com/2011/10/so-youve-decided-to-make-an-ubuntu-promotional-video/
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: from wich version did you upgrade?
[19:45] <wiricus> mm 12.xx
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: graphics card chipset and driver loaded?
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: can you explain what happens exactly?
[19:47] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  that's good... but don't forget one for Lubuntu, for poor people :þ
[19:47] <wiricus> lotuspsychje,  Not sure about card chipset (or what that is). I downloaded Intel Graphics Installer for driver update, but get error that Distribution is not supported
[19:48] <wiricus> lotuspsychje, Have screenshot, figuring out where to upload
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: you can check sudo lshw -C video
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: imgur or tinypic
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> ioria: :p
[19:49] <wiricus> lotuspsychje,  http://postimg.org/image/j59mi7gir/
[19:49] <CowboyPride> Has anyone installed Munin on Ubuntu 15?
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: that looks like grafix distortion
[19:49] <CowboyPride> Trying to restart munin server but it is masked, and systemctl enable munin doesn't help
[19:50] <CowboyPride> systemctl unmask munin doesn't help either.
[19:50] <gartral|2> hey all, how do i get rid of this highly irritating 'feature' of Unity magnetizing my pointer to the the edges of my monitor?
[19:50] <wiricus> lotuspsychje,  yes its only in nautilis text and actually this textbox I am typing in. Chrome is fone
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: did the intel driver dont work for you at first?
[19:51] <wiricus> It worked fine before i upgraded to 14.04
[19:51] <gartral|2> bbiba
[19:51] <h3x89> hi
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: but you just tols us, you tryed to install intel drivers?
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: sudo lshw -C video please to pastebin
[19:53] <sor_> ok i open files in launcher right click gives no menu? how do i make a folder?
[19:53] <aragonite> hi! I am trying to monitor about a dozen log files that are on windows servers, about 1.5mb each. They are mounted via cifs. Is there a package I should be using? Preferably web interface, I don't want to reinvent the wheel. I thought about setting up shinken, but it seems like an overkill
[19:53] <sor_> other then mkdir
[19:54] <h3x89> sor_ cp other dir and erase it :)
[19:54] <wiricus> lotuspsychje,  http://pastebin.com/7j7UjFvQ   Did that work?
[19:54] <ioria> CowboyPride, sudo /etc/init.d/munin-node force-reload ... not working ?
[19:55] <sor_> h3x89, should it not be able to right click?
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: you have 2 screens?
[19:56] <wiricus> no
[19:56] <sor_> h3x89, can't right click on desktopn either
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: driver seems good for display 0
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> wiricus: maybe you need a fresh install 14.04
[19:57] <gartral|2> back
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> gartral|2: play with ccsm for unity plugins/settings
[19:57] <CowboyPride> ioria: I thought there was a munin server and a munin-node
[19:57] <sor_> ok better question should I be able to right click to make a dir in files on launcher or on desktop?
[19:58] <CowboyPride> munin-node works
[19:58] <CowboyPride> but doesn't munin "server" need to be running too?
[19:58] <gartral|2> lotuspsychje: I had a better idea, get rid of Unity all together
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> gartral|2: unity runs nicely here
[19:59] <CowboyPride> Trying to figure it out because I've added some other systems but they aren't showing up on munin graphs after waiting two days
[19:59] <ioria> CowboyPride, if you edited /etc/munin/munin.conf  the command is that, i remember
[19:59] <Bashing-om> sor_: I am not on unity, but I would expect that in order to make s new file That one would have to have the file manager open . Then in the menu choose "new file" (??) .
[20:00] <CowboyPride> Okay, I'll go back and re-read documentation and make sure I have it setup correctly.
[20:04] <gartral|2> argh... gpu crashed
[20:13] <sebastien__> quit
[20:17] <sebastien__> hi
[20:18] <gartral> uuugh... ok, not using unity was a bad idea... so... how do I get a non-composited Unity?
[20:18] <sebastien__> does anyone speak french? or could hel me, in english at least? i have an issue with my computer
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> !fr | sebastien__
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> sebastien__: whats your issue?
[20:19] <Bashing-om> sebastien__: IF you state your issue, someone may have a response to the question .
[20:20] <sebastien__> thank you
[20:20] <sebastien__> i cant log in my session
[20:20] <sebastien__> i mean graphically
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> sebastien__: ubuntu version?
[20:20] <sebastien__> (i don't even know if i'm using the good word with graphically...)
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> sebastien__: you mean you stuck at login prompt?
[20:21] <sebastien__> 10.14 i guess
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> sebastien__: you mean 14.04 perhaps?
[20:21] <sebastien__> when i type my pass word, the screen turns black for few seconds
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> sebastien__: or 14.10?
[20:21] <sebastien__> and then, back tu the login screen
[20:21] <Bashing-om> sebastien__: Do terminal commnad ' cat /etc/issue ' to know what relase you are on .
[20:22] <gartral> !fr | Sebastien__
[20:22] <sebastien__> 14.10, sorry
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> sebastien__: you can try recoverymode/fix broken packages
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> sebastien__: but as 14.10 support will end soon, i advise you to clean install 14.04 or 15.04
[20:23] <sebastien__> i looked on the internet, they said to remove .XAuthority
[20:23] <sebastien__> i did it, nothing changed
[20:24] <sebastien__> bashing, i type you command, gimme a sec
[20:24] <EriC^^> sebastien__: did recently edit ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc ?
