[04:39] <plars> cyphermox: I have found at least part of the problem, and I got a run of amd64 to pass. It doesn't seem to work everytime so it's still a little flaky but it's better. I'll try to do some more debugging on it tomorrow or pass it off to the next vanguard
[04:40] <cyphermox> plars: ack
[04:40] <cyphermox> what seems to be the problem?
[04:45] <plars> cyphermox: well, at first I was thinking it was the command used to restart rsyslog - it was using 'restart' rather than 'systemctl restart' as is likely needed by systemd now. But that didn't seem to fix it. I have it trying both now though, and not failing for that alone since we need to support older isos also
[04:46] <plars> cyphermox: part of the problem seems to still be permissions around /dev/ttyS0 though. That was changed a while back and it broke us. So we're adding syslog to the dialout group, setting permissions, etc. It still seems to persistently want to fail in some cases though. I'm not convinced there isn't some other error lurking there either, but I seem to be
[04:46] <plars> able to work around it for now
[04:47] <plars> cyphermox: to be fair, I'm not really convinced of the usefulness of these tests, they are just doing installs with different combinations, and preseed ones at that. There are autopilot tests out there for driving ubiquity through most of these same install scenarios.
[04:48] <plars> that seems like a much better test for the desktop install process to me
[06:05] <infinity> plars: If you want to support both upstart and systemd, what you're looking for is "service $service restart"
[07:48] <abeato> Mirv, any idea why is that ^^ (nuntium not found in archive)
[07:49] <abeato> it is a wily silo, that I was not able to publish before due to a bug in the gccgo powerPC compiler (now apparently fixed)
[08:24] <Mirv> abeato: err
[08:26] <Mirv> abeato: it's a sync silo trying to sync from silo 27, but that is already gone
[08:26] <Mirv> abeato: so it should probably be a sync silo from overlay PPA instead
[08:27] <abeato> Mirv, ah, I see... but there is a package in the PPA
[08:27] <Mirv> abeato: yes, but you're trying to rebuild which would mean trying to sync again
[08:27] <abeato> Mirv, anyway, which is the syntax I should use then?
[08:27] <Mirv> abeato: well I just put it in, reconfiguring now
[08:27] <abeato> ah, just seen, thanks
[08:28] <Laney> fginther: the things you don't know ...
[08:28] <Laney> fginther: Looks like Source can be Source: <source package> (version)
[08:28] <Mirv> the spreadsheet is giving a bit of trouble though again
[08:28] <Mirv> ok, now it orks
[08:29] <Laney> fginther: so do grep-aptavail -e ... "^${SRC}( \(.*\))?$" or something
[08:29] <Laney> fginther: and get rid of -X
[08:29] <Laney> I think that should do it...
[08:29] <Mirv> abeato: reconfigured + started https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-011-1-build/166/console
[08:30] <abeato> Mirv, awesome, thx
[10:03] <Mirv> ogra_: I'm not sure if it went unnoticed, but see http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20150521.changes - GTK2 dropped! :)
[10:04] <seb128> Mirv, do you know what changed to drop it? qt?
[10:04] <Mirv> seb128: "me" :)
[10:04] <Mirv> seb128: I mean, the gtk2 theme support was split into separate package
[10:05] <Mirv> after Debian settled on the way to do it
[10:05] <seb128> Mirv, oh, great :-)
[10:05] <Mirv> that was the easier thing (than dropping gtk3) but also needed to be done
[10:06] <ogra_> Mirv, heh, it actually went unnoticed because when i looked at it i was focused on libgo (which droped about 30MB from the image too)
[10:06] <seb128> right
[10:37] <Laney> how do I delete a package from a landing?
[10:38] <Laney> edit spreadsheet, delete from ppa, watch only build?
[10:43] <Laney> ah "reconfigure"
[11:21] <jibel> tedg, Hey, how can we test the fix in silo 30?
[11:21] <jibel> since it happens on upgrade
[12:00] <popey> fginther: are you mid way through fiddling with jenkins? Is that why this is failing https://code.launchpad.net/~carlos-mazieri/ubuntu-filemanager-app/samba-browsing-11/+merge/252982 ?
