[04:50] <barrydk> More almal
[05:54] <Kilos> morning barrydk  inetpro  and others
[06:19] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:19] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[06:19] <mazal> Oom Kilos , thank you for the link. I am testing that app as we speak
[06:19] <mazal> Already made an iso , busy installing it to another pc to test
[06:19] <Kilos> oh the new backup thing
[06:20] <Kilos> cool let me know
[06:21] <mazal> Will , just imaging the test pc first
[06:21] <mazal> will do*
[06:21] <mazal> In case it don't work
[06:22] <Kilos> b ut apparently remastersys should keep on working as well
[06:22] <mazal> This is better oom , more features
[06:22] <mazal> If it works
[06:23] <mazal> And I think it will be developed more , unlike remaster that is dead
[06:25] <mazal> My favourite imaging tool seems to be dead too :( redo backup
[06:25] <Kilos> ai!
[06:38]  * mazal wishles a tune while he waits
[06:39] <mazal> Ag nee I give up , I can not spell or type
[06:40] <Kilos> lol
[06:40] <Kilos> wistles
[06:40] <Kilos> oo
[06:40] <Kilos> whistle
[06:40] <Kilos> oh my
[06:41] <Kilos> Maaz  spell whistle
[06:41] <Maaz> Kilos: That seems correct. Carry on
[06:43] <pieter2627> morning all
[06:44] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[06:44] <Kilos> luckily we got this tab complete or i would type pietie everytime
[06:44] <Kilos> hi that
[06:44] <Kilos> ai!
[06:45] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:46] <pieter2627> haha
[07:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :)
[07:46] <mazal> Oom Kilos
[07:46] <Kilos> ya seun
[07:46] <mazal> No info yet , the installer unable to wipe the current partition
[07:46] <Kilos> hi Cryterion  
[07:46] <mazal> dd unable to wipe current partition
[07:46] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[07:47] <mazal> I am now trying another boot cd to that have a drive eraser to try and get the current partition off as the installer doesn't work with that one on
[07:47] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:47] <mazal> Even dd does nothing to wipe the drive
[07:47] <mazal> Unless my dd command was wrong
[07:47] <Kilos> oh my
[07:47] <Cryterion> Hi, tks
[07:48] <mazal> Hi Cryterion , welcome here ;)
[07:48] <Kilos> boot from the new thing and look for gparted
[07:48] <mazal> gparted failed also
[07:48] <mazal> Wiped it 5 times with gparted
[07:48] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:48] <mazal> When installer starts , current partition re-apears
[07:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> try contacting a priest, maybe it needs an exorcism. sounds like it might be possessed
[07:48] <Kilos> zero i
[07:48] <Kilos> it
[07:49] <Kilos> lol
[07:49] <mazal> I even tried sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda1
[07:49] <mazal> To zero it , didn't work
[07:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> open it up and splash some holy water on the platters
[07:49] <Kilos> wait
[07:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> (not really please don't open hard disks)
[07:49] <mazal> Now I am trying another app on another linux boor cd to zero it
[07:50] <mazal> boot*
[07:50] <Kilos> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1
[07:50] <Kilos> wait more
[07:50] <Kilos> dc3dd wipe=/dev/sdX
[07:51] <mazal> I am amazed that gparted failed , never seen that before
[07:51] <mazal> Unless this drive is physically something wrong
[07:51] <Kilos> look at disk utility as well if those commands dont work
[07:52] <mazal> And gparted was run from boot cd without mounting that drive , on 2 different os boot cd's
[07:52] <mazal> both failed
[07:52] <Kilos> try the wipe one first
[07:52] <mazal> K oom , waiting for the current drive wipe app to complete and will test again. Then will try those commands
[07:53] <mazal> Looks like the current one is doing something as I am at least getting some progress output
[07:53] <Kilos> disk utility shows lots of info
[07:53] <Kilos> ah
[07:54] <mazal> Didn't have this once before a while back oom ?
[07:54] <mazal> you*
[07:54] <Kilos> what?
