[00:00] <Scott_S> See, I would think it was that, but netstat shows that master is listening on port 25 for both * and 0.0.0.0.
[00:00] <Scott_S> Which leads me to believe it is actually listening to the port, but refusing the connection.
[00:00] <sarnold> Scott_S: ah! if it's actually listening than firewall inspection is the next best step I think
[00:00] <trippeh> residential ISPs doesnt like their users having spambots spewing spam :)
[00:01] <Scott_S> trippeh, Datacenter actually, but I did request port 25 traffic be permitted and they replied back stating that they had removed the restriction filter. I'll check with them again just to make sure.
[00:01] <sarnold> Scott_S: .. it might be denied by shaw ..
[00:02] <Scott_S> sarnold, I'm able to connect to my other server properly, which is configured with Windows. It'd be ridiculous for Shaw to restrict *incoming* port 25 traffic.
[00:02] <Scott_S> Otherwise, well, no one would use IMAP.
[00:03] <sarnold> Scott_S: I meant, if you're trying to test from your home laptop, shaw might prevent you from connecting to port 25 on the way outbound, to reduce spam..
[00:04] <trippeh> Scott_S: "email clients" dont really use port 25 anymore. the client to relay traffic is SMTP on port 587
[00:05] <trippeh> aka "submission"
[00:07]  * trippeh sees if this systemd-networkd thing is working
[00:08] <Scott_S> Interesting. I'm curious why Postfix is set up to use port 25 by default.
[00:08] <trippeh> To recieve email from relays ;-)
[00:09] <trippeh> relay -> mx is still on 25.
[00:09] <Scott_S> trippeh, so IMAP uses port 587 for actually sending mail via TLS?
[00:09] <trippeh> no. IMAP does not usually send email at all.
[00:10] <Scott_S> Erm sorry, I meant for receiving mail. I know that smtp is for sending.
[00:12] <Scott_S> I think I may be screwing up my ports and services. I'll figure it out later.
[00:12] <trippeh> IMAP uses different ports, none 25
[00:12] <trippeh> and not really related to Postfix
[00:12] <trippeh> yeah :)
[00:13] <Scott_S> Shows how much I set up these things, I'm unable to send mail via SMTP, which is supposed to use port 25 (apparently).
[00:16] <sarnold> Scott_S: when debugging mail problems it's best to use the simplest tools ever: nc to specific hosts, on specific ports, and hand-type the smtp sending session..
[00:16] <sarnold> Scott_S: test from localhost, from inside the same DC, from outside the DC, etc..
[00:16] <sarnold> if you're testing using full-blown  MTAs you'll drive yourself insane quickly.
[00:22] <trippeh> ok, networkd did bring up networking, thats something I guess :)
[00:23] <trippeh> no idea how to make it set accept_ra=0 before link up hmmm
[04:49] <Scott_S> sarnold, If you're still here, I simply enabled SSL smtp, which appears to have fixed the issue as I now connect via 465. Port 25 worked from localhost, just not from external network.
[08:05] <OpenTokix> trippeh: pre-up in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:06] <OpenTokix> trippeh: or just set ipv6 to manual, or add it to /etc/sysctl.conf
[08:06] <OpenTokix> trippeh: You want it to use dhcp6?
[08:59] <Dyon> Hi - I'm trying to setup an LDS for "managed" repository mirroring, can this only be accomlished with landscape-api and do I have to know all urls by head (e.g. MAAS repo, JuJu Repo, Cloud) or is there some magic command hidden somewhere? :-)
[10:23] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[10:53] <trippeh> OpenTokix: that is for ifupdown, not systemd-networkd.
[10:54] <trippeh> OpenTokix: anyway, ifupdown handles most of it without those kinds of hack
[10:54] <trippeh> I'm just trying out the future ;)
[10:56] <OpenTokix> trippeh: ok
[10:56] <OpenTokix> trippeh: And the future does not include autoaccept_ra? =)
[11:00] <trippeh> not yet, *it seems*
[11:00] <trippeh> got it worked aroud in dbus for now
[11:03] <OpenTokix> trippeh: What is your aversion for RA?
