[06:00] <Kilos> morning all
[06:04] <Kilos> morning superfly  
[06:08]  * Kilos waves to tumbleweed
[06:17] <Kilos> hi barrydk  koud ne
[06:17] <barrydk> Morning everyone
[06:18] <barrydk> Hi Kilos, neeman lekker man lekker
[06:18] <Kilos> ai! jy moet pikkewyn bloed he
[06:19] <barrydk> sies man hoe kan jy nou so se
[06:19] <Kilos> grass is white with the frost
[06:19] <Kilos> haha
[06:19] <barrydk> nou kan al die ongewenste insekte ook vrek
[06:20] <Kilos> ja die wat nie onder goed wegkruip nie
[06:21] <tumbleweed> hi Kilos
[06:21] <Kilos> you well tumbleweed  ?
[06:21] <tumbleweed> pretty good, yep. You?
[06:22] <Kilos> good ty
[06:22] <barrydk> Ek glo ons moet 'n koue winter he om 'n nat somer te he
[06:23] <Kilos> well if it doesnt get so cold there wont be peaches, plums pears etc next summer
[06:23] <Kilos> but i think we have more drought coming
[06:26] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:26] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[06:49] <superfly> hi, morning
[06:57] <mazal> More superfly , kilos
[06:57] <mazal> I'm freeekin freeeeeezing
[06:57] <Kilos> yeah very cold, even sun got no power
[06:57] <barrydk> Hi superfly
[06:57] <barrydk> More mazal
[06:57] <mazal> I'm on my 3rd coffee and it aint helping lol
[06:57] <Kilos> inetpro  must be a block of ice after biking to work
[06:58] <mazal> More oom barry
[06:58] <barrydk> Eks nie met jou antie getroud nie mazal
[06:58] <mazal> Gaan pluk vir my paar geel blomme man
[06:59] <Kilos> lol
[06:59] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:59] <barrydk> more inetpro
[06:59] <mazal> Morning inetpro
[06:59] <Kilos> hi inetpro  cold hey?
[07:09] <Kilos> hi Xethron  
[07:21] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac  
[07:36] <gremble> o/
[07:36] <gremble> Good morning folks
[07:38] <Kilos> hi gremble  please give me the link for those lappies again, i cant scroll back far enough
[07:39] <Kilos> and finding logs drives me nuts
[07:40] <Kilos> i dunno why konversation doesnt scroll back the 1800 lines i set it to do
[07:40] <Kilos> grrr
[07:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[07:46] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[08:25] <magespawn> good morning
[08:27] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[08:29] <Kilos> gremble  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2117760
[08:29] <Kilos> i think thats the prob with them, must be fixable
[08:30] <Kilos> telkom tech should be here around 11am so then we see how fast we can get things going
[08:39] <magespawn> what are they coming to do Kilos ?
[08:39] <Kilos> to speed up my connection magespawn  
[08:39] <gremble> Hey Kilos 
[08:40] <gremble> It is a guy on my facebook that is selling them
[08:40] <Kilos> aha
[08:45] <Kilos> would be nice to get one to work on then once you have the fix sorted buy and sell them
[08:45] <Kilos> but for win peeps its easy
[09:23] <Kilos> magespawn  my tower needs to be upgraded to lte, tech guy will put in a recomendation
[09:25] <Kilos> recommendation
[09:26] <Kilos> i wanna fly
[09:36] <mazal> Green herbs can help oom :)
[09:46] <Kilos> lol
[09:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-D
[11:26] <Kilos> hello SDCDev  
[12:19] <pieter2627> Kilos: Cryterion is a new guy, right?
[12:20] <Kilos> yip
[12:21]  * pieter2627 then needs to remember to be friendly
[12:22] <Kilos> what happened?
[12:22] <Kilos> lol
[12:23] <Kilos> he has been in and out the last couple of days
[12:23] <Kilos> hi Cryterion  
[12:23] <Kilos> methinks ThatGraemeGuy  knows him from minetest
[12:24] <Cryterion> hi
[12:24] <Cryterion> probably :)
[12:24] <mazal> Hi Cryterion , pieter2627 , oom Kilos
[12:24] <mazal> and inetpro :)
[12:25] <Kilos> lol hi mazal  
[12:25] <pieter2627> hi mazal and Cryterion 
[12:25] <pieter2627> and also welcome Cryterion 
[12:25]  * mazal notes agenda for weekend
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> hrm
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> ya that
[12:26] <mazal> Bed , ps3 , pc , repeat
[12:26] <pieter2627> Kilos: nothing I was just too lazy to greet before
[12:26] <Cryterion> lol
[12:26] <Kilos> hahaha
[12:26] <pieter2627> mazal: condition for the repeat :p
[12:27] <mazal> I should probably add eat in there somewhere also
[12:29] <Cryterion> might help
[12:29] <Kilos> haha no he needs to diet
[12:30] <mazal> Kilos: I am lean and mean
[12:30] <mazal> No need to diet
[12:30] <Kilos> haha
[12:30]  * Cryterion open a beer, gets ready to wait for telkom to answer
[12:30] <Kilos> oh thats why you get cold easy like me
[12:30] <mazal> Oh man that's not good Cryterion , good luck
[12:31] <Kilos> whats the prob with telkom Cryterion  ?
