[00:00] you should have push-rights anyway, not sure why i created a team for that repo now :) [00:01] interesting feature of github, that it shows the subfolder directly when there's only one [00:01] never noticed that before [00:03] bluesabre: you can push the debian packaging to the branch as well, i don't mind [00:04] but in that case, we might have to push the icons back to a subfolder [00:04] ochosi: no, I'll restructure if I need to [00:04] er [00:04] np* [00:04] :) [00:05] I might get this together tonight even, we'll see ;) [00:05] awesome! [00:06] even though it has 1700 icons, you can cut that in half, because 2 sizes [00:06] that leaves you with about 800 icons, of which only ~150 people really see on a regular basis [00:06] so it's sort of manageable i think [00:07] and naturally i'm starting with the most ugly, but also most low-hanging fruit [00:08] fair enough [00:08] dinner time, bbabl [00:11] bon appetit [00:11] i'll head to bed [00:11] night everyone! [00:16] nighty [00:23] elfy: re: surveys - it's up to you, I kind of lost enthusiasm for the surveys (still need to go through last survey info, and follow up w/ people who said they wanted info about getting involved...) and we've already made some decisions for 15.10 about defaults that I think will make sense [00:30] yeah... there are dozens who wanted to be contacted/more information [00:32] yep [00:32] should just draft up a generic email and Bcc: it to folks [00:33] bah :) [00:33] generic emails suck [00:35] heh [00:35] indeed [00:36] but time [00:36] sure [00:36] but in the end it's not too much [00:37] the official part can be the same for everybody [00:37] mostly just personalize with name then? [00:37] maybe, or sth like that [00:37] * pleia2 nods [00:37] there's a tb extension that does that automagically [00:38] neat [00:53] off to bed [00:53] ttyl [00:53] and nighty :) [00:58] ochosi: Elementary had an opinion on core? Well hey, awesome. [02:09] ochosi: with https://github.com/shimmerproject/libreoffice-style-elementary you now have a makefile... a bad makefile, but functional enough [02:09] make; make install; make uninstall; make clean [02:11] PREFIX and DESTDIR? [03:46] Unit193: never said it was a good makefile, just flubbed one together :p [03:47] and LO seems very particular about icon theme locations [03:47] bed time, bbl [06:12] pleia2: works for me - I decided there's no need ... [06:52] bluesabre: nice that you could hack something together so quickly! works nicely [06:52] elfy: just fyi, i've commenced work on the LO icon theme for xubuntu, it's already easily/readily testable, but we'll likely get it in a PPA at some point in the near future [06:53] so in case you wanna take a sneak peek or anything, lemme know [06:53] ochosi: yep - read enough backlog to catch the drift of that :) [06:53] good good :) [06:53] just felt since it involves testing i better tell you ;) [06:54] That makefile will need to be patched by the packager. :P [06:54] heh [06:54] Unit193: hehe, sure sure, but for the moment it does its job ;) [06:58] ochosi: and there in LO now [06:58] still quite a few icons missing though [06:58] this was just my first rage against the LO icon mess [06:59] no matter - I can just follow and check for ellipses as things change :p [06:59] :) [06:59] partly it's a bit about checking whether there are icons that really look misplaced [06:59] like orange folder icons or the like [07:00] so yeah, i think that sort of testing is a perfect match for you! [07:00] ha ha ha [07:04] ochosi: I guess you were always "Oh god ... icons :(" when the LO/abiword discussion started again :) [07:05] yeah [07:05] but then i buckled up and got to work ;) [07:05] :) [07:34] bbl [10:26] odd, the libreoffice icons don't work on my old 14.04 install @office [10:26] hump [10:26] old LO version acting up? [10:28] could be [10:28] i have 4.2.8.2 [10:30] hmm, i really wonder whether 4.2 -> 4.4 makes such a difference there [10:30] well, if the same stuff works on 4.4... [10:31] yeah hum, not sure [10:32] odd thing is, the other icon packs' deb packages look the same as in vivid [10:32] :) [10:33] so no idea what's not working [10:34] bluesabre: one thing i notice is that the makefile sets the wrong file permissions. the zip shouldn't really have the executable byte set [10:34] pebkac? (: [10:39] ochosi: update the permissions in the makefile ;) [10:39] or, what should the perms be? [10:40] -rw-r--r-- [10:40] k [10:40] i don't think that's really causing the issue though [10:40] must be something else, no clue what [10:40] there's a libreoffice ppa, fwiw [10:41] yeah, i'm asking the devs and then i'll check [10:41] chmod 644 i guess [10:48] ochosi: fixed [10:49] yeah, no change, still not showing up [10:49] guess i could try the PPA to see whether it's really version-related [10:49] i presume the icons work for yu? [10:49] you [10:51] yes [10:51] k [11:08] hm, if anyone else has a chance to test this on 14.04, it would be a "nice to have" to get the theme working there too [11:21] I think I've almost got the packaging ready [11:34] ochosi: I have some basic packaging working now... I'll drop it into the shimmer daily ppa tonight [11:34] nice! [11:35] i'll continue the updating of the icons as i go [11:35] but it should already be a