| barrydk | More almal | 04:50 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | morning barrydk inetpro and others | 05:54 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 06:19 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 06:19 |
| mazal | Oom Kilos , thank you for the link. I am testing that app as we speak | 06:19 |
| mazal | Already made an iso , busy installing it to another pc to test | 06:19 |
| Kilos | oh the new backup thing | 06:19 |
| Kilos | cool let me know | 06:20 |
| mazal | Will , just imaging the test pc first | 06:21 |
| mazal | will do* | 06:21 |
| mazal | In case it don't work | 06:21 |
| Kilos | b ut apparently remastersys should keep on working as well | 06:22 |
| mazal | This is better oom , more features | 06:22 |
| mazal | If it works | 06:22 |
| mazal | And I think it will be developed more , unlike remaster that is dead | 06:23 |
| mazal | My favourite imaging tool seems to be dead too :( redo backup | 06:25 |
| Kilos | ai! | 06:25 |
| * mazal wishles a tune while he waits | 06:38 | |
| mazal | Ag nee I give up , I can not spell or type | 06:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:40 |
| Kilos | wistles | 06:40 |
| Kilos | oo | 06:40 |
| Kilos | whistle | 06:40 |
| Kilos | oh my | 06:40 |
| Kilos | Maaz spell whistle | 06:41 |
| Maaz | Kilos: That seems correct. Carry on | 06:41 |
| pieter2627 | morning all | 06:43 |
| Kilos | hi pieter2627 | 06:44 |
| Kilos | luckily we got this tab complete or i would type pietie everytime | 06:44 |
| Kilos | hi that | 06:44 |
| Kilos | ai! | 06:44 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:45 |
| pieter2627 | haha | 06:46 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning :) | 07:08 |
| mazal | Oom Kilos | 07:46 |
| Kilos | ya seun | 07:46 |
| mazal | No info yet , the installer unable to wipe the current partition | 07:46 |
| Kilos | hi Cryterion | 07:46 |
| mazal | dd unable to wipe current partition | 07:46 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 07:46 |
| mazal | I am now trying another boot cd to that have a drive eraser to try and get the current partition off as the installer doesn't work with that one on | 07:47 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:47 |
| mazal | Even dd does nothing to wipe the drive | 07:47 |
| mazal | Unless my dd command was wrong | 07:47 |
| Kilos | oh my | 07:47 |
| Cryterion | Hi, tks | 07:47 |
| mazal | Hi Cryterion , welcome here ;) | 07:48 |
| Kilos | boot from the new thing and look for gparted | 07:48 |
| mazal | gparted failed also | 07:48 |
| mazal | Wiped it 5 times with gparted | 07:48 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:48 |
| mazal | When installer starts , current partition re-apears | 07:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | try contacting a priest, maybe it needs an exorcism. sounds like it might be possessed | 07:48 |
| Kilos | zero i | 07:48 |
| Kilos | it | 07:48 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:49 |
| mazal | I even tried sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda1 | 07:49 |
| mazal | To zero it , didn't work | 07:49 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | open it up and splash some holy water on the platters | 07:49 |
| Kilos | wait | 07:49 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | (not really please don't open hard disks) | 07:49 |
| mazal | Now I am trying another app on another linux boor cd to zero it | 07:49 |
| mazal | boot* | 07:50 |
| Kilos | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | 07:50 |
| Kilos | wait more | 07:50 |
| Kilos | dc3dd wipe=/dev/sdX | 07:50 |
| mazal | I am amazed that gparted failed , never seen that before | 07:51 |
| mazal | Unless this drive is physically something wrong | 07:51 |
| Kilos | look at disk utility as well if those commands dont work | 07:51 |
| mazal | And gparted was run from boot cd without mounting that drive , on 2 different os boot cd's | 07:52 |
| mazal | both failed | 07:52 |
| Kilos | try the wipe one first | 07:52 |
| mazal | K oom , waiting for the current drive wipe app to complete and will test again. Then will try those commands | 07:52 |
| mazal | Looks like the current one is doing something as I am at least getting some progress output | 07:53 |
| Kilos | disk utility shows lots of info | 07:53 |
| Kilos | ah | 07:53 |
| mazal | Didn't have this once before a while back oom ? | 07:54 |
| mazal | you* | 07:54 |
| Kilos | what? | 07:54 |