[20:25] <Bashing-om> sebastien__: We often see 2 causes. 1) loss of authorization to access /home; 2) a broken proprietary graphics driver . Do you own and have permiision ? See the output of 'ls -al /home , ls -al /home/<sebastien> ' where sebastien__ is your username on your system .
[20:26] <sebastien__> i don't think so eric. i didn't opend my session for a long time. my roommate only loged in the (invited?) session
[20:27] <ceibal> windows
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> ceibal: can we help you?
[20:27] <EriC^^> sebastien__: if the invited session works, it's a config issue for your user
[20:27] <ceibal> puto
[20:27] <EriC^^> sebastien__: can you type cat ~/.profile ~/.bashrc | nc termbin.com 9999 and give us the link it gives?
[20:28] <sebastien__> bashing, what do you need to see in my home/<sebastien>?
[20:29] <sebastien__> eric, let type it ^^
[20:31] <sebastien__> ok, it says "http///termbin.com/sd63"
[20:31] <Bashing-om> sebastien__: You are in good hands with EriC^^ ... to many cooks spoils the soup .
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> +1
[20:32] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: no, the more the merrier :D
[20:32] <scriptor_> hello
[20:32] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Be assured I look over your shoulder - never can tell what I may learn .
[20:33] <dtigue> I've got a file, connections.tar.gz, which has all my company vpn info, about 50+ VPNs. How can I import that into Network-Manager without having to manually set all of them up again.
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> scriptor_: welcome, what can we do for you
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | dtigue
[20:34] <EriC^^> sebastien__: try cat ~/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:34] <sebastien__> thank you guys :)
[20:34] <scriptor_> Sorry for lack of protocol ...have not used irc since 2004 but I am having issues with ubuntu
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> scriptor_: you can place your quesyion here mate
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> question
[20:36] <sebastien__> @Eric^^ nothing
[20:36] <scriptor_> Every time i come across something online about compiling a bit of software I see something like ( $ ln blah blah) and I get "$: command not found
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> !compile | scriptor_
[20:36] <sebastien__> EriC^^, nothing, no file of this type
[20:37] <OerHeks> scriptor_, building is pretty easy: the error about a package gives a clue what you are missing.
[20:38] <EriC^^> sebastien__: try sudo cat ~/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:38] <EriC^^> sebastien__: sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:38] <scriptor_> I am tried of read crap about compiling and goggling/yahooing a meaning for why things do not work I do this and thing still do not work ...what is "$"
[20:40] <sebastien__> EriC^^, yes i think it's about lightdm idontknowwhat ^^ i went in cat var/log/auth.log, and it talks about pam kwallet and lightdm
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> scriptor_: we dont know what command you tryed?
[20:40] <EriC^^> sebastien__: hmm, type sudo adduser <newuser>
[20:40] <EriC^^> and see if you can login
[20:41] <scriptor_> If "$" is sudo why are people putting "$'" which does not work in ubuntu instead of sudo?
[20:41] <EriC^^> scriptor_: $ is the shell prompt
[20:42] <EriC^^> like X:\> in windows
[20:42] <OerHeks> $ is user, and # is root
[20:42] <sebastien__> EriC^^, done, new user added
[20:42] <EriC^^> sebastien__: try to login
[20:43] <sebastien__> not in the terminal? but in the desktop
[20:43] <scriptor_> if there are instructions for say ...compiling unreal why do people make it more complicated by having useless commands?
[20:43] <sebastien__> EriC^^, same thing. the screen turns black for a seconde, and then, back to the login screen
[20:44] <scriptor_> I am speaking of terminal use
[20:45] <EriC^^> sebastien__: oh, it's maybe a pam issue or something
[20:46] <sebastien__> EriC^^, yes that's something like that
[20:46] <sebastien__> EriC^^, do you want me to tell you exactly what says the cat auth.log in var/log?
[20:47] <EriC^^> sebastien__: sure
[20:49] <sebastien__> EriC^^, pam unable to dlopen (pam_kwallet.so)
[20:49] <EriC^^> sebastien__: did you try rebooting?
[20:50] <sebastien__> EriC^^, /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so
[20:50] <sebastien__> EriC^^, cannot open shared object, no such file or directory
[20:50] <EriC^^> !find pam_kwallet.so
[20:50] <sebastien__> EriC^^, of course i tried many times
[20:51] <EriC^^> sebastien__: type ls -ld /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so
[20:51] <EriC^^> sebastien__: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall pam-kwallet
[20:52] <EriC^^> nevermind the last command
[20:52] <sebastien__> EriC^^, no acces to blablabla, no such file or directory
[20:53] <sebastien__> EriC^^, i'm trying the apt-get
[20:54] <sebastien__> EriC^^, E: impossible to find the paquet pam_kwallet
[20:55] <EriC^^> sebastien__: nevermind, i don't have it installed either
[20:56] <EriC^^> sebastien__: try this workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1309535/comments/19
[20:58] <sebastien__> EriC^^, workaround?
