=== Aerides is now known as Aeon === Aeon is now known as Aerides === Aerides is now known as Aion === Aion is now known as Aerides === Aerides is now known as Aeon === Guest24375 is now known as thelionroars === Malsasa is now known as Guest73312 === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [08:07] Good morning. === Malsasa is now known as Guest62445 === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa === daniele is now known as Guest12902 === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [09:10] Hey guys [09:11] o/ [09:11] I have my SSD partitioned in 3 (root, free and swap). I don't need a specific mount point on the free partition, but I need it mounted (/media is ok). However when I mount it it's write protected. [09:12] How can I fix this? [09:12] eXistenZe: Who owns the mount? [09:12] who what? [09:13] Since it's not on an auto mount flag (nor on a specific mount path), I guess my user... [09:17] eXistenZe: You mount it somewhere, who owns that mount. [09:18] I just click on the partition in dolphin and it mounts on /media [09:19] eXistenZe: What is the output of 'ls -l /' after it is mounted? [09:19] !paste | eXistenZe [09:19] eXistenZe: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [09:20] . [09:20] Not on my laptop. I'll try it when I get home and post [09:20] Thank you === mariscal is now known as Kalashnik0v [09:23] Comentario en español aleatorio [09:24] !spanish | Kalashnik0v [09:24] Kalashnik0v: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [09:27] it would be sooo nice if the complete desktop (pre)configuration could be scriptable. not only install widget/activities, but if they are shown by default and in which part. or perhaps i do not find the right documentation for it. [09:29] i have a script, which deactivates the networkmanager in the case that it is not seen as default in the tray (but one can activate it). but now, i have to add another script on top, that shall add it into the systray under certain circumstances.. and it should work with configurations where it is not enabled. === Kalashnik0v is now known as Corona === Corona is now known as mariscal_ === mariscal_ is now known as Corona [09:43] hi [09:44] o/ [09:49] #Ubuntu-es [09:51] What user-folders (like /home) can be mounted to a partition? I already have /home set to my second disk, but needed another one for a third partition... [09:52] eXistenZe: What do you mean? You can mount a partition anywhere you like. [09:52] Can I mount a partition in a root folder with whatever name I give it? [09:53] If the folder exists, yes. [09:54] And you need to have the rights to do so. [09:55] And if it does not exist? [09:55] Then you need to create it first. [09:56] I can create root folders with konsole? [09:56] eXistenZe: If you have to rights to do so, yes. [09:56] I though the root structure was kind of static [09:58] By "rights" you mean sudo, right? [09:59] That depends, if you own the folder you already have all the rights to create subfolders within that folder. However if the folder is owned by root, then yes you need sudo. [09:59] Then I should have access to everything, right? [10:00] With sudo? Yes. [10:04] Has anyone noticed that the kde partition manager is missing the "Ok/Cancel buttons" in partition mount edit and becomes useless fot that? === emil is now known as Guest29855 === Guest29855 is now known as oneplusfive [10:29] guess not [10:35] eXistenZe: Please file a bug against it. [11:15] lordievader: way too much info for the first couple days... how do you file bugs? [11:15] !bug [11:15] If you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers. [11:15] Hmm, though this should be reported at http://bug.kde.org [11:17] Do these devs hang around any # ? [11:18] eXistenZe: I suppose in #kde-dev, or #plasma. [11:19] yesterday plasma gave me the stupid black screen on login bug... Had to delete the config file with konsole [11:19] is kubuntu v15 unstable yet? [11:20] Here it has been rather stable. [11:23] I found several reports on this bug. [11:27] eXistenZe: Then confirm one of the reports. [11:44] Howdy folks [12:01] hum... guess I do not have enough juice to run win7 on virtualbox... [12:01] Way to slow [12:01] eXistenZe: Try KVM ;) [12:01] waayyy to complicated for me [12:01] how do you even install it? [12:02] I didn't find any tut for it [12:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM [12:03] First hit in google... [12:04] I swear I did google it [12:04] and it pointed to kve site with outdated info [12:05] Does it have a native gui or do we need an extra package for that? [12:05] eXistenZe: Virt-manager is probably mentioned somewhere. [12:05] Else, virt-manager ;) [12:09] <__dan__> eXistenZe: did you install the additions? [12:12] the what? [12:13] The Vbox additions. [12:14] eXistenZe: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.3.28/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.3.28-100309.vbox-extpack [12:14] That would improve performance? [12:15] <__dan__> lol big time [12:15] <__dan__> lordievader: thats not it [12:15] <__dan__> there should be an option in the GUI to install [12:16] Meh, its vb... Slow anyways. [12:17] <__dan__> yeah start the VM, go to devices menu, at the bottom of that menu you should see Install Guest Additions CD Image [12:18] <__dan__> all it does is mount the ISO to your virtual CD drive, you gotta install the stuff on that CD from within your Windows guest [12:18] Soooo... KVM or vbox? Honestly [12:18] My rig is a 6year old laptop [12:18] <__dan__> once the drivers and stuff are installed, reboot and the performance should be much better [12:18] <__dan__> also you get fancy stuff like shared clipboard / shared folders etc [12:19] <__dan__> dynamic resize of window to guest resolution [12:20] <__dan__> (although I tried that with a 15.04 alpha and Plasma blew up spectacularly) [12:20] * __dan__ has run VirtualBox on worse [12:20] qemu-kvm is good combo , worked well here (fast) on W7 as guest except for networking to other windows machines on my network , however I probly could have solved the problem with more patience [12:21] <__dan__> off the top of my head I would suspect VirtualBox to be better performing than qemu [12:21] <__dan__> once you put the additions on, it's really quite usable === Malsasa is now known as Guest99038 === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [12:21] <__dan__> until then it drags it's heels [12:21] well it's not as fast [12:22] eXistenZe: If your cpu and kernel supports KVM, KVM without a doubt. Else it doesn't really matter both will be slow. [12:22] __dan__: No, qemu with kvm is much faster than VB. KVM has near bare metal performance. [12:23] <__dan__> qemu with kvm?? [12:23] __dan__: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_haswell_virtualization&num=2 [12:23] Qemu without kvm is slow. [12:24] * __dan__ doesn't see the word qemu on that page [12:25] <__dan__> as I understood it, qemu and kvm are totally different technologies [12:25] __dan__: KVM is usually mentioned in one breath with Qemu. [12:25] KVM is the hypervisor, Qemu is the actual emulator. [12:25] However if Qemu can make use of the KVM extension in the kernel it greatly enhances the performance of Qemu. [12:26] lordievader: it's a T9400 with virtualization [12:26] <__dan__> ahhh i see, just reading this now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QEMU [12:27] <__dan__> last i looked at qemu it wasnt doing any of this stuff [12:27] * eXistenZe will be right back [12:28] eXistenZe: What is the output of 'kvm-ok'? [12:29] You might need to install the cpu-checket package for that command. [12:31] <__dan__> guy already has vbox installed and running [12:31] <__dan__> install the additions, have a nice day [12:31] <__dan__> he's using it for ms office, thats all [12:32] <__dan__> not worth another day of bashing his head against the keyboard for the sake of 10% performance or whatever [12:33] I'm just answering his questions. [12:33] What ever he does is his own desicion. [12:34] <__dan__> agreed, but come on dude, you could be a KVM salesman :P [12:35] That is only because KVM is awesome. [12:35] <__dan__> granted at the end of the day we can only talk about what we know, and personally I know VirtualBox and LXC, bit of VMWare here and there [12:35] <__dan__> lol [12:35] VirtualBox is owned by Oracle... Case in point. [12:36] <__dan__> I'm with you as far as not liking Oracle, but they seem to have left VirtualBox alone for the most part [12:36] <__dan__> for, shall we say, casual virtualisation, especially Windows guests, it's hard to beat [12:37] <__dan__> VMWare is better performance-wise, their graphics stack is apparently far better, but what do you need for Office