[07:54] <mazal> Where a drive struggled to get partition of
[07:55] <Kilos> ya a few times with different drives but i use many tools
[07:55] <Kilos> last resort is always boot from 98 cd and fdisk
[07:56] <mazal> lol
[07:56] <mazal> dd is my last resort always
[07:56] <Kilos> also ubcd is good at times
[07:56] <mazal> If that fails I get stuck
[07:56] <Kilos> disk utility
[07:56] <Kilos> will tell you whats up
[07:57] <Kilos> the gnome one
[07:57] <mazal> The current one ( disk eraser on parted magic ) is only at 48% now running very slow , so I think it's working
[07:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> do you want to wipe the disk?
[07:58] <mazal> Yeah
[07:58] <mazal> I want to do a install on it , but installers fails to get current partition of
[07:58] <Kilos> i like gnome-disk-utility, it can do lots too
[07:59] <mazal> Then install can't continue , so then started battling the get the current partitio of
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> try wiping mbr, sudo dd if =/dev/zero of =/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[08:00] <mazal> Will try if current runs fails also thanx
[08:01] <mazal> I tried that command , just without the bs and count at the end and didn't work
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> on /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
[08:01] <Kilos> use the complete command man
[08:01] <mazal> tried both Graeme sda and sda1
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> sudo dd if =/dev/zero of =/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[08:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> try that
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> if that doesn't work then the disk is likely a dud
[08:02] <mazal> Will do if current fails , don't want to interrupt that one now
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> no space between 'of' and '=', sorry
[08:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> old drive?
[08:03] <mazal> Not really , 3 years
[08:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah probably dying/dead
[08:03] <mazal> Will defnitely not put something very important on it now
[08:04] <mazal> Will finish testing , put image back , give to user I don't like lol :)
[08:05] <mazal> I see this app that is currently running is using dc3dd , is that a varient of dd ?
[08:05] <Kilos> lol
[08:06] <Kilos> that was a command i got from one of the lubuntu dev guys
[08:07] <Kilos> dc3dd wipe=/dev/sdX
[08:07] <Kilos> is that what you are using?
[08:07] <mazal> 75%
[08:07] <mazal> Almost there
[08:08] <mazal> Kilos: That what the app is using that I am using
[08:08] <Kilos> ah
[08:09] <mazal> Is part of a boot cd called " parted magic ". We normally use it to copy data of from drives that has broken OS's and can't boot
[08:12] <Kilos> you can also get this http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html
[08:13] <mazal> I have that somewhere
[08:13] <Kilos> takes lots of thinking though
[08:13] <mazal> Backed up so well that I can't remember where
[08:14] <Kilos> lol
[08:14] <mazal> Yeah I used it once , and it was a bit confusing
[08:16] <mazal> May I ask what that the bs and count stand for in the dd command ?
[08:16] <Kilos> work
[08:16] <mazal> block size ?
[08:17] <Kilos> i dunno i just use it
[08:17] <Kilos> its like driving a car, you dont need to know how the engine works
[08:18] <MaNI> block size
[08:18] <MaNI> it writes count blocks of bs size - the two combined is your total size
[08:19] <mazal> thanx
[08:19] <Kilos> ty MaNI  
[08:20] <mazal> ok , done , let's try the install again
[08:30] <mazal> Drive is finally clean , install started , Kilos should have some feedback in 40 min or so
[08:30] <Kilos> ok
[08:34] <Kilos> morning superfly  
[08:36] <superfly> naandsê Kilos
[08:37] <Kilos> lol
[08:41] <mazal> Kilos: Works flawlessny , installs successfully , BUT it took over all my configs and data. Needs to check where to disable that
[08:41] <mazal> Is fine when you re-install own pc , but don't want that installing to someone else's pc
[08:41] <Kilos> what size was the iso?
[08:42] <mazal> 2.9gig
[08:42] <mazal> I don't have much in my home , just some docs and mail
[08:42] <mazal> And it also have 4gig size limit
[08:42] <mazal> Same as remaster
[08:42] <Kilos> yes, check if one can do it as a install only not a backup
[08:42] <mazal> k
[08:42] <mazal> will do
[09:08]  * Padroni greets the room
[09:11]  * ThatGraemeGuy nods
[09:11] <Kilos> hi Padroni  
[09:12] <Kilos> you well?
