| mapps | aquarius isnt bad | 01:11 |
|---|---|---|
| mapps | on ep8/13;] | 01:11 |
| ball | Matel Aquarius? | 01:24 |
| penguin42 | haha | 01:26 |
| mapps | ne | 03:01 |
| mapps | the tv show=] | 03:02 |
| ball | mapps: I haven't seen (or heard of) it. | 03:09 |
| mapps | hm | 03:10 |
| mapps | check imdb;p | 03:10 |
| daftykins | mornin' | 03:10 |
| mapps | mornin daftykins , just wakeup? | 03:10 |
| daftykins | newp | 03:11 |
| daftykins | just sat on the sofa | 03:11 |
| mapps | :D | 03:12 |
| mapps | what u watching? | 03:12 |
| mapps | im on e9 of aquarius now yay was on e2 today been atchin it all night | 03:12 |
| mapps | 13 eps will have it done by monday | 03:12 |
| daftykins | just got the lengthy headphones plugged into the amp with some music on from the HTPC at the mo | 03:12 |
| ball | I need to buy a new telly before I think about an HTPC | 03:14 |
| ball | Mine's ...unwell. | 03:15 |
| mapps | :( | 03:15 |
| mapps | ive got a 44" asung full d does the job i use a sumvision cyclone micro 3 to play my media fils | 03:15 |
| mapps | whats your htpc daftykins | 03:16 |
| daftykins | well i have an ancient atom + ion 1 nettop by ASRock, but i've been recently playing with... https://www.dropbox.com/sh/87pjdo1y2ipaoge/AADHn4GFQCQiihkHql-AeR0sa?dl=0 | 03:17 |
| daftykins | wifi can't handle my content though :) | 03:18 |
| mapps | 180p? | 03:28 |
| mapps | 1080 | 03:28 |
| daftykins | of course | 03:28 |
| daftykins | it's more my router + placement than wifi tech not handling the content, mind you | 03:28 |
| daftykins | my proper HTPC is wired :> as it should be | 03:28 |
| * ball sighs | 03:30 | |
| daftykins | hmm? | 03:30 |
| daftykins | still can't read that thing? | 03:30 |
| ball | I should probably drop some Cat5e but it's such a hassle. | 03:30 |
| daftykins | 6 :) | 03:31 |
| daftykins | i loved it, as usual had my place all networked way before i had a net connection sorted | 03:31 |
| ball | I suppose I could go into the cupboard and up to the attic that way. | 03:32 |
| ball | ...but then I'll have to find a way to route the cable down into the kitchen where the router lives. | 03:32 |
| daftykins | kitchen O_O | 03:34 |
| daftykins | put a fresh phone line, if xDSL, somewhere else? :D | 03:34 |
| ball | daftykins: I suppose I could put up a shelf in the garage and put all the networky stuff out there. | 03:35 |
| daftykins | anywhere that's nice an' cool :) | 03:36 |
| ball | daftykins: Everywhere's cool in the winter. The garage shouldn't get too hot in summer because it's at least in the shade. | 03:37 |
| ball | -20C for days on end. | 03:37 |
| * ball shudders | 03:37 | |
| daftykins | hehe | 03:37 |
| ball | I'm getting too old for these winters. | 03:37 |
| ball | ...but I don't have the luxury of moving elsewhere. | 03:38 |
| daftykins | what neck of the woods did you end up in again? | 03:41 |
| ball | daftykins: Illinois, USA | 03:44 |
| ball | Oh well. I should go and watch a Coursera lecture or something. | 03:49 |
| ball | I hope everyone has a good morning. | 03:50 |
| daftykins | and you sir o/ | 03:55 |
| ball | Thanks | 03:56 |
| ball | I said that and then got into a conversation in ##electronics | 03:56 |
| ball | I'm trying to find a 7V battery. :-) | 03:56 |
| daftykins | ooh | 03:56 |
| daftykins | could be fun | 03:57 |
| ball | Someone found a mammoth 7.5V battery that's for electric fences. Think I'll pass on that one. :-D | 03:57 |
| daftykins | whoa i wonder what those look like | 04:00 |
| ball | A bit like a small bucket. | 04:01 |
| ball | I think I may use a six-cell AAA holder and NiMH cells. | 04:01 |
| ball | That's 7.2V and will be less unweildy. | 04:02 |
| daftykins | NiMH always reminds me of the rats of Nimh | 04:03 |
| * ball nods | 04:04 | |
| daftykins | ok i must run, cya \o | 04:04 |
| ball | Goodbye! | 04:06 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 08:49 |
| bigcalm | Anybody here got Netflix working in Chromium? | 08:49 |
| bigcalm | Or do I have to install chrome? | 08:50 |
| * bigcalm installs chrome and gets on with his life | 08:56 | |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:11 |
