| === 5EXABD84D is now known as infinity | ||
| larsu | good morning! | 05:14 |
|---|---|---|
| pitti | Good morning | 05:39 |
| larsu | good morning pitti! | 05:39 |
| pitti | hey larsu, wie gehts? | 05:39 |
| larsu | pitti: gut danke! Superwetter hier :) Und dir? | 05:40 |
| pitti | larsu: hier auch, fantastisches 4-Tage-Wochenende | 05:41 |
| pitti | larsu: mein erster Drachenflug! war fantastisch! | 05:41 |
| larsu | pitti: toll! | 05:42 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:03 |
| larsu | bonjour didrocks! | 06:05 |
| didrocks | hey larsu | 06:05 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks, ça va ? | 06:26 |
| didrocks | pitti: ça va, et toi ? | 06:27 |
| pitti | didrocks: ça va bien, merci ! j'ai eu un week-end magnifique ! | 06:28 |
| pitti | didrocks: my first-ever kite flight, it finally happened :) | 06:28 |
| didrocks | kite flight? | 06:30 |
| pitti | didrocks: http://piware.de/fotos/Drachenflug-Jun15/ | 06:31 |
| didrocks | ah nice, you weren't scared before jumping? :) | 06:33 |
| pitti | didrocks: no, not really -- the guy has done this for 18 years :) | 06:34 |
| pitti | didrocks: excited yes, but not scared at all | 06:34 |
| didrocks | ;) | 06:35 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:35 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks pitti | 06:35 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 06:35 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! | 06:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, nice view from the kite ;-) | 06:39 |
| pitti | seb128: absolutely! it feels just amazing | 06:39 |
| pitti | the landing with a tandem kite is a bit funny/rough, you basically just slam into the field on your belly and knees | 06:39 |
| pitti | on a single-person kite you land/run on your feet, much more elegant :) | 06:40 |
| seb128 | hehe | 06:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, touch people were looking for you on friday, they needed a vivid overlay langpack export I think | 07:34 |
| pitti | seb128: GunnarHj wrote me, he plans to do a langpack update soon | 07:36 |
| pitti | * Building ubuntu-docs during next week | 07:36 |
| pitti | * Full export and moving to -proposed around June 15-17 | 07:36 |
| pitti | * Testing June 18 - June 24 | 07:36 |
| pitti | * Moving to -updates around June 25 | 07:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, I'm speaking about touch | 07:36 |
| seb128 | they want one for OTA4 which is supposed to be rolled out to customers this week | 07:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1460144 | 07:37 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1460144 in Canonical System Image "New swipe actions tutorial needs translations" [High,In progress] | 07:37 |
| seb128 | though seems like German still didn't get translations on e.g https://translations.launchpad.net/dialer-app/trunk/+pots/dialer-app/de/+translate?show=untranslated | 07:39 |
| pitti | ah, we still do daily RTM langpack uploads | 07:39 |
| pitti | so that's not what they want any more, then? can/should we stop the RTM ones? | 07:39 |
| seb128 | rtm? | 07:40 |
| seb128 | right, I think that's superseeded by the vivid-overlay ppa | 07:40 |
| seb128 | to check with sil2100 & Mirv I guess | 07:40 |
| pitti | hm, somehow I remember setting up langpacks for the overlay, it's been a few weeks | 07:40 |
| pitti | https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay | 07:40 |
| pitti | last update from June 1 | 07:40 |
| pitti | we only do weekly, as that's what LP gives us | 07:40 |
| sil2100 | pitti: yeah, we don't need RTM updates anymore, the overlay ones are sufficient | 07:41 |
| seb128 | k | 07:41 |
| pitti | (see https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+language-packs) | 07:41 |
| pitti | sil2100: oh cool, then I'll kill that job | 07:41 |
| sil2100 | Thanks :) | 07:41 |
| pitti | sil2100: do we still use RTM for anything? i. e. ddebs and the like? | 07:41 |
| seb128 | sil2100, somebody might want to email the translators about https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1460144 | 07:41 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1460144 in Canonical System Image "New swipe actions tutorial needs translations" [High,In progress] | 07:41 |
