[05:33] <mapps> hey
[05:33] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[05:33] <mapps> ;]
[05:33] <mapps> 1 tv ep then home:D
[05:39] <knightwise> hey everyone
[05:40] <mapps> hey
[05:40] <mapps> ep 4 of motive time;)
[07:09] <MooDoo> morning
[07:11] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:17] <knightwise> morning peeps
[07:23] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo and knightwise
[07:28] <Odd_Bloke> Morning.
[07:30] <TwistedLucidity> Morning
[07:34] <TwistedLucidity> It's 2015 and Windows *still* has a file path limit of about 255. *sob*
[07:34] <popey> http://www.reddit.com/r/thebutton
[07:34] <popey> "fun"
[07:36] <TwistedLucidity> popey: http://www.reddit.com/r/thebutton/comments/387qd5/a_short_list_of_marriages_that_ended_quicker_than/
[07:36] <popey> hah
[07:36] <popey> i dont quite understand this sub
[07:37] <TwistedLucidity> It could be many things. A Reddit-lotto affair, some psych test to see how quickly/not people press the button, to let the reptilain alien overlords know who to spare....
[07:38] <TwistedLucidity> Resets at halfway, which is odd
[07:38] <TwistedLucidity> I wanted to get "0001"
[07:38] <TwistedLucidity> I wonder if digging into the JS is cheating.....
[07:38] <popey> i think it resets when _someone_ presses it
[07:39] <popey> just went to 9s for me
[07:40] <TwistedLucidity> Ah...a global reset.
[07:40] <TwistedLucidity> Got down to 09xx there.
[07:40]  * TwistedLucidity ponders fiddling with network connection
[07:41] <popey> \o/ 37 hours and 73% battery left on bq phone
[07:41] <popey> (37 hours since last charge)
[07:42] <TwistedLucidity> Witchcraft!
[07:42] <popey> ikr
[07:42] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-06-03-084237.png
[07:42] <popey> \o/
[07:42] <TwistedLucidity> Genuinely interested in the "convergent" one that's coming out.
[07:43] <TwistedLucidity> I have no use case for it (at the moment) but it just...I like me toys
[07:43] <popey> i like the idea of it too
[07:43] <TwistedLucidity> Although having the carry the monitor, keyboard and mouse around is a tad inconvenient.
[07:44] <TwistedLucidity> We need Canonical Contact. An on-cornea display
[07:44] <TwistedLucidity> Then Canoncial Electro-tat, so a keyboard can be tattooed onto the arm of choice
[07:44] <TwistedLucidity> Done.
[07:44] <TwistedLucidity> Then a mossy will bite you on "Esc" and all heck will break loose!
[07:45] <popey> in 2015 I predict people will be able to own more than one keyboard and screen, and maybe even leave them in different locations which might be purpose built for "living" and "working"
[07:45] <popey> maybe I'm just a dreamer...
[07:46] <TwistedLucidity> Says the telecommuter....
[07:46]  * popey notes he has both "work" and "live" locations
[07:46]  * TwistedLucidity offers a "working in your pants" high-5
[07:46] <popey> ^5
[07:47] <TwistedLucidity> I'm not actually sure I could go back to an office. For starters, at home I have coffee that's actually drinkable.
[07:47] <TwistedLucidity> And better Internet.
[07:47] <popey> I miss people sometimes
[07:48] <popey> I end up talking to strangers when I'm out
[07:48] <popey> which gets me funny looks
[07:48] <diplo> I do too, I've gone from working with 200~ ish people to 1 :/
[07:48] <TwistedLucidity> I had a hamster to keep me company in the office (seriously, it worked).
[07:48] <TwistedLucidity> Now my g/f works from home too and we also have a dog.
[07:48] <diplo> Always thought I would love working like this, but it sucks at times
[07:48] <TwistedLucidity> So the house is busy
[07:48] <TwistedLucidity> I used to keep the news running sometimes
[07:49] <popey> I even shut doors around the house to force the cats to sleep in my office
[07:49] <TwistedLucidity> See, hamster is better that way. I lives in a cage.
[07:49] <TwistedLucidity> But only for about 2 years, which kinda sucks
[08:32] <foobarry> second monitor is connected, xrandr does not show it connected. was working until recently. any ideas?
[08:36] <foobarry> oh...
[08:36] <foobarry> removed power , and battery. fixed the problem!
[08:51] <JamesTait> Good morning, folks! Happy Repeat Day, and happy Repeat Day! 😃
[08:52] <TheGeek> howdy
[09:01] <popey> lulz
[09:51] <knightwise> morning
[09:53] <MooDoo> howdy knightwise
[10:23] <knightwise> hey MooDoo , how are you
[10:56] <MooDoo> knightwise: good thanks, just reading my python programming for beginners book
[11:22] <knightwise> MooDoo: our geekling showed me a site to learn to program with python using a game to teach you
[11:23] <MooDoo> yeah i've got this book called python programming for the absolute beginner, that teaches you with games.
