[00:00] <beterraba> actually, there's an output after a while: Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (0 hosts up) scanned in 103.21 seconds
[00:02] <jarray52> beterabba: You should see something like `inet addr:192.168.*.*` in your ifconfig for one of your interfaces.
[00:04] <beterraba> on wlan0 i see inet addr:172.16.0.214
[00:05] <jarray52> beterraba: Do you have a router?
[00:05] <meshuggah> beterraba, http://www.tcpiputils.com/browse/ip-address/109.202.148.146 ?
[00:05] <beterraba> yes, but i dont have access to it
[00:05] <jarray52> Do you have another machine on the local network?
[00:05] <meshuggah> under dns server, but not sure it would help
[00:05] <beterraba> yes
[00:06] <jarray52> beterraba: Can you ping that machine by its hostname?
[00:06] <beterraba> of course, let me try
[00:09] <beterraba> well.. i think i cant :(
[00:10] <beterraba> thats weird.. i ifconfig both of them. one is 172.16.0.83 and the other is 172.16.0.214
[00:10] <beterraba> i try to cross-ping them, but 'request timeout for ..'
[00:12] <jarray52> beterraba: Can you ping by ip address?
[00:12] <jarray52> beterraba: Are both boxes Ubuntu?
[00:12] <beterraba> one is, the other is mac
[00:13] <beterraba> i tryied to ping by ip
[00:13] <jarray52> beterraba: Did that work?
[00:13] <beterraba> nop
[00:13] <jarray52> beterraba: That's a different issue.
[00:14] <mherweg> after installing kernel 3.13.0-53 many drivers in /var/lib/modules are missing -> no sound. with 3.13.0-39 everything is fine
[00:15] <mherweg> /lib/modules   (not /var)
[00:17] <__Myst__> ...how do I fix having two cursors?
[00:18] <uio> Hello, how might I upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 via command line?
[00:19] <Ben64> uio: is there a reason you want 14.10?
[00:19] <beterraba> __Myst__: what do you mean? you have two cursor mouses?
[00:19] <uio> Ben64: Well, 14.04 is having boot issues (ie, will hang every fifth boot or so) and I read that I cannot upgrad directly to 15.04....
[00:20] <__Myst__> Yes, beterraba
[00:20] <beterraba> lol, never heard of it
[00:20] <Ben64> uio: you should work on that problem then
[00:21] <uio> Ben64: True.. I have to no avail....
[00:21] <Ben64> upgrading is unlikely to fix it
[00:22] <uio> uio: I guess this is not officially the channel for it... I thought I'd just ask for the command question. It's a lubuntu. No such issue with xubuntu, but indeed with lubuntu. Hangs at an illuminated screen around grub.
[00:23] <Ben64> illuminated screen around grub? whats that mean
[00:24] <apoplexy_> if i install elementary.io and need help can i ask for help in here
[00:24] <apoplexy_> its the same shit right
[00:24] <dfcnvt> Anybody know of any best media player that CAN play 60fps (excluding the hardware accelerated decoding in VLC)
[00:24] <uio> Ben64: That it hangs at an illuminated screen around the same time that grub would (but does not) appear as grub is set to =0.
[00:25] <Ben64> apoplexy_: no
[00:25] <apoplexy_> Ben64, why not
[00:25] <Ben64> dfcnvt: mpv, mplayer2, mplayer
[00:25] <__Myst__> For some reason no "gnome-terminal -e" will work
[00:25] <Ben64> apoplexy_: because it isn't ubuntu
[00:25] <dfcnvt> A video like this can play so well on my chrome browser in linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaaNLFFftrs
[00:25] <__Myst__> Either it throws an error or flashes
[00:25] <__Myst__> what should I do?
[00:25] <dfcnvt> Ben64: mpv, I'll check it out.
[00:26] <apoplexy_> but the majority of the commands, etc are the same, right?
[00:26] <uio> apoplexy_: 'Same shit' would presuppose that : 1) it is shit and 2) it is the same....
[00:26] <uio> apoplexy_: Seeing as 1) is false, the statement is untrue....
[00:27] <Ben64> apoplexy_: maybe? still isn't supported here
[00:31] <dr__> Can I adjust the partion size Ubuntu 14.04 -- getting a message boot directory is almost full
[00:32] <meshuggah> dr__, you can with gparted, but i suggest you to do backup of important file first
[00:32] <dfcnvt> Ben64: It doesn't look like it work.   "mpv --fps=60 StarWar60fpsTest.mp4"
[00:33] <Ben64> don't use --fps
[00:33] <dr__> Thanks I have tried that but it did not work
[00:33] <meshuggah> dr__, did u have tried it from a livecd, un an UNMOUNTED partition?
[00:33] <meshuggah> on* an
[00:33] <dfcnvt> Ben64: Even without any arg/opts...It still look like 25fps or something.
[00:34] <Ben64> might be your cpu or gpu being too slow
[00:34] <dfcnvt> Oh no, it's a fast system.
[00:34] <Ben64> or a bad file
[00:34] <EriC^^> dr__: just remove some old kernels from /boot
[00:34] <dfcnvt> No, good file.
[00:34] <Ben64> send it to me
[00:35] <dfcnvt> Just incapable software to make it 60fps on linux system.
[00:35] <Ben64> nope, 60fps works fine
[00:35] <meshuggah> talking about video, any magic i need to know for playing h.264 codec video, on vlc? without lag
[00:35] <Bashing-om> dr__: One removes old kernels that reside in /boot with terminal command ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' .
[00:36] <dr__> I used an install Ubuntu installation disk to start the system and access Gparted
[00:36] <dfcnvt> Then does this youtube video on my browser looked way better than what showed on mpv (media player) on linxu?   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaaNLFFftrs
[00:36] <dfcnvt> why does***
[00:36] <Ben64> who knows, send me the video
[00:36] <dr__> What does a Kernel name look like thats safe to remove
[00:37] <dfcnvt> Ben64: http://en.savefrom.net/1-how-to-download-youtube-video/
[00:37] <dfcnvt> Ben64: paste the link then download 720p
[00:37] <EriC^^> dr__: type uname -r to get your current kernel
[00:38] <meshuggah> dr__, i had success with ext3, ext4, ntfs resizing partition often, if that dont do the job, deleting kernel and/or trimming fat(removing install software you know you dont need) can do the job(example: if u got chrome, opera, firefox, just keep one)
[00:38] <EriC^^> dr__: and dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[00:38] <EriC^^> for the list of kernels installed
[00:40] <Ben64> dfcnvt: the video is 30fps
[00:41] <dr__> Thanks for the quick replies, wife just called me for dinner.  I will try what you have suggested
[00:42] <TechIsCool> Anyone already seen ex machina?
[00:42] <dfcnvt> Ben64: ...Not sure how to get it directly from youtube...1080p60
[00:43] <dfcnvt> Ben64: The left side is mpv & the right is youtube -- http://i.imgur.com/arMKh1B.jpg
[00:43]  * gzcwnk bangs head against wall
[00:44] <Ben64> ok?
[00:45] <meshuggah> TechIsCool, what is it about, deus ex?
[00:45] <dfcnvt> Ben64: I guess it doesn't show very much difference since it's a still picture.   The right side seem very detailed than the left.
[00:45] <TechIsCool> meshuggah: No the movie that was ta sun dance this year
[00:45] <Ben64> not even the same frame
[00:45] <__Myst__> So... My Wi-Fi randomy stops working. Is that normal?
[00:45] <__Myst__> Just suddenly "plop", no connection
[00:45] <__Myst__> Works on other devices
[00:45] <NegativeFlare> __Myst__: of course not
[00:46] <NegativeFlare> Your driver my be messing up
[00:46] <meshuggah> TechIsCool, no i dont know about that
[00:46] <__Myst__> NegativeFlare: I have the official solution for my chipset
[00:46] <__Myst__> from Broadcom
[00:47] <NegativeFlare> heh, that's probably why
[00:47] <NegativeFlare> Broadcom has always had issues with Linux
[00:47] <NegativeFlare> I've always avoided using broadcom chips
[00:49] <Ben64> dfcnvt: got the 60fps version out of youtube, its not even 60fps, its terrible interpolation, try a good source next time
[00:49] <Bashing-om> !bcm | __Myst__
[00:50] <dfcnvt> Ben64: Err, then where's the good source?
[00:50] <Ben64> not from youtube
[00:50] <Symbiosis> Hello. I'm trying to set up apt-get to work through a proxy.  My network configuration is setup such that all traffic has to go through my proxy, else it fails to connect.  I've gotten my browser to work with the proxy, but apt-get keeps failing. Is there a way to fix this?
[00:51] <meshuggah> TechIsCool, how is the movie, it seems not too bad
[00:51] <NegativeFlare> Symbiosis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[00:51] <TechIsCool> meshuggah: I was trying to decide if I was going to see it.
[00:52] <meshuggah> TechIsCool, it is rated 7.8 on imdb, that is not bad, and i like the title, seems like deus ex(but based on deus ex machina, god come from machine)
[00:54] <dcz> hello guys, while i am playing games like Left 4 Dead, i am getting excellent fps, however laptop gets too much heat wheras windows not as much linux, is there any option cool down on linux or not ?
[00:54] <NegativeFlare> dcz: failcontrol
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> erm
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> fancontrol*
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> Just be careful with it
[00:55] <dcz> how do i check it ?
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> dcz: Check the temps?
[00:55] <NegativeFlare> lm-sensors
[00:55] <meshuggah> dcz, if u got nvidia drivers installed, there is still nvidia-settings you can check to put the fan higher
[00:55] <dcz> while in game , i looked at it , and it was about 90 for gpu and 85 for cpus
[00:56] <dcz> yea nvidia gtx 860m
[00:56] <meshuggah> dcz, type <sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings> then run nvidia-settings from terminal or the menu
[00:57] <meshuggah> if u got the drivers installed
[00:57] <dcz> i opened it , where is fan control ?
[00:58] <meshuggah> i dont remember exactly and i cannot check for it currently, but just check the menu
[00:58] <meshuggah> should be in the middle somewhere
[00:59] <Symbiosis> I've figured out my problem, my dns requests when using apt-get are going nowhere due to the network. Is there a way to configure dns requests through a proxy?
[00:59] <meshuggah> i also see that to run from terminal : nvidia-settings -a "[fan:0]/GPUCurrentFanSpeed=100"       seems to put fanspeed to 100%
[01:00] <dcz> isnt it harmful also ?
[01:00] <meshuggah> dcz, probably decrease fan life
[01:01] <meshuggah> dcz, but in the gui nvidia-settings there is an option to put it to auto, so low speed if no playing, high speed if playing and temperature rising
[01:01] <dcz> http://imgur.com/vRJ2p7C,ESz3qBY,QIFmidR
[01:01] <meshuggah> dcz, you can also put GHz of gpu and ram from the same place, to 100%, or auto
[01:01] <dcz> can you look at
[01:02] <meshuggah> fps: 289???
[01:02] <meshuggah> wow
[01:02] <dcz> :D
[01:02] <dcz> yeah
[01:02] <dcz> better then windows , however too much heat
[01:03] <dcz> http://i.imgur.com/QIFmidR.png
[01:03] <meshuggah> dcz, from the games option, can you setup max fps to 60 or 120 or more normal? this would lessen the heat
[01:04] <meshuggah> check thermal settings, powermizer options
[01:04] <meshuggah> dcz, i think thermal settings is for fan speed, powermizer for GHz of ram and gpu, sorry if my human ddr-ram is bad
[01:05] <dcz> There is nothing at thermal settings
[01:05] <dcz> http://i.imgur.com/ESz3qBY.png
[01:05] <meshuggah> dcz, and powermizer?
[01:06] <dcz> http://i.imgur.com/fr4x8bn.png
[01:07] <dcz> there is one more option at PowerMizer, Prefer Maximum Performance
[01:07] <meshuggah> dcz, or you still can send me via mail your computer...i will set it for you....;)
[01:07] <dcz> haha :D
[01:09] <phix> jaxlug?
[01:09] <dcz> thank you for your help
[01:10] <meshuggah> dcz, cya, sorry for my lack of precision
[01:12] <meshuggah> hum, if he come back, nvidia-settings->thermal settings ->enable GPU fan settings
[01:12] <Ben64> mine doesn't let me change that
[01:13] <meshuggah> nvidia driver 349.16 seems to have bug about it
[01:13] <Ben64> running 331
[01:14] <u53j> anyone with calculus knowledge?
[01:14] <Ben64> u53j: wrong channel
[01:15] <meshuggah> ben64 if your gfx card let you do it, try another driver between the 331 and 349, like 346.35 maybe could help
[01:16] <Ben64> meshuggah: not really important to me, just interesting
[01:17] <meshuggah> well, have all a good evening :)
[01:18] <hetakuso> Using the standard installation medium (not mini.iso), is there a way to not install every package? There's no option in the installer
[01:19] <u53j> jk
[01:19] <Flannel> hetakuso: No, the desktop CD installer is an image-based install (not a package based one)
[01:20] <hetakuso> Flannel: oh, I had no idea. That would make sense, then
[01:20] <hetakuso> Thanks
[01:21] <u53j> can i create a chatroom?
[01:22] <Jack_The_Ripper> For dualbooting win7 and mate, does it make a difference which I install first?
[01:23] <sveta> start with win
[01:23] <sveta> it does matter
[01:23] <psusi> hetakuso, there used to be the alternate installer but it went away, and there is still the server installer, but the expierence is the same as with mini.iso only it doesn't have to download all of the packages as they are on the cd
[01:24] <sveta> because ubuntu knows how to install grub but windows does not
[01:24] <Jack_The_Ripper> Ah right. I shall hopefully get ti done in 5 hours...it takes so damm long
[01:24] <hetakuso> psusi: I'll just use the regular installer and then delete about 1,000 packages, then. haha
[01:25] <psusi> hetakuso, like what?  the entire gui? :)
[01:25] <hetakuso> psusi: going to use xfce
[01:25] <psusi> hetakuso, then download xubuntu?
[01:26] <hetakuso> psusi: is that pretty much the same as ubuntu+xfce?
[01:26] <psusi> yea
[01:27] <psusi> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xfce
[01:27] <Daekdroom> ubuntu = unity, and a set of apps that is somewhat similar to GNOME
[01:27] <Daekdroom> Ubuntu GNOME = GNOME
[01:28] <noethics> it's simple
[01:28] <noethics> sudo apt-get purge *unity*
[01:28] <hetakuso> noethics: right, that's what I was going to do, and now I'm looking into xubuntu. Is there a difference?
[01:29] <noethics> i was kidding, though i am on a ubuntu instllation that i removed like 80% of unity
[01:29] <noethics> my dashboard doesnt work
[01:29] <psusi> ubuntu is 99% gnome... only uses unity as the shell instead of gnome-shell, which is easily enough installed
[01:29] <noethics> and um, i would prefer xubuntu but for some reason there's a couple things are are buggy with my nvidia card
[01:29] <m_> Can someone help me get my GUI back? I have Ubuntu Studio 14.04, I just installed Gnome desktop just using the Ubuntu Software Center. When I rebooted, there's no GUI login screen. Can only Ctrl + Alt + F1 to get command prompt.
[01:30] <hetakuso> noethics: yeah, i'm worried things won't work exactly the same with xubuntu. I think I'll just do the same
[01:30] <hetakuso> I've had problems with installing mini.so followed by desktop environments
[01:30] <noethics> hetakuso, i think im an edge case, i would definitely try xubuntu first
[01:31] <psusi> hetakuso, if you want gnome-shell instead of unity, just install it... if you want xfce ( which includes a ton of its own components instead of the gnome ones ), use xubuntu
[01:32] <hetakuso> Alright, then. Let me try that out.
[01:36] <jarray52> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to autoresolve dns names of machines on the local network?
[01:38] <wastrel> point its dns to the local dns server
[01:39] <jarray52> wastrel: What's the easiest way to do that?
[01:39] <wastrel> have the DNCP server on the LAN set it on clients
[01:40] <jarray52> DNCP or DHCP?
[01:40] <wastrel> indeed DHCP
[01:40] <wastrel> typo :[
[01:42] <jarray52> wastrel: My DHCP server sets the correct dns server on all machines except Ubuntu 14.04LTS. Ubuntu seems to like its own DNS server on 127.0.1.1. I suspect it is non-authoritative, but I'm not sure how to check.
[01:43] <gogoat10^2> <<- trolling. how do i install wine
[01:44] <wastrel> jarray52: this is the resolvconf thingus
[01:44] <jarray52> maybe...
[01:44] <Bashing-om> gogoat10^2: Install wine " sudo apt-gt update ;sudo apt-get install wine ' .
[01:44] <wastrel> jarray52: http://askubuntu.com/questions/152593/command-line-to-list-dns-servers
[01:44] <Bashing-om> apt-get install *
[01:44] <wastrel> jarray52: in sort use nm-tool  to look at your dns setup
[01:44] <gogoat10^2> << trollin
[01:45] <gogoat10^2> install *?
[01:45] <gogoat10^2> o .. trolling ^^
[01:45] <EriC^^> they see me trollin..
[01:46] <psusi> jarray52, ubuntu runs its own local dns server ( hence 127.0.0.1 ) that caches lookups and directs the real quieries to the correct server, which may change frequently during runtime as you establish and tear down connections
[01:46] <gogoat10^2> %you see me trolling... paTrolling...%
[01:46] <somsip> gogoat10^2: stop now. that's enough
[01:46] <gogoat10^2> ok
[01:46] <gogoat10^2> ++ trolling..
[01:46] <wastrel> jarray52: nm-tool | egrep '(Device|DNS)'
[01:46] <gogoat10^2> does anyone use anything But ubuntu here?
[01:46] <gogoat10^2> thats not a troll Q either
[01:47] <somsip> gogoat10^2: ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:47] <gogoat10^2> like.. why stop at ubuntu
[01:47] <gogoat10^2> o this is help. ok. how about the /bin/dash ln instead of /bin/bash?
[01:47] <gogoat10^2> like why?
[01:48] <gogoat10^2> and is anyone concerned with the kindle/amazon intrests in the ubuntu OS ?
[01:51] <jarray52> wastrel: My DNS is set to 8.8.8.8. I wonder if I manually set that, which causes local DNS to fail.
[01:53] <wastrel> that's google's dns
[01:53] <jarray52> I know.
[01:53] <jarray52> The machines that work are set to my local DNS.
[01:54] <hetakuso> jarray52: like mDNS?
[01:54] <jarray52> mDNS?
[01:54] <hetakuso> jarray52: what do you mean by local DNS?
[01:54] <wastrel> dns server on the LAN
[01:55] <hetakuso> yeah, then you want the nameserver to be set by DHCP
[01:55] <hetakuso> and it probably won't be 8.8.8.8
[01:59] <jarray52> wastrel: Thank you! That command totally allowed me to figure out what the problem was.
[01:59] <jarray52> wastrel: The dns resolution issue is now fixed.
[02:00] <wastrel> ♥
[02:04] <babbb> hello
[02:04] <babbb> I am trying to add my local printer to my cups but i dont know what to type for connection?
[02:05] <witheld> At one point, I installed fglrx-updates. It worked, everything was fine. I uninstalled it. Everything was still fine. I reinstalled it and now, I simply can't use it. Whenever I boot, I'm just using the open source X server with Mesa.
[02:05] <witheld> aticonfig tells me to do aticonfig --init, which creates /etx/X11/xorg.conf which is deleted on reboot
[02:05] <witheld> By _something_
[02:06] <witheld> I don't understand
[02:10] <Matty_r2> How do I give another user permissions to access a share on another machine?
[02:11] <threesixes> Matty_r2, what kind of share, sshfs_fuse, samba, nfs?
[02:11] <Matty_r2> samba
[02:11] <babbb> anyone?
[02:12] <Matty_r2> There is a program on another machine that has a specific account that it uses, and that requires read/write access to the samba share.
[02:12] <threesixes> hang on ill dig up my samba configs
[02:12] <Matty_r2> The permissions on the folder itself has 'nobody' 'nobody'
[02:13] <Destroyer> hi
[02:14] <threesixes> https://gist.github.com/666threesixes666/5505323 Matty_r2 this is old...
[02:14] <Matty_r2> threesixes, the shares it's accessing is auto mounted with smbnetfs
[02:14] <threesixes> 1 is read only, 1 is read write
[02:15] <threesixes> that's the server end, i think the client end doesn't require configs
[02:15] <Destroyer> can anyone hear me'
[02:15] <threesixes> whats up Destroyer
[02:15] <Destroyer> cant talk atm
[02:17] <Matty_r2> threesixes, ok so it's probably just the public setting I need to add
[02:18] <threesixes> that's a gentoo config from 2012, i was boblizar on ubuntu forums, then learned wiki syntax, approximately 1200 commits later im a funtoo wikimod and chat admin =)
[02:18] <Destroyer>  i cant get my PC to work
[02:18] <Ben64> !details | Destroyer
[02:18] <threesixes> whats the problem?
[02:20] <Destroyer> Every time i turn my PC on and try running both windows and ubuntu my computer restarts
[02:21] <threesixes> ...  its 1 or the other, unless you're virtualizing
[02:21] <babbb> I am trying to add my local printer to my cups but i dont know what to type for connection?
[02:22] <Destroyer> what i mean is when i try running either windows or ubuntu it restarts
[02:22] <Matty_r2> threesixes, Does ubuntu create shares differently than via /etc/samba/smb.conf? It appears my shares aren't in the conf file
[02:22] <Matty_r2> I did it via the gui
[02:22] <threesixes> that's for samba 3.x series
[02:23] <threesixes> it could be using the dynamic share features of a file manager, that's a directory i cant think of off the top of my head
[02:24] <threesixes> i haven't touched ubuntu in ages other than using it for install media for rolling release distributions
[02:24] <Destroyer> the only thing i have on the computer im using is Ubuntu
[02:24] <Destroyer> i mean back track 5
[02:26] <jeeves_moss> how do I find out why my netbook won't reboot correctly?
[02:28] <threesixes> jeeves_moss, what is it doing, just hanging?
[02:28] <birch_> jeeves_moss, http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ then use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ so we know your specs. also include your cpu architecture and ubuntu version and GUI
[02:30] <jeeves_moss> threesixes, I turned off thesplash screen, and I can see it get all the way to "system halted", then it refuses to reboot the physical box
[02:33] <dgarstang> Tomcat7 on Ubuntu 14.04... CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME are _BOTH_ set to /usr/share/tomcat7. Is this normal?
[02:34] <threesixes> jeeves_moss, like birch_ said, post your hardware stuff...  but yeah...  probably http://linux.koolsolutions.com/2009/08/04/howto-fix-linux-hangfreeze-during-reboots-and-restarts/
[02:34] <Silenced_v2> Guys how to get a CLI login screen ?
[02:34] <threesixes> you may need to adjust bios settings
[02:34] <threesixes> disable the lightdm/xdm service Silenced_v2
[02:34] <somsip> !text | Silenced_v2
[02:35] <threesixes> ctrl + alt + f1 to f7 will give getty terminals
[02:35] <jeeves_moss> threesixes, thanks.  I'll have a look.  Trying to get this little netbook to work is turning into a challange
[02:36] <dgarstang> Tomcat7 on Ubuntu 14.04... CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME are _BOTH_ set to /usr/share/tomcat7. Is this normal?
[02:37] <rafid> i want to work with open source idea
[02:38] <kernelhack> rafid: moreso, what exactly would you like to do? programming, testing etc.
[02:39] <rafid> programming
[02:40] <leo34> i just download progran how do i install it
[02:40] <leo34> is in a jar file
[02:40] <reisio> leo34: what program?
[02:40] <kernelhack> leo34: what is it?
[02:40] <threesixes> java -jar file.jar
[02:40] <kernelhack> rafid: what language you like?
[02:40] <leo34> jenimmotyon
[02:41] <reisio> threesixes: goof :p
[02:41] <leo34> i want to emule andron in ubuntu
[02:41] <threesixes> hi reisio lol
[02:41] <reisio> lawlz
[02:41] <reisio> leo34: what's jenimmotyon have to do with that?
[02:41] <kernelhack> leo34: full english please.
[02:41] <leo34> sorry genimotyon
[02:42] <leo34> i was readiang that in ubuntu foros
[02:42] <rafid> i like c++
[02:42] <reisio> android has an official emulator, it's probably in the repos
[02:42] <leo34> i didin't know it
[02:43] <leo34> what is the name
[02:43] <HellsZNC> join server irc.deadchildren.info join channel #HELLNETjoin server irc.deadchildren.info join channel #HELLNET
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[02:43] <kernelhack> rafid: my suggestion, grab the source code of something that you already use and play around with the code. see what you can do to improve it.
[02:44] <rafid> i want to change in kernel of ubuntu
[02:44] <jakeymage> why do you want to change the kernel..different hardware, or to say you can
[02:45] <kernelhack> rafid: why? is there something wrong with kernel installed from ubuntu repos?
[02:45] <dgarstang> Tomcat7 on Ubuntu 14.04... CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME are _BOTH_ set to /usr/share/tomcat7. Is this normal?
[02:46] <rafid> i want understand how open source work
[02:47] <rafid_> i want understand how open source work
[02:47] <kernelhack> start with something less complicated than kernel code.
[02:47] <kernelhack> it is very complex for new users.
[02:48] <rafid_> how can i start
[02:48] <kernelhack> as is said just before: my suggestion, grab the source code of something that you already use and play around with the code. see what you can do to improve it.
[02:49] <rafid_> from where i can start
[02:49] <kernelhack> use you favorite search engine and type something like "nano source code".
[02:50] <kernelhack> nano is a nice simple terminal text editor and is good to play around with the source code.
[02:51] <jakeymage> I started with web programming before I tried C
[02:53] <kernelhack> jakeymage: same. seems like an eternity ago now.
[02:57] <Rickb> Hello. I'm new to this
[02:57] <kernelhack> Rickb: hi.
[02:58] <kernelhack> new to ubuntu you mean?
[02:58] <Rickb> Hey kernelhack
[02:58] <Rickb> yeah
[02:58] <Rickb> are you familiar w/ the ubuntu system, kernelhack?
[02:59] <kernelhack> ok then. welcome. i hope ubuntu suits your requirement in linux.
[02:59] <kernelhack> Rickb: very familiar. many years.
[02:59] <Rickb> is it ok if I ask you a for help on something
[02:59] <kernelhack> yes. what is it?
[03:01] <Rickb> Have you ever had a problem inputing data in a terminal. Like all of a sudden your keyboard doesn't work. The cursor flashes in the terminal but I can't type anything
[03:02] <kernelhack> Rickb: no i can't say i have ever experienced that.
[03:02] <kernelhack> is it physical machine or inside a virtual machine?
[03:02] <rafid> kernelhack:i can nano but how to write code
[03:03] <Rickb> Kernelhack, it is in a terminal window
[03:03] <kernelhack> rafid: perhaps search your favorite search engine and get some examples.
[03:03] <kernelhack> rafid: questions like "how to code" are not generic and can not be answered with one line answers like that.
[03:04] <kernelhack> Rickb: odd. tried a different k/board?
[03:04] <bumnit> Hey can soemone help me with installing a program on ubuntu, I keep getting this error, http://pastebin.com/5eWJi9nE.
[03:04] <Rickb> Kernelhack, I'm using a laptop.
[03:04] <bumnit> someone*
[03:05] <kernelhack> odd. did it work before.
[03:05] <kernelhack> ?
[03:05] <Ben64> bumnit: what are you installing, and how
[03:06] <kernelhack> Ben42: have you tried the suggested "apt-get -f install" command?
[03:06] <kernelhack> bumnit: have you tried the suggested "apt-get -f install" command?
[03:06] <bumnit> I am trying to install  SDL v1.2 libraries for a game.
