=== aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [01:12] will there a way to add commands to the terminal ? [01:15] *be a way === aaron is now known as Guest57402 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === salem_ is now known as _salem [06:40] good morning [08:20] rpadovani: in your bazaar workflow, do you know how to create a new branch based on another branch? kinda like "bzr branch lp:~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/branch1 branch2" [08:20] rpadovani: that's the only thing I seem to be missing [08:25] nik90, bzr branch lp:~rpadovani/webbrowser-app/remove-404-history ../bzr-repo/another-branch-name. Indeed I didn't write an alias for that [08:26] rpadovani: true but that is for a remote branch..what about a local branch? [08:27] i did a light-checkout of trunk...created a local branch1...now i want to branch from that instead of trunk [08:27] nik90, cp -r ../bzr-repo/whatever ../bzr-repo/new-branch maybe? Dunno, I need to check documentation [08:28] nik90, maybe bzr switch branch1 && bzr branch . ../bzr-repo/newbranch === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [09:10] nik90: rpadovani either of you know why this errors when building a deb? seen it before? https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot-match-click-debian-version-numbers/+merge/260780 [09:35] looking at it now [09:52] hi, i want an email to contact someone regards application review [10:00] hi, i want an email to contact someone regards application reviewing [10:07] Silentlord: what kind of application? [10:07] that i have uploaded to the market [10:07] ok, which app? [10:09] 2X Client [10:10] ok, what's up? [10:11] Silentlord: i see your response, 19 hours ago. [10:11] Silentlord: beuno is responsible for the store. If he's around, he can respond. [10:12] ok thanks, so what can we do [10:15] wait for beuno [10:15] ok thanks for the help [10:16] np [10:16] can anyone who knows a bit of JavaScript review https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/1456929/+merge/260920 please? [10:16] it'd be great if we could fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/help-app/+bug/1456929 [10:16] Launchpad bug 1456929 in Ubuntu Help App "Translations don't show up on the phone" [High,In progress] [10:49] dholbach: that seems a bit questionable. if you strip the country, what happens to different language flavors? [10:50] maybe what you want is try to load the country-only code as a fallback if you already have an error? [10:53] dholbach: also it looks like you'll want to set langCode, not language, in ajax(), to achieve the fallback [10:53] thanks kalikiana - looking into it === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [11:08] kalikiana, better now? :) [11:10] nik90: great stuff with the challenge :) [11:11] nik90: and promoting Timer ;) [11:11] dholbach: looking very good now! [11:14] mivoligo: thnx ;) [11:18] thanks kalikiana [11:20] nik90: speaking about Timer, someone said in the review he doesn't like the haptic feedback :) [11:22] nik90: do you know if there's a bug report about disabling haptics in system settings don't really work? [11:23] is there a way to have an app be deployed as binary rather than launched through qmlscene? I want to deploy an existing Qt app for android, ios etc (that uses qrc and no own qml plugins, just builtin reigsterd types) on ubuntu phone. but in all the examples I only find Exec=qmlscene foo [11:26] kbroulik: I'm not sure but I think "Qt3D cylinder" doesn't use qmlscene [11:27] mivoligo: is its code available somewhere? [11:27] https://github.com/Sturmflut/ubuntu-touch-qt3d-cylinder [11:27] thanks! [11:27] indeed it doesnt use qmlscene [11:27] thanks, will investigate :) [11:28] I think it's the fastest starting app on Ubuntu phone :) [11:28] neverball is pretty quick [11:29] hm it's using cmake === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:30] kbroulik: take a look at the "QtQuick app with QML UI (qmake)" template in QtCreator. That uses a binary rather than qmlscene [11:30] oh, I only looked at the QML App with c++ plugin, thanks [11:32] :-) np. [11:36] DanChapman: it works \o/ however it doesnt have QtQuick Controls (I already expected that) so it's a step in the right direction :) [11:36] is there a way in the .pro file to check whether it's ubuntu? like android: { foo } ? [11:36] or do I need to add a custom CONFIG ? [11:39] kbroulik: i have no idea. I have yet to start an ubuntu project using the qmake templates. bzoltan or zbenjamin would be the best ones to ask about it [11:45] good thing I have my own abstraction layer ontop of QQC, so I can easily swap out those by the ubuntu components. thanks DanChapman and