[11:03] <OpenTokix> trippeh: I am curious that is
[11:07] <trippeh> sometimes in server-land you want to do a fully static config, even for gateway, thats all
[11:08] <OpenTokix> trippeh: ok
[11:09] <trippeh> say, your switch may not have the required RA filtering for it to be used securily
[11:09] <OpenTokix> you mean you get some errornous ipv6-address?
[11:09] <OpenTokix> ie. malconfigured network?
[11:10] <trippeh> say, a machine in the same VLAN gets owned, and starts announcing itself as gateway for MITM
[11:10] <OpenTokix> ok
[11:10] <OpenTokix> yes, that would be a bad thing
[11:11] <trippeh> same problem with DHCP of course. good switches can snoop/filter it as well
[14:01] <giammy2290> ho aperto qusta discussione nel forum di ubuntu http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=598243
[14:01] <giammy2290> qualcuno riesce a darmi una mano?
[14:01] <giammy2290> thx
[14:05] <giammy2290> ?
[15:11] <sgo11> hi, is that possible to try ubuntu server before installing it? I boot the usb and don't see "try ubuntu" option. thanks.
[15:12] <lordievader> sgo11: Err, as Ubuntu Server doesn't have a gui I do not think that it is possible.
[15:13] <sgo11> lordievader, there are many linux distributions run in usb (live OS). why can't I run live ubuntu server? this is nothing about GUI from my point of view...
[15:13] <lordievader> Oh it is possible, just not with the installer that the Ubuntu Server iso comes with.
[15:14] <sgo11> lordievader, got it. thanks a lot. very sad.
[15:14] <lordievader> sgo11: You could basically take one of the live-cd's and boot with the 'text' kernel parameter....
[15:16] <sgo11> lordievader, ok. I am checking http://live.debian.net/
[15:26] <zul> smb/hallyn: libvirt 1.2.16 is building in my ppa:zulcss/libvirt-testing ppa
[15:35] <hallyn> zul: cool.  i'll make a note to test that in a bit
[15:41] <jrwren> sgo11: what do you want to do? anything the server distro can do, the desktop distro can do. You can try ubuntu server by running try on the desktop.
[15:42] <sgo11> jrwren, Just want to run a live server. I am downloading debian-live-8.0.0-amd64-standard.iso now. thanks.
[15:43] <teward> sgo11: well, that's not a 'live server' either, that's a live image, it can *run* live but it's not a server
[15:43] <sgo11> teward, why is that not a server? so how can I run a proper live debian or ubuntu server? thanks.
[15:45] <jrwren> use the ubuntu live image and run?
[15:45] <jrwren> hrm, to be honest, I don't know what a liver server is. I'll leave you to it.
[15:46] <sgo11> jrwren, a live server is just booting the server from usb and load it to ram and running from ram.
[15:47] <sgo11> for example, freenas.org
[15:47] <sgo11> based on freebsd.
[15:51] <jrwren> how is that different than live desktop?
[15:54] <jpds> sgo11: I think you'll be far off running it in a VM.
[15:55] <sgo11> jrwren, I am not an expert. I am not very sure. a server supposed to have less space, faster performance etc.. because I don't need any GUI libs and because I am not an expert, i just want to find some already optimized tuned system to use.
[15:57] <DonRichie> hi, what is the best software to monitor the services of a single machine?
[15:57] <jpds> !best | DonRichie
[15:58] <sgo11> jpds, I need the server to run in a physical machine. so I am not planning to use a VM. thanks.
[15:58] <jrwren> sgo11: lordievader's suggestion of regular live cd and 'text' mode matches that. ubuntu-server is not 'tuned' any different than desktop. The difference is in default packages.
[15:58] <jpds> sgo11: In any case, you can't try Ubuntu Server like you can the desktop.
[15:58] <jpds> DonRichie: Depends on your needs, most people need to use Nagios and friends.
[16:00] <sgo11> jrwren, jpds, OK. thanks. I will try the live debian image first. not sure what is in it. just complete my download.