| bigcalm | Afternoon | 09:14 |
| brobostigon | hi bigcalm | 09:16 |
| popey | bigcalm: yes, needs chrome | 13:52 |
| bigcalm | tum te tum | 14:58 |
| bigcalm | What's good to watch on Netflix? | 14:58 |
| * penguin42 doesn't have this new fangled tech | 14:59 | |
| zmoylan-pi | not as good as a 14" portable telly with bunny ears in the 80s with 8bit computer plugged into it... :-) | 15:01 |
| zmoylan-pi | the hammer horror and sci fi flick seasons on bbc2 and c4... | 15:04 |
| penguin42 | The Freeview 'Horror' channel is particularly bad | 15:04 |
| shauno | meh, you can keep channel36, I've got my amiga doing hdmi now :) | 15:11 |
| penguin42 | haha | 15:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | still rendering babylon5? :-P | 15:12 |
| shauno | I'd be impressed if they could get it do genlock on hd720; but probably not entirely surprised. just impressed | 15:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | amiga still has a lot of fans as it was just so far ahead | 15:18 |
| shauno | I dunno. it's mostly just stupid now. the video card in my amiga is newer than the one in my mac | 15:20 |
| shauno | it cracks me up that there's still people designing, building & selling new hardware for it | 15:21 |
| penguin42 | yeh odd isn't it | 15:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | where there's geeks there's brass :-) | 15:22 |
| penguin42 | or more normally copper and silicon | 15:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | hey, in some of the 70s and 80s ancient systems there was gold | 15:28 |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: Hey a Pentium Pro from ~2000 has enough gold to make it worth extracting | 15:29 |
| shauno | in ~2000 you probably could have panned for gold on my bedroom floor :/ | 15:30 |
| shauno | luckily I don't quite have the elephant graveyard thing going on anymore | 15:31 |
| penguin42 | ahem, I still do :-) | 15:31 |
| penguin42 | shauno: Can't offer you a Sun 3/60 can I ? | 15:32 |
| shauno | I move too often. things just disapppear | 15:32 |
| penguin42 | nod | 15:32 |
| * zmoylan-pi waits for someone to admit using a vax just as a warm spot for their cat... :-D | 15:33 | |
| * penguin42 doesn't have a cat (or a vax) | 15:35 | |
| zmoylan-pi | but have an above average amount of penguins? :-) | 15:36 |
| penguin42 | maybe.... | 15:36 |
| shauno | never really got into unix boxes. when you say vax, I just picture a henry-style vacuum. which shouldn't be applied to cats I guess. | 15:36 |
| * penguin42 was a bit late for vaxen | 15:37 | |
| zmoylan-pi | my father used a nilfisk hoover on the cat who had a horrible skin condition at the time to stop it spreading. did leave the cat with a slight /impression/ of the hoover afterwards though... | 15:37 |
| penguin42 | haha | 15:38 |
| daftykins | shauno: you killed elepehants :( | 15:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | years later she was still pushing the hoover down stairs to eliminate her oppressor... | 15:39 |
| daftykins | so a drastic vacuum sucking to the cat's skin prevented it from spreading? | 15:39 |
| shauno | oh I killed everything. the interesting bits are always on the inside. if I'd been a med student I would have been jack the ripper. | 15:40 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:41 |
| daftykins | so what happened to dan? | 15:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | there was some tick in the scales of skin coming off, so hoovering off the dead skin meant it healed in 2 weeks instead of pills for months. not sure the cat appreciate the quick cure... | 15:41 |
| daftykins | ah wow | 15:41 |
| shauno | he wdan turned out to be more interesting on the inside ;) | 15:41 |
| daftykins | how did your dad know? | 15:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | he'd dealt with a lot of cats with this condition as it was common in our town at the time | 15:42 |
| daftykins | ah har | 15:43 |
| daftykins | somewhere was a crashed UFO with the cause | 15:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | i think it was just stray cats with the tick fighting domestic cats spreading it | 15:45 |
