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lordievaderGood morning.08:07
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eXistenZeHey guys09:10
lordievadero/09:11
eXistenZeI have my SSD partitioned in 3 (root, free and swap). I don't need a specific mount point on the free partition, but I need it mounted (/media is ok). However when I mount it it's write protected.09:11
eXistenZeHow can I fix this?09:12
lordievadereXistenZe: Who owns the mount?09:12
eXistenZewho what?09:12
eXistenZeSince it's not on an auto mount flag (nor on a specific mount path), I guess my user...09:13
lordievadereXistenZe: You mount it somewhere, who owns that mount.09:17
eXistenZeI just click on the partition in dolphin and it mounts on /media09:18
lordievadereXistenZe: What is the output of 'ls -l /' after it is mounted?09:19
lordievader!paste | eXistenZe09:19
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mariscal.09:20
eXistenZeNot on my laptop. I'll try it when I get home and post09:20
eXistenZeThank you09:20
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Kalashnik0vComentario en español aleatorio09:23
lordievader!spanish | Kalashnik0v09:24
ubottuKalashnik0v: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.09:24
menaceit would be sooo nice if the complete desktop (pre)configuration could be scriptable. not only install widget/activities, but if they are shown by default and in which part. or perhaps i do not find the right documentation for it.09:27
menacei have  a script, which deactivates the networkmanager in the case that it is not seen as default in the tray (but one can activate it). but now, i have to add another script on top, that shall add it into the systray under certain circumstances.. and it should work with configurations where it is not enabled.09:29
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pixxhi09:43
lordievadero/09:44
mariscal#Ubuntu-es09:49
eXistenZeWhat user-folders (like /home) can be mounted to a partition? I already have /home set to my second disk, but needed another one for a third partition...09:51
lordievadereXistenZe: What do you mean? You can mount a partition anywhere you like.09:52
eXistenZeCan I mount a partition in a root folder with whatever name I give it?09:52
lordievaderIf the folder exists, yes.09:53
lordievaderAnd you need to have the rights to do so.09:54
eXistenZeAnd if it does not exist?09:55
lordievaderThen you need to create it first.09:55
eXistenZeI can create root folders with konsole?09:56
lordievadereXistenZe: If you have to rights to do so, yes.09:56
eXistenZeI though the root structure was kind of static09:56
eXistenZeBy "rights" you mean sudo, right?09:58
lordievaderThat depends, if you own the folder you already have all the rights to create subfolders within that folder. However if the folder is owned by root, then yes you need sudo.09:59
eXistenZeThen I should have access to everything, right?09:59
lordievaderWith sudo? Yes.10:00
eXistenZeHas anyone noticed that the kde partition manager is missing the "Ok/Cancel buttons" in partition mount edit and becomes useless fot that?10:04
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eXistenZeguess not10:29
lordievadereXistenZe: Please file a bug against it.10:35
eXistenZelordievader: way too much info for the first couple days... how do you file bugs?11:15
lordievader!bug11:15
ubottuIf you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers.11:15
lordievaderHmm, though this should be reported at http://bug.kde.org11:15
eXistenZeDo these devs hang around any # ?11:17
lordievadereXistenZe: I suppose in #kde-dev, or #plasma.11:18
eXistenZeyesterday plasma gave me the stupid  black screen on login bug... Had to delete the config file with konsole11:19
eXistenZeis kubuntu v15 unstable yet?11:19
lordievaderHere it has been rather stable.11:20
eXistenZeI found several reports on this bug.11:23
lordievadereXistenZe: Then confirm one of the reports.11:27
BluesKajHowdy folks11:44
eXistenZehum... guess I do not have enough juice to run win7 on virtualbox...12:01
eXistenZeWay to slow12:01
lordievadereXistenZe: Try KVM ;)12:01
eXistenZewaayyy to complicated for me12:01
eXistenZehow do you even install it?12:01
eXistenZeI didn't find any tut for it12:02
lordievaderhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM12:03
lordievaderFirst hit in google...12:03
eXistenZeI swear I did google it12:04
eXistenZeand it pointed to kve site with outdated info12:04
