| ochosi | you should have push-rights anyway, not sure why i created a team for that repo now :) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ochosi | interesting feature of github, that it shows the subfolder directly when there's only one | 00:01 |
| ochosi | never noticed that before | 00:01 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: you can push the debian packaging to the branch as well, i don't mind | 00:03 |
| ochosi | but in that case, we might have to push the icons back to a subfolder | 00:04 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: no, I'll restructure if I need to | 00:04 |
| bluesabre | er | 00:04 |
| bluesabre | np* | 00:04 |
| ochosi | :) | 00:04 |
| bluesabre | I might get this together tonight even, we'll see ;) | 00:05 |
| ochosi | awesome! | 00:05 |
| ochosi | even though it has 1700 icons, you can cut that in half, because 2 sizes | 00:06 |
| ochosi | that leaves you with about 800 icons, of which only ~150 people really see on a regular basis | 00:06 |
| ochosi | so it's sort of manageable i think | 00:06 |
| ochosi | and naturally i'm starting with the most ugly, but also most low-hanging fruit | 00:07 |
| bluesabre | fair enough | 00:08 |
| bluesabre | dinner time, bbabl | 00:08 |
| ochosi | bon appetit | 00:11 |
| ochosi | i'll head to bed | 00:11 |
| ochosi | night everyone! | 00:11 |
| knome | nighty | 00:16 |
| pleia2 | elfy: re: surveys - it's up to you, I kind of lost enthusiasm for the surveys (still need to go through last survey info, and follow up w/ people who said they wanted info about getting involved...) and we've already made some decisions for 15.10 about defaults that I think will make sense | 00:23 |
| knome | yeah... there are dozens who wanted to be contacted/more information | 00:30 |
| pleia2 | yep | 00:32 |
| pleia2 | should just draft up a generic email and Bcc: it to folks | 00:32 |
| knome | bah :) | 00:33 |
| knome | generic emails suck | 00:33 |
| pleia2 | heh | 00:35 |
| pleia2 | indeed | 00:35 |
| pleia2 | but time | 00:36 |
| knome | sure | 00:36 |
| knome | but in the end it's not too much | 00:36 |
| knome | the official part can be the same for everybody | 00:37 |
| pleia2 | mostly just personalize with name then? | 00:37 |
| knome | maybe, or sth like that | 00:37 |
| * pleia2 nods | 00:37 | |
| knome | there's a tb extension that does that automagically | 00:37 |
| pleia2 | neat | 00:38 |
| knome | off to bed | 00:53 |
| knome | ttyl | 00:53 |
| knome | and nighty :) | 00:53 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Elementary had an opinion on core? Well hey, awesome. | 00:58 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: with https://github.com/shimmerproject/libreoffice-style-elementary you now have a makefile... a bad makefile, but functional enough | 02:09 |
| bluesabre | make; make install; make uninstall; make clean | 02:09 |
| Unit193 | PREFIX and DESTDIR? | 02:11 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: never said it was a good makefile, just flubbed one together :p | 03:46 |
| bluesabre | and LO seems very particular about icon theme locations | 03:47 |
| bluesabre | bed time, bbl | 03:47 |
| elfy | pleia2: works for me - I decided there's no need ... | 06:12 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: nice that you could hack something together so quickly! works nicely | 06:52 |
| ochosi | elfy: just fyi, i've commenced work on the LO icon theme for xubuntu, it's already easily/readily testable, but we'll likely get it in a PPA at some point in the near future | 06:52 |
| ochosi | so in case you wanna take a sneak peek or anything, lemme know | 06:53 |
| elfy | ochosi: yep - read enough backlog to catch the drift of that :) | 06:53 |
| ochosi | good good :) | 06:53 |
| ochosi | just felt since it involves testing i better tell you ;) | 06:53 |
| Unit193 | That makefile will need to be patched by the packager. :P | 06:54 |
| elfy | heh | 06:54 |
| ochosi | Unit193: hehe, sure sure, but for the moment it does its job ;) | 06:54 |
| elfy | ochosi: and there in LO now | 06:58 |
| ochosi | still quite a few icons missing though | 06:58 |
| ochosi | this was just my first rage against the LO icon mess | 06:58 |
| elfy | no matter - I can just follow and check for ellipses as things change :p | 06:59 |
| ochosi | :) | 06:59 |
| ochosi | partly it's a bit about checking whether there are icons that really look misplaced | 06:59 |
| ochosi | like orange folder icons or the like | 06:59 |
| ochosi | so yeah, i think that sort of testing is a perfect match for you! | 07:00 |
| elfy | ha ha ha | 07:00 |