[03:07] <bumnit> Yes I have run that command and i get this error,http://pastebin.com/viZxhKj9
[03:08] <Ben64> bumnit: ok you answered 50% of my questions
[03:08] <kernelhack> bumnit: it seems kernel related.
[03:08] <bumnit> What have I not answered?
[03:09] <kernelhack> like a kernel upgrade has not completed.
[03:09] <bumnit> Ben64: What have I not answered.
[03:09] <bumnit> kernelhack: I ran the command apt-get update and upgrade and i got the same error with the -f
[03:09] <Ben64> bumnit: what are you installing, and how
[03:10] <bumnit> SDL v1.2 but let me get the exact commands I have been trying.
[03:11] <dgarstang> Tomcat7 on Ubuntu 14.04... CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME are _BOTH_ set to /usr/share/tomcat7. Is this normal?
[03:11] <rafid> kernelhack:how can i play open source and know ubuntu is open source
[03:12] <bumnit> Ben64: "sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian libsdl-image1.2 zlib1g libogg0 libvorbis0a libopenal1 libcurl3"
[03:12] <rafid> kernelhack:how can i play with open source and know ubuntu is open source
[03:12] <Flannel> dgarstang: I hope you're also asking in #tomcat, they're more likely to know what 'normal' is for configuring tomcat.
[03:12] <bumnit> and followed this tutorial as well, http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/01/how-to-install-sdl-12-simple.html
[03:12] <bumnit> it always ends in that -f thing
[03:13] <Ben64> bumnit: well we can't help  you with manually installed stuff like that
[03:13] <bumnit> and when I run the game(assaultcube) it says i need to install the sdl v1.2
[03:13] <bumnit> ok but the error is with the kernal as kernalhack said right?
[03:13] <leetking> when i try to build the kernel 3.18.3 that from kernel.org ,i do 'make install', after 'make modes_install', but it print a error 'gzip: stdout: No space left on device'
[03:13] <bumnit> i cant do an upgrade either without getting that error.
[03:13] <Ben64> bumnit: nope, probably that you overwrote files
[03:14] <Ben64> leetking: so free some space
[03:14] <leetking> but i have 1.2G free
[03:15] <Ben64> not wherever you currently are
[03:15] <bumnit> Ben64: I cant run apt-get upgrade either with out getting "Unmet dependencies. Try using -f." error and then broken pipe when i do that.
[03:15] <Ben64> bumnit: yep
[03:15] <QuantumVacuum> Hello all. I'm running Ubuntu 15.04 with gnome. When I move my cursor to the very top of the screen, it disappears. Any ideas?
[03:16] <QuantumVacuum> not gnome, sorry, unity
[03:16] <kernelhack> bumnit: you are going to have to get dirty with dpkg and force removal of the stubborn packages.
[03:16] <kernelhack> bumnit: might require some tail chasing of deps, but you will get it eventually.
[03:16] <leetking> Ben64: the error 'http://paste.ubuntu.com/11639409/'
[03:16] <Ben64> kernelhack: bad idea
[03:16] <kernelhack> Ben42: why you say that?
[03:17] <kernelhack> Ben64: why?
[03:17] <bumnit> leetking: 1.2G probably is not enough space..
[03:17] <Ben64> because the problem is manually installed software, not the normal packages
[03:17] <apoplexy> what do you guys think about elementary.io ?
[03:17] <apoplexy> is it similar to ubuntu?
[03:17] <Ben64> apoplexy: still not supported here
[03:17] <apoplexy> Ben64: my mom is not supported here
[03:17] <kernelhack> Ben64: can still be manually removed with dpkg.
[03:17] <Ben64> apoplexy: correct
[03:17] <leetking> oh
[03:18] <kernelhack> installed manually or not.
[03:18] <Ben64> kernelhack: incorrect
[03:18] <leetking> tks
[03:18] <kernelhack> Ben64: again, why you say that?
[03:19] <kernelhack> I have done it many times in the past.
[03:19] <Ben64> because you're not looking at the issue here
[03:19] <Ben64> bumnit followed a guide from january 2012 made for 11.04 and 11.10, did it on 14.04 and overwrote some stuff, and thats causing important packages to have problems.
[03:20] <kernelhack> i seriously doubt anyone is going to rectify it without removing that packages causing the problems in the first place. it's simple conflicts which need resolving.
[03:20] <apoplexy> Ben64: would you help me get ubuntu if i wanted to scrap elementary.io
[03:20] <apoplexy> what are the most popular flavours of linux?
[03:20] <kernelhack> apoplexy: depends who you ask.
[03:20] <Ben64> kernelhack: except the packages complaining are not the ones he installed manually, you really need to look at the information that was posted
[03:20] <bumnit> Ben64: i followed that guide long after I have been getting the errors.
[03:20] <leetking> how much space it needs at last
[03:20] <apoplexy> kernelhack: whats your answer?
[03:21] <Ben64> bumnit: you said you follow the guide, and it ends with the problem
[03:21] <kernelhack> apoplexy: opinion = probably ubuntu. but that's not to state it's the best.
[03:21] <apoplexy> kernelhack: what do you think is the best?
[03:21] <kernelhack> Ben64: no but it's giving you a clean start.
[03:22] <jeeves_moss> how do I install chipmunk?
[03:22] <Ben64> apoplexy: this is the ubuntu support channel, ask ##linux for advice on choosing a distro
[03:22] <apoplexy> Ben64: what about elementary
[03:22] <kernelhack> apoplexy: best is determined by a specific users needs and requirement. there is no generic answer.
[03:22] <Ben64> #elementary is their support channel
[03:23] <bumnit> Ben64: No i tried installing that after I installed the first one and got the errors, First i downloaded game .tar and extracted. then installed libraries, gave me that apt-get -f error tried runnign game and said needed sdl 1.2. ran -f comand and got broken pipe...
[03:24] <Ben64> bumnit: why not "sudo apt-get install assaultcube"
[03:24] <bumnit> tried update and upgrade got same error then treid that tutuorial latter in hopes to manualy install sdl. but didnt change anything.
[03:25] <bumnit> That is the old version of assaultcube
[03:25] <bumnit> no longer supported
[03:25] <bumnit> the new one is only available manualy
[03:25] <kernelhack> as good as ubuntu repos are, sometimes you will find this is the case. old/outdated packages.
[03:26] <Ben64> well you followed a tutorial from 2012
[03:26] <bumnit> True, if i could upgrade i can check for new ones but tahts giving me the -f error also
[03:26] <Ben64> so... undo all that, then come back
[03:27] <kernelhack> bumnit: go back through dpkg logs and have a look what exactly happened.
[03:28] <kernelhack> just use cat
[03:29] <meshuggah> bumnit : http://www.playdeb.net/software/assaultcube
[03:34] <apoplexy> Ben64: my elementary is not working
[03:34] <bumnit> This looks like the problem: http://pastebin.com/ctsNQUNm
[03:34] <apoplexy> im considering getting ubuntu
[03:34] <apoplexy> :]
[03:35] <apoplexy> im assuming a noob could come here and ask support questions?
[03:35] <bumnit> What is the linux image?
[03:35] <Ben64> apoplexy: about ubuntu, the questions can come from someone with any amount of skill
[03:35] <histo> apoplexy: yes
[03:35] <apoplexy> ok
[03:35] <Ben64> bumnit: the kernel
[03:35] <apoplexy> ubuntu would be a solid 1st flavour for a linux noob i assume?
[03:35] <histo> apoplexy: you could say so
[03:36] <apoplexy> when people try diferent flavours, do the commands carry over from flavour to flavour?
[03:36] <apoplexy> or is everything completely different
[03:36] <bumnit> Ben64: So a kernal upgrade didnt install fully?
[03:36] <Ben64> apoplexy: they're all linux, so they have a lot in common
[03:36] <Ben64> bumnit: possibly
[03:37] <apoplexy> ok Ben64, thank you. btw im not a troll :] i've recently gotten into learning how to code and really want to step my computer knowledge game up
[03:37] <bumnit> Is there a way to fix that?
[03:37] <Ben64> apoplexy: i didn't say you were
[03:38] <Ben64> bumnit: pastebin the outputs of "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:38] <Alkalino> hello! I typed "unity" in terminal, now the wallpaper is blank xD how do I fix that ? :D
[03:39] <bumnit> Sure, and is there a way i can search and delte all of that linux-image-3.13.0-53-generic file then re run the upgrade?
[03:39] <Ben64> bumnit: wait till we find the problem
[03:40] <john_doe_jr1> When I connect I use a ssh -y username@host for x11 forwarding…is there any way I can put this in my ssh config file?
[03:45] <dgarstang> Tomcat7 on Ubuntu 14.04... CATALINA_BASE and CATALINA_HOME are _BOTH_ set to /usr/share/tomcat7. Is this normal?
[03:47] <bumnit> Ben64: here you go: http://pastebin.com/6SszUK2d
[03:48] <Ben64> bumnit: now "sudo apt-get install linux-image-extra-3.13.0-53-generic linux-image-3.13.0-53-generic linux-image-generic"
[03:51] <bumnit> This ones intresting.. http://pastebin.com/tKdsxUUd
[03:52] <zorlac> hello all
[03:53] <bumnit> Ben64: This ones intresting.. http://pastebin.com/tKdsxUUd
[03:53] <Ben64> bumnit: what did you do with linux-image-generic
[03:53] <Ben64> oh, and you need to clear space
[03:53] <histo> zorlac: hello
[03:54] <zorlac> hey i found something strange in my apache logs, i was wonding if anyone in here could help me and maybe tell me what it is
[03:54] <zorlac> website.com:80 1.170.9.10 - - [08/Jun/2015:14:49:40 +1200] "P\xf4\x9b\x1f\x81~/\xfa\xbc\xbbS\xa4\x97\xb8\xdd9\xfda,{\xads\v\xeaPtAI\x86\xd4\xec8\xe6\xa7\x81\xcd+\xd7|\x01X\x17\xca\rl" 400 0 "-" "-"
[03:54] <zorlac> Hey histo
[03:54] <Ben64> bots trying to exploit stuff
[03:54] <EriC^> zorlac: looks like shell code
[03:54] <zorlac> that what i thought
[03:55] <zorlac> anyway of figuring out what it is? or trying ot do?
[03:55] <Ben64> not worth it usually
[03:56] <zorlac> fairenough
[03:56] <histo> zorlac: someone trying to exploit
[03:58] <Bumnit_> Ben64: Sorry my irc client crashed.
[03:59] <Ben64> Bumnit_: you need to free up some space
[03:59] <Bumnit_> Ben64: oh right, I have 584gb free.
[03:59] <Ben64> not on /boot probably
[03:59] <Bumnit_> Ben64: its on the same hard drive?
[03:59] <Ben64> pastebin the output of "df -h"
[04:00] <histo> Bumnit_: sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:01] <Bumnit_> a
[04:01] <Bumnit_> "/dev/sda1                  228M  222M     0 100% /boot"
[04:01] <Ben64> yep
[04:01] <Bumnit_> Why is it not using the 500+gigs available?
[04:01] <Ben64> because you made a partition for /boot, and made it 228MB
[04:02] <Bumnit_> Can I Increase the partition size?
[04:02] <Ben64> possibly, or you can remove old kernels using the command histo said
[04:03] <netcom> hola
[04:04] <dupingping> hi everyone,
[04:05] <EriC^> Bumnit_: you can always just use /boot on the same partition if you don't mind losing the 228mb partition
[04:05] <EriC^> 228mb is pretty tiny
[04:05] <Bumnit_> I get this error with the auto-remote command: http://pastebin.com/B2eLeCkA
[04:05] <Bumnit_> Yeah I dont know why I did that.
[04:05] <dupingping> who knows about self-extractor?
[04:05] <dupingping> who knows about self-extractor on ELF?
[04:06] <Bumnit_> I see the files linus image generic files in the boot folder , i could try deleteing them manualy
[04:06] <Bumnit_> linux*
[04:06] <lucas> hi
[04:06] <histo> Bumnit_: does it remove the packages?
[04:06] <ls007> duplicate mount points are created for the external hard drive whenever the computer goes to sleep mode. any solution .
[04:07] <Bumnit_> histo: the auto-remove command? That is everything it did on the patebin. dont think it removed them.
[04:08] <EriC^> Bumnit_: try sudo apt-get -f install
[04:09] <EriC^> maybe it can't write the config files for the new kernels, you can manually delete a couple old vmlinuz and initrd files
[04:09] <EriC^> and then use sudo apt-get purge <kernel> to completely remove them
[04:09] <Bumnit_> EriC^: We have already tried that. Thats the whole problem im having.http://pastebin.com/viZxhKj9
[04:10] <Bumnit_> belive that commands not working becuase there is not enough space in the partition.
[04:10] <EriC^> yeah, so delete a couple vmlinuz and initrd to have enough space
[04:10] <EriC^> then purge them properly
[04:11] <xentity1x> hey can anyone help me figure out how to get ubuntu to detect my alternate minitor
[04:11] <Bumnit_> I see a bunch of "initrd.img-3.13.0-39-generic" files in there I could possibly delete but it looks like there are cfg files with it and not sure which ones go with what
[04:11] <xentity1x> monitor
[04:11] <Ben64> Bumnit_: just delete the oldest, biggest files
[04:11] <EriC^> Bumnit_: delete the initrd and vmlinuz of the old kernel so you have enough space
[04:12] <EriC^> Bumnit_: nevermind the config files
[04:13] <Bumnit_> well I deleted all of them....
[04:13] <Ben64> don't restart then....
[04:13] <EriC^> ok, type sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[04:15] <Bashing-om> EriC^: Bumnit_ I have had good success with 'dpkg -P linux-image-3XXXX " when /boot is at capacity .
[04:15] <Bumnit_> http://pastebin.com/7jL3Jx60
[04:16] <gzcwnk> o^O
[04:16] <Ben64> didn't delete enough?
[04:16] <Ben64> Bumnit_: whats the line from 'df -h' now
[04:16] <Bumnit_> delted a lost, but still at 100%...
[04:17] <Ben64> how did you delete
[04:20] <Bumnit_> Ben64: opend nautilus as root and deleted files
[04:20] <histo> hopefully only the old kernels
[04:20] <Bumnit_> histo: oops
[04:20] <EriC^> Bumnit_: using shift + delete ?
[04:20] <Bumnit_> EriC^: just delete
[04:20] <histo> Bumnit_: did you delete everything in /boot?
[04:21] <EriC^> look for .Trash-0 in /boot
[04:21] <Bumnit_> histo:  no just all the kernels
[04:21] <EriC^> press ctrl+h it might show up
[04:21] <Ben64> Bumnit_: you shouldn't open nautilus as root
[04:22] <Bumnit_> Ben64: why not?
[04:22] <FantastiquePlast> Does the latest version of Ubuntu still have integrated search with Amazon.com?
[04:22] <QuantumVacuum> 15.04 does :(
[04:22] <Ben64> Bumnit_: because you shouldn't
[04:22] <QuantumVacuum> well I should have reserved my judgement
[04:23] <ls007>  duplicate mount points are created for the external hard drive whenever my computer returns from the sleep mode. any way to solve this problem ?
[04:24] <EriC^> ls007: what do you mean by duplicate mount points?
[04:25] <EriC^> 2 mountpoints in /media/user/.. ?
[04:26] <ls007> like , my if the directory for the hard drive is 'My Passport' in /media/ then a new folder is created named 'My Passport1'. the old folder stops working.
[04:26] <Bumnit_> Ben64: sorry. Ok so delete permenantly the files from trash and put latest kernal back in boot. Now patition is at 35%
[04:26] <EriC^> ls007: in /media or /media/user ?
[04:26] <ls007> in /media/user
[04:26] <histo> Bumnit_: including the running kernel?
[04:27] <Bumnit_> histo: idk what the running kernel is.
[04:27] <EriC^> ^ good idea
[04:27] <EriC^> type uname -r
[04:27] <histo> Bumnit_: no apt-get autoremove and reinstall the current kernel
[04:27] <histo> s/no/now/
[04:27] <ls007> when again the computer recovers from the sleep mode then again new folder is created named ' My Passport2' .
[04:28] <Bumnit_> histo: autoremove still get apt-get -f error should I run it?
[04:28] <EriC^> ls007: did you modify anything with the program disks ?
[04:28] <histo> Bumnit_: you can now
[04:28] <ls007> no
[04:29] <EriC^> ls007: try typing disks in the dash and click on the partition and the cog below it and edit mount options
[04:29] <Bumnit_> looks like its working...
[04:31] <ls007> ok
[04:32] <ls007> automatic mount point is on , what should i edit ?
[04:33] <EriC^> ls007: same here
[04:33] <EriC^> which de are you using?
[04:33] <EriC^> nevermind
[04:33] <Bumnit_> Ok it did something this time but still gave me an error.. http://pastebin.com/JPHWXRwz
[04:34] <Bumnit_> and my boot partition only went up to 50%
[04:34] <EriC^> ls007: what mount options do you have?
[04:34] <EriC^> ls007: mine has this nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show
[04:34] <Bumnit_> Ben64: histo ^^
[04:35] <ls007> ya same here , but automatic mount is on
[04:36] <EriC^> Bumnit_: type uname -r please
[04:36] <Bumnit_> EriC^: 3.13.0-46-generic
[04:37] <Bumnit_> EriC^: which is the one i left in the boot folder
[04:38] <EriC^> ok, type sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic +linux-image-3.13.0-46-generic
[04:39] <Bumnit_> EriC^: http://pastebin.com/sXrNWrPu
[04:40] <thatkid> How can I install gnome-sound-applet?
[04:41] <EriC^> Bumnit_: ok, try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic
[04:42] <Bumnit_> EriC^: http://pastebin.com/2xAdTCAm
[04:43] <EriC^> Bumnit_: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.13.0-52-generic
[04:43] <EriC^> then try to purge it again
[04:44] <Bumnit_> ok, it installed..
[04:45] <EriC^> ok try purging again
[04:45] <thatkid> How can I install gnome-sound-applet? i couldn't find the package for it
[04:45] <Bumnit_> and purged..
[04:45] <Bumnit_> done
[04:45] <EriC^> Bumnit_: ok, type dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[04:45] <EriC^> Bumnit_: do you have pastebinit?
[04:46] <linuxuz3r> anyone developing for steam
[04:46] <Bumnit_> EriC^: what?
[04:46] <EriC^> Bumnit_: it's a program that pastes stuff
[04:46] <EriC^> like dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[04:46] <EriC^> and it gives you a link to where it's pasted
[04:47] <Bumnit_> no I just use the website
[04:47] <Bumnit_> EriC^: http://pastebin.com/f060cpY4
[04:49] <EriC^> Bumnit_: ok, does sudo apt-get autoremove remove them?
[04:50] <Bumnit_> looks like its removing them
[04:51] <Bumnit_> or not.. bunch of errors.
[04:52] <Bumnit_> maybe,, im not sure.
[04:52] <EriC^> Bumnit_: try Bashing-om 's command
[04:52] <EriC^> sudo dpkg -P <linux-image-....>
[04:53] <uncle_ben> i just ran btrfs filesystem defragment -v -c -r -f and at the end it printed, "total 1 failures."  where do i find more information about this failure?
[04:54] <Bumnit_> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11640969/
[04:57] <Bashing-om> EriC^: What are your thoughts ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' ??
[04:57] <Bumnit_> EriC^: for all or should i leave the latest?
[04:57] <EriC^> Bashing-om: -f 3 or -f2?
[04:59] <EriC^> hmm f3 works here, but it's the 2nd field
[04:59] <EriC^> *shrug*
[04:59] <Bumnit_> if I have to uninstall each one seperatly i will. just want to get it working.
[04:59] <Bashing-om> EriC^: I think we want the 3rd field . But, but, not sure what will result for sure with the state the package manager in presently .
[04:59] <EriC^> Bashing-om: sounds like a good idea
[05:00] <Bumnit_> should they all be removed or should i leave certian ones?
[05:00] <pavlos> Bumnit_, I wrote an article a year ago, it may help ... http://azloco.org/node/183
[05:00] <Bashing-om> EriC^: I hope if worst comes to worst we can individually re-install an old kernel and then purge it .
[05:01] <EriC^> Bumnit_: try Bashing-om 's command
[05:02] <Bumnit_> "all but the newest two newest"
[05:05] <Bumnit_> how do i view which one im currently using again?
[05:06] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: 'uname -r '
[05:06] <Bumnit_> thx
[05:07] <Bumnit_> it says im using 46 and 53 is the latest in the list. should i remove 53,46 both all?
[05:08] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: I think we should hold what we have and focus on fixing what is broke .
[05:08] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: Is this not fixing it?
[05:10] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Working on it ... let's see a current status ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[05:12] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641174/
[05:12] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: I can try running my original command and install a program if you think it will work now?
[05:15] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Patience; This is what happens when we go behind the package managers back. Now we have to straighten things back up and make the package manager happy . I be back in a tic look'n at the latest "dpkg" .
[05:15] <Bumnit_> kk
[05:22] <anshprat> hi, the stable ruby in trusty is still 1.9.3-p484, whereas ruby 1.9.3 has been EOL'ed https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2015/02/23/support-for-ruby-1-9-3-has-ended/
[05:22] <anshprat> ruby2.0 still brings in ruby as dependency :!
[05:22] <dgarstang> This is INSANE. How the hell do you debug tomcat7 not deploying a war file?
[05:25] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Not real bad, what have we left ' ls -al /lib/modules/ | pastebinit ' ?
[05:25] <Bumnit_> I dont have pastebinit
[05:26] <rafid> i want to understand ubuntu open source
[05:27] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641532/
[05:28] <dgarstang> This is INSANE. How the hell do you debug tomcat7 not deploying a war file?
[05:29] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641532/. I am crafting up our next sequence of events.
[05:29] <Bumnit_> thats alright, im backing up important files...
[05:33] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: So far 2 modules to work/remove, OK, what about the headers ? show ' ls -al /usr/src | pastebinit ' .
[05:34] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641601/
[05:34] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: What kernel are you presently booting ?
[05:35] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: 3.13.0-46-generic
[05:35] <mulch> mulch
[05:36] <mulch> hi
[05:36] <mulch> anyone here?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> mulch: 1600 users are
[05:37] <mulch> 29/m bored anyone wanna chat
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !ot | mulch
[05:45] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: ' sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-52 ; sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-52-generic ; sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.13.0-52-generic ;  sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.2.0-23-generic-pae ; sudo rm /boot/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-39-generic ;  sudo rm /boot/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-40-generic ;  sudo rm /boot/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-43-generic ; sudo rm /boot/linux-image-extra-3.13.0-44-generic ; sudo apt-get -f install .
[05:46] <Bumnit_> o.O
[05:48] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641711/
[05:48] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Yeah, took a bit of time to finger that out too ! One more to go when ya run all that .
[05:49] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641711/
[05:50] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: All right. I am not surprised at not found . Did 'apt-get -f install' complete ?
[05:57] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: sorry didnt see your post, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11641966/
[05:58] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_:  K ;
[05:59] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Look'n Good ! .. Ok ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' . and then maybe a bit of clean up .
[06:01] <Bumnit_> its doing stuff that looks somewhat correct :D
[06:02] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: May take a bit of time 248 updates ! patience .
[06:02] <Bumnit_> ik but its actualy updating for once, im excited.
[06:04] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: :) ; I know that feeling !
[06:10] <Bumnit_> uh oh.. it froze on conecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <hetakuso> It seems that lightdm doesn't set X authorization (cookie method) by default, is that correct?
[06:12] <Bumnit_> D: its not moving
[06:12] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: We wait . and fingers crossed .
[06:17] <Bumnit_> ha it moved! phew
[06:18] <Bumnit_> alright nap time.
[06:18] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Uh Huh .. long past my nap time, But I just got to know !
[06:19] <Bumnit_> yeah, what time is it there anyways?
[06:19] <Bashing-om> I be at GMT -6 ,, it be 01:19 here .
[06:20] <Bumnit_> same here :/
[06:20] <Bumnit_> wait am or pm?
[06:21] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: It be the AM in the night . Ya going to miss yer beauty sleep ?
[06:21] <Bumnit_> lol, yeah same its am. thanks for staying up and helping me tho.
[06:21] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: You said it was important !
[06:22] <Bumnit_> it is.
[06:22] <Bumnit_> Thats why im up at 1 am on monday to fix it.
[06:25] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: :) ; Just a bit of cleanup ( we hope, hope, hope ) .
[06:26] <tristian> anyone want to teach a newbie how to compile and exactly what is needed to execute make make install
[06:27] <harishkrupo> tristian, there is no 'exact' method or dependencies for make and make install
[06:27] <harishkrupo> tristian, it depends on what you have in your system
[06:27] <harishkrupo> tristian, but the general procedure is ./configure , make and make install
[06:28] <tristian> been tryin to get BIMP  in Gimp
[06:28] <VTS> Tristam, there shuold be a README in the sources that tell you what to do
[06:28] <tristian> they suck and didnt tell me where to put anything
[06:28] <harishkrupo> ./configure will print out all the dependencies that are required but not installed
[06:28] <Bumnit_> what exactly is ./configure and make make install doing. setting configuration settings in os somewhere?
[06:28] <harishkrupo> and always read the Readme first
[06:28] <VTS> tristian what do you mean 'put anything'?
[06:29] <Bumnit_> nvm idc
[06:29] <harishkrupo> ./configure will check for dependencies that the programs requires like gcc, g++ libraries...
[06:29] <tristian> abt to try
[06:29] <harishkrupo> ./configure will create a make file if it succeeds to find everything
[06:30] <harishkrupo> make will read the makefile and compile the source code
[06:31] <harishkrupo> and make install (install is a target) will read the makefile and install the compiled programs
[06:31] <VTS> tristian, looks like you just "make && make install": http://kosiara87.blogspot.fi/2014/07/ubuntu-1404-install-bimp-batch-image.html
[06:31] <tristian> sounds easy
[06:32] <tristian> not used to linux yet sorry jus left windows
[06:32] <tristian> so the comand is slowing me down
[06:32] <VTS> tristian, that's why there's this channel - so you can ask ;)
[06:33] <tristian> i love u guys at night
[06:33] <tristian> the day people make me feel so dumb maybe i am but i shouldnt feel that way online for pete sakes
[06:34] <tristian> well brb tryin to fig the next line
[06:34] <harishkrupo> day people? it is day in my place
[06:34] <VTS> 9:34am here too
[06:34] <tristian> its night here in Houston Tx
[06:34] <tristian> sorry
[06:34] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Status ? still doing updates ?
[06:34] <VTS> lol Texas
[06:35] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: still updaiting away.
[06:35] <Bumnit_> I dont think i will be putting this into a paste for you, lol.
[06:35] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: patience Bashing-om !
[06:36] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Ha ha . All I want to know is the bottom line ... all 0's .
[06:37] <Bumnit_> wow I never knew this many updates was possible. guess my automatic updates werent working.
[06:38] <Bumnit_> hey its done!
[06:38] <Bumnit_> no errors! D
[06:39] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om:
[06:40] <tristian> no such file or directory
[06:40] <tristian> and i know i put it there
[06:40] <tristian> super frustrated
[06:40] <VTS> tristian, after which command, in which directory, after which a couple of lines.. :D
[06:41] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: it worked
[06:41] <tristian> the root i think
[06:41] <tristian> gonna take a break guys
[06:41] <tristian> ill be bak later thanks
[06:41] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Making good progress, Let's do : ' sudo update-grub ' and then show me that the links to the kernels now exist : 'ls -al / | pastebinit ' .
[06:43] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root         33 Jun  7 23:29 initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-53-generic
[06:43] <Bumnit_> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root         30 Jun  7 23:29 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-53-generic
[06:44] <VTS> that's one old kernel
[06:44] <Bumnit_> 53 is the new one
[06:44] <VTS> yea, but 3.13.x
[06:45] <Bumnit_> i was on 2.3 or something earlier
[06:48] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Outstanding, looking good, cleanup time ! ' sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' .
