| jrwren | i always hated ironing shirts | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| jrwren | even though I love suiting up, I'm glad I'm a tshirt guy when I'm not suited up. | 00:20 |
| cscheib | I wear button downs most of the time now, and it's not so bad... although, no iron shirts are a myth, you've still either gotta iron em or deal with a bit of wrinklage | 00:26 |
| cscheib | I usually just skip ironing em. | 00:26 |
| jrwren | i used to too. :) | 00:30 |
| jrwren | its weird, I used to love my button ups, but then I fell into the wrong developer crowd, and I felt the need to conform to their fashion norms. I adopted t-shirts. | 00:31 |
| cscheib | heh | 00:41 |
| cscheib | I rarely leave the house in a t shirt | 00:41 |
| cscheib | polo, if anything | 00:41 |
| cmaloney | I wear polos at work and T-shirts the rest of the time | 01:10 |
| rick_h_ | button ups ftw | 01:11 |
| rick_h_ | I've gone the t-shirt -> button up route | 01:11 |
| cmaloney | And in the winter I wear sweaters with t-shirts underneath | 01:11 |
| cmaloney | Frankly I couldn't care less what people think of what I wear. | 01:11 |
| gamerchick02 | i feel better at work when i've ironed my shirts | 01:11 |
| cmaloney | Just as long as it's not completely off-base. | 01:11 |
| cmaloney | and somewhat matches. :) | 01:12 |
| gamerchick02 | sorry i was working on my pathfinder character | 01:12 |
| gamerchick02 | yay for matching! | 01:12 |
| cmaloney | gamerchick02: Playing PF locally? | 01:12 |
| gamerchick02 | at work actually | 01:12 |
| gamerchick02 | we have a game going on thursdays at lunch | 01:12 |
| cmaloney | Ah, neat. | 01:12 |
| gamerchick02 | yes! i'm a Kitsune in this game | 01:12 |
| gamerchick02 | Hunter. with a badger as a pet | 01:12 |
| cmaloney | Wonder if I could get a game started at work | 01:13 |
| cmaloney | something like Fiasco or some other one-shot. | 01:13 |
| gamerchick02 | we're doing a long-ish game but breaking it up more | 01:13 |
| cmaloney | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4jcIDkFu9gg/VW46olSWMjI/AAAAAAAAgqU/3sZJ2sPmY10/w610-h343-no/15%2B-%2B1 | 01:16 |
| gamerchick02 | bwahahahaha | 01:18 |
| gamerchick02 | that was hilarious! | 01:20 |
| cmaloney | :-l | 01:20 |
| cmaloney | ;) | 01:20 |
| gamerchick02 | switching dice because my purple dice were being stupid last game | 01:21 |
| gamerchick02 | going green and blue for this character | 01:23 |
| gamerchick02 | i've not created a character for anything in the longest time. i spent probably from about 7 to 9 working on it tonight. oi | 01:25 |
| rick_h_ | what do you call something that you all know but aren't saying explicitly? | 01:36 |
| rick_h_ | I keep thinking assumption, but that's not really it | 01:36 |
| jrwren | SWEET! I just scored 2 Intel PRO-1000 card from some guy down the road | 01:36 |
| jrwren | I <3 the internet. | 01:36 |
| jrwren | he just posted on some group email list i'm on. | 01:36 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: <3 | 01:36 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: implicit knowledge | 01:53 |
| gamerchick02 | rick_h_: kind of like an observation? | 01:53 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: gamerchick02 no, but yea you guys get the idea. I swear there's some work out there | 01:54 |
| rick_h_ | like acknowledgement, or matter of fact, or something but my english is fail | 01:54 |
| cmaloney | a priori knowledge | 01:54 |
| gamerchick02 | you swear there's work out there? you know you can contact my mom and she can put you to work... | 01:54 |
| gamerchick02 | :-P | 01:54 |
| rick_h_ | gamerchick02: :P word | 01:55 |
| cmaloney | up | 01:55 |
| gamerchick02 | hee | 01:56 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Awesome re: the network cards. | 01:56 |
| gamerchick02 | yes! | 01:57 |
| gamerchick02 | free or cheap? | 01:57 |
| * cmaloney is trying to find someone local that has access to some Sinclair hardware that isn't a Timex TS1000 | 01:57 | |
| jrwren | free | 01:57 |