| mazal | Where a drive struggled to get partition of | 07:54 |
| Kilos | ya a few times with different drives but i use many tools | 07:55 |
| Kilos | last resort is always boot from 98 cd and fdisk | 07:55 |
| mazal | lol | 07:56 |
| mazal | dd is my last resort always | 07:56 |
| Kilos | also ubcd is good at times | 07:56 |
| mazal | If that fails I get stuck | 07:56 |
| Kilos | disk utility | 07:56 |
| Kilos | will tell you whats up | 07:56 |
| Kilos | the gnome one | 07:57 |
| mazal | The current one ( disk eraser on parted magic ) is only at 48% now running very slow , so I think it's working | 07:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | do you want to wipe the disk? | 07:58 |
| mazal | Yeah | 07:58 |
| mazal | I want to do a install on it , but installers fails to get current partition of | 07:58 |
| Kilos | i like gnome-disk-utility, it can do lots too | 07:58 |
| mazal | Then install can't continue , so then started battling the get the current partitio of | 07:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | try wiping mbr, sudo dd if =/dev/zero of =/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | 08:00 |
| mazal | Will try if current runs fails also thanx | 08:00 |
| mazal | I tried that command , just without the bs and count at the end and didn't work | 08:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 | 08:01 |
| Kilos | use the complete command man | 08:01 |
| mazal | tried both Graeme sda and sda1 | 08:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sudo dd if =/dev/zero of =/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | 08:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | try that | 08:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | if that doesn't work then the disk is likely a dud | 08:02 |
| mazal | Will do if current fails , don't want to interrupt that one now | 08:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no space between 'of' and '=', sorry | 08:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | old drive? | 08:03 |
| mazal | Not really , 3 years | 08:03 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah probably dying/dead | 08:03 |
| mazal | Will defnitely not put something very important on it now | 08:03 |
| mazal | Will finish testing , put image back , give to user I don't like lol :) | 08:04 |
| mazal | I see this app that is currently running is using dc3dd , is that a varient of dd ? | 08:05 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:05 |
| Kilos | that was a command i got from one of the lubuntu dev guys | 08:06 |
| Kilos | dc3dd wipe=/dev/sdX | 08:07 |
| Kilos | is that what you are using? | 08:07 |
| mazal | 75% | 08:07 |
| mazal | Almost there | 08:07 |
| mazal | Kilos: That what the app is using that I am using | 08:08 |
| Kilos | ah | 08:08 |
| mazal | Is part of a boot cd called " parted magic ". We normally use it to copy data of from drives that has broken OS's and can't boot | 08:09 |
| Kilos | you can also get this http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html | 08:12 |
| mazal | I have that somewhere | 08:13 |
| Kilos | takes lots of thinking though | 08:13 |
| mazal | Backed up so well that I can't remember where | 08:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:14 |
| mazal | Yeah I used it once , and it was a bit confusing | 08:14 |
| mazal | May I ask what that the bs and count stand for in the dd command ? | 08:16 |
| Kilos | work | 08:16 |
| mazal | block size ? | 08:16 |
| Kilos | i dunno i just use it | 08:17 |
| Kilos | its like driving a car, you dont need to know how the engine works | 08:17 |
| MaNI | block size | 08:18 |
| MaNI | it writes count blocks of bs size - the two combined is your total size | 08:18 |
| mazal | thanx | 08:19 |
| Kilos | ty MaNI | 08:19 |
| mazal | ok , done , let's try the install again | 08:20 |
| mazal | Drive is finally clean , install started , Kilos should have some feedback in 40 min or so | 08:30 |
| Kilos | ok | 08:30 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 08:34 |
| superfly | naandsê Kilos | 08:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:37 |
| mazal | Kilos: Works flawlessny , installs successfully , BUT it took over all my configs and data. Needs to check where to disable that | 08:41 |
| mazal | Is fine when you re-install own pc , but don't want that installing to someone else's pc | 08:41 |
| Kilos | what size was the iso? | 08:41 |
| mazal | 2.9gig | 08:42 |