anyway? [12:37] <__dan__> beyond that, emulating a full PC isn't always the best idea anyway [12:38] * lordievader runs Lightroom/Photoshop in KVM. [12:38] <__dan__> yeah I have no idea what the graphics drivers are like under KVM [12:39] <__dan__> although I'd be surprised if it was a top priority for them === pandabear is now known as aracele [12:39] * BluesKaj agrees with lordievader on this issue, KVM rocks especailly with qemu [12:40] <__dan__> I'm not trying to dispute that, I'm sure it's great, it's used all over the place and is clearly rock-solid, but it's horses for courses innit [12:41] <__dan__> would I run a server farm full of VPS machines on it? or p2v a bunch of old machines for a company's server room? yeah probably ... would I advise one guy who is clearly out of his depth to run it just so he can have MS Office? no, probably not [12:42] <__dan__> but then I haven't tinkered with the graphical front-ends for it either ... [12:43] <__dan__> and as far as Oracle goes, how many you guys run mysql? :P [12:43] <__dan__> (+10 internet points for the first smartass that says MariaDB :P) [12:44] <__dan__> eheh [12:46] a lot of us are home users , no need for a db [12:47] <__dan__> show me a youtube clip of someone setting up KVM as easy as VirtualBox with a nice GUI, better performance, and fancy stuff like shared clipboard (the usefulness of which cannot be overstated) and I'll hold my hands up [12:48] <__dan__> lol *cough* akonadi [12:49] find it yourself ..like I said no need for akonadi either :-) [12:50] <__dan__> easy tiger, just pointing out KVM is not the best for every case [12:51] <__dan__> and yeah I don't have any need for akonadi either but that doesn't stop the bloody thing firing up every time i boot :/ [12:51] <__dan__> I still gotta fix that ... [12:55] for home users it's probly the best choice, you can disable akonadi in startup & shutdown>desktop seessions by entering it in the field below "Applications to be excluded from...." [12:56] <__dan__> I start with an empty session every time, it still fires up, are you sure that will work? [12:57] <__dan__> and as far as home users go, maybe worth suggesting a nice GUI, I found a Qt-based one when this question came up but already forgot the name of it [12:58] it works here afaik , check with system monitor [13:00] <__dan__> what do I put in the text box, just akonadi ? [13:00] yeah, or akonadi-server [13:01] <__dan__> what's the separator, space or comma etc? [13:01] <__dan__> may as well put akonadi,akonadi-server,korgac [13:02] <__dan__> nvm, it's comma [13:02] comma and space if you have another app to prevent loading at startup [13:03] <__dan__> thx bud just rebooting now [13:05] <__dan__> nah, no go :/ [13:05] akonadi doesn't use a lot of resources by itself [13:05] how are you checking? [13:06] <__dan__> ps aux [13:08] <__dan__> on my machine the akonadi stuff and mysql take up 848MB RSS [13:09] <__dan__> which quite frankly is ridiculous [13:10] <__dan__> after login with 1 konsole open my used RAM is 1.0GB (w/o buffers) [13:10] akonadictl stop [13:10] <__dan__> ya i do that every login haha [13:11] akonadi doesn't use much resources afaik [13:11] <__dan__> after I'm down to 817MB so clearly there is some shared but still ... [13:11] I don't see it in system monitor when i type it in the search field [13:11] <__dan__> 200 meg ram for a system I didn't ask for, that performs no actual function on this machine, that's crazy [13:12] __dan__: Refering to the graphics thing, if you have two cards you can give one to a vm ;) [13:12] <__dan__> and really doesn't help the commonly held belief that KDE is heavy === kubuntu is now known as Guest49102 [13:13] <__dan__> lordievader: if you have a spare graphics card in your machine to give to a VM, and furthermore, VT-d support on your CPU, I would hazard a guess that you are not a typical user [13:13] __dan__: Perhaps, does that matter? [13:13] <__dan__> yes, yes i think it does [13:13] __dan__: Virt-manager is easy... [13:14] <__dan__> ok bud [13:14] Just a wizard, click a couple of times next and done. [13:14] Or if you really want easy, openstack. Just deploy static images. [13:15] <__dan__> bahahaha [13:15] <__dan__> no comment [13:43] __dan__: er, hi, fancy seeing you ehre [13:43] didn't we meet in ##kubuntu-offtopic? [13:43] hey all o/ [13:43] lordievader, BluesKaj [13:45] hwy EvilRoey [13:45] err hey :-) [13:45] <__dan__> hehe ya EvilRoey hi :) [13:47] Hey EvilRoey === Malsasa is now known as Guest1836 === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [14:07] hello everyone I just installed kubuntu on one of my PC's and love it like I o on my other PC's that have it, but my wireless network adapter keeps disconnecting after a while and I have to reconnect it, when this computer ran windows 7 it never did that the wireless adapter always stayed connected any suggestions? [14:08] <__dan__> henry8989: glad to hear you're liking it :) which version of Kubuntu did you install? and have you run all your updates? [14:14] 14.04 is what I installed and it works like all day long bu then disconnect after like 10 hours or so or like when I went to the computer it and the wifi was disconnected even thought I left it on all night [14:15] <__dan__> my instant reaction is to suspect some kind of power management [14:16] I was the one asking about the nvida geforce 6150 graphics the other day in here and and I have to report they work perfectly with kubuntu unlike regular ubuntu [14:16] <__dan__> ahhh yeah i remember now [14:16] thats what i was figuring bu did not know where to go for the power management of of the wifi card [14:17] <__dan__> fantastic news, I wasnt sure it would work (because computers), but I knew that theoretically it should, and as you would be using the same class of drivers as me, figured it was worth a shot :) [14:17] <__dan__> you could try this command in a konsole [14:17] <__dan__> sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off [14:17] yes it worked but i sitll wnat to know why it jsut goes to black screen on regular ubuntu 14.04 [14:18] <__dan__> that sets your wireless to disable power saving, on this machine though, the driver doesn't support that, maybe it will on yours though [14:20] <__dan__> if the command doesn't come back with any error, that's set your wireless card to disable power management, see how you get on with that === basse is now known as Guest16146 [14:20] <__dan__> the setting is only active for your current session, if you reboot it should change back to default, so if you have any issues with the wireless after you run that command, just reboot [14:21] <__dan__> also if your machine goes into sleep mode etc the setting may return to default also [14:25] ok let me see what that does [14:27] it says operation not supported [14:28] <__dan__> yeah same here :( some you can, some you can't [14:29] <__dan__> maybe worth finding out which wireless card you have, and doing a bit of google-fu [14:34] sudo iw list probably tells you ;) [14:39] its an encore enuwi-g2 it says wiphy phy2 and then list all the speeds at which it operates and such whe ni run that command [14:43] <__dan__> for google searching it will be useful to know the driver name [14:43] <__dan__> try this [14:43] <__dan__> grep wlan /var/log/syslog [14:44] <__dan__> you should see something like this: NetworkManager[946]: (wlan0): new 802.11 WiFi device (driver: 'ath5k' ifindex: 3) [14:44] <__dan__> that's from my machine, it uses a wireless card that needs the "ath5k" driver [14:44] <__dan__> may help if you put that in your search [14:53] its a RTL8187B chipset card [14:54] <__dan__> yeah realtek in my experience are not synonomous with quality but have a search and see if you can find anything [15:11] <__dan__> henry8989: just occured to me to point out, don't limit your search to just kubuntu, the problem you're seeing is almost certainly common to all variants of Ubuntu and probably across all distributions of Linux [15:22] oh yes i figure that i would have to use ubuntu [15:22] in my search [15:22] <__dan__> ok cool just thought i would mention [15:22] <__dan__> good luck :) [15:34] Hey... [15:34] No activity here? [15:34] Is there a jokes bot? [15:36] eXistenZe: No, there is no jokes bot here. [15:37] !joke [15:37] You might think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users who follow your advice or irritate people who attempt to answer your question. [15:38] the bot has no sense of humour...yet [15:43] Gotta improve that [15:49] Is there some kind of cortana assistant for linux? [15:52] Specially one with access to unix and kubuntu faqs for easy "how do I ..." [15:53] If possible with a pole and some swing animations also [16:01] I