eXistenZeDoes it have a native gui or do we need an extra package for that?12:05
lordievadereXistenZe: Virt-manager is probably mentioned somewhere.12:05
lordievaderElse, virt-manager ;)12:05
__dan__eXistenZe: did you install the additions?12:09
eXistenZethe what?12:12
lordievaderThe Vbox additions.12:13
lordievadereXistenZe: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.28/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.3.28-100309.vbox-extpack12:14
eXistenZeThat would improve performance?12:14
__dan__lol big time12:15
__dan__lordievader: thats not it12:15
__dan__there should be an option in the GUI to install12:15
lordievaderMeh, its vb... Slow anyways.12:16
__dan__yeah start the VM, go to devices menu, at the bottom of that menu you should see Install Guest Additions CD Image12:17
__dan__all it does is mount the ISO to your virtual CD drive, you gotta install the stuff on that CD from within your Windows guest12:18
eXistenZeSoooo... KVM or vbox? Honestly12:18
eXistenZeMy rig is a 6year old laptop12:18
__dan__once the drivers and stuff are installed, reboot and the performance should be much better12:18
__dan__also you get fancy stuff like shared clipboard / shared folders etc12:18
__dan__dynamic resize of window to guest resolution12:19
__dan__(although I tried that with a 15.04 alpha and Plasma blew up spectacularly)12:20
* __dan__ has run VirtualBox on worse12:20
BluesKajqemu-kvm is good combo , worked well here (fast) on W7 as guest except for networking to other windows machines on my network , however I probly could have solved the problem with more patience12:20
__dan__off the top of my head I would suspect VirtualBox to be better performing than qemu12:21
__dan__once you put the additions on, it's really quite usable12:21
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__dan__until then it drags it's heels12:21
BluesKajwell it's not as fast12:21
lordievadereXistenZe: If your cpu and kernel supports KVM, KVM without a doubt. Else it doesn't really matter both will be slow.12:22
lordievader__dan__: No, qemu with kvm is much faster than VB. KVM has near bare metal performance.12:22
__dan__qemu with kvm??12:23
lordievader__dan__: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_haswell_virtualization&num=212:23
lordievaderQemu without kvm is slow.12:23
* __dan__ doesn't see the word qemu on that page12:24
__dan__as I understood it, qemu and kvm are totally different technologies12:25
lordievader__dan__: KVM is usually mentioned in one breath with Qemu.12:25
lordievaderKVM is the hypervisor, Qemu is the actual emulator.12:25
lordievaderHowever if Qemu can make use of the KVM extension in the kernel it greatly enhances the performance of Qemu.12:25
eXistenZelordievader: it's a T9400 with virtualization12:26
__dan__ahhh i see, just reading this now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMU12:26
__dan__last i looked at qemu it wasnt doing any of this stuff12:27
* eXistenZe will be right back12:27
lordievadereXistenZe: What is the output of 'kvm-ok'?12:28
lordievaderYou might need to install the cpu-checket package for that command.12:29
__dan__guy already has vbox installed and running12:31
__dan__install the additions, have a nice day12:31
__dan__he's using it for ms office, thats all12:31
__dan__not worth another day of bashing his head against the keyboard for the sake of 10% performance or whatever12:32
lordievaderI'm just answering his questions.12:33
lordievaderWhat ever he does is his own desicion.12:33
__dan__agreed, but come on dude, you could be a KVM salesman :P12:34
lordievaderThat is only because KVM is awesome.12:35
__dan__granted at the end of the day we can only talk about what we know, and personally I know VirtualBox and LXC, bit of VMWare here and there12:35
__dan__lol12:35
lordievaderVirtualBox is owned by Oracle... Case in point.12:35
__dan__I'm with you as far as not liking Oracle, but they seem to have left VirtualBox alone for the most part12:36
__dan__for, shall we say, casual virtualisation, especially Windows guests, it's hard to beat12:36
__dan__VMWare is better performance-wise, their graphics stack is apparently far better, but what do you need for Office anyway?12:37
__dan__beyond that, emulating a full PC isn't always the best idea anyway12:37
* lordievader runs Lightroom/Photoshop in KVM.12:38