| mazal | I don't have much in my home , just some docs and mail | 08:42 |
| mazal | And it also have 4gig size limit | 08:42 |
| mazal | Same as remaster | 08:42 |
| Kilos | yes, check if one can do it as a install only not a backup | 08:42 |
| mazal | k | 08:42 |
| mazal | will do | 08:42 |
| * Padroni greets the room | 09:08 | |
| * ThatGraemeGuy nods | 09:11 | |
| Kilos | hi Padroni | 09:11 |
| Kilos | you well? | 09:12 |
| Padroni | I am good | 09:12 |
| Padroni | crazy busy :/ | 09:12 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:13 |
| magespawn | good day | 09:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | if you say so | 10:08 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ;-p | 10:08 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 10:08 |
| Kilos | kinda winter here | 10:09 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yeah I had to find my scarf & beanie this morning, brrrr! :-o | 10:09 |
| barrydk | Lekker man lekker | 10:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:13 |
| barrydk | Kilos: mazal se hy sal nou kom rapporteer as ins internet hou, kry ook seker mar koud shame, hy is an en af vanmore | 10:14 |
| Kilos | dankie barrydk | 10:15 |
| mazal | Om Kilos , feedback: | 10:15 |
| Kilos | yip? | 10:15 |
| mazal | 1. Creation side. App uses gui interface than can be tricky as there is no manual or documentation at all. Once you know what to do and where to do it , it works very easily | 10:16 |
| mazal | 2. User configs at creation side: There is an option to disable user data transfer , however even with it disabled my configs still transfered to iso | 10:16 |
| Kilos | write the documentation for them | 10:16 |
| mazal | This is either a big or intended , I dunnno , but that bit bothers me a bit | 10:17 |
| mazal | 3. Installation side: Again can be tricky as no documentation exists. Ths iso boots normally but them at first glance it seems there is no install option at all | 10:17 |
| mazal | After some fiddling I discovered you have to run the app on the live iso itself which triggers the installation | 10:18 |
| mazal | IE: While running on the live iso , go to system and start up systemback | 10:18 |
| mazal | Installation itself is very easy , but again one strange option caused some dofficulty | 10:19 |
| mazal | When doing partitioning , there is an arrow that says " edit partition information " , which actually is " apply current changes " | 10:20 |
| mazal | If you don't click this and think it is actually and edit option as the description says then you can't continue | 10:20 |
| mazal | After finding that out through trial and error I did the install , which itself runs very fast and easy | 10:21 |
| mazal | New username , password and hostname can be set | 10:21 |
| mazal | 4. Transfer of user data at installation side: Here is a big flaw imo | 10:21 |
| mazal | By default this is set to "on" at installation. Your user settings will be transfered to the new install | 10:22 |
| mazal | So if you give the iso for someone to try out and he/she doesn't manually disable that during installation they will have all you configs , passwords etc. | 10:22 |
| mazal | This problem exists even if you did disable it during iso creation. | 10:23 |
| TinuvaMac | http://www.piedpiper.com/ and http://www.hooli.xyz/ | 10:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | holy wall of text batman | 10:23 |
| mazal | Apart from that problem and lack of documentation that explains how the program actually works , it is a very nice app that works excellent and fast | 10:23 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | what app? | 10:23 |
| mazal | ThatGraemeGuy: systemback , a live iso creator I tested for Kilos | 10:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh | 10:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sounds like work | 10:24 |
| mazal | remastersys is dead so looking for alternatives | 10:24 |
| mazal | Kilos: Test was done on Kubunu , dunno if it works on unity as well | 10:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | what would you use such a thing for? | 10:25 |
| mazal | Quickly re-install a system withou having to do updates or install all the extra apps needed | 10:26 |
| Kilos | to do updated installs on other pcs ThatGraemeGuy | 10:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | uuuuhhh | 10:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | k | 10:26 |
