| ochosi | elfy: good to know. i'll try to prep our themes when i get my new laptop (gah, still 20 days :( ) | 07:11 |
|---|---|---|
| elfy | :( | 07:12 |
| ochosi | yeah, that's what you get when you order the ubuntu laptop from dell | 07:12 |
| elfy | ... | 07:13 |
| bluesabre | trusty/utopic/vivid folks: Synced the latest packages to the xfce-4.12 ppa this morning. Some are still building. | 10:36 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: if you get a chance, can you work with the greeter 2.0.1 packaging? | 10:42 |
| bluesabre | need to migrate the ubuntu conf to the new dirs | 10:43 |
| ochosi | hey bluesabre | 10:49 |
| ochosi | great! | 10:50 |
| ochosi | btw, i pushed another commit and am about to release a new dev version of xfpm | 10:50 |
| ochosi | so you can soon test that hidden panel setting again ;) | 10:50 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: cool :) | 10:51 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: will you be here for the meeting today? | 11:08 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: can't make it, during travel/work hours | 11:08 |
| bluesabre | we can have a quick discussion now though, if you'd like | 11:09 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: sure, and sry, was away for lunch | 11:30 |
| ochosi | are you still around or already gone..? | 11:34 |
| ochosi | elfy: any specific icons in LO that "haven't been ochosi'd" - as you put it - that you would say are high priority for you? | 11:37 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: hey | 11:38 |
| ochosi | oh good :) | 11:38 |
| ochosi | so to pick up from before: i will try to release xfpm 1.5.1 this weekend, so maybe we can provide that in the PPA for wily and vivid | 11:39 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: sure thing | 11:40 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: got a few orange icons on the right... :) http://i.imgur.com/XWXSEgb.png | 11:40 |
| bluesabre | Version: 4.4.2.2 | 11:40 |
| ochosi | and wrt LO icons, thanks for fixing the packaging! | 11:40 |
| bluesabre | np | 11:41 |
| ochosi | yeah, the insertpagebreak and the insertfield icons havent been fixed yet | 11:41 |
| ochosi | but: look at the beautiful shapes you can insert! | 11:41 |
| bluesabre | :D | 11:41 |
| ochosi | for "insert field" i'm still a bit unsure how to represent that | 11:41 |
| bluesabre | also the paint tub and brush on the right | 11:42 |
| ochosi | that icon there doesn't make much sense to me tbh | 11:42 |
| ochosi | yeah, although that's sorta okayish | 11:42 |
| ochosi | not going to eliminate all orange icons just for the sake of it ;) | 11:42 |
| ochosi | note: it's not the same orange like the other two icons, so not ubuntu-orange | 11:42 |
| bluesabre | "Show Draw Functions", indeed, thats kind of a dumb icon in general | 11:43 |
| ochosi | yeah | 11:43 |
| ochosi | in LO-calc there is a lot more to do | 11:43 |
| ochosi | but i focused on -writer for now | 11:44 |
| ochosi | and even there, i wanna fix the list and indent icons | 11:44 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 11:44 |
| bluesabre | I won't mention the other apps (non-writer/calc) for a little while | 11:44 |
| ochosi | yeah, they're not as important for now | 11:45 |
| ochosi | you sent me that screenshot of catfish, have you pushed that already? | 11:47 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: nope, not yet | 11:48 |
| bluesabre | :D | 11:48 |
| ochosi | also, maybe we should discuss our general stance wrt CSD | 11:48 |
| bluesabre | its not working atm | 11:48 |
| bluesabre | and yeah | 11:48 |
| ochosi | we have some apps already that have CSD (calculator) | 11:48 |
| ochosi | but with many others we pushed for patches that prevent CSD | 11:48 |
| ochosi | i'm wondering whether we should revert that | 11:49 |
| ochosi | e.g. simplescan | 11:49 |
| bluesabre | yeah.. in a lot of those cases its ubuntu pushing those patches | 11:49 |
| ochosi | yeah, but we argued that we want to be included :) | 11:49 |
| ochosi | it checks the running DE | 11:49 |
| bluesabre | true | 11:49 |
| ochosi | in ubuntu gnome those apps use CSD afaik | 11:49 |
| bluesabre | the way they are patched makes them look dump fairly frequently | 11:49 |