[21:00] <EriC^^> sebastien__: yeah
[21:00] <EriC^^> sebastien__: i think it tells it not to use that lib
[21:04] <sebastien__> EriC^^, what do i have to do with that link? open it?
[21:04] <EriC^^> yeah, follow the instructions
[21:04] <zhango> test
[21:05] <zhango> whoa
[21:05] <zhango> it works
[21:05] <zhango> cool
[21:05] <zhango> what makes ubuntu better than debian
[21:06] <zhango> test
[21:06] <Bashing-om> zhango: If you use irssi, it is very cool . And debate belongs on #ubuntu-offtopic . This channel is support .
[21:06] <EriC^^> sebastien__: it says to open /etc/pam.d/lightdm and put comments beforeauth optional pam_kwallet.so and session optional pam_kwallet.so auto_start
[21:06] <EriC^^> *before auth
[21:08] <sebastien__> zhango, good game ;)
[21:09] <sebastien__> EriC^^, ok thanks, i didn't understand ^^
[21:11] <utu8o> can anyone play videos from this website using Ubuntu? http://www.bnn.ca/Video/player.aspx?vid=625997
[21:11] <nightmare_pimp> anyone care to chat with a gay dude from michigan?
[21:12] <sebastien__> EriC^^, what command do i use to open the file in the shell please?
[21:12] <VANESSA_VOLKOVA> hi
[21:13] <EriC^^> sebastien__: sudo nano /path/to/file
[21:14] <dtigue>  Lotuspsychje, had the bot give me the link to the ubuntu VPN wiki, but it is the most unhelpful site for my issue, can some one help...I've got a file, connections.tar.gz, which has all my company vpn info, about 50+ VPNs. How can I import that into Network-Manager without having to manually set all of them up again.
[21:14] <sebastien__> EriC^^, thanks
[21:20] <bug> hello
[21:20] <sebastien__> EriC^^, nothing changed. i tried to reboot, nothing changed
[21:20] <bug> :)
[21:20] <bug> how are u friend?
[21:20] <bug> *friends lol
[21:21] <EriC^^> sebastien__: are you sure you saved it correctly?
[21:23] <bray90820> How would I have a bash script run on a timed basis
[21:23] <EriC^^> bray90820: you mean at a specific time?
[21:24] <bray90820> Yes
[21:24] <OerHeks> cronjob
[21:24] <bray90820> Like every 12 hours or something
[21:24] <OerHeks> cronjobs and conkyscripts were the 2 things i started with, using ubuntu
[21:25] <sebastien__> EriC^^, yes, i opened it again, the are the #. b oth of them
[21:25] <EriC^^> bray90820: type man 5 crontab
[21:27] <EriC^^> sebastien__: did you try updating the system?
[21:27] <EriC^^> sebastien__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:28] <ock_> Hi guy, can anyone help me with my Installing Problem please? (Ubuntu 14.04.2)
[21:29] <sebastien__> EriC^^, i tried, but after, when i logged in again, it still said 400 paquets ready to be installed
[21:30] <Bashing-om> ock_: State the situation. Is this an UEFI system ?
[21:30] <EriC^^> sebastien__: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:31] <utu8o> so can anyone play videos from this website using Ubuntu? http://www.bnn.ca/Video/player.aspx?vid=625997
[21:32] <ock_> Hi Bashing-om , I have a normal Bios system. I followed the instruction guides on the offical website and loaded the iso data on a usb stick(16gb). When i start my system i can choose several options like "try ubunutu" or "install"
[21:32] <pertplus> hi, is it normal that certain folders in / have an older date than the date i installed the system?
[21:33] <pertplus> i.e. the /srv/, /mnt/ and /selinux/ folders have dates from 2012 even though the rest have the date in 2013 i installed the system
[21:33] <ock_> The problem is, if i choose install i can choose the language, connect to wifi and choose the installation i want(alongside windows). But i cant clikc Next/continue , only continue by restart.
[21:33] <genii> pertplus: That's entirely normal.
[21:34] <ock_> and then it all begins from the beginning
[21:34] <reisio> utu8o: problem with their website
[21:34] <pertplus> genii: why does it do this? related to when the install cd was prepared, or ?
[21:34] <sebastien__> EriC^^, it's updating, i have a bad connection... lol
[21:35] <almark> ock_  there should be some partition option stuff afaik
[21:35] <genii> pertplus: The files preserve the timestamp of when they were created, which means their original creation date, not when they were copied someplace
[21:35] <genii> pertplus: Their timestamps only usually change if they are altered
[21:36] <ock_> alamark: yea it should ... that part is missing :/ and i have no clue why
[21:37] <almark> perhaps your installer media is faulty sortof ock_
[21:38] <Bashing-om> ock_: That is a strange issue. NOT normal ... Maybe we best look at what the hard drive partitoning is presently ? In "try ubuntu" mode activate GParted and show us a screenshot from the utility depicting the hard drive that you will install ubuntu onto .