| gamerchick02 | free is best | 01:58 |
| jrwren | i don't know if I have empty slots for it in my computer. I've already got 5 Gbit ports and a 100Mbit port :) | 01:58 |
| cmaloney | Sadly everything I'm finding is in the UK and when you get done converting GBP into USD and add shipping it's a fucking mint | 01:58 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: What the hell? HOw many networks are you running? | 01:59 |
| gamerchick02 | OH if anyone in here works at Chrysler and is interested in Pathfinder, i have a group i meet with on Thursdays | 01:59 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: just one. | 01:59 |
| gamerchick02 | why do you need that many cards? | 01:59 |
| cmaloney | gamerchick02: Sadly no to both. :) | 01:59 |
| gamerchick02 | sadly. but you *could* come as a visitor and i could escort you to the room... hah! | 02:00 |
| jrwren | at one point it was because I didn't want a switch and cables hanging everywhere, so everything went to the 1 server, which switched for me. | 02:00 |
| gamerchick02 | that's actually kind of brilliant | 02:00 |
| jrwren | now I think I may bond some channels between some systems. | 02:00 |
| cmaloney | gamerchick02: That would require me to be interested in Pathfinder. I'd rather play other games. :) | 02:00 |
| gamerchick02 | ah! well, i've not played an RPG in forever so i kind of jumped at this one. | 02:00 |
| gamerchick02 | would have done a White Wolf campaign too | 02:01 |
| cmaloney | I want to find a 13th age campaign without having to start one | 02:01 |
| cmaloney | sadly that's a little trickier | 02:01 |
| gamerchick02 | i almost wish we were still doing the long-running Rifts game i was in while i was in college | 02:01 |
| gamerchick02 | ah college | 02:01 |
| cmaloney | Hah, Rifts | 02:01 |
| gamerchick02 | that was AWESOME | 02:01 |
| cmaloney | where the setting is importat and the system doesn't matter. | 02:02 |
| gamerchick02 | i was a techno-wizard who rode a motorcycle and could fix ANYTHING | 02:02 |
| gamerchick02 | i was like an engineer who had magic, and honestly, i'm half that right now. i wish i was magic. | 02:02 |
| cmaloney | heh | 02:02 |
| gamerchick02 | i've played Shadowrun (that character was a hacker), Lo5R (samauri!), RuneQuest (i was a duck), D&D (multiple characters), WW mage and vampire one-shots... | 02:04 |
| cmaloney | Yay Runequest! | 02:04 |
| gamerchick02 | i was a DUCK!! | 02:04 |
| gamerchick02 | i had armor and everything!! | 02:04 |
| cmaloney | I've come to appreciate the RuneQuest system | 02:05 |
| cmaloney | Glorantha makes me want to hurt people though | 02:05 |
| cmaloney | RuneQuest 6 and OpenQuest are pretty sweet | 02:05 |
| gamerchick02 | and the puns would go really well: "hey, put the party's drinks on my bill." (get it... MY BILL?!?! haw haw haw!!) | 02:05 |
| gamerchick02 | it was only a one-shot game | 02:05 |
| cmaloney | Still, <3 RuneQuest | 02:06 |
| cmaloney | Also <3: Fate Core, Dungeon World / Apocalypse World, D6, GURPS, GUMSHOE, and FUDGE | 02:07 |
| cmaloney | and Eclipse Phase. | 02:07 |
| gamerchick02 | GURPS!! | 02:07 |
| gamerchick02 | yay! | 02:07 |
| gamerchick02 | i'd like to do more GURPS | 02:07 |
| cmaloney | Same | 02:08 |
| gamerchick02 | we did a big eyes small mouth one-shot too | 02:08 |
| cmaloney | also <3 talislanta | 02:08 |
| gamerchick02 | :) | 02:09 |
| cmaloney | Mostly because they released it CC-BY-NC-ND | 02:10 |
| gamerchick02 | yes | 02:12 |
| cmaloney | http://talislanta.com/ | 02:12 |
| gamerchick02 | thank you | 02:13 |
| gamerchick02 | we also did a D6 one shot | 02:13 |
| cmaloney | np | 02:13 |
| cmaloney | D6 is pretty sweet | 02:13 |
| cmaloney | http://www.breachworld.com/ | 02:13 |
| cmaloney | This has been called Rifts for D6 | 02:13 |
| gamerchick02 | oooo | 02:14 |
| gamerchick02 | like i need MORE games to play. :-P | 02:14 |
| cmaloney | heh | 02:14 |
| gamerchick02 | i'll stick with pathfinder right now | 02:14 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 12:32 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 12:32 |