[09:12] <Padroni> I am good
[09:12] <Padroni> crazy busy :/
[09:13] <Kilos> ah
[09:59] <magespawn> good day
[10:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you say so
[10:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> ;-p
[10:08] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[10:09] <Kilos> kinda winter here
[10:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah I had to find my scarf & beanie this morning, brrrr! :-o
[10:13] <barrydk> Lekker man lekker
[10:13] <Kilos> lol
[10:14] <barrydk> Kilos: mazal se hy sal nou kom rapporteer as ins internet hou, kry ook seker mar koud shame, hy is an en af vanmore
[10:15] <Kilos> dankie barrydk  
[10:15] <mazal> Om Kilos , feedback:
[10:15] <Kilos> yip?
[10:16] <mazal> 1. Creation side. App uses gui interface than can be tricky as there is no manual or documentation at all. Once you know what to do and where to do it , it works very easily
[10:16] <mazal> 2. User configs at creation side: There is an option to disable user data transfer , however even with it disabled my configs still transfered to iso
[10:16] <Kilos> write the documentation for them
[10:17] <mazal> This is either a big or intended , I dunnno , but that bit bothers me a bit
[10:17] <mazal> 3. Installation side: Again can be tricky as no documentation exists. Ths iso boots normally but them at first glance it seems there is no install option at all
[10:18] <mazal> After some fiddling I discovered you have to run the app on the live iso itself which triggers the installation
[10:18] <mazal> IE: While running on the live iso , go to system and start up systemback
[10:19] <mazal> Installation itself is very easy , but again one strange option caused some dofficulty
[10:20] <mazal> When doing partitioning , there is an arrow that says " edit partition information " , which actually is " apply current changes "
[10:20] <mazal> If you don't click this and think it is actually and edit option as the description says then you can't continue
[10:21] <mazal> After finding that out through trial and error I did the install , which itself runs very fast and easy
[10:21] <mazal> New username , password and hostname can be set
[10:21] <mazal> 4. Transfer of user data at installation side: Here is a big flaw imo
[10:22] <mazal> By default this is set to "on" at installation. Your user settings will be transfered to the new install
[10:22] <mazal> So if you give the iso for someone to try out and he/she doesn't manually disable that during installation they will have all you configs , passwords etc.
[10:23] <mazal> This problem exists even if you did disable it during iso creation.
[10:23] <TinuvaMac> http://www.piedpiper.com/ and http://www.hooli.xyz/
[10:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> holy wall of text batman
[10:23] <mazal> Apart from that problem and lack of documentation that explains how the program actually works , it is a very nice app that works excellent and fast
[10:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> what app?
[10:24] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy: systemback , a live iso creator I tested for Kilos
[10:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh
[10:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> sounds like work
[10:24] <mazal> remastersys is dead so looking for alternatives
[10:25] <mazal> Kilos: Test was done on Kubunu , dunno if it works on unity as well
[10:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> what would you use such a thing for?
[10:26] <mazal> Quickly re-install a system withou having to do updates or install all the extra apps needed
[10:26] <Kilos> to do updated installs on other pcs ThatGraemeGuy  
[10:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> uuuuhhh
[10:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> k
[10:26] <mazal> is also very handy for new users who want to try Ubuntu and don't even know how to add repos and install apps
[10:26] <magespawn> without the need to connect to the internet on the machine being updated or installed
[10:27] <mazal> yep
[10:27] <mazal> Everything is as the source machine was when iso was made , excluding user data
[10:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> #thirdworldproblems
[10:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[10:28] <mazal> I use it myself when I re-install. Saves lots of time and data
[10:29] <mazal> Even extra repos added is as is
[10:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have a puppet recipe i run if i need to re-install for some reason
[10:30] <mazal> For me is purely a time saving and data saving measure and works very well
[10:33] <mazal> Kilos: So for me , the verdict is fine for your own machine , but I would not give a iso made by this app for a friend. There is no gaurentee he/she will remember to disable the "transfer user config" setting
[10:34] <mazal> They should change it that if you disabled that at creation then it should not be in the iso at all
[10:34] <Kilos> if you do then you give the how to as well
[10:35] <Kilos> maybe you can disable it before you make he iso
[10:37] <magespawn> mazal if you were going to do this to make iso for other people to use you could do a generic machine there fore no user sensitive data
[10:37] <Kilos> hi gremble  
[10:38] <mazal> Yeah , good idea magespawn
[10:40] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[11:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:53] <Padroni> if you send the following via Skype, it will crash skype on both ends:
[12:53] <Padroni> http://:
[12:53] <TinuvaMac> except there is an update out for it
[12:53] <Padroni> yeah but who updates skype?