[21:39] <pertplus> genii : i see, thank you
[21:40] <EriC^^> sebastien__: ok
[21:40] <EriC^^> sebastien__: try rebooting after it's doneso it boots to the new kernel
[21:42] <ock_> Bashing-om: How can i get there? Sorry for my missing Knowledge.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> ock_: Not to know is not a sin, all were new at one time.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> !paste | ock_
[21:44] <sebastien__> EriC^^, yes i hope it will make it
[21:45] <OerHeks> ock_, for wifi, start a live session first, connect to the AP if your wifi-adapter is supported, then hit the install icon on the desktop
[21:45] <Bashing-om> ock_: While we are thinking, do you have access to a "wired" connection for this machine ?
[21:46] <lapatatandante> hi
[21:47] <ock_> Bashing_om: No i dont have a wired connection.
[21:47] <Bashing-om> ock_: OerHeks' advise ^^ applies .
[21:48] <ock_> 0erHeks: I have a wifi connection already
[21:49] <Bashing-om> ock_: Verify the connection with terminal command ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' . Is there a positive response ?
[21:50] <ock_> Bashing-om: yes 3 packets transmitted, 3 received
[21:50] <reisio> utu8o: try using freshplayer
[21:52] <OerHeks> ock_, oke then there might be an other problem, you cannot install alongside windows, did you make space for ubuntu? from within windows preferrably
[21:52] <Bashing-om> ock_: Good, we are back to examining the hard drive, see if we can spot a problem; a screenshot from GParted ( partition editor) is the fastest means to 'see' .
[21:52] <OerHeks> yeah, 4 primairy maybe
[21:54] <ock_> OerHeks: I did no space for ubuntu, just tried with "alongside windows", but there is enough space on my harddrive
[21:54] <ock_> Bashing-om: im going too install it and make a screenshot
[22:00] <Bashing-om> ock_: IF you are usng a stander desktop install . GParted is included by default. Boot to the desktop, top icon is the dash, click on it and enter serach term "gparted" and activate with the forthcoming icon .
[22:00] <Bashing-om> standard*
[22:00] <blackflow> Why do native Linux games perform catastrophically worse than their Windows versions? Is it because of xorg? Will things be better with Wayland?
[22:01] <ock_> http://imgur.com/JqlJwJI
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> blackflow  #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion
[22:01] <Bashing-om> ock_: look'n at your http://imgur.com/JqlJwJI .
[22:01] <ock_> Bashing-om: Thank you, already found it :D
[22:02] <OerHeks> blackflow, ubuntu is not going for wayland.
[22:02] <blackflow> OerHeks: okay, Mir then. Is there something I can do now, in 15.04 to improve the performance?
[22:02] <OerHeks> or #ubuntu-discussion :-)
[22:03] <Bashing-om> ock_: " already found it", means to me that you are aware that the 4 promary partitions available, Windows is using them all ?
[22:04] <ock_> Bashing-om: No i meant Gparted, not the problem.
[22:04] <Bashing-om> sebastien__: Have not 'seen' you in a bit, how ya doing now ?
[22:05] <OerHeks> err cannot suy anything, as we don't have specs of the system and what game and so on
[22:06] <sebastien__> Bashing-om, still trying to fix my issue ^^
[22:06] <blackflow> OerHeks: understandable. I thought maybe there are some general guidelines, like turn off X, turn on Y, ...
[22:06] <sebastien__> Bashing-om, talking with french in ubuntu-fr. a bit easier to me
[22:06] <Bashing-om> ock_: OK, the problem is that there is a 4 primary partition limit in the bios partitioning shceme. Windows presently occupies all 4 of them . Will have to xfer the data from one of those partitions, and repurpose that partition as an 'extended' partiton and in this container make provision for ubuntu .
[22:07] <sebastien__> Bashing-om, still fighting with that pam_kwallet problem
[22:08] <Bashing-om> sebastien__: K, Not in my knowledge base, so I will stand by .
[22:09] <ock_> Bashing-om: Thank you very much mate, also thanks to OerHeks. Im going to google how to do that.
[22:09] <Bashing-om> ock_: OK, It is doable, we are here when you are ready to proceed .
[22:10] <sebastien__> Bashing-om, too bad :/ i'll tell you if i can fix it before i got to bed
[22:11] <Bashing-om> sebastien__: EriC^^ Has the lead here , I am just trying to keep things tidy .
[22:11] <ock_> Bashing-om: Thank you :). Win7 was preinstalled on my pc, that why all 4 partions are used.
[22:12] <sebastien__> EriC^^, the updates are done, and still nothing changed :/
[22:13] <EriC^^> sebastien__: did you boot into the newer kernel?
[22:13] <EriC^^> sebastien__: you could try installing pam-kwallet, it could fix it most likely
[22:13] <danielbw> what is the best kernel to use for atserisk?
[22:13] <danielbw> lowlatency or realtime?
[22:13] <danielbw> asterisk
[22:14] <bv> Hi, I want to increase a value for each found file. I tried: `find . -name "*.ext" -exec echo $i; i=$((i + 1)) \;` but it didn't work. Any suggestions?
[22:15] <Bashing-om> ock_: Often times the partions are labeled. linux terminal command ' sudo fdisk -lu ' may reveal that there is a "recovery partition" that you could copy off to a DVD. Repurpose that partition for ubuntu . - is but one way .
