| rusbus | solidity in atom set tab equal to 4 spaces | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| rusbus | sorted | 00:23 |
| kulelu88 | you a night-owl? rusbus | 00:27 |
| rusbus | I used to be | 00:30 |
| rusbus | not anymore cause of work | 00:30 |
| rusbus | night | 00:33 |
| Kilos | morning nlsthzn and everyone else | 06:21 |
| === rusbus is now known as Russ_|Away | ||
| nlsthzn | o/ | 07:23 |
| captine | morning all | 08:09 |
| Kilos | hi captine hows things? | 08:09 |
| Kilos | hi georgelappies | 08:09 |
| captine | ok. finally finished a project that had me at the office till all hours of hte morning | 08:09 |
| captine | so things should be getting to normal | 08:10 |
| Kilos | i just spent an hour looking at comments on facebook, something i rarely do | 08:10 |
| Kilos | looks like there will never be such a thing as normal anymore | 08:11 |
| Kilos | i see the fly has learned to bake bread and make pizza too | 08:11 |
| Kilos | made me hungry looking at it | 08:12 |
| Cryterion | being unique is far from normal | 08:12 |
| Kilos | hi Cryterion | 08:12 |
| Cryterion | hiya | 08:12 |
| Kilos | captine we have had a flood of new peeps here | 08:12 |
| captine | awesome | 08:12 |
| captine | Kilos, wanted to ask you about your take on the KDE dev and the community council. Struggling to get my head around what happened. | 08:13 |
| Kilos | imo its all about um | 08:13 |
| Kilos | sec lemme think | 08:13 |
| captine | um? | 08:14 |
| Kilos | when peeps differ of opinion and instead of being friendly about it getting agro with each other | 08:14 |
| Kilos | um is when i try think | 08:15 |
| Kilos | when it takes a while then its followed by er | 08:15 |
| captine | lol | 08:15 |
| captine | ok | 08:15 |
| Kilos | they gotta sort it because i <3 kde | 08:16 |
| Kilos | saw an interesting link in the lists for ubuntu users but dont wanna try on my kde | 08:18 |
| Kilos | http://news.softpedia.com/news/You-Can-Now-Install-and-Test-Unity-8-and-Mir-in-Any-Supported-Ubuntu-OS-483206.shtml | 08:18 |
| Kilos | unity 8 is he thing thats gonna get convergence going if i read things correctly | 08:19 |
| Kilos | ai! sticky t | 08:19 |
| superfly | Kilos: they might rename Kubuntu and use Debian instead of Ubuntu. They'll keep KDE. | 08:23 |
| Kilos | whew ty superfly | 08:23 |
| georgelappies | hi all | 08:24 |
| georgelappies | hi Kilos | 08:24 |
| Kilos | hows georgelappies today | 08:25 |
| superfly | Kilos: you can always use Debian, which has KDE | 08:25 |
| georgelappies | lol, good thanks. Cold but good :) | 08:25 |
| superfly | It's a little warmer today in Cape Town | 08:26 |
| Kilos | superfly i will, if things get bad, but im kinda loyal to ubuntu so long | 08:26 |
| Kilos | superfly you must eat freshly baked bread when its hot | 08:26 |
| Kilos | very lekker | 08:26 |
| Kilos | hi chris_za | 08:26 |
| chris_za | howdie | 08:27 |
| superfly | Kilos: I know, it just didn't work out that way. | 08:27 |
| superfly | Hi chris_za | 08:27 |
| Kilos | and your pizza looks great | 08:27 |
| chris_za | was just setting this up for when I get stuck lol | 08:27 |
| Kilos | chris_za you been here before hey? | 08:27 |
| superfly | Kilos: that's mrs_fly's pizza | 08:27 |
| chris_za | nope 1st time | 08:27 |
| Kilos | tell her it looks yummy | 08:27 |
| Kilos | chris_za welcome to ubuntu-za | 08:28 |
| superfly | Kilos: it was very yummy ;-) | 08:28 |
| chris_za | ty :), I promise to behave lol | 08:28 |
| Kilos | you are welcome to hang here 24/7 | 08:28 |
| Kilos | if you need help chris_za just state your prob | 08:28 |
| chris_za | so far my probs are unfixable lol | 08:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:29 |
| chris_za | switched to ubuntu finally and none of my damn prnt's will work :) | 08:29 |
| Kilos | tell us a bit about yourself chris_za starting with how you found us | 08:29 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:30 |
| Kilos | superfly do you use enigmail? | 08:32 |
| Kilos | pro got me to go through all of that yesterday | 08:33 |
| Kilos | now did i chase chris or is it net probs | 08:34 |
| Kilos | sigh | 08:34 |
| superfly | Kilos: no, my email is Web based | 08:38 |
| Kilos | ah | 08:38 |
| Kilos | what a job all this security is | 08:38 |
| captine | superfly, I am a little annoyed with this Kubuntu thing. Really hope to get the full picture to see where I lie.. I love Unity, and am really enjoying Gnome 3 on 15.04... but to be honest, never really found KDE to be my thing. Used it on Arch for about 3 months and enjoyed it, but for my use case, find Gnome and Unity to fit me... that said, still want to know whats happening, as I would hate Kubuntu to disappear. | 08:47 |