[06:48] <weet> As a new user is it best to go with 14.04.2 LTS or is 15.04 fine?
[06:49] <Ben64> i'd go with 14.04, since its LTS, but its up to you
[06:49] <weet> wont be doing anything too hardcore with it, always used windows
[06:49] <weet> so yeah 14.04 it is thank you
[06:49] <Bashing-om> weet: "As a new user' Go fro 14.04 .. Long term support .. stable !
[06:49] <weet> thanks
[06:49] <Ben64> 14.04 is supported until April 2019
[06:49] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: all done. no problems.
[06:49] <Ben64> 15.04 is supported until January 2016
[06:51] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Great .. happy trails to you .. and let's not do this again .. keep up with the updates and keep the package manager in a happy happy state of mind !
[06:52] <Bumnit_> no more installing kernals when boot is full?
[06:52] <Bumnit_> how do i check what kernal im using?
[06:52] <Bumnit_> usomething
[06:52] <Bumnit_> -r
[06:52] <VTS> uname -a
[06:53] <Bumnit_> close enough
[06:53] <VTS> well, -r just brings the version part
[06:53] <VTS> -a is everything
[06:53] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: When you install a new kernel do: ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' to remove the old kernels .
[06:53] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows how to increase network link bandwith ?
[06:53] <Bumnit_> 3.13.0-46-generic #79-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 10 20:08:14 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux should i restart?
[06:54] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: Yeah , reboot .. I have seen it take 2 // and you should come up on the -53 kernel .
[06:55] <blackflow> kokut: isn't it auto-configured for maximum?
[06:55] <PCatinean> Hello everyone
[06:56] <VTS> Helloooo
[06:56] <ubuntu791> hello
[06:56] <PCatinean> Any advice on what is the best way to get the latest skye working on Ubuntu with everything working (Camera, Screenshare etc)
[06:56] <PCatinean> ?
[06:57] <PCatinean> Download from site and install .deb?
[06:57] <ubuntu791> how can i get my bleuthoot wrking on ubuntu 15.04 gnome 64 ?
[06:57] <ubuntu791> i can't find any topic on that issue
[06:58] <kokut> blackflow: its set to 100mb/s and i've got 300
[06:59] <xangua> PCatinean: the recommended way is to enable the partner repository and install it from the software centre
[06:59] <xangua> !partner
[06:59] <kokut> i'm trying sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full autoneg off and it says "Invalid argument" :\
[06:59] <PCatinean> Okay then if that is the recommended way I will do that, thank you xangua !
[07:01] <PCatinean> xangua, isn't it the one I ticked in the repositories int he gui named Canonical?
[07:01] <PCatinean> Strangely enough it appears in apt-cache search skype but not in software center
[07:01] <ubuntu791> how can i get my bleuthoot wrking on ubuntu 15.04 gnome 64 ? hp laptop
[07:01] <ubuntu791> please help
[07:03] <Bumnit_> Bashing-om: Ha! it finaly works perfectly, thank you so much. Your a life saver.
[07:04] <blackflow> kokut: for some reason it's limited to 100MBps. which NIC is that? Upstream router limiting link-level options?
[07:04] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: I am breaking my arm patting myself on the back .
[07:04] <kokut> blackflow: no, i'm on ubuntu, the other computers in the network are already configured
[07:05] <Bumnit_> haha, well goodnight!
[07:05] <Bashing-om> Bumnit_: :) rest well .. come back more often; we do have fun here .
[07:06] <blackflow> kokut: pastebin 'ethtool eth0'
[07:07] <kokut> blackflow:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
[07:07] <rhagu> Hi, can I trust this software to connect with my ubuntu computer: http://tightvnc.com/download-old.php  ?
[07:07] <harishkrupo_> trust?
[07:08] <blackflow> kokut: which NIC is that?
[07:08] <kokut> Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
[07:08] <kokut> blackflow: Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full   100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full  does this mean that i'm not able to use the 300mb?
[07:08] <blackflow> kokut: apparently. which NIC is that?
[07:09] <harishkrupo> kokut, yes
[07:10] <harishkrupo> kokut, lspci -v, this will give you the name and model of you ethernet card
[07:10] <blackflow> lspci | grep -i eth    is ehough
[07:11] <marlinc> My system can't resolve hostnames in my /etc/hosts its a Ubuntu Desktop 15.04 installation
[07:11] <blackflow> marlinc: pastebin an example
[07:12] <kokut> blackflow: Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150
[07:12] <marlinc> Of what exactly?
[07:12] <marlinc> A DNS lookup?
[07:12] <marlinc> And the matching hosts file entry?
[07:13] <blackflow> marlinc: for instance, yes
[07:13] <marlinc> https://gist.github.com/Marlinc/64bfdbf3e9cea682eadc
[07:13] <blackflow> kokut: well it's wifi, you've got maximum there already. in fact, I doubt you'll get over 50Mbps in practice
[07:14] <kokut> blackflow: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[07:15] <blackflow> kokut: that's more like it, I was kinda confused you've got wifi at eth0
[07:15] <blackflow> marlinc: I don't think nslookup considers /etc/hosts
[07:15] <blackflow> can you ping the host or otherwise access it?
[07:16] <marlinc> Pinging does work
[07:16] <blackflow> marlinc: so resolving works okay
[07:16] <blackflow> (if you pinged by name?)
[07:17] <marlinc> Yes, I pinged by the hostname
[07:17] <blackflow> marlinc: there.
[07:17] <marlinc> Chrome does work sometimes, but not always
[07:17] <marlinc> Do you know of any way to fix it? Because it has always worked
[07:17] <blackflow> marlinc: yeah, I've noticed that Chromium sometimes does its own DNS or something... well, what else do you expect from spyware :)
[07:19] <VTS> Chromium = spyware
[07:19] <VTS> that's funny
[07:20] <ubuntu791> how can i get my bleuthoot wrking on ubuntu 15.04 gnome 64 ? hp laptop
[07:21] <ubuntu791> No adapters found
[07:22] <blackflow> kokut: according to the docs for RTL8101E, that's a 10/100Base-T card, ie. 100MBps is all you can get
[07:23] <kokut> blackflow: its fine i guess, ty
[07:29] <bindi> 100MB is a lot :-)
[07:30] <bindi> especially per second
[07:32] <johndave> hi to all good afternoon
[07:33] <blackflow> bindi: regardless of the B typo, it's still bits :)  the convention for MB per second is MB/s
[07:35] <johndave> anybody can help me? this is always my problem every time i upgrade my system from fresh install disqus comment or website do not load. such as blogger.com and disqus
[07:36] <johndave> but before I do apt-get upgrade it was still working I can browser blogger and disqus
[07:36] <leeyaa> hello
[07:37] <johndave> and when I upgrade my system It doesn' work anymore
[07:37] <hey> aaaa~
[07:37] <johndave> hi leeyaa
[07:37] <ikonia> johndave: whats the actual problem ?
[07:38] <johndave> ikonia, OK here it, when I upgrade my system some websites do not load, example blogger.com or disqus comment box do not load.
[07:38] <PCatinean> ikonia, yesterday worked, apparently the automatic partitioning system allocates the number of physical memory to swap and the rest just one partition ext4
[07:39] <ikonia> johndave: define do not load
[07:39] <ikonia> PCatinean: ok ?
[07:39] <johndave> ikonia, but before I do apt-get upgrade, everything is working fine
[07:39] <ikonia> johndave: define do not load
[07:39] <PCatinean> just wanted to mention that
[07:39] <ikonia> mention what ?
[07:39] <johndave> ikonia, uhm the full website do not appear...
[07:39] <ikonia> johndave: does any of the website appear ?
[07:39] <blackflow> johndave: stupid question, but, do you restart the browser after upgrade?
[07:39] <johndave> ikonia, sorry my english is terrible
[07:40] <hey> So,try another browser?
[07:40] <ikonia> johndave: what is the error you get when you try to open one of the broken websites ?
[07:41] <johndave> ikonia, yes other website appear like my favorite site gsmarena or mynokiablog, but If i am going to comment disqus commentbox does not appear...
[07:41] <johndave> blackflow, yes I did restart and still the same
[07:41] <ikonia> johndave: can you give me a link to one of the broken URL's please
[07:42] <johndave> hey, i already tried firefox and google chrome
[07:42] <johndave> ikonia go to mynokiablog.com then click any article, then scroll to disqus commentbox,
[07:43] <ikonia> johndave: can you please take a screenshot
[07:43] <hey> download some large files,is works?
[07:44] <ikonia> johndave: lets see what you see
[07:44] <johndave> hey, yes i can download large files, i even downloaded firefox recently and also installed dropbox
[07:44] <ikonia> johndave: downloaded firefox ?
[07:44] <ikonia> firefox is managed by the ubuntu package manager
[07:45] <johndave> ikonia, yes I downloaded firefox.
[07:45] <blackflow> well that explains it.
[07:45] <ikonia> johndave: is that the version of firefox you are using ?
[07:45] <johndave> yes It is from ubuntu package manager
[07:45] <crazyhorse18> if i go ls -b /some/dir/*.tar.gz   and i get a single file back, how can i untar it in one line?
[07:46] <johndave> ikonia, should i remove it?
[07:46] <crazyhorse18> i tried ls -b /some/dir/*.tar.gz | tar zxvf   but it didn't work
[07:46] <ikonia> crazyhorse18: | tar xv
[07:46] <ikonia> johndave: no
[07:46] <johndave> ok
[07:46] <blackflow> crazyhorse18:   | xargs tar xzvf
[07:47] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: "find /some/dir -name '*.tar.gz' -exec {} \; "
[07:47] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: typo! "find /some/dir -name '*.tar.gz' -exec tar xvf {} \; "
[07:47] <johndave> ikonia, my laptop is not old, this was even my problem with my ancient laptop.....
[07:47] <leeyaa> i have this short script to start/stop a nodejs application using start-stop-daemon http://paste.ubuntu.com/11643341/ i would like to redirect stderr and stdout to a log file i tried with 1>>$APPLOG_FILE 2>>$ERRLOG_FILE but it is not working
[07:47] <ikonia> johndave: can you please take a screen shot, so we can see what you see
[07:47] <leeyaa> what am i missing here ?
[07:48] <TJ-> johndave: Are you behind a HTTP proxy, maybe in a country with a restrictive network policies?
[07:48] <crazyhorse18> blackflow that worked
[07:49] <blackflow> crazyhorse18: but the find command that TJ- gave is actually wiser
[07:49] <johndave> ikonia, ok i will take screenshot, TJ, nope i dont use proxy
[07:49] <crazyhorse18> tj: what's the {} do in your command?
[07:49] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: It's part of the 'find' - it is replaced by the name of the matched file
[07:49] <crazyhorse18> ah i see
[07:50] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: see "man find" and "-exec"
[07:50] <crazyhorse18> ok thanks
[07:50] <TJ-> johndave: Do you use browser add-ons such as NoScript which might be resetting and blocking those sites ?
[07:51] <johndave> TJ nope, i only use flashgot add-ons for downloading thats it
[07:51] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: If you want tar to be run in the same directory as the file is found, do: "find /some/dir -name '*.tar.gz' -execdir tar xvf {} \; "
[07:52] <johndave> If i am in windows it is not happening....
[07:52] <TJ-> johndave: OK ... because losing access to only some sites, which are embedded in other sites, sounds very much like some kind of cross-domain blocker is in action
[07:53] <kamel_> Ubuntu is ROCKS!
[07:53] <TJ-> johndave: If you load a page at disqus directly does that work?
[07:54] <johndave> TJ disqus website loads fine, but the disqus commentbox does not...
[07:54] <johndave> does not load
[07:55] <TJ-> johndave: That points even more strongly to having some kind of cross-domain blocking tool
[07:55] <xangua> johndave: do you have noscript addon or similar¿
[07:55] <johndave> xangua, in firefox? no..
[07:56] <TJ-> johndave: You said, I think that this affects both Firefox and Chrome/Chromium on Ubuntu, but only after "apt-get update" when those packages are upgraded?
[07:57] <neetz> How to check memory consumed by the installed packages ( libraries ) package by package in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[07:59] <xangua> whay do you mean by consumed memory neetz¿ do you mean the space they occup in your disk?
[08:00] <johndave> TJ, yes it affects all, Midori, Firefox, chrome after apt-get update upgrade
[08:00] <johndave> TJ i can't even upload my screenshot right now T_T
[08:00] <TJ-> neetz: "PKG=mypackage;  apt-cache show "$PKG" | egrep '^(Package|Installed-Size):' "
[08:01] <TJ-> johndave: That suggests your system *is* behind some kind of filtering proxy
[08:01] <TJ-> johndave: Or else domain name resolution  (DNS) is failing for just those domains
[08:02] <PCatinean> How does one hide windows partition (recovery, C:/ Drive and all) from ubuntu?
[08:02] <PCatinean> So they are not available in nautilius anymore
[08:02] <TJ-> johndave: DNS failure doesn't make sense though, if you can load the sites directly but not when embedded
[08:02] <neetz> TJ-:  It just hangs up :/
[08:02] <neetz> xangua:  yes hard disk space
[08:02] <TJ-> neetz: is the package cache broken ?
[08:02] <neetz> TJ-:  command not found
[08:03] <llutz> neetz: aptitude -O installsize -F'%p %I' search '~i'
[08:03] <neetz> TJ-:  "PKG=mypackage;  apt-cache show "$PKG" | egrep '^(Package|Installed-Size):"
[08:03] <johndave> TJ, i remember when I was still using my old laptop this was also my problem, I installed puppy linux and all website loads normally. i dont have problem with it.
[08:04] <neetz> llutz:  thanks that worked
[08:04] <neetz> :D
[08:04] <neetz> llutz:  how do you learn all these commands ?
[08:05] <llutz> neetz: use linux for a longer while, read man-pages, use online-ressources etc
[08:06] <neetz> llutz:  and if i want to extend that command to give the total count of all the memory consumed by those packages ?
[08:06] <llutz> neetz: pipe it into awk and summarize last column
[08:07] <neetz> llutz:  latin and greek to me :/
[08:07] <neetz> llutz:  the command ?
[08:07] <llutz> neetz: man awk :)
[08:08] <neetz> llutz:  i'll learn from next time , can you tell me the complete command :p
[08:08] <llutz> neetz:  | awk '{SUM +=$2} END {print SUM}'
[08:08] <xTheAred> hi :D
[08:09] <neetz> llutz:  and if I want it in human readable form then ?  where do I put " -h " in the command
[08:10] <llutz> neetz: SUM/1024  or SUM/1024/1024 to make the result more handy
[08:10] <leeyaa> how to redirect stdout when using start-stop-deamon
[08:10] <leeyaa> ?
[08:11] <leeyaa> for some reason --stdout is not working
[08:12] <neetz> llutz:  reg ex error :/
[08:12] <llutz> neetz:  | awk '{SUM +=$2} END {print SUM/1024/1024}'
[08:13] <TJ-> leeyaa: start-stop-daemon doesn't have "--stdout", at least on 14.04
[08:13] <leeyaa> TJ-: yeah seems so. how to redirect then ?
[08:13] <leeyaa> is it possible at all ?
[08:14] <johndave> TJ-, its me again, i rebooted in usb live installer of elementary OS. I dont have problem now. all website works fine. i will try to upload a screenshot
[08:14] <leeyaa> i need both stdout and stderr
[08:14] <neetz> llutz:  it says 5.6 e -0.7
[08:14] <neetz> :/
[08:15] <MagePsycho> which is the good mysql client for ubuntu?
[08:15] <llutz> MagePsycho: mysql
[08:15] <Det87> leeyaa: do you mean -v (--verbose) or..?
[08:15] <leeyaa> Det87: no
[08:15] <MagePsycho>  mysql client app*
[08:15] <llutz> neetz:  {print SUM/1024} then
[08:16] <MagePsycho> mysql gui tool*
[08:16] <Det87> leeyaa: is that what you're looking for?: http://stackoverflow.com/q/8251933/1821548
[08:16] <leeyaa> Det87: i tried a few answers from stackoverflow, i wont come asking here otherwise ;p
[08:16] <leeyaa> and yes
[08:17] <johndave> Ok i decided not to upgrade my system, i will just reinstall my OS and no more upgrading.... thanks guys
[08:17] <Det87> leeyaa: so, that solves it then?
[08:17] <johndave> thanks for the help to all
[08:17] <ikonia> johndave: that seems like the worst idea possible
[08:17] <TJ-> leeyaa: what are you trying to redirect? Output from some program that doesn't know how to log its own output? Wrap it in a script that does the redirection
[08:19] <johndave> ikonia, yeah i know, but i have no choice.
[08:19] <ikonia> you do
[08:19] <ikonia> you can work through the problem
[08:19] <leeyaa> TJ-: the program itself has logging. it is a nodejs app. however, for debugging purposes i need to redirect the stdout output for the init.d script too (so i can log console.log etc) this is the actual script http://paste.ubuntu.com/11643989/
[08:19] <Det87> leeyaa: what about the SO answer didn't work?
[08:20] <leeyaa> Det87: no i tried that
[08:20] <Det87> leeyaa: but how is it not working?
[08:20] <leeyaa> Det87: log stays empty? :P
[08:21] <Det87> leeyaa: you sure you got rights to the file you're trying to write?
[08:21] <johndave> ikonia, is there a posibilty that the problem is the kernel?
[08:21] <ikonia> no
[08:22] <johndave> ok
[08:24] <leeyaa> Det87: yes it wont start otherwise
[08:24] <leeyaa> but i double checked too
[08:24] <TJ-> leeyaa: Upstart controls that via /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf which executes /etc/init.d/rcS which in turn executes /etc/init.d/rc - there may be a way to induce an option in one of those to capture the sysvinit script output to be logged/captured
[08:25] <leeyaa> TJ-: that looks like an option too. for now i dont need this app in upstart though
[08:25] <TJ-> johndave: Have you tried accessing those same web sites from Ubuntu's Guest Login, not your regular user account?
[08:25] <leeyaa> i will note it however
[08:25] <leeyaa> this is how i start the app    start-stop-daemon --start --background --no-close --exec $NODE_EXEC --user $NODE_USER --name $DNAME --pidfile $PID_FILE --make-pidfile --startas $NODE_EXEC --chuid $NODE_USER -- $NODE_APP $CONFIG_FILE
[08:25] <leeyaa> maybe im doing something wrong ?
[08:26] <TJ-> leeyaa: Upstart control those scripts being started and if I recall correctly it internally manages stdout/stderr redirection for writing to syslog
[08:27] <leeyaa> TJ-: isnt there an easier way ?
[08:27] <johndave> TJ, no i haven't i will try when i am done reiinstalling
[08:27] <leeyaa> maybe ill ditch start-stop-deamon lol
[08:27] <johndave> TJ-, i am currently reinstalling my elementaryOS
[08:27] <TJ-> johndave: Too late by then. Testing with the Guest account is a great way to find if a problem is caused by a user profile specific setting
[08:28] <johndave> yeah, its ok TJ- ,
[08:28] <TJ-> leeyaa: What is the actual problem --- node not starting?
[08:29] <leeyaa> TJ-: node is working fine. i just need to log stdout and stderr for its process for debugging purposes
[08:30] <leeyaa> TJ-: before moving to start-stop-deamon i just had $NODE_EXEC $NODE_APP $CONFIG_FILE 1>/dev/null 2>&1 &
[08:30] <leeyaa> i need the same thing ;p
[08:35] <TJ-> leeyaa: a more sensible independent solution would be to hook node.js console.log with a simply function that writes the output to disk file
[08:35] <PCatinean> Would you guys recommend intalling python-virtualenv via package manager or pip or direct download?
[08:37] <Johnny_Linux> i would prefer writting it down on paper, this way, you dont have to worry about losing it.
[08:37] <cfhowlett> PCatinean, direct download - least desirable option
[08:38] <polyphagia> yeah esentially the order you described PCatinean
[08:38] <PCatinean> okay :D
[08:38] <polyphagia> essentially*
[08:38] <PCatinean> thank you!
[08:42] <PCatinean> How do I add newlines with the tee command?
[08:44] <polyphagia> tee is for piping its stdin to stdout and a file
[08:44] <TJ-> PCatinean: that's not something tee does, it simply mirrors input to output and stdout
[08:45] <PCatinean> so it cannot be done?
[08:45] <polyphagia> use echo to add newlines
[08:45] <PCatinean> I did, didn't work
[08:45] <PCatinean> I mean I do echo and tee because I need to do sudo
[08:45] <TJ-> PCatinean: if you're trying to add newlines in pipes, use 'tr'
[08:45] <PCatinean> to add a file in xorg.conf
[08:45] <PCatinean> just tr? or escaped tr?
[08:46] <TJ-> PCatinean:  "echo -e "some stuff\nsome more stuff" | sudo tee /path/to/file"
[08:46] <PCatinean> echo -e uuuhh
[08:46]  * PCatinean tries
[08:47] <tnkhanh> hi everyone
[08:47] <PCatinean> TJ-, you're brilliant, you deserve a medal :D
[08:47] <PCatinean> thanks so much
[08:47] <polyphagia> hi tnkhanh
[08:47] <tnkhanh> anyone remember me?
[08:47]  * tnkhanh waves hand
[08:47] <TJ-> PCatinean: I've already got several, thanks :D
[08:47] <cfhowlett> tnkhanh, errrr, no.
[08:47] <PCatinean> In multiple domains? :D
[08:47] <cfhowlett> !ask | tnkhanh
[08:48] <TJ-> PCatinean: but of course O:)
[08:48] <Johnny_Linux> tnkhanh , you stole my lawn mower
[08:48] <tnkhanh> Johnny_Linux: don't worry I just borrow
[08:48] <Johnny_Linux> ok
[08:49] <PCatinean> hmm, whitepace seems not to work with \w
[08:49] <tnkhanh> I came here before to ask silly questions
[08:49] <tnkhanh> lucky noone rmb
[08:49] <cfhowlett> tnkhanh,  , please do not ask silly questions here.
[08:50] <TJ-> PCatinean: "\w" is a regular expression shortcut, not an escape code
[08:50] <TJ-> PCatinean: if you're referring to echo, then see "man echo" for the escape codes it recognises
[08:51] <PCatinean> hmm, apprently there is no such character
[08:51] <PCatinean> just tab
[08:52] <TJ-> PCatinean: be aware if you just call 'echo' using "echo" you may be invoking the shell's implementation, *not* "/bin/echo" which the man-page refers to. There may be subtle differences depending on the shell
[08:53] <PCatinean> Think there is a subtle difference you are right, but not for the case i'm after, tab should be more than fine as well I think
[08:54] <PCatinean> brb
[08:54] <avelldiroll> Hi all, on ubuntu 14.10 and xubuntu 14.10, this past few weeks, me and some colleague have been hearing a "2 tones" alert sound from different machines, with no other notifications or pointers in the logs, does anybody have an idea where this could come from? is there a way to dump the list of process that access the sound output (i.e., is there something more friendly to use than lsof on the proper
[08:54] <avelldiroll> /dev/device?) ?
[08:54] <ikonia> avelldiroll: that sounds like a hardware warning more than thhe OS
[08:54] <cfhowlett> avelldiroll, agreed.
[08:54] <avelldiroll> the 2 tones alert happens rougly once a day
[08:55] <cfhowlett> avelldiroll, check your logs
[08:55] <avelldiroll> ikonia: that is what i thought ... but it is happening on several machines with different specs and manufacurers]
[08:55] <ikonia> avelldiroll: seems unrealistic
[08:55] <avelldiroll> cfhowlett: i found nothing related
[08:56] <TJ-> avelldiroll: Does it sound like the basic PC speaker output (usually built onto the motherboard or the chassis), or coming from speakers attached to the audio output?
[08:57] <avelldiroll> TJ-: no, it sound like a mp3 recording of firefighter truck alarm
[08:57] <TJ-> avelldiroll: OK, so that sounds like its generated by software
[08:57] <avelldiroll> TJ-: and i am hearing it through earphones
[08:58] <TJ-> avelldiroll: I get something similar when I'm in a terminal and I cause the Bell to ring by trying to scroll too far in some direction, for example
[08:58] <cfhowlett> TJ-, accessibility options??
[08:58] <TJ-> avelldiroll: Is there any pattern to which application is being used, or run, when it happens?
[08:59] <leeyaa> TJ-: nvm i figured it
[08:59] <avelldiroll> It happens at times with no interaction with keyboards and mouse, and i did not find some common software used (apart from firefox)
[09:00] <avelldiroll> it happens to multiple users, using different machines, using different softwares
[09:00] <avelldiroll> and re-reading what i just wrote … it is sounding like it could be an opened webpage
[09:01] <polyphagia> most likely
[09:01] <Johnny_Linux> sounds right
[09:01] <avelldiroll> that would be used by all users, i have to investigate that
[09:01] <avelldiroll> thanks
[09:01] <TJ-> avelldiroll: some side-channel chat/notification for a logged-in service, perhaps?
[09:01] <eduardo> anyone can help to create vpn connection using only server address, user and password.... in windows i can do it very easy but ubuntu is impossible it asks me about a certificate that isnt avalaible for me
[09:02] <avelldiroll> eduardo: what kinf of VPN ? openvpn? anyconnect?
[09:02] <avelldiroll> *kind
[09:02] <leeyaa> thanks for the help earlier
[09:03] <leeyaa> apparently my app was not making any requests, so i was not getting any log entries :D
[09:03] <eduardo> avelldiroll i dont know, suppose vpn in windows they ask me for new connection
[09:03] <eduardo> ive also tried ptp but it doesnt work...
[09:04] <TJ-> leeyaa: doh!!
[09:04] <eduardo> i want to connect to my university cluster and they gave us a address, user and password thats it.....
[09:04] <avelldiroll> eduardo: by default, windows only support pptp vpn, so there should be a specific client used on windows, which one is it ?
[09:05] <nvk> hey
[09:05] <nvk> I'm trying to run an application and I'm getting this error "./bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstlport.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[09:05] <nvk> which package should I install?
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> nvk: wich application are you trying to run?
[09:06] <eduardo> avelldiroll http://imagebin.ca/v/24INV3jhtFR3 click in the image and download a pdf tutorial.. in spanish very very short
[09:06] <eduardo> with images you can easily understand
[09:07] <nvk> its a license manager, from my company
[09:07] <nvk> lotuspsychje
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> nvk: ubuntu version?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !find libstlport
[09:08] <nextech> 15.04
[09:08] <nvk> lotuspsychje 15.04
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> nvk: you have an url of that application, howto install?
[09:09] <eduardo> avelldiroll i do it well but it says connction has failed.....using ptpt
[09:09] <avelldiroll> eduardo: so it looks like a pptp VPN, be sure to install the following packages: network-manager-pptp network-manager-pptp-gnome
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> nvk: apt-cache doesnt find that libstlport
[09:09] <PCatinean> In the case of not requiring video editing or performance whatsoever, should I stick to xorg noveau drivers for my notebook with dual video cards in it?
[09:09] <nvk> lotuspsychje: I have nothing but the binary, will ask my mates when they come then
[09:09] <TJ-> nvk: libstlport is the Sun c++ compiler standard library. Looks like you need that to run the application
[09:10] <eduardo> avelldiroll i have yet installed
[09:10] <nvk> TJ-: how can I install that?
[09:10] <TJ-> nvk: see http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solaris/cmp-stlport-libcstd-142559.html
[09:10] <nvk> TJ-: will have a look, thanks!
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: use the drivers that work best for your system mate
[09:11] <k1l> nvk: seems like that libstlport is quite old? i see 12.04 packages but no since 14.04
[09:11] <PCatinean> I mean they work fine now not sure if I would get better rendering/refresh-rate/quality if I switched for the nvidia proprietary drivers
[09:11] <avelldiroll> eduardo: so when configuring a pptp VPN in network-manager, it does not ask for a certificate, what is the issue then ?
