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| ChrisTownsend | Anybody have any ideas why my laptop is always displaying the OOBE no matter what user I use on the system? | 14:05 |
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| ChrisTownsend | When I say "OOBE", it's the wizard that wants to set up the phone. | 14:05 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, in unity8 sessions? | 14:09 |
| bregma | yes | 14:10 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: yep | 14:10 |
| seb128 | why wouldn't it? | 14:10 |
| bregma | well, it's not a phone, for a start | 14:10 |
| seb128 | you probably have that component installed and it has an upstart job that makes it show | 14:10 |
| bregma | I shout at it, but no one ever answers | 14:10 |
| bregma | any idea which upstart job has the bug? | 14:11 |
| ChrisTownsend | Hmm, which component? It happens both with unity8-desktop-session-mir and with unity8-lxc which is basically the Ubuntu Desktop Next ISO in an LXC. | 14:12 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, bregma, no in fact it seems they changed it to be some unity8 component | 14:20 |
| seb128 | mterry might know better the condition for it to show | 14:20 |
| * mterry reads back | 14:20 | |
| mterry | ChrisTownsend, that wizard is in unity8 itself. It shows if the file ~/.config/ubuntu-system-settings/wizard-has-run doesn't exist | 14:22 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: Ok, I'll check that. But hat's kind of a poor wizard for desktop session users the first time they log in:) | 14:24 |
| mterry | ChrisTownsend, agreed. That is just one example of many where we need to adjust wording (no hardcoded 'phone') and behavior. We don't have stellar "mode" detection right now | 14:25 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: Yeah, I don't have that file. Actually, I don't even have the .config/ubuntu-system-settings directory. | 14:25 |
| bregma | I'm not sure there is even a proper plan in place for solving that problem, and certainly the lack of suitable and effective QA continues to hurt the convergence effort | 14:26 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: It now shows the regular greeter when I created that dir and file. | 14:27 |
| bregma | kgunn, is do we have any kind of design or plan in place for the initial experience of Ubuntu Personal on different devices? | 14:28 |
| seb128 | bregma, ChrisTownsend, kgunn, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1435877 | 14:29 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1435877 in Ubuntu UX "[design] tutorial not adapted to desktop mode" [Medium,Triaged] | 14:29 |
| mterry | ChrisTownsend, so sounds like a problem that it couldn't make that dir. But good otherwise, right? | 14:31 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, mterry, couldn't it make that dir, or are you starting with a fresh profile every time? | 14:31 |
| mterry | (we have code to make that dir... but clearly isn't working here) | 14:32 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: I didn't go all the way through the wizard. As a desktop user, I don't need to set a PIN or a passphrase. | 14:32 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: So I bailed out wondering why I need to do that. | 14:32 |
| mterry | ChrisTownsend, right I just meant that you expected to see the greeter now that you have the dir | 14:33 |
| bregma | as I recall, you can go through the whole wizard and it doesn't actually affect anything | 14:33 |
| mterry | So the bug here is just around the dir/file creation | 14:33 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: Yes, I created the dir and the wizard-has-run file and now the greeter shows as expected with no wizard. When is the dir and file supposed to be created? | 14:34 |
| mterry | ChrisTownsend, as the wizard ends | 14:34 |
| mterry | ChrisTownsend, ah... but you were bailing | 14:35 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: Ok, I never ended the wizard. | 14:35 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: Right | 14:35 |
| mterry | yay, so unexpected behavior and likely a bug that we show certain options on the desktop | 14:35 |
| mterry | but mostly working | 14:35 |
| mterry | a matter of UX | 14:35 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: It was confusing to me as to why that wizard was coming up. And I supposedly know what I'm doing:) | 14:36 |
| mterry | ChrisTownsend, fair | 14:36 |
| ChrisTownsend | mterry: Thanks! | 14:36 |
| kgunn | bregma: i do know that design has it on their backlog to address the OOBE for desktop/converged devices | 14:39 |
| ChrisTownsend | kgunn: I can tell you it's one f'd up experience when trying out Unity 8 right now. It confused the hell outta me. | 14:41 |
| ChrisTownsend | kgunn: I was like, "What is this? I'm not on a phone!" And just powered off the machine. | 14:41 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, you are weird :-) | 14:42 |
| seb128 | it's confusing but it has nothing scary, does it? why powering off the machine | 14:42 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: lol, you're not the first to tell me that:) | 14:42 |
| seb128 | you could have acked your language | 14:42 |
| seb128 | and the few other things it asks about | 14:42 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, lol, sorry :-) | 14:43 |
| seb128 | I agree it's confusing, but it's not the end of the world | 14:43 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: The thing I kind of got nervous about is it asking for no password, PIN, or Passphrase. I wasn't sure how that would react to the one already set for my user. | 14:43 |
| bregma | I tried it earlier, it does nothing | 14:44 |
| bregma | which may in itself be a bug, I dunno | 14:44 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, oh, I see | 14:44 |
| seb128 | I made the liveCD session write the timestamp file to not have the oobe on there | 14:44 |
| seb128 | we should probably skip it on desktop as well, unsure how to detect "desktop" though | 14:45 |
| bregma | it only lets me enter a limited-length numeric-digit-only password, maybe 32 bits of entropy | 14:45 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: We could have the unity8-desktop-session-mir package write that file out as well. | 14:45 |
| seb128 | yeah | 14:45 |
| seb128 | that's probably a good way to workaround it | 14:45 |
| seb128 | want to mp a change for that? | 14:45 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: It's user specific though, so how do we handle all current users of the machine and any new one's? | 14:46 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, /usr/bin/lightdm-unity8-session is run by the user no? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | just add a mkdir && touch in there? | 14:49 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: Ah, good idea, thanks! | 14:49 |
| seb128 | yw! | 14:49 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: And yeah, I'll do the MP. | 14:50 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, thanks! | 14:50 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: You're welcome! | 14:50 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, maybe write some #TODO comment with a reference to 1435877 (or to an equivalent bug for the oobe wizard) | 14:51 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: sure | 14:51 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:52 |
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| mhall119 | willcooke: is there any work-around to the N4->HDMI sizing issue? | 17:16 |
| willcooke | mhall119, dont know. I think that's a U8 thing, maybe Mir | 17:31 |
| willcooke | but I think not, just have to live with it for now | 17:32 |
| mhall119 | ok, I was hoping to show it off at SELF this weekend, but not if it won't look god | 17:32 |
| mhall119 | good even | 17:32 |
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