[22:15] <bv> Sorry, I tried this" `find . -name "*.ext" -exec bash -c "echo $i && i=$((i + 1))" \;`
[22:16] <EriC^^> bv: are you trying to get the number of found files?
[22:16] <bv> Yes but I'll use in somewhere later
[22:16] <bv> It's not my main goal
[22:17] <EriC^^> bv: find ......... | wc -l
[22:17] <bv> EriC^^: For example, I will use that value to copy these files like 1.ext, .ext ...
[22:18] <bv> 2.ext, ...
[22:18] <EriC^^> bv: it wasn't working cause you need to use i=$(($i + 1))
[22:18] <sebastien__> EriC^^, i rebooted yes. how do i reinstall it? i don't know the exact syntax :o
[22:18] <bv> EriC^^: still the same :/
[22:19] <EriC^^> bv: there might be another typo or something
[22:19] <EriC^^> bv: you might use | while read
[22:20] <bv> EriC^^: It prints just 1 for each file, it doesn't increase
[22:20] <ock_> Bashing-om: The problem is that i have no burner...
[22:20] <EriC^^> find .... | while read i; do something with $i... ; done
[22:20] <ock_> But i could get a license for windows for free (student)
[22:21] <almark> you can usb stick as well i guess ock_
[22:21] <almark> use
[22:22] <EriC^^> bv: c=0; find ... | while read i; do cp "$i" "/path/to/dir/$i.ext"; i=$(($i+1)); done
[22:22] <EriC^^> bv: c=0; find ... | while read i; do cp "$i" "/path/to/dir/$c.ext"; c=$(($c+1)); done
[22:22] <EriC^^> bv: test it first
[22:22] <EriC^^> bv: c=0; find ... | while read i; do echo cp "$i" "/path/to/dir/$c.ext"; c=$(($c+1)); done
[22:23] <sebastien__> EriC^^, i tried "sodu apt-get install lightdm", but it was the last version... so nothing changed
[22:23] <Bashing-om> ock_: I am looking twice at the gparted output . Not like what I am seeing . Are you attempting a "WUBI" install ?
[22:23] <Bashing-om> ock_: I am concerned. Can you boot Windows presently ?
[22:23] <bv> EriC^^: It worked, thanks
[22:24] <ock_> Bashing-om: Yes i just booted Windows- thinking of taking important files and deleting windows completly :D
[22:24] <EriC^^> sebastien__: sudo apt-get install pam-kwallet
[22:25] <Bashing-om> ock_: Not a good thing to dump Windows for ubuntu, there is culture shock .
[22:27] <ock_> Bashing-om: I still have a Laptop with Windows. I spend too much time for gaming anyway... so i would be able to concentrate more on programming and learning.
[22:27] <sebastien__> EriC^^, also tried, and then nothing cause "no package pam_kwallet" found
[22:27] <Bashing-om> ock_: For a 'beginner' you have the right of it . Dual boot Windows and ubuntu . Whne comfortable with ubuntu, then dump Windows .
[22:27] <EriC^^> sebastien__: it's pam-kwallet not pam_kwallet
[22:27] <sebastien__> EriC^^, really?
[22:28] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:28] <almark> Bashing-om imo the unity interface is more straigtforward than windows
[22:28] <Bashing-om> ock_: Outstanding then to use this machine solely for ubuntu and learning ! .. I then have no reservations .
[22:28] <sebastien__> EriC^^, oh god... it's done. i check
[22:29] <sebastien__> EriC^^, ew, still the same black screen and back to the login
[22:29] <EriC^^> sebastien__: check /var/log/auth.log
[22:29] <almark> ock_ it's weird to have a complete linux on a ntfs fs though
[22:29] <EriC^^> same error?
[22:30] <Bashing-om> almark: ock_ I so have a high degree of appreciation for the unity interface . But does not fit my meager work flow . I boot to terminal myself.
[22:30] <ock_> Bashing-om: Hmm when you guys say so its maybe not such a good idea to do that
[22:31] <EriC^^> sebastien__: try sudo apt-get install libpam-gnome-keyring
[22:32] <almark> if you really want to get the feeling of unix/linux you shouldn't have ntfs ock_
[22:33] <Bashing-om> ock_: When I relooked, I did see partitions as NTFS and then I saw " /media/ubuntu/XXXX " Beats me how things are working on this hard drive. ubuntu file system is ext4 by default; Windows is NTFS .
[22:33] <EriC^^> that's the live session i think
[22:34] <ock_> almark: so thats a against Windows and linux at the same time right? :)
[22:35] <ock_> Bashing-om: I have no idea to be honest...
[22:35] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Thanks, IF the liveUSB is 'sda' then that will go a long way in expalining, huh ?
[22:35] <sebastien__> EriC^^, nothing new with the libpam
[22:35] <almark> well you can have a windows ntfs partition and a linux partion if you want
[22:35] <sebastien__> and now in the auth.log, the issue has changed
[22:35] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: where's the link you guys are talking about?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: ock_ http://imgur.com/JqlJwJI .