| mrgoodcat | morn | 12:43 |
| _stink_ | yo | 12:47 |
| cmaloney | CHC Tonight. :) | 12:48 |
| * _stink_ shrinks into the shadows | 12:48 | |
| cmaloney | _stink_: You get a pass for another 4 years. | 12:48 |
| cmaloney | Make the best of it. | 12:48 |
| cmaloney | ;) | 12:49 |
| _stink_ | i... will try. | 12:52 |
| mrgoodcat | i feel bad about CHC | 12:53 |
| mrgoodcat | I would say i've been busy but that just feels like a bad excuse | 12:53 |
| mrgoodcat | i live an hour away from CHC now though | 12:53 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: Has life settled down any? | 12:53 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: I used to live an hor away from CHC | 12:54 |
| cmaloney | it's do-able. :) | 12:54 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_ lives an hour away. | 12:54 |
| cmaloney | Also: did you move recently? | 12:54 |
| wolfger | I just don't even code anymore :-( Not that I ever really did. Not like everybody else. | 13:03 |
| wolfger | but if you start up Beer House Brewers meetings, call me! :-D | 13:03 |
| cmaloney | You can still come to the coders meeting | 13:05 |
| wolfger | I used to dodge it because I felt like an imposter. Now I know I'm an imposter. I can't even remember how to write Perl without hitting google. | 13:06 |
| wolfger | My current career ambition is to milk my IT job until I can afford to open a brewery. | 13:07 |
| wolfger | or until I find wealthy investors that will enable my dream | 13:08 |
| brousch | You will miss the brewery bubble if you wait much longer | 13:13 |
| mrgoodcat | cmaloney: life is settled-ish | 13:15 |
| mrgoodcat | i moved in with $gf | 13:15 |
| mrgoodcat | mom is stable again | 13:15 |
| mrgoodcat | parents divorced though | 13:15 |
| mrgoodcat | so better but not ideal i guess | 13:15 |
| jrwren | wolfger: you don't code AT ALL!?!?! | 13:16 |
| wolfger | I coded some VBA about... 4 months ago? | 13:18 |
| wolfger | brousch: I've been hearing about the brewery bubble for years. And every year Michigan breweries increase sales and production. The bubble is a myth. | 13:19 |
| jrwren | i can't live without coding. I get some idea for how something could be better, adn I go do it. Especially little things, becuase they sound little, and so I feel the MUST be done. | 13:19 |
| wolfger | people will never stop drinking beer | 13:19 |
| jrwren | the bubble is in big beer, and it lasted for 50yrs. Its bursting. | 13:19 |
| wolfger | I'm still a few years out from being able to make a serious go at it, sadly. In the meantime, I practice the craft and study the business. | 13:21 |
| wolfger | The hard part of running a successful brewery will not be "making good beer". | 13:22 |
| brousch | Where will you open it? | 13:23 |
| rick_h_ | wolfger: don't feel bad. I don't code any more and actually spent the weekend thinking of how to shut down bookie.io. | 13:23 |
| wolfger | :-o | 13:24 |
| brousch | wat?! | 13:24 |
| wolfger | brousch: there's currently no breweries near where I live. That meshes nicely with my desire to have a job where I ride my bicycle to work. :-) | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | I've not done a bookie commit in some 6mo? and it's costing me $200/mo | 13:25 |
| rick_h_ | it's into unmanged territory and I don't have time for it. | 13:25 |
| brousch | Gratipay is changed now, so that $0.25/wk I donated won't get to you | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I killed my account there | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: so that was you! :) | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | ty for that. I used it to donate to others that did software I used like the pyramid folks and mike bayer | 13:26 |
| brousch | To kill bookie, all you have to do is insert annoying ads and inject malware downloads | 13:27 |
| rick_h_ | heh, I don't think it's all that alive as it is | 13:28 |