| mazal | is also very handy for new users who want to try Ubuntu and don't even know how to add repos and install apps | 10:26 |
| magespawn | without the need to connect to the internet on the machine being updated or installed | 10:26 |
| mazal | yep | 10:27 |
| mazal | Everything is as the source machine was when iso was made , excluding user data | 10:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | #thirdworldproblems | 10:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | lol | 10:27 |
| mazal | I use it myself when I re-install. Saves lots of time and data | 10:28 |
| mazal | Even extra repos added is as is | 10:29 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i have a puppet recipe i run if i need to re-install for some reason | 10:29 |
| mazal | For me is purely a time saving and data saving measure and works very well | 10:30 |
| mazal | Kilos: So for me , the verdict is fine for your own machine , but I would not give a iso made by this app for a friend. There is no gaurentee he/she will remember to disable the "transfer user config" setting | 10:33 |
| mazal | They should change it that if you disabled that at creation then it should not be in the iso at all | 10:34 |
| Kilos | if you do then you give the how to as well | 10:34 |
| Kilos | maybe you can disable it before you make he iso | 10:35 |
| magespawn | mazal if you were going to do this to make iso for other people to use you could do a generic machine there fore no user sensitive data | 10:37 |
| Kilos | hi gremble | 10:37 |
| mazal | Yeah , good idea magespawn | 10:38 |
| gremble | Hey Kilos | 10:40 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 11:41 |
| Padroni | if you send the following via Skype, it will crash skype on both ends: | 12:53 |
| Padroni | http://: | 12:53 |
| TinuvaMac | except there is an update out for it | 12:53 |
| Padroni | yeah but who updates skype? | 12:53 |
| Padroni | and the update is only for iOS as far as I know | 12:54 |
| Padroni | Sorry, skype for Mac is unaffected | 12:54 |
| Padroni | tried it yesterday - works on my skype | 12:54 |
| MaNI | they don't even mention linux, I think they have forgotten they even have a linux client | 13:04 |
| MaNI | which is maybe a good thing so that they can't ruin it as much as the others | 13:04 |
| Padroni | meh | 13:05 |
| Padroni | I do not trust anything out of the USA anymore. | 13:05 |
| MaNI | windows client gets worse with every release | 13:05 |
| Padroni | Skype / Dropbox / Google Drive / Gmail / etc | 13:05 |
| MaNI | I've never trusted google anything | 13:05 |
| Padroni | NSA has free range to spy on anything by a foreigner that goes past the US border | 13:06 |
| MaNI | and not because of NSA/USA but because of google themselves :p | 13:06 |
| MaNI | I begrudgingly use dropbox for some clients, it is overrated to put it nicely | 13:07 |
| MaNI | skype unfortunately I have no choice, too many clients use it | 13:07 |
| MaNI | and as bad as it has become the alternatives still seem to be worse, I don't understand why something better hasn't come out | 13:07 |
| Padroni | preach it, bro | 13:09 |
| Padroni | I use mega.co.nz as a Dropbox replacement | 13:09 |
| Padroni | 50GB storage | 13:09 |
| Padroni | run by Kim Dotcom (ex megaupload) | 13:10 |
| MaNI | but yeah we made it company policy not to talk about internal company stuff on skype anymore at least | 13:10 |
| MaNI | so only for customers who insist on using it | 13:10 |
| MaNI | problem with kim dotcom is that he will probably get raided again at some point | 13:11 |
| MaNI | 50gb is pretty tempting though | 13:13 |
| gremble | Skype for linux is also supposed to be unaffected | 14:18 |
| === magespaw1 is now known as magespawn | ||
| magespawn | can you use your skype account with another client, say pidgin? | 14:24 |
| Padroni | i have no idea | 14:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | yes and no | 14:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you can, but the way it plugs in, you still need the actual skype client running | 14:27 |
| magespawn | ahh right | 14:27 |
| Padroni | well that is just silly | 14:27 |
| Padroni | but - this being a MS program | 14:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | so pidgin acts as a front-end for the skype client, it can't speak the skype protocol on its own | 14:27 |
| Padroni | makes all the sense in the world | 14:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | its been like that since day 1 | 14:27 |