__dan__yeah I have no idea what the graphics drivers are like under KVM12:38
__dan__although I'd be surprised if it was a top priority for them12:39
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* BluesKaj agrees with lordievader on this issue, KVM rocks especailly with qemu12:39
__dan__I'm not trying to dispute that, I'm sure it's great, it's used all over the place and is clearly rock-solid, but it's horses for courses innit12:40
__dan__would I run a server farm full of VPS machines on it? or p2v a bunch of old machines for a company's server room? yeah probably ... would I advise one guy who is clearly out of his depth to run it just so he can have MS Office? no, probably not12:41
__dan__but then I haven't tinkered with the graphical front-ends for it either ...12:42
__dan__and as far as Oracle goes, how many you guys run mysql? :P12:43
__dan__(+10 internet points for the first smartass that says MariaDB :P)12:43
__dan__eheh12:44
BluesKaja lot of us are home users , no need for a db12:46
__dan__show me a youtube clip of someone setting up KVM as easy as VirtualBox with a nice GUI, better performance, and fancy stuff like shared clipboard (the usefulness of which cannot be overstated) and I'll hold my hands up12:47
__dan__lol *cough* akonadi12:48
BluesKajfind it yourself ..like I said no need for akonadi either :-)12:49
__dan__easy tiger, just pointing out KVM is not the best for every case12:50
__dan__and yeah I don't have any need for akonadi either but that doesn't stop the bloody thing firing up every time i boot :/12:51
__dan__I still gotta fix that ...12:51
BluesKajfor home users it's probly the best choice, you can disable akonadi in startup & shutdown>desktop seessions by entering it in the field below "Applications to be excluded from...."12:55
__dan__I start with an empty session every time, it still fires up, are you sure that will work?12:56
__dan__and as far as home users go, maybe worth suggesting a nice GUI, I found a Qt-based one when this question came up but already forgot the name of it12:57
BluesKajit works here afaik , check with system monitor12:58
__dan__what do I put in the text box, just akonadi ?13:00
BluesKajyeah, or akonadi-server13:00
__dan__what's the separator, space or comma etc?13:01
__dan__may as well put akonadi,akonadi-server,korgac13:01
__dan__nvm, it's comma13:02
BluesKajcomma and space if you have another app to prevent loading at startup13:02
__dan__thx bud just rebooting now13:03
__dan__nah, no go :/13:05
BluesKajakonadi doesn't use a lot of resources by itself13:05
BluesKajhow are you checking?13:05
__dan__ps aux13:06
__dan__on my machine the akonadi stuff and mysql take up 848MB RSS13:08
__dan__which quite frankly is ridiculous13:09
__dan__after login with 1 konsole open my used RAM is 1.0GB (w/o buffers)13:10
BluesKajakonadictl stop13:10
__dan__ya i do that every login haha13:10
BluesKajakonadi doesn't use much resources afaik13:11
__dan__after I'm down to 817MB so clearly there is some shared but still ...13:11
BluesKajI don't see it in system monitor when i type it in the search field13:11
__dan__200 meg ram for a system I didn't ask for, that performs no actual function on this machine, that's crazy13:11
lordievader__dan__: Refering to the graphics thing, if you have two cards you can give one to a vm ;)13:12
__dan__and really doesn't help the commonly held belief that KDE is heavy13:12
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__dan__lordievader: if you have a spare graphics card in your machine to give to a VM, and furthermore, VT-d support on your CPU, I would hazard a guess that you are not a typical user13:13
lordievader__dan__: Perhaps, does that matter?13:13
__dan__yes, yes i think it does13:13
lordievader__dan__: Virt-manager is easy...13:13
__dan__ok bud13:14
lordievaderJust a wizard, click a couple of times next and done.13:14
lordievaderOr if you really want easy, openstack. Just deploy static images.13:14
__dan__bahahaha13:15
__dan__no comment13:15
EvilRoey__dan__:  er, hi, fancy seeing you ehre13:43
EvilRoeydidn't we meet in ##kubuntu-offtopic?13:43
EvilRoeyhey all o/13:43
EvilRoeylordievader, BluesKaj13:43
BluesKajhwy EvilRoey13:45
BluesKajerr hey :-)13:45
__dan__hehe ya EvilRoey hi :)13:45
lordievaderHey EvilRoey13:47
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henry8989hello everyone I just installed kubuntu on one of my PC's and love it like I o on my other PC's that have it, but my wireless network adapter keeps disconnecting after a while and I have to reconnect it, when this computer ran windows 7 it never did that the wireless adapter always stayed connected any suggestions?14:07