| wolfger | lol | 13:28 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, expect to see an email shortly with a 'here's your export options, run your own, etc' | 13:28 |
| brousch | So you've become so manager that you no longer code? | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | pretty much, and no time for coding in my spare time with other things going on | 13:29 |
| rick_h_ | and spending the $$ a month to run it is jsut something I should cut from my expenses | 13:29 |
| brousch | Yeah, that's a big expense | 13:29 |
| brousch | Could maybe be justified when it was a hobby | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | I mean for what I pay for bookie it'd pay all my cell phone, mifi, and streaming services | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | right | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | I used to justify it as if I went golfing I'd spend as much | 13:30 |
| wolfger | Yeah... | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | but I don't spend time on it so it's just sinking $$ to keep folks happy with performance | 13:30 |
| wolfger | so... taking up golf? | 13:30 |
| brousch | I like golf | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | no, but fishing, getting a kayak, and with the camping/photography/woodworking more than enough stuff to spend my time on | 13:31 |
| wolfger | I still haven't played a second game of golf, but I will some day. I've been hitting driving ranges just working on not sucking | 13:31 |
| rick_h_ | hah good luck at that | 13:31 |
| rick_h_ | when I play gold I just equate it with sucking | 13:31 |
| wolfger | my definition of "not sucking" is probably a lot more generous than other people's, too. ;-) | 13:32 |
| brousch | It's OK if you suck. Just play at cheap courses with other friends who suck | 13:33 |
| jrwren | i decided i hate golf. I gave it a go. | 13:33 |
| rick_h_ | it's a good way to get outdoors a bit | 13:33 |
| phwelo | jrwren: i have to go with my father all of the time. it's awful | 13:33 |
| rick_h_ | I do more fishing/camping but golf serves a purpose | 13:33 |
| jrwren | i get outdoors to cut my grass. | 13:33 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 13:33 |
| phwelo | BUT if you get really drunk first and take a cart it's easier to just give up and ride around | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | not sure that counts | 13:34 |
| brousch | jrwren: I have some outdoors work for you if you have 45 minutes | 13:34 |
| rick_h_ | https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/18397073015/in/datetaken/ (outdoors) | 13:34 |
| jrwren | brousch: if you mean cutting your grass. I'd consider it, but the drive is so far. | 13:34 |
| wolfger | I have seen that some courses now use these snowboard-ish single person carts. I think that's nifty. | 13:35 |
| wolfger | a bit more exercise than normal carts, but less than walking. | 13:36 |
| jrwren | no wheels? | 13:40 |
| rick_h_ | walking golf ftw | 13:40 |
| rick_h_ | but courses aren't liking as much because you play slower | 13:40 |
| rick_h_ | :( | 13:40 |
| jrwren | disc golf i might like? | 13:43 |
| brousch | It's not really more exciting than golf, just cheaper | 13:44 |
| wolfger | jrwren: ok, more like a skateboard than a snowboard I guess. :-p | 13:46 |
| wolfger | pedant | 13:46 |
| wolfger | disc golf is awesome! | 13:46 |
| wolfger | although losing one in the water is considerably worse than losing a ball in the water | 13:47 |
| jrwren | wolfger: i was honestly asking, because I'd be surprised if golf courses would like something sliding across their greens. | 13:47 |
| wolfger | https://youtu.be/B9VuKK5sbQo | 13:51 |
| rick_h_ | lol golf segway | 13:51 |
| jrwren | bwahahaha | 13:53 |
| wolfger | I mean, that looks so much more fun than the actual game! | 13:54 |
| rick_h_ | wolfger: turns golf into polo | 13:55 |
| wolfger | rofl | 13:55 |
| wolfger | a new meaning for "golf scramble" | 13:55 |
| wolfger | no waiting for other people to take their shots. Everybody tee off at once and first one in the hole wins. | 13:56 |