| seb128 | sil2100, seems like e.g the german translators didn't pick those up, https://translations.launchpad.net/dialer-app/trunk/+pots/dialer-app/de/+translate?show=untranslated | 07:42 |
| sil2100 | pitti: I'm not aware of any current use-cases, it's just for legacy stuff and bug-tracking currently | 07:43 |
| sil2100 | seb128: do you know if only german is affected? | 07:45 |
| seb128 | sil2100, you mean? I'm sure other teams didn't pick up the new strings yet | 07:45 |
| seb128 | but on the bug pat listed german and spanish as needed | 07:46 |
| seb128 | vrruiz did the spanish translations | 07:46 |
| seb128 | I know the french team did pick those up | 07:46 |
| seb128 | so I guess we would need a least a german translator | 07:46 |
| seb128 | maybe pitti or mvo can help there | 07:46 |
| sil2100 | Yeah, I think this is important as we at least try to have the spanish and german translations correct and usable, we'll try to poke someone for this too | 07:47 |
| seb128 | in fact spanish still needs to be validated | 07:47 |
| seb128 | https://translations.launchpad.net/dialer-app/trunk/+pots/dialer-app/es/+translate?show=untranslated | 07:47 |
| pitti | sil2100, seb128: doing the German ones | 07:50 |
| pitti | meh, folks really need to add translator comments | 07:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 07:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, the "Got it!" is a button that let you dismiss the tutorial | 07:50 |
| seb128 | if that's what you are refering to | 07:51 |
| seb128 | like "understood" | 07:51 |
| pitti | with a highly context sensitive language like English it's impossible to do good translations from just one or two short words | 07:51 |
| seb128 | it confused the french translators, had to change it | 07:51 |
| pitti | "Mobile" | 07:51 |
| seb128 | ah | 07:51 |
| pitti | as in, "a mobile phone"? a mobile data connection? opposite of "fixed"? | 07:51 |
| seb128 | let me check | 07:51 |
| pitti | the first and second are very different words | 07:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, the tutorial has | 07:53 |
| seb128 | <number> | 07:53 |
| seb128 | "mobile" | 07:53 |
| seb128 | so it's to indicate the number is the one from a mobile phone | 07:53 |
| seb128 | like in the contacts list you have land line/mobile/home/work/... | 07:53 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, thanks | 07:56 |
| pitti | ok, done | 07:57 |
| mitya57 | attente: in https://github.com/lenky0401/fcitx-qimpanel, all addMenu() calls are in #ifdef IS_QT_4..#endif blocks | 07:57 |
| mitya57 | attente: Probably upstream tried to work-around the Qt bug, and now they can remove the work-around and use addMenu() again | 07:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, can you validate the one on https://translations.launchpad.net/messaging-app/trunk/+pots/messaging-app/de/+translate?show=untranslated as well? | 07:58 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:59 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 07:59 |
| pitti | seb128: heh, that's my own translation from a minute ago :) I'm not proud of that (it sounds a bit unwieldy), but I can't think of a better one | 08:00 |
| pitti | seb128: done | 08:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 08:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, translations are shared between components so it suggested it there | 08:01 |
| Laney | ahoy | 08:04 |
| willcooke | morning Laney, nice day for it | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, wie gehts? how was your w.e? | 08:04 |
| Laney | willcooke: yeah, at last | 08:05 |
| * Laney actually used sun cream at the weekend | 08:05 | |
| willcooke | \o/ | 08:05 |
| Laney | seb128: good! we had our space 4 cycling ride | 08:06 |
| * willcooke didnt and is now a bit red | 08:06 | |
| Laney | that was first dreamt up in our sprint room in london | 08:06 |
| Laney | we got on the news | 08:06 |
| seb128 | what is that? | 08:06 |
| didrocks | good morning willcooke | 08:06 |
| seb128 | did you bike to the moon and back? ;-) | 08:07 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:07 |
| seb128 | E.T style? | 08:07 |
| * Laney uploads it | 08:07 | |
| Laney | probably should have compressed this somehow | 08:09 |