[22:36] <EriC^^> thanks
[22:36] <sebastien__> EriC^^, lightdm : pam_ck_connectore (lightdm-greeter:session): pam_sm_open_session
[22:36] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: ock_ Attempting to install ubuntu to hard drive .
[22:37] <EriC^^> that looks like the hard disk, from gparted booted in a live session
[22:37] <sebastien__> EriC^^, lightdm : pam_ck_connectore (lightdm-greeter:session): pam_kwallet : open_session called without kwallet_key
[22:37] <EriC^^> and the hdd's are mounted by the try ubuntu user
[22:38] <EriC^^> ock_: do you need any info from windows? if not just install ubuntu as usual
[22:38] <ock_> EriC^^: so its normal?
[22:38] <EriC^^> ock_: yeah, you still have the ntfs partitions of windows
[22:38] <sebastien__> EriC^^, requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "sebastien"
[22:39] <EriC^^> but it looks like you merged your windows install to the "boot"  partition windows has ( just a guess )
[22:39] <ock_> EriC^^: I dont need
[22:39] <EriC^^> ock_: ok, then just install as usual
[22:39] <EriC^^> "wipe hdd and install ubuntu"
[22:40] <EriC^^> sebastien__: i think it would be solved if you added your user to autologin
[22:40] <EriC^^> as a temporary fix
[22:40] <ock_> EriC^^: Sorry , i wanted to say : Win7 was preinstalled on my PC. I would install it as ususal but Bashing-om suggested me not to do it because it will be quite a shock
[22:40] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: ock_ That is all true, but IF 'sda' is the hard drive AND all partitions are NTDS, I get concerned seeing the mount points for 3 partitions as "/media/ubuntu" . Not what I had expected to see; for an internal hard drive .
[22:40] <EriC^^> sebastien__: it would login by itself without a password when ubuntu starts
[22:41] <gh0strider> hey guys i have a weird problem that just started occuring...
[22:41] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: those are partitions he's mounted in nautilus i think
[22:41] <gh0strider> okay so when i try to log into ubuntu 14.04 from the gui login screen when i enter the password the screen flashes the background changes and then it goes back to login screen
[22:41] <gh0strider> it does not say invalid password
[22:42] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: he's not installed ubuntu yet, you mean it's odd that he can mount the recovery partition from nautilus?
[22:42] <gh0strider> what is weird is that i can use the "guest login" and it loads my desktop manager
[22:42] <gh0strider> but for some reason i can't log in as my regular user...
[22:42] <EriC^^> gh0strider: type ls -ld ~/.Xauthority after pressing ctrl+alt+f1 and logging in
[22:42] <knocktwice> gh0strider: sounds like your window manager is crashing.
[22:43] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Nah, all explained now to my simple mind . I can now understand what I am looking at from your description .
[22:43] <gh0strider> knocktwice: okay i just logged in...
[22:43] <nicomachus> hey guys, I just got done upgrading to 15.04 from 14.10, and rebooted. But now I'm stuck on GRUB
[22:43] <gh0strider> i keep getting this message pop up
[22:44] <gh0strider> mei_me 0000:00:03.0 timer: connect/disconnect timeout
[22:44] <ock_> Bashing-om: EriC^^ i rebooted and made another screenshot: imgur.com/XevK8yp
[22:45] <knocktwice> gh0strider: I seem to remember having a similar problem -- something to do with a new kernel module to handle new out-of-band bus interfaces
[22:45] <knocktwice> gh0strider: but I don't think that's related to the WM crashing.
[22:45] <gh0strider> okay i am going to try to disable that with the blacklist
[22:46] <gh0strider> let me run the command you said first..
[22:46] <Bashing-om> ock_: Yeah, that is more in-line with what I expect to see. We still have that 4 primary partition limit . Will have to make provisions to install ubuntu .
[22:46] <gh0strider> knocktwice: after running the ls =ld ~/.Xauthority
[22:46] <gh0strider> here is the output
[22:47] <knocktwice> gh0strider: yeah, I've blacklisted the mei-me module
[22:47] <gh0strider> -rw----- 1 root root /home/user/.Xauthority
[22:47] <wowa_s> hello
[22:47] <EriC^^> ghostwalker: ok, type sudo chown <your user>: ~/.Xauthority
[22:48] <EriC^^> sebastien__: you there?
[22:48] <ock_> Bashing-om: Is there a way to delete one Partition (i dont think i need the recovery anymore, because i can get a license) and "get some" storage from another partiton without to delete something? ^
[22:49] <gh0strider> knocktwice: do you know how to restart the modprobe file blacklist.conf so i can stop getting those annoying outputs of mei_me
[22:49] <knocktwice> gh0strider: not off hand, no.
[22:50] <nicomachus_> repeating my question just because I dropped my connection: hey guys, I just got done upgrading to 15.04 from 14.10, and rebooted. But now I'm stuck on GRUB
[22:50] <nicomachus_> I think this happened when I upgraded to 14.04. but I don't remember what I did to reload grub
[22:51] <bray90820> If I was gonna setup a con job to happen every 12 hours would I have to setyo one for 0:00 and another one for 12:00
[22:51] <knocktwice> gh0strider: try modprobe --remove mei-me
[22:51] <Bashing-om> ock_: Best paractice is to cipy off the "recovery partition" . delete it in Windows, defrag twice, chkisk twice. Then in that unallocatd space in ubuntu installer, install to that unallocated space.