| captine | PS, anyone seen the roundcube indiegogo... I hope companies like my ISP (Cybersmart) club in given their use of Roundcube... | 08:49 |
| Kilos | hi rusbus | 08:50 |
| solidity | rusbus> solidity in atom set tab equal to 4 spaces | 09:17 |
| solidity | That is like sweeping dirt under the rug. | 09:17 |
| solidity | I will know those aren't real tabs but fake tabs. | 09:17 |
| stickyboy | atom text editor is pretty... but not ready yet. | 09:25 |
| solidity | Well, I was looking for a lightweight editor, but it turns out this thing is fairly large. | 09:25 |
| solidity | And slower than I expected. | 09:25 |
| solidity | but I haven't actually used it yet | 09:26 |
| Cryterion | Cryt-Survival: players | 09:28 |
| stickyboy | solidity: Yah, it's CSS + JS. Pretty heavy. | 09:28 |
| Cryterion | hmm, wrong room | 09:28 |
| stickyboy | solidity: Speaking of, lemme update my installed version + plugins... | 09:28 |
| stickyboy | I keep checking it every week or two. | 09:29 |
| solidity | Is it built with CSS + JS? | 09:31 |
| superfly | captine: Kubuntu is not really going to go anywhere. It may change name and morph somewhat, but JRiddell, ScottK and the others are not going anywhere. | 09:31 |
| stickyboy | solidity: Yeah, Atom is Chromium + NodeJS. | 09:32 |
| solidity | oh wow | 09:32 |
| solidity | that is interesting | 09:32 |
| stickyboy | Yah | 09:34 |
| solidity | Maybe I'll keep using it them simply because if that is the platform for it's "hackability" then I should be able to get started right away. | 09:34 |
| stickyboy | It even has a plugin for vim key bindings... | 09:34 |
| solidity | Yeah I saw. | 09:35 |
| solidity | It is more responsive today, guess it was just because it was the first time running yesterday and it hand to cache things and whatnot. | 09:37 |
| solidity | had* | 09:38 |
| stickyboy | solidity: True | 09:43 |
| stickyboy | It does stuff in the backend. Sometimes I see apm doing stuff in htop. | 09:43 |
| stickyboy | https://archive.org/stream/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto/Goamjuly2008_djvu.txt | 09:48 |
| solidity | This is very relevant to my interests. | 09:49 |
| stickyboy | solidity: The open access manifesto? | 09:50 |
| solidity | Ran into paywalls for science papers way too often. | 09:50 |
| stickyboy | It's by Aaron Swartz... who... killed himself. | 09:50 |
| solidity | I'm still reading, but I like what I'm reading. | 09:50 |
| solidity | Why? | 09:53 |
| solidity | inb4 illuminati assassination made to look like suicide | 09:53 |
| solidity | Can't believe I haven't heard of this guy before. | 10:01 |
| stickyboy | Yah, he founded Reddit and was influential in some other web standards, like RSS I think. | 10:03 |
| solidity | Swartz has been identified as a cofounder of Reddit, but the title is a source of controversy. With the merger of Infogami and Reddit, Swartz became a coowner and director of parent company Not A Bug, Inc., along with Reddit cofounders Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian.[220 | 10:08 |
| squish102 | ssh'ing from windows i use mobaxterm... now that i have a mac, what is a good one? | 13:00 |
| rusbus | solidity how is it sweeping dirt under a rug? | 13:03 |
| rusbus | and atom is slow on startup | 13:03 |
| rusbus | but fast otherwise | 13:03 |
| rusbus | unless if you're opening a VERY large file and trying to ctrl+f through it, you won't think it's slow | 13:03 |
| rusbus | Kilos | 13:20 |
| Kilos | yes | 13:20 |
| rusbus | I found tinned curry mix veggies | 13:20 |
| rusbus | :D | 13:20 |
| Kilos | golddish? | 13:20 |
| rusbus | rhodes quality | 13:20 |
| rusbus | still good | 13:21 |
| rusbus | if you never mentioned it I would have been blind to it | 13:21 |
| rusbus | but now I looked for curried veg and found em :D | 13:21 |
| Kilos | i use all the others for adding to a curry i make but the golddish i eat straight out the tin | 13:21 |
| rusbus | I wish they still sold tinned biryai - love that stuff | 13:21 |
| rusbus | hmm I need to find golddish then | 13:21 |
| rusbus | I'm currently chowing this straight from the tin :p | 13:22 |
| Kilos | next time look for gold dish and tell me what you think | 13:22 |
| rusbus | I wish this was spicier but still very good | 13:22 |
| Kilos | they have the recipe spot on and not lots of water with i | 13:22 |
| Kilos | it | 13:22 |
| rusbus | ya this one is more watery than I'd like tbh | 13:22 |
| Kilos | you will see the diffs when you find it | 13:23 |
| Kilos | also to make it better you can make your own with it | 13:23 |
| rusbus | where do you buy from? | 13:23 |
| rusbus | I went to checkers | 13:23 |
| Kilos | fry onions and garlic and he spices you want then add the curry | 13:23 |
| Kilos | all of the supermarkets | 13:24 |