| bluesabre | *dumb | 11:49 |
| ochosi | dump? | 11:49 |
| ochosi | :) | 11:49 |
| ochosi | yeah, so maybe we should discuss that as a team or something | 11:50 |
| ochosi | not sure | 11:50 |
| bluesabre | but, I also know that several folks here don't like CSDs, so it should be a broader conversation in xubuntu (and probably xfce) | 11:50 |
| ochosi | with xfce there are no plans to go for going for csd | 11:50 |
| ochosi | although i could imagine we could implement a setting for xfce apps | 11:51 |
| ochosi | i mean a general one | 11:51 |
| ochosi | e.g. in xfce4-session | 11:51 |
| bluesabre | I don't think a setting is necessary there | 11:51 |
| ochosi | with "broader discussion in xubuntu" you mean broader than theme? | 11:51 |
| ochosi | well i could imagine that we implement optional CSD in xfce apps | 11:52 |
| bluesabre | xfwm4 supports it gracefully, gtk 3.16 handles without compositing | 11:52 |
| bluesabre | I don't think it should be an optional thing | 11:52 |
| ochosi | right, why? | 11:52 |
| ochosi | (apart from the obvious ones: code complexity, maintainability) | 11:52 |
| bluesabre | toolbar+menubar != headerbar... no need to completely change the interface for a different titlebar | 11:52 |
| ochosi | yeah but headerbar+menubar looks really silly | 11:53 |
| bluesabre | yeah, and in that case it should not use a headerbar | 11:53 |
| bluesabre | if an app is going to support it, then it should do it fully and not have a switch to toggle | 11:54 |
| bluesabre | imo | 11:54 |
| bluesabre | :) | 11:54 |
| ochosi | k :) | 11:55 |
| bluesabre | in the same line of thought, I don't think it should be patched away in ubuntu ;) | 11:55 |
| ochosi | yeah, many ubuntu devs see it that way | 11:55 |
| ochosi | they might revert those patches actually | 11:55 |
| ochosi | it could happen any release, just depends on compiz supporting CSD better | 11:55 |
| ochosi | which is why i'm thinking it might be a good idea to be proactive about that | 11:56 |
| ochosi | although i have no idea what to do with e.g. evince, i mean how that would look without ubuntu patching the gnome app-menus to be menus in a menubar | 11:56 |
| ochosi | we might have to come up with a solution for that problem | 11:57 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: gtk handles that, drops the app menus into a menubutton on the headerbar | 11:57 |
| ochosi | oh ok | 11:57 |
| ochosi | i thought there was more to it than that | 11:57 |
| bluesabre | I think thats part of GtkApplication | 11:57 |
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| ochosi | still, i wonder how all the menuitems in evince fit into a single menubutton.. | 11:58 |
| === MerryChristmas is now known as benonsoftware | ||
| bluesabre | er, GtkApplicationWindow | 11:59 |
| bluesabre | https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkApplicationWindow.html#GtkApplicationWindow--show-menubar | 11:59 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 11:59 |
| bluesabre | anyway, gotta run for now | 11:59 |
| bluesabre | maybe you have something to talk about in the meeting now ;) | 11:59 |
| ochosi | hah | 12:01 |
| ochosi | alright | 12:01 |
| ochosi | ttyl and hf! | 12:01 |
| elfy | ochosi: I tend not to look tbh (sorry) but mostly I calc than writer - and there appears to be a *lot* | 12:02 |
| elfy | and then I see the mention of calc in backlog ... | 12:02 |
| ochosi | elfy: yeah, i'll work on calc at some point | 12:13 |
| ochosi | thing is, i won't just replace icons for the sake of it, if they're okay then i'll leave them | 12:13 |
| ochosi | (also because of limited time/motivation) | 12:14 |
| knome | elfy, can you use ubuntu-bug if you use a PPA? | 12:14 |
| knome | oh yeah... | 12:15 |
| * knome facepalms | 12:15 | |
| knome | "It also helps if bugs you find with xfce packages can be reported on ..." | 12:17 |
| knome | not english :D | 12:17 |
| elfy | it *is* English | 12:21 |
| knome | well... | 12:21 |
| elfy | just not grammatically correct :) | 12:21 |
| knome | engrish | 12:22 |
| elfy | lol | 12:22 |
| elfy | !team | meeting | 12:29 |
| ubottu | meeting: bluesabre, elfy, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 | 12:29 |
