| pepe233 | Hi | 01:28 |
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| CyborgCygnus | Are maas & juju two completely different things, are they competitors or do you use them together/same time? | 12:28 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: they perform at two different layers in the stack. | 12:32 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: Juju works at "I need an instance" level. It can use EC2, Openstack, Azure and others to fulfil that need. Or it can use MAAS. | 12:32 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: MAAS is a "cloud provider" in the same sense as EC2's "just give me a working instance" by API model. Except that it uses bare metal to get those instances. | 12:33 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: so, MAAS to provision bare metal, and Juju to make use of that in a smart way. Or just use MAAS for bare metal and have something else call the MAAS API directly. Or just use Juju with a different provider. | 12:34 |
| CyborgCygnus | rbasak, okay still confusing but good information, I've been eyeing off all of these ubuntu server, openstack cloud & other affiliated those tools. | 12:42 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: still confusing> maybe I can try again? MAAS is relatively simple to explain. Get freshly installed bare metal machines from a pool of bare metal machines by API. MAAS takes care of managing the machines and provides the API. Does that make sense? | 12:43 |
| CyborgCygnus | rbasak, yeah get that pretty much, does juju use maas to do its thing? I was confused as to whether maas is the essential thing to have an juju just an accessory for web browser based controller for ease | 12:45 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: let me try and explain Juju first. Juju lets you supply a model of the deployment you want in terms of a set of services and how those services are connected to each other. Then it turns that model into reality by deploying instances are required. | 12:47 |
| rbasak | by deploying instances as required. | 12:47 |
| rbasak | Does that make sense? | 12:47 |
| rbasak | That means that Juju needs to somehow deploy instances. | 12:47 |
| rbasak | To do that Juju uses a pluggable architecture of "providers". | 12:47 |
| rbasak | There is a Juju MAAS provider, which you can use to turn your Juju model into reality on bare metal. | 12:48 |
| CyborgCygnus | rbasak, okay yeah a bit more understandable for noob slow me | 12:48 |
| rbasak | There is also a Juju EC2 provider, which you can use to turn the same Juju model into reality on EC2 instead. | 12:48 |
| CyborgCygnus | rbasak, which one do you prefer, EC2 or MAAS? | 12:48 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: depends on where you want your deployment. | 12:49 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: want it on your own physical machines? You'll spend money on those machines, electricity and hardware maintenance but nothing after that. | 12:49 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: or, instead, want Amazon to take care of capital expenditure, electricity and hardware maintenance for you? Then use EC2 instead. | 12:50 |
| CyborgCygnus | rbasak, Oh okay :S , so say at home for some reason I wanted 6 machines in the house to install ubuntu through the one server & have their accounts stored on the server so they can log on from any computer & log into their account | 12:50 |
| rbasak | 6 machines to do what, and what do you mean by account exactly? | 12:51 |
| CyborgCygnus | rbasak, well I remember way back when I was in high school every student had a login that they can put into any school pc & they get access to their files aswell as the operating system. The 6 machines just ubuntu operating system | 12:54 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: so you want 6 machines running Ubuntu desktop with central authentication and a central file server? You can do that with Ubuntu, all the tools are there. But there isn't a turnkey system to provide that - most sysadmins put together a customised deployment manually. | 12:56 |
| CyborgCygnus | rbasak, so what would be an example use of the ubuntu server with openstack, maas & juju? | 12:57 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: a simple example? A web app. | 12:59 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: a complex example is an Openstack deployment itself, though that doesn't generally use Openstack obviously. | 13:00 |
| CyborgCygnus | rbasak, alright thanks, So deploying a web app to where? Or where do you deploy openstack to? As in installing it to another server or computer over the network to ? | 13:04 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: deploying a web app to anywhere that can provide instances. EC2, Azure, an Openstack cloud, or directly on bare metal with no virtualisation with MAAS (though for a basic web app that'd be quite wasteful). | 13:05 |
| rbasak | CyborgCygnus: deploying Openstack is normally to bare metal in a datacentre somewhere in order to run a private cloud - like EC2 but a private one. | 13:05 |