[09:11] <polyphagia> if the free drivers are working for you i don't recommend switching PCatinean
[09:12] <PCatinean> Then I will stick here :))
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> polyphagia: +1
[09:12] <nvk> k1l: I saw that aswell... I don't know which SO they have in production
[09:12] <nvk> OS*
[09:12] <k1l> nvk: so what program is it that needs that?
[09:13] <eduardo> avelldiroll  http://imagebin.ca/v/24VnDkfy17Rs it always failed the connection although they are right...
[09:13] <nvk> k1l: it's a license manager for my company
[09:15] <eduardo> avelldiroll if you want i can pass the login in private and you can try... for my in windows is easy and ubuntu impossible...
[09:15] <avelldiroll> eduardo: you should never suggest that, those are private
[09:15] <avelldiroll> (and you don't know what i could do with them :) )
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> nvk: the name of the package would be usefull, is it a .deb or..?
[09:16] <eduardo> avelldiroll i would change it, and is nothing imporant there only access to terminal of cluster
[09:16] <avelldiroll> eduardo: looking at the pdf and the image, you don't seem to use the same server adress
[09:17] <eduardo> averlldiroll sorry i know it, they have told us to change the address.. the new addrss that works in windows is the one i wrote....... the tutorial is for windows xpp so i bit outdated jaj
[09:17] <nvk> lotuspsychje: it's just a binary file... LicenseManager, no extension whatsoever
[09:17] <k1l> nvk: seems like you need the oracle solaris studio
[09:17] <avelldiroll> eduardo: i read "tunels.udl.es" on the pdf and "tunelsalu.udl.cat" on the image (i am probably wrong as the resolution is low on both)
[09:18] <nvk> k1l: ok, will download, thanks!
[09:18] <eduardo> averlldiroll sorry i know it, they have told us to change the address.. the new addrss that works in windows is the one i wrote....... the tutorial is for windows xpp so i bit outdated
[09:18] <avelldiroll> eduardo: last thing would be to check your firewall
[09:18] <TJ-> eduardo: is listening on the standard PPTP port, as well as exposing the Windows network it is on... you may want to report that to your university security/IT department
[09:19] <TJ-> eduardo: You should check the log files for reasons why it fails to connect. In a terminal do "tail -f /var/log/syslog" then try to connect, you sohuld get some clues
[09:20] <eduardo> as long as i know i have it disabled ( my firewall)
[09:20] <avelldiroll> from memory, for pptp vpn, you need 47 and 1723 opened, but please to take that for granted (i don't use pptp much)
[09:21] <TJ-> avelldiroll: No, only 1723 TCP
[09:21] <avelldiroll> eduardo: it could be the firewall of your machine, or the firewall of the network you are currently in
[09:22] <mikubuntu> day 4: damn hp mini, it wants to load lubuntu live 1404, but screen blacks out just after splash screen with 'try w/o install' option -- which, according to this page: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/ i NEED to run live first to use gparted to alter partitions. also, someone had suggested i get into f6 to click nomodeset, which i did, but still goes to black screen.
[09:22] <avelldiroll> TJ-: oh yes you are right
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: did you try xubuntu aswell?
[09:22] <kk_drop> is there a keyboard shortcut for moving window between screens (not between desktops - shft+ctrl+arrow
[09:23] <eduardo> this is my log... http://paste.ubuntu.com/11645033/
[09:23] <TJ-> avelldiroll: The '47' you're thinking of is the IP protocol number 47, otherwise known as GRE, used by Cisco and other Tunnelling services
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: is that box an uefi?
[09:23] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: i went to answer that yesterday, but you had left -- no, but why do you ask. it looks like the problem is associated with the peculiarities of hp netbook
[09:24] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: not sure what uefi is -- its an hp mini 1000 netbook
[09:24] <avelldiroll> TJ-: yes, just memory association, due to having dealt with it a while ago, it is alreadty mixed up in my memory soup
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: whats the Default Os on that hp?
[09:24] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: currently running xp (not sure what it came with, was given to my sister)
[09:24] <TJ-> avelldiroll: I know the feeling :)
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: does your system have less then 2gig ram?
[09:25] <TJ-> eduardo: Is your system behind a router that is doing port address translation? Does Windows work behind the same router?
[09:26] <k1l> eduardo: network-manager-pptp is installed?
[09:26] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: here's a page that expains some of hp mini problems/solutions to installing ubuntu
[09:26] <avelldiroll> TJ-: he sais it is working on windows, so i assumed it was working on windows "on the same network"
[09:26] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/
[09:26] <avelldiroll> *says
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: how much ram does your box have?
[09:27] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: how do i find that out from xp
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: system settings
[09:27] <TJ-> eduardo: Your log file looked like it didn't capture the pptp service starting, which will contain more accurate details. Can you pastebin the last 2000 lines from that file? "tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[09:27] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: lemme look
[09:27] <TJ-> avelldiroll: me too, but I've learned to my cost never to assume when doing support!
[09:29] <avelldiroll> eduardo: TJ- :  I have to go, but from what i recall, windows pptp servers can be very picky on the auth protocol they choose, i remember having to force one (pap, chap, eap,…) as the negaociation with the server was failing
[09:29] <avelldiroll> TJ-: and you are right to do so :)
[09:29] <TJ-> avelldiroll: yes, we need more info to determine but that's my thought right now
[09:30] <TJ-> eduardo: Are you connected to the VPN from a Windows PC when you try to connect from Ubuntu, or do you try it when Windows isn't connected to the VPN?
[09:32] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok i have system properties open, has tabs for updates, remote, general, hardware, and advanced
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: should show in system properties, ask in ##windows if you dont find
[09:33] <vanschagen> i  have now ATtin working on  win7 ,linux mint and MAC works now fine
[09:33] <vanschagen> ATtiny
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> !mint | vanschagen
[09:34] <vanschagen> ok
[09:36] <eduardo> perhaps this is better with more info....http://paste.ubuntu.com/11645324/
[09:37] <eduardo> TJ- i ve tried in a windows laptop i have, and also i have tried from a virtual machine ( windows 10) with vmware
[09:38] <eduardo> laptop - different computer... virtual machine inside same desktop pc
[09:38] <cotalinux> Hello, does anyone use something for time tracking on ubuntu? I've tried Hamster but it lacks some features
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> cotalinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4113/which-time-tracker-application-do-you-recommend
[09:40] <TJ-> eduardo: That's a great log :)   CHAP authentication is good but then Link Control Protocol reports an error: "LCP terminated by peer (MPPE required but peer negotiation failed)"
[09:41] <eduardo> TJ- so any solution ?
[09:42] <avelldiroll> eduardo: enable MPEE encryption in the advanced settings then
[09:42] <TJ-> eduardo: Yes, in the PPTP options enable MPPE
[09:43] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: intel atom cpu n270 @ 1.60 ghz 1.32 ghz, 0.99 gb ram -- says on sys prop window
[09:43] <TJ-> eduardo: MPPE == Microsoft Point-to-Point Encryption
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: for system less then 2gig, try force_pae  option, the same way you untered F6 nomodeset
[09:44] <cotalinux> lotuspsychje: thx. Hamster seems like a good app, however I would have liked to set idle detection to 5 min. Insted the app uses the "turn screen off when inactive for" system settings
[09:45] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: i don't think i remember there being a force pae option
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: you can enter manualy
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> !pae | mikubuntu
[09:45] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: is that in grub?
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: read the trigger mate
[09:46] <TJ-> PAE should have no effect on a system with 1GB of RAM
[09:49] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok, i see those instructions -- were you able to read the page i posted above about hp mini's partitions?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: yes, did you try those aswell?
[09:49] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: no, because i could never get the stick to run live yet
[09:49] <avelldiroll> TJ-: PAE consumes some resources (ram, cpu-cycles) even when not used, so a system with less than 3GB will perform marginally better with PAE disabled (marginally here is roughly 10% overall)
[09:50] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: does that need to be addressed b4 or after forcepae process?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: try the boot options first: nomodeset or no_acpi or forcepae to test if you can bypass your black screen
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: if you cant, must be that partitioning issue
[09:52] <stevenm> Hi, anyone here use catfish? and have you noticed it doesn't seem to use 'locate' like *at all* ?
[09:53] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: are you suggesting i try nomodeset, no_acpi, and forecpae all simultaneously? i had ticked the nomodeset in f6 yesterday, but no luck still went to black screen
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: no, each one at time test
[09:54] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok guess that will take a few mins you gnna be around for little while?
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: not sure, if not ask away what you tested in this channel
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: always some good helpers here
[09:54] <TJ-> mikubuntu avelldiroll: Indeed, but PAE shouldn't have any effect on a 1GB system displaying a black screen. PAE adds another layer of page tables to increase addressable memory in the kernel, but not the user-space VMA
[09:55] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: yes i know, but some better than others ... lol
[09:55] <welly> Hello all. Can anyone recommend a terminal app to replace the default terminal?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> !info terminator | welly
[09:56] <avelldiroll> TJ-: agreed, i just read your messaged, answered, and then backlogged to realize my answer was out of scope of the issue
[09:56] <mikubuntu> TJ-: what about acpi_off ?
[09:56] <k1l> welly: well, if you want to replace it see what other terminal can offer you the stuff that the regular terminal cant
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: you have been tested for days now, in your case its worth a try to test it all
[09:57] <welly> cool, going to check out terminator. Just found that one. I'm finding the regular terminal just a bit limiting.
[09:58] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok, i try acpi off first since i've tried nomodeset already several times
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> welly: limited in wich way?
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: did you try 12.04 also?
[09:58] <TJ-> mikubuntu: acpi could have an effect, but my focus would be on why the integrated intel GMA945 video chipset driver is failing to work
[09:59] <welly> lotuspsychje: I've just installed ubuntu on my macbook pro to replace osx. used to use iterm2 on osx. It was a bit more configurable, a bit more immediate. Tabbed terminals was particularly handy
[09:59] <polyphagia> gnome-terminal has tabs
[10:00] <polyphagia> they just did a really good job of hiding them
[10:00] <k1l> gnome terminal got tabs, too
[10:00] <polyphagia> and i'm not sure why tbh
[10:00] <welly> does it? I certianly can't find it if it does
[10:00] <welly> new terminal opens a new window
[10:01] <polyphagia> shift ctrl t
[10:01] <welly> Oh i see
[10:01] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: and TJ- acpi-_off and went right to black sreen
[10:01] <welly> thank you
[10:01] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'm reaidng HP's service manual for that model now, in case there's some clues
[10:01] <k1l> gnome guys think too much settings are too confusing. at least the settings still work with shortcuts
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: can you tell us again wich ubuntu versions you tested on that box
[10:02] <mikubuntu> ok, i'll try the forcepae in meantime
[10:03] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: just lubuntu i have been using for quite a while and i like it -- need something simple for my sister to use
[10:03] <TJ-> mikubuntu: According to this document, the mini 210 has an Intel GMA3150 video chipset. That should help us further diagnose whether the correct driver is loading and any options that you could tweak for it
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> welly: http://www.tecmint.com/linux-terminal-emulators/
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: yes but you tested different version of lubuntu no?
[10:04] <mikubuntu> TJ-: problem is i can't even get a terminal with that damned black screen
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: ive suggested you xubuntu also yesterday, as someone succeeded on a forum to install it on your hp
[10:04] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: no i only have one usb
[10:05] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: oooohhhhhh, you never said that -- i asked you why you asked about xub .. lol
[10:06] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: but also many apparently have loaded lub also, and i really do prefer it if we can get to the bottom of the problem
[10:06] <polyphagia> ah welly you can also go into Edit>Preferences
[10:06] <polyphagia> and change it to open new terminals in tabs
[10:06] <polyphagia> instead of windows
[10:07] <polyphagia> still though, i don't find that very intuitive
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: by testing out, you can find your specific issue
[10:08] <TJ-> mikubuntu: There are ways. At the boot kernel command-line editor, put on the end: "init=/bin/sh" and it will start the kernel and a basic shell and nothing else. If that works you can work forward from there.
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: check bios settings, check bios flash updates,try xubuntu,try force_pae,try 12.04,...
[10:10] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: "Now a string of options is visible, often with 'quiet' or 'quiet splash --' at the end. Add 'forcepae' to the string before and after the two dashes ("forcepae -- forcepae")." from page you sent -- but i don't know how to edit that string.
[10:12] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: nevermind i edited it -- now to test it
[10:14] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: nope -- straight to black screen with forcepae added to string
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: ok then you've tested all boot options now, try other things
[10:16] <TJ-> mikubuntu: long shot but... have you got an external monitor connected?
[10:17] <__Myst__> How do I make something done in dpkg-reconfigure permanent?
[10:17] <__Myst__> Everything I set there gets deleted on reboot
[10:17] <sveta> it is permanent by default and by design
[10:17] <sveta> please be more specific
[10:17] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok, so i'm back at black screen, do you want me to try to start a shell? is that the same location to insert init bin sh as where i put the forcepae?
[10:18] <mikubuntu> TJ-: no ext monitor -- i'm on my laptop with the target box next to me
[10:19] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'm reading it is caused by the video chipset being set into an illegal resolution. Try this on the kernel command-line: "video=1024x600"   - change those X and Y resolution values if you know your mini's resolution is different to those
[10:19] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I took those values from the service manuals' list of screen's fitted to that model
[10:22] <mikubuntu> TJ-: where is the 'kernel command line' is that the same place i earlier inserted 'forcepae'?
[10:22] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Correct, that is it
[10:22] <__Myst__> Let me be more specific:
[10:22] <__Myst__> Whenever I run the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure' to set my keyboard layout to Generica 105 PC Italian
[10:23] <__Myst__> After reboot it gets set to Generica 105 PC English
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: try 12.04 on that box also
[10:23] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok, so insert "video=1024x600" (without quotations) at the end of that line?
[10:23] <__Myst__> How can I fix that?
[10:23] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Yes
[10:24] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: ok after i try these options, because i'll have to erase the 1404 and download and write the new stick for 1204
[10:24] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I've also read that on some GMA chipsets the backlight setting is inverted so when the operating system thinks it has turned it on, it has turned it off. That's controlled by ACPI, and the fix for that one is to use "acpi_osi=linux" which tells the ACPI sub-system it is using Linux not Windows
[10:25] <__Myst__> The command is running is not only "sudo dpkg-reconfigure", but "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"
[10:25] <__Myst__> And the automatically selected options are all the correct ones
[10:28] <k1l> __Myst__: unset "use system defaults" in the keyboard settings
[10:28] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok, back to black screen -- are you suggesting then to add acpi osi linux to kernel string after 1024x600?
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: how big is your netbook screen exactly?
[10:29] <k1l> __Myst__: what desktop do you use?
[10:30] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: you mean physically?
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: yes
[10:30] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: small its just a 'netbook'
[10:30] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Try them together first, then acpi_osi on its own. One other thing I can think of... try connecting an external monitor in case the outputs have been switched at boot time... that might be seeing the output. I once dealt with a system that do that and it took me a day until I thought to try an external monitor :)
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: +1 good idea about the external
[10:31] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: According to the service manual the mini 210 has a 10.1" 1024x600 screen
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: sounds like those atom netbooks with ubuntu remix on
[10:32] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: if you want the screen res that xp is currently using i have to boot xp and look.
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: no its ok, try what TJ- suggests
[10:33] <TJ-> mikubuntu: If you want to test the 'inverted backlight" theory, shine a bright torch onto the screen and you should be able to illuminate the LCD pixels and if you can see things drawn on screen you know it is the backlight issue
[10:37] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok black screen using both together -- going to try just osi linux now
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: wich lubuntu did you put on stick 32 or 64?
[10:39] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'd suggest the 2nd monitor *and* the bright torch right now. you need to prove whether this is really a no-pixels-written-to-screen or a backlight-is-off issue
[10:42] <PCatinean> Does anyone have issues with google hangout in chromium on ubuntu 14.04.02?
[10:44] <sveta> yes?
[10:45] <mikubuntu> TJ-: arrrrrrrrrrrrgh ... black screen of death ... lol. lotuspsychje 32 bit. don't know what the bright torch is -- is it something like a hammer? hey -- i don't remember that kernel string editor ever being on the install disks is it fairly new? very cool for troubleshooting huh?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:47] <mikubuntu> TJ-: external monitor is a problem right now, don't know if i can track one down from someone
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: try a 12.04 ubuntu or xubuntu perhaps
[10:50] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: they've always said if you're not sure to use 32 bit, right? i couldn't find any reference to 64 type so i used 32 bit
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: that should be good to go
[10:50] <sliddjur>  Im getting a blank screen when trying to connect to a mikrotik router via ubuntu sudo screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200. Works via putty on a windows machine at same baud rate
[10:50] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Could you 'borrow' the monitor from the PC you're using on here?
[10:50] <mikubuntu> lotuspsychje: regular full flavor ubuntu?
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> anyway im out, let us know how you fixxed it mikubuntu
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: as long as its 12.04, just to test if you can bypass the black screen
[10:51] <mikubuntu> TJ-: its a laptop, can i hijack part of the monitor?
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[10:51] <__Myst__> Is it more efficient to use tmux/Terminator than i3 for stacking terminals?
[10:52] <TJ-> sliddjur: Try "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200,cs8,-ixon,-ixff,istrip"
[10:52] <mikubuntu> TJ-: naturally, you'd have to tell me how to do that :(
[10:52] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Ahhhh! No :) I thought I saw you mention a desktop
[10:52] <TJ-> sliddjur: typo "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200,cs8,-ixon,-ixoff,istrip"
[10:53] <sliddjur> TJ-:  nope, still blank screen
[10:56] <sliddjur> same with cutecom gui, 8 dat 1 stop bit.
[10:57] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i had to go back and find your bright torch comment, i din't know what you were talking about. i do have a double lcd headlamp that i just shone onto the black screen, and no i don't see any writing or images visible. i do, however, have two floaters in my eyes now, surprisingly similar to the lamps on the lcd shining back at me from the screen. lol.
[11:00] <mikubuntu> TJ-: so do you agree with lotus that i should burn and try 12.04 versions of xub and ub? should i try 12.04 lub by the same token?
[11:02] <TJ-> mikubuntu: OK, so that suggests the issue is a problem with initialising the video chipset, posibly switching to the external output which has nothing connected, or possibly the wrong resolution being requested which would have the effect of turning the video chipset off for some combinations.
[11:02] <mikubuntu> TJ-: offhand, can you tell me -- is it possible to load multiple bootable OS on one usb? the stick i have is 16gb, so it has space, but i don't know if thats a workable thing?
[11:03] <TJ-> mikubuntu: IT won't hurt to try an older version, at least you'll be able to confirm whether an older release can operate the screen, which if so will point to a regression
[11:03] <ablest1980> wheres lotus?
[11:03] <ablest1980> hello
[11:05] <TJ-> mikubuntu: It is possible, but you have to step through some hoops to di it, oyu can't simply write several ISO images onto the USB flash in different places
[11:06] <mikubuntu> TJ-: so i'll set you free now for awhile, thanks so much for all the help -- i'll report back whatever happens using 1204 versions
[11:06] <TJ-> mikubuntu: You might try this Windows tool if you think it suitable   https://sites.google.com/site/shamurxboot/
[11:08] <mikubuntu> TJ-: cool tool i'd have to use it on the netbook b4 i wipe xp i guess, nothing else running windows around here
[11:08] <TJ-> mikubuntu: There are Linux tools too
[11:10] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I see this one suggested at penlinux site: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[11:11] <michael_mbp> hey guys
[11:11] <michael_mbp> how can I get a command to run backgrounded but not return an exit value?
[11:12] <michael_mbp> 2>&1>/dev/null &
[11:12] <michael_mbp> ??
[11:12] <Axsexel> anyone here?
[11:12] <Saturn812> michael_mbp, nohup command args > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[11:13] <michael_mbp> nohup ?
[11:13] <michael_mbp> so I'm doing
[11:13] <michael_mbp> service sendmail start &
[11:13] <michael_mbp> that would return '...done' and exit 0
[11:13] <Axsexel> anyone here an expert on windows 8.1 conflicts?
[11:14] <michael_mbp> you're asking in a linux chan...
[11:14] <Ben64> Axsexel: ##windows for windows support
[11:14] <Saturn812> afaik services should run on the background by itself. If it's a legit service
[11:14] <mikubuntu> TJ-: cool, it never really occured to me before to have multiple os on one stick, probably because i never had a big enough stick :P
[11:14] <michael_mbp> Saturn812: it does
[11:14] <Axsexel> nono, my problem is with windows having possible conflict with ubuntu
[11:14] <michael_mbp> but I'm running it through something called foreman
[11:14] <michael_mbp> it's a simple process runner
[11:15] <michael_mbp> that exit 0 causes it to TERM.
[11:15] <michael_mbp> so I just want to trigger sendmail to start...background away
[11:15] <michael_mbp> and don't want it to 'exit 0'.
[11:16] <michael_mbp> if I just do service sendmail start, then it's fine... BUT takes a long time.
[11:16] <michael_mbp> Saturn812: thoughts?
[11:16] <TJ-> michael_mbp: bash shell "set +m" (monitor) might do what you want
[11:17] <michael_mbp> ah I wonder if it's cause of set -e
[11:17] <michael_mbp> exit on first failure?
[11:17] <Axsexel> ok, I'll just ask and maybe someone nice enough will answer me straight . Is it possible if I had linux on one HDD partition and installed windows8.1 on another partition, for windows to wipe clean my linux partition? and no, it's not just a boot problem, i ran GParted and other softwares and the linux partition is just gone
[11:18] <Axsexel> it either says "free space" either no partition at all
[11:18] <geirha> michael_mbp: well, 0 means success, and won't trigger errexit (set -e)
[11:19] <Ben64> Axsexel: maybe? ask ##windows about how the windows installer behaves
[11:19] <TJ-> Axsexel: If you installed Windows after Linux it is possible, yes
[11:19] <Saturn812> windows installer wipes out any linux partitions
[11:19] <Axsexel> SERIOUSLY?
[11:19] <Saturn812> *boot partitions'
[11:19] <Axsexel> no, not just the boot
[11:19] <Axsexel> the actual partition where linux was installed
[11:20] <michael_mbp> geirha: true...
[11:20] <Saturn812> if you didn't do anything bad on windows install, it just erases the boot sector
[11:20] <michael_mbp> not sure what the exit code from command & is
[11:20] <geirha> michael_mbp: always 0
[11:20] <michael_mbp> it's cause that process dies once sendmail starts
[11:20] <michael_mbp> so right now, it's a docker container, running an entrypoint.sh
[11:20] <Axsexel> so afterall it could be me wiping it by mistake? and if so any quick tip on it's recovery?
[11:21] <michael_mbp> geirha: this service start & is inside that entrypoint script.
[11:21] <Saturn812> Axsexel, data recovery is very tricky. You have good chances if it is a separate from windows 8 hdd, but if you installed something on it already, chances are very slim
[11:21] <geirha> michael_mbp: I really don't see the point in running the service command in the background. If you want to ignore its exit status, just put   || :  behind it
[11:22] <Axsexel> the HDD space where linux was is free, haven't touched it
[11:22] <geirha> (I also think it's a bad idea to ignore its exit status)
[11:22] <michael_mbp> geirha: cause it delays the container starting
[11:22] <michael_mbp> and sendmail eventually starts after about a minute or so
[11:23] <michael_mbp> true... ideally, I'd have some process monitoring on sendmail
[11:23] <michael_mbp> and true, I'd run it inside its own container.
[11:23] <michael_mbp> (which I'm working on)
[11:23] <geirha> it shouldn't take long to start a service
[11:24] <michael_mbp> sendmail seems to take an age.
[11:24] <michael_mbp> think it has trouble determining the containers fqdn.
[11:24] <geirha> from starting the service till the service is up and running, could take anything from a few milliseconds to several minutes, but the service command should return much sooner regardless
[11:25] <michael_mbp> it returns '* starting sendmail MTA...' and takes about a minute
[11:25] <michael_mbp> the text ^^ is along those lines :)
[11:36] <frenda> There is a website for 'linux terminal video clips' that I can't remember it; Does anybody know it?
[11:36] <frenda> a place for sharing
[11:37] <backbox> hello
[11:38] <backbox> i need some help here guys
[11:38] <Ben64> backbox: you running backbox linux?
[11:38] <backbox> yeah
[11:38] <backbox> but not installed it yet
[11:39] <Ben64> their support channel is  #backbox on irc.autistici.org
[11:39] <backbox> and i wana install it on hdd
[11:39] <backbox> okay thx im going there
[11:40] <backbox> but no one is there bro
[11:40] <alnkpa> hi guys, I installed papi from the repos on a system only using Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7-8890 v3. it reports "No uncore PMUs or events found", while perf list sees a multitude of PMU events. does anybody have an idea, what the problem might be
[11:40] <Ben64> backbox: theres 7 people!
[11:41] <backbox> Ben64: i joined the channel u put it and no one is there my bro
[11:41] <Ben64> well backbox isn't supported here
[11:42] <backbox> Ben64: can u give me the link again pls
[11:42] <Ben64> scroll up a few lines?
[11:43] <Omnipotent> well like a total noob I have accidentally removed /etc/apache2/apache.conf from my system
[11:43] <Omnipotent> and using everything provided over S.O. and stuff... I can't seem to retrive..
[11:44] <Omnipotent> the apt-get for retriving configuration..
[11:44] <kk_drop> try to reinstall apache, it will create it again
[11:44] <Omnipotent> Did that too.
[11:44] <Omnipotent> --purge remove too
[11:44] <Omnipotent> and then manual install..
[11:44] <Omnipotent> but it just removes 29 KBs
[11:44] <Omnipotent> and installs the same
[11:44] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Do you mean "/etc/apache2/apache2.conf" ?
[11:45] <Omnipotent> err yeah that
[11:45] <Omnipotent> it was just default configuration
[11:45] <Omnipotent> so no big loss
[11:45] <Ben64> yep, reinstalling apache2 will recreate it
[11:45] <Omnipotent> Ben42, as I said, I tried, but it doesn't.
[11:45] <TJ-> Omnipotent: OK ... making sure you weren't looking for a non-existent file!
[11:45] <Ben64> then you didn't do it properly
[11:45] <Omnipotent> tried --purge remove .. autoremove
[11:45] <Omnipotent> and everything else.
[11:46] <Omnipotent> what can I do now?
[11:47] <Omnipotent> does anyone have a copy of default file which I can literally copy paste?
[11:47] <Ben64> reinstall apache2
[11:47] <Omnipotent> I did.
[11:47] <Omnipotent> I mentioned I did.
[11:47] <Ben64> right, but you must have missed something
[11:47] <Omnipotent> Right, then what exactly? sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
[11:47] <Omnipotent> sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:47] <Omnipotent> how about that?
[11:47] <Omnipotent> should it work?
[11:48] <TJ-> Omnipotent: which release of Ubuntu?
[11:48] <Omnipotent> TJ-, 14.04
[11:48] <Ben64> just tried it on my test vm, works fine
[11:48] <Omnipotent> I dunno.. it's not working.
[11:48] <Ben64> resintalled apache2 and it recreated the file. try harder
[11:48] <Omnipotent> It removes only 29 kbs
[11:48] <Omnipotent> for some  reasons.
[11:48] <Ben64> who cares how much it removes
[11:48] <Omnipotent> I've also made sure that apache2 is not running.
[11:49] <Omnipotent> How about you give me some proper command instead of just telling me to try harder :\
[11:49] <Omnipotent> Sorry about being rude.. but that is really vogue answer :(
[11:49] <Ben64> you just keep saying you've tried everything, but i doubt you've tried it while here
[11:50] <Omnipotent> Well, you didn't tell me anything that I didn't.. I tried reinstall.. reinstall with config option passed using -o for apt-get .. I also tried --purge remove and then install
[11:50] <Omnipotent> I also tried autoremove and then install
[11:50] <Omnipotent> what is left?