mivoligo! :) [11:47] kbroulik: \o/ [11:47] kbroulik: what's the app about BTW? [11:48] can't talk about that atm, it's just evaluating whether it would be feasible and if so, how easily, to port the app to ubuntu phone :) [11:48] ah, ok :) [11:49] well good luck kbroulik, feel free to stick around or drop by whenever you have any more questions [11:49] sure, you've been really supportive :) [11:50] yes, the animals don't bite round here that often [11:57] mivoligo: there is a settings option to disable haptics? [11:57] how do I uninstall an app deployed through qt creator? Longpress on the app doesnt show an Uninstall option in contrast to eg. the calculator [11:58] nik90: yes, in Sound at the very bottom [12:01] mivoligo: hmm true..I just noticed that now. I dont remember seeing a bug report about it [12:02] kalikiana, zsombi: Is the haptics feedback used by Abstract Button and other SDK components connected to the universal system settings option "Enabled other vibrations" [12:03] kbroulik: interesting, I think it puts the app in your home directory on the device... bzoltan zbenjamin is there an easy way to wipe out installed apps via qtc? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [12:04] popey: if its deployed by pressing "Run" you press "Stop" and it will be uninstalled. If you used the Publish page you should be able to uninstall it from the UI [12:04] popey: other than that there is no way [12:04] popey: from the phone UI i mean [12:04] publish makes a click, right? [12:04] yes [12:04] we only do click installing [12:04] kbroulik: if you "phablet-shell" or "adb shell" into the device "click list | grep foo" should list your app (replace foo) [12:05] kbroulik: and if it does, "sudo click unregister foo x.y" where foo is your app, and x.y is the version [12:05] kalikiana: popey: sometimes you need to pull down app scope to refresh and then the app icon just disappears [12:05] true [12:05] Silentlord, hi. What's up? [12:06] popey: interesting. I checked the "uninstall when finished", and it also says "app exited, cleaning up", but it still shows up on the app menu. click list doesnt show it [12:06] pull down to refresh click scope? [12:06] ah xD there you go [12:06] woot [12:06] now it's gone from the list :) [12:06] It's almost like we know what we're doing [12:08] how would I debug the app startup failure? "application started: 31269, qml debugging is enabled, use only in safe environment" "Received a failed event, app exited, cleaning up". using the "run debugging" in qtcreator says "debugging failed" [12:08] we have an application that have been for review for 1 month 2 weeks [12:08] kbroulik: look in ~/.cache/upstart on the device, also look for apparmor denials with "sudo dmesg | grep DEN" [12:09] [ 910.415004] type=1400 audit(1433333316.922:101): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="amsnews.username_app_0.1" name="/home/phablet/.local/share/" pid=5906 comm="qtc_device_debu" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=32011 [12:09] I do deploy an app.apparmor file though and it also worked 10 minutes ago [12:10] hm [12:10] ah, you won't be able to access /home/phablet/.local/share/ [12:10] apps are confined. [12:10] so they can't stomp all over eachothers data [12:14] also note that apparmor profiles for sideloaded apps only get updated on version bumps [12:14] if you change any apparmor stuff and dont bump the app version the change will not be effective [12:14] ooh, good call [12:14] there's a command to force that though [12:14] yeah [12:14] which I always forget [12:14] aa-clickhook -f ? [12:15] (dont ask me which :P ) [12:15] yeah, with the right path though ... [12:15] else it re-generates the world [12:15] k [12:15] but I dont see who would access .local/share :/ [12:15] nik90: zsombi yes, it is since a while [12:16] why do you ask? [12:22] hm, now I'm getting undefined symbol: _ZN11QJsonObject10initializeEv :( [12:22] :S [12:29] popey: seems because I'm using initializer_list with QJsonObject and for some reason it compiles but then doesnt run :/ what Qt version is ubuntu phone running? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:30] This function was introduced in Qt 5.4. ← that could explain [12:30] erk [12:30] my phone has 5.4 :) [12:30] how do I find out? [12:31] what phone is it? [12:31] the retail bq ones ship with 5.4 [12:31] er, 5.3 sorry [12:31] but there's an OTA update coming next week which look like it has 5.4 [12:31] dpkg -l libqt* [12:32] ah, I'm running 14.10 on the emulator (because I failed to install 15.04) [12:32] ah [12:32] yeah, 5.3 then [12:32] will try to install "devel" again [12:33] that install script is pretty buggy though, assumes that group = user whicih isn't the case for me [12:33] anyway, lunch, totally forgot time :) [12:33] :) === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:54] popey, can we release another new help app later on? [12:54] sure can [12:54] awesome [12:59] ok, I failed to install devel again but devel-proposed seems to work [13:11] with the devel emulator it starts up but the ide still says "the device is currently booting" [13:15] ah, dev mode wasnt enabled on that image for some reason [13:17] popey, do you think you could upload http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/help.ubuntucoredev_0.4_all.click at some stage - maybe with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11542725/ as changelog? [13:21] sure thing dholbach [13:22] thanks a lot popey! [13:22] np [13:32] and there runs the app! :) [13:34] thanks a bunch popey! :) [13:35] ewww the scrollbars don't match between sdk and oxide http://i.imgur.com/2KmSzeI.png [13:35] * DanChapman looks for a bug [13:38] dholbach: np :) [13:38] kbroulik: yay! [13:38] the scaling is a bit off (I use qscreen primaryscreen dpi thing), pagestack api is different from stackview, and flickable sucks :) other than that, working nicely [13:57] bah, once more wasted an hour due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1427264 [13:57] Launchpad bug 1427264 in schroot (Ubuntu) "using ecryptfs, creating frameworks fail to bind mount issues" [High,In progress] === karni is now known as karni-hols [14:19] balloons, thanks a lot for your work on the functional tests! it's finally landed. :) [14:29] dholbach, :-) I was working with psvenan yesterday who finally got things working.. fingers crossed he'll add some real test! [14:30] nice! [14:39] where can my app write to? I used QStandardPaths CacheLocation but apparently it cannot write there either [15:03] davidcalle, popey, mhall119, balloons: team call= [15:03] ? [15:03] dholbach, omw [15:04] yo === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [15:38] * kalikiana finds himself now listening to console stereo playing in the background, a friend of his had found one on the street and got it to work by cleaning it thoroughly === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [15:54] dholbach, http://imgur.com/EI0xe0T New icon design? [15:55] do you think H is obvious enough for help? [15:57] dholbach, I would say so. I considered using a question mark but looking at normal help signs in real life they are often the word "Help" or "H" itself. [15:58] What do you think would be better? [15:58] mh, ok....... I'm not sure - maybe you could folks to have a look at the two, so we can get more data? :) [15:59] dholbach, Sure, I will make up a few different designs and I will let you know. [15:59] brilliant - thanks a lot! [16:00] No problem [16:25] DS-McGuire: googling for "help icon" brings various incarnations of (?) rather than (H) (which makes me think of hospitals and helicopters :) [16:30] popey, I don't know how I got Help as in the word. I am using DDG. [16:30] Would you rather "?" ? [16:46] popey, Here is something better: http://imgur.com/8lEtw36 [16:53] kalikiana, zsombi: Do you guys know how to detect if a listview is in multi-select mode? [16:53] zsombi: In the listdelegate, I do that using ListView.view.ViewItems.selectMode [16:56] nvr mind I figured it out [17:16] mivoligo, ping === _salem is now known as salem_ [17:20] ahayzen: ping [17:20] nik90, pong [17:20] ahayzen: hey I am trying to use the sdk's multiselection mode..and I have got almost everything working except for one small thing.. [17:21] you'll be wanting to hijack this code? https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/refactor-use-sdk-listitems [17:21] I need to provide a header button to "Select All" and "Select None" which should mark the listitems's selected property to true [17:21] yup [17:22] not sure how to access a listitem's selected property from a header property [17:22] that is in our app/components/HeadState/MultiSelectHeadState.qml [17:22] ah [17:22] * nik90 looks [17:23] but note that basically i ported our implementation of reorder/multiselect/swipe actions over directly so some things can still probably be tidied up now [17:24] nik90, do you have something similar to this as well? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/refactor-use-sdk-listitems/view/head:/app/components/Flickables/MultiSelectListView.qml [17:24] ahayzen: ack..btw where do you define functions like listview.selectAll() ? [17:24] ^^ [17:24] in the MultiSelectListView :-) [17:24] ah yes just realized after clicking the link :P [17:24] hehe [17:25] should be abstract enough for you to hijack if required ;-) [17:26] I am going to just add it straight into AlarmListView instead of a standardized component since I use it in only one place..but this is really helpful [17:26] thnx [17:26] a lot ;) [17:26] no problem [17:26] now we wait for OTA4 so we can start landing this stuff! [17:26] ...and for jenkins to play ball... [17:26] well more up to jenkins I would say [17:26] I heard that the jenkins move to vivid is not gonna be easy [17:26] apparently not [17:27] also I cant seem to figure out how to fix my clock ap tests despite looking at your MP :P [17:27] meanwhile what happened here... https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/ubuntu-weather-app/weather-updated-icon/+merge/259762 [17:28] ahayzen: hmm this is the normal weather app and not reboot..does tests pass in trunk locally? [17:28] nik90, yeah its the normal one, and the tests aren't failing its the deb part look http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic-weather-app/116/console [17:28] hmm dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to weather-app@30.png: binary file contents changed [17:29] dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b ubuntu-weather-app-1.8.3ubuntu1 gave error exit status 1 [17:29] debuild: fatal error at line 1364: [17:29] lots of words saying fatal/failed/error lol [17:29] its been a while since I play with debian packaging..hard to say without taking a deeper look [17:29] although are we still building debian packages and distributing it via a PPA? [17:30] popey or balloons any idea what has happened here? http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic-weather-app/116/console for https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/ubuntu-weather-app/weather-updated-icon/+merge/259762 [17:30] i think so, haven't played with the PPA for a while though [17:47] popey, another one: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/store-local-resources-in-infofile/+merge/260990 [17:50] ahayzen: is it possible to adjust the left margin of the checkbox shown in multiselect mode? It is missing 1 gu left margin for me [17:50] i think so [17:50] oh or maybe not...i did this ages ago... [17:50] let me have a look [17:51] there is a property in listitems called contentItem whose margins I could change..but that would affect only the contents of the listitem..not sure if it also touches the checkbox margins..I will give that a shot [17:52] what happens if you put a margin on the ListItem {} ? [17:53] ahayzen: that would work, but when the user presses it the highlight color would not extend all the way to the edge of the screen [17:54] really ugh :-/ [17:54] that is something that I actually wanted to propose for weather reboot as well [17:54] what the highlight colour? [17:54] the listitem contents should be anchored and not the listitem itself to avoid this issue [17:55] the highlight color is a 20% darker shade of the background color I think [17:55] yeah or 20% lighter for music http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/refactor-use-sdk-listitems/view/head:/app/components/Delegates/MusicListItem.qml#L26 [17:55] dark theme ftw [17:55] https://imgur.com/NQhrbcJ [17:56] indeed [17:56] eww what happened to the header action text? [17:56] it is overlapping when the translated text is long [17:56] and that checkbox looks good how did you do that? [17:56] the checkbox on the left? [17:57] yeah [17:57] standard 15.04 selection mode stuff..didnt do anything extra [17:57] oh i thought you were saying about the margins being wrong? [17:57] yeah I was referring to the left margin of that checkbox..It need to align with the header back arrow [17:58] well atleast that's what it is in the current clock app in the store [17:58] oh right i get you now [17:58] btw are you using the sdk's selection header mode? or a custom one? [17:58] just wondering if the text overlap issue is present in the sdk implementation [17:59] erm [17:59] i assume the SDK one? we use PageHeadState [18:00] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/music-app/refactor-use-sdk-listitems/view/head:/app/components/HeadState/MultiSelectHeadState.qml [18:00] oh or is there an SDK PageHeadState for selection mode already? [18:00] yup seems like it is the sdk implementation [18:00] well the only difference is that in selection mode, the text is also shown in the header actions [18:01] but this was not there before and so I implemented a custom solution for clock [18:01] oh yeah we don't show the text [18:01] was that by design? [18:03] erm ... maybe? [18:03] i think it was tbh all the screenshots we had only had the icon [18:04] ack. [18:05] nik90: I was recently advised by design to drop the text for multi-select actions in dekko. [18:05] DanChapman: ah ok..I will