[11:23] <knightwise> codecombat.com
[11:24] <MooDoo> ta
[11:26] <brobostigon> reminds me, i was talking cryptography with my gf's son yesterday, and he is only 9.
[11:30] <knightwise> brobostigon: cool :) never too young to learn
[11:31] <brobostigon> my thought exactly as well, :)
[11:31] <TwistedLucidity> What are you trying to hide, brobostigon. Camoron's Good Citizen Patrol demands answers!
[11:32] <brobostigon> i have many things to hide, which i dont want other people to read.
[11:33] <TwistedLucidity> I am sorry, that is just not acceptable any more. All conversations must be in the clear and readable by Citizen Protection Authority. It's the only way to be safe!
[11:34]  * brobostigon disagrees. we all have the right to privacy, by whatever method.
[11:35] <TwistedLucidity> I am sorry, citizen. But in order to ensure peace in Britian, our Loving Father Camoron has decreed all shall be known by his ever-loving embrace. You will be educated in the correct manner of Good Citizen deportment.
[11:36]  * brobostigon thinks TwistedLucidity should write satire for a living.
[11:36] <TwistedLucidity> It's pretty much what the wing-nut wants. That and a Great Firewall of Britain.
[11:38] <brobostigon> which will be as ineffective as it can be.
[11:38] <TwistedLucidity> Oh I know. But his friends in the consultancies can still get some nice (tax free) coin, that's what matters.
[11:53] <popey> hah, just put a random "spare" ssd in my laptop, booted it, and it's got steamos on it :)
[11:53] <popey> amazed how quickly it boots given this is just a dual core x61s
[11:54] <TwistedLucidity> popey: Gone are the days where you could start a PC and then amble off for a cuppa.
[11:54] <TwistedLucidity> Personally I blame Canonical. :-P
[11:54] <popey> \o/
[11:54] <popey> I'll take that
[11:56] <popey> next drive... what's on this one...
[11:56] <popey> MATE!
[11:58] <TwistedLucidity> Are you dallying with the unclean and heretical DEs? :shock:
[11:58] <bashrc> MATE is ok. I installed it at the weekend on a desktop machine
[11:59] <popey> I'm trying to find a hard disk to wipe and put Unity8/Mir on actually :)
[11:59] <popey> and this one is getting it
[12:21] <foobarry> kindle fire for kids. 2 year no question hardware replcaement
[12:23] <knightwise> popey: that R61 does keep kicking by just adding an SSD right.
[12:28] <popey> and some more ram
[12:28] <popey> went to CeX to see if they had any laptop DDR 2GB sticks earlier, but they only had 1GB ones
[12:28] <popey> apparently this thing can take up to 8GB which would be nice
[12:31] <foobarry> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Boss is amazing
[13:23] <TwistedLucidity> popey: Which SSD you using? A Samsung EVO?
[13:38] <popey> i have a variety of SSDs
[13:41] <TwistedLucidity> I just saw a post that Samsung has messed up. Again. Their response was effectively "Go and soak your head, penguin lover"
[13:41] <TwistedLucidity> https://plus.google.com/+JoolsWills/posts/SueNHz4ePP7
[13:43] <popey> erk
[13:43] <TwistedLucidity> Very
[14:00] <directhex> ssds suck, clearly
[14:01] <directhex> unrelated: crucial-brand ssds don't work on nvidia tegra dev boards
[14:01] <shauno> I've been plenty happy with my intel ones
[14:04] <TwistedLucidity> I have a Samsung EVO SSD...I am not happy at their attitude (luckily mine is old enough to not need the firmware update AFAICT)
[14:04] <intrbiz> I won't be updating the firmware on the 840 in the laptop then
[14:06] <intrbiz> directhex: is that an nvidia issue or a crucial issue?
[14:07] <directhex> intrbiz: yes.
[14:09] <popey> heh
[14:26] <ujjain> does it cost money to cash a cheque?
[14:28] <TwistedLucidity> ujjain: Depends.
[14:28] <directhex> it doesn't cost money to deposit a cheque in your bank account
[14:28] <ujjain> directhex, ah good
[14:28] <directhex> it costs money to take a cheque to a payday loan shop and have them give you cash up front for itr
[14:37] <TwistedLucidity> Also if the cheque is issued by a foreign bank
[14:37] <TwistedLucidity> Which is why "depends"
[15:30] <foobarry> is there a way on ebay to see feedback relating to 1 item that is sold in multiples?