[11:50] <Omnipotent> Can you tell me that?
[11:50] <Omnipotent> I can't find any more solutions...
[11:50] <Ben64> if you can't be bothered to follow the steps, i can't help you
[11:50] <Omnipotent> k
[11:51] <kuba7447> every time i start ubuntu , its says "MPU device not found" , whats wrong?
[11:51] <Omnipotent> I am done with regular channel troll it seems heh
[11:51] <TJ-> Omnipotent: reinstalling all files would require: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2"
[11:51] <Omnipotent> yeah did that .. as mentioned about.. "I tried reinstall'
[11:52] <Ben64> stop saying you've tried it, and TRY IT
[11:52] <Omnipotent> ...
[11:52] <Omnipotent> I tried the exact same command
[11:52] <Omnipotent> .it doesn't work
[11:52] <Omnipotent> which part of it did you not understand?
[11:52] <TJ-> Omnipotent: show us the terminal output when you try it
[11:52] <Omnipotent> okies
[11:52] <Omnipotent> A min please.
[11:52] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Have you checked the disk space is not running out, etc?
[11:52] <Omnipotent> Yes, there's A LOT Of space here
[11:52] <Omnipotent> around 100 GB left.
[11:53] <Laurenceb_> hi
[11:53] <Omnipotent> Hello
[11:53] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Any quotas set?
[11:53] <Omnipotent> Nope, clean fresh install of ubuntu
[11:53] <Laurenceb_> I have a problem ,metacity has huge and i have lost my window decoiration
[11:53] <Laurenceb_> how do i restart metacity?
[11:53] <Laurenceb_> i only have ssh access
[11:53] <kuba7447> what is an MPU device?
[11:53] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Desktop with Unity, or Server ?
[11:53] <Omnipotent> Server, VPS
[11:53] <Omnipotent> no Unity installed.
[11:54] <Ben64> Laurenceb_: DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace&
[11:54] <Omnipotent> TJ-, http://ideone.com/kZAA73
[11:54] <Omnipotent> output after --reinstall
[11:54] <TJ-> Omnipotent: OK, that helps. I'm wondering if the download of the .deb archive is somehow broken
[11:54] <Omnipotent> well, I originally installed from same repos.. 3 days ago.
[11:54] <Laurenceb_> ok, trying
[11:54] <Omnipotent> I didn't fiddle with anything..
[11:55] <Ben64> doesn't look like ubuntu
[11:55] <Omnipotent> I just accidently hit enter where I was not supposed to and deleted apache2's config.
[11:55] <Ben64> and definitely isn't x86 based
[11:56] <Omnipotent> It's arm based system .. the 14.04 is available for that under ARM ISO..
[11:56] <TJ-> Omnipotent: that looks like a Debian Wheezy package... on ARM hard float arch
[11:56] <Ben64> raspberry pi running raspbian maybe?
[11:56] <Omnipotent> No
[11:57] <Ben64> google only comes back with results from debian, raspbian, and kali
[11:58] <Omnipotent> No idea.
[11:58] <Ben64> probably because you're not on Ubuntu. please use the correct channel for your distro
[11:58] <Omnipotent> *sigh*
[11:59] <DJones> Ben64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[11:59] <Omnipotent> I'll ask in Raspbian channel if you want... but I am pretty sure it is Ubuntu for ARM
[11:59] <Omnipotent> although the device is not at my place.
[11:59] <kuba7447> what is MPU-401 ???
[11:59] <DJones> There is a 14.04 image for the Pi 2
[12:00] <Omnipotent> regardless shouldn't packet manager commands be same..
[12:00] <Omnipotent> even if it happens to be Raspbian?
[12:00] <Ben64> DJones: yes, i know it exists, i'm looking at the specific package for apache, and every result on the internet points me to not ubuntu
[12:00] <Omnipotent> Thanks TJ- for all the help :-)
[12:01] <TJ-> Omnipotent: It's definitely a Debian package, has no Ubuntu version identifier, but it is in the ISO. And you *have* found a legitimate bug which I've reproduced here
[12:02] <Omnipotent> oh.
[12:02] <welly> Hey all. Got a question regarding the gnome key storage. I copied my gpg and pass config over from my desktop and ran pass. all worked fine except it prompted me if I wanted to save the password. Made the mistake of saying yes
[12:02] <Omnipotent> Well it isn't even my system, I am just SSHing into a friends system who just gave me the address and asked me to fix it.. so I dunno what exactly lies underneath.
[12:03] <Omnipotent> Why would I lie if it's not ubuntu... the friend just told me it's ubuntu so I was trying
[12:03] <__Myst__> Welp
[12:03] <Omnipotent> I mean there isn't a great point in saying it's Ubuntu if it's not heh
[12:03] <__Myst__> I just spent the past 15 minutes manually making a gnome-terminal theme for Solarized
[12:03] <welly> Now every time I run the pass command it dones't prompt me for my gpg password anymore and it reports a GPG warning about Key storage taking over GPGP
[12:03] <welly> er GPG
[12:03] <Omnipotent> TJ-, can you kindly paste the default apache2.conf??
[12:03] <Ben64> Omnipotent: easy test would be to check the sources... cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:03] <Omnipotent> somewhere?
[12:04] <Omnipotent> Becausae I only need that.
[12:04] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Here's the issue. That file isn't in the apache2 package it is in apache2.2-common, but reinstalling *that* package doesn't reinstall the file: "dpkg -S /etc/apache2/apache2.conf" will show you which package to reinstall
[12:07] <Omnipotent> TJ-, Yeah that does show that apache2.2-common is the package
[12:07] <Omnipotent> but reinstalling that doesn't help either
[12:07] <Omnipotent> so what can I do?
[12:07] <Ben64> purge it and install
[12:07] <Ben64> reinstall may not cut it
[12:07] <dmytro> Русские есть?
[12:07] <__Myst__> Can anybody give me an opinion of my Solarized pallete?
[12:07] <__Myst__> I'll post a scrot in a minute
[12:07] <dmytro> Hello comrads
[12:08] <Ben64> Omnipotent: and you should check in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:08] <__Myst__> http://imgur.com/w7nQQKn
[12:08] <__Myst__> ^ Solarized for gnome-terminal
[12:09] <Omnipotent> Ben64, there's some comments in it.
[12:09] <Ben64> whats the http://blah.blah part
[12:09] <Omnipotent> Ah, archive.raspian.org.
[12:09] <Omnipotent> seems like you are right.
[12:09] <Omnipotent> I am sorry.
[12:10] <Ben64> purging and reinstalling works everywhere i've tested here on ubuntu
[12:10] <Ben64> if it doesn't work there... idk
[12:10] <Omnipotent> but shouldn't the apt be similar?
[12:10] <Omnipotent> Eitherway I _am_ purging 2.2-common
[12:10] <Omnipotent> It's taking some time.
[12:11] <Ben64> raspbian is based on debian, ubuntu is based on debian. they can be quite different
[12:11]  * Omnipotent fires install command after purge and prays to god
[12:11] <Omnipotent> :p
[12:12] <zykotick9> s/can be/are/
[12:12] <TJ-> Omnipotent: Here's how to extract that single file from the .deb file: "dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile /var/cache/apt/archives/apache2.2-common_2.2.22-13+deb7u4_armhf.deb | tar x ./etc/apache2/apache2.conf"
[12:12] <Ben64> zykotick9: stuff like sed is going to work the same i'd bet, but packages yeah are going to have a lot of differences
[12:13] <Omnipotent> damn purge removing apache2.2-common and reinstalling it fixed it
[12:13] <Omnipotent> just purge removing apache2 didn't.
[12:13] <Omnipotent> ;_;
[12:13] <Omnipotent> Thank you so much TJ-
[12:13] <Omnipotent> and Ben64, I am sorry to be rude, thanks for the help.
[12:14] <Omnipotent> I honestly didn't knew that it's not Ubuntu.
[12:14] <Omnipotent> I wouldn't really pointlessly lie.
[12:14] <Ben64> usually people come in here knowing its not ubuntu :)
[12:14] <Omnipotent> xD
[12:14] <Omnipotent> Ben64, I don't use anything except Ubuntu anyway.. as I said not my device.
[12:15] <infidel> hi
[12:15] <TJ-> Omnipotent: after using that command you'll have in the current directory "./etc/apache2/apache2.conf"
[12:16] <XLV> anyone else here facing the "acpi pcc probe failed starting version 219" problem?
[12:16] <Omnipotent> TJ-, No need, I just simply purge remove and installed .. because you took a while to figure that out meanwhile impatient little me went and removed and installed it again :D
[12:16] <XLV> just upgraded to 15.04 on a i7 4770K/z87/nvidia gtx 760
[12:16] <TJ-> Omnipotent: From looking at the installer scripts it looks like if "/etc/apache2/conf.d/" exists then none of the .conf files are reinstalled
[12:17] <Omnipotent> oh
[12:17] <Omnipotent> what an odd ... logic.
[12:17] <Omnipotent> should have just rm -rf'ed /etc/apache2
[12:17] <Omnipotent> :D
[12:18] <XLV> funny thing is, the upgrade went well on a laptop with i7 4700qm, h87m or something, optimus with a gtx 765m, and on another laptop with i7 2720qm, gtx 560.. and failed on the desktop
[12:19] <TJ-> Omnipotent: That looks like a legitimate bug when doing a reinstall, but the scripts are written so that usually the absence of the file is assumed to be a deliberate act by the sysadmin indicating that the apache service should NOT start automatically, which is why it wasn't being replaced
[12:20] <Omnipotent> Oh?
[12:20] <Omnipotent> But in that case noone would --reinstall it.
[12:20] <Omnipotent> heck I even tried that.. apt-get -o "config: .. command.. which I don't recall off the top my head
[12:20] <Omnipotent> but I did read and wrote it.
[12:20] <zykotick9> Omnipotent: TJ- fyi, this is #debian's confmiss factoid (formatting isn't fantastic) http://paste.debian.net/212149/
[12:21] <Cyb3rn3t> ubuntu 14.04, does somebody know?: when I'd like to upload image for example facebook, and I need to browse, how can I see the thumbnails instead of the file names list ?
[12:21] <Omnipotent> right right .. that force-confmiss
[12:21] <Omnipotent> I did that with apt-get
[12:22] <Omnipotent> that didn't work either.. It was the FIRST accepted answer in Stack Overflow.
[12:22] <Omnipotent> so yes I dod.
[12:22] <Omnipotent> did*
[12:24] <TJ-> zykotick9: Thanks, that confirms my understanding. Nice to know there's an option "-o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' " to force reinstall
[12:27] <Omnipotent> TJ-, Thank you very much :-)
[12:28] <TJ-> zykotick9: Omnipotent actually it seems confmiss won't replace, as Omnipotent said: "confmiss: If a conffile is missing and the version in the package did  change" In this case the package version did not change
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:28] <Laurenceb__> hi
[12:29] <Laurenceb__> something is wrong with my desktop
[12:29] <Laurenceb__> i have no task bars
[12:29] <Omnipotent> anyone is aware of any streaming servers that support authentication?
[12:30] <Omnipotent> A simple authentication before starting the  stream is enough.. no need of encrypting entire stream.
[12:33] <TJ-> zykotick9: Omnipotent Actually, "confmiss" DOES work  I tested it, despite what the man pages say
[12:33] <Cyb3rn3t> Laurenceb__: did you tried to logout, login on tt2 and clear your cache dir ?
[12:33] <Omnipotent> Well, it didn't under this "Raspbian" it seems
[12:33] <Omnipotent> TJ-, you tried it with.. apt-get or aptitude?
[12:33] <TJ-> Omnipotent: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2.2-common -o Dpkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' " -> "Configuration file `/etc/apache2/apache2.conf', does not exist on system."  "Installing new config file as you requested."
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[12:34] <Laurenceb__> this is a major headache :-/
[12:34] <Omnipotent> TJ-, oh.
[12:34] <Omnipotent> strange.
[12:34] <TJ-> Omnipotent: I'm testing it on the same system you have there
[12:34] <Cyb3rn3t> Laurenceb__: fuck :/
[12:34] <Laurenceb__> I dont know how to get my machine into a usable state
[12:34] <Laurenceb__>  Window manager warning: Received a _NET_WM_MOVERESIZE message for 0x4e6b7ac (@l); these messages lack timestamps and therefore suck.
[12:34] <Laurenceb__> taskbars are back
[12:34] <Laurenceb__> but i cant open any more windows
[12:35] <TJ-> Laurenceb__: Sounds like the GPU ran out of memory for textures
[12:35] <Cyb3rn3t> Laurenceb__: I think your wm crashed
[12:35] <Laurenceb__> yeah i restarted my wm
[12:35] <TJ-> Laurenceb__: Which release of Ubuntu, and which desktop are you using?
[12:35] <Laurenceb__> metacity, this is an old 10.04 desktop im trying to upgrade
[12:36] <Cyb3rn3t> Laurenceb__: maybe I should try to restart the WM, or just the compiz, as compiz --replace
[12:36] <sveta> Laurenceb__: does alt+tab work?
[12:36] <sveta> to switch to another program and save your work, that is
[12:36] <Cyb3rn3t> if his WM crashed, he cannot use alt tab anymore
[12:38] <Cyb3rn3t> depends on what distro are you using
[12:39] <TJ-> Laurenceb__: You ought to be able to use wmctrl from a command-line
[12:41] <zamba> what is this nonsense with the emX interfaces? and how do i get rid of it?
[12:41] <zamba> i want my ethX
[12:43] <zykotick9> zamba: using specific driver names is the _new_ way for network devices... this is a way to go back to ethX/wlanX but i don't know it...
[12:43] <TJ-> Laurenceb__ (and others if the user returns): Switch to a VT with Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, then use " DISPLAY=:0.0 wmctrl -a "partial window title string"  "
[12:43] <zamba> zykotick9: *sigh*
[12:45] <cavallari> Hi
[12:45] <TJ-> zamba: It's a systemd-udevd/biosdevnames change to avoid interface renaming race conditions leaving interfaces unconfigured
[12:45] <cavallari> is there a way to create a bash in windows, and run on linux, without any problem?
[12:46] <TJ-> cavallari: Bash scripts are just text, so as long as they don't refer to OS-specific file paths or services, shell scripts should be portable
[12:46] <llutz> cavallari: a script you mean? its only a plain textfile, just make sure to use proper lineendings in your editor
[12:46] <Cyb3rn3t> cavallari: it doesnt matter where you write the script, but dont test under powershell...
[12:47] <cavallari> But I created a .sh wich writes out another file with EOF and a command in the end... but it writes the EOF and the command into the file
[12:47] <user> help for ltsp
[12:48] <Guest49458> want to configure ltsp on 12.04 and connect client to rdestop
[12:48] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: intresting
[12:49] <Guest49458> yup already done on open suse but now moved to ubuntu .. so need help
[12:49] <__Myst__> Do I need to do anything special to install feh?
[12:49] <__Myst__> Other than sudo apt-get install feh
[12:49] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: what I did once, to integrate the xfreerdp in to thei client image
[12:50] <__Myst__> It tls me I don't have an imlib2 loader for jpeg
[12:50] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: so client booted from ubuntu ltsp, and he got a windows rdp login session
[12:50] <Guest49458> correctr i need that
[12:52] <zykotick9> __Myst__: i'd suggest trying to install libjpeg-progs
[12:52] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: not a big deal, I found some instructions to create ltsp under ubuntu, but its a little tricky, so better to start searching on ubuntu forums..., as I remember, I had to add something in to the pxeboot config file
[12:53] <goju> My Ubuntu software centre crashes and I have a white hypen in a red button beside network icon which says : n Error occured please run package manager from right click menu or apt-get in a terminal to see what is wrong
[12:53] <__Myst__> I already have it, zykotick9
[12:53] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: after all you need to install the xrdp on to the ltsb build directory, and rebuild the images
[12:53] <Guest49458> o
[12:53] <Guest49458> ok
[12:54] <Guest49458> come at prvate chat
[12:54] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: AFAIK, there is complete solutions for this
[12:54] <Cyb3rn3t> Guest49458: openClient ?
[12:54] <Cyb3rn3t> http://openthinclient.org/de/openthinclient/
[12:54] <goju> Apart from this my Ubuntu sometimes darkens and freezes for 15-20 seconds and I often get repair option at start up
[12:55] <goju> what is hthe solution ?
[12:55] <zykotick9> __Myst__: ummm, sorry i got nothin' to suggest then.  good luck.  /me uses feh and has jpeg support... you might want to check "apt-cache depends feh" (on ubuntu) and see if anything is recommended that isn't installed.
[12:58] <goju> I am unale to run the package manager as suggested
[12:58] <TJ-> __Myst__: Have you "sudo apt-get install libimlib2" ?
[12:58] <goju> Plz Plz Plz any solution ?
[12:59] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: I remember that
[12:59] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: that is just an alert if something is went wrong with upgrade...
[13:00] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: that is not a problem, and it wont disappear until a new upgrade is finished successfully
[13:00] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: so just do the follows in a terminal window:
[13:00] <PCatinean> My internet connection seems to buffer badly and go really slow sometimes in this fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 when in windows it seems all ok
[13:00] <PCatinean> Any idea how I can debug this?
[13:00] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: sudo apt-get clean; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade -y
[13:01] <Cyb3rn3t> PCatinean: It looks like a wifi driver problem
[13:01] <PCatinean> Standard, and I think in the previous install I did nothing different and it worked ok
[13:02] <Cyb3rn3t> PCatinean: What does it mean Standard ? :D Go to system setting, software and updates, and addictional drivers tab
[13:03] <Cyb3rn3t> PCatinean: what choises do you have there ?
[13:03] <TJ-> PCatinean: buffers for all content or specific types, or from specific sites?
[13:03] <PCatinean> Cyb3rn3t, strictly vga related ones
[13:03] <PCatinean> TJ-, youtube the most common
[13:03] <TJ-> PCatinean: so, video content?
[13:04] <PCatinean> only yes
[13:04] <TJ-> PCatinean: Have you run a remote latency/speed test on the connection just in case there's some intermittent issue?
[13:04] <goju> Cyb3rn3t: do I have to type out these commands one after the another in the terminal window or any on e of them will do
[13:04] <PCatinean> TJ-, no I have not to be honest
[13:04] <TJ-> PCatinean: always worth doing to save pulling your hair out when it's a temporary network issue
[13:04] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: whatever
[13:05] <sicom> yo
[13:05] <sicom> Cyb3rn3t:szevasz!
[13:05] <goju> ok trying the commands one after another.
[13:05] <PCatinean> That sounds about right, how do I do it TJ- ?
[13:05] <goju> plz do not go afk
[13:06] <TJ-> PCatinean: find some speedtest internet site like http://speedtest.net
[13:06] <TJ-> PCatinean: although that site require (urghh!) flash!
[13:07] <TJ-> PCatinean: an alternative is http://http://speedof.me/
[13:07] <TJ-> PCatinean: an alternative is http://speedof.me/
[13:07] <mikubuntu> TJ-: success with ubuntu 1204 running live, but i wonder if it will be too clunky for this little netbook. do you think i might have luck with lubuntu 12.04 as well? oops, spoke too soon, some problem activating broadcom driver
[13:09] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Always issues with Broadcom :p  You can install lubuntu as an alternative desktop with "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^"
[13:09] <mikubuntu> TJ-: hmmmm ... i suppose the problem downloading the broadcom driver is that i don't have a wired connection on the box, huh.
[13:10] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Then, next time you start the display manager you'll get an option to choose between desktops, Ubuntu or Lubuntu
[13:10] <TJ-> mikubuntu: That would sound sensible, yes :)
[13:10] <goju> apt-get upgrade -y returns : E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[13:11] <mikubuntu> yes, i forgot about that just adding the the desktop alternative TJ-
[13:11] <TJ-> goju: Those commands need root privileges; prefix them with "sudo "
[13:11] <Cyb3rn3t> TJ, PCatinean: BTW, last week I installed ubuntu 14.04 on my old laptop, and I had this issue :S Every day morning I had to restart the router, and it worked for 1 day, but after the transmiss speed go down under 1MBit...., there was no simmilar channel there, and the tr signal was very good.... I changed the OS, and it works well now
[13:11] <goju> thanks
[13:11] <PCatinean> that's...strange?
[13:11] <TJ-> Cyb3rn3t: That sounds like a network driver issue
[13:12] <Cyb3rn3t> TJ-: that was I suppoused
[13:12] <AppAraat> hello, I'm a bit familiar with the CLI and wanted to install the latest 15.04 Ubuntu minimal. My end goal is to have i3wm desktop configured and perhaps along with an XFCE desktop. Is there anything I should keep in mind?
[13:12] <TJ-> Cyb3rn3t: Used to see that alot with Intel IWL{3,4}9x5 chipsets when trying to use 802.11n (MIMO) - the solution was to lock them to use only 802.11G
[13:13] <goju> It returns: Reading package lists... Error!
[13:13] <goju> E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error)
[13:13] <goju> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:13] <TJ-> goju: That suggests the system's package lists under /var/lib/apt/lists/ may be corrupted
[13:14] <brainwash> AppAraat: anything? like what?
[13:14] <TJ-> goju: If the /ar/lib/dpkg/status file is corrupt you'd need to restore it from a back-up
[13:14] <AppAraat> brainwash: like some gotchas or required and/or interesting reading material. Otherwise experience from other people would be fine too :)
[13:15] <maxb> Having upgraded an old netbook from trusty to utopic to vivid, it now tries to sleep / suspend-to-memory spuriously during boot - sometimes repeatedly. I'm inclined to blame systemd. Any thoughts on how to further analyse the problem, anyone?
[13:15] <Cyb3rn3t> goju: try to remove any added repos from the sources.list
[13:16] <brainwash> AppAraat: well, you have to be a bit more specific. ideally, you should just go for it and then ask here if you encounter some issue(s)
[13:16] <PCatinean> TJ-, I might be able to do that as well but why did the previous installation have no problems and this one does? because it's 14.04.2?
[13:16] <TJ-> maxb: Look for clues in the system logs, especially "/var/log/kern.log"
[13:16] <Cyb3rn3t> maxb: this bug is present in 14.04 too, this is happening with my laptop, when the battery is running out of powaaaaa
[13:17] <TJ-> PCatinean: I can't explain it, it might be a driver config issue or something else entirely. These issues need to use a process of elimination  to reduce the possibilities
[13:17] <drake766> hey guys how safe is to store cronjob in /home/someholder?
[13:17] <maxb> TJ-: I'm tentatively thinking this is a userland problem, something seems to be causing systemd to fire off its sleep handling for no reason
[13:17] <PCatinean> Download speed is 1.47mb/s and upload 10.21mb/s
[13:17] <ikonia> drake766: why would it noot be safe ?
[13:18] <TJ-> maxb: Is the battery reporting good charge at the time?
[13:18] <maxb> Yes, it's fully charged
[13:18] <TJ-> PCatinean: that download looks very low
[13:18] <PCatinean> Though it simply stops streaming videos from time to time on multiple streaming services
[13:18] <PCatinean> No problems in Windows though, hmm
[13:18] <TJ-> maxb: Does the same happen if the netbook is powered by the charger
[13:18] <molgrum> what's the difference between package "node", "nodejs" and "nodejs-legacy"?
[13:18] <drake766> i dont know my client complains so i dont know what to answer him
[13:19] <AppAraat> brainwash: yeah I suppose I should. Could I install it on one computer, transfer its HDD to another computer... would everything be able to work on that second computer without issues (since the kernel 'autodetects' hardware by itself) ?
[13:19] <TJ-> AppAraat: If the 2nd doesn't have hardware that requires proprietary binary blobs to be loaded, it should be fine
[13:20] <zykotick9> AppAraat: as TJ- mentioned proprietary wireless/video could be an issue.  as would amd64->i386 architecture.
[13:20] <maxb> TJ-: Yes. It really doesn't look like a low-power event is related at all
[13:21] <AppAraat> ah hmm, I'll keep that in mind
[13:21] <TJ-> maxb: Hmmm. I'd *hope* there was something in the log files
[13:22] <maxb> There are messages saying systemd is activating sleep.target, but not why
[13:22] <goju> Thanks a lot Cyb3rn3t I ran all the command as you suggested as root adding sudo and the red sign is there no more.
[13:22] <TJ-> maxb: The other option is to configure the kernel with netconsole logging over a wired network and capture the console log message on another PC
[13:23] <maxb> You think log messages are being lost that aren't making it to normal files, even though it's just doing a suspend-to-memory?
[13:24] <TJ-> maxb: it depends on when the sleep occurs. It could be before the root FS is mounted r/w
[13:25] <maxb> it
[13:25] <maxb> it's fairly late. the FS is definitely up
[13:25] <maxb> plus, I can just resume and continue looking at the system state
[13:26] <TJ-> maxb: OK, then you might find something there to give a clue
[13:30] <maxb> Sadly there really isn't anything
[13:31] <TJ-> maxb: take a read of this answer and the thread it is on generally; it may be related
[13:31] <TJ-> maxb: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg02213.html
[13:32] <TrebleChef> i have a 8core cpu and I notice compiz is taking around 60 percent of that. I have changed it to "fast" but it still consumes massive amounts of cpu, this is a virtual machine, any way to forgo the fancy compiz visuals in exchange for my cpu back?
[13:32] <maxb> Other interesting datapoints - the sleeping seems somewhat blocked by entering a desktop session, but if I go to tty1, it repeatedly sleeps
[13:33] <maxb> and, by creating a hook in /lib/systemd/system-sleep/ that never exits, the sleeping seems delayed
[13:33] <TJ-> maxb: what make/model of PC is it?
[13:33] <OmiKrOn> so I have these routes
[13:33] <OmiKrOn> 10.50.0.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.50.0.163
[13:33] <OmiKrOn> x.x.x.x via 10.50.0.80 dev eth0  proto static
[13:33] <OmiKrOn> y.y.y.y via 10.50.0.80 dev eth0  proto static
[13:33] <maxb> Aspire One D150
[13:33] <OmiKrOn> the y.y.y.y (2nd) one is failing at random times
[13:33] <maxb> Acer
[13:33] <OmiKrOn> any ideas?
[13:34] <trijntje> TrebleChef: maybe give the virtual machine access to your video card? 3d/2d acceleration. Or just install a light version of ubuntu like lubuntu
[13:34] <TJ-> maxb: Haha!!!! ACPI bug ... in that thread I linked for you, is this one, see footnote [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg02168.html
[13:35] <TrebleChef> i see, apparently its not enabled by default in virtualbox.
[13:35] <TJ-> maxb: In summary, you need the latest BIOS update from Acer than fixes a bug where ACPI is continuously reporting to the operating system that the lid has been closed
[13:35] <ikonia> TJ-: excellent work !
[13:36] <mikubuntu> TJ-: so if i manage to get ubuntu 1204 installed, and then i sudo add lubuntu desktop, will it automagically retrieve lubuntu 1204 or will it reach for the most current version which will be a problem?
[13:37] <Alina-malina> maxb, this drake766 asked a question i am curious about it as well? Does the files created by root will be seen in this /home/somefolder directory?
[13:37] <maxb> TJ-: Wow. Thanks. If only something logged something about lid state, that would have been much less frustrating! :-)
[13:37] <trijntje> mikubuntu: you will get the 12.04 version, but why not intall lubuntu directly?
[13:37] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Lubuntu is just an alternative set of packages nothing magically, it's packaged as an ISO to make it easy to install from scratch. If it installs and works OK you can remove the ubuntu-desktop packages
[13:37] <TJ-> maxb: Don't say that until you've proved this is the issue!!