[12:03] <fginther> popey, that branch is failing due to bzr conflicts
[12:05] <popey> fginther: hmm
[12:36] <abeato> trainguards, I have changed the target distribution for line 45 (silo 19), how can I reconfigure the silo?
[12:40] <Mirv> abeato: it needs to be freed up and reassigned. if that's ok (you lose the current builds), I can do that.
[12:41] <abeato> Mirv, that's fine, please do
[12:47] <Mirv> pete-woods: needs top approval https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/indicator-network/15.10-fix-unity8-cycle/+merge/260849
[12:48] <Mirv> abeato: ^ 011 the dual silo
[12:48] <abeato> Mirv, awesome, thx
[12:49] <pete-woods> Mirv: fixed them both
[12:49] <pete-woods> sorry about that
[12:49] <Mirv> pete-woods: np
[13:07] <jibel> charles, is silo 46 ready?
[13:10] <tedg> jibel, Honestly, I'm not sure.
[13:10] <tedg> jibel, In theory just upgrading the package and rebooting should be the same.
[13:10] <tedg> jibel, Then installing a new version of an app
[13:18] <jibel> tedg, installing the silo on an upgraded device that shows duplicate icons would work?
[13:19] <tedg> jibel, No, you'd have to install or remove an application as well in that case.
[13:20] <jibel> ok
[13:21] <tedg> jibel, My concern with this bug is that it was vivid for two months and no one saw anything. I think we've fixed a bug, but I'm not sure it's *the* bug. I'm not sure there's much we can do with the silo, but I do think that on the next image we need to really flag this to watch out for.
[13:40] <pmcgowan> jibel, silo 46 wfm, mind giving it a go
[13:40] <pmcgowan> tedg, any leads on that dupe/missing icon thing
[13:41] <jibel> pmcgowan, works for me too, I was waiting for charles to confirm that it's ready to land
[13:41] <pmcgowan> great
[13:41] <tedg> pmcgowan, silo 30
[13:41] <pmcgowan> nice
[13:41] <pmcgowan> tedg, how to test it?
[13:42] <jibel> pmcgowan, om26er_ is verifying silo 30 but it is not clear how to test it without building an image
[13:42] <tedg> pmcgowan, You basically need to install the silo and upgrade/remove an app. But… yeah, what jibel said.
[13:42] <pmcgowan> ok will wait for omer then
[13:43] <tedg> pmcgowan, My big concern is that no one saw this in vivid for two months. So it makes me a bit worried about it.
[13:43] <tedg> I don't think everyone running vivid is wiping or something like that.
[13:44] <pmcgowan> yeah we install and update
[13:44] <pmcgowan> tedg, I only saw it by reinstalling rtm then vivid afterword
[13:44] <jibel> pmcgowan, bug 1461952 looks serious too
[13:46] <pmcgowan> jibel, yeah let me get them looking at that
[13:46] <pmcgowan> bfiller, ^^
[13:48] <jibel> tedg, what is the risk of regression with silo 30?
[13:50] <tedg> jibel, Software always gets better! ;-)  I think it's pretty low. We're only changing the filters to look at more files. Worst case we delete a user defined desktop file, which is not a "normal user" by any means.
[13:52] <pmcgowan> jibel, for me it doesnt send the group message at all, just says failed
[13:53] <jibel> tedg, so an option would be to confirm that the silo works on OTA4 and doesn't regress anything even if we cannot confirm that it fixes the original upgrade issue, land it, build an image and redo the upgrade test.
[13:53] <tedg> jibel, +1
[13:54] <pmcgowan> iahmad, for that sms bug, does it send to one of the recipients or just Failed?
[14:00] <jibel> for me it doesn't send the SMS either, just 'failed' (untranslated btw) after a several seconds.
[14:01] <charles> jibel, could I get a second pair of eyes on silo 46? It looks strange to me:
[14:01] <charles> jibel, from the dashboard, the MPs look correct. The issue yesterday was a new MP was needed to only pull in the one new icon instead of tiheum's whole suru v2 branch
[14:03] <charles> jibel, but if you look at the diff file in 46's PPA it looks like that build still pulled in all of suru v2
[14:04] <charles> my guess is that this is a CI issue and wouldn't affect the actual landing, but would like a second opinion...
