[05:03] <tiggerpaws> test
[05:03] <daftykins> test failed
[05:21] <tiggerpaws> burrrp
[05:33] <tiggerpaws> HA HA!
[09:11] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:42] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:43] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[10:44] <brobostigon> beer and music fest at my local today, definatly worth a visit methinks.
[10:45] <penguin42> well, there's beer and music fest at my local park over the road - about 20k people and I can hear about the low 1khz of it
[10:56] <bigcalm> intrbiz: are you around for some switch support? :)
[11:36]  * popey lights the bbq
[11:37] <bigcalm> Relight my fire
[11:37] <MartijnVdS> If you're waiting for food from the bbq, are you in a bbqq?
[11:39] <bigcalm> kthxbi
[12:05] <bigcalm> Finally got into the switch via console, then ssh and now web
[12:05] <bigcalm> That was painful
[12:05] <MartijnVdS> what kind of switch?
[12:05] <bigcalm> 3com 4500
[12:08] <bigcalm> intrbiz has said that it's possible to put the 5500 firmware on to it. Now found anything online saying the same though
[12:08] <MartijnVdS> We're getting a CRS1009-1S-1S+ for the office :)
[12:09] <MartijnVdS> And as we're a small company I've been tasked with configuring the thing :)
[12:09] <MartijnVdS> ccr1009*
[12:09] <MartijnVdS> http://routerboard.com/CCR1009-8G-1S-1Splus
[12:10] <bigcalm> Very nice
[12:14] <penguin42> oh neat, not actually come across anything with the Tilera in
[12:50]  * bigcalm wanders off for tea and cake
[16:27]  * popey is full of bbq
[16:36]  * penguin42 offers popey a waffer thin mint
[17:03] <bujji> why linked file default 777 permissions assiged..if i try to change permissions why is  no changing??
[17:03] <bujji> popey:hello
[17:06] <daftykins> you should not be using 777
[17:06] <daftykins> what file system is it on?
[17:12] <daftykins> must be the way i speak :>
[17:15] <popey> :)
[17:25]  * bigcalm is full of tesco healthy living sausages
[17:25] <Laney> ooer
[17:25] <bigcalm> They are quite dull, but filling
[17:26] <penguin42> what makes them healthy living?
[17:26] <bigcalm> Less fat I think
[17:27]  * daftykins looks around for diddledan
[17:27] <bigcalm> Fewer tasty molecules
[17:27] <daftykins> shauno: did you kill 'im?
[17:27] <bigcalm> Now I have a sausage headache :(
[17:27] <daftykins> hehe
[17:27] <popey> a what
[17:27] <penguin42> bigcalm: Would icecream induced brain freeze counteract that?
[17:28] <bigcalm> penguin42: I would be happy to find out, but lack ice cream
[17:28] <bigcalm> Do I really want to go to Waitrose right now?
[17:29] <penguin42> they probably sell ice cream
[17:33] <popey> starting to regret running autopilot tests on my home server
[17:33] <popey> kinda heard the nokia tune enough now
[17:33] <popey> over and over
[17:35] <penguin42> unplug the speaker?
[17:35] <popey> on a phone.
[17:35] <popey> hmm, can probably silence it
[17:39] <penguin42> why do autopilot tests ring your phone?
[17:39] <daftykins> ooh you reminded me i bought discounted white Wall's Magnums!
[17:39] <daftykins> \o/
[17:39] <penguin42> yeh I can see why those would be discounted, the best bit about a magnum is the chocolate outside
[17:40] <daftykins> ah i love it all
[17:40] <daftykins> bujji: so, file system? why 777?
[17:40] <bujji> daftykins:yes:))
[17:41] <bujji> for sym link
[17:41] <daftykins> i don't think being a symlink has anything to do with ever requiring 777
[17:41] <penguin42> is this the permissions on the symlink itself rather than the thing it points to?
[17:42] <bujji> bydefault umask will asign permissions right.
[17:42] <bujji> permissions on the sym link itself
[17:43] <penguin42> yeh, I seem to remember perms on a symlink are a bit special but can't remember the detail about it
[17:43] <daftykins> you said permissions weren't changing, so what was the target and which file system was it on?
[17:44] <bujji> yes its not changing ...
[17:45] <bujji> by using chmod..
[17:51] <bujji> daftykins:i am on ext4 file system.))
[17:54] <daftykins> show an ls -al of the file path, what you're trying to run
[17:55] <daftykins> in a pastebin
[17:56] <bujji> okey
[18:12] <popey> lulz
[18:23] <bujji> daftykins:hello again.
[18:27] <daftykins> o/
[18:31] <bujji> daftykins:yes
[18:34] <bujji> daftykins:i want to know how 777 perm's assign for sym link...why its not changing.
[18:37] <Flashtek> symlinks are just a pointer
[18:37] <Flashtek> the actual permissions are enforced by the 'remote' permissions
[18:39] <penguin42> Flashtek: I seem to remember there were some setups that could do perms on the link as well, but I can't remember the details
[18:40] <Flashtek> sticky etc?
[18:40] <bujji> penguin42:hm..yes
[18:41] <daftykins> well the information i requested would still be useful
[18:41] <daftykins> but nevermind, taking too long :)
[18:41] <bujji> Flashtek: enforced by the 'remote' permissions ??
[18:42] <daftykins> the target file
[18:50] <bujji> o/
[18:50] <daftykins> wow your connection is bad
[18:50] <bujji> yes))
[18:52] <bujji> daftykins:do we have any software for linux like voice based command passing??
[18:53] <daftykins> please direct your questions to the channel, not individual users
[18:54] <daftykins> also bear in mind #ubuntu is the main support channel, you'll get more answers there
[18:54] <bujji> okey  sure
[19:00] <bujji> what is the first "0" represents in umask "0022"
[19:09] <penguin42> bujji: There are a few specials that you dont see much of - suid, sgid and the stucky bit
[19:09] <penguin42> sticky
[20:26] <ball> Is there a font for Ubuntu that can render IBM code page 437? I've been sent something with line drawings in it. :-/
[20:32] <penguin42> oh probably
[20:32] <penguin42> ball: I'm not sure, but maybe fonts-3270 would have the right set, but there's probably something simpler
[22:09] <ball> penguin42: Thanks, I'll have a look.