__dan__henry8989: glad to hear you're liking it :) which version of Kubuntu did you install? and have you run all your updates?14:08
henry898914.04 is what I installed and it works like all day long bu then disconnect after like 10 hours or so or like when I went to the computer it and the wifi was disconnected even thought I left it on all night14:14
__dan__my instant reaction is to suspect some kind of power management14:15
henry8989I was the one asking about the nvida geforce 6150 graphics the other day in here and and I have to report they work perfectly with kubuntu unlike regular ubuntu14:16
__dan__ahhh yeah i remember now14:16
henry8989thats what i was figuring bu did not know where to go for the power management of of the wifi card14:16
__dan__fantastic news, I wasnt sure it would work (because computers), but I knew that theoretically it should, and as you would be using the same class of drivers as me, figured it was worth a shot :)14:17
__dan__you could try this command in a konsole14:17
__dan__sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off14:17
henry8989yes it worked but i sitll wnat to know why it jsut goes to black screen on regular ubuntu 14.0414:17
__dan__that sets your wireless to disable power saving, on this machine though, the driver doesn't support that, maybe it will on yours though14:18
__dan__if the command doesn't come back with any error, that's set your wireless card to disable power management, see how you get on with that14:20
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__dan__the setting is only active for your current session, if you reboot it should change back to default, so if you have any issues with the wireless after you run that command, just reboot14:20
__dan__also if your machine goes into sleep mode etc the setting may return to default also14:21
henry8989ok let me see what that does14:25
henry8989it says operation not supported14:27
__dan__yeah same here :( some you can, some you can't14:28
__dan__maybe worth finding out which wireless card you have, and doing a bit of google-fu14:29
lordievadersudo iw list probably tells you ;)14:34
henry8989its an encore enuwi-g2 it says wiphy phy2 and then list all the speeds at which it operates and such whe ni run that command14:39
__dan__for google searching it will be useful to know the driver name14:43
__dan__try this14:43
__dan__grep wlan /var/log/syslog14:43
__dan__you should see something like this: NetworkManager[946]: <info> (wlan0): new 802.11 WiFi device (driver: 'ath5k' ifindex: 3)14:44
__dan__that's from my machine, it uses a wireless card that needs the "ath5k" driver14:44
__dan__may help if you put that in your search14:44
henry8989its a RTL8187B chipset card14:53
__dan__yeah realtek in my experience are not synonomous with quality but have a search and see if you can find anything14:54
__dan__henry8989: just occured to me to point out, don't limit your search to just kubuntu, the problem you're seeing is almost certainly common to all variants of Ubuntu and probably across all distributions of Linux15:11
henry8989oh yes i figure that i would have to use ubuntu15:22
henry8989in my search15:22
__dan__ok cool just thought i would mention15:22
__dan__good luck :)15:22
eXistenZeHey...15:34
eXistenZeNo activity here?15:34
eXistenZeIs there a jokes bot?15:34
lordievadereXistenZe: No, there is no jokes bot here.15:36
BluesKaj!joke15:37
ubottuYou might think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users who follow your advice or irritate people who attempt to answer your question.15:37
BluesKajthe bot has no sense of humour...yet15:38
eXistenZeGotta improve that15:43
eXistenZeIs there some kind of cortana assistant for linux?15:49
eXistenZeSpecially one with access to unix and kubuntu faqs for easy "how do I ..."15:52
eXistenZeIf possible with a pole and some swing animations also15:53
eXistenZeI could beta test if anyone wants to make one...16:01
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krisebefore making start up disk, should i format usb stick fat 32 or ext2 or something else ?16:16
yossarianukhi -not sure this is really a #kubuntu question...16:18
yossarianukbut - if I mtr a target and there is say 1 packet lost - if I leave it running for hours would I be able to see which hop the packet loss occured16:19