[14:07] <iahmad> pmcgowan, just failed
[14:07] <pmcgowan> ack
[14:08] <jibel> Mirv, ^^ any idea about charles question, why the diff in the PPA is not the same than the diff in the MP and in jenkins?
[14:08] <dobey> sounds like that silo needs reconfigured
[14:09] <dobey> and then rebuilt
[14:11] <om26er_> tedg, so I downgraded to last promoted image, upgraded through system-image-cli to proposed and then install the silo packages and rebooted.
[14:11] <om26er_> I no longer see duplicate packages. tedg is that expected ?
[14:12] <tedg> om26er_, It's possible. It would happen anytime the click hook is run. Installing a package is how you could guarantee that, but there are other reasons they'd run.
[14:12] <tedg> om26er_, So that's why I suggest installing an app, just to be sure they were run.
[14:13] <om26er_> tedg, I was not able to find the changelog. How "dangerous" is this silo ?
[14:14] <tedg> om26er_, pansy. Sure one could kill you but it'd have to be frozen and thrown at high speed.
[14:14] <om26er_> "this" :)
[14:15] <Mirv> jibel: diff in the PPA may be diff to the previous version that happened to be in the PPA, not the actual diff. that's why we have the jenkins generating the diff in the first place, since PPA/LP can't be trusted on providing a correct diff.
[14:17] <Mirv> charles: jibel: not opening that 13MB diff but maybe the diff is from the previous build that included the wrong things, so the diff shows how it's reverted again? the jenkins diff shows the actual diff from archive version.
[14:18] <Mirv> so the jenkins generated https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-046-1-build/5/artifact/ubuntu-themes_content.diff is the real diff
[14:21] <jibel> charles, the actual debdiff with the version in the PPA and the version on the phone is http://paste.ubuntu.com/11566558/
[14:23] <jibel> charles, there is a change for gtk-3.0 and the rest if the green icon
[14:25] <jibel> no sure why it is slightly different from jenkins though
[14:30] <balloons> fginther, confirming for myself and perhaps popey . We'll be shutting off the AP tests for now on core apps, yes?
[14:31] <fginther> balloons, yes
[14:31] <balloons> ty.
[14:34] <renatu> balloons, I got approval from rsalveti on silo 16. Can we land it?
[14:36] <charles> jibel, excellent, thanks for looking at that
[14:36] <charles> Mirv, thanks :-)
[14:37] <charles> jibel, pmcgowan, then IMO silo 46 is ready for QA signoff wrt card https://trello.com/c/JXxJRGIt/1753-ubuntu-landing-046-unity8-ubuntu-themes-renatu-charles
[14:38] <pmcgowan> charles, sorry it was so much trouble
[14:39] <charles> pmcgowan, sorry it didn't land yesterday as it should have; I should have started off with a cherrypicked suru MP
[14:44] <rvr> awe: I attached the syslog
[14:44] <om26er_> tedg, so what else should I be testing? Can you help ?
[14:45] <awe> rvr, thanks much!
[14:45] <tedg> om26er_, There's not a lot more, really all it does is change the hook that creates the desktop files.
[14:45] <tedg> om26er_, If you look at ~/.local/share/applications things should look "right"
[14:45] <tedg> om26er_, i.e. no duplicate apps or apps missing.
[14:51] <jibel> om26er_, maybe additionally install and remove an app to check if icons are added/removed and there is not much else we can do
[14:54] <jibel> charles, can you update column K on the spreadsheet for line 56?
[14:56] <om26er_> jibel, hmm, let me try that as well
[14:56] <om26er_> I was about to approve it
[14:57] <balloons> renatu, perhaps you meant boiko earlier?
[14:57] <jibel> om26er_, unless you find anything else useful to try from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/ubuntu-app-launch it's fine to approve
[14:57] <renatu> balloons, boiko is off for the rest of the week
[14:59] <fginther> Laney, thanks for the help. That should help get gtk-3.0 unwedged
[15:11] <pmcgowan> jibel, can you get the content of .cache/upstart/nuntium.log
[15:13] <jibel> pmcgowan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567396/
[15:14] <pmcgowan> jibel, yeah same as here
[15:15] <pmcgowan> wait yours is diff
[15:15] <jibel> pmcgowan, are group sms sent as mms?
