[01:22] <Mitchell92> Is 2GB of RAM enough to run Kubuntu?
[02:09] <hudsonkem> anybody there?
[02:12] <[Relic]> anyone know how to rebuild edid information so I can use the proper settings on this monitor?
[03:25] <wachin> Hi to all. I am ussing dolphin on UbuntuSTudio 15.04, do you know how to disable the sound when I delete a file?
[03:25] <wachin> In UbuntuStudio 12.04 and 14.04 I used systemsettings to make this but now with 15.04 not working this feature
[04:02] <JohnnySparkles> Hi everyone
[04:03] <JohnnySparkles> I'm having a really funny problem with Kubuntu 15 and I'm not really sure how to describe it to google for a solution
[04:03] <JohnnySparkles> Every now and then I am unable to move windows past a certain point on the horizontal axis
[04:04] <JohnnySparkles> can anyone recall any reports of something similar?
[05:07] <other_guy> Does anyone know how to connect to AFP shares in Kubuntu?  Preferably through Dolphin?
[05:08] <other_guy> They show up automatically in GNOME due to gvfs support, but I can't figure out how to get KDE 5.3 to find them and connect to them.
[06:16] <valorie> [Relic]: history of upgrades is here: /var/log/apt/history.log
[06:17] <valorie> that's saved my bacon a time or two
[06:20] <[Relic]> unfortunately my problem it trying to tweak something due to edid reading failure on my main monitor
[06:22] <[Relic]> I technically can get the monitor back to 1920x1080 with xorg.conf, but it draws well off the screen so the DPI must be off
[06:30] <valorie> hmmm, is this a driver problem?
[06:30] <valorie> !edid
[06:30] <valorie> I didn't think so, ubottu
[09:22] <zxq9> ooc, what is the typical lag between a release of Qt coming out and the libs existing somewhere within Kubuntu?
[09:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:24] <ejay> hi all, how can I check what version of kde applications I've got?
[10:24] <ejay> I've got installed*
[10:25] <lordievader> ejay: Under KDE applications -> help -> about kde.
[10:27] <ejay> lordievader: it's shows frameworks version. Kdeinit5 is keep crashing after last update and want to file an bug report but I'm not sure what version of kde applications is currently installed.
[10:28] <lordievader> Err, I'm not sure how to check that.
[10:29] <amichair> in 15.04, how does one reorder (drag+drop) konsole tabs like it was possible to do in 14.10?
[10:30] <ejay> lordievader: K, will figure it out.
[10:32] <amichair> also, why does the tasbar icon for konsole look different (much worse) than the actual konsole icon that's shown on the window?
[10:34] <tsimpson> ejay: it'll be the same version as frameworks
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Good Day folks
[14:04] <arkascha> Anyone knows a usable version of the SteamPunk theme for the kdm greeter?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> arkascha, on which kubuntu version?
[14:09] <other_guy> Howdy, I asked about this last night, but I had to log off before I saw any responses if there were any....
[14:10] <other_guy> I'm trying to figure out how to connect to AFP network shares in Kubuntu 15.04 w/ the KDE 5.3 backports PPA enabled.
[14:10] <other_guy> Ideally through Dolphin or something similarly simple.
[14:11] <other_guy> It works automatically in GNOME, which I think has to do with AFP support being in gvfs.
[14:14] <BluesKaj> arkascha, maybe you can find some here, http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/SteampunK+Plasma+Theme?content=157926
[14:14] <arkascha> Sorry, BluesKaj, didn't see your request: 14.04, but I doubt that really matters.
[14:15] <arkascha> The link does not point to a greeter theme, but a plasma theme.
[14:16] <arkascha> BluesKaj: looks like I have to forge my own version :-)
[14:16] <BluesKaj> arkascha, itr does because the newer versions have switched to sddm from lightdm and kdm
[14:17] <BluesKaj> did you check my post above?
[14:17] <arkascha> BluesKaj: I am aware of that. That is why I asked for a kdm freeter theme. Because I can use that with kdm and lightdm.
[14:18] <arkascha> BluesKaj: what "post"? You mean the link? Yes, I did.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:18] <arkascha> As said: a plasma theme.