| === davmor2_hols is now known as davmor2 | ||
| Laney | http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/pob.mov | 08:13 |
| Laney | firefox can't play that for me but totem can | 08:13 |
| Laney | and now ... u-s-d is crashing on my desktop :( | 08:13 |
| Laney | assert failure in gsd_rr_something | 08:13 |
| seb128 | Laney, you didn't even speak! | 08:22 |
| seb128 | cool to see things happening | 08:22 |
| seb128 | I wonder what % of daily trips are made with bikes e.g in .nl | 08:22 |
| seb128 | not sure where to place the 10% goal mentioned there in perspective to what is currently done in the u.k and other places | 08:23 |
| Laney | I think it's about 30% for all trips in nl | 08:24 |
| Laney | higher if you measure specific things like travelling to school or commuting | 08:24 |
| Laney | nottingham is like 2.4% | 08:25 |
| seb128 | that's quite a difference... | 08:25 |
| Laney | the power of design | 08:25 |
| seb128 | yeah, unsure how much there is also mindset playing there | 08:29 |
| seb128 | it's like that if you made a town with perfect infrastructure for bike in .fr or .uk you would still guess twice less people biking that they have in .nl | 08:30 |
| Laney | maybe so, they have 40 years of this stuff already | 08:31 |
| Laney | a worry is that if we don't get instant results then this small piece of momentum we have currently will evaporate | 08:32 |
| larsu | Laney: just two days ago I was thinking that we need more bike lanes now | 08:33 |
| larsu | the ones we have are so successful that they're becoming overcrowded | 08:33 |
| * seb128 wishes for less bikes here | 08:33 | |
| larsu | might be only during the sunny days though... (of which we don't have that many) | 08:33 |
| seb128 | (sorry guys) | 08:33 |
| larsu | seb128: pah! | 08:33 |
| seb128 | it's quite more stressing to be pedestrian here | 08:34 |
| Laney | hey larsu | 08:34 |
| larsu | hm? Same as with cars, no? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | no, cars are on roads | 08:34 |
| larsu | or is everyone riding their bike on the sidewalk? | 08:34 |
| larsu | hi Laney | 08:34 |
| seb128 | not taking side walks and going in small alleys where you don't expect them | 08:34 |
| Laney | I was reading this blog by a bike guy who moved from uk to berlin | 08:34 |
| Laney | https://departmentfortransport.wordpress.com/tag/berlin/ | 08:34 |
| seb128 | no, people are just doing crazy stuff with bike | 08:34 |
| larsu | seb128: ugh. Clearly bikes should be on the road or bike paths | 08:34 |
| seb128 | and drive fast in narrow stpace | 08:34 |
| seb128 | they act like they owned the street and are often dangerous to pedestrians | 08:35 |
| seb128 | at least with cars you know where to expect them | 08:35 |
| darkxst | seb128, or cars/trucks could respect bikes? Ive been run off the road by taxi's, doored' by idiots and had trucks buzz so close they were mere millimeters from hitting me | 08:36 |
| larsu | Laney: that street is shitty for bikes, there are better ones parallel to it | 08:36 |
| darkxst | hey all btw | 08:36 |
| larsu | hi darkxst | 08:36 |
| seb128 | darkxst, no doubt cars/trucks should respect bikes | 08:37 |
| larsu | seb128: clearly this is just a problem of policy and enforcment | 08:37 |
| seb128 | darkxst, but bikes should also respect pedestrians | 08:37 |
| darkxst | seb128, they don't in Melbourne! | 08:37 |
| seb128 | bikers have the same issues than car drivers | 08:37 |
| seb128 | people seem to never car about those who are slower/less heavy than them | 08:37 |
| seb128 | darkxst, I don't say they do | 08:38 |
| darkxst | seb128, probably a few bad eggs, most cyclists do care | 08:38 |
| Laney | yeah conflict is a big issue | 08:38 |
| larsu | seb128: I ride a bike and I do care :P | 08:38 |
| Laney | they often try to proposed shared cycle and foot paths here as a cheap/easy solution | 08:38 |
| seb128 | larsu, I drive a car and I do care about bikes and pedestrians | 08:38 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:38 |
| larsu | seb128: I never said you didn't :) | 08:38 |
| seb128 | larsu, right, just playing along your reply :p | 08:39 |
| darkxst | I come across walkers and horse riders all the time, and when we do, slow down and have a chat | 08:39 |