| MartijnVdS | tick fighting? | 15:48 |
| penguin42 | better than stick fighting | 15:49 |
| Azelphur | Anyone know of a nice piece of software for browsing games with a 10ft interface and controller support? | 16:14 |
| MartijnVdS | steam | 16:14 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: not sure if I could use steam with emulated games and such? plus internet connectivity is somewhat of an issue | 16:15 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: I think you can put custom links to games in steam, and it'll just run the program for you | 16:16 |
| Azelphur | yea I think you can too, but I'm sure I've seen software dedicated to this whole emulator thing. | 16:16 |
| daftykins | hrmm yeah what's the one a mate uses | 16:49 |
| daftykins | lets see | 16:49 |
| daftykins | Azelphur: how about that ROM collection browser thing? | 16:55 |
| daftykins | might've been Pi only, not sure | 16:55 |
| Azelphur | I found Emulation Station, it looks really good :) | 16:55 |
| popey | speaking of which | 17:06 |
| popey | I'm using emulation station on a pi 2 | 17:06 |
| popey | works nicely | 17:06 |
| popey | decided to put all the games on my server, and mount that over the /home/pi/retropie/roms dir | 17:06 |
| popey | so I can have more than one and keep roms in one place and not have to load up the pi with stuff | 17:07 |
| Azelphur | Yea I'm certainly liking it, I'm gonna be using it at the national autistic society, I think this'll score me some points | 17:07 |
| popey | its really nicely done | 17:07 |
| popey | only shows emulators in the list if it finds roms | 17:07 |
| popey | which surprised me, but makes sense. | 17:07 |
| Azelphur | nice :) | 17:07 |
| Myrtti | I ♥ Dell's Twitter support. That is all. | 17:07 |
| Azelphur | bought 4 xbox controllers, setting it up so that the xbox button kills the emulator which returns you to game selection, which is controlled by the xbox controller | 17:07 |
| Azelphur | got wiimotes hooked up for wii games, xbox for everything else | 17:08 |
| popey | sweet | 17:08 |
| directhex | not 4 stream controllers? :o | 17:31 |
| bigcalm | directhex: were you going to buy one no matter the cost? | 17:33 |
| directhex | bigcalm: i've already preordered, at game in town | 17:34 |
| directhex | http://www.game.co.uk/en/hardware/steam/?merchname=hubsteam-_-controller-_-HardwareBundles | 17:35 |
| bigcalm | Steam link and controller for under 100 quid | 17:35 |
| bigcalm | I think I just might | 17:36 |
| bigcalm | How well do they work with enternet over power? | 17:36 |
| bigcalm | That is, what sort of bandwidth does steam streaming need? | 17:36 |
| directhex | no idea! fine, i'd guess. latency is the main problem | 17:36 |
| bigcalm | I'll pre-order once I've been paid (in 3 days) | 17:38 |
| bigcalm | Hope I remember to | 17:38 |
| Azelphur | popey: I'm having a fun idea for emulation station, if I create a custom login session that launches just emulation station, and then set my wallpaper to a funky "loading screen" - things would look way cooler. | 17:39 |
| directhex | you need framebuffer handover, so you get the same logo from kernel boot to app load! | 17:41 |
| daftykins | diddledan: there you are! i thought shauno had killed you and hidden the body | 18:21 |
| diddledan | :-p | 18:21 |
| diddledan | I'm in Wales | 18:21 |
| daftykins | on hols? | 18:21 |
| diddledan | sheeps eat the internets here | 18:22 |
| diddledan | yeah | 18:22 |
| daftykins | tasty packets | 18:22 |
| shauno | to be fair, wales probably isn't a bad spot to hide the body | 18:30 |
| daftykins | mmm, plenty of valleys to get lost in so i hear | 18:30 |
| penguin42 | not shauno the sheep | 18:36 |
| daftykins | :O | 18:38 |
| zmoylan-pi | no no it's a modification of using pigeons for internet, white sheep for 0's black sheep for 1's... | 18:49 |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: Hmm, have you seen the RFC on ultra slow speed networking? | 18:50 |
| penguin42 | zmoylan-pi: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1217 | 18:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | that might work better than sheep, my system keeps going to sleep tracking the sheep packets... | 18:57 |