[12:31] <Kilos> they help me always , just takes a while
[12:31] <Cryterion> did deposit, need to phone payment through so they can go ahead and install my second line
[12:32] <Kilos> aha
[12:32] <Cryterion> Most of time I give up after waiting on the phone for an hour
[12:32] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:39] <gremble> o/
[12:39] <Kilos> o/
[12:40] <Kilos> Cryterion  tweet them
[12:40] <Kilos> @TelkomZA
[12:41] <superfly> ohi
[12:48] <Cryterion> lol, they can't even find my order on their system now, lol
[12:49] <Kilos> lol
[12:49] <Kilos> there is another tweet place that helps push things
[12:51] <mazal> Bye everyone , enjoy the weekend. God bless
[12:51] <Kilos> cheers mazal  
[12:52] <Cryterion> bye, enjoy
[12:52] <Kilos> you too
[12:53] <Kilos> Cryterion  do you tweet?
[12:53] <Kilos> https://twitter.com/hellotelkom
[12:53] <Kilos> thats kinda like their helpline goodie
[12:56] <Cryterion> never used twitter
[12:56] <Kilos> ah
[12:56] <Cryterion> seems like they've found it now
[12:56] <Kilos> yay
[12:56] <Kilos> lol
[12:57] <Cryterion> They had closed it, so have to reopen the order
[12:57] <Kilos> eish
[12:57] <gremble> Why did they close it>
[12:57] <gremble> >.>
[12:57] <Kilos> left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing
[12:58] <Cryterion> automatic apparently after 7 days
[13:01] <superfly> that's how they keep their issue tracking stats looking good :-P
[13:01] <Kilos> lol
[13:01] <Cryterion> lol
[13:37] <magespawn> if pc last then repeat
[13:38] <Kilos> lol
[13:38] <Kilos> you get there sooner or later hey
[13:39] <magespawn> pieter2627: if pc last then repeat
[13:48] <magespawn> sorry bit slow
[13:49] <Kilos> lol np man
[13:49] <magespawn> also forgot i was reading scroll back
[13:49] <Kilos> haha i do that as well
[15:29] <magespawn> home time for me, good night
[15:30] <Kilos> cheers magespawn  
[15:30] <Kilos> later
[16:53] <Kilos> sjoe maar dis lelik koud
[16:53] <Kilos> brrrr
[16:54] <gremble> It's getting quite cold
[16:54] <Kilos> water was iced this morning and temp gonna be 2°c less tonight'
[16:55] <gremble> I shouldve gotten a girlfriend for the winter
[16:55] <Kilos> lol
[16:55] <Kilos> 2 would be better
[16:56] <gremble> Ah but one is already a lot of work
[16:56] <Kilos> tell me about it
[17:29]  * Cryterion scratches head
[17:29]  * gremble scratches Cryterion's head
[17:29] <Kilos> lol
[17:30] <gremble> When it is cold and the sun is down, I like to stop pretending that I am adult
[17:30] <Kilos> rofl
[17:31] <Cryterion> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[17:31] <Cryterion> hmmm, rats active on keyboard again
[17:32] <gremble> I'm listening to the New York Ska-jazz ensemble
[17:32] <gremble> They're quite good
[17:40] <inetpro> hmm...
[17:41] <Kilos> Maaz  hmm...
[17:41] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[17:41] <gremble> It's the sound I make when eating a very nice apply pie
[17:41] <Kilos> lol
[17:43] <inetpro> those rats working their way towards the cheese?
[17:46] <inetpro> it's a rat race
[17:46] <Kilos> lol clever
[17:47] <Kilos> took a while to think it out though
[17:47] <Kilos> brain frozen
[17:47] <inetpro> ai!
[17:47] <Kilos> cold hey inetpro  
[17:47] <inetpro> last night was worse
[17:47] <Kilos> nono
[17:47] <Kilos> you were just less active
[17:48] <inetpro> Kilos: how did the meeting go?
