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DrewFmStateFarmWhy would a pulseaudio output stream show as having no output on pavucontrol and yet I can hear it from that device? This is preventing me from using a monitor for that device when recording.01:37
* eikon81g is away: I'm busy01:43
xubuntu36wI downloaded an image viewer that I do not like, so I uninstalled it. However, an add-on called "ImageMagick" remains in my applications menu01:53
xubuntu36wHow can I uninstall the application entirely. I've tried rebooting, yet the application remains. It won't run or anything when I click on it, but the icon is still listed in my apps menu.01:54
Unit193I'd try  sudo apt-get autoremove --purge  or you can manually uninstall it as well.01:54
xubuntu36wthanks, I'll try that now01:55
xubuntu36wWhat does the "--purge" portion of the commmand do?01:56
xubuntu36wSorry I know basically nothing about the terminal01:57
Unit193Well yes, you can drop that.  I usually use it.  It means to completely remove the application as well as config files, normally it'll just remove the application.01:57
xubuntu36wThanks, if I were to use the purge command regularly when autoremoving, would it be a risky?01:58
xubuntu36wIn other words, can it affect system files / functionality of other software?01:58
Unit193Just the applications you are removing, of course you can always purge later too.01:59
Unit193!purge01:59
ubottuTo purge all removed but not yet purged packages, use the following command: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P01:59
xubuntu36wGreat, thanks02:00
xubuntu36wWorked.02:01
xubuntu36wTo clarify, that last command you suggested will automatically avoid purging packages that have already been purged?02:02
Unit193It'll purge all packages that are removed, but not yet purged.02:02
xubuntu36wGot it02:02
xubuntu36wWhat I like about linux is that it seems to be so much cleaner than windows. I hated dealing with the windows registry and left over program files/folders after doing uninstalls.02:04
Unit193I'm a tad obsessive, so try to keep it fairly clean in terms of extra files.02:05
xubuntu36wDo you feel that, in general, Xubuntu can be used exclusively by someone who has no knowledge of the terminal? I've just switched from windows and am not familar with Linux in a technical sense - however I am slowly learning02:08
holsteinxubuntu36w: yes02:08
Unit193Well, I gave you the terminal command as it is easier for me to say "Hey, paste this!" then to say "Click here, then here, and then here."  Also, I don't really know GUI package management as well as terminal. :P02:09
Unit193So, I'd say you can, sure.02:09
xubuntu36wDo I need to worry about altering system files if I stay away from the terminal completely? I will not utilize the terminal unless I know completely what I'm doing02:12
xubuntu36w*altering system files / harming the computer by accident02:12
holsteinxubuntu36w: i would say, worry about what you like.. but, go ahead and plan for that hard drive failing, since, they all do.. in that case, you will be able to do what you need, and revert to a backup, etc02:12
holsteinplan for harm to be done, and, you'll be fine..02:13
xubuntu36wAlright, thanks unit193 and holstein for the help02:14
holsteinif you keep up with updates, and run stock 14.04, you can run that for years.. til 2017.. and likely never have any issues.. assuming the hardware doesnt break02:14
Unit193Sure.02:14
xubuntu36wI'm running 15.0402:14
holstein15.04 is fine.. 14.04 is just supported longer..02:14
holstein!lts02:14
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Xubuntu will be supported for 3 years. The current LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)02:14
holsteinif you want more of a "set it and forget it" kind of thing..02:15
xubuntu36wAre the LTS releases more stable?02:15
holsteinxubuntu36w: no.. they are supported longer02:15
xubuntu36wOk02:15
holsteinxubuntu36w: 5 years vs 18 months..02:15
holstein3 years for xubuntu *02:15
xubuntu36wIs anti-virus software needed with Linux?02:16
xubuntu36wI would imagine that viruses are not very common considering the market share of linux02:16
holsteinxubuntu36w: you'll want to make security decisions for yourself.. but, let me ask you.. how often do you hear of folks on windows, running av software, who *do* still get a virus?02:17
holsteinin that case, does *anyone* need to run AV software to be 'safe' from viruses? likely not02:17
xubuntu36wI see02:17
holsteineducation, and best practices are likely a much better course02:17
holstein!av02:17
ubottuAntivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus02:17
