[00:08] <cmaloney> Evening
[01:01] <cscheib> nice evening to finally fire up the grill
[01:02] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's gorgeous out
[01:23] <cscheib> made wings on the grill, pulled pork in the dutch oven... yay for efficient usage of time
[01:24] <cscheib> bonus: girlfriend actually helped clean significantly this time
[01:48] <wolfger> +1
[12:15] <brousch> rick_h_: Yesterday you mentioned woodworking and kayaking. This was a project someone did at my old makerspace https://goo.gl/photos/yJV2Fo1MXMzVogTF7
[12:15] <brousch> Hand-made wood sea kayak
[12:15] <rick_h_>  brousch yea, those are so cool
[12:16] <brousch> It was hard to get pictures of, but was really nice
[12:17] <brousch> Hm, and I like Google Photos better than google+ photos already. I can get a shareable link without having to actually share it on Google+
[12:18] <rick_h_> yea, they fixed the whole "thou shalt use G+ or nothing!" in it
[12:20] <brousch> Oh man, I just realized I never went through our Vegas/Grand Canyon photos. Some nice panos in there
[12:20] <rick_h_> :)
[12:25] <brousch> Only 376 photos
[12:30] <brousch> Moar kayak, and beer! http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2015/06/paddle_for_pints_traverse_city.html
[12:33] <cmaloney> morning
[12:34] <rick_h_> brousch: lol
[12:34] <rick_h_> morning
[12:34] <brousch> I wonder if there's a winery version of that
[13:35] <cmaloney> Good morning part 2. :)
[13:41] <brousch> Second morning?
[13:46] <cmaloney> yeah, I rebooted my machine
[13:46] <rick_h_> hobbit work day
[13:48] <cmaloney> heh
[14:14] <cmaloney> http://windowsserver.uservoice.com/forums/295047-general-feedback/suggestions/7996191-change-the-installation-option-for-windows-server
[14:14] <cmaloney> What happens when Microsoft takes away a GUI option in the server.
[15:23] <cmaloney> I'm getting the itch again for making a static site and using Pelican
[15:25] <greg-g> "Not everyone can code, use PS, use cmd line. The older generation grew up with code so they tent to use it more, the new generation who are taking over sys admin roles like GUI because it just works, its 100 times quicker than faffing about writing PS scripts and then theirs the whole desktop Start menu debacle."
[15:25] <cmaloney> greg-g: I about fell off my chair when I read that.
[15:25] <jrwren> greg-g: who said that? I want to blacklist them.
[15:25] <cmaloney> jrwren: See the windows server link above
[15:26] <jrwren> what an idiot
[15:26]  * rick_h_ just pretends he never saw it
[15:27] <jrwren> at least the next 2 comments are "NO DONT!"
[15:27] <cmaloney> I tent to use the cmd line.
[15:28] <jrwren> cmaloney: lol
[15:28] <jrwren> i login and flag as inappropriate
[15:28] <rick_h_> lol
[15:28] <rick_h_> good call
[15:29] <rick_h_> "you're clearly too dumb to participate in this discussion"
[15:29] <cmaloney> jrwren: nice
[15:29] <cmaloney> Now now rick_h_, this is a self-selecting herd.
[15:29] <cmaloney> They're the ones that take Windows Server seriously.
[15:30] <cmaloney> (tongue firmly in cheek. Windows Server has its place)
[15:30] <jrwren> its place in the garbage. am I right? :)
[15:32] <cmaloney> Well, when interoperating with Microsoft's ecosystem there's nothing better
[15:32] <cmaloney> though I prefer not participating in that ecosystem.
[15:40] <wolfger> greg-g: GUI "just works"?
[15:40] <wolfger> jrwren: ++
[15:41] <wolfger> silly admin, Windows are for games
[15:42] <jrwren> zomg, starcraft2!
[15:44] <greg-g> I thought fallout 4 was all the rage right now?
[15:44] <greg-g> pre-rage, I guess?
[15:46] <_stink_> that's my normal emotional state: pre-rage
[15:48] <greg-g> _stink_: there's a zen koan somewhere in that
[15:55] <cmaloney> pretty sure there's nothing zen about rage.
[15:56] <cmaloney> or if there is then I'm a zen master
[15:57] <_stink_> hah
[15:58] <wolfger> zen rage. Isn't that what we call passive-aggressive?
[15:58] <cmaloney> No, that's just being a dick
[17:57] <greg-g> poor bookie
[17:58] <cmaloney> Not poor Bookie
[17:59] <cmaloney> Bookie will live on.
[17:59] <cmaloney> It's hitting phase 2
[17:59] <cmaloney> which should be more sustainable. :)
[18:00] <greg-g> oh?
[18:01] <greg-g> that wasn't indicated in that "we're closing" email :)
[18:01]  * greg-g isn't in #bookie anymore
[18:01] <cmaloney> bookie.io is closing
[18:01] <cmaloney> the Bookie project is still alive
[18:01] <cmaloney> So the service is going away. The software continues.
[18:02]  * cmaloney isn't going to let the software get a break.
