[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[07:09] <MooDoo> morning
[07:15] <silverlion> morning MooDoo
[07:33] <davidcalle> Morning o/
[07:35] <silverlion> good morning davidcalle
[07:39] <popey> yo
[07:42] <silverlion> aloha popey
[09:26]  * popey pops to the shop, back in a bit
[09:56] <Silentlord> hi, i want an email to contact someone regards application review
[10:05] <popey> Silentlord: what kind of application?
[11:18] <danialbehzadi> hey all
[11:18] <danialbehzadi> Is here where I can ask about ubuntu membership stuffs?
[11:20] <dholbach> salaam danialbehzadi :)
[11:20] <dholbach> yes you can
[11:20] <danialbehzadi> dholbach: salam (:
[11:21] <danialbehzadi> I read about the Certificates For Ubuntu Members  last year and I filled this form: https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/
[11:21] <danialbehzadi> But nothing happend till now
[11:21] <danialbehzadi> Is it still available?
[11:21] <dholbach> danialbehzadi, ok... no worries - I'll send a mail to Michelle and you and we can find out what happened
[11:21] <dholbach> yes, it is
[11:21] <dholbach> I guess something went wrong along the way - we'll find out
[11:22] <danialbehzadi> dholbach: thanks a lot daniel, mamnoon (:
[11:23] <dholbach> danialbehzadi, khahesh mikonam
[14:34] <davidcalle> mhall119, it looks like all subpages of https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/qml/tutorials/ are broken. Any idea what's going on?
[14:35] <davidcalle> mhall119, bug reports have started popping up yesterday, pages themselves look fine in draft mode and are published
[14:35]  * davidcalle tries to unpublish/publish back
[14:36] <mhall119> davidcalle: let me look
[14:37]  * davidcalle nope, still nothing
[14:38] <mhall119> davidcalle: nothing seems wrong...
[14:42] <mhall119> even copying a page, the copy breaks...
[14:43] <davidcalle> mhall119, any way we could pull the data and put it on an instance with debug mode enabled?
[14:44] <mhall119> possibly
[14:49] <mhall119> davidcalle: I've asked for a copy of the error logs, that might show us something
[14:49] <mhall119> if not, I'll have them create a data dump for us
[14:49] <davidcalle> ok
[15:01] <davidcalle> mhall119, I'm also running a link checker on api/* there seems to be a few doc issues (dead links in doc from branches) and some urls  automatically cropped in the middle in the components overview page
[15:05] <mhall119> davidcalle: can you provide me a list?
[15:09] <davidcalle> mhall119, as soon as the link checker is done, yes (it takes a very long time)
[15:09] <davidcalle> (behind a vpn)
[16:00] <jono> hey all
[16:01] <jono> mhall119, hey, is dpm away?
[16:03] <popey> jono: yes
[16:03] <jono> ahhh
[16:03] <jono> np
[16:03] <popey> vacation till next week
[16:03] <jono> cool
[16:14] <davidcalle> mhall119, I need to drive home, I'll run it again from there and should be able to send you something this evening (it has currently checked 200 000+ links on the developer.ubuntu.com domain, as you can imagine, it will take an awful time...)
[16:16]  * dholbach calls it a day - see you all tomorrow!
[16:16] <mhall119> davidcalle: good news! those pages fail locally
[16:16] <davidcalle> Hah, we need tests! *cough*
[16:17] <mhall119> we really do, yes
[16:17] <mhall119> davidcalle: it looks like either a template code bug, or a page setting gone wrong
[16:17] <mhall119> but it's definitely somewhere in the menu
[16:18] <mhall119> strange that it doesn'f fail in draft mode though
[16:19] <davidcalle> mhall119, well, draft is clearly special, for ex. link plugins copied between different text plugins work in draft mode and fail on live (you have to re-do link plugins if you move them around)
[16:20]  * davidcalle drives away, ttyl
[17:23] <mhall119> tutorials pages are "fixed" for now
[17:24] <mhall119> one bug down, I'll continue working on yours balloons, after lunch
[17:25] <balloons> :-)
[18:38] <davidcalle> mhall119, so if I understand correctly, sibling.get_slug only checks for current language?
[18:41] <davidcalle> mhall119, which means, a chinese only page with slug, won't return anything from an english page query, right?
[18:46] <mhall119> davidcalle: correct
[18:47] <mhall119> it was the only way I found to check "does this sibling page exist in the current language"
[18:47] <mhall119> unfortuntely that doesn't verify that it's published
[18:47] <davidcalle> mhall119, yay, was there an explicit error message or just trial and error to find it out?
[18:47] <mhall119> there wasn't any way to do that from within the template, that I could find anyway
[18:48] <mhall119> davidcalle: it was explicitly erroring on the |default:sibling.get_absolute_url
[18:48] <mhall119> so I used pdb to trace what was happening from there, and it was looking for a Title object in current language for the sibling page, and if it didn't find it an exception was thrown
[18:49] <mhall119> while get_slug does mostly the same things, but if it doesn't find a Title it handles it gracefully by simply returning an empty string
[18:50] <mhall119> davidcalle: also, I temporarily fixed production by creating Title objects for the two chinese-only pages, but they have empty content on them in english
[18:50] <davidcalle> mhall119, nice found :)
[18:51] <mhall119> thanks, once I'm done with nick's stuff I'm going to see if there an newer upstream django-cms that might fix this properly
[23:23] <m8ty> Evening all
[23:24] <m8ty> Can i pick your brians with an issue am having with my HD webcam please?
[23:28] <m8ty> when i start it it works for a a very short while then stops  .  Xorg.0.log shows the error as though webcam is added as keyboard
[23:28] <m8ty> am not going to use pastebin as there are only 4 lines logged
[23:29] <m8ty> well more 7 actually
[23:30] <m8ty> [730782.677] (**) TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: always reports core events
[23:30] <m8ty> [730782.677] (**) evdev: TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: Device: "/dev/input/event11"
[23:30] <m8ty> [730782.677] (--) evdev: TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: Vendor 0x4f2 Product 0xb326
[23:30] <m8ty> [730782.677] (--) evdev: TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: Found keys
[23:30] <m8ty> [730782.677] (II) evdev: TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: Configuring as keyboard
[23:30] <m8ty> [730782.677] (**) Option "config_info" "udev:/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.3/3-1.3:1.0/input/input24/event11"
[23:30] <m8ty> [730782.677] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD" (type: KEYBOARD, id 13)
[23:30] <m8ty> any ideas to fix this is much appreciated
[23:39] <pleia2> m8ty: you want to ask in #ubuntu or on askubuntu.com, this channel is for community organizing :)
[23:40] <m8ty> Alright, no worries.  cheers anyway
[23:41] <pleia2> good luck
[23:41] <m8ty> thanks. see ya