[15:15] <pmcgowan> jibel, yes, seems no mms is working on krillin
[15:16] <jibel> pmcgowan, ah it might fail because wifi is on
[15:16] <pmcgowan> oh
[15:16] <pmcgowan> still fails
[15:17] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, see his paste
[15:17] <jibel> pmcgowan, I can send with wifi off
[15:18] <jibel> it's confusing
[15:18] <pmcgowan> really
[15:18] <kenvandine> oh... there was a fix for sending with wifi on just recently
[15:18] <kenvandine> abeato, ^^
[15:18] <jibel> bug 1417976
[15:19] <abeato> jibel, which is the output of "ip route" ? which image are you using?
[15:20] <jibel> abeato, with wifi on or off?
[15:20] <abeato> on
[15:20] <charles> jibel, sorry was in meeting, yes will update column K on spreadsheet line 56
[15:20] <jibel> abeato, I'm using rc-proosed/bq-aquaris.en #24 aka OTA4
[15:21] <abeato> jibel, also, which is your operator?
[15:22] <jibel> abeato, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567572/
[15:22] <jibel> abeato, Free Mobile
[15:23] <abeato> jibel, cout you paste "cat /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/03mmsproxy" ?
[15:24] <abeato> jibel, and output of execution of /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-contexts
[15:25] <nerochiaro> elopio: hello, i am having different results running a test in autopilot3-sandbox-run and normally. do you know of any known bugs in sandbox-run that might cause this ? the tests have something to do with keyboard shortcuts
[15:25] <nerochiaro> elopio: on webbrowser
[15:28] <jibel> abeato, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567770/ + http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567824/
[15:28] <abeato> cyphermox, awe I remember to have read in some comment in some bug a problem when creating routes in case the proxy was empty in 03mmsproxy
[15:29] <abeato> might be related to jibel 's issue?
[15:29] <abeato> jibel, thanks
[15:29] <jibel> yw
[15:30] <awe> abeato, I don't recall seeing that...
[15:30] <abeato> jibel, one more thing :)... what do you get when doing "grep mmsproxy /var/log/syslog" ?
[15:30] <awe> abeato, did you verify he has the updated mmsproxy dispatcher script?
[15:31] <awe> brb
[15:31] <abeato> awe,yes that's fine, it is not a combined context, but proxy is empty for him
[15:32] <awe> what do you mean by proxy is empty?  No MessageProxy defined in the context?
[15:33] <abeato> awe, right, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567824/
[15:33]  * awe looks
[15:34] <awe> abeato, is the messagecenter hostname resolvable & reachable over the WiFi network?
[15:34] <jibel> abeato, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567902/
[15:35] <abeato> jibel, thanks, it is this issue with the proxy, free does not define it and causes trouble with the routes
[15:35] <abeato> awe ^^
[15:37] <awe> indeed, I bet the mmsproxy script doesn't explicitly check for no proxy?
[15:37] <abeato> yes
[15:37] <awe> anyways, we need to determine (a) is the hostname resolvable over the WiFi network
[15:37] <awe> and (b) is the resulting IP address reachable over the same
[15:38] <awe> it could be that we need addtional routing logic added if there's no MMS proxy defined
[15:38] <abeato> probably it is the case
[15:40] <awe> jibel, can you see if you can resolve the messagecenter hostname when connected to WiFi
[15:40] <awe> ?
[15:40] <awe> and then see if the resulting IP address is reachable?
[15:40] <awe> also, is there a bug for this?
[15:40] <awe> abeato, ^^
[15:40] <abeato> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nuntium/+bug/1417976
[15:40] <awe> right
[15:41] <awe> thanks
[15:41] <awe> abeato, can assign to you?
[15:41] <abeato> indeed
[15:42] <pmcgowan> I think I disconnected, so
 abeato, awe mms is not working for me on AT&T on either arale or krillin
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1461952
[15:42] <awe> pmcgowan, ;(
[15:42] <awe> with ota4?
[15:43] <awe> do you have an active data plan?  maybe they cut you off too!