| elfy | #startmeeting | 12:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Fri Jun 5 12:30:11 2015 UTC. The chair is elfy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 12:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 12:30 |
| elfy | I'll hang about for a minute or two to see if anyone turns up ... | 12:30 |
| knome | well i'm here.. | 12:30 |
| dkessel | o/ | 12:31 |
| elfy | so am I knome :) | 12:32 |
| knome | hei dkessel | 12:32 |
| dkessel | hej knome | 12:32 |
| elfy | hi dkessel | 12:32 |
| dkessel | hey elfy | 12:32 |
| elfy | #topic Open action items | 12:32 |
| knome | none i guess | 12:33 |
| elfy | this is easy as pie - only one to look at and that's -dev and -qa and I've got to assume that bluesabre and ochosi will ask | 12:33 |
| knome | oh there is one.. | 12:33 |
| knome | yep | 12:33 |
| elfy | and Unit193 and Noskcaj and micahg | 12:34 |
| elfy | #done xubuntu-dev to liase with -qa when specific package testing required | 12:34 |
| elfy | meh | 12:34 |
| knome | heh | 12:34 |
| elfy | #topic Team Updates | 12:34 |
| elfy | anything from you knome ? | 12:35 |
| knome | #info knome has been working on website content | 12:35 |
| knome | that's all | 12:35 |
| elfy | #info milestone image testing dealt with | 12:35 |
| elfy | that's all | 12:36 |
| elfy | move along I guess | 12:36 |
| elfy | #topic Announcements | 12:36 |
| elfy | nothing that I'm aware of | 12:37 |
| elfy | #topic Discussion | 12:38 |
| elfy | #subtopic Rebooting the FAQ articles | 12:38 |
| elfy | knome: that's your item | 12:38 |
| elfy | anything happened with that recently? | 12:38 |
| elfy | guessing not then ... | 12:40 |
| knome | nope, but the work continues | 12:40 |
| elfy | :) | 12:40 |
| knome | sorry, i'm in a flu and have my other nostril dripping blood more or less consistently... | 12:40 |
| elfy | so people are doing that? | 12:40 |
| elfy | :| | 12:40 |
| knome | we'll do at least something | 12:40 |
| knome | at least bluesabre said he could write something | 12:41 |
| knome | if not else, i guess i'll push the "back to the basics" series forward | 12:41 |
| elfy | ok - so any need for us to revisit this each meeting still ? | 12:41 |
| knome | likely not | 12:41 |
| elfy | or take it to mailing lists when needed or something | 12:41 |
| knome | i'll just send a follow-up to the ML at some point | 12:41 |
| knome | yep | 12:41 |
| elfy | ack | 12:41 |
| knome | #action knome to follow-up on the FAQ reboot on ML | 12:42 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to follow-up on the FAQ reboot on ML | 12:42 |
| elfy | #subtopic Discuss blueprints and plans for 15.10 | 12:42 |
| knome | heh | 12:42 |
| elfy | which is ochosi's bag afaik - pretty sure the blueprints are being/been sorted | 12:43 |
| knome | looks like it | 12:43 |
| elfy | yep | 12:43 |
| dkessel | definately | 12:44 |
| elfy | #action ochosi to follow up with team leads re blueprints as needed | 12:44 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ochosi to follow up with team leads re blueprints as needed | 12:44 |
| elfy | #subtopic Core as image | 12:44 |
| elfy | I put this on here expecting to set a time that bluesabre was here -which was fail :) | 12:44 |
| elfy | personally my view is that it'd be nice to do that - maybe aim for the next cycle proper - which would be even nicer | 12:45 |
| elfy | as far as QA goes - if we do that, then QA would do what is necessary for that | 12:46 |
| elfy | not got anything else to say on that though | 12:46 |
| elfy | anyone else got anything to say on that? | 12:47 |
| knome | yep | 12:48 |
| knome | what you say sounds good | 12:48 |
| elfy | anymore - if not I'll move along | 12:50 |
| ochosi | o/ | 12:51 |
| ochosi | sorry for being late | 12:51 |
| elfy | hi ochosi | 12:51 |
| elfy | ochosi: anything you want to bring up? | 12:52 |
| ochosi | had an important call | 12:52 |
| ochosi | i'll quickly catch up backlog wise, 1min | 12:52 |
| elfy | okey doke | 12:53 |
| ochosi | i'm surprised there were no team updates so far | 12:53 |
| elfy | not much to be said QA wise atm | 12:54 |
| ochosi | knome: what about the website content restructuring? (i mean sure, it's on the ML, but still) | 12:54 |
| ochosi | elfy: what about not using the tracker this cycle? | 12:54 |
| ochosi | or has that previously been discussed/announced in a meeting? | 12:54 |