| rusbus | hmm they didn't have golddish | 13:24 |
| rusbus | or I didn't find it | 13:24 |
| Kilos | golddish was the first we could get then the others followed suite | 13:24 |
| rusbus | is it mixed veg | 13:25 |
| rusbus | or something else? | 13:25 |
| Kilos | mixed veg | 13:25 |
| rusbus | I bought some curry powder | 13:25 |
| rusbus | keen to make some curry mince | 13:25 |
| rusbus | and make some roti's | 13:25 |
| rusbus | :D | 13:25 |
| Kilos | less water for starters than the others and richer flavour | 13:25 |
| Kilos | rajah curry powder is the best | 13:26 |
| rusbus | thats what I got :D | 13:26 |
| Kilos | for peeps that cant take hot food the mild and spicy is best | 13:26 |
| Kilos | if you want it hot you add chili | 13:26 |
| Kilos | i have my recipe somewhere ill post it for you when i find it | 13:27 |
| Kilos | oh and you in durbs | 13:27 |
| rusbus | ye | 13:27 |
| Kilos | you can get curry leaves there too | 13:27 |
| rusbus | I like it hot | 13:27 |
| rusbus | :D | 13:27 |
| rusbus | ya there is actually a gorimas like 20m from where I work | 13:28 |
| rusbus | so I can always get stuff easily | 13:28 |
| Kilos | i have a curry leaf tree here i have to carry in every winter | 13:28 |
| rusbus | you carry every winter? | 13:28 |
| rusbus | thats something I need to grow myself | 13:28 |
| Kilos | carry the tree inside or frost kills it | 13:28 |
| rusbus | they make for good looking trees | 13:28 |
| rusbus | oh so yours is potted | 13:29 |
| Kilos | you can get them at nursaries there | 13:29 |
| Kilos | yes large pot | 13:29 |
| Kilos | makes quite a big bush/tree thing | 13:29 |
| rusbus | I like to grow my stuff from seeds | 13:30 |
| Kilos | leaves add taste to any stew without hot curry burn | 13:30 |
| rusbus | I wanted to grow a lemon tree but bought one from a nursery and it hasn't grown in like 6 months that I've had it :( | 13:30 |
| Kilos | these grow from roots sprouting | 13:30 |
| rusbus | what insects chow your tree? | 13:30 |
| Kilos | all around the curry tree new trees come up | 13:31 |
| Kilos | none | 13:31 |
| rusbus | wonder if it'll be the same here | 13:31 |
| Kilos | curry leaf onion and garlic is about all that bugs dont attack | 13:31 |
| rusbus | how do you wash/prepare your leaves? | 13:31 |
| Kilos | yes man i brought my first one from our place in toti | 13:32 |
| Kilos | i just pick them and throw then in | 13:32 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:32 |
| rusbus | that sounds dangerous to me xD | 13:32 |
| rusbus | #ubuntu-za-cooking | 13:32 |
| rusbus | xD | 13:32 |
| rusbus | #ubuntu-za-curry | 13:33 |
| Kilos | ill get you a pic of the tree | 13:33 |
| rusbus | cool :D | 13:33 |
| rusbus | I had an... incident with a friends fathers curry tree | 13:33 |
| rusbus | I don't think he ever forgave me :p | 13:33 |
| rusbus | being the young, testosterone filled adrenaline junkie I was | 13:34 |
| rusbus | I was on my friends BMX | 13:34 |
| rusbus | with him on the back pegs | 13:34 |
| rusbus | cycling as hard as I could down his steep road | 13:34 |
| rusbus | took my hands off the handlebars to make my friend shit himself | 13:34 |
| rusbus | which he did | 13:34 |
| rusbus | took a corner like that | 13:35 |
| rusbus | and into his driveway | 13:35 |
| rusbus | everything was under control | 13:35 |
| rusbus | but he had these big potholes in his driveway | 13:35 |
| rusbus | I tried to go left around it and he freaked out and put his weight to the right | 13:35 |
| rusbus | we smacked the pothole and went flying into the tree | 13:35 |
| rusbus | and OWNED it | 13:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:36 |
| Kilos | just touching those leaves make me hungry | 13:36 |
| Kilos | what a lekker smell | 13:36 |
| rusbus | pavlovs dog :D | 13:36 |
| Kilos | my sis must mail me the pic | 13:37 |
| Kilos | my stupid fone can do pics | 13:37 |
| rusbus | lol | 13:37 |
| Kilos | i mean cant | 13:39 |
| rusbus | I knew what you meant :) | 13:39 |
| Kilos | pm me youe email addy | 13:39 |
| Kilos | i make lotsa typos | 13:39 |
| Kilos | sorry | 13:39 |
| rusbus | my mother has conditioned me to read poorly constructed sentences :p | 13:40 |
| rusbus | (not that yours are) | 13:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:41 |
| Kilos | i even have an advocado pear tree that also must come in in winter | 13:42 |
| Kilos | i really miss toti | 13:42 |
| Kilos | the old toti | 13:42 |
| rusbus | I grew 5 avo trees from pips, my sisters bery young son killed the one | 13:43 |
| rusbus | I need bigger pots for them now | 13:43 |
| rusbus | they're about 2 years old | 13:43 |
| rusbus | very* | 13:43 |
| rusbus | oh, Kilos, your tree is quite small | 13:43 |