mparillokrise: This seems to recommend FAT: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick16:25
mparilloSo does this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB Installation Media16:27
mparilloHere they offer another way with one FAT partition and the other EXTx. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Method_0:_Automatically_create_Live_USB_system16:29
mparilloBut, that is overkill IMHO if all you will do with the start-up disk is install (as opposed to Live USB with persistence)16:30
designbybeckIn Kubuntu 15.04, I can't press tab to auto complete after sudo16:38
designbybecksudo apt-ad *tab* does nothing16:39
IAmMe643My mic is not recognized.16:43
aethersishi, has any of you used dedicated CUDA driver?17:10
calwigHello17:21
calwigDoes Language Settings translate to Spracheeinstellungen in German?17:22
aethersisI think so17:22
aethersisit's more like speech settings :D17:22
calwigRegionales? (German)17:23
aethersisregional settings, like currency, etc17:25
calwigYes17:25
aethersismetric or imperial units etc17:25
calwigAnd to have multiple keyboard types?17:25
calwigK14.0417:26
calwigDoes K14.04 have an icon on the taskbar to set multiple language types of keyboards?17:26
IAmMe643my microphone is not recognized.17:28
calwigaethersis: I think I have success17:33
aethersiscalwig: I don't even know what you wanted to achieve but I'm glad you did it :D17:35
calwigaethersis: I upgraded to 14.04 from 12 and had an icon to switch keyboards based on language.17:41
calwigaethersis: not all there, but your help is good :)17:44
calwigbrb17:44
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aethersishi, If I installed kubuntu 32 bit, is there an easy way to port it to 64 bit or would it be a better idea to reinstall everything?18:58
aethersisthis is a fresh installation18:58
lordievaderaethersis: In Debian/Ubuntu it is near impossible without a reinstall. In Gentoo it is possible, but not something you want to do.19:03
aethersisoh darn it19:03
aethersisok, I will reinstall everything :/19:03
lordievaderIt involves recompiling everything on your system.19:03
geniilordievader: It's possible to do although more time consuming than just reinstalling.19:10
lordievadergenii: How?19:40
geniilordievader: Basically, simplified: dpkg --add-architecture amd64 (or x86_64 now, I think)    then make a list of all installed packages to a file, then sudo apt-get install --reinstall all of them19:43
al8989hello i have a question. i have usb wireless network adapter based off the realtek RTL8187B chipset and it works with my ubuntu 14.04 installation, but it radomly disconnects and i have to keep reconnecting to my wireless network which is annoying is there any solution to stop the wireless adapter from randomly disconnecting?20:01
EvilRoey<al8989> hello i have a question. i have usb wireless network adapter based off the realtek RTL8187B chipset and it works with my ubuntu 14.04 installation, but it radomly disconnects and i have to keep reconnecting to my wireless network which is annoying is there any solution to stop the wireless adapter from randomly disconnecting?20:04
EvilRoeyBluesKaj:   o/ hi20:04
al8989i have another lptop that has kubuntu 14.04 and it it connects wirelessly to the same router and it never disconnects unless i tell it to20:12
al8989so i know its nnot the router20:12
al8989or my internet20:13
geniiSome of those Realtek wifi adapters run off the USB bus. Does it show up under lspci or does it show up under lsusb ?20:13
geniiIf USB then it disconnects when the USB goes into power saving mode20:14
al8989how do i access the lusb, sudo lusb?20:15
geniiYes, but not sudo lusb, sudo lsusb20:15
al8989ok20:15
al8989it showed up under lsusb20:20
al8989is there away to stop the usb from goign into power savign mode?20:21
geniial8989: OK, so the USB auto suspend is the problem. To fix it: sudo nano /etc/default/grub     and add the line:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="usbcore.autosuspend=-1"    , save the file. Then:  sudo update-grub20:22
geniictrl-x from in nano when ready to save and exit20:22
al8989ok cool let me try that20:22
geniial8989: It will take effect next time you boot20:23
al8989it was annoying the other people whousehte computers who re not as savy as me with computers20:25
al8989and the windows 7 that used to be on the pc never had that problem20:26
geniiThe wifi driver probably has it built-in to disable powersaving on it when connected20:26