[14:19] <BluesKaj> ok I forgot 14.04 can use plasma 5 I think , but few users bother to try afaik'
[14:21] <arkascha> BluesKaj: Sure that is possible. but not what I am looking for. I use
[14:22] <BluesKaj> well most steampunk themes are plasma , either 4 or 5 it seems'
[14:23] <lolmaus_> How do I configure a keyboard shortcut to run a custom console command?
[14:24] <lolmaus_> I'm creating an icon but it says "Service bla.desktop is malformatted".
[14:25] <arkascha> lolmaus_: did you take a look insisde the created .desktop file?
[14:26] <arkascha> lolmaus_: compare it to other, existing .desktop files. Anything that stands out?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> lolmaus_,  you can use an alias in ~/.bashrc for cli commands
[14:29] <lolmaus_> arkascha: if i remove all arguments, e. g. "pactl" instead of "pactl set-sink-volume 0 +10%", then it works but does nothing.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> lolmaus_, didn't see your 2nd post..nm
[14:31] <lolmaus_> Also, the command runs terribly slowly! It takes it like 10 seconds to disappear from the taskbar.
[14:35] <amichair> in 15.04, how does one reorder konsole tabs like it was possible to do in 14.10?
[14:36] <amichair> Via mouse dragging, that is. Is there a configuration option for it?
[14:36] <other_guy> crickets on the AFP front :-)  alright... well... hopefully this one is a quicky...
[14:37] <other_guy> amichair, weird I didn't notice that wasn't working.
[14:37] <other_guy> One sec...
[14:37] <other_guy> I think I've seen something in the settings panel about this
[14:38] <amichair> other_guy: me neither, until I needed to do it :-)
[14:38] <amichair> I just saw that ctrl-shift-arrow still works, at least
[14:39] <other_guy> hmm... nope.  I was thinking of "Start Window Tab Drag" in the Window Behavior KCM
[14:40] <amichair> other_guy: think I should open a bug?
[14:40] <other_guy> So... I'm trying to figure out why it is that I can't set Alt-V as Paste in Konsole.
[14:40] <other_guy> amichair, probably.  Not sure :-)
[14:40] <amichair> also, why does the tasbar icon for konsole look different (much worse) than the actual konsole icon that's shown on the window title and everywhere else?
[14:41] <other_guy> I can set the shortcut, but it doesn't stick.
[14:41] <amichair> other_guy: which shortcut?
[14:41] <other_guy> As soon as I exit Konsole and re-launch or try to use the shortcut it clears itself and stops working.
[14:42] <other_guy> I'm setting "Paste" in keyboard shortcuts for Konsole to Alt-V, but it won't stay that way.
[14:42] <amichair> other_guy: ctrl-shift-left/right work for me out of the box. Or maybe it's an old configuration I made somewhere and forgot?
[14:42] <other_guy> Lemme get the exact behavior
[14:42] <amichair> ctrl-shift-v is the default paste, works ok I think
[14:44] <other_guy> Yeah it does.  Except that I don't like using it and want it to be Alt-V :-)
[14:44] <amichair> other_guy: just found bug #347094
[14:45] <amichair> no, that's not it
[14:45] <amichair> kde bug #347094
[14:45] <amichair> that's more like it
[14:45] <other_guy> Ah :-)
[14:45] <amichair> suppose I'll add a vote
[14:46] <other_guy> So here's what happens.
[14:46] <amichair> I'm never sure if anyone actually looks at the votes
[14:47] <other_guy> I open Konsole... set Paste to be Alt-V.  It works fine.  I can paste using Alt-V.  I quit Konsole by closing all Konsole windows, then I open it again.
[14:47] <other_guy> Upon that reopening "Paste" has it's primary shortcut just totally cleared out, even the default isn't there anymore.
[14:49] <amichair> other_guy: sounds like a bug :-)
[14:50] <other_guy> Part of me thinks it has something to do with the Alt-based menu/UI accelerator shortucts (like where it underlines the letter you can use)
[14:50] <amichair> other_guy: I just saw a setting for that
[14:50] <other_guy> And since it would normally underline V for that, it's stealing it away from me.
