[00:23] solidity in atom set tab equal to 4 spaces [00:23] sorted [00:27] you a night-owl? rusbus [00:30] I used to be [00:30] not anymore cause of work [00:33] night [06:21] morning nlsthzn and everyone else === rusbus is now known as Russ_|Away [07:23] o/ [08:09] morning all [08:09] hi captine hows things? [08:09] hi georgelappies [08:09] ok. finally finished a project that had me at the office till all hours of hte morning [08:10] so things should be getting to normal [08:10] i just spent an hour looking at comments on facebook, something i rarely do [08:11] looks like there will never be such a thing as normal anymore [08:11] i see the fly has learned to bake bread and make pizza too [08:12] made me hungry looking at it [08:12] being unique is far from normal [08:12] hi Cryterion [08:12] hiya [08:12] captine we have had a flood of new peeps here [08:12] awesome [08:13] Kilos, wanted to ask you about your take on the KDE dev and the community council. Struggling to get my head around what happened. [08:13] imo its all about um [08:13] sec lemme think [08:14] um? [08:14] when peeps differ of opinion and instead of being friendly about it getting agro with each other [08:15] um is when i try think [08:15] when it takes a while then its followed by er [08:15] lol [08:15] ok [08:16] they gotta sort it because i <3 kde [08:18] saw an interesting link in the lists for ubuntu users but dont wanna try on my kde [08:18] http://news.softpedia.com/news/You-Can-Now-Install-and-Test-Unity-8-and-Mir-in-Any-Supported-Ubuntu-OS-483206.shtml [08:19] unity 8 is he thing thats gonna get convergence going if i read things correctly [08:19] ai! sticky t [08:23] Kilos: they might rename Kubuntu and use Debian instead of Ubuntu. They'll keep KDE. [08:23] whew ty superfly [08:24] hi all [08:24] hi Kilos [08:25] hows georgelappies today [08:25] Kilos: you can always use Debian, which has KDE [08:25] lol, good thanks. Cold but good :) [08:26] It's a little warmer today in Cape Town [08:26] superfly i will, if things get bad, but im kinda loyal to ubuntu so long [08:26] superfly you must eat freshly baked bread when its hot [08:26] very lekker [08:26] hi chris_za [08:27] howdie [08:27] Kilos: I know, it just didn't work out that way. [08:27] Hi chris_za [08:27] and your pizza looks great [08:27] was just setting this up for when I get stuck lol [08:27] chris_za you been here before hey? [08:27] Kilos: that's mrs_fly's pizza [08:27] nope 1st time [08:27] tell her it looks yummy [08:28] chris_za welcome to ubuntu-za [08:28] Kilos: it was very yummy ;-) [08:28] ty :), I promise to behave lol [08:28] you are welcome to hang here 24/7 [08:28] if you need help chris_za just state your prob [08:29] so far my probs are unfixable lol [08:29] lol [08:29] switched to ubuntu finally and none of my damn prnt's will work :) [08:29] tell us a bit about yourself chris_za starting with how you found us [08:30] ai! [08:32] superfly do you use enigmail? [08:33] pro got me to go through all of that yesterday [08:34] now did i chase chris or is it net probs [08:34] sigh [08:38] Kilos: no, my email is Web based [08:38] ah [08:38] what a job all this security is [08:47] superfly, I am a little annoyed with this Kubuntu thing. Really hope to get the full picture to see where I lie.. I love Unity, and am really enjoying Gnome 3 on 15.04... but to be honest, never really found KDE to be my thing. Used it on Arch for about 3 months and enjoyed it, but for my use case, find Gnome and Unity to fit me... that said, still want to know whats happening, as I would hate Kubuntu to disappear. [08:49] PS, anyone seen the roundcube indiegogo... I hope companies like my ISP (Cybersmart) club in given their use of Roundcube... [08:50] hi rusbus [09:17] rusbus> solidity in atom set tab equal to 4 spaces [09:17] That is like sweeping dirt under the rug. [09:17] I will know those aren't real tabs but fake tabs. [09:25] atom text editor is pretty... but not ready yet. [09:25] Well, I was looking for a lightweight editor, but it turns out this thing is fairly large. [09:25] And slower than I expected. [09:26] but I haven't actually used it yet [09:28] Cryt-Survival: players [09:28] solidity: Yah, it's CSS + JS. Pretty heavy. [09:28] hmm, wrong room [09:28] solidity: Speaking