could beta test if anyone wants to make one... === zima is now known as gemme [16:16] before making start up disk, should i format usb stick fat 32 or ext2 or something else ? [16:18] hi -not sure this is really a #kubuntu question... [16:19] but - if I mtr a target and there is say 1 packet lost - if I leave it running for hours would I be able to see which hop the packet loss occured [16:25] krise: This seems to recommend FAT: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick [16:27] So does this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB Installation Media [16:29] Here they offer another way with one FAT partition and the other EXTx. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Method_0:_Automatically_create_Live_USB_system [16:30] But, that is overkill IMHO if all you will do with the start-up disk is install (as opposed to Live USB with persistence) [16:38] In Kubuntu 15.04, I can't press tab to auto complete after sudo [16:39] sudo apt-ad *tab* does nothing [16:43] My mic is not recognized. [17:10] hi, has any of you used dedicated CUDA driver? [17:21] Hello [17:22] Does Language Settings translate to Spracheeinstellungen in German? [17:22] I think so [17:22] it's more like speech settings :D [17:23] Regionales? (German) [17:25] regional settings, like currency, etc [17:25] Yes [17:25] metric or imperial units etc [17:25] And to have multiple keyboard types? [17:26] K14.04 [17:26] Does K14.04 have an icon on the taskbar to set multiple language types of keyboards? [17:28] my microphone is not recognized. [17:33] aethersis: I think I have success [17:35] calwig: I don't even know what you wanted to achieve but I'm glad you did it :D [17:41] aethersis: I upgraded to 14.04 from 12 and had an icon to switch keyboards based on language. [17:44] aethersis: not all there, but your help is good :) [17:44] brb === aaron is now known as Guest32281 === Guest32281 is now known as ahoneybun [18:58] hi, If I installed kubuntu 32 bit, is there an easy way to port it to 64 bit or would it be a better idea to reinstall everything? [18:58] this is a fresh installation [19:03] aethersis: In Debian/Ubuntu it is near impossible without a reinstall. In Gentoo it is possible, but not something you want to do. [19:03] oh darn it [19:03] ok, I will reinstall everything :/ [19:03] It involves recompiling everything on your system. [19:10] lordievader: It's possible to do although more time consuming than just reinstalling. [19:40] genii: How? [19:43] lordievader: Basically, simplified: dpkg --add-architecture amd64 (or x86_64 now, I think) then make a list of all installed packages to a file, then sudo apt-get install --reinstall all of them [20:01] hello i have a question. i have usb wireless network adapter based off the realtek RTL8187B chipset and it works with my ubuntu 14.04 installation, but it radomly disconnects and i have to keep reconnecting to my wireless network which is annoying is there any solution to stop the wireless adapter from randomly disconnecting? [20:04] hello i have a question. i have usb wireless network adapter based off the realtek RTL8187B chipset and it works with my ubuntu 14.04 installation, but it radomly disconnects and i have to keep reconnecting to my wireless network which is annoying is there any solution to stop the wireless adapter from randomly disconnecting? [20:04] BluesKaj: o/ hi [20:12] i have another lptop that has kubuntu 14.04 and it it connects wirelessly to the same router and it never disconnects unless i tell it to [20:12] so i know its nnot the router [20:13] or my internet [20:13] Some of those Realtek wifi adapters run off the USB bus. Does it show up under lspci or does it show up under lsusb ? [20:14] If USB then it disconnects when the USB goes into power saving mode [20:15] how do i access the lusb, sudo lusb? [20:15] Yes, but not sudo lusb, sudo lsusb [20:15] ok [20:20] it showed up under lsusb [20:21] is there away to stop the usb from goign into power savign mode? [20:22] al8989: OK, so the USB auto suspend is the problem. To fix it: sudo nano /etc/default/grub and add the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="usbcore.autosuspend=-1" , save the file. Then: sudo update-grub [20:22] ctrl-x from in nano when ready to save and exit [20:22] ok cool let me try that [20:23] al8989: It will take effect next time you boot [20:25] it was annoying the other people whousehte computers who re not as savy as me with computers [20:26] and the windows 7 that used to be on the pc never had that problem [20:26] The wifi driver probably has it built-in to disable powersaving on it when connected [20:31] oki did what you said to do it game an error saying setting time to zero no longer supported [20:33] al8989: Please pastebin the contents of /etc/default/grub [20:33] It should be -1 ( negative one) and not zero [20:35] i did do negative -1 [20:36] it said zero or negativenumber [20:36] it said zero or negative number [20:41] the exact error message is setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT isset is no longer supported [20:41] al8989: Something must have changed recently, this used to work :-/ [20:41] al8989: Ah, well, change the timeout then [20:41] change it to what [20:42] al8989: Just put a # in front [20:42] in front of which one [20:42] grub_timeout or grub_hidden_timeout [20:42] al8989: At the beginning of the line which says: GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 [20:42] ok === andrea is now known as Guest17306 [20:46] Plasma 5 and chromium browser does not get alomg [20:46] along === Guest17306 is now known as VLanX [20:53] hi, is it possible to change default window background which is gray? [20:53] I don't mean the taskbar, I mean the inside of a window [20:54] <[Relic]> like changing the color scheme? [20:54] I don't know [20:55] ok i genii i did that # thing and got no error message this time [20:55] I want to change the inside of a window from gray to black or something [20:55] i.e. in firefox, the background right below the taskbar is gray [20:55] al8989: Excellent :) After next boot the wifi should stay on [20:55] and so is the background of all apps and I want to know if it's possible to change it to black [20:56] or any other colour [20:56] my computer never actually sleeps jsut the monitors goes off [20:56] <[Relic]> does the monitor comeback later? :) [20:56] yes it does === fabio is now known as _DarkSide_ [20:57] was just addign that into my talk about my network adapters pwoersavign mode not being right [20:57] hi is it possible to change application background from gray to another colour? [20:57] hah wth, I asked it on freenode and it redirects here? @,@ [20:58] spooky [20:58] <[Relic]> this is freenode [20:58] oh XD [20:58] something is bugged then [20:58] anyway is it possible? [20:58] <[Relic]> settings -> system settings -> color -> color tab <-- that what you are looking for? [20:59] color is in hardware? [20:59] <[Relic]> should be at the top in appearance [20:59] also wantedto say geniithat i can nowsee the windows computers on my network which i was unable to see beforefro mkubuntu [20:59] <_DarkSide_> #brasil [21:01] [Relic]: http://postimg.org/image/d5hyz9scd/ [21:02] the thing I have marked? [21:03] <[Relic]> that looks like it === fabio is now known as _DarkSide_ [21:03] and what should I choose there [21:04] I don't want to change color scheme from sRGB to something else [21:04] I want to change window background [21:05] <[Relic]> not sure I upgraded from a previous version so mine looks like this -> http://imgur.com/IFOVaNn [21:07] ohhh that's exactly what I'm looking for! [21:07] <[Relic]> for me it is colors then the 3rd tab as you can see [21:08] hey again [21:08] lordievader: you there? [21:10] Can anyone help me? I have a partition (sda3) I want to mount in a root folder (vm, already exists) and keep an auto-mount setting [21:10] kde partition manager does not work for that [21:11] is fstab the only way? [21:13] KDE partition manager is for creating and formatting partitions only. [21:13] You'd have to make an entry to fstab if you expect it to auto-mount it. [21:15] ok... gonna search a tut for that === jayhunold is now known as jhunold [21:46] Hey guys. Need help again. [21:46] I have sda3 mounted in /vm through fstab [21:47] however it is owned by root so I can not free use without taking ownership each time [21:47] how can I change this? [21:48] is chown safe? [21:54] guess it's way past midnigth for most people [22:55] hello i am having trouble viewing windowsshares on kubuntu when i click network and than workgroup it showsa lsit of my windows computers but when i choose one it shows no fiels or folders and says server timeout any suggestions?