[14:51] <other_guy> Yeah I've disabled those dumb things in the settings
[14:51] <amichair> you can try disabling and see if that still happens
[14:51] <other_guy> and... it still happens :-)
[14:56] <amichair> any idea what happened to holidays etc. showing up in clock calendar?
[14:56] <amichair> i.e. they don't anymore
[15:00] <other_guy> I do not.  I was somewhat stunned to find out there's no option for setting a 24 hour clock.
[15:01] <other_guy> I have to use UK locale settings for time to get that
[15:01] <other_guy> Which annoyingly puts my start of the week on Monday in the calendar.
[15:02] <other_guy> Some non-trivial part of me wants to go back to Xfce because it feels like the GNOME and the KDE developers are focused a lot on adding (or removing in the case of GNOME) features that nobody is really asking for, while letting spit and polish sorta fall by the wayside :-/
[15:03] <other_guy> Though 5.3 is markedly better than 5.2, so I'm hopeful
[15:10] <BluesKaj> other_guy, plasma 5 is till in development, the spit and polish comes later
[15:13] <BluesKaj> err still
[15:13] <amichair> other_guy: I also found way too much functionality dropped in plasma 5 that was available in plasma 4...
[15:14] <other_guy> Sure, I get that BluesKaj.  Though 24-hour clock setting seems like a pretty basic thing to be missing, and the workaround is a bit silly.
[15:14] <other_guy> But I can say I've overall enjoyed the experience, or like the direction things are going
[15:14] <amichair> opened lots of issues on bugs.kde.org to ask for them to be returned. It looks like there is some willingness from the devs to do it.
[15:14] <other_guy> I like that I can have fully configurable keyboard shortcuts that work across seeminly all KF5 apps
[15:15] <other_guy> It sucks that KF5 apps are the only place it seems to work.
[15:15] <amichair> I think it's just a matter of releasing plasma 5 very prematurely.
[15:15] <other_guy> But at least there's hope
[15:15] <other_guy> Save for that Alt-V thing I talked about above
[15:16] <amichair> surprising, considering what heppened with KDE4... but I guess history repeats itself
[15:16] <BluesKaj> well ,we all have our gripes...mine is the VD's can no longer support separate wallpapers...might be a small issue to the ddev, but i miss it.
[15:17] <amichair> other_guy: Darn, now I'm also missing my 24-hour clock. Ignorance was bliss...
[15:17] <amichair> I did notice that there's no iso-8601 date formatting right when I upgraded, though
[15:24] <other_guy> Let's see... there was the AFP share problem.... the can't set Alt-V shortcut problem, and I feel like I had another one.
[15:25] <other_guy> Oh... some way to set ISO_Shift_Level3 to Super_R while still being able to use Super_R
[15:26] <other_guy> So like it would only be the Level3 selector when it matters... like when chorded with a letter that will produce an accent.
[15:26] <other_guy> But the rest of the time be just plain old Super_R
[15:26] <amichair> other_guy: you should open bugs in bugs.kde.org for all those things... hopefully they will fix them and by 15.10 we'll have a desktop almost as functional as 14.10
[15:27] <other_guy> Yeah, I'll put that stuff in.
[15:35] <BluesKaj> you guys have the same nick colour, another gripe with the new plasma 5 Konversation app
[15:39] <other_guy> Try using Polari for a minute and you'll never complain about Konversation again :-)
[15:40] <other_guy> the room user list is a pop-over menu
[15:40] <other_guy> It's bizarre
[15:45] <BluesKaj> otjura, why what's so wonderful or terrible about Polari?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> other_guy,^
[15:45] <other_guy> It's a pretty interface with a questionable UX at best.
[15:46] <other_guy> And will become the default IRC client for GNOME at somepoint I suspect
[15:46] <other_guy> Oh... one other thing... has anyone managed to get their SDDM background to change?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> when an app like konverstion becomes so well developed, one tends to criticize the little things more and more:-)
[15:47] <other_guy> Yeah :-) honeslty, Konversation might be the best IRC client I've used on any platform
[15:48] <BluesKaj> other_guy, yes I have mine changed to a photo from the pictures file
[15:48] <other_guy> I keep editing the SDDM login background in the KCM that manages it.  When I leave and go back to the KCM I can see the thumbnail for my background.  I can go look at the SDDM user file and see that it's there...