| diddledan | the problem with sheep-0based communications is the sheeps keep jumping out of the field (cable) | 19:05 |
| penguin42 | diddledan: Fortunately you can keep them in line with a data orientation guide | 19:06 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: you should write that one up as an RFC | 19:06 |
| diddledan | sheep networking must be very power efficient though if it causes random sleeps | 19:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | that and it looks like the cloud with all those sheep streaming past | 19:08 |
| daftykins | wake on LAN could be a remote shock collar | 19:09 |
| penguin42 | of course the whole thing could be implemented in an open mint sauce library | 19:13 |
| * daftykins gasps | 19:13 | |
| zmoylan-pi | firewalls would become firefences... | 19:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | sysadmins would be shepherds... | 19:21 |
| * penguin42 didn't think shepherds were that drunk | 19:23 | |
| daftykins | it would rule out users at last! | 19:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | shepherds aren't allowed to drink and drive either :-) | 19:25 |
| bigcalm | Caved in and pre-ordered http://www.game.co.uk/en/steam-link-with-steam-controller-and-20-steam-wallet-top-up-bundle-only-at-game-644059 | 20:12 |
| daftykins | yay early adopting ;) | 20:12 |
| bigcalm | I have a long history of impulse buyings | 20:13 |
| bigcalm | 100 notes isn't my worst mistake to date | 20:13 |
| daftykins | :D | 20:13 |
| bigcalm | I'm wondering about the controller, but the link box will be useful | 20:13 |
| m0nkey_ | i preordered the steam controller | 20:14 |
| bigcalm | Proved that I can connect Linux and Windows machines to my home server via openvpn. I'm going to throw it at the office network tomorrow. Only unknown is our remote workers with Macs | 20:17 |
| bigcalm | I assume that they will have no trouble connecting | 20:18 |
| bigcalm | Well, the technically minded one anyway | 20:18 |
| m0nkey_ | bigcalm, you have Viscosity (paid) or Tunnelblick (free) for Mac | 20:18 |
| m0nkey_ | Viscosity if your Mac users are casuals | 20:18 |
| daftykins | bigcalm: i have a Mavericks VM if you'd like a test run | 20:18 |
| bigcalm | daftykins: I would actually, thanks | 20:19 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: openvpn works fine on Macs | 20:19 |
| bigcalm | Well, there's the proof needed | 20:19 |
| daftykins | hehe | 20:19 |
| bigcalm | What I need to work out is if I want to tunnel or bridge | 20:19 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: IIRC its fairly easy to build tunnellbick config bundles | 20:19 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: you want tunnel | 20:20 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: I think I'll let Nicholas sort that out and then pass it to other Mac users ;) | 20:20 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: Okay, tunnel is the default from the howto I followed | 20:21 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: yes, bridge is only needed for certain niche usecases | 20:21 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: other thing is, do I want to leave the IP allocation at 10.8.0.0/24 or change it 192.168.42.0/24 (what the office vlan will be on)? | 20:22 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: have you tried either/both bits of the cable I swapped with you? | 20:23 |
| daftykins | i think you'd want to put VPN clients on their own subnet | 20:23 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: and did I miss much after leaving the social on Friday? | 20:23 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: VPN clients need to be on their own network, other wise you can't route them | 20:23 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: didn't miss anything | 20:24 |
| bigcalm | daftykins: okay. Looks like I can push routes from the server side over to clients | 20:24 |
| daftykins | yeah they'd get routes on connection | 20:24 |