[22:51] <Bashing-om> copy*
[22:52] <gh0strider> okay...I just did a restart
[22:52] <gh0strider> lets hope this works...
[22:52] <almark> i don't like dual boot
[22:52] <EriC^^> bray90820: you could use * */12 * * * /path/to/command
[22:53] <gh0strider> knocktwice: do you think the .Xauthority file got changed when i did a system upgrade?
[22:53] <bray90820> Wouldn't that only happen once a day thi
[22:53] <bray90820> EriC^^:
[22:53] <EriC^^> bray90820: no, every 12 hours
[22:53] <almark> i keep a very small windows pc for stuff that i use that only runs on xp/7
[22:53] <bray90820> EriC^^: so it's not what time but how often?
[22:54] <EriC^^> bray90820: you can set the time, or use */ which means every , like */4 * * * * means every 4 mins
[22:54] <knocktwice> bray90820: man 5 crontab (just 'man crontab' gets you the wrong page)
[22:54] <bray90820> Alright
[22:54] <bray90820> I get it now thanks
[22:54] <gh0strider> knocktwice: that worked great! thank you so much for your help!
[22:55] <gh0strider> i love the open source community...lol =)
[22:55] <knocktwice> gh0strider: I dunno about .Xauthority... been too many years since I messed with it.
[22:57] <gh0strider> knocktwice: you mostly do console env?
[23:00] <ock_> Bashing-om: So i defraged it twice
[23:00] <ock_> Bashing-om: what is the other thing you mentioned?chkisk
[23:01] <blackflow> How does one install individual .deb file including the dependencies it declares?
[23:02] <knocktwice> gh0strider: I do a lot with console -- it's been the constant companion for many years, after all. WMs come and go.
[23:02] <sebastien__> EriC^^, sorry, i was with french in ubuntu-fr
[23:02] <bray90820> EriC^^: I just wanna check that this would happen every hour
[23:02] <bray90820> "* */1 * * *"
[23:02] <sebastien__> EriC^^, how do i do that autologin?
[23:03] <blackflow> bray90820: just put the first one to 0, that's 0th minute of any hour
[23:03] <blackflow> bray90820: you don't need the */1 then
[23:03] <bray90820> Alright
[23:03] <bray90820> But what I have right now is every hour right?
[23:03] <EriC^^> sebastien__: try just adding to nopasswdlogin group first, it might work
[23:03] <EriC^^> bray90820: yeah
[23:04] <blackflow> bray90820: I guess, it's a weird way to specify it
[23:04] <bray90820> Alright
[23:04] <bray90820> I will change it tho
[23:04] <EriC^^> sebastien__: sudo usermod -aG nopasswdlogin <your user>
[23:04] <knocktwice> gh0strider: not super happy with MATE, but I guess it's working ok for now.  I plan on trying Xfce soon.
[23:04] <bray90820> Just so I know it starts at 0
[23:05] <bray90820> EriC^^: Thanks
[23:06] <Bashing-om> ock_: I was on smoke break, Yeah in Windows is a "check disk" command 'chkdsk" (?) . Run it twice to make sure Windows partition table is intact .
[23:08] <ock_> Bashing-om: Oh okay, found it. automatic correction i guess?
[23:09] <Bashing-om> ock_: Unable to advise on that, as it has been years since I booted Windows . My memory will fail on Windows commands .
[23:10] <ock_> Bashing-om: Okay :) I think it worked, no i have a completly empty drive, ready too use.
[23:12] <Bashing-om> ock_: Then just "erase disk and install ubuntu' option will work nicely for your use case .
[23:12] <sebastien__> EriC^^, instead of my password, there is a "log in" button, but still nothing happen :/
[23:14] <Bashing-om> ock_: ^^ caveat I am looking at "  completly empty drive " , such that Windows is no longer a consideration .
[23:15] <EriC^^> sebastien__: ok, type nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[23:16] <ock_> Bashing-om: i think i have to take the option "something else"
[23:16] <scriminal> cd
[23:16] <EriC^^> sebastien__: type sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[23:17] <EriC^^> this is mine, if you don't have one create one and modify it and put your username next to autologin-user=
[23:17] <EriC^^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11506645/
[23:17] <tom_> Hi, can anyone please tell me what is the best wat to PGP encrypt with ubuntu?
[23:17] <EriC^^> sebastien__: ^ also you might need to edit the user-session if you're using kubuntu and not unity
[23:17] <tom_> is there an application or do you need to do it with the terminal?
[23:17] <bazhang> !info seahorse
[23:17] <bazhang> tom_, ^
[23:18] <OerHeks> !pgp
[23:18] <Bashing-om> ock_: The option "something else" is valid IF you have pre-partitioned and/or make up unallocated space .
[23:18] <sebastien__> EriC^^, what do i do inside it?
[23:18] <EriC^^> sebastien__: it is an empty file or there's stuff?
