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yayahello01:22
zombienerdI'm still looking for a workaround to get tethering to work on Mako devel-channel.  If anyone has any info, it would be greatly appreciated.01:28
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OerHeksE5 will be available for purchase on about June 12, across the entire European Union .... nine euros less than the Android version.03:49
nhainesThat's not too shabby.  :D03:52
OerHekshttp://www.zdnet.com/article/a-new-day-a-new-ubuntu-smartphone/03:54
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lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/vision-mobile-developer-census-win-ubuntu-phone06:05
lotuspsychjethats1 for you devs :p06:05
dholbachgood morning07:03
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mptdholbach, good morning, is anything on <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth/TODO> remotely relevant any more, or can I delete the page?07:19
larsugiven that the linked bugs were fixed 7 years ago, I'd say it's safe to delete07:21
dholbachyeah, looks like it07:21
zygabzoltan, Mirv: hi, what is the status of the UITK runtime for 14.04, I read the announcement and I'd like to give it a try08:00
rajcan someone tell me what building this is? https://i.imgur.com/6Otbv9I.png08:50
popeyThat's the walkie talkie08:52
popeyhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2786723/London-skyscraper-Walkie-Talkie-melted-cars-reflecting-sunlight-fitted-shading.html08:52
popey:)08:52
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Hug Your Cat Day! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ08:59
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dkesselsetting PIN or password security fails on my nexus 7 after a clean re-flash. I cannot switch to developer mode because of this...09:20
MirvJamesTait: I wish, not at home :(09:21
nhainesdkessel: what image are you running?09:21
dkesselvivid-devel-proposed 21409:22
dkesselnhaines: ^09:22
JamesTaitMirv, when you get home is fine. ๐Ÿ˜‰09:24
Mirvonly when the sprint is done!09:26
Mirvthat's luckily tomorrow though09:26
nhainesdkessel: this also fails in my upgraded r214, as well as in wily.09:31
nhainesBug time!  :)09:31
dkesselshall I or will you? I am unsure about the package09:32
nhainesOoh, I don't know which package either.09:34
nhainesI'm late getting to bed.  If you file the bug, I'll +1 it and confirm it.09:35
dkesselok nhaines09:36
dkesselpopey: can you helping me finding the right package to file this bug against? we cannot set password or pin security on touch vivid r214 and wily09:37
popeysomeone mentioned this yesterday iirc09:37
popeyah it was dholbach09:38
nhainesdkessel: thanks a ton.  I'll stick around a few minutes and keep an eye out.  Just let me know the bug number.  :)09:38
popeydholbach: did you get it fixed?09:38
dholbachpopey, no09:42
dholbachmterry and seb128 mentioned a bug to me09:42
larsuswitched my nexus4 to systemd and now it doesn't boot anymore. goes to black after the google logo, but seems to be on. no adb. also no pitti. anyone got an idea how I could debug it?09:42
dholbachhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1460017 maybe?09:42
ubot5Launchpad bug 1459730 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1460017 passcode set on device, developer mode->lock security" disagrees" [Low,Incomplete]09:42
nhainesdholbach: that's the one!09:44
nhainesdkessel: ^^09:44
nhainesdholbach: also important: how do I actually clear the passcode?09:44
dholbachI don't know - I rebooted, then had to type in the pincode in the passcode-dialog - it was all very confusing09:45
dkesseldholbach: except i cannot set a password/code under "Security & Privacy" -> "Lock phone" -> "Lock security", either...09:45
nhainesHm.09:45
dholbachtry rebooting and see if it's set then09:45
dkesselk09:45
nhainesRebooting now.09:45
dholbachgood luck09:46
* dholbach runs some errands09:46
nhainesSame.09:46
ogra_just use the passwd command ?09:47
nhaineswait.09:47
nhainesSuddenly this says Ubuntu 15.10.  Which is weird.09:47
popeyuhoh09:47
popeyyou're on devel-proposed?09:47
ogra_whats weird about that09:48
popeyYou don't want that09:48
ogra_popey, he said so above :)09:48
nhainesI am.09:48
nhainesBut *yesterday* it was vivid.09:48
popeyWorking as designed then.09:48
popeyunlikely.09:48
ogra_i'm not sure you can use the terminal without pin/password ... but if you can, the passwd command would do09:48
ogra_(to set a pin)09:49
popeyhaha, my krillin has been on for 4 days, still 70% charge09:49
ogra_popey, yeah, and next time you charge it it only survives 30h09:49
ogra_for me its been on and off recently :(09:50
popeyodd09:50
popeyah, new mvm update, mine won't last long now09:50
