[00:00] See, I would think it was that, but netstat shows that master is listening on port 25 for both * and 0.0.0.0. [00:00] Which leads me to believe it is actually listening to the port, but refusing the connection. [00:00] Scott_S: ah! if it's actually listening than firewall inspection is the next best step I think [00:00] residential ISPs doesnt like their users having spambots spewing spam :) [00:01] trippeh, Datacenter actually, but I did request port 25 traffic be permitted and they replied back stating that they had removed the restriction filter. I'll check with them again just to make sure. [00:01] Scott_S: .. it might be denied by shaw .. [00:02] sarnold, I'm able to connect to my other server properly, which is configured with Windows. It'd be ridiculous for Shaw to restrict *incoming* port 25 traffic. [00:02] Otherwise, well, no one would use IMAP. [00:03] Scott_S: I meant, if you're trying to test from your home laptop, shaw might prevent you from connecting to port 25 on the way outbound, to reduce spam.. [00:04] Scott_S: "email clients" dont really use port 25 anymore. the client to relay traffic is SMTP on port 587 [00:05] aka "submission" [00:07] * trippeh sees if this systemd-networkd thing is working [00:08] Interesting. I'm curious why Postfix is set up to use port 25 by default. [00:08] To recieve email from relays ;-) [00:09] relay -> mx is still on 25. [00:09] trippeh, so IMAP uses port 587 for actually sending mail via TLS? [00:09] no. IMAP does not usually send email at all. [00:10] Erm sorry, I meant for receiving mail. I know that smtp is for sending. [00:12] I think I may be screwing up my ports and services. I'll figure it out later. [00:12] IMAP uses different ports, none 25 [00:12] and not really related to Postfix [00:12] yeah :) [00:13] Shows how much I set up these things, I'm unable to send mail via SMTP, which is supposed to use port 25 (apparently). [00:16] Scott_S: when debugging mail problems it's best to use the simplest tools ever: nc to specific hosts, on specific ports, and hand-type the smtp sending session.. [00:16] Scott_S: test from localhost, from inside the same DC, from outside the DC, etc.. [00:16] if you're testing using full-blown MTAs you'll drive yourself insane quickly. [00:22] ok, networkd did bring up networking, thats something I guess :) [00:23] no idea how to make it set accept_ra=0 before link up hmmm === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away [04:49] sarnold, If you're still here, I simply enabled SSL smtp, which appears to have fixed the issue as I now connect via 465. Port 25 worked from localhost, just not from external network. === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [08:05] trippeh: pre-up in /etc/network/interfaces [08:06] trippeh: or just set ipv6 to manual, or add it to /etc/sysctl.conf [08:06] trippeh: You want it to use dhcp6? [08:59] Hi - I'm trying to setup an LDS for "managed" repository mirroring, can this only be accomlished with landscape-api and do I have to know all urls by head (e.g. MAAS repo, JuJu Repo, Cloud) or is there some magic command hidden somewhere? :-) [10:23] Good afternoon. [10:53] OpenTokix: that is for ifupdown, not systemd-networkd. [10:54] OpenTokix: anyway, ifupdown handles most of it without those kinds of hack [10:54] I'm just trying out the future ;) [10:56] trippeh: ok [10:56] trippeh: And the future does not include autoaccept_ra? =) [11:00] not yet, *it seems* [11:00] got it worked aroud in dbus for now [11:03] trippeh: What is your aversion for RA? [11:03] trippeh: I am curious that is [11:07] sometimes in server-land you want to do a fully static config, even for gateway, thats all [11:08] trippeh: ok [11:09] say, your switch may not have the required RA filtering for it to be used securily [11:09] you mean you get some errornous ipv6-address? [11:09] ie. malconfigured network? [11:10] say, a machine in the same VLAN gets owned, and starts announcing itself as gateway for MITM [11:10] ok [11:10] yes, that would be a bad thing [11:11] same problem with DHCP of course. good switches can snoop/filter it as well === liam_ is now known as Guest74348 [14:01] ho aperto qusta discussione nel forum di ubuntu http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=598243 [14:01] qualcuno riesce a darmi una mano? [14:01] thx [14:05] ? [15:11] hi, is that possible to try ubuntu server before installing it? I boot the usb and don't see "try ubuntu" option. thanks. [15:12] sgo11: Err, as Ubuntu Server doesn't have a gui I do not think that it is possible. [15:13] lordievader, there are many linux distributions run in usb (live OS). why can't I run live ubuntu server? this is nothing about GUI from my point of view... [15:13] Oh it is possible, just not with the installer that the Ubuntu Server iso comes with. [15:14] lordievader, got it. thanks a lot. very sad. [15:14] sgo11: You could basically take one of the live-cd's and boot with the 'text' kernel parameter.... [15:16] lordievader, ok. I am checking http://live.debian.net/ [15:26] smb/hallyn: libvirt 1.2.16 is building in my ppa:zulcss/libvirt-testing ppa [15:35] zul: cool. i'll make a note to test that in a bit [15:41] sgo11: what do