[15:49] <other_guy> but it seems to never get actually used by anything.  Because at login the background is the default.
[15:50] <other_guy> hmmm
[15:51] <other_guy> BluesKaj are you using the 5.3 backports PPA?
[15:51] <other_guy> Or are you on the default 5.2?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> other_guy, I just changed it in system settings>startup&shutdown>sddm login ...and yes I'm on plasma5.3.1
[15:53] <BluesKaj> but I also had it on 5,2 earlier
[15:53] <other_guy> hmm
[15:56] <BluesKaj> ok , i'm gonna switch vpn servers...bbiab
[16:49] <marcone> hello
[16:52] <marewere> hello
[16:52] <marcone> hi
[16:52] <marewere> who is you
[16:53] <marcone> its my first time on irc im markus
[16:53] <marewere> where are you frome
[16:53] <marcone> from germany
[16:53] <marewere> oh
[16:53] <marewere> i am italian
[16:54] <marcone> must be hot there now
[16:54] <marewere> what?
[16:54] <marcone> the temperature
[16:54] <marewere> ah ok yes yes
[16:55] <marcone> are you a linux pro?
[16:55] <marewere> hello my first name is gianluca
[16:55] <marewere> yes i have
[16:55] <marewere> linux pro
[16:58] <marcone> i have a little linux problem, could someone lend me a ear?
[17:18] <newbie> hi
[17:18] <newbie> i need some help guys
[17:18] <marcone> hi
[17:19] <Guest30482> i just installed Kubuntu but it keeps freezing
[17:20] <marcone> when does it freeze?
[17:20] <Guest30482> if i try to update it freezes
[17:20] <Guest30482> now it isn't for some reason i dont know
[17:20] <marcone> can uupdate with apt-get
[17:20] <marcone> ?
[17:20] <Guest30482> but it just randomly freezes and when i try to update it freezes for sure
[17:20] <BluesKaj> Guest30482, which Kubuntu ,and have you updated and upgraded since installing?
[17:21] <Guest30482> i am a total noob to linux but im eager to learn
[17:21] <Guest30482> what is apt-get ?
[17:21] <BluesKaj> uhm use the terminal , sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:22] <BluesKaj> oops sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:22] <Guest30482> kubuntu 15 no but on the installition i chose the third party apps and updating on the installation
[17:23] <BluesKaj> make sure your internrt connection is working
[17:23] <Guest30482> i wouln't be chatting right now if i had'nt internet right ?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> some ppl use a different pc to get help
[17:24] <Guest30482> well im poor
[17:25] <Guest30482> omg it updates :D
[17:30] <marcone> jay
[17:32] <Guest30482> ok i understand the update command but what does the upgrade one do ? its still running
[17:33] <marcone_de> update fetches new software lists and upgrade does the update
[17:34] <BluesKaj> update brings up the packages that are up to date, the upgrade installs them
[17:35] <marcone_de> question: can i be heard ?
[17:36] <marcone_de> no offence but its my first time on irc
[17:47] <marcone_de> hallo?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> marcone_de, yes , do you have a kubuntu support question?
[17:56] <marcone_de> yes. its a bit complicated. i disabled my hdmi output to my tv on boot by a "video=HDMI-A-1:d" in the kernel command line. but i sometimes want to use it. is there a way of enabling it while the system is running?
[17:58] <BluesKaj> marcone_de, video=HDMI-A-1:e
[17:59] <marcone_de> but thats only possible at boot time, right? i want to do it when the system is already running.