| wolfger | helmet required | 13:56 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: LMK if I can help in any way with Bookie. | 14:01 |
| cmaloney | I've been slacking in my contributions. | 14:01 |
| cmaloney | I'd hate to see the project wither but I can completely understand the reasoning | 14:02 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: yea, just life moved on here | 14:02 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: won't be out at CHC tonight heads up | 14:02 |
| rick_h_ | but nothing on MUG night for the first time in a while :) | 14:02 |
| cmaloney | Understandable. | 14:03 |
| rick_h_ | so maybe make that | 14:03 |
| cmaloney | Woo woo! | 14:03 |
| cmaloney | Last week's CHC was... interesting | 14:03 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 14:03 |
| rick_h_ | how so? | 14:03 |
| cmaloney | Apparently there was a fashion show scheduled from 5ish to 8:30pm | 14:03 |
| cmaloney | some charity thing | 14:04 |
| cmaloney | so the place was packed. | 14:04 |
| cmaloney | Ended up being James and I meeting at my house. | 14:04 |
| cmaloney | But yeah, I was rather confused at the number of people in the coffeeshop. | 14:08 |
| _stink_ | maybe there were all there for CHC | 14:14 |
| cmaloney | riiiiight | 14:15 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 14:16 |
| cmaloney | brousch: Dammit | 15:31 |
| cmaloney | I'm resigning | 15:31 |
| brousch | I told you you had problems on the left and right! | 15:31 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, well I have a complete blind-spot to those edges. :( | 15:33 |
| brousch | They seem safe, but can be big problems | 15:34 |
| brousch | cmaloney: Your resignation bumped me up to 24k | 15:42 |
| cmaloney | Yay | 15:43 |
| cmaloney | Pretty sure I'm going to be at 50kyu soon. ;) | 15:44 |
| mrgoodcat | rolling comcast outages in your area | 16:03 |
| mrgoodcat | pretty much the worst day | 16:03 |
| cmaloney | :( | 16:12 |
| cmaloney | https://plus.google.com/+CraigMaloney/posts/7Lebs5ykgf2 | 16:12 |
| cmaloney | Here's some emergency cat photos | 16:12 |
| mrgoodcat | lol | 16:15 |
| mrgoodcat | <3 cats | 16:15 |
| mrgoodcat | lunch time | 16:16 |
| ColonelPanic001 | <3 cats | 17:29 |
| _stink_ | .. | 17:45 |
| rick_h_ | I wish cats would die | 17:45 |
| rick_h_ | especially after about...8 years | 17:46 |
| _stink_ | haha | 17:46 |
| ColonelPanic001 | ... | 18:06 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: now now | 18:06 |
| cmaloney | Just because my cat is a spoiled brat doesn't mean you can't love her. :) | 18:07 |
| jrwren | i say that about my daughter every day. | 18:09 |
| phwelo | hm, got an interview at Ford. anyone know anyone in IT over there? | 18:11 |
| greg-g | jrwren: hah | 18:12 |
| jrwren | phwelo: i'm so soarry :) | 18:12 |
| phwelo | i mean i already have a good stable job. the raise would be helpful but not OMFGMYLIFEROCKS helpful | 18:13 |
| wolfger | phwelo: I'm not sure, actually. Many of my coworkers are working on Ford projects, but they aren't Ford. I know some others, but they may or may not be Ford either. :-p | 18:15 |
| wolfger | when I was there briefly, I was in, essentially, "the outsource department". Everybody around me was non-Ford. | 18:16 |
| phwelo | wolfger: This would be "contract to hire" with a year contract | 18:17 |
| wolfger | hard to give up stable for that.... | 18:17 |
| cscheib | phwelo: I"m sure I know someone over there | 18:17 |
| cscheib | what in IT would you be doing? | 18:18 |
| jrwren | phwelo: if it isn't a 50+% raise, its not worth going to the terrible, terrible place that is Ford. At least not for me, it isn't. | 18:18 |
| jrwren | come to think of it, I'd not do it for 50% more I'd need at least 100% more. | 18:18 |
| phwelo | here's the description if anyone's interested: http://pastebin.com/49745Tu7 | 18:19 |
| cscheib | I haven't heard much great about Ford recently either | 18:19 |