[17:48] <Kilos> very well ty
[17:48] <Kilos> the french are very active
[17:49] <Kilos> and clever too
[17:49] <inetpro> it's your fault
[17:49] <Kilos> why?
[17:49] <inetpro> you started it all
[17:49] <Kilos> started what?
[17:50] <inetpro> you and your africa channel woke them up again
[17:50] <inetpro> I think
[17:50] <Kilos> lol i even invited them to help out today
[17:51] <Kilos> the sly guy in africa is from there
[17:51] <Kilos> and my tunisian makes a good chair
[17:52]  * inetpro rests his case
[17:52] <Kilos> its your fault
[17:52] <Kilos> you and fly
[17:52] <inetpro> haha, now don't you go shifting the blame
[17:52] <Kilos> life was so much easier being a greeter bot
[17:54] <Kilos> i even miss guys here
[17:54] <Kilos> sigh
[17:56] <gremble> its ok, inetpro will code the functionality into Maaz when he gets the opportunity
[17:56] <gremble> then it can greet people
[17:56] <Kilos> superfly  when you get some time can you do a merge on the afrika site please, to fix those niggles
[17:56] <gremble> ^ I am laughting so hard to that sentence
[17:56] <Kilos> lol
[17:57] <inetpro> gremble: ai!
[17:57] <Kilos> i had a greeter script for ibids gremble  but it needs some work
[17:57] <Kilos> a whole day of python work
[17:59] <Kilos> if the bot joins a channel it greets everyone with its greeting, but 1 by 1
[17:59] <Kilos> so major spam
[18:00] <gremble> I was teasing. Please don't add that functionality to a bot. It is really unneccessary
[18:00] <Kilos> nono it made my life easy
[18:00] <gremble> Better would be to have ibid access the weather underground api so you can ask it the weather
[18:00] <Kilos> was very lekker
[18:00] <Kilos> Maaz  forecast pretoria
[18:00] <Maaz> Kilos: Friday: Clear. High: 16° C., Friday Night: Clear. Low: 3° C., Saturday: Clear. High: 16° C., Saturday Night: Clear. Low: 2° C., Sunday: Clear. High: 17° C., Sunday Night: Clear. Low: 2° C., Monday: Clear. High: 19° C., Monday Night: Clear. Low: 4° C., Tuesday: Clear. High: 21° C., Tuesday Night: Clear. Low: 5° C., Wednesday: Partly Cloudy. High:
[18:00] <Maaz> 19° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 5° C., Thursday: Chance of Rain. High: 18° …
[18:01] <gremble> Oh it can
[18:01] <gremble> Nice
[18:03] <Kilos> ibids are great bots
[18:07] <Kilos> Cryterion  i forgot to ask you
[18:07] <Kilos> tell us a bit about yourself
[18:15] <magespawn> good evening
[18:15] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[18:18] <Cryterion> Kilos, average type of person I guess, I work, play, eat sleep etc, :)
[18:18] <Kilos> lol
[18:18] <Kilos> no man
[18:18] <gremble> He is a robot
[18:19] <gremble> I can see it in the generality of the response
[18:19] <Kilos> where do you work , what system do you use
[18:19]  * Cryterion lol
[18:19] <Kilos> what town are you in
[18:19] <Kilos> what kind of work do you do
[18:19] <Cryterion> I'm process control and automation, mainly for the Baking/Food industry
[18:20] <Kilos> can you help noobs here or do you need help 
[18:21] <gremble> I have something fun for you guys to do while you are sitting around and being bored. Collatz sequences. Take a number, if it is even divide it by two, if it is odd, multiply by 3 and add 1. The number you get is then your next number
[18:21] <Cryterion> I can help where I can, I'm still learning Linux atm, only been on the os about 2 years now 
[18:21] <gremble> It is thought that for any starting number, the sequences ends at 1
[18:21] <Kilos> ai! grumbles
[18:21] <Kilos> he is busy introducing himself
[18:21] <Cryterion> Programming etc is not a problem, embedded c is my background
[18:22] <gremble> I want to learn embedded c. :c
[18:23] <Kilos> sounds good Cryterion  go on
[18:23] <Cryterion> same as normal c, except not object driven, but goes back to interrupt driven/cycles, no thread options
[18:23] <Kilos> we need clever peeps here to help me
[18:23]  * superfly has done a fair amount of embedded C and C++
[18:23] <Cryterion> www.anmarbaking.co.za
[18:24] <Kilos> ai! now you make me hungry
[18:24] <Cryterion> That website will let you know what I do
[18:25] <Cryterion> lol
[18:25] <superfly> Cryterion: I work for http://nomanini.com
[18:25] <Kilos> ah in banana valley
[18:26] <Cryterion> I range from embedded coding, pc coding, right through to design/selection of refrigeration electrical (high current) and steel fabrication
[18:26] <gremble> banana valley?