| rusbus | my friends fathers free was a little taller than I am | 13:44 |
| rusbus | quite a decent size | 13:44 |
| rusbus | I feel hungry looking at a plant :p | 13:44 |
| Kilos | see the thicks stalks | 13:45 |
| rusbus | ya | 13:45 |
| Kilos | i keep cutting it down so i can carry it in | 13:45 |
| Kilos | they have them in the nursaries around warners winkel i think | 13:46 |
| Kilos | nursaries | 13:47 |
| Kilos | sjoe something looks wrong | 13:47 |
| rusbus | there is a nursary in winkle? | 13:47 |
| Kilos | on the road from warners to winkel there used to be a good one | 13:47 |
| rusbus | I think I only know of two | 13:49 |
| rusbus | illovo nursary | 13:49 |
| rusbus | and then there is a halls mica nursery that is relatively new | 13:49 |
| Kilos | just ask around | 13:49 |
| rusbus | a lot changes in 20 years :p | 13:50 |
| Kilos | they get where the new sprout comes up and take a bit of root on either side and pot it | 13:50 |
| Kilos | yeah | 13:50 |
| rusbus | when last were you here? | 13:50 |
| Kilos | whew lemme work on that | 13:50 |
| Kilos | i think been gone since 88 | 13:51 |
| rusbus | 27 years | 13:51 |
| Kilos | haha | 13:51 |
| rusbus | I know this cause my sister was born in 88 and just turned 27 :p | 13:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:52 |
| rusbus | when last were you in UMHLANGA? | 13:52 |
| rusbus | that place... | 13:52 |
| rusbus | in like 10 years | 13:52 |
| rusbus | went from sugar can to this massive beast | 13:52 |
| rusbus | well back in 88 it wasn't even umhlanga | 13:52 |
| rusbus | do you remember where the sharks board was? | 13:52 |
| rusbus | not sure how long it's been where it is | 13:53 |
| Kilos | yes | 13:53 |
| rusbus | there durban north area | 13:53 |
| Kilos | i met beula there | 13:53 |
| rusbus | in all that sugar cane | 13:53 |
| rusbus | beula? | 13:53 |
| Kilos | beula davies i think her name is | 13:53 |
| Kilos | was head of sharks board | 13:53 |
| rusbus | who is that? xD | 13:53 |
| rusbus | oh | 13:53 |
| rusbus | well when I was a kid | 13:53 |
| rusbus | you literally travelled on a long road | 13:53 |
| rusbus | and got to the sharks board | 13:53 |
| Kilos | yes | 13:53 |
| rusbus | it was just sugar cane everywhere | 13:54 |
| rusbus | now it's madness | 13:54 |
| rusbus | thats near where I work now | 13:54 |
| Kilos | at the sharks board? | 13:54 |
| rusbus | down the road from it | 13:54 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:54 |
| rusbus | https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/Kwazulu-Natal+Sharks+Board/@-29.718266,31.0831562,14z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x1ef705f4cd231243:0xfeb6a6b80c5315c4?hl=en | 13:54 |
| rusbus | just zoom out on that map | 13:54 |
| rusbus | 10 years ago it was ONLY the sharks board there | 13:55 |
| rusbus | ok maybe 15 years | 13:55 |
| rusbus | go into street view | 13:55 |
| rusbus | and look at how built up it is | 13:55 |
| rusbus | the sharks board could sell their land for big moola now | 13:56 |
| Kilos | wow | 13:56 |
| rusbus | those images are 2 years old | 13:56 |
| rusbus | whatever you see under construction there has been finished | 13:57 |
| rusbus | and more stuff next to it | 13:57 |
| Kilos | when i left, if you travelled up to pmb there was nothing behind about 3ks past elgro | 13:57 |
| rusbus | elgro? | 13:57 |
| Kilos | all sugar cane too | 13:57 |
| rusbus | why would you go past elgro | 13:57 |
| Kilos | elgro flats on top of the hill | 13:58 |
| rusbus | I know elgro | 13:58 |
| rusbus | but why go past elgro to go to PMB? | 13:58 |
| gremble | o/ | 13:58 |
| rusbus | o/ | 13:58 |
| Kilos | no man i mean up the pmb road | 13:58 |
| Kilos | there wasnt much other side of elgro | 13:58 |
| rusbus | 'the pmb road' == ? | 13:59 |
| Kilos | like from where you turned left to illovo sugarestates there was nothing | 13:59 |
| rusbus | oh the uuhh | 13:59 |
| rusbus | R206 or w/e it's called | 13:59 |
| Kilos | the pmb road from winkel up | 13:59 |
| rusbus | you'd go that route to PMB? xD | 13:59 |
| Kilos | yes | 14:00 |
| rusbus | I don't think I've ever done that :p | 14:00 |
| rusbus | I've taken that road to other places | 14:00 |
| Kilos | was a lekker road for a fast bike | 14:00 |
| rusbus | but never to pmb | 14:00 |
| rusbus | ya I've taken my bike along there | 14:00 |
| Kilos | many cane trucks though to make things interesting at 200 kph | 14:01 |
| rusbus | ya and dropped sugar cane... | 14:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:01 |
| Kilos | i loved speed | 14:01 |
| rusbus | same | 14:01 |
| rusbus | o/ | 14:02 |
| Kilos | my moto guzzi le mans i think it was loved that road | 14:02 |
| rusbus | it has been a VERY long time since I've seen a moto guzzi | 14:02 |