make that change in the clock app as well then [18:17] mivoligo: man icons.mivoligo.com is so useful.. does it automatically update when new icons are added to the package? [18:30] DanChapman: Do you remember the page title when in multi-selection mode? Do we set it blank or anything special? === aaron is now known as ahoneybun [18:35] * ahoneybun reads this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/You-Can-Now-Install-and-Test-Unity-8-and-Mir-in-Any-Supported-Ubuntu-OS-483206.shtml [18:44] Does anyone know what commands are allowed within a BASH script in a .click package with default apparmor profile. I'm getting "Permission denied" errors with all kinds of useful commands like find, sed etc [18:45] It is hugely frustrating and does not add anything to security [18:46] currently for click you don't have access to those commands. The reason isn't for security but because shell isn't a supported programming environment on touch [18:47] those are defined by the click frameworks [18:47] jdstrand: that's a bit of a pain, tbh [18:48] currently, if you need them, you can bundle them with your app [18:49] I'll do that. Any possibility the restriction will be relaxed in the future? [18:51] mcphail: I'm not sure, tbh (I didn't make that decision), but the general idea is that developers should target the framework rather than the OS, since the OS may change and break you [18:52] The OS is going to be unrecognisable if "sed" isn't available... [18:52] I can say there is work being done to make bundling a lot easier [18:54] well, sure, but what version of sed? perhaps there is a behavioral change or something subtle. there is no testing or guarantees if you stray outside of the frameworks [18:54] jdstrand: anyone who uses sed is used to such things :) [18:54] heh [18:54] jdstrand: I'll link in binutils-static just now [18:56] cheers [18:57] mzanetti: pong [18:57] nik90: no, it does not update [18:58] nik90: AFAIK we should hide the title for multi-select. Just checked address-book-app and that also hides it [19:05] mivoligo, hey. so. Is the level pack good to go? [19:05] ahayzen: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11548436/ [19:05] hey mivoligo and DanChapman [19:05] mzanetti: I thinks so, yes [19:06] ahoneybun: hi o/ [19:06] mivoligo, gonna make a release now, ok? [19:06] ahoneybun, what about it? lol ... i assume you mean you made it? hehe [19:06] ahayzen: it works like that [19:06] jus tneed to work on the UI [19:07] mzanetti: sure, we can fix things later :D [19:07] \o/ [19:07] ahayzen: could I replace the TextFields that are holding the scores with Label's [19:07] mivoligo, merged the level pack. future changes please as merge request against lp:machines-vs-machines/levelpacks [19:07] ? [19:07] mivoligo, I fixed all the open bugs in the bugtracker [19:07] mzanetti: awesome! [19:08] mzanetti: and even those not reported :D [19:08] hey ahoneybun [19:08] ahoneybun, yeah no reason not to, assuming you only want them to be read only [19:08] I would like that [19:08] I dont want the user to use the keyboard anyway [19:15] mivoligo, check for updates :) [19:16] ahayzen: you can't click Labels to change focus lol [19:17] mzanetti: 33.6 MiB, what size was before? [19:19] ahoneybun, you might need to give them a height/width or something for the onClicked to work? is that what your saying isn't working? [19:19] wait [19:20] mzanetti: I have a black screen, when clicking on the first level [19:20] ahayzen: no with the textfield you click the one you want edit but that will not work with labels since they are readonly [19:20] yeah it won't [19:21] mzanetti: same with MvsM :( but music is still playing [19:21] unless I put a button under each one to switch the focus [19:21] well you can still click on it? [19:21] and take the onClicked then like change the colour or something? [19:21] onClicked: {parent.parent.focused = this; }? [19:22] erm idk what you did with the rest of your code in the end? [19:22] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/gazeteer/trunk/view/head:/components/Board.qml [19:22] this the current working model [19:22] with TextFields [19:23] yeah so what you said and change property TextField focused: score1 to property Label focused: score1 [19:23] got that part :) [19:23] thebuttons would not work without that change [19:24] to add the score [19:24] ...so does it work now? [19:24] don;t know [19:24] I have to add the switch button and have 2 labels to switch between [19:24] doing that now [19:30] ahayzen: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11548932/ [19:30] current code with labels [19:30] Error: Cannot assign QObject* to Label_QMLTYPE_32* [19:30] happens when I click on the