| cscheib | Chrysler's (IBM) OK if you don't have to deal with upper management (Senior Managers/Directors/CxO) | 18:19 |
| phwelo | well i'm really interested in ditching the windows and SMB world and getting into a tech company, but have found it really hard to get myself the experience I need. I'm kind of wondering if I can't use ford to learn more (while earning a decent salary) and then move to a company i'll like | 18:20 |
| cscheib | phwelo: ah, I got the recruiter from TekSystems wanting me to spam that to my Puppet group | 18:20 |
| cscheib | HPC stuff may actually be interesting | 18:20 |
| cscheib | and doing config management is pretty neat. | 18:21 |
| cscheib | phwelo: I may be able to get the pay range on that so you know what to ask for | 18:21 |
| phwelo | it's the space i want to be in, just not sure if i need to go as far as to work for a huge corporation to get that experience. | 18:21 |
| wolfger | all I know about Ford is, a bunch of Chrysler people jumped ship to go there. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement though. | 18:21 |
| phwelo | also, i drive a chevy, do i auto-lose? | 18:21 |
| cscheib | wolfger: how long ago? that could have been force-jump due to CSC leaving and IBM coming n | 18:22 |
| jrwren | phwelo: oh that is sweet, ford's HPC group seemed pretty awesome. | 18:23 |
| cscheib | phwelo: don't expect preferred parking | 18:23 |
| wolfger | Ford seems much less anal about what their people drive than Chrysler is. At least, at the tech center in Dearborn | 18:24 |
| wolfger | csc ain't left yet | 18:24 |
| phwelo | yeah my wife was with porsche for a little bit and she said her parking situation sucked pretty bad | 18:25 |
| wolfger | These were all very-voluntary changes in the past 2 years | 18:26 |
| cscheib | oh? I know a lot of the CSC folk are gone, at least in infrastructure | 18:26 |
| cscheib | 2 years is around the time Chrysler started letting CSC know they were out :P | 18:26 |
| jrwren | she drove a porsche or she worked for htem? | 18:26 |
| wolfger | I work in systems. No changes in personnel there yet. Still a CSC show | 18:26 |
| wolfger | will probably be the last to go, since IBM won't have any experienced people in our in-house systems | 18:27 |
| phwelo | jrwren: worked, but they got to drive them as part of training. it actually seriously changed her attitude toward cars & driving | 18:27 |
| wolfger | s/our/their/ I have to remember I'm not them anymore :-) | 18:27 |
| jrwren | phwelo: a porsche will do that :) | 18:27 |
| cmaloney | I worked at ford until 2003 | 18:28 |
| phwelo | i've yet to drive one, but i already enjoy a quick car | 18:28 |
| phwelo | plan on owning one some day :| | 18:28 |
| cscheib | wolfger: ah. I used to manage the storage/backup group for CSC, and I'm pretty sure that's officially hit EMC via IBM. Haven't probed too much past that yet | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | Depending on the hiring mood you are unlikely to be hired. | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | I and myself were long-term contract help | 18:28 |
| cscheib | wolfger: /win 2 | 18:28 |
| cscheib | errr | 18:28 |
| cscheib | oops. | 18:28 |
| phwelo | oh you mean off of the contract cmaloney ? | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | yes | 18:28 |
| cmaloney | So don't hold your breath on being hired in a year | 18:29 |
| cmaloney | (that may be different now but I doubt it) | 18:29 |
| phwelo | as long as salary and benefits i'm good | 18:29 |
| cmaloney | Also understand that Ford is $BIGCOMPANY | 18:29 |
| cmaloney | and they have varying levels of IT | 18:30 |
| cmaloney | and varying levels of folks in said IT departments | 18:30 |
| cmaloney | some are sharp as a tack | 18:30 |
| cmaloney | fucking brilliant | 18:30 |
| phwelo | yeah, oh yeah i understand that well | 18:30 |
| cmaloney | some are taking up space | 18:30 |
| cmaloney | depending on the department you may never see anyone who is brilliant | 18:30 |
| phwelo | i worked verizon from 1st level internal help to 2nd(3rd) level external help | 18:31 |