[12:54] <Padroni> and the update is only for iOS as far as I know
[12:54] <Padroni> Sorry, skype for Mac is unaffected
[12:54] <Padroni> tried it yesterday - works on my skype
[13:04] <MaNI> they don't even mention linux, I think they have forgotten they even have a linux client
[13:04] <MaNI> which is maybe a good thing so that they can't ruin it as much as the others
[13:05] <Padroni> meh
[13:05] <Padroni> I do not trust anything out of the USA anymore.
[13:05] <MaNI> windows client gets worse with every release
[13:05] <Padroni> Skype / Dropbox / Google Drive / Gmail / etc
[13:05] <MaNI> I've never trusted google anything
[13:06] <Padroni> NSA has free range to spy on anything by a foreigner that goes past the US border
[13:06] <MaNI> and not because of NSA/USA but because of google themselves :p
[13:07] <MaNI> I begrudgingly use dropbox for some clients, it is overrated to put it nicely
[13:07] <MaNI> skype unfortunately I have no choice, too many clients use it
[13:07] <MaNI> and as bad as it has become the alternatives still seem to be worse, I don't understand why something better hasn't come out
[13:09] <Padroni> preach it, bro
[13:09] <Padroni> I use mega.co.nz as a Dropbox replacement
[13:09] <Padroni> 50GB storage
[13:10] <Padroni> run by Kim Dotcom (ex megaupload)
[13:10] <MaNI> but yeah we made it company policy not to talk about internal company stuff on skype anymore at least 
[13:10] <MaNI> so only for customers who insist on using it
[13:11] <MaNI> problem with kim dotcom is that he will probably get raided again at some point
[13:13] <MaNI> 50gb is pretty tempting though
[14:18] <gremble> Skype for linux is also supposed to be unaffected
[14:24] <magespawn> can you use your skype account with another client, say pidgin?
[14:26] <Padroni> i have no idea
[14:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes and no
[14:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can, but the way it plugs in, you still need the actual skype client running
[14:27] <magespawn> ahh right
[14:27] <Padroni> well that is just silly
[14:27] <Padroni> but - this being a MS program
[14:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> so pidgin acts as a front-end for the skype client, it can't speak the skype protocol on its own
[14:27] <Padroni> makes all the sense in the world
[14:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> its been like that since day 1
[14:27] <magespawn> not much point really
[14:27] <Padroni> even worse
[14:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> but let me not get in the way of mindless Microsoft-bashing, carry on
[14:28] <Padroni> I am not a fan.  Sue me...
[14:28] <Padroni> ;
[14:28] <Padroni> ;)
[14:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> nothing wrong with that
[14:29] <Padroni> I think I have reached unproductive 'o clock
[14:30] <magespawn> yup just about home time too
[14:34] <Padroni> what just happened?
[14:36] <magespawn> you left and came back uncloaked
[14:37] <Padroni> odd
[14:37] <Padroni> time to go to bed, methinks.