| daftykins | inherited routes i think they call it | 20:24 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: you can also use CCD to add routes to the local machine should you wish to allow the office to access something on the otherside of a client | 20:24 |
| bigcalm | So requests to 192.168.42.0/24 will be sent to 10.8.0.1? | 20:25 |
| daftykins | if that's the gateway for that subnet ja | 20:25 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: if 10.8.0.1 is the OpenVPN server, yes | 20:25 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: yeah, I've been reading about that. Not sure what use case there will be for the office side to directly connect to clients | 20:25 |
| daftykins | well you need two-way awareness for most communication to work of course | 20:26 |
| daftykins | e.g. a host on the work side needs to know the VPN subnet is available via the OpenVPN server, to reach clients in order to respond to a ping test | 20:26 |
| blizzard | Hia, I'm experiencing an odd issue with my USB HDD - is this the right place to ask? It does seem to be an Ubuntu specific problem. | 20:26 |
| bigcalm | !ask | blizzard | 20:27 |
| lubotu3 | blizzard: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 20:27 |
| daftykins | fire away, blizzard | 20:27 |
| intrbiz | daftykins: the default gateway of the hosts on the work network needs to know how to route traffic to the VPN, not the actual hosts | 20:27 |
| daftykins | yeah true | 20:27 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: when I got the vpn working at home this morning, I almost drove to the office to set things up there | 20:27 |
| bigcalm | Thankfully I wasn't a fool to myself for a change | 20:28 |
| daftykins | :D | 20:28 |
| daftykins | i too have learnt that lesson the hard way | 20:29 |
| intrbiz | daftykins: :) | 20:29 |
| daftykins | intrbiz: just obviously it gets its' routes from said box | 20:29 |
| daftykins | i went to replace a CMOS battery the other day and ended up having to do a whole motherboard swap =| | 20:29 |
| bigcalm | Ouch | 20:29 |
| daftykins | swapped the battery over, machine would not POST again no matter what i did | 20:29 |
| bigcalm | Battery upside down? | 20:30 |
| daftykins | nah | 20:30 |
| intrbiz | daftykins: well id you do try to extract the battery with a sledgehammer....... | 20:30 |
| daftykins | prior to replacing it, if it lost mains it wasn't POSTing again unless i used the jumper | 20:30 |
| daftykins | to reset ofc | 20:31 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: do either part of my console cable work with your switch? | 20:31 |
| daftykins | blizzard: so... what's up? | 20:31 |
| foobarry | hey guys | 20:32 |
| blizzard | Thanks, I have recently purchased a USB 3 hard drive. I have just over 200GB of data to transfer across so I tried plugging it into the USB 3 port on the back of my PC to find that I get a transfer speed of 1.8Mb/s. I also tried in a USB 2 port and got just over 30Mb/s which dropped by about 0.5Mb/s every second until it reached 1.8Mb/s again. The drive is formatted using NFTS as I need to be able to access these files on a Windows PC | 20:32 |
| blizzard | later. | 20:32 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: I blogged my numpty guide to getting the switch working: http://www.myrant.net/2015/06/06/basic-set-up-of-a-3com-4500-managed-network-switch/ | 20:32 |
| foobarry | found a new twitter app today..is great | 20:32 |
| foobarry | no ads or junk | 20:32 |
| foobarry | lots of features | 20:32 |
| foobarry | its called twidere | 20:32 |
| foobarry | (android) | 20:32 |
| daftykins | blizzard: what's the target data? testing a single large file would be the best speed test | 20:33 |
| bigcalm | blizzard: I'm not saying that it isn't, but what makes you say that it's an Ubuntu specific issue? | 20:33 |
| bigcalm | blizzard: also, what's the read speed of the source drive? | 20:34 |
| blizzard | daftykins: I tried using a single 100GB file to test and encountered the same problem. | 20:34 |
| daftykins | also those units are megabits per second which isn't the correct choice for a disk transfer | 20:34 |
