[00:09] <cscheib> about 75% of enterprise management tools
[00:09] <cscheib> at least, they need to know what to do with a jnlp
[00:30] <jrwren> that is still a thing?!?
[00:30] <jrwren> man, I love my bubble life.
[00:32] <cscheib> yea
[00:32] <cscheib> HP iLO still requires either Java or .NET
[00:32] <cscheib> for example.
[00:32] <jrwren> o_O?
[00:32] <cscheib> and, most anything storage related requires Java
[00:33] <jrwren> for some definition of storage :p
[00:33] <jrwren> isn't iLO their BMC?
[00:34] <jrwren> i dont' konw how you can require java or .net for BMC. its just insane.
[00:34] <cscheib> even digitalocean's "console" tty requires java
[00:35] <jrwren> WAT?
[00:35] <jrwren> surely not.
[00:35] <cscheib> you can SSH to the iLO as well, but it's a bit wonky
[00:35] <jrwren> ah, so not required.
[00:35] <cscheib> and you can't actually hit a console
[00:35] <cscheib> just power up/down
[00:35] <cscheib> afaik
[00:36] <cscheib> ther power functions and KVM are the whole reason to use iLO
[00:43] <jrwren> yup.
[00:44] <jrwren> arbor had very nice setup for that sort of thing, but given that the devices arbor sold were managed more like routers, it was serial consoles for remote access.
[00:44] <jrwren> no reasons servers can't be that way today.
[00:44] <jrwren> but sadly, most folks don't see it that way.
[00:51] <cscheib> yea, but most BIOSes (including option ROMs) are menu based
[00:51] <cscheib> so they'd have to change that
[00:51] <cscheib> even Cisco's UCS stuff, if you want a graphical interface, you get Java
[00:52] <cscheib> but they have a good API to do just about everything (except KVM)
[00:53] <jrwren> menu based worked great via consoled *shrug*
[00:55] <cscheib> eh, I've done it, it can be really weird
[00:58] <jrwren> now that you mention it, yeah, sometimes the menu system would fuck up and you'd have to reconnect.
[00:59] <cscheib> I've spent a lot of time on serial consoles, they can be a bitch/awkward when something rewrites the whole screen, and/or you're not using a console server with a history buffer
[04:09] <cmaloney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6-_48Aqso0
[22:19] <shakes808> Hello everyone.   I have a question about some basic github stuff.  When trying to push up a new repo it hangs.  I am in the command line and either get nothing or a message stating it is pushing but it clearly isn't.  I even tried to create it on the github side and pull it down but no dice there either.  any help?
[22:27] <cmaloney> shakes808: Not sure what might be the problem
[22:27] <cmaloney> is it waiting for a prompt perhaps?
[22:29] <shakes808> Hello CMaloney!  Nope.  It doesn't do anything.  I have to manually stop it and sometimes the process.
[22:44] <shakes808> CMaloney, sorry, had to restart.  the process froze and wouldn't die.
[22:45] <shakes808> :|
[22:50] <cmaloney> Ugh
[22:51] <cmaloney> YOu might want to run "dmesg" and see if that gives some hints
[22:51] <cmaloney> also: check to see that you haven't filled up your /var partition
[22:51] <cmaloney> or root partition
[22:53] <brousch> It's not trying to push a giant file, right? Like a video or binary?
[22:56] <shakes808> CMaloney: Working on Windows :|  New computer
[22:56] <shakes808> BRousch: Nope, small .js files
[22:56] <shakes808> going through some NodeJS tuts
[22:57] <shakes808> files are under 15 lines each, 5 of them. :(
[23:56] <_stink_> shakes808: could it be that your hard drive is failing?
[23:56] <_stink_> i like cmaloney's dmesg idea