[15:46] <pmcgowan> awe, heh
[15:46] <pmcgowan> yes ota4
[15:47] <pmcgowan> awe, I get internet
[15:47] <abeato> pmcgowan, please paste ~/.cache/upstart/nuntium.log
[15:48] <pmcgowan> abeato, this is arale http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11567998/
[15:48] <pmcgowan> abeato, this is krillin http://paste.ubuntu.com/11567348/
[15:48] <pmcgowan> same sim
[15:49] <awe> pmcgowan, my data plan is empty; I'm going to check with AT&T, but I can't reproduce while just on mobile data
[15:49] <awe> pmcgowan, in this case, when I try to send the MMS, the messaging-app just continues to show the spinner for the message
[15:50] <awe> I never see it stop and indicate failed
[15:50] <charles> jibel, line 56 marked as tested
[15:50] <awe> also, network-indicator isn't showing me connected to WiFi when I am
[15:50] <awe> ;(-
[15:50] <awe> pmcgowan, do you see the same endless spinner in the messaging-app?
[15:51] <awe> bfiller, do you remember seeing that at the sprint in austin?
[15:52]  * awe my camera seem super-unstable on arale
[15:56] <rvr> Can someone confirm this with image 24? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1461999
[15:58] <jibel> tedg, can you mark column k of line 57 as tested (if it's tested of course) so the silo can publish
[16:00] <tedg> alecu, ^ did you test that silo?
[16:00] <abeato> pmcgowan, you do not have cellular data activated for krillin
[16:00] <abeato> pmcgowan, for the moment we need tht
[16:02] <pmcgowan> abeato, I don't? I can try again in a min
[16:02] <abeato> pmcgowan, the contexts listed in the nuntium log are all inactive
[16:03] <pmcgowan> weird
[16:06] <awe> pmcgowan, can you also dump the output of /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-contexts?
[16:07] <awe> it appears that the apn db update introduced a new APN ( nextgenphone ) for AT&T
[16:07] <awe> you should now see ATT Phone, ATT WAP, and ATT Nextgenphone
[16:07] <awe> the latter fails for me if WiFi is enabled
[16:08] <pmcgowan> abeato, ok basic mms does work there now, so I am confused
[16:08] <pmcgowan> cell data was off as you said
[16:08] <pmcgowan> but group mms still fails
[16:09] <awe> pmcgowan, abeato and I discussed this yesterday; the messaging-app should display an error if mobile-data is off
[16:09] <abeato> pmcgowan, for arale, in your pastebin I see:
[16:09] <abeato> 2015/06/04 15:26:02 m-send.conf ResponseStatus for 6f58b19377ad081d8c67309452ee53c9 is 226
[16:09] <abeato> Error-permanent-message-format-corrupt = <Octet 226>
[16:09] <abeato> pmcgowan, was that when sending a group message?
[16:09] <awe> at least for the short term.  abeato has a proposed auto-enable for MMS, but we need to focus on short-term message stability first and foremost
[16:10] <awe> abeato, does group SMS use MMS under the covers
[16:10] <abeato> yes afaik
[16:10] <awe> I had no input in it's design or impl
[16:13] <pmcgowan> awe, yes group chat needs mms
[16:13] <pmcgowan> abeato, give me a min, on a call
[16:13] <abeato> ok
[16:14] <pmcgowan> abeato, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11568609/
[16:14] <pmcgowan> thats a group send on krillin at&t
[16:17] <abeato> pmcgowan, taking into account that non-group MMS is working, and being error 226 a bad format error, we must be sending something in the payload that att does not like
[16:17] <abeato> pmcgowan, I think the data is prepared by messaging-app
[16:17] <abeato> pmcgowan, nuntium wraps it and sends
[16:20] <jibel> tedg, if alecu is not online can you do it, we really need this fix then rebuild an image
[16:23] <om26er> jibel, tedg approved
[16:24] <jibel> om26er, tedg ah thanks I missed it
[16:24] <jibel> om26er, no it is not
[16:25] <jibel> om26er, line 57
[16:25] <om26er> jibel, yes, says Granted
[16:25] <om26er> jibel, refresh your sheet :p
[16:26] <jibel> om26er, right for QA, but column K is not set to tested
[16:26] <om26er> oh
[16:26] <awe> pmcgowan, I just restored my AT&T SIM, billing error on their end.  I'll retry MMS after lunch
[16:26] <fginther> popey, balloons, music-app and ubuntu-clock-app should now be un-blocked
[16:26]  * popey hugs fginther 
[16:27] <tedg> jibel, I'd really prefer alecu to do it, I think he's probably back soon (and I'm about to head out). He had an upgraded OTA 3.5 device he was going to test it on.