[18:26] <Cryterion> Sounds like Natal
[18:26] <Kilos> natal
[18:26] <Kilos> lol
[18:26] <Cryterion> Durban myself
[18:27] <Kilos> nice you must meet some of the guys down there
[18:27] <magespawn> Cryterion: cools beans, there are few people from here and DLUG in and around Durban, i am up in hluhluwe
[18:27] <Kilos> oh inetpro , i just woke up, 
[18:27] <Kilos> wwk wasnt at the meeting
[18:28] <Kilos> and jacques-stry has been scarce
[18:28] <Cryterion> hluhluwe just up the road
[18:29] <magespawn> aways up the road
[18:30] <Cryterion> Sometimes travel around, so know most of the country already
[18:31] <Kilos> sounds good Cryterion  nice to have you here
[18:31] <Kilos> how did you find us
[18:31] <Cryterion> Thanks
[18:32] <Cryterion> Got onto freenode through minetest, thatgraemeguy and I run the SA minetest server
[18:32] <Kilos> cool
[18:32] <Cryterion> realised most of the SA guys were here as well, so hoped along
[18:33] <Kilos> do you use ubuntu?
[18:33] <Cryterion> yep
[18:33] <Kilos> unity?
[18:34] <Cryterion> no, don't know enough about it yet
[18:34] <Kilos> ubuntu out the box is unity
[18:34] <Kilos> sympathies
[18:35] <Kilos> mind you maybe its better now
[18:35] <Cryterion> I run ubuntu on all my computers, but unfortunately at work I have to let some run on windows :(
[18:35] <Kilos> it actually works well when working
[18:35] <superfly> gremble: http://bin.snyman.info/56k4f
[18:36] <Kilos> most guys have to use win at work
[18:36] <superfly> Cryterion: what micro's do you use?
[18:37] <Cryterion> I still have to use windows for only 1 thing, just until I find a good cad prog to compete with autocad
[18:37] <superfly> Cryterion: ah yes, CAD is something that is still mostly Windows-only
[18:37] <MaNI> this is why kvm was invented
[18:38] <superfly> Cryterion: one of the guys on our team dual-boots because he doubles as an industrial designer
[18:38] <MaNI> keep that windows bottled away where it can't hurt anything :p
[18:38] <Cryterion> micro's I use are still 8051 arch, busy working on dev atm to go next level
[18:39] <Cryterion> I run VirtualBox, although I should've gone dual boot
[18:40] <Cryterion> But VB helps as only require windows for autocad, wine just doesn't work for it yet
[18:40] <gremble> superfly: bin.snyman.info/v8bx5
[18:40] <Kilos> oh gremble  btw flashrom might be able to sort those lappies
[18:41] <superfly> Cryterion: we currently use HCS08
[18:41] <superfly> (in particular, Freescale GT16A
[18:42] <Kilos> Cryterion  superfly  is our python mamba
[18:42] <Kilos> and just about everything else as well
[18:43] <superfly> gremble: haskell?
[18:43] <Kilos> builds great sites
[18:43] <gremble> superfly: Yup
[18:43] <superfly> gremble: I could probably make the Python more functional, but I prefer being able to read what I write :-P
[18:43] <Cryterion> kwl
[18:44] <gremble> Hahaha 
[18:44] <gremble> Granted
[18:45] <superfly> Yeah, that's my only gripe with functional programming languages, they tend to be unreadable
[18:45] <magespawn> i can sort of understand the python but the other, i have no idea what it does
[18:45] <Kilos> Cryterion  are you on lp yet?
[18:45] <Kilos> hi solidity  
[18:45] <solidity> hi
[18:46] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[18:46] <Cryterion> lp?
[18:46] <Kilos> launchpad
[18:46] <gremble> The top one recursively calls itself. if it is even, it builds a list (the : constructor) where the next number is made with the function
[18:46] <gremble> same with when it is odd
[18:46] <Cryterion> Yes
[18:46] <gremble> the last two are helper functions
[18:46] <Kilos> cool then you can join us there too Cryterion  
[18:46] <superfly> gremble: yep, I can figure that out, but it took me a while
[18:46] <Cryterion> Can't sign the code of conduct as website won't accept key
[18:46] <Kilos> inetpro  link please
[18:47] <inetpro> link link link... for what?
[18:47] <Kilos> za on lp
[18:47] <gremble> I'm not going to lie. After playing around with haskell, I think it is starting to become my new favourite language
[18:47] <solidity> I don't like ubuntu at all, can I still hang out here?