| magespawn | not much point really | 14:27 |
| Padroni | even worse | 14:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but let me not get in the way of mindless Microsoft-bashing, carry on | 14:27 |
| Padroni | I am not a fan. Sue me... | 14:28 |
| Padroni | ; | 14:28 |
| Padroni | ;) | 14:28 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | nothing wrong with that | 14:28 |
| Padroni | I think I have reached unproductive 'o clock | 14:29 |
| magespawn | yup just about home time too | 14:30 |
| Padroni | what just happened? | 14:34 |
| magespawn | you left and came back uncloaked | 14:36 |
| Padroni | odd | 14:37 |
| Padroni | time to go to bed, methinks. | 14:37 |
| Padroni | Have a good one, folks | 14:37 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:37 |
| magespawn | right that is me out of here too, chat later all | 14:42 |
| magespawn | good evening | 17:28 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:29 |
| magespawn | twice in one day hey Kilos | 17:30 |
| Kilos | ye4ah i like you | 17:31 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:31 |
| Kilos | you one of my early helpers | 17:31 |
| Kilos | and didnt tell me rtfs all the time | 17:31 |
| Kilos | ohi inetpro ,didnt see you lurking there | 17:32 |
| magespawn | hmm. lol | 17:35 |
| magespawn | still learning even now though | 17:36 |
| magespawn | installing vlc on centos, at the moment | 17:40 |
| Kilos | vlc works everywhere i think | 17:41 |
| magespawn | yup, not in the standard repos for centos though | 17:42 |
| magespawn | different working with yum etc. takes a a little of bit getting used to | 17:48 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:49 |
| gremble | Isn't yum deprecated? | 17:53 |
| magespawn | still works here, i am running 6.6 | 17:53 |
| magespawn | i could not find 7 for i386/32bit | 17:55 |
| gremble | Ah, yes. dnf will start replacing yum in fedora 22. You're probably not running fedora. CentOS? | 17:58 |
| Kilos | are you using it just to learn with magespawn | 17:58 |
| Kilos | the yum thing i mean | 17:58 |
| magespawn | gremble yup | 18:00 |
| magespawn | yes Kilos the new Linux+ uses both debian/ubuntu and rhel/centos examples in the book | 18:01 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:01 |
| magespawn | brb | 18:04 |
| stickyboy | yum winning | 18:06 |
| Kilos | ugh | 18:06 |
| magespawn | back | 18:08 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 18:08 |
| Kilos | you keep learning, its good for you | 18:09 |
| Kilos | just dont get like pro and get forgetful | 18:09 |
| * Kilos hides | 18:09 | |
| stickyboy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li3hXsDtMak | 18:09 |
| stickyboy | Meek Mill mixtape... | 18:10 |
| stickyboy | Now time to write some ansible playbooks. | 18:10 |
| magespawn | hmm still not playing the videos i wanted to watch, something else must be missing/wrong | 18:12 |
| stickyboy | magespawn: CentOS 6 on the desktop. LOL. | 18:12 |
| stickyboy | you crazy, br0. | 18:12 |
| magespawn | hah, just doing it for the experience really | 18:12 |
| gremble | CentOS is good to work with if you're doing any LPI stuff | 18:13 |
| gremble | CentOS or perhaps SuSE | 18:13 |
| magespawn | gremble: that is the plan, busy working my way through the comptia linux + study guide | 18:13 |
| stickyboy | SuSE is Novell and Novell is no. | 18:14 |
| stickyboy | #nope | 18:14 |
| stickyboy | CentOS is great. I run my compute / storage cluster on it at work. 10 machines... | 18:14 |
| stickyboy | But web / database? Ubuntu 14.04. Nice mix of stable and features. | 18:14 |
| gremble | Or be brave and use gentoo | 18:18 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 18:20 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:20 |
| Kilos | hello inetpro | 18:20 |
| stickyboy | gremble: Arch++ | 18:20 |
| gremble | Hey inetpro. You're just in time. We are about to help Kilos install gentoo | 18:20 |
| stickyboy | Arch is like Gentoo without having to re-compile your system every few days. ;) | 18:21 |
| Kilos | lol nono i know my limits | 18:21 |
| gremble | So far I haven't found a system that I like more than Arch. | 18:21 |
| Kilos | i only use stuff pro and fly can help me with | 18:21 |
| stickyboy | gremble: Mmmm :) | 18:21 |
| stickyboy | gremble: I got two Arch systems. | 18:21 |
| stickyboy | It is really nice. Simple... | 18:21 |
| gremble | I feel like I want to use NixOS and voidlinux still | 18:22 |