you want to do? anything the server distro can do, the desktop distro can do. You can try ubuntu server by running try on the desktop. [15:42] jrwren, Just want to run a live server. I am downloading debian-live-8.0.0-amd64-standard.iso now. thanks. [15:43] sgo11: well, that's not a 'live server' either, that's a live image, it can *run* live but it's not a server [15:43] teward, why is that not a server? so how can I run a proper live debian or ubuntu server? thanks. [15:45] use the ubuntu live image and run? [15:45] hrm, to be honest, I don't know what a liver server is. I'll leave you to it. [15:46] jrwren, a live server is just booting the server from usb and load it to ram and running from ram. [15:47] for example, freenas.org [15:47] based on freebsd. [15:51] how is that different than live desktop? [15:54] sgo11: I think you'll be far off running it in a VM. [15:55] jrwren, I am not an expert. I am not very sure. a server supposed to have less space, faster performance etc.. because I don't need any GUI libs and because I am not an expert, i just want to find some already optimized tuned system to use. [15:57] hi, what is the best software to monitor the services of a single machine? [15:57] !best | DonRichie [15:58] jpds, I need the server to run in a physical machine. so I am not planning to use a VM. thanks. === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [15:58] sgo11: lordievader's suggestion of regular live cd and 'text' mode matches that. ubuntu-server is not 'tuned' any different than desktop. The difference is in default packages. [15:58] sgo11: In any case, you can't try Ubuntu Server like you can the desktop. [15:58] DonRichie: Depends on your needs, most people need to use Nagios and friends. [16:00] jrwren, jpds, OK. thanks. I will try the live debian image first. not sure what is in it. just complete my download. [16:00] sgo11: what server software will you run? [16:01] jrwren, samba, nfs, nginx, nodejs [16:05] sgo11: cool. good luck. I'd be interested in reading about your experience [16:05] jrwren, thanks a lot. :) [16:18] hey guys, i have a ubuntu server dvd and i'm at the screen that lets you decide what to do "Install ubuntu" "Test Memory" etc... im just trying to get into text mode so i can have a terminal and try and test a potentially broken hard drive and recover my zfs pool [16:21] marcaddeo: Second person today...no, the server DVD doesn't have a "live environment" option. The desktop one does, or you could create something like it by installing to a flash drive. [16:23] tonyyarusso: i see. damnit. i tried the desktop one, but it doesn't boot because the server doesnt have real graphics [16:24] marcaddeo: I think there's a "dumb down the graphics" option somewhere. [16:25] Or a couple really [16:25] Change the graphics type, disable splash [16:26] server installer should still have rescue mode [16:27] not sure if there's a menu entry for it -- if not, edit the command line, add 'rescue/enable=true' to the end (no quotes) [16:50] tarpman: how does rescue mode work though, it goes into a command line gui screen to start doing stuff... i just would like to get into a terminal so i can run SMART and what-not [16:51] marcaddeo: follow the prompts, eventually you will have the option of mounting your existing system and getting a shell in it, or just getting a shell in the installer environment [16:52] marcaddeo: if you need more features (e.g. ability to install packages with apt-get) you might have better results booting a desktop dvd in text mode (add 'text' to the end of the boot command line), like tonyyarusso suggested [17:05] tarpman: thats what im trying to do, desktop text mode but i can't get it to work [17:05] my kvm keeps complaining about the resolution [17:05] marcaddeo: ok, boot with 'text nomodeset' [17:05] i've tried removing quiet splash, and adding -- vga=770 text [17:05] okay [17:07] tarpman: should i remove the quiet splash? [17:08] marcaddeo: up to you. nomodeset forces splash to be disabled iirc. removing quiet just means you see more kernel messages [17:08] also: the docs say it should be like quiet splash -- (boot options here) [17:08] but when im editing it, it's actuall quiet splash --- [17:08] note the third - [17:08] should there be three? [17:08] yes, with newer kernels it's --- [17:08] ah i see [17:09] just to check, which ubuntu version is your dvd? 14.04.2? [17:09] 15.06 i think [17:09] ah [17:09] 15.04 ;p [17:09] whateer :p [17:09] 'text' doesn't work with 15.04 -- use 'systemd.unit=multi-user.target' instead [17:09] * tarpman really should file a bug about that [17:09] ah! [17:09] you may have jsut made my day much better lol [17:14] tarpman: is nomodeset still going to work? [17:14] marcaddeo: yes [17:15] marcaddeo: I'm not sure how that interacts with the --- ... if it's still giving you grief, I'd try dropping those [17:18] it worked! thank you tarpman [17:27] :) === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [23:01] zul: feh, lots of failures in qrt with libvirt 1.2.16. they look familiar, though [23:01] something to look at next methinks === zz_DenBeiren is now known as DenBeiren === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away