edit button [19:31] ahoneybun, your parent.parent.focused = this; is inside a *Button* and the type is a *Label* ? [19:33] onClicked: {Label.focused = this; }? [19:40] ahoneybun, parent.parent.focused = score1 ... or change it to type Button and do this [19:40] 'this' [19:40] tbh ahayzen I'm going to drop this idea since it adds all those buttons [19:40] much easier with textfields [19:40] for users and me lol [19:41] cool [19:44] thanks ahayzen [19:44] no problem as usual :-) [19:45] no problem to say it anyway [19:45] hehe [20:40] mzanetti: can you reproduce the issue or is it something with my phone? [20:52] * ahoneybun is going to try to make a Scope [20:56] mivoligo, reproduce what? [20:57] mhall119: I think their should be a Steam Scope [20:57] for checking prices and sales [20:58] lots of data [20:59] mivoligo, hmm... something odd with the tutorial [20:59] but only on RTM [20:59] that will teach me releasing stuff for RTM still :D [20:59] * ahoneybun is working with -devel [21:03] mzanetti: when I select a level and click Play, I got black screen [21:04] mzanetti: or rather very very dark blue :) [21:05] mivoligo, fixed [21:06] mzanetti: updating [21:08] my internet connection is sloooooowwww [21:11] mzanetti: it's working, thanks :) [21:11] ok [21:18] mzanetti: BTW mhall119 said if an update is for 15.04, people who use 14.10 don't get the update. But IIRC there was a problem with Tagger update because of that, right? [21:18] mivoligo, the problem is that the old version will disappear for 14.10 users [21:19] mzanetti: but only from the store, not from their phones? [21:20] yes... [21:20] ok :) [21:27] mzanetti: one more question I wanted to ask you about your Stopwatch code: what's the magic of using "45" interval in refreshTimer? Why 45? [21:28] I'll be back later [21:28] mhall119: or anyone who can make a scope I'm thinking of making one for the New York Times (I have a key and it uses JSON data) [21:32] mivoligo, haha :D [21:32] mivoligo, that seemed like a nive value [21:33] mivoligo, nah, the reason is that I tried with 50, and it had the effect that the last digit on the milliseconds rarely changed [21:33] so I took something that makes it flicker :D [21:34] mzanetti: heh, I was thinking maybe it has something to do with phone screen refresh rate or something :P [21:35] anyway I can now sleep relaxed :D === salem_ is now known as _salem [22:10] * ahoneybun starts to install Ubuntu SDK on his other laptop [23:01] nik90: ping [23:01] zsombi: pong [23:02] nik90: you asked about how to detect a ListItem whether is in selectMode [23:02] nik90: ListItem.selectMode :) [23:02] zsombi: yeah I figured it out [23:02] zsombi: I am using alarmListView.ViewItems.selectMode [23:03] not sure why the ViewItems stuff is needed..still wraping my head around that [23:03] nik90: that is to control the selected indices and the drtag mode [23:04] zsombi: I have a PageHeadState that gets activated when alarmListView.ViewItems.selectMode is true .. I use that to detect if the alarmListView is in multiselect mode or not [23:04] nik90: in a ListItem you can turn on/interrogate the selectMode as well as the dragMode [23:04] zsombi: yeah..I am turning it on by selectMode = true .. [23:04] nik90: yes, but you asked in ListItem... [23:05] i was surprised how similar it was to our custom implementation in the music-app, great minds think alike hehe :-) [23:05] nik90: ah, sorry, listview [23:05] ahayzen: ;) [23:05] zsombi: the reason I missed out on that was because the "selectMode" property was defined in the ListItem documentation but not in the ViewItems page where all the reorder and multiselect mode stuff are explained [23:06] nik90: huh? [23:06] nik90: you say the ViewItems.selectMode doc is missing? [23:06] actually nvr mind..I think I was confused since I see that property now in the ViewItems doc [23:07] so there is a selectMode property for both the ListItem and ListView..I understand it better now [23:08] nik90: yes, also teh dragMode [23:08] nik90: originally the ListItem ones were R/O, but we changed them to RW [23:08] nik90: btw, faenil is gonna make some templates for ListItem, with different layouts [23:09] zsombi: oh..thnk god you read my mind with that change [23:09] nik90: ;) [23:09] zsombi: at the moment, clock app is using the old deprecated listitem just for the ListItem.Expandable usecase..everythign else has been migrated and waiting for AP tests fixes and review [23:10] nik90: yeah... unfortunately that will (hopefully) come to 1.3 [23:10] zsombi: ok..just dont remove the old listitems until that is done..otherwise I will be in trouble :) [23:10] nik90: nono :) [23:11] (twice negation means affirmation) :D [23:11] haha [23:11] lol