| larsu | seb128: in general, drivers are pretty good. The problem is that the bad ones are *really* bad | 08:39 |
| seb128 | yeah, same for bikers | 08:39 |
| larsu | seb128: like going 100 on a 50 street, like I saw yesterday. With lots of pedestrians next to a park... | 08:39 |
| seb128 | right, those people are crazy | 08:39 |
| larsu | where you should be going 30 just to be careful | 08:40 |
| darkxst | Laney, anymore thoughts on what to do with the extra shell extensions? demote to proposed until debian update them? | 08:40 |
| Laney | darkxst: if you want, that's your stuff | 08:40 |
| darkxst | Laney, that would be my call, I don't think they belong in the archive really | 08:41 |
| Laney | WTF is going on with usd :( | 08:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: you don't want to be able to run docker on desktop next? | 08:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no! | 08:43 |
| seb128 | who cares about docker :p | 08:43 |
| didrocks | ok… that's still a valid use case I guess | 08:43 |
| didrocks | but your call | 08:43 |
| seb128 | yeah, as are other programs | 08:43 |
| seb128 | but Laney suggested we don't need that hack and mvo agreed | 08:43 |
| Laney | I guess they can keep that on core, it's clearly not going to be the long term solution | 08:44 |
| didrocks | well, as long as we don't have a way to add system users to snappy… | 08:44 |
| seb128 | they are working on a solution to make group adding work with libnss-extrasusers | 08:44 |
| didrocks | I just think that some people will install the snappy docker framework on ubuntu personal | 08:44 |
| didrocks | and will surprised it doesn't work | 08:44 |
| seb128 | yeah, could be | 08:44 |
| seb128 | well, we can do tweaks once the image is working | 08:45 |
| seb128 | maybe libnss-extrasusers is going to be working before the personal image :p | 08:45 |
| didrocks | let's see ;) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | larsu, your scrollbar work removes the bg from progressbars widgets it seems | 08:46 |
| seb128 | they look like a border only rather than a bar since friday, I reverted to the archive version and that fixed it | 08:47 |
| larsu | seb128: hm that might well be, I saw some problems with that but thought I removed them | 08:47 |
| larsu | seb128: do you see that problem in gtk3-image-factory as well? | 08:47 |
| seb128 | yes | 08:47 |
| seb128 | I first noticed in update-manager | 08:47 |
| larsu | ok, I'll have a look | 08:47 |
| seb128 | confirmed with the factory | 08:47 |
| seb128 | thanks | 08:47 |
| larsu | after I get this device running :/ | 08:47 |
| seb128 | what's the issue? are you blocked on something? | 08:48 |
| larsu | indeed, the gradient is missing | 08:48 |
| larsu | seb128: just trying to debug why it doesn't boot with systemd | 08:49 |
| larsu | seb128: orange line + big time + small date is the lock screen? | 08:50 |
| larsu | it seems frozen five minutes ago | 08:50 |
| larsu | (I booted 2 minutes ago) | 08:50 |
| larsu | backlight still changes when touching and I can turn the screen on and off | 08:51 |
| seb128 | larsu, http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Ubuntu_Phone-welcom-screen.jpg | 08:51 |
| seb128 | that's the lock screen | 08:51 |
| larsu | no that's not it | 08:51 |
| larsu | it's only the date part | 08:51 |
| larsu | no flower and no indicators | 08:52 |
| seb128 | weird | 08:52 |
| seb128 | it's like most services didn't start then I guess | 08:52 |
| larsu | also no adb shell... | 08:52 |
| seb128 | right | 08:52 |
| larsu | which is only enabled after unlocking | 08:52 |
| seb128 | since you are locked, no shell | 08:52 |
| larsu | which is very annoying | 08:52 |
| larsu | can I change that somehow? | 08:52 |
| seb128 | larsu, install a working image, install openssh-server, then change to systemd | 08:53 |
| seb128 | then enjoy the joy of being able to ssh while locked | 08:53 |
| larsu | if the network's up before the failure I'm seeing... | 08:53 |
| larsu | ah okay, this too was a systemd isseu | 08:53 |
| larsu | turns out fastboot -c *does* work | 08:53 |
| seb128 | larsu, you can also "sudo touch /userdata/.adb_onlock" | 08:55 |
| seb128 | to allow adb while locked | 08:55 |
| larsu | thanks! | 08:55 |
| seb128 | yw | 08:56 |