| CyborgCygnus | rbasak, thanks for your help | 13:13 |
| smoser | garibaldi, sorry, i went afk | 13:35 |
| smoser | the 'maas list' shows the accounts that you have set up. | 13:35 |
| smoser | so you did: maas login some-name-here some-url-here some-creds-here | 13:36 |
| smoser | then, from then on out, MYMAASNAME is 'some-name-here' | 13:36 |
| smoser | ie, you have to tell the maas cli which maas end point you're talking to | 13:36 |
| garibaldi | smoser: I commissioned a new node and then after was able to successfully start it with "maas local node start <system_id> distro_series=trusty user_data=$(base64 --wrap=0 /tmp/script.sh)" | 14:10 |
| garibaldi | smoser: /tmp/script.sh contains the bash shebang followed by "echo "test $(whoami)" > /home/ubuntu/test.txt" on a new line; the node successfully installed the OS, but once it was done /home/ubuntu/test.txt did not exist so it seems it didn't run my user_data script | 14:11 |
| garibaldi | smoser: what could be wrong? | 14:11 |
| smoser | htat should work | 14:12 |
| smoser | can you pastebin /var/log/cloud-init.log and /var/log/cloud-init-output.log ? | 14:12 |
| garibaldi | smoser: yes, I'm re-installing the node now but when it finishes I will post them | 14:20 |
| smoser | k. thanks. | 14:25 |
| mup | Bug #1461135 was opened: Can't assign the same IP address to two different MAC addresses <networking> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461135> | 15:24 |
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| drhalan | hey all. is there a way to run a custom script after startup of a node? basically I want to deploy a ssh key so i have root access to the machine. our hardware only has WOL and we need a way to shut them off... | 16:04 |
| smoser | drhalan, you can use user-data | 16:45 |
| drhalan | smoser: what's that exactly? | 16:46 |
| smoser | user-data is the same concept in maas that it is in ec2. | 16:46 |
| smoser | cloud-init runs in maas or ec2 instances and consumes user-data that the user fed it. | 16:47 |
| smoser | what you can do with user-data is described about:blank | 16:47 |
| smoser | err.. | 16:47 |
| smoser | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit | 16:47 |
| smoser | and you can deploy a node with user-data by passing user_data key to maas node start | 16:48 |
| mup | Bug #1461181 was opened: [1.8rc1] Too many open files, after upgrade to rc1 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461181> | 17:45 |
| kiko | hah! | 17:56 |
| garibaldi | smoser: here are my cloud-init.log (http://pastebin.com/vvbbDNDm) and cloud-init-output.log (http://pastebin.com/1h1snXQM) files | 18:25 |
| garibaldi | smoser: the command I used to start the VM (after commissioning it) was maas local node start <system_id> distro_series=trusty user_data=$(base64 --wrap=0 /tmp/script.sh) | 18:25 |
| garibaldi | smoser: where /tmp/script.sh contains the bash shebang followed by "echo "test $(whoami)" > /home/ubuntu/test.txt" on a new line | 18:26 |
| smoser | garibaldi, just for your own sanity, there is a tool called 'pastebinit' that allows use of sane paste bins via: | 18:33 |
| smoser | pastebinit /var/log/cloud-init.log | 18:33 |
| smoser | or pastebinit < /var/log/cloud-init.log | 18:33 |
| drhalan | is there a way to set a comment or something for each machine that for example indicates the location of the machine? | 19:08 |
| smoser | garibaldi, it does seem like you didn't get user_data through though | 19:08 |
| drhalan | we have a tag on each machine that i would like maas to know about | 19:08 |
| smoser | drhalan, you may be able to abuse tags for that. | 19:18 |
| mup | Bug #1461226 was opened: Clicking "Nodes" in 1.8 takes several seconds to load - seems much slower than 1.7.5 <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461226> | 19:21 |
| mup | Bug #1461233 was opened: Node power summary less informative in 1.8 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461233> | 19:21 |
| smoser | drhalan, maas admin tags new name=row35 | 19:25 |
| smoser | maas admin tag update-nodes row35 add=node-260cbb52-094d-11e5-a379-00163ee0d91e | 19:25 |
| smoser | its not a perfect fit. | 19:25 |
| drhalan | maybe i can just maintain a list outside of maas :) | 19:25 |
| drhalan | thanks! | 19:25 |
| mup | Bug #1461236 was opened: Clicking Nodes makes three webfont requests that return 404 in 1.8 UI <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461236> | 19:48 |
| drhalan | i am using the fast installer and get the following error during install. any idea? http://pastebin.com/m5jmmxdG | 19:59 |
| garibaldi | smoser: thanks for the tip about pastebinit; any ideas on why the user_data did not get through for this node? | 20:32 |
| smoser | garibaldi, well... | 20:36 |
| smoser | could you verify that it didn't ? | 20:36 |
| smoser | can you verify taht /var/lib/cloud/instance/user-data.txt has nothing in it ? | 20:37 |
| smoser | and also.. what version of maas are you using ? | 20:37 |
| smoser | if user-data were completely busted, then we'd know. as juju uses it when pointed at maas. | 20:37 |