| Kilos | wonderful handling bikes | 14:02 |
| rusbus | maybe at those days standards :p | 14:03 |
| Kilos | even better than my bmw r100s | 14:03 |
| rusbus | that bwm | 14:03 |
| rusbus | had a boxster motor? | 14:03 |
| rusbus | that gives me shivers thinking about it | 14:03 |
| rusbus | I'd never want to ride it | 14:03 |
| Kilos | tose days we spoke of german quality and reliability and jap scrap | 14:03 |
| Kilos | wonderful bike | 14:04 |
| Kilos | very forgiving | 14:04 |
| rusbus | I'm pretty sure thats the same bike my uncle crashed and broke both arms, both legs and many ribs :p | 14:04 |
| Kilos | and warm feet in winter | 14:04 |
| Kilos | crashed how | 14:05 |
| Kilos | into something | 14:05 |
| Kilos | rusbus you here? | 14:12 |
| Kilos | http://bin.snyman.info/cxvrh | 14:12 |
| rusbus | sorry, was cooking dinner for my doggies | 14:33 |
| rusbus | with all our juicy left overs | 14:33 |
| rusbus | Kilos I think cause of the boxster engine he was going through an S type corner | 14:34 |
| rusbus | was fine on the right hander | 14:34 |
| rusbus | crashed on the left hander | 14:34 |
| rusbus | cause the pistons go side to side | 14:34 |
| rusbus | so he said he felt more pull the one side | 14:34 |
| rusbus | and bam | 14:34 |
| Kilos | na man | 14:34 |
| Kilos | he played wrong with the throttle | 14:35 |
| Kilos | but he learned | 14:35 |
| rusbus | well I never really understood it myself | 14:35 |
| rusbus | but that is his story | 14:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:35 |
| Kilos | did you go see my recipe | 14:35 |
| rusbus | pretty sure it has the same centrifugal force no matter the side you lean | 14:35 |
| rusbus | ya I got it open | 14:35 |
| rusbus | just watching something | 14:35 |
| Kilos | you can add chili or use a hotter rajah | 14:35 |
| rusbus | http://www.twitch.tv/orenaza | 14:35 |
| rusbus | ^ | 14:36 |
| rusbus | the winners of this game get to go compete in canada | 14:36 |
| rusbus | bvd the favorites are 1 round from losing | 14:36 |
| rusbus | also my cousin plays for bvd | 14:36 |
| Kilos | i dont watch moving things, they waste my data | 14:36 |
| rusbus | oh | 14:36 |
| rusbus | #cappedlife | 14:36 |
| rusbus | it's a competitive csgo game being played live | 14:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:36 |
| Kilos | cool | 14:36 |
| rusbus | oh there is still 1 more map to be played | 14:39 |
| rusbus | Kilos thanks for the recipe | 14:41 |
| rusbus | saved :D | 14:41 |
| Kilos | yw | 14:41 |
| inetpro | good afternoon | 15:28 |
| * inetpro shedding the stupid eskom load again | 15:29 | |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:37 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 15:37 |
| gremble | Has something happened with WhatsApp? A lot of strangers switching to Telegram suddenly | 16:13 |
| rusbus | telegram is great | 16:17 |
| rusbus | get on it! | 16:17 |
| gremble | I use it | 16:18 |
| rusbus | good man. | 16:18 |
| gremble | I like it because it has a very nice desktop application | 16:19 |
| rusbus | yes | 16:19 |
| rusbus | you can get it on any platform | 16:19 |
| rusbus | doesn't do the dumb proxy thing whatsapp web does | 16:19 |
| squish102 | is it the same as the other million ones? | 16:19 |
| rusbus | and it's opensource | 16:19 |
| rusbus | the protocol | 16:19 |
| squish102 | hangouts/skype etc | 16:19 |
| rusbus | no | 16:19 |
| gremble | Nah | 16:19 |
| gremble | lighter | 16:19 |
| rusbus | different in it's own way | 16:19 |
| gremble | I like it. Looks very nice | 16:19 |
| rusbus | prolly better encryption | 16:19 |
| rusbus | I love them stickers | 16:20 |
| rusbus | xD | 16:20 |
| rusbus | many lulz | 16:20 |
| gremble | Also has a nice encryption protocol | 16:20 |
| squish102 | ohhh, can i buy sticker packs? | 16:20 |
| inetpro | yes Telegram is really much better than whatsapp | 16:20 |
| rusbus | free sticker packs | 16:20 |
| gremble | They're free | 16:20 |
| gremble | I have no idea how they make money | 16:20 |
| gremble | :P | 16:20 |
| * inetpro is back on power again \o/ | 16:20 | |
| gremble | Nice | 16:20 |
| gremble | Also, hello inetpro | 16:20 |
| rusbus | gremble the one co-founder/owner of VK (russian FB) funds it himself | 16:21 |
| rusbus | they made MTProto (the protocol) for lulz | 16:21 |
| Kilos | yay inetpro | 16:21 |
| gremble | Unless it makes money, it will start doing stupid shit | 16:22 |
| inetpro | the fact that you need to have the mobile on the network while using Whatsapp on the browser/desktop is absolutely stupid | 16:22 |
| rusbus | yes ^ | 16:23 |
| rusbus | your phone is a proxy | 16:23 |
| rusbus | ;c | 16:23 |
| squish102 | never knew why whatsapp got so popular | 16:23 |