| seb128 | Laney, can you retry the desktop-next iso build? ;-) | 09:05 |
| Laney | umm, nope, looks like I can't ssh in | 09:08 |
| Laney | I got a new ssh key with the laptop, let me ping IS | 09:08 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:09 |
| ochosi | Laney: woot, yours already arrived? | 09:10 |
| ochosi | mine was finally shipped off today, so i suppose it'll be here before the official ETA of june 23rd | 09:11 |
| Laney | ochosi: ya, it arrived on friday | 09:11 |
| ochosi | nice, so even earlier than the corrected projected date | 09:12 |
| Laney | hidpi and browsers is pretty :( | 09:12 |
| ochosi | hah, you got the QHD+ version? | 09:12 |
| Laney | indeed | 09:12 |
| ochosi | yeah, the web isn't really ready | 09:12 |
| ochosi | so i got the FHD version (also for battery life's sake) | 09:12 |
| Laney | unity and gtk's scaling both work well | 09:12 |
| ochosi | cool, i'll have to test that | 09:12 |
| Laney | firefox doesn't even have an option to set a default zoom level | 09:12 |
| Laney | you need an extension for that | 09:12 |
| ochosi | that's meh | 09:13 |
| ochosi | what about midori? | 09:13 |
| Laney | don't know | 09:13 |
| Laney | epiphany seemed quite good though | 09:13 |
| * didrocks *cough* chromium *cough* | 09:13 | |
| Laney | (also with gestures) | 09:13 |
| Laney | ah chromium has better sizing but for some reason its UI is huge | 09:13 |
| ochosi | mhm, that would've been my next question (epiphany) | 09:13 |
| * Laney has a note to ping chad about that :) | 09:13 | |
| Laney | http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/omg.png | 09:14 |
| didrocks | waow | 09:15 |
| didrocks | did you compare this with Chrome? | 09:15 |
| Laney | nein | 09:15 |
| ochosi | wow, that's really pretty... sad | 09:15 |
| Laney | I think it only very recently got hidpi stuff at all | 09:16 |
| Laney | at least in Chromium | 09:16 |
| ochosi | also, odd how the locationbar looks ok | 09:16 |
| didrocks | chrome 43 | 09:16 |
| ochosi | seems to be only a font-size problem | 09:16 |
| ochosi | Laney: and the touchpad works fine? | 09:16 |
| Laney | yes although I want to turn off the right click area completely | 09:17 |
| Laney | and just use two finger tap for that | 09:17 |
| Laney | haven't done it yet though | 09:17 |
| Laney | fn and ctrl are swapped compared to the macbook I had before (for 5 years) | 09:18 |
| Laney | that's a bit annoying :) | 09:18 |
| didrocks | yeah, needing to get some used to for such changes | 09:18 |
| seb128 | Laney, let me know if you get any reply from IS or if I should try to nag Colin or somebody else to retry the build | 09:19 |
| Laney | seb128: done already, just need to set up the host keys and stuff | 09:20 |
| seb128 | great, thanks | 09:20 |
| Laney | ok, it is running | 09:20 |
| Laney | now seriously, I have no idea what in the hell is going on with my desktop and usd | 09:21 |
| * Laney tries an old kernel just because | 09:21 | |
| seb128 | trying to apply a buggy config? | 09:22 |
| ochosi | Laney: hmm, right-click area doesn't sound very practical. but i'll see when i get mine | 09:22 |
| seb128 | try moving the monitors.xml away? | 09:22 |
| Laney | I think it's before it gets there but yeah will try | 09:22 |
| Laney | (it broke on lightdm too) | 09:23 |
| seb128 | weird | 09:23 |
| seb128 | lightdm doesn't use the user config, so not like that | 09:24 |
| Laney | well I think I copied a monitors.xml somewhere a while ago | 09:24 |
| Laney | but it definitely didn't change so it would be weird if that broke | 09:24 |
| seb128 | yeah | 09:24 |
| Laney | ya, still fails | 09:25 |
| seb128 | new gtk issue? | 09:25 |
| Laney | I've been running that for weeks | 09:25 |
| Laney | gsd_rr_config.c:661 | 09:25 |
| * Laney needs to rebuild with noopt | 09:26 | |
| seb128 | Laney, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/208560074/buildlog_ubuntu_wily_i386_ubuntu-desktop-next_BUILDING.txt.gz | 09:30 |
| seb128 | now it wants me to add all the groups you made me drop on friday :-/ | 09:30 |
| Laney | I thought you copied the list from the system? | 09:31 |
| seb128 | yes, I did | 09:31 |
| Laney | is this some later change?!?!?! | 09:31 |
| Laney | "during setup" | 09:32 |
| seb128 | guess so | 09:32 |
| Laney | this seems to have seeded packages | 09:32 |