| daftykins | blizzard: which OS created the NTFS volume? | 20:36 |
| daftykins | does a Windows system function better with this same drive? | 20:36 |
| blizzard | The drive was formatted in Windows and has the advertised speeds on a Windows machine. | 20:38 |
| daftykins | ok mix it up by trying some other file systems and cluster sizes | 20:38 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: cool | 20:38 |
| daftykins | exFAT would also be a good choice for a disk being shared between OSs | 20:38 |
| blizzard | daftykins: I'll give exFAT a go - I shall report back ^^ | 20:39 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: FYI I get no luck with that USB-Serial adapter | 20:44 |
| blizzard | Ok, so "sudo mkfs.exfat /dev/sda1" fails with "sudo: mkfs.exfat: command not found" | 20:44 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: either part? | 20:45 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: tried the USB-Serial adapter with the 3com cable, no joy | 20:45 |
| bigcalm | Poo | 20:45 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: the adapter isn't even detected on my chromebook, I get no data on my desktop | 20:46 |
| bigcalm | Weird | 20:46 |
| bigcalm | It was on my workstation and laptop | 20:46 |
| bigcalm | I have the switch set-up to accept SSH and web now. So can bring your cables back to you tomorrow | 20:47 |
| intrbiz | I'll bring it along tomorrow and you can see if you get any luck with it + the cable you have | 20:47 |
| daftykins | blizzard: make it from Windows | 20:47 |
| bigcalm | Oh, okay, thanks | 20:47 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: I'm also fairly certain that the older 3coms use a different RJ45 pinout to Cisco (and I think the new 3com / HP kit) :( | 20:48 |
| bigcalm | blizzard: do you have `exfat-utils` installed? | 20:48 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: so that cable might work with a modern 3com/HP switch? | 20:48 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: possibly, it'll work with a cisco switch | 20:49 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: should you ever need to | 20:49 |
| bigcalm | Right | 20:49 |
| blizzard | bigcalm: I thought I did but obviously not - I've returned to Ubuntu after a long time with Windows so I'm still getting used to things again | 20:50 |
| bigcalm | Welcome back :) | 20:50 |
| blizzard | bigcalm: Thanks! :) The drive is now formatted and I'm going to give the copy another try | 20:51 |
| bigcalm | blizzard: good luck | 20:51 |
| daftykins | i still think it's a mistake creating exFAT on that side when wanting to mix usage, but ah well we'll see | 20:52 |
| blizzard | The speed started great! ~100MB/s Now it's dropped very fast to <10MB/s :( | 20:54 |
| daftykins | if there are multiple ports for USB 3, try another | 20:54 |
| blizzard | This is with the 100GB test file | 20:54 |
| daftykins | also disable any bluetooth you might have, as apparently they interfere | 20:54 |
| blizzard | daftykins: I don't have bluetooth - I'll try the other port ^^ | 20:55 |
| blizzard | I'm having the same problem on the other port :/ | 20:56 |
| daftykins | what's the USB controller in this machine? i noticed a bit ago that true intel chipset USB 3 gets far better speeds than the Fresco Logic / Renesas controller in my Asus | 20:57 |
| blizzard | It's a VIA Chipset - how would I find out the model number? | 20:58 |
| intrbiz | got a renesas uPD720202 controller in this box, get no issue hitting decent speeds with my USB3 HDD | 20:59 |
| intrbiz | blizzard: lspci -v or lscpi -vv | 20:59 |
| daftykins | yes but shockingly enough chips are implemented in different ways (: | 21:00 |
| Sebsebsebb | Hi | 21:00 |
| daftykins | evening | 21:01 |
| * bigcalm breaks the warranty seal on this 2006 network switch | 21:01 | |
| Sebsebsebb | If you but a computer from us and put Linux on it, you will probably break the warranty depending on manufacturer. Yes I have had that kind of chat today with people from a company, and I am thinking if I should even care about the warranty or not really | 21:03 |