| elfy | ochosi: I guess you were always "Oh god ... icons :(" when the LO/abiword discussion started again :) | 07:04 |
| ochosi | yeah | 07:05 |
| ochosi | but then i buckled up and got to work ;) | 07:05 |
| elfy | :) | 07:05 |
| ochosi | bbl | 07:34 |
| ochosi | odd, the libreoffice icons don't work on my old 14.04 install @office | 10:26 |
| knome | hump | 10:26 |
| knome | old LO version acting up? | 10:26 |
| ochosi | could be | 10:28 |
| ochosi | i have 4.2.8.2 | 10:28 |
| ochosi | hmm, i really wonder whether 4.2 -> 4.4 makes such a difference there | 10:30 |
| knome | well, if the same stuff works on 4.4... | 10:30 |
| ochosi | yeah hum, not sure | 10:31 |
| ochosi | odd thing is, the other icon packs' deb packages look the same as in vivid | 10:32 |
| knome | :) | 10:32 |
| ochosi | so no idea what's not working | 10:33 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: one thing i notice is that the makefile sets the wrong file permissions. the zip shouldn't really have the executable byte set | 10:34 |
| knome | pebkac? (: | 10:34 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: update the permissions in the makefile ;) | 10:39 |
| bluesabre | or, what should the perms be? | 10:39 |
| ochosi | -rw-r--r-- | 10:40 |
| bluesabre | k | 10:40 |
| ochosi | i don't think that's really causing the issue though | 10:40 |
| ochosi | must be something else, no clue what | 10:40 |
| bluesabre | there's a libreoffice ppa, fwiw | 10:40 |
| ochosi | yeah, i'm asking the devs and then i'll check | 10:41 |
| ochosi | chmod 644 i guess | 10:41 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: fixed | 10:48 |
| ochosi | yeah, no change, still not showing up | 10:49 |
| ochosi | guess i could try the PPA to see whether it's really version-related | 10:49 |
| ochosi | i presume the icons work for yu? | 10:49 |
| ochosi | you | 10:49 |
| bluesabre | yes | 10:51 |
| ochosi | k | 10:51 |
| ochosi | hm, if anyone else has a chance to test this on 14.04, it would be a "nice to have" to get the theme working there too | 11:08 |
| bluesabre | I think I've almost got the packaging ready | 11:21 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: I have some basic packaging working now... I'll drop it into the shimmer daily ppa tonight | 11:34 |
| ochosi | nice! | 11:34 |
| ochosi | i'll continue the updating of the icons as i go | 11:35 |
| ochosi | but it should already be a noticeable improvement | 11:35 |
| ochosi | if you notice any missing or annoyingly bad icons, just submit an issue on the github tracker | 11:35 |
| ochosi | (same goes for anyone who uses/tests this) | 11:35 |
| ochosi | i might even make this public soonish, so that we get more feedback about important missing icons | 11:36 |
| knome | ochosi, oh, you don't want me to just fix/push? (; | 11:36 |
| ochosi | hah, well you should do that ofc | 11:36 |
| knome | nah, i'm just teasing | 11:36 |
| knome | of course i won't do that! | 11:36 |
| knome | seriously speaking, i might give a look at LO with what you have done so far at some point | 11:37 |
| knome | if you create a list of icons you want to revamp, that would be helpful too | 11:37 |
| ochosi | hmyeah | 11:38 |
| ochosi | actually with many icons it's hard to know what context they'll appear in | 11:38 |
| ochosi | that's why i want users to look | 11:38 |
| knome | sure | 11:38 |
| ochosi | the whole icon theme dirs are a huge mess | 11:38 |
| knome | but if you see an icon in context | 11:38 |
| knome | and think it's crap | 11:38 |
| ochosi | so it's hard to keep an overview | 11:39 |
| knome | but don't have the time to fix it... | 11:39 |
| knome | haha | 11:39 |
| ochosi | yeah, *if* | 11:39 |
| ochosi | :) | 11:39 |
| knome | i'll look for at least the icons i use constantly | 11:39 |
| knome | even if they aren't crap, i could try to push and make those consistent | 11:39 |
| ochosi | yup, that's all i want actually | 11:39 |
| ochosi | replacing all crappy icons would be far too much work | 11:39 |
| ochosi | i want the ones that matter the most | 11:39 |
| knome | for us or for regular users :) | 11:39 |
| ochosi | if/when you do that, please check the resolution of the originals | 11:40 |
| knome | fwiw, some of this might be useful for huego | 11:40 |
| ochosi | some have weirdo resolutions like 26x26 | 11:40 |
| knome | for use with inkscape/gimp | 11:40 |
| ochosi | yeah, there are many icons that would be shared | 11:40 |
| ochosi | but i'm not even thinking that far yet | 11:40 |
| knome | sure, no hurry with that | 11:40 |
| ochosi | (also, i don't use any node-based graphics editing in LO, so don't care) | 11:40 |