[16:00] <jrwren> sgo11: what server software will you run?
[16:01] <sgo11> jrwren, samba, nfs, nginx, nodejs
[16:05] <jrwren> sgo11: cool. good luck. I'd be interested in reading about your experience
[16:05] <sgo11> jrwren, thanks a lot. :)
[16:18] <marcaddeo> hey guys, i have a ubuntu server dvd and i'm at the screen that lets you decide what to do "Install ubuntu" "Test Memory" etc... im just trying to get into text mode so i can have a terminal and try and test a potentially broken hard drive and recover my zfs pool
[16:21] <tonyyarusso> marcaddeo: Second person today...no, the server DVD doesn't have a "live environment" option.  The desktop one does, or you could create something like it by installing to a flash drive.
[16:23] <marcaddeo> tonyyarusso: i see. damnit. i tried the desktop one, but it doesn't boot because the server doesnt have real graphics
[16:24] <tonyyarusso> marcaddeo: I think there's a "dumb down the graphics" option somewhere.
[16:25] <tonyyarusso> Or a couple really
[16:25] <tonyyarusso> Change the graphics type, disable splash
[16:26] <tarpman> server installer should still have rescue mode
[16:27] <tarpman> not sure if there's a menu entry for it -- if not, edit the command line, add 'rescue/enable=true' to the end (no quotes)
[16:50] <marcaddeo> tarpman: how does rescue mode work though, it goes into a command line gui screen to start doing stuff... i just would like to get into a terminal so i can run SMART and what-not
[16:51] <tarpman> marcaddeo: follow the prompts, eventually you will have the option of mounting your existing system and getting a shell in it, or just getting a shell in the installer environment
[16:52] <tarpman> marcaddeo: if you need more features (e.g. ability to install packages with apt-get) you might have better results booting a desktop dvd in text mode (add 'text' to the end of the boot command line), like tonyyarusso suggested
[17:05] <marcaddeo> tarpman: thats what im trying to do, desktop text mode but i can't get it to work
[17:05] <marcaddeo> my kvm keeps complaining about the resolution
[17:05] <tarpman> marcaddeo: ok, boot with 'text nomodeset'
[17:05] <marcaddeo> i've tried removing quiet splash, and adding -- vga=770 text
[17:05] <marcaddeo> okay
[17:07] <marcaddeo> tarpman: should i remove the quiet splash?
[17:08] <tarpman> marcaddeo: up to you. nomodeset forces splash to be disabled iirc. removing quiet just means you see more kernel messages
[17:08] <marcaddeo> also: the docs say it should be like quiet splash -- (boot options here)
[17:08] <marcaddeo> but when im editing it, it's actuall quiet splash ---
[17:08] <marcaddeo> note the third -
[17:08] <marcaddeo> should there be three?
[17:08] <tarpman> yes, with newer kernels it's ---
[17:08] <marcaddeo> ah i see
[17:09] <tarpman> just to check, which ubuntu version is your dvd? 14.04.2?
[17:09] <marcaddeo> 15.06 i think
[17:09] <tarpman> ah
[17:09] <ObrienDave> 15.04 ;p
[17:09] <marcaddeo> whateer :p
[17:09] <tarpman> 'text' doesn't work with 15.04 -- use 'systemd.unit=multi-user.target' instead
[17:09]  * tarpman really should file a bug about that
[17:09] <marcaddeo> ah!
[17:09] <marcaddeo> you may have jsut made my day much better lol
[17:14] <marcaddeo> tarpman: is nomodeset still going to work?
[17:14] <tarpman> marcaddeo: yes
[17:15] <tarpman> marcaddeo: I'm not sure how that interacts with the --- ... if it's still giving you grief, I'd try dropping those
[17:18] <marcaddeo> it worked! thank you tarpman
[17:27] <tarpman> :)
[23:01] <hallyn> zul: feh, lots of failures in qrt with libvirt 1.2.16.  they look familiar, though
[23:01] <hallyn> something to look at next methinks