[00:04] <RAOF> bschaefer: Well, that looks like protobuf being unnecessarily hateful.
[00:04] <RAOF> Do you at any point dlclose anything? :)
[00:14] <bschaefer> RAOF, yeah when we UnLoad the object
[00:15] <bschaefer> RAOF, hmm i wonder if its failing then does a Unload then gives me a nothing stack trace
[00:16] <RAOF> So, I'm not entirely sure how nicely protobuf is going to play with load/unload cycles.
[00:16] <bschaefer> RAOF, o...
[00:16] <bschaefer> hmm
[00:16]  * bschaefer tests if its right before the unload
[00:17] <bschaefer> RAOF, the thing is, im getting the stack trace on a DLOpen
[00:17] <bschaefer> soo it never actually hits the UnLoad
[00:17] <RAOF> Has it previously done an unload, though?
[00:19] <bschaefer> RAOF, not that i saw (had print statements)
[00:19] <bschaefer> RAOF, yeah no unload
[00:19] <RAOF> Ok, so it's probably not a ‘the second time you load protobuf it explodes’ problem.
[00:20] <bschaefer> RAOF, naw, i actually have an example of that working :)
[10:11] <popey> Does anyone know if Mir runs on the Acer C720 chromebook?
[10:12] <popey> http://www.reddit.com/r/chrubuntu/comments/1yd74w/c720_has_anyone_managed_to_get_the_touchpad/cfk4cjw suggests it does, but that's a year old
[10:16] <alan_g> popey: I've no idea. But if e.g. Unity7 works well (I don't know that either) then I'd expect the drivers to be good enough for Mir.
[10:18] <popey> alan_g: i have seen videos of unity 7 running on it, so could be.
[10:23] <alan_g> In that case, it probably works. But I don't know of anyone who can try it. Why are you asking?
[10:32] <popey> alan_g: just looking for a device I can test mir / unity 8 on
[10:32] <popey> trying yesterday on my nouveau nvidia desktop was less than successful
[10:33] <alan_g> :-/
[10:35] <alan_g> I've an intel setup, but can try to help. (If you didn't get help yesterday.)
[10:36] <popey> I installed the unity8-lxc package and set that up, then logged out and when i try to login it seems to start the session but I end up with a blank desktop
[10:36] <popey> I can see lots of interesting processes running - unity related
[10:37] <popey> willcooke: how good is unity8 / desktop-next wily? Is it known broken?
[10:40] <willcooke> popey, the original Desktop Next - the one based on .debs is, I'd say, unmaintained right now.
[10:40] <willcooke> The new one based on Snappy is a work-in-progress
[10:41] <willcooke> seb128 was having a few issues getting it to boot, but they're being worked through atm
[10:41]  * popey wonders which one unity8-lxc installs
[10:42] <popey> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/ gets it from there
[10:42] <willcooke> yeah
[10:42] <willcooke> try this URL instead:
[10:42] <popey> is that deb or snappy?
[10:43]  * willcooke looks for the URL
[10:43] <willcooke> deb
[10:43] <popey> this isn't going to work I don't think
[10:43] <popey> via unity8-lxc anyway
[10:43] <willcooke> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/backup-20150422/
[10:44] <popey> is that something I can dd onto a usb stick and boot from willcooke ?
[10:44] <willcooke> yah
[10:47] <popey> ok
[13:03] <kgunn> camako: hey look...you got one you asked for (i think this was your idea)
[13:03] <kgunn> https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/bmp-show-diffstat/+merge/260921
[13:40] <kdub> gah! client code
[13:48]  * alan_g wonders which client
[13:48] <kdub> src/client/
[14:11] <camako> kgunn, o cool
[16:08] <alan_g> kdub: AlbertA - you guys approved an earlier version, but I've added stuff. Could you re-review? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/unity-system-compositor/debug-without-dm/+merge/247815
[16:08] <kdub> alright
[16:11] <kdub> that mircommon abi thing has been pushed to lp:mir, right? (about to kick off some CI)
[16:14] <alan_g> kdub: yes
[16:14] <kdub> mk, thanks
[18:07] <kdub> @vogons, any more takers on: https://code.launchpad.net/~kdub/mir/add-streams-to-surface/+merge/259776 ?
[18:07]  * kdub will merge it shortly if no
[18:39] <kdub> thanks AlbertA
[18:49] <AlbertA> @vogons, good wiki page to understand the image channels when flashing devices: http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/
[18:50]  * camako bookmarks it
[18:50] <AlbertA> and recovery images (needed for ubuntu-device-flash) krillin: http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/recovery.img
[18:50] <AlbertA> vegetahd: http://people.canonical.com/~jhm/barajas/recovery-vegetahd.img
[18:50] <AlbertA> arale: http://people.canonical.com/~alextu/tangxi/recovery/recovery.img
[18:51] <camako> all over the place
[19:33] <bschaefer> are there any examples/demos for dlopening libmir and running it that way?
[19:34]  * bschaefer has some for SDL2 but now they are failing...on a crash in dlopen through protobuff
[19:39] <AlbertA> bschaefer: libmirclient?
[19:40] <bschaefer> AlbertA, yeah, i forgot i had a different example for dlopening mir and its working :(
[19:40] <bschaefer> the crash i see in SDL2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11531043/
[19:40] <bschaefer> and the example that doesn't crash on mir: https://github.com/BrandonSchaefer/RA/blob/master/src/linux/RA_mir_driver.c
[19:42]  * bschaefer has to dig some more through SDL2
[19:44]  * bschaefer wonders if it gets angry after trying to open libmirclient a second time
[19:48] <AlbertA> bschaefer: umm looks like: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1391976
[19:50] <bschaefer> AlbertA, shoot, that'll be fun to get around... i need to look into why SDL2 likes to load it twice
[19:50] <bschaefer> AlbertA, as thats what it does atm
[19:50] <bschaefer> AlbertA, thanks! I should have looked for a bug :)
[19:51] <bschaefer> (though it doesn't do a close in my example from what i see
[19:51] <bschaefer> i could have missed it though... i should double check as RAOF asked about that yesterday as well
[19:54] <bschaefer> eeek it is doing an unload before loading again
[19:54] <AlbertA> bschaefer: but it's there a path where you load libmirclient and close it and then load it again?
[19:54] <bschaefer> AlbertA, so yes it is that bug, ill make a comment, thanks again
[19:54] <AlbertA> bschaefer: ok
[19:56] <bschaefer> yeah it needs to load the libraries in to test for 3d acceleration
[19:56] <bschaefer> then unloads, then loads again when the app starts
[19:56] <bschaefer> fun
[20:01] <kgunn> AlbertA: hey so the qtubuntu mir backend update you're working on, will that address the multiwindow aspect i was questioning earlier ?
[20:02] <AlbertA> kgunn: yeah it will use the apis we currently have
[20:02] <AlbertA> for menus/dialogs
[20:02] <kgunn> awesome
[20:02] <AlbertA> not quite sure how tooltips behave yet
[20:02] <AlbertA> in qt
[20:03] <kgunn> AlbertA: are you basically using Qt creator as your test bed?
[20:03] <AlbertA> kgunn: and some simple qml tests apps too
[23:14] <infinity> Hey, did whoever added the new abi-compliance-checker build-dep to Mir think of filing an MIR for it (it's in universe)?