[18:47] <superfly> gremble: I've heard a few people say that.
[18:47] <Kilos> solidity  yes
[18:47] <gremble> yup solidity. They haven't chased me away yet
[18:47] <gremble> :P
[18:47] <solidity> cool
[18:47] <Kilos> what do you like
[18:48] <inetpro> Kilos: you mean this one?
[18:48] <inetpro> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za
[18:48] <Kilos> there Cryterion  
[18:48] <Kilos> i hope so ty inetpro  
[18:48] <solidity> While I'm functionally useless with it and still learning the basics: Gentoo.
[18:48] <Kilos> ya tick join
[18:48] <Cryterion> Joined
[18:48] <Kilos> ah we need a gentoo man here
[18:48] <inetpro> Kilos: isn't this stuff all on our website at https://ubuntu-za.org ?
[18:49] <Kilos> Cryterion  solidity  go see https://ubuntu-za.org
[18:49] <Kilos> Cryterion  when something doesnt work then you call mrfixit
[18:49] <inetpro> sorry Kilos
[18:49]  * inetpro was not following the conversation
[18:50] <Kilos> np inetpro  
[18:50] <Kilos> you always there when needed
[18:50] <Cryterion> Kilos: I did go through the page, link is in topic I think
[18:51] <Kilos> cool and we have a how to on singing the coc
[18:51] <Kilos> i had to get help from mrfixit and the fly
[18:52] <Cryterion> Read through etc, and also got to the meeting minutes etc, only thing I could complete was sending in my public key, website just wouldn't accept it
[18:52] <Cryterion> couldn't complete*
[18:53] <Kilos> i think we have an easier how to
[18:53] <Kilos> lemme try find it
[18:54] <Kilos> Cryterion  http://bin.snyman.info/mke5s
[18:54] <Kilos> try that
[18:54] <Kilos> if it doesnt work call mrfixit
[18:55] <Kilos> that coc was a nightmare
[18:57] <Kilos> i need to go get a hot water bottle
[18:58] <Cryterion> warm bed :)
[18:59] <Kilos> desktop dont work in bed
[18:59] <Kilos> on my knees with a blanket over helps
[19:00]  * Cryterion needs 191 bytes of random data
[19:00] <solidity> I'm wearing two pairs of pants.
[19:00] <solidity> And a blanket.
[19:00] <Kilos> you in the tvl?
[19:01] <Kilos> just type something Cryterion  
[19:01] <solidity> Get a cat to walk over your keyboard.
[19:01] <Kilos> it will tell you when its enough
[19:01] <Cryterion> down to 94 bytes now lol
[19:01] <Kilos> lol
[19:02] <Cryterion> hmm, cats nots here, otherwise she would
[19:02] <gremble> pipe from /dev/random? 
[19:05] <Cryterion> Nope, failed again, says it either not correct, or I've pushed it to a server already
[19:05] <gremble> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe57yiyTwkA
[19:07] <Kilos> oh my
[19:07] <Cryterion> Key is 10 block of 4 char's
[19:08] <Kilos> superfly  inetpro  can one of you advise pleas
[19:08] <Kilos> e
[19:09] <superfly> huh?
[19:09] <Kilos> the coc thing
[19:09] <Kilos> for Cryterion  
[19:10] <Cryterion> Can't register my public key on launchpad
[19:13] <gremble> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTERCAL
[19:16] <Kilos> Cryterion  how far did it get before?
[19:16] <Kilos> same place?