| squish102 | other than the privacy thing | 16:23 |
| gremble | Just one of those things | 16:26 |
| Kilos | ok so where do you register with telegram or will pidgin sort that side | 16:27 |
| Kilos | fly told me long ago to get it | 16:28 |
| gremble | You register with your phone I think | 16:28 |
| Kilos | ai! again' | 16:28 |
| squish102 | i think i have to try stick to one... line,oovoo,hangouts,sms,skype,whatsapp and facebook messenger | 16:29 |
| squish102 | i think that is all i have on my phone | 16:29 |
| gremble | Most of those are shit :P | 16:29 |
| squish102 | the one i use the most is probably hangouts because it does sms too | 16:30 |
| squish102 | and for some reason ppl still stick with sms | 16:30 |
| gremble | I only get smses from the church | 16:31 |
| solidity | All these IM networks and protocols. | 16:37 |
| solidity | Would be great if you could just use one, but not everyone is on any particular one. | 16:38 |
| Kilos | pidgin | 16:38 |
| gremble | pidgin is not a specific one | 16:39 |
| Kilos | pidgin can do them all | 16:39 |
| gremble | Pidgin cannot do xmpp anymore. Google is dropping support for it | 16:39 |
| Kilos | even telegram i see now | 16:39 |
| solidity | can't use pidgin on android it seems | 16:40 |
| Kilos | mine still works, just see it as hangouts now but still with xmpp | 16:40 |
| gremble | Pidgin is a computer client for protocols | 16:40 |
| Kilos | oh i thought you meant on pc | 16:40 |
| solidity | both pc and android | 16:40 |
| solidity | any network, any protocol, any platform | 16:41 |
| solidity | the world needs this | 16:41 |
| squish102 | anyone do js, or mongo? doind a beginners course and i am stuck with a stupid update | 16:43 |
| solidity | I know a bit of js | 16:43 |
| Kilos | what does this say? | 16:43 |
| Kilos | https://pidgin.im/pipermail/support/2012-May/025333.html | 16:43 |
| squish102 | so I do the following: var myobj = db.products.find({_id : ObjectId("507d95d5719dbef170f15c00")}) | 16:44 |
| squish102 | gives me an object called myobj... now i want to update a field called term_years | 16:45 |
| squish102 | can i not do myobj.term_years = 3 | 16:45 |
| solidity | I'm not familiar with mongo. | 16:46 |
| solidity | Did you change the object and then update the db with it? | 16:47 |
| solidity | Or does mongo automatically update when you change the object? | 16:47 |
| squish102 | have not tried to update db yet. just trying to assign a new value to the obj before i update db | 16:48 |
| solidity | dot notation should work yes | 16:48 |
| solidity | another way to do it is myobj['term_years'] = 3; | 16:48 |
| squish102 | ok will try tx | 16:49 |
| solidity | But as long as the property isn't set be immutable(which is the default) you can just assign a new value. | 16:49 |
| solidity | If you want to double check before you push to the db you use console.log(myobj) | 16:51 |
| solidity | or console.log(myobj.term_years) actually | 16:53 |
| solidity | kilos: that links shows an app called IM+, a multiprotocol app, but it only supports one of the networks I use. | 16:54 |
| Kilos | ok i tried | 16:55 |
| Kilos | i dont like them android things | 16:55 |
| Kilos | eish ice again tonight | 16:56 |
| gremble | double = zipwith ($) (cycle [id, (*2)]) | 16:57 |
| gremble | That is beautiful | 16:57 |
| gremble | D: | 16:57 |
| gremble | It doesn't work as expected :( | 17:00 |
| inetpro | and now? | 17:47 |
| * inetpro thought they would never stop talking | 17:47 | |
| Kilos | lol | 17:50 |
| Cryterion | and load shedding starts lol | 18:01 |
| MaNI | Cryterion, load shedding back? | 19:01 |
| MaNI | so much for the "no loadshedding this winter" claims ;) | 19:03 |
| Cryterion | seems like it, dead on schedule to, not a minute late | 19:12 |
| Cryterion | lappy is now a flatty, may be back later | 19:12 |
| smile | Hi :) | 20:09 |
| inetpro | wb smile | 20:10 |
| smile | Thank you | 20:11 |
| smile | :) | 20:11 |
| smile | How are you inetpro | 20:17 |
| inetpro | all good thanks and you? | 20:17 |
| smile | Except for money affairs and head aches pretty good | 20:18 |
| smile | :) | 20:18 |
| smile | I should find a student job :) | 20:20 |
| inetpro | take a cold shower, it will save money and is healthy | 20:21 |
| smile | Not eating will also save money | 20:31 |
| inetpro | hmm... not healthy | 20:33 |
| smile | Not paying bills will also save money | 20:34 |
| smile | :-P | 20:34 |
| inetpro | ai! | 20:35 |
| inetpro | you'll get more headaches | 20:35 |
| smile | Probably :-P | 20:36 |
| MaNI | until the debt collector comes for you, then it will cost you money :p | 20:36 |
| smile | I cant give them what I dont have | 20:36 |
| smile | ;-) | 20:36 |
| solidity | Give them your headache. | 20:36 |