noticeable improvement [11:35] if you notice any missing or annoyingly bad icons, just submit an issue on the github tracker [11:35] (same goes for anyone who uses/tests this) [11:36] i might even make this public soonish, so that we get more feedback about important missing icons [11:36] ochosi, oh, you don't want me to just fix/push? (; [11:36] hah, well you should do that ofc [11:36] nah, i'm just teasing [11:36] of course i won't do that! [11:37] seriously speaking, i might give a look at LO with what you have done so far at some point [11:37] if you create a list of icons you want to revamp, that would be helpful too [11:38] hmyeah [11:38] actually with many icons it's hard to know what context they'll appear in [11:38] that's why i want users to look [11:38] sure [11:38] the whole icon theme dirs are a huge mess [11:38] but if you see an icon in context [11:38] and think it's crap [11:39] so it's hard to keep an overview [11:39] but don't have the time to fix it... [11:39] haha [11:39] yeah, *if* [11:39] :) [11:39] i'll look for at least the icons i use constantly [11:39] even if they aren't crap, i could try to push and make those consistent [11:39] yup, that's all i want actually [11:39] replacing all crappy icons would be far too much work [11:39] i want the ones that matter the most [11:39] for us or for regular users :) [11:40] if/when you do that, please check the resolution of the originals [11:40] fwiw, some of this might be useful for huego [11:40] some have weirdo resolutions like 26x26 [11:40] for use with inkscape/gimp [11:40] yeah, there are many icons that would be shared [11:40] but i'm not even thinking that far yet [11:40] sure, no hurry with that [11:40] (also, i don't use any node-based graphics editing in LO, so don't care) [11:41] me neither [11:41] then again, i use that in inkscape, so either way... [11:41] yeah, if you're motivated to work on that, sure thing [11:41] well [11:42] i'd love to see the new icons [11:42] but motivated... likely not enough to just do it [11:42] :| [11:42] the things that could be improved because prominent are things like "bold, underlined, italic" etc [11:42] yep [11:42] another thing you could write down is the style you are thinking [11:42] or some guidelines [11:42] they don't look totally misplaced though, so not even those are high on my list [11:42] style is elementary, that's all [11:42] should work well with that [11:43] aha ok [11:43] for now it's a copy-paste job [11:43] and even that was enough work [11:43] :) [11:54] bbabl [11:54] hf [13:59] knome: if you feel like working on some real improvements, these would be very much appreciated: http://i.imgur.com/BKFSmzW.png [14:20] yep.. [14:21] yes [14:22] ._. my proffessor cancelled today's class... because his son died on the weekend [14:22] .___________. [14:23] oops i though this was ot [20:04] pleia2, ping [20:58] http://www.piqo.fr/blog/piqo/10101-xubuntu-piqo-edition-telechargeable-en-pre-alpha.html#.VUeTwfntlBc [20:58] ochosi, ^ did you see that already? [20:59] ochosi, my first reaction confirmed by lyʒ - "they can't do that" [21:00] also, making a blanket statement that xubuntu is "GPL"... [21:06] knome: right, i didn't even know about the piqo [21:06] me neither [21:06] well until i bumped into it last week [21:06] it would have been nice of those folks to get in touch with us, for starters [21:06] i can't even remember how [21:25] knome: pong [21:26] pleia2, can you dump sume css to extras.css? [21:26] *some [21:26] sure [21:26] oh wait [21:26] we have a repository [21:26] i'll prepare that [21:32] pleia2, lp:xubuntu-website/static-assets is prepared for you [21:32] :) [21:32] k [21:33] thanks [21:33] knome: docs.x.o going to have translations? [21:33] Unit193, ask pleia2? [21:34] Aha, newer one does then. [21:34] yeah, just 15.04 [21:35] http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/hardware-devices.html#restricted-drivers is that supposed to look like that? [21:35] likely not.. [21:36] knome: new extras.css is installed [21:36] * knome bows [21:36] Unit193, nope, but i can see that's a problem the new dir structure created [21:36] it removed the files the old docs were pointing to [21:36] (filenames changed at some point) [21:36] xubuntu-book.css -> style.css [21:36] Eh, vivid looks fine and has translations, so I'm good. [21:36] I can stash them back, just need to remember [21:37] pleia2, symlinking what i just said should be fine [21:37] in libs/ [21:37] k [21:38] done [21:39] btw, a LO 5.0 release is coming up and will land in wily [21:39] pleia2, great, it even works [21:39] just as a notice for something we might have to look out for [21:39] elfy: ^ [21:39] ochosi, maybe notice it in some blueprint(s) [21:40] ok, added to -dev [21:41] knome: did you add the laptop+desktop drawings to the main site recently? [21:41] so cute! [21:41] +1 [21:41] pleia2, yep [21:42] pleia2, planning on adding more of the same style, glad you like it [21:42] cool [21:42] http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/web_art/xwa-community.png [21:42] looks a bit dude-y [21:43] i've been thinking to add a gal-ey one on the right [21:43] :) [22:14] oooo...Xubuntu, the distro of choice for Guys and Dolls :) [22:38] Better than doodie.. [22:40] * drc looks for the soap....