[13:39] <TJ-> maxb: My next suggestion would have been to enable a lot more kernel debug messages including acpi.debug=xxxx
[13:40] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i don't mind having both desktop environments available. now i'm seeing i have another (unexpected) problem. this hp mini 1000 doesnt appear to have ethernet port, how am i supposed to download the wireless driver for broadcom? arrrrgh.
[13:41] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Are you ready to throw it at the wall yet? :D
[13:41] <mikubuntu> TJ-: getting close
[13:42] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'm reading that the 210 does have an ethernet port
[13:42] <maxb> TJ-: It looks distinctly like HandleLidSwitch=ignore has worked around it nicely, so this seems fairly proven - thanks again!  Off to find a BIOS update, I guess
[13:43] <mikubuntu> TJ-: can u give me the pagelink so i can see it i can't locate one
[13:44] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Page 2 "Integrated Realtek RTL8105EL" http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02501444.pdf
[13:48] <QuantumVacuum> Hello all. I'm running Ubuntu 15.04 with unity. When I move my cursor to the very top of the screen, it disappears. Any ideas?
[13:50] <mikubuntu> TJ-: this apparently not the same unit, does not look the same. i notice that i've seen many references to hp mini 210 1000, but the sticker on the bottom of this just says hp mini 1000, so there is some difference
[13:51] <OmiKrOn> top of the screen is the door to Narnia
[13:51] <Peter-C> I have a Ubuntu Server 14.04.2 with a 1GB/s connection. When I run Speedtest-CLI I am only getting 40 up 40 down. Mii-tool says this: eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok
[13:51] <QuantumVacuum> Haha indeed
[13:51] <TJ-> mikubuntu: is there any model reference number on the sticker beside that
[13:52] <TJ-> mikubuntu: If it's running try: "lspci -nnv" and look for 'Ethernet" or "Realtek"
[13:52] <OmiKrOn> Peter-C:maybe that's the limit set up by your ISP on their end
[13:52] <Peter-C> Server is on a VM. It runs a full 1gb/s on a Windows box which works
[13:52] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok lemme see
[13:52] <Peter-C> OmiKrOn, http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4416221261 this is the Windows VM, same connection. Tried turning the Windows VM off, still only get 40 up 40 down
[13:53] <freezer__> Peter-C, ubuntu is a VM or windows?
[13:53] <OmiKrOn> Peter-C: what CPU do you have there?
[13:53] <Peter-C> Both run off an ESXI box
[13:53] <freezer__> Peter-C, and the windows VM does get full 1Gbit in speedtest?
[13:53] <Peter-C> Yes freezer__ - http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4416221261
[13:54] <OmiKrOn> I hardly imagine that to happen freezer__
[13:54] <freezer__> Peter-C, which country is the server hosted in?
[13:54] <Peter-C> US
[13:55] <Peter-C> It's in a Datacenter. No access to physical box.
[13:55] <freezer__> Peter-C, try wget -O /dev/null http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/15.04/ubuntu-15.04-desktop-i386.iso
[13:55] <TJ-> Peter-C: Any bandwidth limits set in the port group definition?
[13:55] <freezer__> Peter-C, in the ubuntu shell
[13:56] <Peter-C> I get ~40MB down. Now idea how to do a preformance test for upload though
[13:56] <Peter-C> Last night I was getting 200 down, 40 up.
[13:57] <Peter-C> Tried making a new Ubuntu server fresh. Same issue.
[13:57] <freezer__> Peter-C, 40Mbyte or 40Mbit?
[13:57] <Peter-C> It runs the same config as the Wundows
[13:57] <Peter-C> freezer__, Byte
[13:57] <OmiKrOn> Peter-C:what does mii-tool say?
[13:57] <Peter-C> *40 MB now on a download, 40 megabit upload
[13:57] <freezer__> does it use native drivers for the NIC or legacy? Not that familiar with VMWare though
[13:57] <mikubuntu> TJ-:  looks like model# 1030NR
[13:58] <Peter-C> eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok
[13:58] <freezer__> Peter-C, so thats like 350Mbit download
[13:58] <Peter-C> The upload is still poor, which is really what I care about.
[13:58] <Peter-C> It is still weirds that the download is pretty decent, but upload is bad.
[13:59] <freezer__> Peter-C, that doesn't have to mean anything, could still be some sort of compatability driver
[13:59] <freezer__> maybe you need to install some sort of guest modules for best NIC performance
[13:59] <OmiKrOn> Peter-C: have you played there with tc qdisc or something similar?
[13:59] <Peter-C> OmiKrOn, no
[13:59] <OmiKrOn> have you installed vmware-tools?
[13:59] <TJ-> mikubuntu: "Integrated 10/100 network interface card (NIC)" according to page 2 of http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01683469
[14:00] <OmiKrOn> Peter-C:  have you installed vmware-tools on that guest?
[14:00] <Peter-C> OmiKrOn, neg,
[14:00] <Peter-C> will try that now
[14:00] <OmiKrOn> do it, reboot and test again
[14:01] <TJ-> mikubuntu: According to the illustrations its on the left side nearest the hinge with a cover over irt
[14:01] <OmiKrOn> then google for answers if it's still not working because this is a HAL layer issue
[14:01] <OmiKrOn> I am sure it will work with something with e1000 or vmxnet3...not sure which one is compatible with yours
[14:02] <smainoo> hi guys , is there anyone who know how i can compile an old linux kernel like v2.0.1 on host machine with a new kernel ?
[14:03] <OmiKrOn> smainoo: what troubles are you running into?
[14:04] <smainoo> OmiKron : problems with Gcc , i read some articles on how you can use an older Gcc version in the same host machine , but seems ver annoying path
[14:05] <OmiKrOn> yeah I think you have to go to #gcc for that
[14:05] <TJ-> mikubuntu: In the bug tracker someone claiming to have the 1030NR has an lspci that shows: "02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8040 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller [11ab:4354]"
[14:06] <nickhs> smainoo: You may prefer to run an old release of ubuntu in a virtual machine - you fetch old releases from http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ and tools like vagrant and virtualbox will help you
[14:06] <TJ-> smainoo: quickest way might be to use a virtual machine or chroot or LXC and install a very old version of Debian in it that has the GCC version required to build the 2.x kernel
[14:07] <smainoo> nickhs & TJ- : this is the idea i was searching for ;)
[14:08] <smainoo> nickhs : thank you
[14:08] <smainoo> TJ_: thank you
[14:08] <smainoo> TJ- : thank you
[14:09] <TJ-> smainoo: my mainline/Ubuntu git repos don't have tags for 2.01 so I'd guess you'll need Debian rather than Ubuntu gcc packages to do it
[14:09] <mikubuntu> TJ-:  this looks like the right unit, but it doesn't show an ethernet port that i can see http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01683469 -- i just took a pic of the lspci nnv readout, and its similar to what you say with the marvel tech but i CANT find an eth0 port
[14:09] <mikubuntu> TJ-: gnna post pic to imagebin
[14:09] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Everywhere I've seen it mentioned its behind a plastic cover with a very small network icon i it
[14:12] <beterraba> test
[14:12] <Guest49458> help about ltsp
[14:12] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Left side, nearest the front with a headphone jack socket next to it?
[14:12] <beterraba> help ltsp
[14:13] <cfhowlett> !ltsp | beterraba
[14:14] <mikubuntu> TJ-: http://imagebin.ca/v/24XGIzGm0dD6
[14:15] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Now take photos of the left, right, and rear edges please :)
[14:17] <BluesKaj> mikubuntu, don't use the flash on your camera
[14:17] <mikubuntu> TJ-: dOH! yes, left side front with a little rubber cover -- let me go hook up and see if i can dl the driver. but the driver installer has been hung up for the last half hour going back and forth and won't shut down, don't know if that's gonna be a problem.
[14:17] <TJ-> mikubuntu: YAY!
[14:17] <dougquaid> I'm running 14.04 and I want to change my hostname. I've edited /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname. How do I make the changes take effect. In earlier versions of ubuntu I thought it wast /etc/init.d/hostname restart, but that file doesn't exist in 14.04
[14:18] <BluesKaj> dougquaid, rebot
[14:18] <BluesKaj> er reboot
[14:18] <cfhowlett> robot?
[14:18] <mikubuntu> BluesKaj: yeah i see that, sry
[14:18] <Alina-malina> maxb, this drake766 asked a question i am curious about it as well? Does the files created by root will be seen in this /home/somefolder directory?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> are you a bot cfhowlett, you reacted too quickly :-)
[14:19] <dougquaid> BluesKaj: What is this, Windows? I'm sure there's a way to do it without reboot
[14:19] <TJ-> dougquaid: "sudo hostname myhostname"
[14:19] <cfhowlett> :)
[14:19] <kev999> Hi, just installed suPHP on ubuntu 14.04lts and new folders / files are being created with permissions 700 and 755 - I want them as 0755 644 - where do I make the update - read something about umask, but don't know where this is defined either - plse help
[14:19] <BluesKaj> dougquaid, when I changed hostnames I had to reboot, dunno whay tho
[14:19] <dougquaid> TJ-: Thanks
[14:21] <nicomachus> hi guys, question about installing a second distro alongside ubuntu: if my full disk is encrypted currently, can I still install a second partition the normal way? I know I can't change the size of an encrypted petition with gparted because it has to be manually, but I'm not sure how the partitioning is done on install
[14:22] <TJ-> nicomachus: No, not easily *unless* the current OS is installed using LVM inside the encrypted partition
[14:23] <nicomachus> yea it's LVM.
[14:23] <nicomachus> wait, nvm, I see what you're saying.
[14:23] <nicomachus> could I install a *second* OS inside the partition? Or would it just wipe the first?
[14:26] <TJ-> nicomachus: It would depend on the installer. In that situation I'd do it manually. Create a new LV with sufficient space, mount it as a drive for a virtual machine, and then install the new OS into the VM without allowing it to install a boot-loader. Then I'd shutdown the VM and have the system boot-loader discover the alternative OS and add it as a boot option
[14:26] <n-iCe> hi
[14:27] <TJ-> nicomachus: If the installer insists on a boot loader being installed I'd configure the VM with a 2nd, small LV, for it to write the bootloader to, and then destroy that later
[14:29] <nicomachus> That's a pretty interesting way to do it. Worth a shot.
[14:33] <nicomachus> Thanks for the advice, TJ-
[14:33] <The-Silence> hi there
[14:34] <The-Silence> i need to upgrade my activemq (5.6.0) in ubuntu trusty...
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> !find activemq
[14:35] <The-Silence> i've installed, but always going to version 5.6.0
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> The-Silence  yes, vivid has 5.6.0 in the repos
[14:36] <The-Silence> MonkeyDust: i've install puppetlab repo
[14:36] <The-Silence> so, it's suposed to going from there...
[14:36] <The-Silence> this is weird
[14:37] <The-Silence> MonkeyDust: there's a way to upgrade it?
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> The-Silence  i'm not familiar enough with puppet
[14:37] <nicomachus> The-Silence: if you've run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade then it should be up to date
[14:37] <The-Silence> i've done that :\
[14:38] <The-Silence> i've removed the packages and install it again..
[14:39] <TJ-> nicomachus: I've often fooled installers in the past in that scenario by using several separate loop mount devices to make up a single md device in RAID-0 config, so I'll have a 2048 sector file for the MBR area then an LVM for the first partition. Then use the MD device in the VM to install to and it thinks it sees a single device and writes the MBR code into the 2048 sector prefix file. You set it up so the first partition starts where the 2048 sector file ends
[14:39] <TJ-> and then you get a complete install without issues and can ditch the 2048 sector file after.
[14:43] <TJ-> nicomachus: If you choose that route you should use MD metadata veresion 1.0 (which stores its metadata at the end of the MD device) and have a small binary file *after* the LVM as well where the MD superblock will be written to, which can be discarded later. I usually make that the same size as the prefix (2048 sectors) although I think it only needs to be 64 sectors
[14:48] <ANJ7> I'm not receiving the update of messages in chatbox of facebook
[14:48] <ANJ7> I'm using ubuntu 14.10
[14:48] <nicomachus> facebook <----there's your problem
[14:48] <mikubuntu> TJ-: don't know what to do -- i had to restart the unit to get the driver installer to shut down so i could restart in on ethernet. now it tells me that its connected, but i started firefox to make sure, and it's hung up again. if i power off to shut it down will it lose all live settings?
[14:48] <ANJ7> nicomachus: its the problem of operating system.
[14:49] <ANJ7> all the browsers do that
[14:50] <PCatinean> can someone help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219014
[14:50] <mikubuntu> TJ-: cursor stopped working as well
[14:50] <nicomachus> Just a joke, ANJ7. What's the problem specifically? You're using facebook chat in the browser, but you aren't receiving messages?
[14:50] <TJ-> mikubuntu: You mean the PC is claiming to be connected over Ethernet?
[14:50] <PCatinean> I tried the commands but it says on the first modprobe that the driver is in use
[14:50] <PCatinean> not sure where to move onto
[14:50] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Is it using the Ubuntu desktop or lubuntu?
[14:50] <Micromus> Say I need a simple nginx webserver, what version/how do I install ubuntu so that it takes as little space as possible? My current "mini" install over the internet takes 1200mb before anything else is installed!
[14:50] <mikubuntu> TJ-: its actually claiming to have made the wireless connection, which is conceivable
[14:51] <ANJ7> nicomachus: hmm...ok, i'll just leave. It'll be solved when I update my system to 15
[14:51] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i mean, it did seem to download the driver
[14:51] <zerowaitstate> is anyone here familiar with auditd?
[14:51] <TJ-> mikubuntu: but if the wifi driver is bad, incomplete (broadcome sometimes need binary blobs for firmware) then it won't work. I'd prefer to work off Ethernet wired until I was sure
[14:51] <ANJ7> after 2-3 months...
[14:51] <nicomachus> ANJ7: Sorry, I'm trying to help.
[14:51] <nicomachus> ANJ7: I tried to ask what exactly your problem was.
[14:51] <ANJ7> nicomachus: oh, ok. lets try
[14:52] <TJ-> Micromus: Server ISO is usually the base for that
[14:52] <nicomachus> You're using facebook chat in the browser, but you aren't receiving messages, correct?
[14:52] <Micromus> TJ-: well yes, but can I use snappy core for example as well?
[14:52] <ANJ7> nicomachus: the messages in my inbox aren't showing up until I refresh the browser.
[14:52] <mikubuntu> TJ-: oh. the eth0 cable is in another room was part of why i took so long
[14:53] <nicomachus> Ok, ANJ7.
[14:53] <nicomachus> Give me a minute.
[14:53] <TJ-> Micromus: I'm not sure, I've not looked
[14:53] <nicomachus> and just for clarity, ANJ7, what browser and ubuntu version?
[14:53] <mikubuntu> TJ-: should i power it down now, and see if the wireless is working on restart?
[14:54] <ANJ7> nicomachus: Firefox, 14.10
[14:54] <nicomachus> Thanks ANJ7
[14:54] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i think ubuntu is using all her little resources
[14:54] <TJ-> mikubuntu: You can test it from the command line
[14:54] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i wish there were a damn small ubuntu
[14:55] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Yes, if the cursor is lagging thats why I asked if you're using the Ubuntu desktop because that will hog the system. Lubuntu should be a lot lighter on the system
[14:55] <cfhowlett> !mini | miku
[14:55] <mikubuntu> TJ-: don't think i can get a term up even -- all froze up
[14:55] <nicomachus> ANJ7: This look similar: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1612922.html
[14:55] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Try pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a different Virtual Terminal, then log-in
[14:55] <nicomachus> ANJ7: have you tried clearing cache/cookies? And then if that doesn't work, purging and reinstalling firefox?
[14:56] <ANJ7> nicomachus: yea, I tried everything.
[14:57] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: problem is that i need a live session to gpart another problem before installation :: see this https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/
[14:58] <nicomachus> I wonder... does facebook chat work though Flash?
[14:58] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok cntrl alt f1 ... lemme try
[14:58] <hplc_> whenever i experience a "freeze-up" i do r.e.i.s.u.b havent failed me yet
[14:59] <nicomachus> ANJ7: Any add-ons or extensions on firefox that might be interfering?
[15:00] <mikubuntu> hplc -- i've been a newbie for so long (7.04) that i forgot what a reisub is -- i know its something, but i forgot what
[15:00] <ANJ7> ok
[15:00] <hplc_> a key-pushing combination that is guareenteed to reboot a stuck linux cleanly
[15:01] <TJ-> mikubuntu: It's the Linux kernel commands with SysReq
[15:02] <TJ-> mikubuntu: raw keyboard, TERM processes except init,  KILL process except init, sync file-system, remount read-only, reboot
[15:02] <mikubuntu> TJ-: not getting a term with control alt f1
[15:03] <wastrel> terminal is ctrl-t isn't it?
[15:03] <TJ-> mikubuntu: is the cpu hung up with trying to paint the screen and lagging ?
[15:03] <nicomachus> wastrel: ctrl-alt-t
[15:03] <k1l> wastrel: ctrl+alt+t
[15:03] <nicomachus> but mine is set to ctrl-t
[15:03] <wastrel> mine is ctrl-space
[15:03] <hplc_> ....noone ctrl space, its a global agreement :p
[15:03] <nicomachus> qwieso
[15:04] <nicomachus> weirdo* (hand in the wrong spot...)
[15:04] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i could take a screenshot with my phone if you want to see it -- i assume the cpu is hung up on something, but i don't know what
[15:05] <rory> "ip -4 addr show" gives: inet 176.31.101.78/24 brd 176.31.101.255 scope global eth0
[15:05] <rory> Does this mean the entire /24 is available...?
[15:05] <kuba7447> is synaptic package manager better?
[15:05] <rory> kuba7447: better than what?
[15:06] <kuba7447> better than the default thing in Ubuntu?
[15:06] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Is this the Ubuntu Live image you're running, or an installed OS?
[15:07] <rory> kuba7447: It depends what you want to do. In many ways Ubuntu Software Centre is better (not least because it also handles .deb)
[15:07] <rory> kuba7447: But in many other ways, synaptic is better
[15:07] <kuba7447> ok, but if i install synaptic package manager, how will i install .deb ?
[15:08] <kuba7447> via terminal?
[15:08] <rory> kuba7447: well you can still use Ubutnu Software Centre, you're able to have both at once, you don't have to choose one or the other
[15:08] <rory> kuba7447: they are both just graphical interfaces to the package manager
[15:08] <kuba7447> ok
[15:08] <TJ-> rory: The /24 means the subnet the interface/IP will route is 256 addresses wide
[15:08] <mikubuntu> TJ-: live -- i have to get a live session to fix the hp mini partitions, according to https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/
[15:09] <lyndel> guys i am having a problem, every time i boot up lightdm fails to start some times it starts other times am forced to go to tty 1 and use sudo service lightdm stop then start just to get login screen will the boot help with this? to see why its failing to start?
[15:09] <rory> TJ-: So it does not mean I am able to listen on all of those addresses?
[15:09] <lyndel> boot log i ment
[15:09] <rory> TJ-: I[m just trying to clarify if my host has given me an entire /24 which seems excessive, but could be erroneous
[15:10] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Ahhhh! and it expects to have video GPU 3D acceleration, which is having to be emulated in software which overloads the CPU. It'd probably make more sense to use another live image with a less demanding desktop; not sure what's available but xubuntu is one I think
[15:10] <mikubuntu> TJ-: thats why i'm asking if i should power off and then restart, wondering will it save wireless driver stuff (if in fact it really did download and connect, as it notified)
[15:10] <TJ-> rory: Correct, the sub-net mask is the range of address that can be 'seen' on that interface
[15:10] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, lubuntu is the least resource hungry *buntu
[15:10] <rory> ahh, without using a different route
[15:11] <rory> comprende
[15:11] <TJ-> rory: you can have multiple IP address assigned to an interface each with their own subnets of course
[15:11] <TJ-> cfhowlett: do you know if lubuntu has a live ISO?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> TJ-, it does.  all *buntus have live except server and mini IIRC
[15:11] <PCatinean> Hey gus, I have a RT5390 wireless module and I've read it's buggy regarding the N channel or something of that sort, can someone help me stop it please?
[15:11] <PCatinean> I can't seem to figure it out on my own
[15:11] <lyndel> i tryed the wiki but i get no help i tryed ubuntu faq and troubleshoot page but when i thought it was fixed next day same problem again
[15:12] <PCatinean> Trying this atm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219014
[15:12] <mikubuntu> TJ-: cfhowlett i prefer lubuntu -- i wonder if 1204 will work or give me the black screen of death
[15:12] <TJ-> cfhowlett: Hmmm, I seemed to recall being caught out by that once with a low powered netbook and there not being a Live ISO for it
[15:12] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Is it the lubuntu Live image you're using now, ir the Ubuntu Live? I'm getting confused and tired :)
[15:12] <k1l> lyndel: see dmesg, syslog and xorg.log in /var/log/ to get to know why its not starting
[15:13] <cfhowlett> TJ-, 14.04 def has a live boot
[15:13] <lyndel> thanks kil
[15:13] <PCatinean> anyone?
[15:13] <meandrain> I've done some tests so I just dd-ed first 512 bytes of my hard drive. I am on ubuntu livecd now, and pvscan and vgscan show "no matching physical volumes found. Any idea what to do?
[15:13] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ubuntu live -- lubuntu 1404 was giving me black screen of death
[15:13] <TJ-> cfhowlett: mikubuntu us having to use 12.04; the netbook has a black-screen issue with the 14.04 live images we were trying earlier today
[15:14] <TJ-> mikubuntu: You're not having much luck are you!?
[15:15] <mikubuntu> TJ-: everything is a gotcha. going on day 4 i guess with this little box.
[15:15] <TJ-> meandrain: replace those first 512 bytes you erased; that's the partition table if its an MBR disk not GPT
[15:15] <meandrain> TJ-: I need to mount the lvn volume in order to restore grub
[15:16] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I feel your pain. If it were me I'd pull the hard disk out connect it to another PC, mount it in a virtual machine, and install into it there to get the config correct, then move it back to the HP mini :)
[15:16] <lyndel> Kil what to look for in the logs?
[15:16] <mikubuntu> so, i dont see this getting unhung anytime soon -- whats the consensus recommendation -- lubuntu 1204?
[15:16] <TJ-> meandrain: Well, you *did* backup sector 0 before you wrote to it, didn't you?
[15:17] <cfhowlett> of COURSE he did a backup!
[15:17] <meandrain> no, I did not. I am learning how to restore it without backup
[15:17] <meandrain> the hard way
[15:17] <mikubuntu> TJ-: thats because you're smarter than me :P
[15:17] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Why not install 'server' that has no GUI to get in the way of the installation... then you can add the desktop packages afterwards when the PC is configured for all its hardware and is booting reliably
[15:18] <TJ-> meandrain: The only way to recover is if you can remember precisely what the partition layout was, or in a Live session install and use the 'testdisk' package to recover the partition table
[15:19] <meandrain> TJ-: but lvm touches first 512 bytes?
[15:19] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Install from a server ISO then, that keeps you using the console terminals
[15:19] <lyndel> can anyone help?
[15:19] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i'll try anything once -- but you said you're getting tired, and i KNOW i'll need a babysitter for that one.
[15:19] <TJ-> meandrain: No it doesn't but it needs to know where the partitions are to identify the PVs
[15:20] <TJ-> mikubuntu: The server install uses a text-based installer that draws dialogs and menus using text windows, it's pretty easy to use
[15:20] <k1l> lyndel: stuff that says its an error
[15:20] <mikubuntu> TJ-: so can you tell me ezackly which image to burn?
[15:20] <lyndel>  guys i am having a problem, every time i boot up lightdm fails to start some times it starts other times am forced to go to tty 1 and use sudo service lightdm stop then start just to get login screen will the boot help with this? to see why its failing to start?  looking at the logs i confusing
[15:20] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'd choose the 14.04 i386 server ISO
[15:20] <k1l> lyndel: you can put them into a pastebin and then show the urls here. be sure to have the logs from that boot where the problem was.
[15:20] <lyndel> oh ok
[15:20] <mikubuntu> TJ-: but wait -- what about the partition problem :: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/
[15:21] <TJ-> mikubuntu: At the end of the server installer when it asks which specific server packages you want to install (LAMP, web-server, mail server, etc) simply don't select any and you'll have a minimal installation
[15:21] <k1l> lyndel: what video card do you got? is it a hybrid card (video card and build in cpu video?)
[15:21] <lyndel> kil its ATI
[15:22] <TJ-> mikubuntu: There is a partitioning tool in the installer. You can use that to delete the HP Tools partition and create a new empty partition in its place
[15:22] <k1l> lyndel: "which car do you have?" " a ford" :)
[15:23] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[15:23] <kuba7447> should i get an NAS ?
[15:24] <TJ-> mikubuntu: review this link: http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2013/02/manual-disk-partition-guide-for-ubuntu-server-edition.html
[15:24] <TJ-> mikubuntu: It gives you some idea of how the partitioner in the text installer works so you can perform the same tasks as shown in that GPartEd tutorial
[15:25] <lyndel> kil this? http://paste.opensuse.org/5076586
[15:25] <lyndel> lol i dont have a car man :P
[15:25] <k1l> lyndel: (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)
[15:26] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok i will, but doesnt the partitioning have to be done PRIOR to the rest of the installation? should i dban the netbook would that 'clear' the space for partitioning?
[15:26] <k1l> lyndel: what card do you have _exactly_ and how did you install the driver?
[15:26] <lyndel> what does it mean?
[15:26] <rory> Is there some way to tell Firefox to ignore all invalid certificates for a domain (e.g *.foo.com)
[15:26] <rory> "This connection is untrusted" message
[15:26] <TJ-> mikubuntu: No, partitioning can, and is, usually done during installation.
[15:26] <rory> preferably without an attached lecture on HTTPS
[15:26] <lyndel> oh am using the driver that came with ubuntu 15.04 and i said ATI is there a command to show u my card?
[15:27] <k1l> lyndel: my joke was about to tell you that details matter.
[15:27] <TJ-> rory: for subdomains as well you mean?
[15:27] <lyndel> ohh
[15:27] <k1l> lyndel: "lspci" into a pastebin too please
[15:27] <lyndel> ok
[15:27] <rory> TJ-: Yes
[15:27] <d3bug> hello everyone
[15:28] <meandrain> TJ-: thanx for the help, I really appreciate it! So if I understand correctly if I install windows and it wipes my boot sector then when booting using a live cd I will not see lvm partitions?
[15:28] <lyndel> kil http://paste.opensuse.org/47547765
[15:29] <d3bug> I have (what will probably amount to a simple problem) an issue.  maybe someone can help....  I want to rip a multisession data disc into individual track files (not CDDA)... 1st track is ISO9660, others are RAW data tracks.  I want to do this so I can add boot info to track 1 and then re-record these tracks onto another disc so the disc will be bootable.
[15:29] <TJ-> rory: I don't believe it can do that
[15:30] <rory> OK never mind
[15:30] <TJ-> meandrain: correct, if windows (re)wrote the first sector on a Master Boot Record (MBR) partitioned disk, the partition info was in the last 64 bytes of that sector
[15:31] <m_> bend123
[15:31] <meandrain> TJ-: so if I (for learning reasons) want to wipe boot and keep partition info, then it is ok to wipe first 512-64 bytes?
[15:32] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok -- can you point me to the right image to download for lubuntu server? does it need to be 12.04 also, i guess?
[15:33] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'd recommend trying to use the latest LTS for 14.04 since it'll (probably) contain bug-fixes and improvements that haven't made it to 12.04
[15:33] <TJ-> mikubuntu: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/  "32-bit PC (i386) server install image"
[15:33] <mikubuntu> TJ-: but what about the black screen of death?
[15:35] <TJ-> mikubuntu: because the server installer doesn't use graphics mode I'd be very surprised if it happens - unless the cause *is* the inverted backlight control we experimented with earlier, but you seemed to discount that with the flashlight test.