[19:16] <Kilos> and same pc
[19:20] <Cryterion> Same place, login, put fingerprint in, and says that, same pc, first 2 keys I made from work, new one now on via my cell
[19:21] <Cryterion> But same pc, so will need to remove the other keys again
[19:21] <Kilos> you can only use on pc , i think it matches to that pc
[19:21] <Kilos> or same drive at least i dont know enough
[19:21] <Cryterion> only doing it on pc, just on mobile inet connection atm
[19:22] <Kilos> just know i had to do it twice from 2 different pcs
[19:22] <Kilos> oh
[19:23] <Cryterion> or move your key with I believe
[19:23] <Kilos> i dont think you can use it from another pc at all
[19:24] <Cryterion> 1 way to find out, once I get this one working and get my other laptop working properly again I'll try 
[19:25] <Kilos> one day ill find someone that can give me the info
[19:26] <Cryterion> best way to learn is to try it out
[19:31] <Kilos> im asking the main peeps
[19:31] <Cryterion> kwl
[19:32] <Kilos>  it has nothing to do with the computer you sign it on, it's all about the gpg key you sign it with
[19:32] <Kilos> [05/06/2015 21:31] <pleia2> you can move your gpg key to other systems 
[19:33] <Kilos>  you should make sure you back up your key, if you lose it there's no way to recover it, I suggest reading this: https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/c481.html
[19:33] <Cryterion> yep, that's what I thought, you have you priv key, and there's a pub key, you need the priv key on the new hardware
[19:33] <Kilos> [05/06/2015 21:33] <Kilos> ty will do
[19:33] <Kilos> [05/06/2015 21:33] <pleia2> especially "Protecting your private key"
[19:34] <Cryterion> Yep, that key is private, and needs to be kept ultra safe
[19:35] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:35] <Cryterion> and somewhere where you can get to it
[19:37] <Kilos> well
[19:37] <magespawn> just finished watching ex machina
[19:37] <Kilos> fix yours and save in inna safe place
[19:37] <Cryterion> Got some random bytes for Me
[19:38] <Kilos> just type stuff man
[19:38] <Kilos> the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dogs back
[19:39] <Kilos> i think that has all the letters of the alphabet in
[19:39] <Cryterion> doesn't seem to work in gedit lol
[19:39] <Cryterion> but prob helped
[19:39] <Cryterion> nah didn't
[19:40] <Cryterion> the slow grey fox jumped over snoopy and landed on his back
[19:40] <Cryterion> grrr
[19:40] <Kilos> lol
[19:41] <Russ_> oh hai
[19:41] <Kilos> once i got to where you need to type in it just worked after that
[19:41] <Kilos> hi Russ_  
[19:41] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[19:42] <Kilos> you been here before?
[19:42] <Russ_> hi Kilos welcome to IRC
[19:42] <Russ_> no sir
[19:42] <Cryterion> Hi Russ
[19:42] <Kilos> how did you find us Russ_  
[19:42] <Russ_> my mysterious ways
[19:42] <Kilos> lol
[19:42] <Russ_> that and MaNI spilled the beans
[19:43] <Kilos> aha thats fine
[19:43] <Kilos> you welcome here
[19:43] <Russ_> fine?
[19:43] <Russ_> lol
[19:43]  * solidity blames MaNI too.
[19:43] <Russ_> like am I priviledged to be allowed here?
[19:43] <Kilos> no we welcome all linux users
[19:43] <superfly> Russ_: you need to update nginx :-P
[19:44] <Kilos> just takes long to find them
[19:44] <Russ_> but I'm really lazy
[19:44] <Kilos> oh you know him superfly  ?
[19:44] <Russ_> no
[19:44] <Russ_> he likely whois'd me
[19:44] <Russ_> went to my website
[19:44] <Kilos> lol
[19:44] <Russ_> scanned it
[19:44] <Russ_> etc
[19:44] <superfly> Kilos: no, I just went to his site, and it was running nginx
[19:45] <Russ_> back traced me ;D
[19:45] <superfly> Russ_: I don't usually bother doing that much
[19:45] <superfly> but I've traced people that way before
[19:45] <Russ_> so what did you do this time then?
[19:46] <Kilos> hes looking for business
[19:46] <inetpro> ai! :-)
[19:47] <inetpro> Kilos: tall him about cloaking
[19:47] <inetpro> tell as well
[19:47] <inetpro> Russ_: welcome to #ubuntu-za
[19:47] <Russ_> thanks
[19:48] <Russ_> very welcoming while people try to fiddle with my stuff :p
[19:48] <magespawn> bed time, good night all
[19:48] <Cryterion> Kilos: didn't work again, I'll try again in the morning
[19:48] <gremble> Good night magespawn 
[19:48] <Kilos> Russ_  you can /j #freenode and ask staff for a cloak
[19:48] <Kilos> night mage
[19:48] <inetpro> Russ_: your site without the "www." gives us a 404 error
[19:48] <gremble> It is how they do
[19:48] <Russ_> I know inetpro 
[19:48] <inetpro> ah
[19:49] <Russ_> :)
[19:50] <Kilos> one dog face
[19:50] <Russ_> ya nothing for you guys to see
[19:50] <Russ_> :p
[19:50] <Kilos> not even smiling
[19:50] <gremble> xD
[19:50] <Russ_> grumpy dog
[19:50] <gremble> They're so judgemental
[19:50] <Russ_> aye
[19:50] <Russ_> 'welcome russ' xD
[19:51] <inetpro> maybe even helpful?
[19:52]  * Russ_ gets his arse into gear
[19:52] <Kilos> inetpro  tell Cryterion  how to fix his coc signing man
[19:52] <Russ_> I'll update it then
[19:52] <Russ_> :/
[19:53] <inetpro> Kilos: btw, please ask your colleagues on the board to get someone to update the map at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[19:53] <inetpro> surely we now have more members in Africa?