[23:18] <EriC^^> did you see the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/11506645/
[23:19] <tom_> thankyou
[23:19] <sebastien__> EriC^^, [seatDefaults]
[23:19] <sebastien__> EriC^^, greeter-session=unity-greeter
[23:20] <ock_> Bashing-om: wont  "erase disk and install ubuntu" uninstall windows?
[23:20] <sebastien__> EriC^^, user-session=ubuntu
[23:20] <sebastien__> EriC^^, nothing more
[23:20] <EriC^^> sebastien__: add the line autologin-user=<your user>
[23:21] <Bashing-om> ock_: Most assuredly it woould" BUt you did say " completly empty drive " . I take that to mean that just as you say . An empty drive that Windows no longer exists .
[23:22] <sebastien__> EriC^^, done. do i have to reebot?
[23:22] <EriC^^> sebastien__: type sudo service lightdm restart
[23:23] <ock_> Bashing-om: Yea i said that meaning that there is nothing anymore on D: drive (twige defrag, delete, ) but it was still visible on "Computer"
[23:24] <sebastien__> EriC^^, it came back from the shell to the login screen, but still nothing
[23:24] <Bashing-om> ock_: OK, delete the partition such that it is "unallocated" . and then yes in the ubuntu installer choose "something else" and point the installer to that unallocated space .
[23:26] <sebastien__> EriC^^, well it's already half past 1 in the morning overhere, so i'll go to my bed. thank you very much for the help, i'll try it more tomorrow
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[23:31] <Bashing-om> ock_: When that partition is deleted, and unallocated space ( now only 3 partitions ) then run Windows chkdsk to make sure Windows' partition table is intact .
[23:33] <l> hi
[23:33] <ock_> Bashing-om: No there is another option on "something else" called Free Space :)
[23:34] <ock_> Bashing-om: As was should i use this partition im now creating? Fat16,32 ext4?
[23:35] <Bashing-om> ock_: How much ? as there was a small amount of 'free space' prior to removing the recovery partition. We do not want to confuse with that 1.00MiB space .
[23:36] <Bashing-om> ock_: The installer will take care of formatting the partition . The default is ext4 .
[23:37] <ock_> Bashing-om: Yea the  freespace is 42949 MB , so it worked. What type of partition should i make? Primary or Logical? And as what should i use it-> Ext4,Ext3...Fat16/Fat32?
[23:39] <ock_> Bashing-om: okay ext4.
[23:39] <Bashing-om> ock_: I do expect the installer to take care of these details, but the partition will be "extended" and in this extended partition will be a minimum of a '/' and 'swap' partitions of type "logical"
[23:42] <gdi2k> anyone know the command for changing the fallback output device in pulse audio? I would like to assign a keyboard shortcut to change the fallback device so the volume controls affect the correct device depending on whether I'm listening to headphones (one audio device) or external speakers (another audio device)
[23:42] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | ock_
[23:46] <phix> hi hi, I upgrades from 14.04 LTS to 14.10, now grub doesn't show up, black screen computer takes a nap
[23:47] <phix> Steve_Jobs: Aren't you dead?
[23:48] <dsDestruktiv> you cant die when you're a good.
[23:48] <dsDestruktiv> *god
[23:48] <ock_> bashing-om: Thanks for that link :D
[23:49] <Bashing-om> ock_: Just to make sure we are always on the same page :) .
[23:50] <Bashing-om> phix: Can you boot to the grub menu ? and from there -> advanced options -> recovery mode ?
[23:51] <phix> Bashing-om: nope, no grub
[23:51] <ock_> Bashing-om: Thanks A LOT!! Installing right now :)
[23:51] <Bashing-om> phix: backup a bit, then, and regroup . Is this an UEFI system ?
[23:52] <phix> Bashing-om: Toshiba L650, it may be an ACPI issue so I am trying to apply an updated BIOS however I cannot find a flashing tool for it that will run off a boot disc / win pe image
[23:52] <phix> Bashing-om: no
[23:52] <Bashing-om> ock_: See ya on the other side !
[23:52] <phix> Bashing-om: 14.04 LTS worked on it
[23:53] <Bashing-om> phix: Humm .. Dual booting and both systems are installed onto the same hard drive ?
[23:54] <phix> I am not dual booting
[23:54] <phix> I installed 14.04 first, it ran fine then I applied the 14.10 update, rebooted and black screen
[23:55] <Bashing-om> phix: Let's see if we can get ya to the grub menu . Reboot and as soon as the bios screen clears depress and hold the right shift key -> grub menu . Yes ?
[23:55] <phix> Bashing-om: I tried using flashrom to update BIOS but it recommends I don't use it
[23:56] <Bashing-om> phix: Flashing rom is done from a DOS base . OEMs do not support us in that respect .
[23:56] <phix> Bashing-om: I don't have a flashing tool
[23:58] <phix> (that will work in DOS, the one that Toshiba ships requires windows with VC++ and other unneeded libraries for a flashing tool)
[23:58] <Bashing-om> phix: IF ( and you are aware there is hazard in this ) you want to flash your bios there are ways to do it by building a DOS disk to do so .
[23:58] <phix> Bashing-om: ok where do i get the flash tool from?
[23:59] <ock_> Bashing-om: again thanks a lot and good night. youre the real mvp - greeting from europe.