[15:36] <lyndel> kil?
[15:36] <TJ-> mikubuntu: If you get server installed and working you can use your other PC to remotely connect using SSH and operate it even if the GUI fails, which means we can quickly diagnose and fix the cause from another PC accessing it
[15:37] <mikubuntu> TJ-: but after we install the server we have to apply a gui environment to it, right? and we know that we don't know what was causing the black screen with the lubuntu 14.04 desktop iso.
[15:38] <TJ-> mikubuntu: as long as you have an Ethernet cable linking the mini to your router and make sure that "openssh-server" is installed (I seem to recall it is installed by default on the server but you should check as you go along - it may ask you what/whether to install)
[15:38] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok, you da boss man.
[15:39] <TJ-> mikubuntu: You'll use your good PC to operate the mini over the network then, using the SSH connection over the wired ethernet. From that you can install drivers, configure network, install the desktop, and test it and retain full control over SSH
[15:40] <TJ-> mikubuntu: bear in mind I'm probably 6-7 hours ahead of you (in England) and I've been programming since 0500 so we might have to hand over to someone else to continue, or else wait until I'm available on Tuesday
[15:40] <d3bug> TJ:  any ideas on my issue?  I mean is there anything you can think of that can rip individual data tracks from a multisession disc?
[15:40] <mikubuntu> so do i need to have my laptop in that other room with the mini? no accessible power plugs in there, and batteries will problably die in the middle of something. omg.
[15:41] <TJ-> d3bug: It's not something I've done much with in several years, but I thought things like k3B could do that via the various backend tools
[15:41] <k1l> lyndel: ok, you video card is old and not supported by fglrx anymore. so dont use fglrx. remove that with apt-get please
[15:41] <lyndel> kil??
[15:41] <lyndel> wait
[15:41] <mikubuntu> TJ-: it all sounds so easy when YOU say it -- lol
[15:41] <lyndel> u serious?
[15:41] <lyndel> can u explain please
[15:42] <d3bug> TJ: installing it real quick... I'll let you know.
[15:42] <TJ-> mikubuntu: That depends on the length of your available Ethernet cables. If you can get a long one that'll reach the router from where it is now, but it'd make sense to have the PCs side-by-side ... so maybe better to get hold of an extension mains power block
[15:42] <lyndel> i dont understand what fglrx does and why to remove it?
[15:42] <k1l> lyndel: your video card is from 2005. amd/ati dropps old cards from their driver. so you need to use the opensource driver (which is running automatically when you remove the fglrx)
[15:42] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Yeah... how many times do you think I've gone through this type of scenario to make it sound this easy? :D
[15:43] <mikubuntu> TJ-: another day is not going to make any difference to me either, i'm just trying to figure it out.
[15:43] <k1l> lyndel: fglrx is the prop. amd/ati driver. radeon is the open source one. radeon still supports your card. amd doesnt
[15:43] <lyndel> but i thought i was using then sorce driver all this time
[15:43] <lyndel> ooooh
[15:43] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'm trying to recommend for you the most stable, reliable approach that has least chance of tripping you/us up
[15:43] <lyndel> wow
[15:43] <lyndel> sweeet
[15:43] <lyndel> so what to do again?
[15:43] <TJ-> mikubuntu: and at the same time get 14.04 installed
[15:43] <mhammons> hi, i created a new user on ubuntu server with adduser and he can't access java or javac for some reason
[15:44] <mhammons> although both are installed
[15:44] <lyndel> what commands?
[15:44] <k1l> lyndel: remove all "fglrx" packages
[15:44] <TJ-> mhammons: what error is reported?
[15:44] <lyndel> but how?
[15:44] <mikubuntu> TJ-: yes of course i prefer to have lub 1404
[15:44] <lyndel> tell me safe way so i get no errors
[15:45] <k1l> lyndel: sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[15:45] <mhammons> TJ-: the program 'java' can be found in the following packages:...
[15:45] <TJ-> mhammons: For that user what does this report?  "which java"
[15:45] <mhammons> nothin
[15:45] <lyndel> ok brb
[15:45] <TJ-> mhammons: but you say it is installed in the system and available to other users?
[15:45] <mhammons> TJ-: it's available to root at the very least
[15:46] <TJ-> mhammons: is the user's PATH setting customised in some way?
[15:46] <mhammons> TJ-: nope, fresh user from adduser
[15:46] <TJ-> mhammons: what does root report for "which java" ?
[15:46] <mhammons>  /usr/bin/java
[15:47] <lyndel> kil its saying its not installed so it removed nothing
[15:47] <TJ-> mhammons: Can other regular users see java ?
[15:47] <mikubuntu> TJ-: so just to verify -- this server image is the ubuntu server 32 bit -- "32-bit PC (i386) server install image" and we'll install lubuntu desktop to it after installation?
[15:47] <k1l> lyndel: dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[15:47] <mhammons> TJ-: wouldn't know, this thing's old and everyone uses the root user to do stuff
[15:48] <mhammons> it's a mess
[15:48] <TJ-> mikubuntu: You got it :) To install lubuntu afterwards you'll simply do "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^ "
[15:48] <lyndel> ok
[15:48] <mhammons> TJ-: at the very least, another user I created with adduser has the same problem, as well as postgres user
[15:48] <lyndel> kil nothing happened
[15:48] <lyndel> what now?
[15:48] <TJ-> mhammons: maybe the user's command hash table has a bad value for that file? have you tried "hash -r" ?
[15:49] <lyndel> k1l, this is confusing
[15:49] <mhammons> TJ-: still got nothin
[15:49] <TJ-> mhammons: That sounds like a PATH issue. Is "/usr/bin" in the user's PATH ?
[15:49] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok, dl the server now i'll see if you're still here after i rip the stick and start the installation -- i'll really need guidance on that partitioning thing
[15:49] <TJ-> mikubuntu: OK, I'll be around for a few hours yet
[15:49] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'm programming for a while yet
[15:50] <mikubuntu> TJ-: okey dokey then :P
[15:50] <mhammons> TJ-: /usr/bin is in PATH
[15:50] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'll download it here too and follow along with you in a virtual machine
[15:51] <mikubuntu> TJ-: see how you are -- who knows how to do these things. lol.
[15:51] <lyndel> k1l,
[15:52] <TJ-> mhammons:  what does this report? "readlink -e /usr/bin/java"
[15:52] <d3bug> TJ:  no such luck... no tools in there to rip individual tracks.
[15:52] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I have the 14.04.1 server i386 image here already so I'm good to go when you are
[15:52] <mhammons> TJ-: absolutely nothing
[15:53] <TJ-> d3bug: I must be mis-remembering I thought I'd at least extracted multiple tracks
[15:53] <k1l> lyndel: ok, then its not installed. but then that was not the issue.
[15:53] <mhammons> TJ-: hmm, I get permission denied when I try to access /usr/bin/java
[15:53] <TJ-> mhammons: That suggests that java isn't installed at all :)
[15:53] <k1l> lyndel: so was this boot the issue with lightdm?
[15:54] <d3bug> TJ:  lots of tools will rip the whole disc as a bin image but that is useless because I cannot add boot information to a raw image.  that is why i need to rip individual raw data tracks.
[15:54] <TJ-> mhammons: it is usually a symbolic link; if it is broken and there's nothing on the end, then that makes sense
[15:54] <mhammons> TJ-: nah, it works, got a tomcat server up and rnning
[15:54] <mhammons> running*
[15:54] <TJ-> mhammons: "ls -l /usr/bin/java"
[15:54] <lyndel> k1l, yes it seems if i boot i get blank screen if i go to tty1 and use sudo service lightdm restart it works so am sure its a lightdm problem its not starting as it should
[15:54] <mhammons> points to /etc/alternatives/java
[15:54] <TJ-> mhammons: That doesn't mean Tomcat started from that link though
[15:55] <mhammons> TJ-: ah, I see the issue
[15:55] <TJ-> mhammons: and what does "ls -l /etc/alternatives/java" report?
[15:55] <k1l> lyndel: no. that was not what i asked. i asked if _this boot_ was the issue with lightdm
[15:55] <lyndel> its annoying to have to force lightdm to start everytime at boot up
[15:55] <lyndel> yes it was
[15:55] <lyndel> should be in the logs
[15:55] <k1l> lyndel: because if this boot was ok with no issue we will not find any error in the logs from this boot, becuase there was no issue.
[15:55] <mhammons> TJ-: java's currently linked to a jdk in /root
[15:56] <TJ-> mhammons: there you get!
[15:56] <k1l> lyndel: so see dmesg and syslog then
[15:56] <d3bug> I'll check back after lunch to see if anyone else knows how.  Thanks TJ for trying.
[15:56] <TJ-> mhammons: The system packages install to "/usr/lib/jvm/*/jre/bin/java"
[15:56] <lyndel> k1l,  dmseg is empty and syslog too big paste calls me scammer if i try to paste it
[15:56] <mhammons> TJ-: I already have them installed, I wanted java 8 though
[15:57] <mhammons> TJ-: need to set update-alternatives to point to the jdk in /opt
[15:57] <k1l> !paste | lyndel
[15:57] <TJ-> d3bug: have you tried "cdrdao" ?
[15:58] <k1l> lyndel: use that paste
[15:58] <lyndel> ok thanks
[15:58] <TJ-> mhammons: I installed it to "/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java" and added it to update-alternatives as the default
[15:59] <lyndel> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11651358/
[15:59] <mhammons> TJ-: ok working now
[15:59] <mhammons> thanks
[16:00] <TJ-> mhammons: I built Java 8 for 14.04 and it's in a PPA of mine, you might want to simply add that: https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/java-for-14.04/
[16:01] <mhammons> TJ-: unfortunately, this thing's a 12.04 server
[16:01] <TJ-> mhammons: Ahhh OK :)
[16:05] <mhammons> TJ-: ubuntu 14.04 doesn't have java 8 already?
[16:06] <TJ-> mhammons: No; we have a backport bug opened which I've built it for testing
[16:06] <mhammons> TJ-: ah
[16:07] <mhammons> well it works pretty great, glad they got rid of the permgen
[16:07] <k1l> lyndel: dont know right now. open a thread on the forums and attach that logs to it.
[16:08] <k1l> lyndel: i need to leave in a few minutes
[16:08] <lyndel> k1l,  ok thanks alot
[16:08] <lyndel> for all your help man
[16:08] <TJ-> mhammons: Yeah, I've been running most stuff on it even when building for 1.7
[16:09] <__Myst__> Question: How do I blur an image?
[16:09] <__Myst__> I saw convert -blur is a thing
[16:09] <mhammons> really looking forward to java 9's project jigsaw
[16:10] <mhammons> especially if modules are hotswappable
[16:11] <TJ-> I still get confused by the lambda syntax; it's the worst choice ever, couldn't be more obtuse!
[16:11] <mhammons> ?
[16:11] <ianp> what would have been better
[16:12] <mhammons> the only thing that confuses me about java lambdas is all the different types of functions. wish they'd do like scala and allow "Integer -> Void" style types
[16:12] <TJ-> ianp: Not sure, but choosing the C/C++ pointer operator and also allowing inferred types for arguments is not going to help code readability
[16:13] <mhammons> TJ-: I think they were going more for ML style lambda syntax
[16:13] <mhammons> with stuff like (input,parameters) -> {function body}
[16:14] <ianp> it's not the C/C++ pointer operator, it's the Java lambda syntax :)
[16:14] <ianp> I prefer scala's =>
[16:14] <TJ-> ianp: not to me it isn't!
[16:14] <ianp> well you're wrong! :D
[16:14] <binar33> hi
[16:14] <binar33> what does ubuntu1, ubuntu2, ubuntu3, ubuntu4 means?
[16:14] <histo> binar33: what?
[16:15] <TJ-> ianp -> has been the pointer operator for me since the early 1980s; i see code fragments and I can't tell C++ and Java apart now :)
[16:15] <binar33> I was checking packages here.. https://launchpad.net/~nicolas-zin/+archive/ubuntu/ossec-ubuntu/+packages  . they have ubunut1, ubuntu2 ubuntu3 tails
[16:15] <ianp> -> only appears in a lambda tho.. usually there's a space in front of it too
[16:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> is 14.04.1 still available for download somewhere?
[16:16] <guest8574> Is there a way to set a keyboard shortcut for XKill? When my computer stops responding, I want to be able to press Ctrl+Alt+X and kill the offending program.
[16:16] <histo> binar33: you'd have to ask the maintainer there
[16:16] <binar33> histo isn't that something common?
[16:17] <histo> binar33: not that I'm familiar with maybe someone else has seen that version numbering before
[16:17] <histo> guest8574: in what desktop environment?
[16:17] <histo> NoImNotNineVolt: yes should be on cdimages
[16:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> nevermind, found it at the unintuitively-named http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.0/
[16:18] <TJ-> NoImNotNineVolt:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/release/
[16:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> aha, that works too. thanks.
[16:18] <meandrain> I've searched through the list of packages with:  apt-cache search nload but I get like two screens of apps not related to nload. Any idea what command should I use instead? I want apt related command, not dpkg
[16:18] <binar33> histo thanks!
[16:19] <histo> NoImNotNineVolt: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/
[16:19] <stayonthehustle>  /join #stripe
[16:20] <stayonthehustle> oops. don't mind me
[16:20] <TJ-> meandrain: "apt-cache search -n ^nload "
[16:20] <histo> !info nload
[16:20] <meandrain> TJ-: thanx, that worked
[16:21] <TJ-> meandrain: the search term is a regular expression and the ^ anchors the search to the start of the line
[16:21] <meandrain> right
[16:21] <histo> meandrain: -n is name only also
[16:22] <guest8574> histo: Unity
[16:24] <histo> guest8574: yeah you can create a keyboard shortcut. Press the dash key and start searching for keybaord
[16:28] <guest8574> Thanks
[16:29] <Razzdoll> Hello - I need help on this terminal. The terminal will minimize and when I try to resize it, not maximise it, it doesnt let me.
[16:29] <Razzdoll> How can I fix this
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: does it happen with all application windows?
[16:30] <Razzdoll> ActionParsnip,  Ubuntu 15.04 n\ l\, no ActionParsnip
[16:30] <Razzdoll> I can't even read any outputs without looking very closely
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: if you use terminal a lot, I can recommend you install and use guake (or if you use kde, yakuake)
[16:30] <Razzdoll> I use terminal alot yes
[16:30] <Razzdoll> Thanks ActionParsnip  I will try
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: try it, you might like it :)
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: plus it's free
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: F12 is the default key, hide and show the terminal as you need it (should be default imho)
[16:31] <Codmadnesspro> How can I allow one other user passwords instead of privatekeys?
[16:31] <Razzdoll> ActionParsnip, Free? So is the built in one I think. You kinda confused me lol
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: yes, its just a hidable terminal. Great app
[16:33] <Razzdoll> ActionParsnip,  it's giving an error saying I need to install guake-schemas /properly/ .. but I didn't install any of that, I just installed ubuntu
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: just re-launch it, it'll be fine
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: it moans first time. No idea why
[16:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> haven't touched upstart in quite some time, and now i'm porting systemd unit files to it... how do i source env vars from /etc/defaults/foo in an upstart script?
[16:34] <Razzdoll> ActionParsnip, wow! It's transparent. Lol. Its hard to see the white text on top of other things now though :)
[16:35] <Razzdoll> ActionParsnip, just found the preferences :)
[16:35] <Codmadnesspro> How can I allow someone to use a password just for their user?
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: easy peasy
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Codmadnesspro: password to do what?
[16:35] <Codmadnesspro> ActionParsnip, well my user uses private keys but he wants to use passwords on his user
[16:36] <Razzdoll> ActionParsnip, thank you. I'll replace the original one :)
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Codmadnesspro: so..to SSH in?
[16:36] <Codmadnesspro> yes
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Codmadnesspro: why wasnt that on your first question? Why did I have toguess?
[16:36] <Codmadnesspro> :p
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Codmadnesspro: computers use tonnes of passwords and keys so without stating this your question is meaningless
[16:37] <Codmadnesspro> It has a meaning now :)
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Codmadnesspro: by default, openssh-server requests SSH keys, then will fall back to passwords if no key is offered
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Codmadnesspro: in future, please give some scope of the question. It makes things quicker
[16:38] <Codmadnesspro> No supported authentication methods available
[16:38] <Codmadnesspro> server sent: pubkey
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: what do you reckon. You can add and remove tabs too (Shortcut is CTRL + SHIFT + T for new and  CTRL + SHIFT + W for close (you can also use mouse))
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Codmadnesspro: ok, did you change your openssh-server config?
[16:39] <histo> Codmadnesspro: for ssh?
[16:39] <Codmadnesspro> ActionParsnip, Yes, I want my user to use only private keys and his user only passwords
[16:39] <Codmadnesspro> histo, yes
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Codmadnesspro: http://serverfault.com/questions/285800/how-to-disable-ssh-login-with-password-for-some-users
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Codmadnesspro: obviously, keep an account logged in so you can manage the server if you screw up the config
[16:42] <Codmadnesspro> xD
[16:42] <Codmadnesspro> I've got console access if needed
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> Codmadnesspro: even better
[16:42] <histo> Codmadnesspro: hrm.
[16:43] <histo> Ahh nice match
[16:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> so after i add a /etc/init/foo.conf upstart script, do i need to notify upstart?
[16:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> (ala systemd's systemctl daemon-reload ?)
[16:53] <trism> NoImNotNineVolt: no
[16:53] <NoImNotNineVolt> or can i start doing service foo start immediately after dropping the script in /etc/init
[16:53] <trism> NoImNotNineVolt: yes, you can
[16:53] <NoImNotNineVolt> fantastic, thanks.
[16:54] <michael_mbp> Using Ansible NoImNotNineVolt ?
[16:55] <NoImNotNineVolt> yup.
[16:55] <michael_mbp> awesome.
[16:55] <NoImNotNineVolt> more like abusing ansible :P
[16:55] <michael_mbp> usually the case :)
[16:55] <NoImNotNineVolt> one playbook, three different target platforms.
[16:55] <NoImNotNineVolt> originally developed for debian. that's fine. then they wanted redhat. turned debs into rpms, at least systemd stayed the same, fine.
[16:56] <NoImNotNineVolt> now they want ubuntu support. the debs assume systemd is there. /me rips hair out.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> Razzdoll: what do you reckon?
[17:02] <xentity1x> Hi can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu doesnt detect my secondary monitor
[17:02]  * summix Hello There
[17:02] <NoImNotNineVolt> any idea what the 'ansible_distribution' fact for ubuntu is?
[17:02] <k3asd`> how can restart my server at a specified time?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: look into 'at'
[17:03] <k3asd`> ActionParsnip: like shutdown -r | 23.00 ?
[17:03] <k3asd`> sorry
[17:03] <k3asd`> shutdown -r | at 23.00 ?
[17:04]  * summix Hello There
[17:04] <k3asd`> or the opposite?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: sudo at 23:00    [press ENTER]      reboot      [press ENTER] [press CTRL + D]
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: etc etc
[17:04] <xentity1x> Hi can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu doesnt detect my secondary monitor
[17:05] <k3asd`> ActionParsnip: I wanto to do this automatically in bash script
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: k3asd` let me search
[17:07] <histo> k3asd`: crontab a reboot
[17:07] <k3asd`> histo: I need to reboot my server when a condition is verified
[17:07] <k3asd`> histo: I don't need to reboot my server always
[17:07] <histo> k3asd`: write a script that verifies the condition and then reboot
[17:08] <k3asd`> histo: before I need to send me an email
[17:08] <k3asd`> histo: the server is in production and I need to reboot them at a specific time
[17:09] <histo> k3asd`: yeah it can be accomplished with cron and a script
[17:09] <histo> k3asd`: what's the condition?
[17:09] <k3asd`> for istance
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-job-scheduling/   has a few at examples in one-liners
[17:09] <k3asd`> file=/var/log/abc
[17:10] <k3asd`> if [ -f $file]; then
[17:10] <k3asd`> mail -s "bla" email@gmail.com
[17:10] <k3asd`> fi
[17:10] <k3asd`> ActionParsnip: let me see
[17:10] <histo> k3asd`: yeah this is trivial with cron
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: but cron is for recurring tasks. At is for a single shot job
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> (phrasing)
[17:11] <k3asd`> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:12] <k3asd`> let me explain more better (I hope :) )
[17:12] <k3asd`> in my server run ubuntu 14.04 with unattended-upgrades installed
[17:14] <k3asd`> the upgrades works every day and when there are a security upgrades the system creates a file called reboot-required in /var/log
[17:14] <k3asd`> I need to verify this condition and:
[17:14] <k3asd`> email me to alert
[17:14] <k3asd`> reboot the machine
[17:14] <k3asd`> of course at a specific time
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: but the reboot is only needed to change kernel. Your OS is geared around uptime. Why reboot at all?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: I'd do it with cron, check file exists at 1am. If it exists then reboot
[17:15] <OerHeks> upgrade to 15.04, no reboot needed with systemD
[17:15] <jaaaay> then rm the file
[17:15] <Mateo_> Hi everyone !
[17:15] <finisherr> Does anyone happen to know if xvfb-run is supposed to be able to run on a headless server?
[17:16] <YamakasY> swapoff -a and swapon -a will give me all performance back or do I still need a reboot ?
[17:16] <Mateo_> I have installed nginx a while ago on my server. But it seems that I need the nginx-extra instead of the default one. What’s the proper way to replace the package with the new one while preserving my nginx configuration please ?
[17:19] <wastrel> hi my login screen is frozen how do i fix it
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: does a reboot help?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: has it worked before in thesame installation?
[17:19] <wastrel> i'm not going to restart
[17:19] <k3asd`> ActionParsnip: ok - and about email?
[17:20] <wastrel> it always works except i left it locked and my cat sat on my keyboard and now it's frozen
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: cron can be told to send an email
[17:20] <rathi123> hello everyone
[17:21] <jaaaay> wastrel - is your keyboard unplugged? :)  also...   wth just reboot
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: you will need to configure postfix / exim / sendmail first
[17:21] <rathi123> i would like to setup xchat on my laptop
[17:22] <HumbleMumble> Whats up, peoples.
[17:22] <rathi123> it is not connecting to any channel
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> isnt xchat dead?
[17:22] <xangua> yes
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> rathi123: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[17:22] <xangua> long live hexchat
[17:22] <HumbleMumble> im using xchat. xD
[17:23] <wastrel> i don't want to reboot
[17:23] <wastrel> my cat just hacked my computer
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> http://xchat.org/   no update since 2010  .... yep. dead
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: why? You havent even logged in.
[17:23] <wastrel> apparnetly anyone can just crash a ubuntu by sitting on the keyboard
[17:23] <wastrel> i was logged in the session was locked
[17:23] <rathi123> @actionparsnip : Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: can you press CTRL + ALT + F1 and get actibvity there?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> !info xchat trusty
[17:24] <wastrel> that's how i am loggedinto irc
[17:24] <wastrel> i'm on tty1
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> rathi123: well, you are connected to #ubuntu which is a channel.
[17:24] <rathi123> which irc client would you suggest..?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> !irc
[17:25] <rathi123> i am connected through a web client not through xchat
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> rathi123: what features do yu like in xchat?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> rathi123: ahh I see
[17:25] <xangua> hexchat is an updated and maintained xchat fork
[17:25] <rathi123> i dont know actually
[17:25] <rathi123> i am new to irc
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> rathi123: try a few, see which you like
[17:25] <wastrel> do you think a cat could break gnome or just unity
[17:25] <wastrel> does gnome use lightdm or gdm still
[17:25] <wastrel> why can a cat crash my ubuntu by sitting on the keyboard
[17:26] <rathi123> which client do you use..?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: default in Gnome is gdm but Ubuntu uses Lightdm by default
[17:26] <k3asd`> ActionParsnip: it's configured
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> rathi123: Im on the web client also but I use pidgin under ubuntu. AndChat on Android
[17:26] <xangua> wastrel: ubuntu gnome uses gdm
[17:27] <wastrel> maybe GDM isn't subject to feline hacking
[17:27] <xentity1x> Hi can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu doesnt detect my secondary monitor
[17:27] <k3asd`> ActionParsnip: I don't understand how mix at and cron and my script
[17:27] <rathi123> thanx.. i will uninstall xchat and install some new client
[17:27] <wastrel> here's an interesting exercise:  sit on your keyboard on the login screen and see if you can crash ubuntu
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> k3asd`: you dont need at, you only need cron to check for the reboot file once a day and reboot the server if it sees it
[17:28] <TJ-> xentity1x: What does "xrandr -q" report? (pastebin it)
[17:28] <k3asd`> ActionParsnip: aaaaa ok. thank you
[17:29] <wastrel> what package should i file a bug against
[17:29] <tgm4883> wastrel have you looked at the lightdm logs?
[17:29] <tgm4883> also why can I not tab-complete your name
[17:30] <NetworkingPro> Hey everyone. does anyone know about fail2ban on Ubuntu?
[17:31] <egon1> hi
[17:31] <OerHeks> NetworkingPro, there is a good wiki about it >>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban
[17:31] <egon1> you are firm in ubuntu-phone too?
[17:31] <NetworkingPro> OerHeks: Thanks, let me check it out. Think I already checked that URL
[17:31] <NetworkingPro> Un momento
[17:31] <brainwash> egon1: better join #ubuntu-touch
[17:31] <RobinHood2015> Is there a way to get a program to start with LightDM and the Unity Greeter?
[17:31] <xentity1x> http://pastebin.com/6q0QuHvK
[17:32] <xentity1x> TJ, http://pastebin.com/6q0QuHvK
[17:32] <Mateo_> Ok so I tried to install nginx-extras after backup of my config, but here is the error I get :  trying to overwrite '/usr/sbin/nginx', which is also in package nginx 1.8.0-1~trusty
[17:32] <TJ-> xentity1x: You've got another monitor connected to the VGA1 output?
[17:32] <xentity1x> TJ, yep
[17:33] <rathi123> is there a seperate channel for xmonad questions..??
[17:33] <TJ-> xentity1x: OK, try "xrandr --output VGA1 --auto"
[17:34] <xentity1x> TJ, That doesn't generate any ouput
[17:34] <brainwash> RobinHood2015: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM > Adding System Hooks
[17:34] <TJ-> xentity1x: No, it should simply turn the output on
[17:34] <TJ-> xentity1x: does "xrandr -q" report anything different now? If now can you pastebin "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[17:35] <wastrel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1463112
[17:36] <xentity1x> TJ, Output of the first command is still the same
[17:36] <xentity1x> TJ, Here's the log file http://pastebin.com/LX18mDdk
[17:36] <tgm4883> wastrel did you look at logs?
[17:36] <wastrel> tgm4883: before or after i restarted lightdm
[17:36] <Johnny_Linux> lol,  Ubuntu bug 1463112 in unity (Ubuntu) "Cat sitting on keyboard crashes lightdm" [Undecided,New]
[17:36] <wastrel> no in either case actually
[17:36] <Johnny_Linux> get a dog
[17:36] <xentity1x> TJ, I think the VGA outout might be coming from my discrete graphics card, and I'm using that with bumblebee. That may be why it's not showing up.
[17:36] <brainwash> bug 1463112 ?
[17:37] <tgm4883> wastrel well while it was frozen.
[17:37] <xentity1x> TJ, but I'm not 100 percent sure
[17:37] <wastrel> the answer is no
[17:37] <Johnny_Linux> just reboot and stop waisting everyones time
[17:37] <tgm4883> wastrel reproduce the issue then take a look at the lightdm logs
[17:37] <wastrel> reporting a crash bug is not wasting time Johnny_Linux
[17:37] <tgm4883> Johnny_Linux: that's not helpful
[17:37] <NetworkingPro> OerHeks: I suppose the two quesitons I have aren't really answered there.  1. I don't really understand the deamon name, does that really matter? and 2. It appears I have to have a custom regex?
