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| mpt | cjwatson, are you maintaining Ubiquity these days? | 12:42 |
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| cjwatson | mpt: No, try mathieu-tl | 12:43 |
| cjwatson | I moved to Launchpad at the start of the year | 12:43 |
| flexiondotorg | cyphermox, infinity Can you explain how Ubuntu MATE can create an alternate iso image? | 12:43 |
| mpt | cjwatson, ok. The last four ubiquity uploads were four different people, and you were one of them, so I guessed. :-) | 12:43 |
| flexiondotorg | I've tried to identify where lubuntu configuration is for doing this and can find it. | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, no withdrawal symptoms yet when not getting 300 installer bugs per day in your inbox ? | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | I filtered those a very long time ago, so not so much, no | 12:48 |
| ogra_ | heh | 12:48 |
| mpt | cyphermox, hi, Andreea and I have been trying to see Ubiquity’s “Connect to the Internet” step in action, but haven’t managed it. VirtualBox helpfully provides a virtual wired connection, so Ubiquity skips the step as it should. But it also skips the step on a real-life Dell laptop with no Ethernet. Any ideas? | 12:50 |
| xnox | mpt: "real-life Dell laptop" should also have a "wifi card" which is detected by network manager, and e.g. has free drivers. | 14:14 |
| xnox | mpt: as a quick check on that laptop, does the network indicator have wifi options, on the top? | 14:14 |
| xnox | mpt: if it doesn't have any wifi there, ubiquity will skip as well. | 14:15 |
| xnox | mpt: e.g. dell laptop also has "airplane" kill switches on the keyboard, you can try Fn+F2 (or some such) to toggle it, maybe then wifi card will be actived, and then ubiquity should show the network page.... | 14:15 |
| mpt | Hey xnox! Thanks, we’ll try that | 14:18 |
| * mpt marks a four-year-old Ubiquity bug report as a duplicate of an even older one | 14:28 | |
| xnox | mpt: \o/ how many digits in the bug? =) | 15:01 |
| mpt | xnox, three | 15:03 |
| xnox | wow | 15:03 |
| xnox | mpt: which one? | 15:03 |
| mpt | xnox, but one of the digits is reported four times :-P It’s bug 888380 | 15:03 |
| xnox | mpt: haha, that "bug" has a wiki page =) | 15:04 |
| xnox | mpt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/KeyboardBug | 15:04 |
| xnox | Wrong locale/cannot change locale on OEM ID ( http://pad.lv/290421 ) | 15:05 |
| xnox | Wrong locale/cannot change locale on the WiFi step ( http://pad.lv/871752 ) | 15:05 |
| xnox | Full Disk Encryption passphrase locale != boot time locale ( http://pad.lv/1047384 ) | 15:05 |
| xnox | Geolocation cannot be type in Latin (~ish) locale ( http://pad.lv/630990 ) ( http://pad.lv/1055124 ) | 15:05 |
| xnox | Cannot change locale at user info step ( http://pad.lv/511956 ) | 15:05 |
| xnox | There are possibly other subtle bugs like that. | 15:05 |
| mpt | Oh, if I’d known that page existed I could have been quicker at designing the “keyboard-requiring step” dingus | 15:06 |
| xnox | mpt: i know that page exists, only because i created it. | 15:09 |
| mpt | Does the “OEM ID” step still exist? I’ve never seen it | 15:09 |
| xnox | mpt: imho at all input fields we should say "if you need to change keyboard layout, use indicator on top" | 15:10 |
| xnox | but we have indicators to do that only on some flavours, e.g. on ubuntu, but not some others. | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | Yes, but only if you boot the image in "OEM install (for manufacturers)" mode | 15:10 |
| xnox | mpt: OEM ID is visible only when doing OEM "golden image install" which one needs to specially boot into. | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | (i.e. the oem-config/enable=true kernel parameter) | 15:10 |
| mpt | xnox, we currently have another designer proposing changes to the installer design (because CONVERGENCE!!!1), and one of her suggestions was that we don’t have indicators in the installer session at all | 15:11 |
| xnox | mpt: ubiquity is not meant for installation in convergence mode...... especially not in click/snap world of convergence. | 15:12 |
| mpt | yeah | 15:12 |
| xnox | mpt: if confergence implies click/snap, we should instead interating/adapting the first boot welcome experience to do something sensible on the desktop. | 15:12 |
| xnox | not say "setting up your phone" and stop forcing "put your sim card in" | 15:13 |
| xnox | and just use that, without any ubiquity. | 15:13 |
| mpt | Yeah but then, dual booting, and partitioning, and LUKS, and LVM, and | 15:13 |
| xnox | e.g. "converge mode" is mostly end-user oem-config. It would be cool to replace that portion of ubiquiyt, the the converged/phone first user boot experience. | 15:13 |
| mpt | right | 15:14 |
| xnox | which i did propose to do with ubiquity always, when doing U1 stuff in the installer, which got shot down by rick saying ubuntu desktop should boot to desktop without anything. | 15:14 |
| xnox | kind of contrary what we do on the phone nowadays. | 15:15 |
| mpt | Well, there shouldn’t be both. And since some Ubuntu users install themselves, that means everything belongs in the installer | 15:17 |
| mpt | (install Ubuntu themselves, I mean) | 15:17 |
| mpt | Ok, I think all those bug reports are now linked to the spec and vice versa | 15:30 |
| flexiondotorg | cyphermox, I'm back from vacation :) | 16:01 |
| flexiondotorg | cyphermox, Would you expect Ubiquity to be able to install onto a USB drive? | 16:01 |
| flexiondotorg | show all | 16:01 |
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