| blizzard | Here is the result from lspci -vv - I can't make head nor tail of this :( http://pastebin.com/tzfnduAW | 21:03 |
| Sebsebsebb | Buy a above | 21:03 |
| intrbiz | gets 90MiB/s off USB3 HDD | 21:03 |
| bigcalm | I can't decide if there is more or less gubbins inside this network switch than I expected | 21:05 |
| Sebsebsebb | I guess warranty is useless anyway unless up for sending off somewhere if breaks enough | 21:05 |
| intrbiz | Sebsebsebb: not uncommon to remove HDD when sending off for repair | 21:09 |
| Sebsebsebb | Yeah some do trucks | 21:09 |
| Sebsebsebb | Like putting the defsultb windows hard dusk back in | 21:10 |
| Azelphur | Can anyone who's a bit more wizard than me confirm that when you're writing a wrapper shell script that passes all arguments to another program, you'd use "$@" and not $@ ? (like this https://github.com/Azelphur/pcsx2/blob/master/bin/PCSX2-linux.sh#L73 ) | 21:10 |
| Sebsebsebb | Tricks above | 21:10 |
| Azelphur | And if there would be any unforseen consequences in changing $@ to "$@" | 21:10 |
| intrbiz | Azelphur: "$@" will essentially "" quote each element of $@ | 21:11 |
| Azelphur | I see, interesting | 21:11 |
| intrbiz | Azelphur: you'd use "$@" in a wrapper script, to avoice spaces in arguments breaking what you invoke | 21:11 |
| intrbiz | s/avoice/avoid/ | 21:12 |
| Azelphur | yup, good I'm getting it right then :) | 21:12 |
| Sebsebsebb | A seller I been in contact with today someone from that suggested I contacted manufacture about Linux and warranty, but I guess not much point really | 21:12 |
| daftykins | Sebsebsebb: why did you need to get in touch about warranty? what happened? | 21:12 |
| Sebsebsebb | Nothing just decideing on what lap tois to buy soo | 21:13 |
| blizzard | Is it possible the drive write speed is actually really slow and the high speeds I see are just some kind of buffer? | 21:13 |
| daftykins | well all disks have cache | 21:14 |
| Sebsebsebb | Although it seems with ho your indeed on your own when got Linux on there | 21:14 |
| Sebsebsebb | probably for others like acer and asus to | 21:15 |
| Sebsebsebb | Hp above | 21:15 |
| Sebsebsebb | They all just support Windows really, even the ones who pretend to like Linux or well to some extent such as HP and Dell | 21:16 |
| intrbiz | blizzard: how fast is the driver under windows? | 21:17 |
| blizzard | intrbiz: Around 100MB/s | 21:18 |
| intrbiz | blizzard: sustained | 21:19 |
| Sebsebsebb | So is uefu pretty much a non issue now with most distros? Dual booting with windows or multi booting with windows and a few distros even? | 21:20 |
| Sebsebsebb | U EFI | 21:20 |
| blizzard | intrbiz: It's usually between 80MB/s and 100MB/s | 21:21 |
| Azelphur | This is why I love open source stuff, people say nobody ever goes into the code. Started using PCSX2 less than 2 hours ago and my patch is already in master | 21:21 |
| blizzard | Trying to mount the source HDD and getting this error now http://pastebin.com/mqQ0fGqn | 21:22 |
| daftykins | Sebsebsebb: it's been easy for ages yeah, but you need to have some knowledge in mind to make it easy | 21:22 |
| intrbiz | blizzard: ok, that would suggest the drive is fine, and the issues are Linux driver related | 21:22 |
| blizzard | intrbiz: ok, is there any fix? I heard something about mounting the drive async but I have no idea how or what it really means | 21:23 |
| Sebsebsebb | daftykins Even after reading this blog post about it from Mageia's blog | 21:24 |
| Sebsebsebb | I am hmmm about it | 21:24 |
| daftykins | *cough* we were at that understanding earlier, intrbiz ;) | 21:24 |
| intrbiz | blizzard: are you copying NTFS to USB HDD from linux? | 21:24 |
| Sebsebsebb | Since not got any experience with UEFI | 21:24 |
| daftykins | Sebsebsebb: what about the actual EFI factoid link? | 21:24 |
| daftykins | !efi | 21:24 |
| lubotu3 | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 21:24 |
| daftykins | it is very simple to boot windows 8, resize your C: from inside Windows to make space for ubuntu, boot ubuntu from flash drive - then install beside | 21:25 |
| blizzard | intrbiz: Yeah, the source drive is NTFS | 21:25 |