| smoser | and that gets tested heavily | 20:37 |
| smoser | but if the maas cli was busted, probably would'nt know so fast, but would still seem odd. | 20:38 |
| drhalan | can somebody explain me what maas actually does when acquiring a node? it seems to reboot during the process | 20:39 |
| drhalan | i could ssh into my machine and my updated curtin script seemed to have deployed the ssh keys and packages I needed. suddenly it rebooted and everything was gone | 20:40 |
| garibaldi | smoser: confirmed, the test file I tried to create as part of the script is not there; and /var/lib/cloud/instance/user-data.txt is empty | 20:42 |
| garibaldi | is there a debug mode I can enable? | 20:42 |
| mup | Bug #1461256 was opened: 1.8rc1: Filter by node broken in Chromium - angular errors in java script console <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461256> | 20:42 |
| mup | Bug #1461258 was opened: 1.8rc1: Deploy/Release in single node view keeps adding blank pages at the top <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461258> | 20:42 |
| smoser | drhalan, yeah, thats sort of a bug | 20:43 |
| drhalan | what do you mean ? | 20:43 |
| smoser | the ephemeral environment that maas uses to run curtin in also gets your user's keys | 20:43 |
| smoser | so you can ssh into the install enviornment as 'ubuntu@' | 20:43 |
| drhalan | oh yeah | 20:43 |
| smoser | and not realize that you're in iscsi root | 20:43 |
| smoser | the sanest fix seems to be to just have the user in the ephemeral root environment be 'ephemeral' or 'admin' or something. | 20:44 |
| smoser | then you wouldnt think you were in | 20:44 |
| drhalan | that makes sense. but i sitll dont understand which file i have to modify to change the final install. i tried /etc/maas/preseed/curtin and /etc/maas/preseed/curtin_userdata | 20:45 |
| smoser | garibaldi, what versoin of maas ? | 20:45 |
| drhalan | the first one only seems to affect the install and the second one has no effect for me | 20:46 |
| drhalan | there is also curtin_userdata_custom which i am not sure what it is for | 20:46 |
| smoser | /etc/maas/preseed/curtin_userdata is the right file. | 20:46 |
| smoser | what i'd suggest is running 'curtin in-target' in a late_command | 20:47 |
| smoser | as the easiest way to affect the install | 20:47 |
| garibaldi | smoser: MAAS 1.6 (the version available in trusty); I didn't know that I needed to modify curtin_userdata, I thought I just needed to pass the user_data bundle along with the "maas" cli command? | 21:02 |
| garibaldi | I tried putting this under late_commands in curtin_userdata but it also did not work: " enable_test: ['sh', '-c', 'echo "this is a test" > /home/ubuntu/test.txt']" | 21:03 |
| smoser | garibaldi, you're right | 21:08 |
| smoser | the user_data comment was for drhalan | 21:08 |
| garibaldi | smoser: ah, okay | 21:11 |
| drhalan | smoser: thanks! is there a document that explains the syntax that curtain expects? | 21:12 |
| smoser | not really. drhalan :-( | 21:13 |
| drhalan | :/ | 21:13 |
| drhalan | i just want to define packages to be installed | 21:13 |
| smoser | drhalan, well, personally i'd do that in user-data | 21:13 |
| drhalan | oh that is something else? | 21:14 |
| smoser | when you deploy a node, you can say "use this user-data". | 21:14 |
| smoser | which can be anything... and then cloud-init interprets it on boot | 21:14 |
| smoser | same way it does on EC2 or on azure | 21:14 |
| smoser | except for garibaldi is having trouble getting user-data to work :) | 21:14 |
| smoser | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit <-- that describes cloud-init user-data | 21:15 |
| drhalan | oh but i need it for every node | 21:15 |
| smoser | well, you can do it every time you deploy a node. | 21:15 |
| smoser | i do understand the desire for central place. | 21:15 |
| smoser | i have to run. | 21:15 |
| mup | Bug #1461295 was opened: Maas is not picking up new release root-tgz automatically <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461295> | 22:00 |
| mup | Bug #1461298 was opened: maas documentation should document how to configure manual DHCP for UEFI <doc> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461298> | 22:00 |
| catbus1 | hi, the maas was working fine, until now it says the only cluster I have is disconnected. I don't see anything suggesting errors from /var/log/maas/maas.log to check, I have dhcp-reconfigured maas-region and cluster-controller, but that didn't help. | 22:40 |
| catbus1 | any ideas where I can look at to find out why it's disconnected? | 22:40 |
| catbus1 | both region and cluster are on the same server. | 22:41 |
| catbus1 | an error keeps repeating: twisted.internet.error.CannotlistenError | 22:43 |
| catbus1 | on pserv.log | 22:43 |
| catbus1 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1374233 | 22:47 |
| mup | Bug #1374233 was opened: pserv continually failing: address already in use <packaging> <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374233> | 23:10 |
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