dkesselogra_: so i would just type the PIN as the password for passwd?09:50
ogra_sometimes it doesnt discharge at all, sometimes it doesnt survive 2 days09:50
nhainesYay, password removed.09:50
ogra_dkessel, yes, thats what the backend does ... your prob will be that there is more to it09:50
ogra_if anything needs to know about pin vs password, thats set in a debus service somewhere09:51
ogra_*dbus09:51
larsudeebus09:51
ogra_lol09:51
dkesseldkessel: ok, so now it is working after using passwd09:51
dkesselstill, it wourld not be working out of the box with r214 :p09:52
larsularsu: I think dkessel is talking to himself09:52
nhaineslarsu: that's not so strange.  But if he answers back, start to back away slowly.09:52
dkessellol09:52
larsuhaha09:52
dkessellarsu: oops. thats the problem with identical first names with d holbach :)09:53
larsuone of you change it. Quick!09:53
nhainespopey: devel/ubuntu on Nexus 7 only has two images.09:55
nerochiarooSoMoN: that failing test in the keyboard navigation branch is really odd. i am trying to run back the changes one commit at a time to see what is causing it, as i have exhausted all other options10:11
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MirvoSoMoN: how's the current webbrowser-app private headers usage status in wily, I haven't followed for a while?10:23
oSoMoNMirv, still in use for the DirectionalDragArea component, but thereโ€™s been progress on this front, the unity8 team has been working on refactoring it with the goal to move it to the UITK10:26
MirvoSoMoN: thanks checking since I'm finally approaching some sort of success with qt 5.5 beta10:28
Mirvso I'll rebuild webbrowser too10:28
MirvI'm pretty interested if anything works or not... and if stuff works I'll go through the currently filed 5.5 bugs again and confirm them10:29
MirvElleo: hey, could we land the bug #1437182 to wily?11:05
ubot5bug 1437182 in maliit-framework (Ubuntu) "maliit-framework fails to build against Qt 5.5" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143718211:05
Mirvso that I could more easily test Qt 5.5 in PPA11:05
ElleoMirv: yeah, that patch has actually been accepted upstream now; so might be worth syncing the package from upstream? rsalveti has been maintaining that package most recently, so probably best to get his view on it11:08
MirvElleo: oh, that's excellent! I'm not sure how available rsalveti is though atm for extra work.11:11
MirvElleo: would you be ok running whatever tests you run on a maliit-framework  if I uploaded an update with the 014 patch?11:12
Mirv(to a silo)11:12
ElleoMirv: sure11:13
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ahoneybunmhall119: does your N4 randomly vibrate ?12:10
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MirvElleo: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-031/ is now ready for testing on wily. when you have time for it, just ping me afterwards if testing is ok and I can publish it.12:42
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ElleoMirv: okay, will do :)12:51
kenvandinejgdx, great to see that you finished the todo list for the APN editor!12:58
kenvandinejgdx, but we don't want to land it yet until the NetworkManager, nuntium and ofono fixes are ready right?12:59
kenvandinejgdx, any idea what's up with those ap failures?  some of them are from cellular and phone, and the security panel tests that failed are from the sim pin code, which borrows from cellular13:01
jgdxkenvandine, no, it would make for a sweet but nonfunctional ui13:02
jgdxkenvandine, not yet13:02
kenvandinethe previous revision passed though13:04
jgdxkenvandine, you know if the tasks you mentioned are tracked?13:04
kenvandineso maybe flaky :(13:04
kenvandinenot sure13:04
kenvandinethey are on the punch list :)13:04
kenvandinenot sure about bugs13:04
jgdxkenvandine, that kinda flakyness smells like dbus13:04
kenvandineit can be stinky13:04
jgdxI'll take a look at the cleanup, maybe there's something we're doing wrong13:04
kenvandinejgdx, cool13:06
kenvandinejgdx, i'm reviewing your branch now13:06
jgdxkenvandine, you okay with leaving the debug info in until we're go for landing?13:07
kenvandinejgdx, you should update the MP description and commit message though13:07
jgdx*debug code13:07
kenvandineyes... i  just won't approve it yet13:07
jgdxthanks13:07
kenvandinei'll comment on other things i find though13:07
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rbnmaiahello guys14:17
jgdxkenvandine, right, there's some unintuitive code handling ConnMan while resetting the APN configuration. I've made comments, but in case it is not clear: If cellular data is ON we can't reset, so we turn it OFF. After a reset is complete, we restore the cellular data setting.14:35