| elfy | yea - that came up previously | 12:55 |
| elfy | the draft mail is following up | 12:55 |
| ochosi | mkay | 12:55 |
| knome | ochosi, what about that? | 12:55 |
| ochosi | knome: well i dunno, what are team updates about if not e.g. that? | 12:56 |
| elfy | ochosi: on the 12th May | 12:56 |
| knome | ochosi, i did the update | 12:56 |
| knome | "working with website content" | 12:56 |
| * ochosi facepalms | 12:56 | |
| ochosi | sorry, overread that | 12:56 |
| knome | np | 12:56 |
| elfy | :) | 12:56 |
| ochosi | guess i should've taken 1min30sec to read the backlog instead of just 1min | 12:56 |
| knome | lol | 12:57 |
| elfy | ha ha ha | 12:57 |
| ochosi | anyhoo, there is a discussion item i wanted to bring up quickly | 12:57 |
| elfy | #chair ochosi | 12:57 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: elfy ochosi | 12:57 |
| ochosi | we won't finish today, but i would like to hear both your opinions (at least) | 12:57 |
| elfy | then you can topic it | 12:57 |
| elfy | (unless you can without chair ... ) | 12:57 |
| ochosi | #subtopic Discuss Xubuntu's position on CSD (client side decorations) | 12:58 |
| knome | can't | 12:58 |
| elfy | knome: ty | 12:58 |
| ochosi | sooo | 12:58 |
| ochosi | so far, we've tried to get ubuntu's patches to work for xubuntu as well, which means our apps look like before | 12:58 |
| ochosi | btw, are we all clear on what CSD is? | 12:58 |
| elfy | not completely ... | 12:58 |
| ochosi | ok, in vivid/wily, open the calculator | 12:59 |
| knome | maybe you should post reference for reference | 12:59 |
| ochosi | that's CSD | 12:59 |
| ochosi | so not using a traditional window decoration | 12:59 |
| ochosi | but one that looks like a toolbar with window controls | 12:59 |
| elfy | aah - ok - got that | 12:59 |
| ochosi | ok | 13:00 |
| ochosi | so basically the ubuntu desktop devs decided to patch that out in their default apps | 13:00 |
| ochosi | and since xfce didn't support it well at the time (well, that was the main technical reason) we went along and asked this to be patched out for us too | 13:00 |
| ochosi | however, that has changed, xfce supports it quite well now | 13:00 |
| ochosi | and it could be that the ubuntu desktop team decides any cycle to revert those patches and to use the apps with CSD in unity | 13:01 |
| ochosi | so the question is: are we proactive about this and consider reverting the patches for us? | 13:01 |
| elfy | reverting ends up with us looking like what? | 13:02 |
| knome | there's obviously two sides to this | 13:02 |
| ochosi | or do we think CSD is not easy enough to use etc. so we wanna keep those patches as long as possible | 13:02 |
| ochosi | or look for alternatives | 13:02 |
| ochosi | elfy: i'll quickly look for screenshots, one sec | 13:02 |
| ochosi | but it depends on the app a bit | 13:02 |
| knome | using what the app provides (CSD) and no need to maintain patches | 13:02 |
| knome | or | 13:02 |
| knome | patching them out and keeping consistency and configurability to user | 13:02 |
| ochosi | 1) "old" calculator: http://screenshots.ubuntu.com/screenshots/g/gcalctool/5112_large.png | 13:03 |
| knome | i don't think you can affect much how the CSD stuff is laid out | 13:03 |
| knome | i mean, in which order you have the window controls etc | 13:03 |
| knome | or can you? | 13:03 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok - as I assumed, they'd look like they used to | 13:03 |
| knome | at least the minimize icon is different too than in greybird xfwm | 13:03 |
| ochosi | 2) CSD calculator: http://i.imgur.com/oM3v65q.png | 13:03 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, i'd have to work on that, but that can be fixed obviously | 13:04 |
| ochosi | btw, consistency yes, but configurability, not really | 13:04 |
| knome | well window button layout | 13:04 |
| ochosi | the amount of possible menuitems/options in an app doesn#t change with CSD | 13:04 |
| ochosi | no, xfwm4 supposedly syncs that now | 13:05 |
| knome | aha... | 13:05 |
| ochosi | so when you change you xfwm4 window button layout, your CSD layout changes too | 13:05 |
| elfy | aah right | 13:05 |
| ochosi | it's a simple gtk setting, exposed through xfce4-settings-editor (but auto-synced with xfwm4) | 13:05 |