| seb128 | not sure to understand what's going on | 09:32 |
| Laney | I guess those weren't in it earlier on | 09:32 |
| * didrocks goes for a run before it's too warm outside | 09:32 | |
| Laney | so you have to change the bits that are outputted to /etc/... but leave the hashes the same | 09:32 |
| Laney | :/ | 09:32 |
| Laney | fun process | 09:32 |
| seb128 | didrocks, enjoy | 09:33 |
| didrocks | thx | 09:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, like you would apply the diffs from the log to 00-uid-gid-fix.chroot_early ? | 09:33 |
| Laney | I think so | 09:34 |
| Laney | I think the hash is the values just after debootstrap | 09:35 |
| Laney | and then there is another check after all of the seeded packages have been put in | 09:35 |
| Laney | but that doesn't check the hash again | 09:35 |
| Laney | (it seems) | 09:35 |
| seb128 | right | 09:35 |
| seb128 | so basically it's putting back the version I had on friday ;-) | 09:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 09:35 |
| Laney | without docker and stuff | 09:36 |
| seb128 | just docker, which was a custom hack on the side | 09:43 |
| seb128 | let's see how that goes, trying to do a local build over lunch, it takes some time but I don't want to abuse the cdimage builders too much | 09:44 |
| Laney | I should do it for just one arch | 09:47 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, I'm just back from vacation. | 09:54 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, can we discuss this please? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/1456597 | 09:54 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1456597 in ubuntu-mate-settings (Ubuntu) " ubuntu-mate-settings 0.4.5 release [debdiff attached]" [Wishlist,New] | 09:54 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: in a minute, fixing something atm | 10:10 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: you can get your previous sponsor to upload it if you really want to | 10:10 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, Thanks. I'll contact some other sponsors. I understand you're concerns and I am making upstream changes where possible. | 10:13 |
| Laney | okay | 10:13 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, I'd like to understand the XDG_CONFIG_DIRS idea you suggested. Not encountered that env before. | 10:13 |
| Laney | http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html | 10:14 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, Yeah, already reading that ;-) | 10:14 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll poke around the code of the apps in questions to see if the use XDG. | 10:15 |
| flexiondotorg | *they use | 10:15 |
| Laney | flexiondotorg: I think I'm basically suggesting that if they don't then they should do ;-) | 10:19 |
| Laney | tjaalton: hi, do you know if xmir made x break abi? | 10:19 |
| Laney | [ 81.641] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so: undefined symbol: xorgMir | 10:19 |
| Laney | wtf, I don't see exp1ubuntu2.2 in the archive? | 10:21 |
| Laney | I feel like I'm disconnected from reality this morning | 10:21 |
| Laney | oh yes, confirming my insanity further, I was typing -intel and not -nouveau :( | 10:22 |
| Laney | works after a rebuild | 10:29 |
| Laney | larsu: do you have a patch for the gnome-screenshot white flash issue hanging around? | 10:49 |
| larsu | Laney: no.. didn't I give that to you at some point? | 10:54 |
| * larsu cannot find it | 10:54 | |
| Laney | ah, don't know :( | 10:54 |
| larsu | oops | 10:55 |
| Laney | why does this work from jhbuild? | 11:00 |
| larsu | dunno. Different gnome-screenshot? | 11:01 |
| larsu | I forgot what the issue there was... | 11:02 |
| larsu | wait - gnome doesn't use gnome-screenshot at all anymore, does it? | 11:02 |
| Laney | no but we do | 11:02 |
| larsu | right, and running that against gtk in jhbuild makes it work? | 11:03 |
| Laney | I get different behaviour with our version | 11:03 |
| Laney | it prompts for a filename by default | 11:04 |
| Laney | bet there's a patch | 11:04 |
| larsu | yes | 11:04 |
| larsu | it is | 11:04 |
| * Laney applies this one | 11:04 | |
| larsu | brb | 11:05 |
| Laney | ah yes this happens | 11:05 |