[15:31] <foobarry> if the seller has 100,000 feedback it's hard to wade through the items that are not relevant
[17:59] <daftykins> i got two of the four cameras on this cheap 720p CCTV setup today
[17:59] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9giznvmhec63o26/Screenshot_2015-06-03-17-49-23.png?dl=0
[17:59] <daftykins> :D
[18:20] <shauno> 4 cameras?! you're going to spy on the whole island?
[18:28] <daftykins> shauno: :D
[18:51] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w35vu51pvf1t9e0/Screenshot_2015-06-03-19-41-29.png?dl=0
[18:51] <daftykins> there's the full quality one
[18:51] <daftykins> very impressed i am!
[19:18] <mapps> oving apartments in september
[19:18] <mapps> decisions
[19:19] <mapps> 1bed in a bulding that looks crap but ok £875
[19:19] <mapps> 1 bd near where i am atm £975
[19:19] <mapps> 2 bed in a nice apartment buildin £1500
[20:21] <daftykins> mapps: heh, i'd hate to ever have to share again :D
[20:29] <mapps> yea its a pain
[20:29] <mapps> lived on my own in stoke for 4 years too
[20:29] <mapps> so used to living alone
[20:31] <foobarry> what about the burglars?
[20:31] <foobarry> surely they came to visit in stoke a lot?/
[20:31] <foobarry> my friend got burgled in stoke but they didn't take the remotes
[20:31] <foobarry> took everything else
[20:32] <foobarry> my friend said smash the rmeote
[20:32] <foobarry> they didn't
[20:32] <foobarry> burglars came bak 2 days later for the remotes and got them
[20:32] <mapps> ;[
[20:32] <mapps> where in stoke
[20:33] <intrbiz> we had a 100% crime rise the one year, someone left their car in the pub carpark with keys in the ignition whilst they were busy getting pissed
[20:33] <foobarry> u know the uni
[20:33] <mapps> ahh yea
[20:33] <daftykins> foobarry: lol, nasty
[20:33] <foobarry> with the uni on your right, carry on down the road another half mile
[20:34] <mapps> wouldnt be keen on living there
[20:34] <foobarry> robbie williams used to hang around the uni a lot, even though he didn't study
[20:34] <mapps> few mins from station right?
[20:34] <foobarry> told everyone he would be big some day
[20:34] <foobarry> everyone laughed
[20:34] <foobarry> i still would
[20:34] <intrbiz> when I was at uni, one student landlord, painted all their houses front doors yellow
[20:34] <mapps> like now living wihth my mate things annoy me like he does washing everyday like lol nice waste of water nd electric
[20:35] <daftykins> intrbiz: seems a bit nasty
[20:35] <intrbiz> struggle to think of a better way to advertise when a property is empty out of term time
[20:35] <daftykins> XD
[20:35] <mapps> like if the bins full he still puts stuff balanced on top so it falls out
[20:35] <mapps> like he darent touch the ag or rubbish
[20:35] <mapps> *bag
[20:35] <intrbiz> daftykins: yeh, fecking stupid, they were called: yellow door rentals, or sumthing silly
[20:36] <daftykins> X|
[20:36] <Myrtti> things you learn.
[20:36] <foobarry> although empty outside term time
[20:36] <Myrtti> Staffordshire exports: pots, cups and Robbie Williams.
[20:36] <daftykins> mapps: ugh
[20:36] <mapps> like i get it it's rubbish im not saying eat it..but empty the bin for goodness sake
[20:36] <daftykins> yeah that's still living like a student fool
[20:36] <intrbiz> Myrtti: oatcakes!!!
[20:36] <mapps> honestly it's like hes scared of getting anything on his hands
[20:36] <daftykins> i'd never tolerate that
[20:37] <mapps> nah he lived at home before here mate
[20:37] <mapps> in scotland
[20:37] <mapps> so i assume his parents did everything
[20:37] <mapps> IF he ever empties the bin he puts a new bag in and leaves old one in kitchen basically waiting for me to take down
[20:37] <mapps> left it a few days to see once and sure enough he didnt move it
[20:38] <ahayzen> haha people come and empty my bins for me in my student halls lol :-)
[20:38] <daftykins> hehe
[20:38] <daftykins> ahayzen: sickening :P
[20:38] <mapps> he's young eh
[20:38] <mapps> ;)
[20:38] <ahayzen> probably for the best otherwise no one would ever empty them
[20:42] <intrbiz> ahayzen: ah, the good old days
[20:42] <ahayzen> \o/
[20:43] <mapps> uni
[20:43] <mapps> years ao
[20:43] <mapps> ago
[20:43] <mapps> heh
[20:47] <Bingley> 'allo
[20:49] <intrbiz> keep leaving my projects on the wrong branch, sigh :(
[20:50] <Bingley> Just wondering which of these bugs are the most annoying : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bugs?orderby=-heat&start=0
[20:51] <ahayzen> this is the most annoying, when it happens https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1429887
[20:51] <lubotu3`> Launchpad bug 1429887 in powerd (Ubuntu) "Sometimes need 3 power button presses to turn on screen" [High,Confirmed]
[20:52] <Bingley> Yeah, I saw that one - is that on the phone ?