| intrbiz | Sebsebsebb: it's irrelevant what yours, mine, or most other peoples thoughts on EFI are, its a reality | 21:25 |
| daftykins | i thought you just redid it to exFAT? :> | 21:26 |
| blizzard | daftykins: the external drive is exFAT, the internal drive is NTFS# | 21:26 |
| daftykins | ah that kind of source drive | 21:27 |
| intrbiz | blizzard: have you tested how fast it is to copy the NTFS source drive to something else? | 21:27 |
| Sebsebsebb | Intrbiz yeah but I am in the verge have having two new computers sent to me, one is for someone else, but yes the idea is to dual boy them at learnt windows and Linux | 21:27 |
| blizzard | intrbiz: I'll give that a go now | 21:28 |
| Sebsebsebb | Might even try multi booting with more than one disttro on mine if u EFI doesn't cause to ,many problems | 21:28 |
| Sebsebsebb | So things need to work and then :) | 21:30 |
| blizzard | intrbiz: You may be on to something! From one internal NTFS drive to another, the speed was a blistering 1MB/s | 21:31 |
| intrbiz | blizzard: righty, NTFS-3G does have some known performance problems, but 1MB/s seems rather slow | 21:34 |
| intrbiz | blizzard: are you able to copy what you want from Windows? | 21:34 |
| bigcalm | Time to fix a large G&T for the returning wife | 21:36 |
| blizzard | I can copy the stuff from Windows but I'm stuck with 20MB/s because Windows has stopped recognising the USB3 chipset completely | 21:37 |
| daftykins | o0 | 21:37 |
| intrbiz | blizzard: ah, not having much luck | 21:37 |
| daftykins | it... has? in what way? flagged up in device manager with issues? | 21:37 |
| blizzard | It doesn't even show up in device manager | 21:38 |
| daftykins | laptop? | 21:41 |
| daftykins | time to pull the mains and battery | 21:41 |
| blizzard | I'm on a desktop | 21:41 |
| daftykins | mains pull is always good to reset USB controllers | 21:42 |
| blizzard | Shut down first or just kill it? | 21:43 |
| daftykins | yeah safe shutdown | 21:43 |
| blizzard | I'll be back shortly - I'll just see if it fixes anything | 21:44 |
| intrbiz | ah, lights out cards allow one to be so lazy | 22:08 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: Finally sorted out the routing that I wanted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11634762/ | 22:24 |
| bigcalm | I'm even connecting to my irssi proxy via the tunnel rather than internal network :) | 22:24 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: cool :) | 22:32 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: out of interest what is the value of 'server' in your openvpn server config? | 22:35 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: are you using tls-auth on your openvpn server? | 22:35 |
| bigcalm | I don't think that I changed the default config for server | 22:36 |
| bigcalm | server 192.168.81.0 255.255.255.0 | 22:36 |
| bigcalm | So I did change the default, just couldn't remember the settings :) | 22:37 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: you might want to add 'topology subnet' to your server cfg, reccomened for new installs | 22:45 |
| bigcalm | What does that do? | 22:46 |
| blizzard | Hia, I have returned with a fully working USB 3 chipset - thanks for the tip! | 22:46 |
| daftykins | blizzard: power pull worked huh? | 22:47 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 22:47 |
| daftykins | cheapest fix | 22:47 |
| blizzard | daftykins: Yup! I have now copied everything across - Strangely enough, when I was shutting down, the system hung telling me that lsusb was delaying shutdown or something so I ended up hitting the reset switch anyway :P | 22:50 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: it uses a normal subnet topology rather than putting each client in a /30 subnet | 22:51 |
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| bigcalm | Ah, okay. I'll look at that tomorrow | 23:23 |
| bigcalm | Thanks | 23:23 |
| daftykins | www.twitch.tv/daftpunkle | 23:23 |
| daftykins | Dying Light xbox one intro | 23:23 |
| directhex | i should have played splatoon this evening. | 23:26 |
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