al8989oki did what you said to do it game an error saying setting time to zero no longer supported20:31
geniial8989: Please pastebin the contents of /etc/default/grub20:33
geniiIt should be -1  ( negative one) and not zero20:33
al8989i did do negative -120:35
al8989it said zero or negativenumber20:36
al8989it said zero or negative number20:36
al8989the exact error message is setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT isset is no longer supported20:41
geniial8989: Something must have changed recently, this used to work :-/20:41
geniial8989: Ah, well, change the timeout then20:41
al8989change it to what20:41
geniial8989: Just put a # in front20:42
al8989in front of which one20:42
al8989grub_timeout or grub_hidden_timeout20:42
geniial8989: At the beginning of the line which says:  GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=020:42
al8989ok20:42
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MichaelPPlasma 5 and chromium browser does not get alomg20:46
MichaelPalong20:46
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aethersishi, is it possible to change default window background which is gray?20:53
aethersisI don't mean the taskbar, I mean the inside of a window20:53
[Relic]like changing the color scheme?20:54
aethersisI don't know20:54
al8989ok i genii i did that # thing and got no error message this time20:55
aethersisI want to change the inside of a window from gray to black or something20:55
aethersisi.e. in firefox, the background right below the taskbar is gray20:55
geniial8989: Excellent :) After next boot the wifi should stay on20:55
aethersisand so is the background of all apps and I want to know if it's possible to change it to black20:55
aethersisor any other colour20:56
al8989my computer never actually sleeps jsut the monitors goes off20:56
[Relic]does the monitor comeback later?  :)20:56
al8989yes it does20:56
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al8989was just addign that into my talk about my network adapters pwoersavign mode not being right20:57
aethersis_hi is it possible to change application background from gray to another colour?20:57
aethersishah wth, I asked it on freenode and it redirects here? @,@20:57
aethersisspooky20:58
[Relic]this is freenode20:58
aethersisoh XD20:58
aethersis_something is bugged then20:58
aethersis_anyway is it possible?20:58
[Relic]settings -> system settings -> color -> color tab   <-- that what you are looking for?20:58
aethersis_color is in hardware?20:59
[Relic]should be at the top in appearance20:59
al8989also wantedto say geniithat i can nowsee the windows computers on my network which i was unable to see beforefro mkubuntu20:59
_DarkSide_#brasil20:59
aethersis_[Relic]: http://postimg.org/image/d5hyz9scd/21:01
aethersis_the thing I have marked?21:02
[Relic]that looks like it21:03
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aethersis_and what should I choose there21:03
aethersis_I don't want to change color scheme from sRGB to something else21:04
aethersis_I want to change window background21:04
[Relic]not sure I upgraded from a previous version so mine looks like this ->  http://imgur.com/IFOVaNn21:05
aethersis_ohhh that's exactly what I'm looking for!21:07
[Relic]for me it is colors then the 3rd tab as you can see21:07
eXistenZehey again21:08
eXistenZelordievader: you there?21:08
eXistenZeCan anyone help me? I have a partition (sda3) I want to mount in a root folder (vm, already exists) and keep an auto-mount setting21:10
eXistenZekde partition manager does not work for that21:10
eXistenZeis fstab the only way?21:11
EtriaphKDE partition manager is for creating and formatting partitions only.21:13
EtriaphYou'd have to make an entry to fstab if you expect it to auto-mount it.21:13
eXistenZeok... gonna search a tut for that21:15
=== jayhunold is now known as jhunold
eXistenZeHey guys. Need help again.21:46
eXistenZeI have sda3 mounted in /vm through fstab21:46
eXistenZehowever it is owned by root so I can not free use without taking ownership each time21:47
eXistenZehow can I change this?21:47
eXistenZeis chown safe?21:48
eXistenZeguess it's way past midnigth for most people21:54
al8989hello i am having trouble viewing windowsshares on kubuntu when i click network and than workgroup it showsa lsit of my windows computers but when i choose one it shows no fiels or folders and says server timeout any suggestions?22:55

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