[14:37] <Padroni> Have a good one, folks
[14:37] <Kilos> lol
[14:42] <magespawn> right that is me out of here too, chat later all
[17:28] <magespawn> good evening
[17:29] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[17:30] <magespawn> twice in one day hey Kilos 
[17:31] <Kilos> ye4ah i like you
[17:31] <Kilos> hehe
[17:31] <Kilos> you one of my early helpers
[17:31] <Kilos> and didnt tell me rtfs all the time
[17:32] <Kilos> ohi inetpro  ,didnt see you lurking there
[17:35] <magespawn> hmm. lol
[17:36] <magespawn> still learning even now though
[17:40] <magespawn> installing vlc on centos, at the moment
[17:41] <Kilos> vlc works everywhere i think
[17:42] <magespawn> yup, not in the standard repos for centos though
[17:48] <magespawn> different working with yum etc. takes a a little of bit getting used to
[17:49] <Kilos> hehe
[17:53] <gremble> Isn't yum deprecated?
[17:53] <magespawn> still works here, i am running 6.6
[17:55] <magespawn> i could not find 7 for i386/32bit
[17:58] <gremble> Ah, yes. dnf will start replacing yum in fedora 22. You're probably not running fedora. CentOS?
[17:58] <Kilos> are you using it just to learn with magespawn  
[17:58] <Kilos> the yum thing i mean
[18:00] <magespawn> gremble yup
[18:01] <magespawn> yes Kilos the new Linux+ uses both debian/ubuntu and rhel/centos examples in the book
[18:01] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:04] <magespawn> brb
[18:06] <stickyboy> yum winning
[18:06] <Kilos> ugh
[18:08] <magespawn> back
[18:08] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[18:09] <Kilos> you keep learning, its good for you
[18:09] <Kilos> just dont get like pro and get forgetful
[18:09]  * Kilos hides
[18:09] <stickyboy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li3hXsDtMak
[18:10] <stickyboy> Meek Mill mixtape...
[18:10] <stickyboy> Now time to write some ansible playbooks.
[18:12] <magespawn> hmm still not playing the videos i wanted to watch, something else must be missing/wrong
[18:12] <stickyboy> magespawn: CentOS 6 on the desktop. LOL.
[18:12] <stickyboy> you crazy, br0.
[18:12] <magespawn> hah, just doing it for the experience really
[18:13] <gremble> CentOS is good to work with if you're doing any LPI stuff
[18:13] <gremble> CentOS or perhaps SuSE
[18:13] <magespawn> gremble: that is the plan, busy working my way through the comptia linux + study guide
[18:14] <stickyboy> SuSE is Novell and Novell is no.
[18:14] <stickyboy> #nope
[18:14] <stickyboy> CentOS is great. I run my compute / storage cluster on it at work. 10 machines...
[18:14] <stickyboy> But web / database? Ubuntu 14.04. Nice mix of stable and features.
[18:18] <gremble> Or be brave and use gentoo
[18:20] <inetpro> good mornings
[18:20] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <Kilos> hello inetpro  
[18:20] <stickyboy> gremble: Arch++
[18:20] <gremble> Hey inetpro. You're just in time. We are about to help Kilos install gentoo
[18:21] <stickyboy> Arch is like Gentoo without having to re-compile your system every few days. ;)
[18:21] <Kilos> lol nono i know my limits
[18:21] <gremble> So far I haven't found a system that I like more than Arch.
[18:21] <Kilos> i only use stuff pro and fly can help me with
[18:21] <stickyboy> gremble: Mmmm :)
[18:21] <stickyboy> gremble: I got two Arch systems.
[18:21] <stickyboy> It is really nice. Simple...
[18:22] <gremble> I feel like I want to use NixOS and voidlinux still
[18:22] <stickyboy> I love the "upstream stable" policy of Arch.
[18:22] <stickyboy> gremble: Indeed, I also want to try NixOS.
[18:23] <inetpro> lol
[18:23]  * inetpro should perhaps try gentoo at some point
[18:23] <inetpro> just so I can say, been there done that
[18:24] <gremble> Sure, grab an old laptop, play around while watching TV
[18:24] <inetpro> ai!
[18:24] <gremble> You'll need something to keep you busy with while everything compiles
[18:24] <gremble> Or fails to
[18:24] <gremble> :P
[18:24] <inetpro> exactly why I don't go there
[18:25] <inetpro> but sounds like fun to build only what you really need
[18:26] <Kilos> play minetest then
[18:26] <gremble> That is exactly why I run arch instead of prerolled distros
[18:27] <inetpro> reminds me of the days when we started by compiling gcc with gcc 
[18:27] <gremble> :P
[18:27] <gremble> I'm busy with a lisp interpreter in haskell. 