[16:27] <jibel> tedg, ok
[16:27] <tedg> jibel, But if he's gone for longer I can test it after I get this other silo done.
[16:28] <tedg> Not in a clean state right now.
[16:34] <alecu> tedg: I'm back from lunch, I'll give it a try now
[16:37] <alecu> tedg: but it's silo 030 that I should test, right? not 008 as suggested above
[16:44] <renatu> balloons, are you a trainguards? could you release the silo 16?
[16:44] <renatu> I got the ubuntu core dev approval
[16:44] <balloons> renatu, I'm not a trainguard
[16:45] <balloons> trainguards ^^
[16:45] <renatu> balloons, ok sorry :D
[16:47] <balloons> no worries, sorry if I misled you :-)
[17:03] <Mirv> renatu: it needs an archive admin ack for the new binary package and I haven't gotten one on #ubuntu-release. robru can continue to monitor it (and robru MOTU ack on other packaging changes..)
[17:04] <Mirv> (= I ack the other changes)
[17:30] <robru> Mirv: actually with the new dual landing support, it's now possible to change the target series without freeing and reassigning
[17:34] <alecu> tedg: installed silo 030 on my ota-3.5. Then upgraded to ota-4 (with the steps outlined by om26er): I get duplicated icons
[17:35] <alecu> tedg: I suspect this has to do with the ota-4 overwritting stuff from the silo
[17:35] <om26er> alecu, is there a new image ?
[17:35] <alecu> tedg: any hints on how to test this properly?
[17:36] <alecu> om26er: I think there's not. So, the current ota-4 image steps on whatever I installed from the silo
[17:39] <alecu> I'll try installing the silo on top of ota-4, but I still have no clue on how to test it properly.
[17:41] <jibel> alecu, from earlier discussion, I think there is no good way to test it without an image and the best we can do is to ensure the silo doesn't regress anything.
[17:41] <jibel> alecu, 3.5 to 4 is a full image upgrade and the silo will be overwritten
[17:43] <alecu> jibel: right. Then I'm not sure I'm the right person to test this silo; I offered ted help testing this issue, but I've never tested this whole package.
[17:43] <alecu> jibel: I can give it a go if nobody else is around
[17:45] <alecu> jibel, om26er: btw, good news are that installing the silo with the citrain script on top of ota-4 (and rebooting), shows only one copy of each of the icons
[17:46] <om26er> alecu, yeah, thats what I noticed as well
[17:47] <pmcgowan> jibel, so in the end I actually have group chat working on my krillin
[17:50] <jibel> pmcgowan, good, me too with wifi disabled. I suppose the original reporter's issue is also related to MMS configuration.
[17:50] <pmcgowan> jibel, could be, will downgrade severity
[17:51] <jibel> alecu, if you and om26er tested it and didn't find any obvious breakage, it's good to land. what do you think?
[17:52] <jibel> trainguards, can you publish silo 46?
[17:52] <jibel> robru, ^
[17:53] <robru> jibel: done. so that'll be in overlay immediately and wily-proposed shortly
[17:53] <jibel> robru, thanks
[17:54] <robru> jibel: you're welcome
[17:55] <alecu> jibel: sounds good to me. I'm finishing with the test plan for that silo, looking good so far
[17:55] <jibel> alecu, perfect, thanks.
[18:12] <alecu> jibel: the tests from ubuntu-app-launch/security-app-launch are taking forever. The rest is +1
[18:13] <alecu> jibel: and just now they are finished. I'm +1 the silo in the spreadsheet
[18:15] <alecu> jibel: om26er, tedg: ^
[18:37] <alecu> yay!
[18:38] <tedg> Great, thanks alecu!
[18:39] <alecu> tedg: thanks to you, sir
[19:28] <robru> lol, every time
[19:43] <robru> alexabreu: silo 28
[19:44] <alexabreu> robru, thx !
[19:44] <robru> alexabreu: you're welcome!