[19:53] <Kilos> why me?
[19:53] <inetpro> is it not part of your duties on the board?
[19:54] <Kilos> nono i welcome new members
[19:54] <Cryterion> hmm, map only shows jhb
[19:54] <inetpro> ai!
[19:54] <Kilos> and make them coffee
[19:54] <solidity> whole of africa: only jhb
[19:54] <Kilos> doesnt it show tunisia
[19:54] <solidity> oh there is eqypt
[19:55] <solidity> and tunisia, and then some other country I don't know
[19:55] <Kilos> sows 3 man
[19:55] <solidity> sierra leone I thnk
[19:55] <Kilos> shows
[19:55] <solidity> think*
[19:55] <superfly> Kilos: Hellooooooo, I'm in Cape Town.
[19:55] <Kilos> inetpro  i think it only shows approved locos
[19:55] <Cryterion> gotta zoom in, only 3 in sa
[19:55] <Cryterion> Pta, Jhb
[19:56] <superfly> http://people.ubuntu.com/~chilicuil/ubuntumembers-map.html
[19:56] <Kilos> hahaha superfly  thats before my time but ill point my date eater at them
[19:57] <Kilos> our loco doenst have a single focal point does it
[19:57] <inetpro> Cryterion: you still struggling with the coc?
[19:58] <inetpro> Kilos: othe map is about members
[19:58] <inetpro> s/othe/the/
[19:58] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:58] <Cryterion> inetpro: yes
[19:59] <Cryterion> it won't accept the fingerprint
[19:59] <inetpro> Cryterion: hmm...
[19:59] <Kilos> i wonder who owns that one
[19:59] <Cryterion> I do
[19:59] <Kilos> http://people.ubuntu.com/~chilicuil/ubuntumembers-map.html
[19:59] <Kilos> that one
[20:00] <Cryterion> ?
[20:00] <Kilos> lol the site
[20:01] <Kilos> not the fingerprint
[20:01] <inetpro> Kilos: maybe https://launchpad.net/~chilicuil
[20:01] <Kilos> sigh
[20:01] <Cryterion> lol
[20:02] <Kilos> inetpro  you ask him, tell him fly sent you
[20:02] <inetpro> Kilos: haha
[20:02] <Kilos> lol
[20:02] <inetpro> Cryterion: perhaps if you explain what you did we can try to help
[20:03] <Cryterion> created pgp key as per guideslines, entered it, and it fails
[20:04] <Cryterion> made sure I reloged in and tried again, failed
[20:04] <inetpro> Cryterion: sorry, which guidelines did you follow?
[20:04] <Kilos> those from mazal inetpro  
[20:04] <Cryterion> the site ones first then cleared all keys and started again with http://bin.snyman.info/mke5s
[20:05] <Kilos> and the ones from site
[20:05]  * Kilos goes to mail that chili guy
[20:06] <Cryterion> Site ones I checked were in the "In both cases, you need to use your OpenPGP key. Here you can tell Launchpad which keys you want to use. (Learn more about OpenPGP keys)" part
[20:08] <inetpro> not sure I even understand those guidelines
[20:09] <inetpro> like it's starting somewhere in the middle of some process
[20:10] <Kilos> ya maybe i saved it wron, look in trello and see if i missed something
[20:10] <Kilos> sorry
[20:10] <inetpro> maybe the starting point should be the help guide
[20:10] <inetpro> https://help.launchpad.net/Signing%20the%20Ubuntu%20Code%20of%20Conduct
[20:11] <Cryterion> I tried that, but you have to register your pgp key first, and that's where the problem is
[20:12] <inetpro> hmm... been so long ago that I had to do this
[20:13] <Kilos> thats exactly what you said last time
[20:13] <Cryterion> I know going back on things can be difficult ;)
[20:13] <Kilos> kinda deja veaux thing
[20:14] <Kilos> i forget how to spell that
[20:14] <Cryterion> so have I
[20:14] <Cryterion> deja vu 
[20:14] <inetpro> déjà vu
[20:14] <Cryterion> french I think, not englidh
[20:15] <Kilos> ya that ty
[20:15] <Kilos> as long as you understand what i mean thats cool
[20:15] <Cryterion> yip lol
[20:26] <Kilos> ok superfly  hopefully he reacts
[20:26] <Kilos> if he comes online when im asleep please someone chat to him
[20:27] <Kilos> chilicuil on irc.freenode.net
[20:27]  * inetpro just created a new key
[20:27] <inetpro> Key block added to key server database. New public keys added
[20:27] <Cryterion> which key?