| knome | right... | 13:05 |
| ochosi | so you can also override it | 13:05 |
| elfy | so I move the buttons about - my calc buttons are reversed to the screeny | 13:05 |
| knome | i guess if we can make the windows with CSD more like greybird.. | 13:06 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, the maximize and minimize would be adapted | 13:06 |
| knome | the CSD window borders are fat | 13:06 |
| ochosi | well, they're more than window borders | 13:06 |
| knome | and there's a lot of padding comparing to regular window borders | 13:06 |
| knome | sure | 13:06 |
| ochosi | because they hold lots of other buttons | 13:06 |
| ochosi | yeah, but if you lose menubar+toolbar, you still end up saving pixels | 13:06 |
| ochosi | (if that's a concern) | 13:06 |
| knome | size isn't, consistency is | 13:07 |
| knome | (from my POV) | 13:07 |
| ochosi | you mean "a concern"? | 13:07 |
| knome | yes | 13:07 |
| ochosi | yeah i agree | 13:07 |
| ochosi | but in the end that might mean that we have to look for alternative applications | 13:07 |
| ochosi | because this affects many of our default apps | 13:07 |
| ochosi | evince, calculator, simplescan, etcetc. | 13:08 |
| knome | yes, and surely, there's no guarantee they won't start using SCD too | 13:08 |
| ochosi | exactly | 13:08 |
| knome | i don't think it's sensible to replace those with new apps that are as good | 13:08 |
| ochosi | although Mate seems to dislike CSD, so we could try relying more on their apps | 13:08 |
| knome | sensible to think that we can* | 13:08 |
| ochosi | yeah, probably not | 13:08 |
| ochosi | i mean for instance with evince i'm *totally* happy | 13:08 |
| ochosi | and i've never heard a single complaint about it (so far) | 13:09 |
| ochosi | so i'd hate to replace that with something worse | 13:09 |
| knome | yep | 13:09 |
| knome | i don't like the menus in the window borders personally | 13:09 |
| knome | and another concern is how the menus look opened | 13:09 |
| ochosi | so anyway, i know this is a big topic, but we have to start thinking about this and discussing it | 13:09 |
| knome | that's not consistent either | 13:09 |
| ochosi | aha? which ones? | 13:09 |
| knome | well for example in calc | 13:10 |
| knome | open the "file" menu | 13:10 |
| knome | it has awful padding | 13:10 |
| ochosi | that can be tweaked | 13:10 |
| knome | it doesn't look bad, but it looks like it doesn't belong | 13:10 |
| ochosi | i just haven't spent much time on it | 13:10 |
| knome | yeah and sure, if we decided not to use CSD, then it would be more or less in vain | 13:11 |
| dkessel | how does one open such a CSD menu with the keyboard? | 13:13 |
| ochosi | knome: well we can keep it up as long as possible... | 13:14 |
| elfy | ochosi: so the options we have basically equate to keep it and hope for the best or proactively move away now | 13:14 |
| ochosi | elfy: yeah, that's my view on the subject at least (and i think to some extent bluesabre's) | 13:15 |
| elfy | given that I'm not sure that anyone is going to be up for fiddling about much in the *next* cycle | 13:15 |
| ochosi | dkessel: not sure, a11y might be another con of CSD | 13:15 |
| ochosi | elfy: yes, exactly why i felt i'd rather bring it up now | 13:15 |
| elfy | so - if we do end up having to do something, then wily would be the time | 13:16 |
| elfy | would be my position on it | 13:16 |
| ochosi | ok, but on CSD itself? | 13:16 |
| ochosi | (and yeah, i hope we can agree on what you said there) | 13:16 |
| elfy | ochosi: so on CSD - you want my opinion on whether to keep that or go *old-school* ? | 13:17 |
| ochosi | yup | 13:18 |
| ochosi | it could be that we have to vote on this in the end | 13:18 |
| ochosi | (just as an additional note) | 13:18 |
| ochosi | but i prefer to have a discussion beforehand | 13:18 |
| elfy | then I prefer not CSD - they always looks odd to me when there are other apps open that aren't CSD | 13:18 |
| ochosi | in a voting process there's often not enough time to thoroughly explain one's position | 13:18 |
| elfy | yea :) | 13:18 |
| ochosi | k | 13:19 |
| ochosi | btw, we can also proactively try to promote CSD and get consistency back that way | 13:19 |
| elfy | mmm | 13:19 |