of, lemme update my installed version + plugins... [09:29] I keep checking it every week or two. [09:31] Is it built with CSS + JS? [09:31] captine: Kubuntu is not really going to go anywhere. It may change name and morph somewhat, but JRiddell, ScottK and the others are not going anywhere. [09:32] solidity: Yeah, Atom is Chromium + NodeJS. [09:32] oh wow [09:32] that is interesting [09:34] Yah [09:34] Maybe I'll keep using it them simply because if that is the platform for it's "hackability" then I should be able to get started right away. [09:34] It even has a plugin for vim key bindings... [09:35] Yeah I saw. [09:37] It is more responsive today, guess it was just because it was the first time running yesterday and it hand to cache things and whatnot. [09:38] had* [09:43] solidity: True [09:43] It does stuff in the backend. Sometimes I see apm doing stuff in htop. [09:48] https://archive.org/stream/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto/Goamjuly2008_djvu.txt [09:49] This is very relevant to my interests. [09:50] solidity: The open access manifesto? [09:50] Ran into paywalls for science papers way too often. [09:50] It's by Aaron Swartz... who... killed himself. [09:50] I'm still reading, but I like what I'm reading. [09:53] Why? [09:53] inb4 illuminati assassination made to look like suicide [10:01] Can't believe I haven't heard of this guy before. [10:03] Yah, he founded Reddit and was influential in some other web standards, like RSS I think. [10:08] Swartz has been identified as a cofounder of Reddit, but the title is a source of controversy. With the merger of Infogami and Reddit, Swartz became a coowner and director of parent company Not A Bug, Inc., along with Reddit cofounders Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian.[220 [13:00] ssh'ing from windows i use mobaxterm... now that i have a mac, what is a good one? [13:03] solidity how is it sweeping dirt under a rug? [13:03] and atom is slow on startup [13:03] but fast otherwise [13:03] unless if you're opening a VERY large file and trying to ctrl+f through it, you won't think it's slow [13:20] Kilos [13:20] yes [13:20] I found tinned curry mix veggies [13:20] :D [13:20] golddish? [13:20] rhodes quality [13:21] still good [13:21] if you never mentioned it I would have been blind to it [13:21] but now I looked for curried veg and found em :D [13:21] i use all the others for adding to a curry i make but the golddish i eat straight out the tin [13:21] I wish they still sold tinned biryai - love that stuff [13:21] hmm I need to find golddish then [13:22] I'm currently chowing this straight from the tin :p [13:22] next time look for gold dish and tell me what you think [13:22] I wish this was spicier but still very good [13:22] they have the recipe spot on and not lots of water with i [13:22] it [13:22] ya this one is more watery than I'd like tbh [13:23] you will see the diffs when you find it [13:23] also to make it better you can make your own with it [13:23] where do you buy from? [13:23] I went to checkers [13:23] fry onions and garlic and he spices you want then add the curry [13:24] all of the supermarkets [13:24] hmm they didn't have golddish [13:24] or I didn't find it [13:24] golddish was the first we could get then the others followed suite [13:25] is it mixed veg [13:25] or something else? [13:25] mixed veg [13:25] I bought some curry powder [13:25] keen to make some curry mince [13:25] and make some roti's [13:25] :D [13:25] less water for starters than the others and richer flavour [13:26] rajah curry powder is the best [13:26] thats what I got :D [13:26] for peeps that cant take hot food the mild and spicy is best [13:26] if you want it hot you add chili [13:27] i have my recipe somewhere ill post it for you when i find it [13:27] oh and you in durbs [13:27] ye [13:27] you can get curry leaves there too [13:27] I like it hot [13:27] :D [13:28] ya there is actually a gorimas like 20m from where I work [13:28] so I can always get stuff easily [13:28] i have a curry leaf tree here i have to carry in every winter [13:28] you carry every winter? [13:28] thats something I need to grow myself [13:28] carry the tree inside or frost kills it [13:28] they make for good looking trees [13:29] oh so yours is potted [13:29] you can get them at nursaries there [13:29] yes large pot [13:29] makes quite a big bush/tree thing [13:30] I like to grow my stuff from seeds [13:30] leaves add taste to any stew without hot curry burn [13:30] I wanted to grow a lemon tree but bought one from a nursery and it hasn't grown in like 6 months that I've had it :( [13:30] these grow from roots sprouting [13:30] what insects chow your tree? [13:31] all around the curry tree new trees come up [13:31] none [13:31] wonder if it'll be the same here [13:31] curry leaf onion and garlic is about all that bugs dont attack [13:31] how do you wash/prepare your leaves? [13:32] yes man i brought my first one from our place in toti [13:32] i just pick them and throw then in [13:32] hehe [13:32] that sounds dangerous to me xD [13:32] #ubuntu-za-cooking [13:32] xD [13:33] #ubuntu-za-curry [13:33] ill get you a pic of the tree [13:33] cool :D [13:33] I had an... incident with a friends fathers curry tree [13:33] I don't think he ever forgave me :p [13:34] being the young, testosterone filled adrenaline junkie I was [13:34] I was on my friends BMX [13:34] with him on the back pegs [13:34] cycling as hard as I could down his steep road [13:34] took my hands off the handlebars to make my friend shit himself [13:34] which he did [13:35] took a corner like that [13:35] and into his driveway [13:35] everything was under control [13:35] but he had these big potholes in his driveway [13:35] I tried to go left around it and he freaked out and put his weight to the right [13:35] we smacked the pothole and went flying into the tree [13:35] and OWNED it [13:36] lol [13:36] just touching those leaves make me hungry [13:36] what a lekker smell [13:36] pavlovs dog :D [13:37] my sis must mail me the pic [13:37] my stupid fone can do pics [13:37] lol [13:39] i mean cant [13:39] I knew what you meant :) [13:39] pm me youe email addy [13:39] i make lotsa typos [13:39] sorry [13:40] my mother has conditioned me to read poorly constructed sentences :p [13:40] (not that yours are) [13:41] lol [13:42] i even have an advocado pear tree that also must come in in winter [13:42] i really miss toti [13:42] the old toti [13:43] I grew 5 avo trees from pips, my sisters bery young son killed the one [13:43] I need bigger pots for them now [13:43] they're about 2 years old [13:43] very* [13:43] oh, Kilos, your tree is quite small [13:44] my friends fathers free was a little taller than I am [13:44] quite a decent size [13:44] I feel hungry looking at a plant :p [13:45] see the thicks stalks [13:45] ya [13:45] i keep cutting it down so i can carry it in [13:46] they have them in the nursaries around warners winkel i think [13:47] nursaries [13:47] sjoe something looks wrong [13:47] there is a nursary in winkle? [13:47] on the road from warners to winkel there used to be a good one [13:49] I think I only know of two [13:49] illovo nursary [13:49] and then there is a halls mica nursery that is relatively new [13:49] just ask around [13:50] a lot changes in 20 years :p [13:50] they get where the new sprout comes up and take a bit of root on either side and pot it [13:50] yeah [13:50] when last were you here? [13:50] whew lemme work on that [13:51] i think been gone since 88 [13:51] 27 years [13:51] haha [13:51] I know this cause my sister was born in 88 and just turned 27 :p [13:52] lol [13:52] when last were you in UMHLANGA? [13:52] that place... [13:52] in like 10 years [13:52] went from sugar can to this massive beast [13:52] well back in 88 it wasn't even umhlanga [13:52] do you remember where the sharks board was? [13:53] not sure how long it's been where it is [13:53] yes [13:53] there durban north area [13:53] i met beula there [13:53] in all that sugar cane [13:53] beula? [13:53] beula davies i think her name is [13:53] was head of sharks board [13:53] who is that? xD [13:53] oh [13:53] well when I was a kid [13:53] you literally travelled on a long road [13:53] and got to the sharks board [13:53] yes [13:54] it was just sugar cane everywhere [13:54] now it's madness [13:54] thats near where I work now [13:54] at the sharks board? [13:54] down the road from it [13:54] ah [13:54] https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/Kwazulu-Natal+Sharks+Board/@-29.718266,31.0831562,14z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x1ef705f4cd231243:0xfeb6a6b80c5315c4?hl=en [13:54] just zoom out on that map [13:55] 10 years ago it was ONLY the sharks board there [13:55] ok maybe 15 years [13:55] go into street view [13:55] and look at how built up it is [13:56] the sharks board could sell their land for big moola now [13:56] wow [13:56] those images are 2 years old [13:57] whatever you see under construction there has been finished [13:57] and more stuff next to it [13:57] when i left, if you travelled up to pmb there was nothing behind about 3ks past elgro [13:57] elgro? [13:57] all sugar cane too [13:57] why would you go past elgro [13:58] elgro flats on top of the hill [13:58] I know elgro [13:58] but why go past elgro to go to PMB? [13:58] o/ [13:58] o/ [13:58] no man i mean up the pmb road [13:58] there wasnt much other side of elgro [13:59] 'the pmb road' == ? [13:59] like from where you turned left to illovo sugarestates there was nothing [13:59] oh the uuhh [13:59] R206 or w/e it's called [13:59] the pmb road from winkel up [13:59] you'd go that route to PMB? xD [14:00] yes [14:00] I don't think I've ever done that :p [14:00] I've taken that road to other places [14:00] was a lekker road for a fast bike [14:00] but never to pmb [14:00] ya I've taken my bike along there [14:01] many cane trucks though to make things interesting at 200 kph [14:01] ya and dropped sugar cane... [14:01] lol [14:01] i loved speed [14:01] same [14:02] o/ [14:02] my moto guzzi le mans i think it was loved that road [14:02] it has been a VERY long time since I've seen a moto guzzi [14:02] wonderful handling bikes [14:03] maybe at those days standards :p [14:03] even better than my bmw r100s [14:03] that bwm [14:03] had a boxster motor? [14:03] that gives me shivers thinking about it [14:03] I'd never want to ride it [14:03] tose days we spoke of german quality and reliability and jap scrap [14:04] wonderful bike [14:04] very forgiving [14:04] I'm pretty sure thats the same bike my uncle crashed and broke both arms, both legs and many ribs :p [14:04] and warm feet in winter [14:05] crashed how [14:05] into something [14:12] rusbus you here? [14:12] http://bin.snyman.info/cxvrh [14:33] sorry, was cooking dinner for my doggies [14:33] with all our juicy left overs [14:34] Kilos I think cause of the boxster engine he was going through an S type corner [14:34] was fine on the right hander [14:34] crashed on the left hander [14:34] cause the pistons go side to side [14:34] so he said he felt more pull the one side [14:34] and bam [14:34] na man [14:35] he played wrong with the throttle [14:35] but he learned [14:35] well I never really understood it myself [14:35] but that is his story [14:35] lol [14:35] did you go see my recipe [14:35] pretty sure it has the same centrifugal force no matter the side you lean [14:35] ya I got it open [14:35] just watching something [14:35] you can add chili or use a hotter rajah [14:35] http://www.twitch.tv/orenaza [14:36] ^ [14:36] the winners of this game get to go compete in canada [14:36] bvd the favorites are 1 round from losing [14:36] also my cousin plays for bvd [14:36] i dont watch moving things, they waste my data [14:36] oh [14:36] #cappedlife [14:36] it's a competitive csgo game being played live [14:36] lol [14:36] cool [14:39] oh there is still 1 more map to be played [14:41] Kilos thanks for the recipe [14:41] saved :D [14:41] yw [15:28] good afternoon [15:29] * inetpro shedding the stupid eskom load again [15:37] ai! [15:37] hi theblazehen [16:13] Has something happened with WhatsApp? A lot of strangers switching to Telegram suddenly [16:17] telegram is great [16:17] get on it! [16:18] I use it [16:18] good man. [16:19] I like it because it has a very nice desktop application [16:19] yes [16:19] you can get it on any platform [16:19] doesn't do the dumb proxy thing whatsapp web does [16:19] is it the same as the other million ones? [16:19] and it's opensource [16:19] the protocol [16:19] hangouts/skype etc [16:19] no [16:19] Nah [16:19] lighter [16:19] different in it's own way [16:19] I like it. Looks very nice [16:19] prolly better encryption [16:20] I love them stickers [16:20] xD [16:20] many lulz [16:20] Also has a nice encryption protocol [16:20]