| smile | Its not easily transferable :-P | 20:37 |
| solidity | But not impossible? | 20:38 |
| melodie | smile you can do it | 20:38 |
| solidity | Where there's a will there's a headbutt. | 20:38 |
| melodie | you explain your problems to them and ask them to help you solve | 20:38 |
| melodie | then they have the headache | 20:39 |
| melodie | solidity what is a headbutt ? | 20:39 |
| solidity | "A headbutt is a strike with the head, typically involving the use of robust parts of the cranium as the area of impact. Effective headbutting involves striking a sensitive area of an opponent using the forehead, such as the nose of an opponent." | 20:39 |
| melodie | aha ! | 20:40 |
| melodie | un coup de tête | 20:40 |
| melodie | got it | 20:40 |
| smile | Kopstoot :-P | 20:40 |
| melodie | cheers | 20:40 |
| melodie | :p | 20:40 |
| melodie | I learned a new smiley, it looks like something of the kind: | 20:41 |
| smile | I found a fancy feature on my irc app jaay | 20:41 |
| melodie | :-Pd-: | 20:41 |
| smile | Lol | 20:41 |
| melodie | guess what it is? | 20:41 |
| smile | Headbutt | 20:42 |
| smile | :-P | 20:42 |
| melodie | no wrong | 20:42 |
| melodie | it's a French kiss | 20:42 |
| smile | :-( | 20:42 |
| smile | I see! | 20:42 |
| melodie | :D | 20:43 |
| smile | Tongzoen | 20:43 |
| smile | :-D | 20:43 |
| melodie | Tongue zehen? | 20:43 |
| smile | No. Tongue kiss | 20:43 |
| smile | Zoen is kiss | 20:43 |
| melodie | if you say "tongue" in French, it's a flat shoe used on the beach | 20:44 |
| smile | Slipper in Dutch :-P | 20:46 |
| melodie | and slipper in English are the shoes for inside the house (chaussons) | 20:47 |
| melodie | ^_^ | 20:47 |
| smile | The word has two meanings/uses in Dutch. :) | 20:49 |
| smile | So that word matches both variants | 20:49 |
| smile | Melodie what technologies are you experienced with? :) | 20:51 |
| melodie | right now? | 20:52 |
| melodie | why this question? | 20:52 |
| smile | Yeah | 20:53 |
| smile | I want some bugs fixed :-P I can pay for it | 20:54 |
| melodie | I have rooted my smartphone, but didn't install a cyanogen rom because the android geeks haven't done one for my brand yet | 20:54 |
| melodie | smile didn't you say you lacked money? | 20:54 |
| melodie | but maybe this is the bug you want fixed? | 20:54 |
| smile | Yeah, for now. In two weeks my bank account will be recharged :) | 20:55 |
| melodie | how do you do that? \o/ | 20:55 |
| melodie | plain magic? XD | 20:55 |
| smile | Work hard. Spend all the money you had from before. Wait for the hard money to come in. | 20:56 |
| melodie | ok | 20:57 |
| melodie | what do you need help with? | 20:57 |
| smile | Wine bugs and LibreOffice bugs | 20:58 |
| smile | http://hugsmile.eu/tools/bug | 20:59 |
| melodie | wine has features, the bug is the need of using windows applications. | 21:00 |
| melodie | concerning LO, you need to talk to the lo devs, at #libreoffice some time | 21:01 |
| melodie | this is the best advice I can give for LO, that's a free advice | 21:01 |
| smile | Okay. So you say you are willing to port windirstat to Linux? :-P and notepad++ | 21:01 |
| melodie | concerning wine the problem is the same: | 21:01 |
| melodie | you need to see at winehq what they can tell you and how they can help | 21:01 |
| melodie | notepad++ is best replaced with Geany | 21:02 |
| melodie | what are the features of windirstat ? | 21:02 |
| MaNI | there is already e.g. filelight | 21:02 |
| MaNI | which is pretty much the same thing | 21:02 |
| MaNI | and a few others | 21:02 |
| solidity | http://alternativeto.net/software/windirstat/?platform=linux | 21:02 |
| melodie | MaNI +1, and Baobab also does a good job, and isn't big | 21:03 |
| melodie | filelight has many kde depends I fear? | 21:03 |
| MaNI | filelight is nicer than windirstat in my opinion, the circular display is more natural | 21:03 |
| melodie | good link solidity | 21:03 |
| solidity | alternativeto.net is a pretty handy website | 21:04 |
| melodie | MaNI I tell you Baobad isn't bad | 21:04 |
| melodie | but I like filelight a lot too | 21:04 |
| MaNI | kdirstat is a more direct clone - it's basically the same thing | 21:04 |
| MaNI | can't say I've tried boabab ;) | 21:04 |
| melodie | however I use "du -csh" or "du -cs" in console, and "df" or "df -h" | 21:04 |
| smile | Kdirstat isnt bad but windirstat on wine is better | 21:04 |
| melodie | smile ok, bugs for wine should be directed upstream to winehq, really the most relevant place | 21:05 |
| melodie | http://forum.winehq.org | 21:05 |
| smile | I know, but they are all reported.. :-P | 21:06 |
| smile | It just doesnt move | 21:06 |
| MaNI | boabab does look quite nice | 21:08 |
| smile | Not in my opinion :-P | 21:09 |