| Laney | I suppose because gnome-screenshot just exists otherwise | 11:05 |
| Laney | larsu: I think the fix was to stop setting the visual on the flash window | 11:11 |
| attente | mitya57: hey, i was referring to master at this commit: https://github.com/lenky0401/fcitx-qimpanel/commit/05fd858ef84da971a98d4f68b25f4bd897676b43. when i tried running from that point, it still doesn't see those submenus properly | 11:15 |
| Laney | s/exists/exits/ | 11:22 |
| Laney | hi attente! | 11:22 |
| attente | hi Laney! | 11:22 |
| Laney | what's up | 11:25 |
| tjaalton | Laney: it probably did, blame ancell :) | 11:28 |
| Laney | tjaalton: bah! | 11:31 |
| Laney | should $package have changed its name? | 11:31 |
| tjaalton | what pkg? | 11:32 |
| Laney | that's what I'm asking | 11:32 |
| Laney | there's nothing about xmir in nouveau's depends | 11:33 |
| tjaalton | i'm not sure how the drivers became depending the module.. | 11:36 |
| tjaalton | i'm away this week, vmware already got rebuilt because of something, maybe the same issue | 11:39 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: ^ | 11:39 |
| tjaalton | so perhaps all the video drivers need to be rebuilt.. | 11:39 |
| Laney | it seems like it had an exported xorgMir symbol before but doesn't now | 11:40 |
| tjaalton | because xmir is no longer a module but a server of it's own | 11:41 |
| tjaalton | see the recent announcement | 11:41 |
| Laney | ah hmm | 11:45 |
| tjaalton | so a well-tested transition ;) | 11:46 |
| Laney | I think | 11:46 |
| Laney | that when I rebuilt nouveau it probably built without the xmir patch being active any more | 11:47 |
| Laney | #ifdef XMIR | 11:47 |
| Laney | #include "xmir.h" | 11:47 |
| Laney | #include "xf86Priv.h" | 11:47 |
| Laney | #else | 11:47 |
| Laney | typedef struct xmir_screen xmir_screen; | 11:47 |
| Laney | #define xorgMir 0 | 11:47 |
| Laney | #endif | 11:47 |
| Laney | and XMIR isn't defined any more after the new upload | 11:47 |
| Laney | (that xorgMir symbol was exported in xf86Priv.h) | 11:48 |
| Laney | tjaalton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1462994 fyi | 12:01 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1462994 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "2:1.17.1-0ubuntu4 broke xmir ABI" [Undecided,New] | 12:01 |
| tjaalton | Laney: thanks! | 12:15 |
| larsu | pitti: my problem turns out to be lightdm dying in a loop, because it can't call ActivateSession() | 12:22 |
| pitti | larsu: hm, but adb also keeps failing? | 12:31 |
| pitti | larsu: or, I guess you actually got that working now, to find out the ActivateSession() error? | 12:32 |
| willcooke | A pigeon just flew in to my window at full speed. | 12:57 |
| willcooke | I'm pretty sure its dead | 12:57 |
| willcooke | #birdnews | 12:57 |
| ogra_ | :( | 12:57 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: man no wonder none of our messages get to you | 13:28 |
| willcooke | :D | 13:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, is that gnome-screenshot hidpi patch a variant from https://code.launchpad.net/~woodrow-shen/gnome-screenshot/fix-hidpi.trusty/+merge/248486 ? | 16:59 |
| Laney | I saw it there, going to give some feedback soon | 17:02 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 17:03 |
| Laney | I think gnome-screenshot isn't very active upstream | 17:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, no it's not :-/ | 17:03 |
| seb128 | is your patch fixing the linked bug? | 17:03 |
| seb128 | or just addressing part of the issue? | 17:03 |
| Laney | should do, let me close it | 17:04 |
| seb128 | thanks | 17:04 |
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| Laney | see you! | 17:17 |
| pat__ | cyphermox, hey just ran into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1436330 its still busted using the latest in proposed | 19:41 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1436330 in network-manager (Ubuntu Vivid) "Network Manager doesn't set metric for local networks any more, causing connection issues" [Critical,Fix committed] | 19:41 |
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| willcooke | morning robert_ancell | 20:00 |
| robert_ancell | willcooke, hi | 20:01 |
| willcooke | g'night all | 20:17 |
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