[18:27] <stickyboy> inetpro: Linux From Scratch. :D
[18:27] <stickyboy> I did LFS a few times.
[18:27] <gremble> I want to make a haskell interpreter in that lisp so it is full circle
[18:27] <gremble> :P
[18:27] <inetpro> stickyboy: no that was on Solaris
[18:28] <inetpro> so much is taken for granted these days
[18:28] <gremble> Such as?
[18:29] <inetpro> everything just works :-)
[18:29] <gremble> :P
[18:30] <inetpro> ok maybe not everything
[18:30] <stickyboy> inetpro: Yes hehe.
[18:30] <stickyboy> Man, we used to have to configure refresh rates in XF86. :P
[18:30] <stickyboy> And if you get the modeline wrong your monitor could be toast.
[18:30] <stickyboy> hehehehe
[18:31] <magespawn> sounds like a lot of fun
[18:40] <magespawn> a good way to get new hardware, if you do not like the old
[18:40] <Kilos> haha
[18:43] <gremble> Someone is selling lenovo T540's quite cheaply.. but apparently they brick when you try and install linux. Completely crippling the motherboard
[18:43] <gremble> Makes me sad
[18:43] <gremble> haha
[18:43] <Kilos> why would that be
[18:43] <Kilos> bios corrupt
[18:43] <magespawn> how would that happen?
[18:44] <Kilos> something in bios is win only
[18:44] <Kilos> flash bios
[18:44] <magespawn> flash it?
[18:44] <Kilos> upgrade to original manufacturer bios
[18:45] <Kilos> gremble  what is quite cheaply
[18:48] <gremble> The lenovo bios(or rather uefi I think) is one of those ugly ones that do the magic to make windows boot faster
[18:48] <gremble> R2500 each
[18:48] <gremble> They're refurbished 
[18:48] <magespawn> can you not set them to legacy boot/
[18:48] <magespawn> ?
[18:49] <gremble> The fix is apparently to reflash the lenovo firmware
[18:49] <magespawn> from where?
[18:49] <gremble> Newer firmware
[18:49] <gremble> so Lenovo
[18:50] <gremble> I am not sure what the process of flashing entails
[18:50] <gremble> I think I did it once when I was like 12
[18:50] <magespawn> i was talking about the laptops themselves
[18:51] <stickyboy> EFI stub boot is winning
[18:51] <gremble> Oh, I have no idea
[18:51] <gremble> could be stolen :P
[18:51] <gremble> It probably isnt
[18:51] <magespawn> okay then
[18:51] <gremble> hahaha
[18:52] <gremble> With cheap things like that, I believe in a dont ask, don't tell framework
[18:52] <gremble> :P
[18:52] <magespawn> hmm, that might be a good thing to find out
[18:54] <Kilos> gremble  you have the specs for them?
[18:55] <gremble> i7's with 8GB ram. More specific specs you can just look at the T540 specs online
[18:55] <gremble> Not sure about the harddrive sizes though
[18:55] <magespawn> that is a good price then, i would like to get my hands on one of those
[18:56] <Kilos> wow thats a nice lappy
[18:56] <Kilos> must be able to flash
[18:56] <magespawn> i am using a 40Gb here, so anything would be an improvement
[18:56] <gremble> ^ same :P
[18:56] <gremble> compaq 6510b 
[18:56] <gremble> :P
[18:57] <magespawn> mecer experession dl75
[18:57] <magespawn> expression
[18:57] <Kilos> i had one pc with xp i hink that flashed from the OS
[18:58] <Kilos> others you need a boot flash disk
[19:07] <inetpro> Kilos: are you and your board members ready for the meeting this time around?