[18:01] <BluesKaj> dunno , I leave mine enabled permanently
[18:03] <marcone_de> i dont need it often and my login screen is at low resolution even if the tv is off so i disabled it
[18:38] <[Relic]> is there anyway to repair video settings to the point where I can get a proper proper desktop back?  currently it logs and has a black screen that I can use to get alt-f2 to pop up but not run anything or use ctl-alt-f1 to go into text mode
[18:40] <madmouser1> Relic exactly the same happening to me
[18:40] <madmouser1> started today out of nowhere :-(
[18:41] <madmouser1> 15.04 64bit with latest updates
[18:41] <madmouser1> not solved yet, had to create a new user and log in with that (that works 100%)
[18:42] <[Relic]> I can't figure out how to force new settings no matter what I try
[18:43] <[Relic]> failsafe mode does nothing, about ready to try something else since this is ridiculous
[18:44] <madmouser1> I even deleted all plasma files in ~/.config/ but still only the black screen with alt-f2 working
[18:44] <madmouser1> as I said at the end I created a new user and logged in with that
[18:45] <madmouser1> busy going through the old profile files to see if I can spot a culprate
[18:46] <[Relic]> like doing diff on the plasma rc files in config?
[18:46] <madmouser1> correct
[18:48] <[Relic]> primary problem is the system doesn't back up previous ones before the new changes
[18:50] <madmouser1> neither syslog or Xorg log gave any real indication of issues
[18:52] <[Relic]> plasma ever load , or is it sddm
[18:52] <[Relic]> have to figure out how to make a new user
[18:54] <madmouser1> ctr-alt-f1
[18:54] <madmouser1> logi nwith current user, sudo adduser <newusername>
[18:54] <madmouser1> sudo adduser <newusername> sudo
[18:55] <madmouser1> if you want that user to be part of sudoers group
[18:56] <madmouser1> this just f"£$%^£ me off to be honest have work on a deadline to get done and now this..
[19:06] <[Relic]> just hoping xorg wasn't was corrupted my monitor edid when it went memory leak happy and started eating over a gig of ram, hopefully I can fix that edid somehow
[19:17] <madmouser1> let me reboot and see if I solved this
[19:19] <madmouser1> ok back in old profile and working .... but had to loose my customizations & THAT SUCKS
[19:20] <madmouser1> deleted files in ~/.cache and ~/.config/plasma*
[19:22] <clivejo> running "sudo dolphin" in konsole will corrupt the display like what your are describing
[19:23] <clivejo> it changes the owner of important config files to root
[20:11] <eXistenZe> Hey guys
[20:12] <eXistenZe> What's the best package magager for kubuntu?
[20:12] <eXistenZe> muon seems kindda meh
[22:21] <shiran365> hello
[22:23] <valorie> hi shiran365, how can we help
[22:24] <shiran365> Hi valorie!
[22:24] <shiran365> I am new to Linux in general, and I recently installed Kubuntu. I like it, but I am having a very strange problem with it, which, after Googling, appears to be a Kubuntu-specific glitch. The problem is that it is considered to be "Officially Fixed" in Kubuntu 15.04, and the mechanism which could fix it in 14.0x was removed. So I'm not really sure what I can even try. The solutions I've found all rely on this removed mechanism.
[22:25] <shiran365> I was hoping somebody here could please try to help me
[22:27] <valorie> but what is the glitch?
[22:28] <shiran365> the glitch is that "Event Sounds" play incredibly loudly. The volume slider for them appears to change the volume, but whenever a new Event Sound plays, it resets to maximum volume. This is almost defeaning on headphones.
[22:29] <shiran365> The most common solution I found was to go to System Applications, Manage System Notifications, and fix it there. But this section no longer exists in Kubuntu 15.04
[22:29] <valorie> ah, I think you can fix that directly in kmix
[22:30] <valorie> which is the little speaker icon in your taskbar
[22:30] <shiran365> that did not work before
[22:30] <valorie> open it all the way up and move system sounds to the bottom or mute
[22:30] <shiran365> nevermind. I no longer have volume at all now. oh boy.
[22:31] <valorie> you have to open it all the way up
[22:31] <valorie> not just mute all sounds
[22:31] <shiran365> "Nothing is playing audio" Every individual volume slider in kmix has disappeared
[22:31] <valorie> !
[22:31] <shiran365> well that can't be good
[22:32] <shiran365> ....I'm gonna restart and come back in a few minutes...
[22:42] <shiran365> hello again
[22:48] <shiran365> Could somebody please help me out with a Kubuntu audio glitch?
[22:52] <shiran365> no matter how I do it, "Event Sounds" refuse to accept any changes in volume I make. They always play at full volumes with headphones on, which can really hurt. They even ignore muting!