jgdxResetContexts is sync in libqofono for this to work14:36
jgdxkenvandine, also, 100% pass rate on silo 33 on a krillin14:36
kenvandinejgdx, cool!14:42
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seb128kenvandine, jgdx, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/visible-file-exists/+merge/261096 ? trying to land that to wily to unblock the snappy desktop image build (u-s-s currently depends on system-image-dbus and s-i conflicts with snappy so apt bails out)15:25
seb128kenvandine, jgdx, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/battery-rendering-glitches/+merge/260991 should be trivial if you want to ack that as well while you are at reviewing ;-)15:26
kenvandineseb128, will do15:30
kenvandineseb128, the visible-file-exists branch looks good but i haven't tested it... i assume you did?15:31
seb128kenvandine, yes15:32
kenvandineok, i'll trust you instead of waiting for debs :)15:32
kenvandineit looks safe15:32
seb128kenvandine, thanks15:33
seb128it's also wily only ;-)15:33
seb128I'm going to silo test before landing anyway15:33
kenvandineapproved15:34
seb128thanks15:34
seb128kenvandine, want to review the other 1 liner as well?15:34
seb128or I can keep that for another latter landing15:34
kenvandinethe brightness one?15:35
kenvandinei did already :)15:35
seb128kenvandine, no, the battery graph one15:35
seb128oh, you did :-)15:35
seb128kenvandine, thanks15:35
kenvandinenp15:35
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brunch875Is there a way to uninstall scopes?16:57
brunch875The reddit scope doesn't load anything...16:57
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dobeybrunch875: find it in the store, and you can uninstall the package from its preview there17:03
cwayne1reddit scope isnt actually installed on the device though17:07
cwayne1its a remote scope17:07
mariogripabeato and awe, i'm still struggling with ofono... awe, I got the OEM_HOOK_RAW to send with correct parcel, but it require a oem command but of what i understand it does not seem like android is sending an command id. I'm just wondering if you can take a look at this and maybe make some sense out of why radio start is UNAVAILABLE. this is what RIL.java is17:08
mariogriprequesting before it turns on radio http://paste.ubuntu.com/11569119/ I cannot see any reason for radio state to be UNAVAILABLE, so i'm kinda lost... full android log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11569215/ full ofono log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11569264/17:08
awemariogrip, this is a GSM phone, correct?17:10
awemariogrip, so basically you're issue is you still can't get the phone to come online properly, correct?17:11
aweit might be worth filing an ofono bug, just as a convient place to put the RIL logs for both Android and ofono17:11
awemariogrip, do you have the capability to build a CM image for the phone?  It appears the Android traces you're providing are just radio logcat output17:12
awewhich are a bit hard to follow for the sake of tracing RIL requests/replies17:13
mariogripawe: I can build CM for the phone17:21
mariogripyeah, they are logcat output17:21
mariogripwith rild set to debug17:21
aweyou'll get a better RIL trace by enabling the tracing in libril.cpp17:22
aweit'll show request, replies, and parameters for each17:22
awebrb17:23
nico_rikkenJust a small question: Does the BQ (old or new) come with an unlockeable bootloader, so I can flash my own (free/libre) firmware?17:28
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peat-psuwitCan Ubuntu touch play video from URL?18:19
dobeypeat-psuwit: the media player just plays URLs, for local files it uses video:/// URLs i think.18:22
peat-psuwitdobey: How? Browser?18:23
dobeyi'm not sure i understand what you're asking18:25
dobeyjhodapp: ^^ maybe you can provide better answers here? :)18:25
peat-psuwitEx: Play this URL in Ubuntu touch http://live.thairath.co.th/trtv2/playlist.m3u818:26
kenvandinebfiller, Elleo:  for handling "all" types, we really only want source apps to register as providing "all" right?  we shouldn't have share and import handlers registering as "all"?18:26
jhodapppeat-psuwit, that's Apple's HTTP Live Streaming and not supported yet18:26
jhodapppeat-psuwit, there's gstreamer plugins for it, but it's not been tested on a UT device yet18:26
kenvandinebfiller, Elleo: although registering as an import handler for "all" would be nice for handling the download of unknown types18:27
jhodapppeat-psuwit, it's not difficult to support, just not yet18:27
peat-psuwitjhodapp: Oh, Ok then. How about progressive one? ex: http://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_720p_h264.mov18:28