| knome | me neither | 11:41 |
| knome | then again, i use that in inkscape, so either way... | 11:41 |
| ochosi | yeah, if you're motivated to work on that, sure thing | 11:41 |
| knome | well | 11:41 |
| knome | i'd love to see the new icons | 11:42 |
| knome | but motivated... likely not enough to just do it | 11:42 |
| knome | :| | 11:42 |
| ochosi | the things that could be improved because prominent are things like "bold, underlined, italic" etc | 11:42 |
| knome | yep | 11:42 |
| knome | another thing you could write down is the style you are thinking | 11:42 |
| knome | or some guidelines | 11:42 |
| ochosi | they don't look totally misplaced though, so not even those are high on my list | 11:42 |
| ochosi | style is elementary, that's all | 11:42 |
| ochosi | should work well with that | 11:42 |
| knome | aha ok | 11:43 |
| ochosi | for now it's a copy-paste job | 11:43 |
| ochosi | and even that was enough work | 11:43 |
| knome | :) | 11:43 |
| ochosi | bbabl | 11:54 |
| knome | hf | 11:54 |
| ochosi | knome: if you feel like working on some real improvements, these would be very much appreciated: http://i.imgur.com/BKFSmzW.png | 13:59 |
| knome | yep.. | 14:20 |
| GridCube | yes | 14:21 |
| GridCube | ._. my proffessor cancelled today's class... because his son died on the weekend | 14:22 |
| GridCube | .___________. | 14:22 |
| GridCube | oops i though this was ot | 14:23 |
| knome | pleia2, ping | 20:04 |
| knome | http://www.piqo.fr/blog/piqo/10101-xubuntu-piqo-edition-telechargeable-en-pre-alpha.html#.VUeTwfntlBc | 20:58 |
| knome | ochosi, ^ did you see that already? | 20:58 |
| knome | ochosi, my first reaction confirmed by lyʒ - "they can't do that" | 20:59 |
| knome | also, making a blanket statement that xubuntu is "GPL"... | 21:00 |
| ochosi | knome: right, i didn't even know about the piqo | 21:06 |
| knome | me neither | 21:06 |
| knome | well until i bumped into it last week | 21:06 |
| ochosi | it would have been nice of those folks to get in touch with us, for starters | 21:06 |
| knome | i can't even remember how | 21:06 |
| pleia2 | knome: pong | 21:25 |
| knome | pleia2, can you dump sume css to extras.css? | 21:26 |
| knome | *some | 21:26 |
| pleia2 | sure | 21:26 |
| knome | oh wait | 21:26 |
| knome | we have a repository | 21:26 |
| knome | i'll prepare that | 21:26 |
| knome | pleia2, lp:xubuntu-website/static-assets is prepared for you | 21:32 |
| pleia2 | :) | 21:32 |
| pleia2 | k | 21:32 |
| knome | thanks | 21:33 |
| Unit193 | knome: docs.x.o going to have translations? | 21:33 |
| knome | Unit193, ask pleia2? | 21:33 |
| Unit193 | Aha, newer one does then. | 21:34 |
| pleia2 | yeah, just 15.04 | 21:34 |
| Unit193 | http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/hardware-devices.html#restricted-drivers is that supposed to look like that? | 21:35 |
| knome | likely not.. | 21:35 |
| pleia2 | knome: new extras.css is installed | 21:36 |
| * knome bows | 21:36 | |
| knome | Unit193, nope, but i can see that's a problem the new dir structure created | 21:36 |
| knome | it removed the files the old docs were pointing to | 21:36 |
| knome | (filenames changed at some point) | 21:36 |
| knome | xubuntu-book.css -> style.css | 21:36 |
| Unit193 | Eh, vivid looks fine and has translations, so I'm good. | 21:36 |
| pleia2 | I can stash them back, just need to remember | 21:36 |
| knome | pleia2, symlinking what i just said should be fine | 21:37 |
| knome | in libs/ | 21:37 |
| pleia2 | k | 21:37 |
| pleia2 | done | 21:38 |
| ochosi | btw, a LO 5.0 release is coming up and will land in wily | 21:39 |
| knome | pleia2, great, it even works | 21:39 |
| ochosi | just as a notice for something we might have to look out for | 21:39 |
| ochosi | elfy: ^ | 21:39 |
| knome | ochosi, maybe notice it in some blueprint(s) | 21:39 |
| ochosi | ok, added to -dev | 21:40 |
| pleia2 | knome: did you add the laptop+desktop drawings to the main site recently? | 21:41 |
| pleia2 | so cute! | 21:41 |
| ochosi | +1 | 21:41 |
| knome | pleia2, yep | 21:41 |
| knome | pleia2, planning on adding more of the same style, glad you like it | 21:42 |
| pleia2 | cool | 21:42 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/web_art/xwa-community.png | 21:42 |
| pleia2 | looks a bit dude-y | 21:42 |
| knome | i've been thinking to add a gal-ey one on the right | 21:43 |
| pleia2 | :) | 21:43 |
| drc | oooo...Xubuntu, the distro of choice for Guys and Dolls :) | 22:14 |
| Unit193 | Better than doodie.. | 22:38 |
| * drc looks for the soap.... | 22:40 | |
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