| cmaloney | just good at making their stuff work | 18:31 |
| cmaloney | (or good at bullshitting) | 18:31 |
| phwelo | hm, got a new job description that includes "evangelizing large-scale compute blah blah blah" that could be fun | 18:35 |
| mrgoodcat | it says 'evangelizing' in your job description? | 18:36 |
| cmaloney | Oh, it sounds like you'll be working in their cloud stuff | 18:36 |
| cmaloney | I think Gib is in there as well | 18:36 |
| phwelo | don't hate on my speeling | 18:36 |
| mrgoodcat | i wasn't hating on your spelling | 18:36 |
| mrgoodcat | i was referring to the fact that to evangelize is to convert someone to christianity | 18:37 |
| phwelo | they use it in tech all the time nowadays. microsoft needs a lot of them | 18:37 |
| mrgoodcat | a lot of christians? | 18:37 |
| phwelo | no a lot of 'technology evangelists' | 18:38 |
| phwelo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology_evangelist | 18:38 |
| cmaloney | mrgoodcat: I think your point is a little subtle here. :) | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | but yes, that word got co-opted by the tech community even though it technically refers to spreading the Christian Gospel. | 18:39 |
| cmaloney | evangel being the root, which means Gospel. | 18:40 |
| phwelo | co-opted, good description | 18:40 |
| cmaloney | or the four gospels of Christianity. | 18:40 |
| cmaloney | bringing good news | 18:41 |
| _stink_ | hey someone wth that job knocked on my door earlier today and gave me a piece of paper inviting me to some meeting | 18:41 |
| phwelo | webster has 3 defs of it | 18:41 |
| * cmaloney is using dict from the command line | 18:41 | |
| cmaloney | _stink_: Do you have a moment to talk about our savior The Cloud? | 18:41 |
| * phwelo apt-get install dict | 18:42 | |
| _stink_ | no-sorry-i'm-busy-the-food-is-burning-someone-just-fell-down-the-stairs-goodbye *slam door* | 18:42 |
| cmaloney | But lo, I am sent by he who's nodes I am not worthy to provision | 18:43 |
| phwelo | if they're religious i've never had issues getting rid of them with a quick "i'm an avid atheist" | 18:43 |
| cmaloney | I just say I'm in market research | 18:43 |
| phwelo | unfortunately using similar logic on salespeople ("I'm broke") never works, huh | 18:44 |
| cmaloney | Broke just means you haven't heard about their financing options | 18:44 |
| _stink_ | i have zero trouble with religious people... it's the fucking clean water action assholes | 18:44 |
| _stink_ | that really piss me off | 18:44 |
| phwelo | i worked for them for a day! | 18:45 |
| phwelo | it was really weird and creeped me out so i quit | 18:45 |
| cmaloney | _stink_: I must be far enough north and east to not have dealt with them | 18:45 |
| _stink_ | the save the children woman is very nice but i have resisted her charms | 18:45 |
| cmaloney | otherwise I'd throw a bottled water at them | 18:45 |
| _stink_ | haha | 18:45 |
| cmaloney | and chase them with the hose | 18:46 |
| cmaloney | because irony. | 18:46 |
| _stink_ | phwelo: i got into it with one of their people one year. oh you're paid? oh it's not a 501c3? fuck off | 18:46 |
| cmaloney | Was this Charity Water? | 18:46 |
| phwelo | at the time i worked there their pay was more than reasonable and something along the lines of 95% of their revenue went to salary | 18:47 |
| _stink_ | cmaloney: cleanwateraction.org | 18:47 |
| phwelo | so yeah, not gonna donate to you | 18:47 |
| cmaloney | yeah, fuck that shit. | 18:47 |
| _stink_ | tchnically they are the type of non profit that can engage policitally | 18:47 |
| _stink_ | politically | 18:47 |
| _stink_ | whichever kind that is, i can't remember | 18:47 |
| phwelo | i believe that's all that they do, collect money from people door-to-door to pay their employees and then lobbyists | 18:48 |
| _stink_ | im' glad my angry knee jerk wasn't too far off. | 18:50 |
| jrwren | a PAC? | 18:51 |
| jrwren | ugh. | 18:51 |
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