[19:08] <Kilos> some cant make it so im hoping others popin, but we got 2 early votes so i need to just find out about the quorum thing
[19:08] <Kilos> ty for the hard work inetpro  TB warns me every morning hehe
[19:09] <Kilos> even about no meetings
[19:09] <inetpro> uh
[19:09] <inetpro> Kilos: you need 4 members IIRC
[19:10] <Kilos> yes but what happens if you already have two early votes, can 2 then have the meet still
[19:10] <Kilos> im trying to find that out
[19:10] <inetpro> what is 2 early votes?
[19:10] <Kilos> because they cant attend because of project releases etc
[19:11] <Kilos> so they mailed the board their votes after reading the wiki pages
[19:11] <Kilos> and i think they know some of the new applicants
[19:12] <inetpro> well... does it really matter?
[19:12] <Kilos> thats what i want to find out
[19:13] <inetpro> ping your team sir and make sure they be there
[19:13] <Kilos> lol
[19:13] <Kilos> im nagging all the time
[19:13] <inetpro> ai!
[19:14] <inetpro> just use a bit tact
[19:14] <Kilos> ya
[19:14] <inetpro> "Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy." - Isaac Newton
[19:14] <Kilos> hibana got the sjambok
[19:14] <inetpro> no no no...
[19:15] <Kilos> lol
[19:15] <Kilos> i needed that laugh
[19:15] <inetpro> let him keep that rather
[19:15] <Kilos> kinda cold here
[19:15] <inetpro> very cold
[19:15] <Kilos> gonna ice tonight
[19:15] <gremble> Newton should probably not be commenting on tact
[19:15] <gremble> :P
[19:15] <gremble> He had little to no social skills
[19:15] <gremble> :P
[19:15] <magespawn> never said he had any
[19:16] <inetpro> gremble: ai! :-)
[19:16] <Kilos> i am very tactful
[19:16] <Kilos> as long as everyone agrees with me
[19:17] <gremble> remoteinterview.io
[19:17] <gremble> https://codepad.remoteinterview.io
[19:18] <Kilos> eish i need lotsa data
[19:18] <Kilos> they even interview live
[19:18] <Kilos> cc okes i think
[19:19] <magespawn> gremble what is that?
[19:19] <gremble> Pairprogramming
[19:19] <gremble> remotely
[19:19] <gremble> Pretty cool
[19:20] <gremble> https://codepad.remoteinterview.io/#?roomid=V07jz4QVG8
[20:07] <magespawn> yes indeed, also a good way to learn
[20:10] <inetpro> Kilos: \o/ 
[20:10] <inetpro> nice to see you actually have a real meeting for a change
[20:11] <Kilos> hehe
[20:11]  * inetpro lurking for a few minutes
[20:11] <inetpro> need to go sleep actually
[20:12] <Kilos> lol
[20:12] <magespawn> might be a good idea
[20:12] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:17] <magespawn> gremble: looks like it is actually set up to do a interview type test
[20:17] <magespawn> s/a/an
[20:21] <gremble> That is the name for it, but it is equally useful for pair programming. Although for that it is not difficult to use codepen or spinning up a VPS and ssh'ing into a screen session
[20:21] <gremble> I've done both. Cooperative coding is really odd
[21:01] <magespawn> i would like to watch a session
[21:02] <superfly> Pad<tab>
[21:03] <superfly> I got his mail, anyways.
[21:21] <magespawn> time for bed anyway, good night
[21:23] <gremble> Cheers
[21:24] <Kilos> hehe
[21:24] <Kilos> you saying cheers to mage gremble  ?
[21:24] <Kilos> or you going
[21:25] <gremble> Saying good night to the person leaving
[21:25] <Kilos> good, im normally asleep by now
[21:26] <melodie> good night
[21:26] <gremble> good night melodie 
[21:26] <melodie> Kilos go get your night sleep! :D
[21:26] <melodie> good night gremble thants
[21:26] <gremble> He has a meeting to attend
[21:26] <Kilos> i cant one more meet in 15 mins
[21:26] <Kilos> night melodie  see you tomorrow
[21:26] <Kilos> sorry
[21:27] <melodie> don't be sorry 
[21:27] <melodie> good night good night²³
[21:27] <melodie> :D
[21:28] <gremble> I think I am going to do that as well
[21:30] <Kilos> night gremble  sleep tight