holstein*all* computers can be compromised, if they execute code.. but, linux is setup differently... user accounts are different02:18
holsteinits arguably safer.. but, anyone can mis-use any OS.. to say linux is safer is to forget about the human element..02:18
holsteinout of the box, i dont think anyone would argue, a stock linux distro is much, *much* safer than a stock windows install02:19
holsteinthough, windows seems to be getting better about managing things similarly02:20
holsteinadmin accounts.. user permissions being limited.. etc..02:20
xubuntu36wDuring the xubuntu install, I chose not to encrypt my system. I might want to later though, can I do it with default software or is a third party app needed?02:20
holsteinxubuntu36w: for the most part, since linux/ubuntu/xubuntu is competely open, the answer is typically always "yes"..02:21
holsteinthough, it may not be simple,or familiar, the process02:21
holsteinyou can always encrypt just one thing.. a directory, or whatever02:22
holsteinencryptions has a performance hit..02:22
xubuntu36wOk, thanks again02:24
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onrDoes it make sense to encrypt swap partition?15:08
onrI don't like to enter FDE passphrase twice on logon.15:08
drcIt depends on your level of paranoia...high=yes, low=no.15:10
onrHigh, of course. But can't you just type the passphrase only once? :(15:11
drcno idea, I'm not that paranoid. :)15:12
onrCan't *they* access your home directory if you leave the swap partition unencrypted?15:14
drcYou'd probably have a better chance of getting these sorts of answers on a security-focused channel.15:15
onrI like #xubuntu people more.15:16
drcso, what you want to do is talk, not get answers?15:16
onrI didn't say that.15:17
drcThere's -offtopic for that15:17
onrI did not say that.15:17
drctime for /ignore15:18
onrGoodbye.15:18
onrI've found a solution:15:35
onrhttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6406107#post640610715:35
ibouvousaimeHello How can I remaster a xubuntu install ?20:05
ibouvousaimeI mean removing all files and programms and going back to the default20:05
ObrienDavere-install and overwrite20:06
ObrienDavei should say, re-install from live ISO20:07
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dwpmhello21:12
ObrienDaveAppropriate time-of-day greetings & Welcome21:15
dwpm:)21:16
dwpmI installed xubuntu 14.04 on my netbook. I intend to keep it running 24x7. I've made the appropriate changes to the power settings (gui) so that it does nothing when switched off however, it kept going into standby. in /etc/systemd/logind.conf i've set HandleLidSwitch=ignore and in /etc/UPower/UPower.conf. am i missing anything else?21:18
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brainwash_dwpm: it does not look like you are missing anything21:25
brainwash_dwpm: should it keep running 24x7 with a closed lid?21:31
dwpmbrainwash_ yes it needs to remain on when lid is closed21:31
ObrienDavethat might be a BIOS setting you need to change21:32
dwpmthe settings i made seem to be working XD22:10
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Lopulus.ordenes22:34
cq-auxI'm a bit stuck..23:29
cq-auxhow do I boot up to a black screen with login:23:30
cq-auxinstead of straight to full gui desktop?23:30
cq-aux!gui23:36
ubottuThe graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)23:36
cq-auxbrb23:39
Roger__Morning all :)23:40
Roger__Q: found my old Acer Aspire One D255, and having verified it still works (minor miracle, ben in storage for a couple of years), ran it up. It's currently runing Win7. Obviously, I'm replacing that soonest, so tested a live version of Xubuntu (14.04.2 LTS) this evening. One odd thing: The keyboard on the netbook won;t show the "|" character. Obviously, this is a mapping issue, but despite trying the default acer config, and two othe23:43
Roger__work. Wonder if anyone else has had a similar problem, and if so, how they cured it? (2/2)23:43
xubuntu29wIn the desktop window of the settings manager, the folder for default wallpapers is no longer an option to choose in the folder drop down menu23:49
xubuntu29wSo, I do not know how to access the default xubuntu wallpaper. I'm not sure why the folder is no longer there23:50
xubuntu29wdoes anyone know a way for me to locate this folder and have it appear within the dropdown menu as it normally should?23:53
cq-auxyeah so I want to be done with the xfce desktop for a while ...see how much battery life I can squeeze out of this laptop23:56

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