Elleokenvandine: wouldn't destination apps need to be able to register as all for when legacy apps are saving things?18:30
kenvandineactually the other way around18:31
kenvandineno... hmm18:31
jhodapppeat-psuwit, what do you mean...that specific video file doesn't play?18:31
kenvandineElleo, opening a file saved by a legacy app would be looking for a source for "all"18:32
kenvandinenot a dest18:32
kenvandinebut it could be interesting handling all for dest, it could be used for downloading unknown types18:33
kenvandineand... possibly the whole idea of piping content through a middle app18:33
peat-psuwitjhodapp: It seems like the whole file have to be downloaded first. Can't it be streamed?18:34
jhodapppeat-psuwit, should be able to be streamed...you're trying with mediaplayer-app?18:34
kenvandineElleo, so maybe dest and source but not share18:35
peat-psuwitjhodapp: I pasted the URL in browser, expecting it to be opened in media player. But the "Open file" appeared and only "Gallery" is available.18:38
peat-psuwitjhodapp: After pressing that, the entry appear in "Files" indicator.18:39
jhodapppeat-psuwit, yeah I doubt that would work since the browser currently has no notion of media except for its internal software-based pipeline...this should be able to act more like you'd expect with media-hub integration (in the works now)18:39
jhodapppeat-psuwit, but check with the web browser guys as we might at least be able to get it to bring up mediaplayer-app18:40
peat-psuwitjhodapp: filling a bug?18:42
jhodapppeat-psuwit, yeah that'd be a start18:42
peat-psuwitjhodapp: Ok.18:42
peat-psuwitjhodapp: BTW, doesn't browser use GStreamer?18:43
jhodapppeat-psuwit, no, it has it's own GStreamer equivalent and ffmpeg-based codecs18:43
studio_hi18:47
nico_rikkenSo my retry: Just a small question: Does the BQ (old or new) come with an unlockeable bootloader, so I can flash my own (free/libre) firmware?18:49
studio_sturmflut was searching for a dlna-player for ubuntu touch. what about "xupnpd"? if the media-player can handle m3u xupnpd should work as a dlna-client.18:50
dobeymedia-player doesn't need to handle m3u playlists to have a dlna client18:51
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dobeysomeone just needs to write a dlna client app that passes the video urls to media player18:52
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studio_dobey, that is, what xupnpd made, a simple m3u18:52
dobeyi don't know what xupnpd is, but the ending 'd' implies it is not a client, but a server18:53
studio_you can use xupnpd also as "server", but i am using it for to grab external links (iptv).18:55
studio_http://xupnpd.org/t/18:56
peat-psuwitjhodapp: I think I know why that video URL doesn't play. That server doesn't set Content-Type properly. just tested another URL and that plays smoothly in browser.18:57
jhodapppeat-psuwit, ah good to know, same happens in the browser on Ubuntu desktop so sounds like it's not a bug in the browser after all19:06
studio_dobey, is the media-player now able to play external audio or video streams, if yes, on what version?19:06
studio_i mean via m3u19:07
dobeywhy do you need m3u?19:08
dobeyplaylist != stream19:09
studio_for iptv and internet radio19:09
studio_also for "internal" tv and radio from my sat receivers, they also offer m3u for casting video and audio streams19:11
dobeyok, that is not dlna19:12
dobeyif you mean m3u, say m3u. dlna is something else.19:12
studio_no19:12
studio_m3u is just the playlist19:13
studio_what the dlna client can handle19:13
dobeyyes, an m3u is a playlist19:13
dobeyit has nothing to do with dlna itself19:13
studio_so, how to stream, for exp. from an dlna-server, what is offering m3u-playlists or an dlna-client, what is offering m3u-urls for a single program?19:15
popeystudio_: port an existing app or write a new one19:16
studio_popey, please, have a look at xupnpd, i am using it since years.19:16
popeythats a media server, not client19:17
studio_it is a client19:17
studio_also19:17
studio_you can simple configure the lua's19:17
popeyI'm not particularly interested in that. I use mediatomb and xbmc/kodi19:18
studio_and it is much better than djmount19:18
studio_kodi on ubuntu touch would be nice !!!19:19
studio_popey, how did you run kodi on ubuntu touch?19:22
popeyi haven't19:22
studio_so, therefore i made an offer for an working dlna-client under arm19:23
popeyyou're porting one?19:23
studio_not me, but coolstream, raspberry and openwrt made that19:25
dobeythe app itself could parse the m3u and then pass the URLs along to media-hub.19:27
dobeyyou just need to write an app to do it19:27
brunch875it seems like the meizu's locked so it cannot be flashed19:28
brunch875that's something terrible19:28