| smile | The file manager of wine needs a lot of work | 21:10 |
| smile | I would like to integrate wine more with my system, like using the native browser to open links | 21:11 |
| melodie | smile why not forget the non free software world and request features to the devs who do free software meant to work in open source distros ? | 21:11 |
| smile | I do, from time to time | 21:12 |
| MaNI | nothing wrong with wine improvements, though I suspect the wine developers aren't much interested in that side of things and more on getting as many apps as possible to run | 21:12 |
| smile | :) | 21:12 |
| smile | Wine is such a mess | 21:13 |
| smile | Performance isnt good either | 21:13 |
| smile | I want autowikibrowser to run on wine, but it doesnt :-( | 21:14 |
| MaNI | depends what you use it for I guess, I've had apps perform reasonably well in it | 21:14 |
| smile | Wine startup is slow | 21:15 |
| MaNI | a little | 21:17 |
| MaNI | just tried it here - seemed about 6-7 seconds | 21:17 |
| smile | Thats just too much | 21:17 |
| solidity | I just run windows. \o/ | 21:17 |
| smile | If you want only run a single app.. | 21:17 |
| smile | Its nice to run windows app inside linux | 21:18 |
| smile | :) | 21:18 |
| MaNI | I've seen java apps take longer | 21:18 |
| smile | Java is non existant | 21:18 |
| MaNI | booting a VM takes longer | 21:18 |
| smile | :-P | 21:18 |
| MaNI | it doesn't seem that terrible :p | 21:18 |
| melodie | solidity you don't, it is Windows which runs you | 21:18 |
| solidity | From what you are saying it doesn't sound as nice as running windows apps inside windows :P | 21:18 |
| smile | Lol | 21:18 |
| smile | :-P | 21:18 |
| solidity | melodie: how does windows run me? | 21:19 |
| smile | I would like a wine preloader to start wine on boot | 21:19 |
| melodie | solidity ask Windows | 21:20 |
| smile | That would decrease the waiting time for a single app | 21:20 |
| melodie | smile ok | 21:20 |
| melodie | sudo apt-get install prelink | 21:20 |
| melodie | then: | 21:20 |
| melodie | sudo -vmR /usr/bin/wine | 21:20 |
| melodie | once done you need to find the cron job it brings with it, and remove the x bit | 21:21 |
| smile | What?? | 21:21 |
| melodie | because if you don't | 21:21 |
| melodie | what ?? | 21:21 |
| melodie | install prelink and configure it as I explain you | 21:21 |
| smile | Whats vmR | 21:22 |
| melodie | options | 21:22 |
| smile | For | 21:22 |
| melodie | important options | 21:22 |
| melodie | man prelink will tell you | 21:22 |
| melodie | the docs on the web say do "-avmR" | 21:22 |
| melodie | but I don't do "-a" | 21:22 |
| smile | But you say it are sudo options | 21:22 |
| solidity | melodie: ok... | 21:23 |
| melodie | I prelink only a few options | 21:23 |
| melodie | i mean | 21:23 |
| melodie | I prelink a few heavy apps only, or it defeats the purpose | 21:23 |
| melodie | smile I forgot a command, sorry | 21:23 |
| melodie | you do: | 21:23 |
| melodie | sudo apt-get install prelink | 21:23 |
| melodie | then | 21:24 |
| melodie | sudo prelink -vmR /usr/bin/wine | 21:24 |
| melodie | make sure /usr/bin/wine is actually an executable elf, or it won't work | 21:24 |
| melodie | a binary | 21:24 |
| melodie | once done you tell me and I tell you how to configure it right after that | 21:24 |
| smile | Okay. Will do. I use arch with systemd, so I dont have cron | 21:25 |
| melodie | let me check that | 21:26 |
| melodie | smile why do I have cron.d in Arch ? /media/melodie/arch64/etc/cron.d | 21:27 |
| melodie | with 0hourly in it? | 21:27 |
| smile | Hmm | 21:27 |
| smile | I dont think I have it. Will need to check it | 21:28 |
| melodie | and $ ls -l cron.hourly/ | 21:29 |
| melodie | total 4 | 21:29 |
| melodie | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 392 nov. 24 2014 0anacron | 21:29 |
| melodie | also | 21:29 |
| melodie | smile do "ls -l /etc/cron*" | 21:29 |
| smile | If the prelink works, you are my hero :) | 21:29 |
| smile | I cant ssh from a nokia :-P | 21:29 |
| melodie | you have to be weary that prelink used to be automatically restarted every now and then (2 weeks) and would prelink all possible binaries: this is not good for what you need it to do | 21:30 |
| melodie | it has to be configured, and you need to check it's configuration file in /etc also | 21:30 |
| smile | Can i reboot my computer after I have installed it | 21:31 |
| melodie | no | 21:31 |
| melodie | you have to configure it | 21:31 |
| smile | Okay | 21:32 |
| melodie | see /etc/prelink.conf | 21:32 |
| smile | Thats all for now | 21:32 |
| smile | Good night | 21:32 |
| smile | :) | 21:32 |
| melodie | ok | 21:32 |
| melodie | gn smile | 21:32 |
| smile | Thanks | 21:33 |
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