| stickyboy | I love the "upstream stable" policy of Arch. | 18:22 |
| stickyboy | gremble: Indeed, I also want to try NixOS. | 18:22 |
| inetpro | lol | 18:23 |
| * inetpro should perhaps try gentoo at some point | 18:23 | |
| inetpro | just so I can say, been there done that | 18:23 |
| gremble | Sure, grab an old laptop, play around while watching TV | 18:24 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:24 |
| gremble | You'll need something to keep you busy with while everything compiles | 18:24 |
| gremble | Or fails to | 18:24 |
| gremble | :P | 18:24 |
| inetpro | exactly why I don't go there | 18:24 |
| inetpro | but sounds like fun to build only what you really need | 18:25 |
| Kilos | play minetest then | 18:26 |
| gremble | That is exactly why I run arch instead of prerolled distros | 18:26 |
| inetpro | reminds me of the days when we started by compiling gcc with gcc | 18:27 |
| gremble | :P | 18:27 |
| gremble | I'm busy with a lisp interpreter in haskell. | 18:27 |
| stickyboy | inetpro: Linux From Scratch. :D | 18:27 |
| stickyboy | I did LFS a few times. | 18:27 |
| gremble | I want to make a haskell interpreter in that lisp so it is full circle | 18:27 |
| gremble | :P | 18:27 |
| inetpro | stickyboy: no that was on Solaris | 18:27 |
| inetpro | so much is taken for granted these days | 18:28 |
| gremble | Such as? | 18:28 |
| inetpro | everything just works :-) | 18:29 |
| gremble | :P | 18:29 |
| inetpro | ok maybe not everything | 18:30 |
| stickyboy | inetpro: Yes hehe. | 18:30 |
| stickyboy | Man, we used to have to configure refresh rates in XF86. :P | 18:30 |
| stickyboy | And if you get the modeline wrong your monitor could be toast. | 18:30 |
| stickyboy | hehehehe | 18:30 |
| magespawn | sounds like a lot of fun | 18:31 |
| magespawn | a good way to get new hardware, if you do not like the old | 18:40 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:40 |
| gremble | Someone is selling lenovo T540's quite cheaply.. but apparently they brick when you try and install linux. Completely crippling the motherboard | 18:43 |
| gremble | Makes me sad | 18:43 |
| gremble | haha | 18:43 |
| Kilos | why would that be | 18:43 |
| Kilos | bios corrupt | 18:43 |
| magespawn | how would that happen? | 18:43 |
| Kilos | something in bios is win only | 18:44 |
| Kilos | flash bios | 18:44 |
| magespawn | flash it? | 18:44 |
| Kilos | upgrade to original manufacturer bios | 18:44 |
| Kilos | gremble what is quite cheaply | 18:45 |
| gremble | The lenovo bios(or rather uefi I think) is one of those ugly ones that do the magic to make windows boot faster | 18:48 |
| gremble | R2500 each | 18:48 |
| gremble | They're refurbished | 18:48 |
| magespawn | can you not set them to legacy boot/ | 18:48 |
| magespawn | ? | 18:48 |
| gremble | The fix is apparently to reflash the lenovo firmware | 18:49 |
| magespawn | from where? | 18:49 |
| gremble | Newer firmware | 18:49 |
| gremble | so Lenovo | 18:49 |
| gremble | I am not sure what the process of flashing entails | 18:50 |
| gremble | I think I did it once when I was like 12 | 18:50 |
| magespawn | i was talking about the laptops themselves | 18:50 |
| stickyboy | EFI stub boot is winning | 18:51 |
| gremble | Oh, I have no idea | 18:51 |
| gremble | could be stolen :P | 18:51 |
| gremble | It probably isnt | 18:51 |
| magespawn | okay then | 18:51 |
| gremble | hahaha | 18:51 |
| gremble | With cheap things like that, I believe in a dont ask, don't tell framework | 18:52 |
| gremble | :P | 18:52 |
| magespawn | hmm, that might be a good thing to find out | 18:52 |
| Kilos | gremble you have the specs for them? | 18:54 |
| gremble | i7's with 8GB ram. More specific specs you can just look at the T540 specs online | 18:55 |
| gremble | Not sure about the harddrive sizes though | 18:55 |
| magespawn | that is a good price then, i would like to get my hands on one of those | 18:55 |
| Kilos | wow thats a nice lappy | 18:56 |
| Kilos | must be able to flash | 18:56 |
| magespawn | i am using a 40Gb here, so anything would be an improvement | 18:56 |
| gremble | ^ same :P | 18:56 |
| gremble | compaq 6510b | 18:56 |
| gremble | :P | 18:56 |
| magespawn | mecer experession dl75 | 18:57 |
| magespawn | expression | 18:57 |
| Kilos | i had one pc with xp i hink that flashed from the OS | 18:57 |
| Kilos | others you need a boot flash disk | 18:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: are you and your board members ready for the meeting this time around? | 19:07 |