[22:58] <ahoneybun> shiran365: maybe the master channel is the wrong channel
[23:01] <shiran365> ahoneybun, I'm not sure how to fix that
[23:02] <ahoneybun> on the far right on the panel there is a speaker icons next to the clock
[23:03] <shiran365> ok
[23:04] <shiran365> I'm in the KDE Mixer, but I don't know how to change the master channel
[23:06] <shiran365> Hmm. I found it. Under Settings and Select Master Channel. For Playback Devices, the proper channel is selected. For Playback Streams, there are only Chromium and Event Sounds. Which of those is supposed to be the "Master Volume"?
[23:11] <ahoneybun> depends on the computer I believe
[23:14] <shiran365> neither one works. Event Sounds still completely ignores what I set the volume to. it even ignores being muted
[23:14] <shiran365> so any time an event sound occurs, like when I get a notification or try to delete something in the file manager, the sound is absurdly loud.
[23:18] <shiran365> do you have any other ideas, ahoneybun? this is the rare type of glitch that can physically hurt... :(
[23:28] <ahoneybun> shiran365: are you on 15.04 or a older release?
[23:28] <shiran365> 15.04, fully updated
[23:43] <shiran365> I found solutions to this glitch on 14.xx and older releases of Kubuntu, but apparently, the glitch is considered "Officially Fixed", and so those methods no longer exist...
[23:45] <ahoneybun> oh
[23:45] <ahoneybun> let me look around
[23:45] <shiran365> I mean, in 15.04, the "System Settings --> Application and System Notifications" location is removed
[23:45] <shiran365> I would appreciate that :)
[23:46] <ahoneybun> where are you setting the volume for "Event Sounds"?
[23:47] <shiran365> I have tried in KMix and in PulseAudio
[23:47] <shiran365> but whenever a new event sound plays, it first raises the volume back to max and then plays. it completely ignores any setting I've managed to find that controls its volume
[23:48] <ahoneybun> oh Playback Streams
[23:48] <ahoneybun> I have never heard a noise from using that
[23:48] <ahoneybun> it is set to max for me
[23:48] <shiran365> yes. any other Playback Stream actually respects when I adjust it. Event Sounds keeps resetting itself to max
[23:49] <ahoneybun> I might have nothing hooked to it
[23:49] <shiran365> I am using headphones
[23:49] <ahoneybun> shiran365: care to send me a screenshot of your KMix setup?
[23:49] <shiran365> each individiual program has a separate slider under Playback Streams
[23:49] <shiran365> sure, one minute
[23:50] <ahoneybun> this might be beyond my help, but we will file a bug and let the devs know
[23:50] <shiran365> which screenshots do you want? Playback Devices, Capture Devices, Playback Streams, Capture Streams
[23:50] <shiran365> or all 4?
[23:51] <shiran365> This bug existed... I found a page about it earlier today where a Kubuntu dev commented that it is "fixed in 15.04" and so the bug was closed. I can't seem to find it again
[23:51] <ahoneybun> send me a screenshot of Audio Setup and a link to that bug
[23:51] <shiran365> I can't find the bug :\
[23:51] <ahoneybun> oh right
[23:51]  * ahoneybun looks
[23:52] <shiran365> Audio setup itself has about 10 different submenus :P
[23:53] <ahoneybun> just Audio Hardware Setup
[23:53] <ahoneybun> 2nd tab
[23:54] <ahoneybun> I found this but it is from 12.04: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970696
[23:55] <ahoneybun> but the system is setup is similar
[23:56] <shiran365> no
[23:56] <shiran365> I already have the right one setup as master channel
[23:56] <ahoneybun> ok
[23:56] <shiran365> Event Sounds just thinks it's special
[23:57] <shiran365> sorry, never taken a screenshot of a single window with Kubuntu before. give me a minute to figure it out :P
[23:57] <ahoneybun> found some bug report: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.bugs/1521048
[23:58] <shiran365> it includes a solution. but the solution is already in place!
[23:59] <shiran365> it says to edit pulse daemon.conf and set "flat-volumes = no"
[23:59] <shiran365> that's the default setting in 15.04, it seems