[18:02] <cmaloney> *whipcrack*
[18:04] <greg-g> that's what Evan P told me re identi.ca
[18:04] <greg-g> ;)
[18:05] <cmaloney> ANd it's still going
[18:05] <cmaloney> although slowly.
[18:05] <cmaloney> problem with identi.ca is they took away all of the clients when they migrated
[18:05] <cmaloney> statusnet had Twitter compatibility
[18:06] <cmaloney> so it was pretty easy to create new clients for it.
[18:06] <cmaloney> pump.io isn't as easy
[18:06] <cmaloney> so it doesn't have the drop-in replacement
[18:07] <cmaloney> I think pump.io is great, but it's never going to mature
[18:07] <cmaloney> partially because the interface isn't there to support it and it's exceptionally complicated to follow anyone
[18:08] <cmaloney> identi.ca (Statusnet) had the advantage of being a reasonable walled-garden
[18:09] <cmaloney> Most folks you wanted to follow were already on identi.ca (or were at one point)
[18:09] <cmaloney> Pump.io doesn't have the discoverability.
[18:09] <cmaloney> What makes Bookie different is Bookie doesn't rely on third-parties for communication. It can be personal
[18:10] <cmaloney> I have a feeling it'll be part of OwnCloud at some point (if it isn't already)
[18:11] <cmaloney> Bah, they have their own
[19:18] <greg-g> my god it's nice outside
[19:18] <greg-g> there are nice things about working SF. The bay is nice. Walking to the bay is smelly and crowded, but, when you get there it's beautiful
[19:20] <_stink_> who replaced greg-g
[19:20] <jrwren> i could say teh same things, just replace bay with river :p
[19:29] <greg-g> _stink_: the sunshine :)
[19:29] <_stink_> heh
[20:14] <cmaloney> http://www.reddit.com/r/Michigan/comments/38gfr4/
[20:14] <cmaloney> rick_h_: ^^
[20:27] <jrwren> wow, quite a few breweries in that list whose product I've not drank
[21:00] <brousch> There is a lot of wine and beer in the Traverse area that I have not imbibed
[21:00] <jrwren> NEW LIFE GOAL!
[21:14] <rick_h_> cmaloney: :) http://www.rei.com/product/882595/wilderness-systems-tarpon-120-angler-kayak should be to the store for pick up between now and Tues :)
[21:14] <rick_h_> you can come on up and sit on the back if you want. drink your beer with your feet in the water with fish nibbling your toes
[21:18] <cmaloney> rick_h_: First course of business: win the lottery.
[21:18] <cmaloney> second course of business: buy all the bug spray
[21:19] <cmaloney> Oh, this is the one you bought?
[21:19] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea
[21:19] <cmaloney> Why does it look like something that should be on a blue board with little pegs on it?
[21:19] <rick_h_> going up to my aunt/uncle's place on houghten lake next weekend so want it for that
[21:19] <rick_h_> lol
[21:20] <rick_h_> hard to sink
[21:20] <cmaloney> heh
[21:21] <cmaloney> Flint or Dusk?
[21:21] <rick_h_> dusk
[21:21] <rick_h_> want to be visible
[21:21] <rick_h_> so loud orange it is
[21:21] <cmaloney> Yeah, it doesn't look that bad in dusk
[21:21] <rick_h_> will take it on some lakes around here with there are real boaters
[21:21] <cmaloney> I'm usually more of a grey on black sort of guy but dusk looks nice.
[21:21] <cmaloney> rick_h_: That's what the loud life-jacket is for
[21:21] <rick_h_> yea, I worry about visibility to the big motor boards
[21:22] <cscheib> anyone know east-siders (Grosse Pointe) that do basement leak repair and/or mold removal?
[21:22] <cmaloney> cscheib: I hope you're asking for a friend
[21:22] <cscheib> heh, nope
[21:22] <cscheib> I got a no-look quote of $3500 for leak repair
[21:23] <cscheib> the leak's not so bad, as long as the downspouts are drained far enough away
[21:23] <cmaloney> Ugh
[21:23] <cscheib> working on tear-down myself
[21:23] <cmaloney> we  have some leaks in our basement as well
[21:23] <cscheib> and at least addressing the surface mold
[21:23] <cmaloney> though I think we're going to try patching them ourselves
[21:23] <cmaloney> the mold is another matter entirely.
[21:24] <cscheib> indeed
[21:25] <cscheib> I doubt I have the kind of money for them to do the whole spiel
[21:25] <cscheib> so I'm taking my chances with respirator and moldstat plus
[21:25] <cmaloney> Good luck
[21:25] <cmaloney> That shit is nasty.
[21:30] <cscheib> as long as I can get things in a sellable state, I'll be happy.  Probably about time for me to get a home warranty again, as it's darn near time for my furnace to die, and I'd rather not shoulder that expense
[21:43] <jrwren> have you identified the leaks?
[21:43] <jrwren> rod holes are easy to repair yourself.
[22:26] <cscheib> jrwren: looks like crack along the seams in the block
[23:17] <gamerchick02> rick_h_ no more bookie? sorry to hear that.