[20:52] <ahayzen> yeah
[20:52] <ahayzen> happens randomly, not very often though
[20:53] <intrbiz> unity is by far the most iritating
[20:53] <Bingley> shouldn't it read 3 power buttons , then or is it the 3rd actual button that needs depressed ?
[20:54] <ahayzen> the 3rd time you press the button it then wakes up
[20:54] <Bingley> oh ok then.
[20:55] <Bingley> or not, maybe.
[20:55] <ahayzen> the 1st nothing happens, so you press it again thinking you missed the button then the screen goes on then off very quickly, then you press it a 3rd time
[20:55] <Bingley> which phone - all of them ?
[20:56] <ahayzen> i'm on mako (nexus4) and i've definitely seen it, think it also happens on the Bq
[20:56] <ahayzen> but as i said really rarely like once a month maybe
[20:56] <ahayzen> (for me anyway)
[21:00] <Bingley> Did anyone see the new Android phones (recently)? - they're coming with proper docks now.
[21:01] <Bingley> I was thinking of getting one 3d printed for the Aquarius 5
[21:02] <Bingley> won't be long untill you dock it and it sends stuff to the chromecast, I'll bet.
[21:03] <Bingley> Lunduke says it'll be 4 years before Unity 8+ is stable.
[21:04] <ahayzen> define 'stable' lol
[21:04] <Bingley> an Omlette apparently .. i'll have a look for it.
[21:06] <Bingley> http://www.networkworld.com/article/2927999/opensource-subnet/review-ubuntu-15-04-is-an-amazing-release-but-i-hate-it.html
[21:08] <ahayzen> it'll be interesting how fast unity8 becomes 'stable' as CI with unit/acceptance tests has been heavily integrated into most layers of the platform as it has been built
[21:09] <Bingley> aside: he's alsp got a video out that i missed : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0l-Ac7fTU
[21:09] <mapps> argh
[21:09] <mapps> how do i set squid to use server ip
[21:09] <Bingley> **also
[21:09] <mapps> and not show client
[21:20] <mapps> daftykins around?
[21:21] <daftykins> sorta
[21:21] <mapps> can you try for me?:D
[21:22] <daftykins> try what
[21:22] <mapps> my proxy
[21:22] <mapps> see if it shows y ip when you use it
[21:23] <daftykins> i haven't really got any of that softie installed still or anything
[21:23] <daftykins> if you meant that o0
[21:23] <daftykins> just gaming atm though
[21:24] <mapps> i meant ust try it in ffox
[21:24] <mapps> or chrome
[21:24] <mapps> ;D
[21:30] <daftykins> maybe in a few
[21:32] <mapps> ok:)
[23:01] <daftykins> aaah so tired
[23:01] <daftykins> this is some seriously impressive nightvision - https://www.dropbox.com/s/0l6hfpxubve43vb/Screenshot_2015-06-03-23-14-15.png?dl=0
[23:06] <zmoylan-pi> how dark is that room?
[23:07] <zmoylan-pi> shadows are been cast
[23:08] <zmoylan-pi> and the spot on the bench and floor indicates a light source
[23:09] <daftykins> must be the second camera that's up the other side
[23:09] <daftykins> shining down toward the kinda postcard rack
[23:09] <daftykins> lets see
[23:11] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k2m1yl31esb5twb/Screenshot_2015-06-04-00-10-21.png?dl=0
[23:11] <daftykins> :>
[23:12] <daftykins> that is very puzzling
[23:21] <zmoylan-pi> might be an ir light on the other camera?
[23:22] <daftykins> yeah they've both got a tonne of LEDs surrounding, shining down
[23:22] <zmoylan-pi> that would do it.
[23:22] <daftykins> but you would kinda expect to see a shaft of light to the left of the L shaped wall section in the above
[23:22] <zmoylan-pi> i know that the fox near my wildlife camera can detect the light it uses when he trips and it spooks him
[23:22] <daftykins> heh
[23:23] <zmoylan-pi> that and the magpies and crows look directly at the red led it flashes to indicate taking a pic during the day
[23:24] <daftykins> :>
[23:24] <daftykins> that's handy
[23:24] <zmoylan-pi> great for police identification pics if they nick something valuable.  :-P
[23:25] <daftykins> mmm they need to secure the NVR box now
[23:26] <daftykins> and at some point i'll switch it to motion detection instead of permanent record