studio_dobey, i don't understand, i thought m3u is a new feature?19:28
dobeybrunch875: all retail phones come with locked boot loaders19:28
dobeystudio_: m3u is a simple file format. it's a plain text file with a list of URLs19:29
studio_dobey, yes, i know.19:29
dobeym3u support might eventually get added to media-hub or media-player, but there is nothing preventing your app from doing the parsing of such a file, and then passing the resulting media URLs on to media-hub19:29
studio_so what kind or url's in the new feature are supported, only "local files"?19:30
studio_or=of19:31
brunch875I don't know much about it, but as I can see on the mailing list ubuntu-device-flash fails on the meizu whereas I succeeded on my BQ19:32
dobeyi don't know what you mean by "in the new feature"19:32
dobeyafaik, http/https urls will play fine in media-hub19:33
dobeybrunch875: i guess you used the alternate recovery image to do that?19:34
popeybrunch875: the person on the list didn't buy an ubuntu one though19:34
brunch875oooh!19:34
studio_exp.: http://linuxg.net/the-ubuntu-touch-ota-4-update-will-bring-important-new-features/19:34
popeybrunch875: so not so terrible, and no more terrible than every other phone19:35
brunch875dobey: I yesterday changed to the RC channel to enjoy dem' updates19:35
* brunch875 is off for dinner19:37
dobeystudio_: well if m3u is supported then try it out19:37
studio_dobey, i was reading, that one person, who tested an m3u, told, that his browser opened the stream. i thing this is not correct, normally a media-player should be opened ...19:37
dobeyi don't know how that person tested the m3u19:37
dobeyyou should probably ask that one person rather than asking arbitrarily obscure questions in here19:38
studio_that person was on the original channel for the bq E4.519:38
studio_therefore i asked, on what channel is m3u working19:38
dobeyif that person was usilng the stable channel, then that person obviously doesn't have m3u support19:38
dobeyit would be on the rc-proposed channel i would guess19:39
studio_ok19:39
dobeyat least if it "will be in ota 4" then that means it will be in the update that switches to vivid, which would currently be the rc-proposed channel afaik19:39
popeystudio_: just tried an m3u8 file and it didn't work19:44
popeytried http://jblive.videocdn.scaleengine.net/jb-live/play/jblive.stream/playlist.m3u819:45
popeybrowser prompted to "open with" but had nothing that could open those files19:45
studio_popey, i don't know if "m3u8" is supported by ubuntu touch. a normal m3u should work, does it?19:46
dobeym3u8 doesn't work19:46
popeygive me an example m3u19:46
studio_wait19:46
popeyfound one http://twit.am/listen.m3u19:46
dobeyhmm, di.fm seems to not have an m3u link that is obvious any more. all their channels seem to want to play in-browser19:47
studio_make a "ondalatina.m3u" with "#EXTM3U19:47
studio_#EXTINF:0,lautfm - ondalatina19:47
studio_http://stream.laut.fm:80/ondalatina"19:47
popeyno, it doesn't work19:48
popeylaunches music app which cannot handle those files19:48
dobeythe # lines are irrelevant19:48
dobeypopey: i guess music-app can't play streams yet?19:48
popeycorrect19:48
popeyit only plays local music19:48
studio_ok19:49
studio_so icecast is also not working19:51
popeyyup19:52
studio_ok, seem it needs to have more time, i know, i am too much impatient ... :(19:56
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jimcornetteHello there I have a simple question about qt5 in 12.04.  I have a autobuilder network and when I try to  build apps against it I am running into big issues with the ppa that is for 12.04. I have added the ppa but when I go to build it c an not pull in things like libqt5qml5 and many others19:58
jimcornetteso all the packages fail.  So is there another repo ?  or do I have to backport qt5 in full?  If this is the case is there a command to get all source code for qt5 ?  apt-get source <all of qt5>  then I guess I will have to build that on my autobuilder and push to repo so that I can  build my apps20:00
jimcornettethe ppa that I am talking about is ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa20:01
dobeyjimcornette: i'm not quite sure what you're trying to do, but 12.04 is not a supported phone target20:03
jimcornettedobey,  So I have a autobuilder (sbuild,schroots,databases ect) these are on cronjobs but when it try's to build any qt5 application that is in the autobuilder network It fails because it can not get any of the qt5 libs.  so just wondering if I have to backport all of it.20:07
dobeyjimcornette: yes. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src does not show precise as having qt520:08
jimcornettecool and thanks. !!20:09
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