| ochosi | we can even try to suggest improvements upstream (e.g. if there are a11y concerns) | 13:19 |
| ochosi | and obviously that also concerns xfce | 13:19 |
| elfy | yep | 13:20 |
| knome | some apps will never have CSD though | 13:20 |
| knome | ff,tb,lo | 13:20 |
| elfy | hard for me to have opinions on this type of thing tbh - I just use whatever I use | 13:20 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, possible | 13:21 |
| elfy | things have to be REALLY obvious for me to even notice ... | 13:21 |
| ochosi | elfy: that's ok (and good to know) | 13:21 |
| elfy | :) | 13:21 |
| ochosi | knome: although if more DEs use CSD then the incentive for those apps to support something like CSD might be higher | 13:22 |
| elfy | like the fact that calc looks odd to me - really obviously different | 13:22 |
| knome | well i don't know | 13:22 |
| ochosi | i mean FF already has that sort of menubutton to some extent | 13:22 |
| knome | what would they do with CSD? | 13:22 |
| knome | they still need to show a lot of menus and options | 13:22 |
| ochosi | combine tab bar and window controls | 13:22 |
| knome | that can't look natural in CSD | 13:22 |
| knome | yeah, that's ugly | 13:22 |
| ochosi | well look at chrome | 13:22 |
| knome | another reason i don't use chrome... | 13:23 |
| ochosi | it already does that for a while | 13:23 |
| ochosi | well, in chrome it's configurable | 13:23 |
| ochosi | either way, i could add another workitem to improve our CSD support so that max and min buttons look like greybird (amongst others) | 13:24 |
| knome | yep | 13:24 |
| knome | ++ | 13:24 |
| ochosi | and we can continue the discussion another time | 13:24 |
| ochosi | this was just meant as a kickstart anyway | 13:24 |
| elfy | yep | 13:24 |
| elfy | that makes sense - perhaps start a list thread too with the main points | 13:25 |
| ochosi | yeah, ultimately that'll make sense | 13:25 |
| ochosi | but i'd prefer to discuss it a bit more with other team members before we take it to the list | 13:25 |
| ochosi | there might be other points (apart from visual consistency and the things i know about) that i might be missing | 13:26 |
| elfy | ochosi: yep - that makes sense too | 13:26 |
| ochosi | elfy: ok, from my pov you can move along with the meeting or finish it | 13:28 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok ty | 13:28 |
| ochosi | i have no other items i wanted to discuss | 13:28 |
| knome | any items you don't want to discuss? | 13:28 |
| knome | :P | 13:28 |
| elfy | heh | 13:28 |
| elfy | anymore for anymore? | 13:29 |
| knome | no, FINISH IT | 13:29 |
| elfy | #topic Schedule next meeting | 13:29 |
| elfy | action bluesabre to set next meeting | 13:29 |
| elfy | #endmeeting | 13:29 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Fri Jun 5 13:29:41 2015 UTC. | 13:29 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-06-05-12.30.moin.txt | 13:29 |
| knome | thanks elfy | 13:29 |
| elfy | thanks all | 13:29 |
| ochosi | ty elfy | 13:31 |
| elfy | I hate US date syntax ... | 13:35 |
| knome | :P | 13:35 |
| elfy | knome: can you delete https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2015-05-06 | 13:35 |
| knome | done | 13:35 |
| elfy | meeting page is all done | 13:35 |
| elfy | knome: thanks :D | 13:36 |
| elfy | bluesabre: something awry methinks ... http://i.imgur.com/TlNYZQl.png | 16:18 |
| elfy | running from a terminal just get 4 deprecated warnings | 16:21 |
| elfy | thought I would check ... after remembering I accidentally -proposed,,but live session is the same | 16:30 |
| elfy | bug 1462445 | 16:43 |
| ubottu | bug 1462445 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole starts with blank screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462445 | 16:43 |
| elfy | added bugzilla and to blueprint | 16:43 |
| PaulW2U | elfy: seeing that here too, just confirmed your bug in LP | 17:11 |
| PaulW2U | Also, I can't seem to close parole | 17:15 |
| elfy | thanks PaulW2U | 17:27 |
| bluesabre | elfy: PaulW2U wily, I presume? | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | uh oh, I'm next at bat | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | elfy, not a fan of YYYYMMDD? | 22:49 |
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