| Kilos | some cant make it so im hoping others popin, but we got 2 early votes so i need to just find out about the quorum thing | 19:08 |
| Kilos | ty for the hard work inetpro TB warns me every morning hehe | 19:08 |
| Kilos | even about no meetings | 19:09 |
| inetpro | uh | 19:09 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you need 4 members IIRC | 19:09 |
| Kilos | yes but what happens if you already have two early votes, can 2 then have the meet still | 19:10 |
| Kilos | im trying to find that out | 19:10 |
| inetpro | what is 2 early votes? | 19:10 |
| Kilos | because they cant attend because of project releases etc | 19:10 |
| Kilos | so they mailed the board their votes after reading the wiki pages | 19:11 |
| Kilos | and i think they know some of the new applicants | 19:11 |
| inetpro | well... does it really matter? | 19:12 |
| Kilos | thats what i want to find out | 19:12 |
| inetpro | ping your team sir and make sure they be there | 19:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:13 |
| Kilos | im nagging all the time | 19:13 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:13 |
| inetpro | just use a bit tact | 19:14 |
| Kilos | ya | 19:14 |
| inetpro | "Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy." - Isaac Newton | 19:14 |
| Kilos | hibana got the sjambok | 19:14 |
| inetpro | no no no... | 19:14 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:15 |
| Kilos | i needed that laugh | 19:15 |
| inetpro | let him keep that rather | 19:15 |
| Kilos | kinda cold here | 19:15 |
| inetpro | very cold | 19:15 |
| Kilos | gonna ice tonight | 19:15 |
| gremble | Newton should probably not be commenting on tact | 19:15 |
| gremble | :P | 19:15 |
| gremble | He had little to no social skills | 19:15 |
| gremble | :P | 19:15 |
| magespawn | never said he had any | 19:15 |
| inetpro | gremble: ai! :-) | 19:16 |
| Kilos | i am very tactful | 19:16 |
| Kilos | as long as everyone agrees with me | 19:16 |
| gremble | remoteinterview.io | 19:17 |
| gremble | https://codepad.remoteinterview.io | 19:17 |
| Kilos | eish i need lotsa data | 19:18 |
| Kilos | they even interview live | 19:18 |
| Kilos | cc okes i think | 19:18 |
| magespawn | gremble what is that? | 19:19 |
| gremble | Pairprogramming | 19:19 |
| gremble | remotely | 19:19 |
| gremble | Pretty cool | 19:19 |
| gremble | https://codepad.remoteinterview.io/#?roomid=V07jz4QVG8 | 19:20 |
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| magespawn | yes indeed, also a good way to learn | 20:07 |
| inetpro | Kilos: \o/ | 20:10 |
| inetpro | nice to see you actually have a real meeting for a change | 20:10 |
| Kilos | hehe | 20:11 |
| * inetpro lurking for a few minutes | 20:11 | |
| inetpro | need to go sleep actually | 20:11 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:12 |
| magespawn | might be a good idea | 20:12 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 20:12 |
| magespawn | gremble: looks like it is actually set up to do a interview type test | 20:17 |
| magespawn | s/a/an | 20:17 |
| gremble | That is the name for it, but it is equally useful for pair programming. Although for that it is not difficult to use codepen or spinning up a VPS and ssh'ing into a screen session | 20:21 |
| gremble | I've done both. Cooperative coding is really odd | 20:21 |
| magespawn | i would like to watch a session | 21:01 |
| superfly | Pad<tab> | 21:02 |
| superfly | I got his mail, anyways. | 21:03 |
| magespawn | time for bed anyway, good night | 21:21 |
| gremble | Cheers | 21:23 |
| Kilos | hehe | 21:24 |
| Kilos | you saying cheers to mage gremble ? | 21:24 |
| Kilos | or you going | 21:24 |
| gremble | Saying good night to the person leaving | 21:25 |
| Kilos | good, im normally asleep by now | 21:25 |
| melodie | good night | 21:26 |
| gremble | good night melodie | 21:26 |
| melodie | Kilos go get your night sleep! :D | 21:26 |
| melodie | good night gremble thants | 21:26 |
| gremble | He has a meeting to attend | 21:26 |
| Kilos | i cant one more meet in 15 mins | 21:26 |
| Kilos | night melodie see you tomorrow | 21:26 |
| Kilos | sorry | 21:26 |
| melodie | don't be sorry | 21:27 |
| melodie | good night good night²³ | 21:27 |
| melodie | :D | 21:27 |
| gremble | I think I am going to do that as well | 21:28 |
| Kilos | night gremble sleep tight | 21:30 |
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