[20:28] <inetpro> Cryterion: I added my key to http://keyserver.ubuntu.com
[20:29] <Cryterion> inetpro: that's for extracting keys
[20:30] <inetpro> now this is where I don't get the option 'Register an OpenPGP key' on launchpad
[20:30] <inetpro> already signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
[20:31] <Kilos> lol
[20:31] <Kilos> i need to sleep guys
[20:31] <inetpro> ahh... but I found how I can do it again
[20:31] <Kilos> see you all tomorrow
[20:32] <inetpro> https://launchpad.net/~USER/+editpgpkeys
[20:32] <Kilos> night all, sleep tight
[20:33] <inetpro> Cryterion: gpg --fingerprint
[20:35] <stickyboy> Nairobig GNU/Linux Users Group meeting tomorrow... who is coming?
[20:36] <inetpro> stickyboy: sounds like fun, bit far from here
[20:36] <inetpro> enjoy it
[20:36] <stickyboy> :P
[20:37] <stickyboy> The company I accused of violating the GPL last month will apparently come.
[20:39] <inetpro> Cryterion:  A message has been sent to me--at--my.address.com, encrypted with the key ####/########. To confirm the key is yours, decrypt the message and follow the link inside. 
[20:41] <Cryterion> Not here yet, will check in a few mins
[20:41] <inetpro> Cryterion: but did you get this far?
[20:42] <Cryterion> No, won't send the message as won't accept the key
[20:42] <inetpro> did you get the proper output from  gpg --fingerprint ?
[20:42] <inetpro> note the double - character
[20:43] <Cryterion> yes
[20:43] <inetpro> what error do you get?
[20:44] <Cryterion> Launchpad could not import your OpenPGP key
[20:44] <Cryterion> Did you enter your complete fingerprint correctly? (Help with fingerprints)
[20:44] <Cryterion> Is your key in the Ubuntu keyserver yet? You may have to wait between ten minutes (if you pushed directly to the Ubuntu key server) and one hour (if you pushed your key to another server). (Help with publishing keys)
[20:44] <Cryterion> that error
[20:45] <inetpro> hmm... 
[20:45] <inetpro> looks like the previous step failed 
[20:46] <Cryterion> which previous step
[20:46] <inetpro> from http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/add you should have gotten the message
[20:46] <inetpro> Key block added to key server database. New public keys added:
[20:46] <inetpro> 1 key(s) added successfully.
[20:48] <Cryterion> Should have, it won't accept so it's sending that
[20:49] <Cryterion> not*
[20:51] <Cryterion> inetpro: one thing I do notice, is everytime I do somthing on the site, I have to relogin
[20:52] <Cryterion> Might be because of key issue
[20:52]  * inetpro done
[20:52] <inetpro> The key #####/######## was successfully validated.
[20:52] <inetpro> Cryterion: ah
[20:52] <inetpro> Cryterion: login and paste the key quickly after login
[20:53] <Cryterion> did try, will try again
[20:55] <Cryterion> Nope, same prob
[20:56] <inetpro> ai!
[20:58] <Cryterion> Different browser, still no go
[20:59] <stickyboy> OCSP is winning-er than CRL but still failwhale
[21:01] <inetpro> Cryterion: see Creating your OpenPGP keys with gpg at https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey?action=show&redirect=ImportingYourOpenPGPKey
[21:01] <inetpro> those instructions are very clear... no need to have the others
[21:02] <inetpro> Step 12: Launchpad doesn't store your key directly, so you need to export your public key to a key server, such as keyserver.ubuntu.com: 
[21:02] <inetpro> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys 12345678
[21:02] <gremble> GPG seems like a good idea, until it is trying to use it somewhere
[21:02] <gremble> :x
[21:03] <inetpro> gremble: works perfectly well with Thunderbird
[21:05] <Cryterion> inetpro: will look through it now
[21:11] <Cryterion> inetpro: so there's a step missing in the guide, need to wait the 30mins out for server to update
[21:12] <inetpro> don't think I waited that long
[21:12] <Cryterion> didn't work after 10seconds
[21:13] <inetpro> mine worked perfectly after about 10 minutes
[21:14] <inetpro> which was the time it took for me to do it while I was also chatting with you in between
[21:17] <Cryterion> inetpro: fixed, got the email now, thanks
[21:17] <inetpro> great!
[21:17] <inetpro> well done
[21:40] <inetpro> good night everyone
[21:40] <solidity> gnight
[21:44] <gremble> Good night to everyone going to sleep
[21:50] <gremble> Welcome back