[17:38] <NetworkingPro> I am trying to create a custom filter that processes a new log file (for a custom application).  Is there an easy way to write the regex?  I have zero experience using regexs
[17:39] <TJ-> xentity1x: Does that PC have dual GPUs for low/high power, as in Intel integrated + Nvidia discrete with Bumblebee for switching?
[17:39] <xentity1x> TJ, Yeah I'm using the intel one right now
[17:42] <TJ-> xentity1x: I've stayed away from that stuff because it's generally been a mess of problems on Linux, but I'd suspect the issue has something to do with the current output being on the Intel chipset rather than on the nvidia. Someone more familiar with the bumblebee stuff might be able to help better
[17:42] <xentity1x> TJ, thanks
[17:43] <TJ-> xentity1x: long shot but maybe you sohuld be enabling the VIRTUAL1 output? you could try that: "xrandr --output VIRTUAL1 --auto"
[17:44] <wastrel> what appears to be happening is that it's buffering the keyboard input and just feeding it into the password dialog glacially slowly
[17:44] <wastrel> and that is also preventing mouse events from reaching menus or anything else from happening
[17:44] <TJ-> wastrel: probably causing a buffer overflow
[17:44] <wastrel> you're locked out until it's done reading in the keys to the password text input
[17:44] <wastrel> there's nothing in the logs
[17:45] <TJ-> wastrel: so it eventually does respond once its drained the keyboard input?
[17:45] <wastrel> i assume so, it did in my tests just now
[17:45] <Zack263> can someone help a ubuntu noober find firefox developer edition... I have regular firefox icon... but i also have firefox developer edition but I dont have an icon on my window
[17:45] <Zack263> tried to search firefox developer edition and nothing comes up
[17:45] <Zack263> i'll try modzilla
[17:46] <xangua> what's "modzilla"¿
[17:46] <brainwash> Zack263: how did you install the developer edition?
[17:46] <wastrel> no way of knowing how long the cat was sitting there and i didn't feel like staring at my login screen for more than a couple of mniutes while i tested :)
[17:46] <Zack263> i might of done it from the command line if i remember..but i dont remember
[17:46] <Slaizer> I need some help getting my Qualcomm card working. I have a Acer VN7-791G.
[17:47] <tgm4883> wastrel, well now that is information that you can put in the bug report that will be useful
[17:47] <Zack263> i found it under firefox search
[17:47] <Zack263> but i want it to be an icon
[17:47] <M031N> n
[17:47] <Zack263> on my list
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Slaizer: wifi?
[17:47] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, Yes.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Slaizer: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network     what wireless chip do you see?
[17:48] <Zack263> looks like i downlaoded it as a tarbz and unzipped it but never got an icon to the bar
[17:48] <xangua> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles Zack263
[17:48] <Zack263> thanks
[17:49] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, I think this tutorial could be the answer to solving this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1383184/comments/115
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Slaizer: worth a punt
[17:49] <kunji> Hey everyone... I have a disk problem, some folders return "ls: reading directory .: Input/output error" when they are read.   What is the best way to fix this considering that I do not think these are bad blocks.  I believe the problem was caused by a loose SATA cable.  The contents are the drive are too big for me to move at the moment.
[17:49] <sla_> Hi all. I am currently trying to install ubuntu on my laptop beside Windows 7. During the installation i get the message "no root system defined". I guess the problem is, that my windows installation already uses 3 primary partitions and only 4 were possible. I have tried to create a extended partition with unallocated space with gparted, but the installed didnt got the partition.
[17:50] <sla_> Further I have allocated the space of the extended partition and created a swap partition (logical), a boot (ext4) and a home (ext4)
[17:50] <sla_> but the installed didnt got this too
[17:50] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, Could you guide me through it?
[17:50] <sla_> Any ideas how I ca go on?
[17:50] <kunji> sla_: Did you just forget to assign / to the partition you created in the extended partition?
[17:51] <sla_> kunji: actually I couldn't figure out how I can do this in gparted.
[17:51] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, here are the drivers. Which one do I need of the wifi drivers?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Slaizer: what is to guide. Its all there for you. Just read
[17:52] <sla_> actually gparted does not provide the option to choose a mount point
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Slaizer: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[17:52] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, Qualcomm Atheros
[17:53] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[17:53] <jParkton> heh
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Slaizer: does it work ok under the 4.1 kernel?
[17:54] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, I think I tested the 4.0 Kernel and it did not work
[17:54] <kunji> sla_: Hmm, I'm not sure where you do it in the normal gparted, I'm sure it's part of the gparted interface presented during installation though
[17:54] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, which kernel am I using right now?
[17:54] <jParkton> Slaizer: uname -r in terminal will tell you
[17:55] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, I am using 3.19.0-15
[17:55] <sla_> kunji: well I have started gparted manually from the live CD since the installer crashes when I try to press "create", "+" or "-" buttons
[17:55] <nnnnooiiio> can i get lil help?on my old laptop ibm thinkpad t42 trying to instal lubuntu with usb flash and its hangs when i press instal or try lubuntu
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Slaizer: worth a try, may make it work OOTB
[17:56] <kunji> sla_: O.o, that's not good, have you also tried the curses based installer instead of the graphical one?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> nnnnooiiio: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:57] <sla_> kunji: no - not yet
[17:57] <Zack263> it says fdeveloper.desktop is not marked as trusted
[17:57] <jParkton> I can say in 14 years using Linux I have only checked a MD5 once iirc
[17:57] <nnnnooiiio> @actionparsnip how to do that?
[17:57] <sla_> kunji: do you think I will be more successful?^^
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> Zack263: mark it as executable
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | nnnnooiiio
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> nnnnooiiio: you have no way of knowing the data you downloaded is complee and consistent.
[17:58] <kunji> sla_:I don't think gparted can set mount point, just reads and displays them.  They're normally handled by the fstab file, I'm not sure what is done during installation though
[17:58] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, So how do we progress?
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Slaizer: Id try the newer kernel, you can always roll back to the official ubuntu kernel
[17:59] <kunji> sla_: Maybe via chroot?
[17:59] <Slaizer> ActionParsnip, How do I do this?
[18:00] <Zack263> error launching application... in the exe path... do u need to include the file name to be executed... it just said put path
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Slaizer: lots and lots of guides online...you really have to ask. I gotta jet
[18:00] <sla_> kunji: when should I use it? When I have started the live cd?
[18:00] <sla_> kunji: I have not seen any way to start a terminal during normal installation?
[18:01] <x-ip> question: redis is starting after i reboot the machine, and i checked at /etc/init.d and redis-server has not exec permissions, i did chmod -x /etc/init.d/redis-server, how is starting at system boot anyway? where can i check?
[18:01] <kunji> sla_: That's my best guess, live CD, do the chroot and set the mount points, then start the installation from the desktop of the live session
[18:01] <kunji> sla_: No guarantees though, I haven't tried anything like this
[18:01] <n-iCe> Hello
[18:01] <bao_> hi, has anyone successfully configure kdump on EC2 HVM instance?
[18:02] <n-iCe> Why would you guys say to choose Ubuntu over any other Ubuntu alternative?
[18:02] <jParkton> Ubuntu != Amazon
[18:02] <sla_> kunji: I will try :/
[18:02] <jParkton> n-iCe: I use/have used Kubuntu for a longggg time, and I would steer anyone to it over Ubuntu
[18:03] <kunji> sla_:good luck
[18:03] <cjohnson> How can I apt-get install a package without asking the user if they definitely want to install it, but while sitll letting any subsequent problems pause for user input?
[18:03] <n-iCe> :o
[18:03] <akhilesh> what does kubuntu offer over ubuntu?
[18:03] <cjohnson> KDE
[18:03] <n-iCe> yeah, what
[18:03] <n-iCe> oh
[18:03] <tgm4883> Personally I prefer ubuntu over kubuntu
[18:03] <n-iCe> I don't like KDE
[18:03] <sla_> thanks
[18:04] <kunji> KDE....
[18:04] <akhilesh> yea same here
[18:04] <jParkton> Kubuntu has never included spam in its releases unlike Ubuntu
[18:04] <kunji> KDE is spam
[18:04] <brainwash> KDE is love
[18:04] <tgm4883> lets keep this on topic please
[18:04] <jParkton> ^
[18:04] <n-iCe> and xubuntu?
[18:04] <kunji> :P
[18:04] <brainwash> you can easily test the different flavors
[18:04] <BluesKaj> kunji, stop that, KDE is a  legit desktop highly regarded by many people
[18:05] <kunji> Xubuntu = Ubuntu + XFCE - Unity
[18:05] <kunji> BluesKaj: I never said otherwise
[18:05] <n-iCe> I will try Ubuntu then
[18:05] <BluesKaj> you called it spam
[18:05] <BluesKaj> !Kubuntu
[18:05] <n-iCe> what favlor would you guys say is the lightweightest one and runs faster
[18:05] <kunji> Spam is a meat product highly regarded by many people as well
[18:05] <kunji> Especially in Hawawii
[18:05] <jParkton> Xubuntu is lightest
[18:06] <tgm4883> BluesKaj: and jparkton said ubuntu shipped with spam but you didn't call him out on it. Now can we all just keep things on topic?
[18:06] <n-iCe> than lubuntu?
[18:06] <jParkton> tgm4883: because its a fact
[18:06] <kunji> Citation?
[18:06] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, stupid remarks deserve to be pointed out
[18:08] <nnnnooiiio> @actionparsing did mdp test its match
[18:08] <nnnnooiiio> md5
[18:08] <jParkton> kunji: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/24/ubuntu_amazon_suggestions/
[18:09] <jParkton> adware
[18:09] <nnnnooiiio> can i get lil help?on my old laptop ibm thinkpad t42 trying to instal lubuntu with usb flash and its hangs when i press instal or try lubuntu already did md5 test
[18:09] <kunji> jParkton: Search results are not quite the same as adware, you could have just stated what you were referring to, I was thinking it would be that
[18:10] <jParkton> I see
[18:10] <jParkton> cool dismissal though
[18:10] <kunji>  Nor are they the same as spam
[18:10] <jParkton> again
[18:11] <jParkton> cool dismissal
[18:11] <kunji> I know, it's a fine line though :P
[18:11] <jParkton> I personally despise amazon and never do business with them, why should I be fine with them installing 'premium search results' or whatever they were getting paid by amazon to do
[18:12] <BluesKaj> jParkton, good one ! heh now which OS is the spam one kunji ?
[18:12] <nnnnooiiio> can i get lil help?on my old laptop ibm thinkpad t42 trying to instal lubuntu with usb flash and its hangs when i press instal or try lubuntu already did md5 test
[18:12] <tgm4883> since we're completely off topic now, jParkton why do you despise amazon?
[18:12] <kunji> BluesKaj: ChomeOS?
[18:12] <kunji> BluesKaj: Or is it Android via carriers?
[18:12] <jParkton> multiple reasons but that is neither Ubuntu nor on topic lol
[18:13] <jParkton> im in offtopic though
[18:13] <BluesKaj> kunji, keep trying ...it's not working
[18:13] <kunji> jParkton: sorry, yes, lets get back on topic
[18:14] <tgm4883> jParkton: well it's good that you'll go offtopic to take shots at ubuntu (even when asked to stay ontopic) but will refrain from mentioning anything off topic when asked a direct question. Cool motives though
[18:14] <kunji> So then, back on topic, fixing a bad input/output that was not the result of a bad disk?
[18:14] <Razzdoll> Hi again. How would I stop the network manager from interfering with my usb adapter but still be able to use both my wireless usb, and ethernet connections?
[18:14] <nnnnooiiio> can i get lil help?on my old laptop ibm thinkpad t42 trying to instal lubuntu with usb flash and its hangs when i press instal or try lubuntu already did md5 test
[18:14] <histo> Razzdoll: What usb adapter
[18:15] <histo> !nomodeset | nnnnooiiio
[18:15] <Razzdoll> histo; alfa awus036nha
[18:15] <histo> Razzdoll: how is it interfering?
[18:15] <kunji> Razzdoll: You could ditch the network manage and manage the connection manually...
[18:15] <kunji> *manager
[18:15] <histo> Razzdoll: you could always deactivate that device
[18:16] <rafid> how i start to write system call in linux
[18:17] <histo> rafid: for what service?
[18:17] <kunji> Is ntfsprogs no longer in the repos?
[18:17] <rafid> any service
[18:18] <histo> !info ntfsprogs
[18:18] <histo> !info ntfs-utils
[18:18] <histo> kunji: ntfs-3g
[18:18] <sla_> kunji: I have tried something different first now - I have deleted one of my primary partitions (I have backed up the data before) and deleted it. Now I have just 2 primary partitions and the installer still does not show anything where I can install ubuntu on...
[18:18] <Razzdoll> histo, well i'm trying to use aircrack (for knowledge only), and its giving me an error about the other devices/software. (pid #'s and such), so in order to fix it, I need to kill all instances of such, but with that, im afraid will be my wired connection
[18:19] <jhulten> Are there any know issues with  http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:19] <histo> Razzdoll: what's giving the error
[18:19] <Slaizer> I don't have any internet connection on the computer which I would like to get the latest kernel on. I have an i7 processor. Which files do I need to download from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.1-rc1-vivid/?
[18:19] <kunji> sla_: You created an EXT4 partition?
[18:19] <histo> Razzdoll: and what is the error
[18:19] <OerHeks> Ubottu, please add: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/vivid/man8/ntfsprogs.8.html
[18:20] <Razzdoll> histo http://pastebin.com/7K2LFJ16
[18:20] <histo> Razzdoll: that's just a warning
[18:20] <histo> Razzdoll: you should stop network manager first
[18:20] <TJ-> Razzdoll: you might be able to do it using "no-auto-default=", see "man NetworkManager.conf", if that is sufficient
[18:21] <jhulten> We are seeing, first mergelist errors, then this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/11653820/
[18:22] <dcz> is there anybody  here how to use prolog ?
[18:23] <OerHeks> dcz, if prolog means a music device, you might ask in #ubuntu-studio
[18:23] <jhulten> dcz: You ask in #prolog?
[18:23] <kunji> Hmm, ntfsprogs don't seem to have anything to do what I want, unless I'm misreading ntfsfix...?
[18:23] <l0p3n> I recently installed ubuntu using the command line option (installing Ubuntu without a desktop environment). Now when I boot the computer all I see is a black screen. Any ideas?
[18:24] <d3bug> hello again
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | l0p3n start here
[18:25] <jParkton> I fail to see how that has anything to do with motives, but cool childishness level thar
[18:25] <Slaizer> which files do I need to install kernel 4.1, from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.1-rc1-vivid/?
[18:26] <d3bug> does anyone know how to read a single mode 1 data track RAW from a multisession CD?
[18:27] <Razzdoll> histo, TJ- - I just did NetworkManager stop, and everything went offline. So yea. lol. not doing that til I read more about it. I just want to be able to use this usb adapter with my ethernet connection, but its giving me problems because of the NetworkManager and the like.
[18:27] <sla_> kunji: no - not yet...  I am too wired right now ^^ I am creating
[18:27] <l0p3n> ubottu: Thanks I'll have a look at that
[18:27] <jParkton> Slaizer: what are you trying to do?
[18:27] <l0p3n> MonkeyDust: :)
[18:28] <histo> Razzdoll: that's not a problem it's just a warning
[18:28] <histo> Razzdoll: and like I said you can tell network manager not to manage that device
[18:28] <TJ-> jhulten: That sig is not good, have you run gpg on the file manually?
[18:28] <Slaizer> jParkton, install the latest Ubuntu kernel on a computer that doesn't have any internet connection. I think I need the following:  linux-headers-4.1.0-040100rc1-generic_4.1.0-040100rc1.201504270235_amd64.deb, linux-headers-4.1.0-040100rc1_4.1.0-040100rc1.201504270235_all.deb, 	linux-image-4.1.0-040100rc1-generic_4.1.0-040100rc1.201504270235_amd64.deb. Am i right here? I have this issue: Qualcomm Atheros doesn't work, and hoping that the latest kernel wil
[18:28] <Slaizer> l fix that.
[18:28] <kunji> Hmm, no chkdsk equivalent in Ubuntu right?
[18:29] <d3bug> kunji:  fsck
[18:29] <jParkton> Slaizer: you need an internet connection
[18:29] <histo> kunji: there is, what file system are you trying to check?
[18:29] <Slaizer> jParkton, I need to install the files from an USB.
[18:29] <jParkton> isnt there a modprobe you need to do?
[18:29] <jParkton> for the qualcomm?
[18:29] <Slaizer> jParkton, To install the latest kernel 4.1
[18:29] <kunji> d3bug: Ah, that's right, was that for NTFS though?   histo: NTFS
[18:30] <Slaizer> jParkton, hoping wifi work with the latest kernel.
[18:30] <d3bug> kunji: fsck.ntfs
[18:30] <jParkton> probably not
[18:31] <histo> kunji: ntfsfix
[18:31] <Razzdoll> histo, ok I did that, but now its not recognizing one or the other when I do ifconfig
[18:31] <kunji> histo: I don't think that does quite the same, it's a very light version that sets also sets the flag for windows to do it on next boot
[18:31] <histo> Razzdoll: you did what? You're not making any sense whatsoever.
[18:32] <jhulten> TJ-: We got it fixed. Thx.
[18:32] <d3bug> does anyone know how to read a single mode 1 data track RAW from a multisession CD?
[18:32] <jParkton> d3bug: is it mounted?
[18:33] <histo> kunji: fsck.ntfs = ntfsfix
[18:33] <sla_> kunja: sorry lost connection - I have created now that it looks like this: https://media-cdn.ubuntu-de.org/wiki/attachments/02/01/gp_fertig.png
[18:33] <d3bug> jParkton: no, it's not mounted... can't be.  it's not a filesystem that can be used directly.  I need to duplucate the track bit for bit which is why I saw RAW.
[18:33] <sla_> kunji: but the installer doesn't find it
[18:33] <Razzdoll> histo, haha, what? I want aircrack-ng to work using the usb adapter I got (alfa awus036nha), but it isnt because of my ethernet (wired) connection. it's interfering.
[18:34] <histo> Razzdoll: Again why do you think your ethernet is interfering?
[18:34] <kunji> There is no fsck.ntfs...
[18:34] <jParkton> honestly I dont think it possible but best of luck
[18:34] <Razzdoll> histo, because when I try to start the monitoring process, it gives me trouble.
[18:34] <TJ-> d3bug: have you tried "cdrdao" ?
[18:34] <kunji> There is ntfsck
[18:35] <histo> Razzdoll: WHAT trouble?
[18:35] <d3bug> TJ:  that will read the whole disc into a single file which is impossible to manipulate after that.
[18:35] <histo> kunji: right because fsck.ntfs is just a shell script to run ntfsfix
[18:35] <TJ-> d3bug: According to "man cdrdao" read-toc and read-cd will read the tracks
[18:35] <d3bug> TJ:  I need separate files for each track.
[18:35] <sla_> kunji: can it be, that the installer has changed in 14.04? I can not find the step shown here (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop) in step 3
[18:35] <kunji> histo: Ah, but ntfsfix doesn't do what chkdsk does, this will require  a reboot T.T
[18:36] <Razzdoll> histo, everytime I do 'airmon-ng' or 'airmon-ng start <interface>', it keeps saying the device is busy (-16) or adding another extension to the device name (ie wlan0 wlan0mon wlan0monmon wlan0monmonmon)
[18:36] <histo> kunji: ntfsfix runs several consistency checks. If you need more than that run windows
[18:36] <histo> Razzdoll: make sure you using the right device. Also see what else is managing the device you are trying to start a mon interface on.
[18:36] <kunji> sla_: O.o no step 3 would be a problem indeed, try the ncurses installer
[18:37] <al2o3-cr> Razzdoll: wlan0mon is your newly created monitor interface
[18:37] <d3bug> TJ:  those options are for CDDA not Data
[18:37] <kunji> histo: I do need more :P, as also indicated by the output of ntfsfix.... unless... does it need to be unmounted?
[18:37] <al2o3-cr> so it looks like you've created 3 ;p
[18:37] <histo> Razzdoll: lsof | grep wlan0  or whatever
[18:38] <TJ-> d3bug: it says cdrdao creates audio and data CD-Rs" ... isn't that what you want?
[18:38] <kunji> histo: nvm, no luck that way either
[18:38] <histo> kunji: yes it needs to be unmounted. What is the problem you are trying to fix in the first place?
[18:38] <Razzdoll> histo, no other is managing. that command resulted to an empty terminal line.
[18:38] <kunji> histo: I believe a loose cable created some problems while a large right was occuring to the drive
[18:38] <histo> Razzdoll: are you sure it's wlan0 ?
[18:39] <Jordan_U> kunji: If you have filesystem corruption on an ntfs volume you really need to use chkdsk from Windows to fix it.
[18:39] <kunji> Jordan_U: Yeah, looking that way
[18:39] <Razzdoll> histo, both eth0 and eth1 say ethernet, but i know that is not the case. So, now I am unsure
[18:39] <d3bug> TJ:  no.  this CD is data only (BeOS 4).  unfortunately the developers (in their infinite wisdom) decided that floppy drives would be around forever, and didn't make the CD bootable.  what I am trying to do is rip each data track individually, then make the ISO9660 part bootable, and burn each track in TAO mode onto a new disc.
[18:40] <histo> Razzdoll: if you aren't sure then how did you tell network manager to stop managing the device?
[18:41] <Razzdoll> histo because under system settings > Network, it said Wired, Wireless.
[18:41] <Razzdoll> histo, but I turned the wireless back on,b ecause all it did was turned it off
[18:41] <owen--> Hello all. Is there such a package in the repos that enables one to manage a whole series of applications, for a particular task? So instead of opening up several different applications for a specific job/project. I could for example name the project and it will manage several applications. Using Kubuntu 14.04
[18:42] <histo> Razzdoll: well once you sort your devices if you put iface whatever inet manual into your /etc/network/interfaces file network manager won't manage it
[18:42] <Razzdoll> Thanks histo
[18:43] <histo> Razzdoll: you really should just boot to kali linux or something already setup to do this sort of thing.
[18:44] <Razzdoll> histo, I'm not mischievous, I'm just wanting to learn :/
[18:44] <histo> Razzdoll: I know
[18:44] <histo> Razzdoll: have fun crack away at your own stuff
[18:44] <sh0t> hi guys
[18:44] <Razzdoll> histo, actually, going to go over to my relatives and try it on theirs. lol
[18:45] <Razzdoll> histo (i already know their password)
[18:45] <histo> sh0t: hello
[18:45] <OerHeks> owen--, there are metapackages, like kubuntu-restricted-extras and ubuntustudio-photography ( my favorite)
[18:45] <sh0t> how do i install a specific version of a package on ubuntu? For instance I need to install ocaml 4.02 but if do: apt-cache madison ocaml i can only see the version 4.01...
[18:45] <sh0t> is it possible to do with apt or do i need to go with tar.gz?
[18:46] <OerHeks> !info games-fps
[18:47] <Razzdoll> histo; if I can get this damn terminal window to not always reduce to the size of a .... pretzel rod
[18:47] <histo> lol
[18:47] <histo> sh0t: you
[18:47] <histo> sh0t: you'd have to install from source or use a ppa repo
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> sh0t  if you want something that's newer than what's in the repos, you need a ppa or .deb or so, but that's not supported here
[18:47] <Slaizer> I have an Qualcomm internet card, can't get it working. Someone to help me out?
[18:48] <brainwash_> sh0t: 4.02 is not available in the official repo (not even in the current development release)
[18:48] <owen--> OerHeks: I was thinking along the lines of if I was doing a specific jobA, then I would need a file manager open in a specific place, with a text editor open, perhaps two command line windows and libre office. The when I go back to doing jobA the next day I could have all this stuff opened automatically.
[18:48] <Jordan_U> sh0t: What is your end goal?
[18:48] <Razzdoll> histo,  yes it is called wlan0, but it has no ip information
[18:48] <sh0t> Jordan_U, installing all this software: http://pastebin.com/MZNRXpv8
[18:48] <histo> Razzdoll: it's probably not up that's all
[18:49] <Razzdoll> histo, the blue light is on the adapter, it has to be
[18:49] <OerHeks> owen--, add those apps to startup applications?
[18:49] <Jordan_U> sh0t: That's not an *end goal*. What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[18:49] <sh0t> ok histo MonkeyDust i ll try this ppa thing... brainwash_ i see it's not suppoerted..is there a irc channel I can specifically ask for this kind of question?
[18:49] <Slaizer> someone to guide me through this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1383184/comments/115?
[18:50] <d3bug> this is frustrating... you would think at some point SOMEONE would have tried to do what I am trying to do, get frustrated, and write some kind of utility to do it... esp. considering Linux is made for this sort of thing.  :S
[18:50] <sh0t> Jordan_U, how specific do u want me to be. I need to attend a school and that software is required.
[18:50] <Razzdoll> histo, http://pastebin.com/A45gGXLU - it lies to me!
[18:50] <sh0t> I don't know why they want that specific version...
[18:50] <Jordan_U> sh0t: That's a great answer, thank you.
[18:50] <owen--> OerHeks: But what if I then wanted to do jobB that uses another set of applications?
[18:51] <sla_> kunji: what shall I do with ncurses? How does it help me to install ubuntu?
[18:51] <sh0t> Jordan_U, are you being ironic? I didn't mean to be rude...it's just i don't know how to answer your question more than like I did...
[18:52] <owen--> OerHeks: I guess what I'm looking for is some kind of session manager, if such a thing exists.
[18:52] <d3bug> I can see it now... I'm gonna have to spend 6mo learning c++ just to do this one thing.   :|
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> d3bug  if you find a solution, then you are the expert
[18:52] <EriC^^> d3bug: what are whining about?
[18:52] <Johnny_Linux> it will be a continual asset if you learn it
[18:52] <EriC^^> *are you
[18:53] <brainwash_> sh0t: debian experimental has 4.02. maybe it will make it's way to 15.10, maybe even as backport for older releases
[18:53] <d3bug> EriC^^: I need to read a data CD (multisession) as separate tracks instead of reading the whole thing as one big BIN file.  I do not wish to mount the filesystems, but get a bit for bit RAW copy of these tracks.  Anyone got any ideas?  (there is no CDDA on this disc)
[18:54] <Jordan_U> sh0t: No, I'm being completely serious. "I was told I need it for a class" answers my question. Now I know that you're not trying to build a specific project (which is what most people looking to install such packages are trying to do, and they usually should accomplish that goal another way).
[18:54] <histo> Razzdoll: did you edit /etc/network/interfaces?
[18:54] <sh0t> ah ok Jordan_U :)
[18:54] <Razzdoll> histo,  no. didnt even know i had to
[18:55] <sh0t> i guess i'll go with .tar.gz...
[18:55] <sh0t> not very elegant
[18:55] <sh0t> though
[18:55] <sh0t> i am sure i am gonna have problems
[18:55] <Razzdoll> histo,  nothing is in there but # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
[18:55] <Razzdoll> auto lo
[18:55] <Razzdoll> iface lo inet loopback
[18:55] <brainwash_> sh0t: you can try to install the package (and its dependencies) manually from https://packages.debian.org/experimental/ocaml
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> d3bug  try 'jack' in a terminal... jack -k saves as .wav ... 'man jack' for more
[18:55] <histo> Razzdoll: you don't have to do anything. What are you trying to do with wlan0?
[18:55] <sh0t> is it the same brainwash_ for ubuntu?
[18:56] <SergioEDuran1> Hi
[18:56] <histo> sh0t: use checkinstall
[18:56] <d3bug> MonkeyDust:  these are not CDDA tracks.  they are Mode 1 data tracks
[18:56] <sh0t> histo, what's that?
[18:56] <histo> sh0t: it will make a deb for you from source for easy removal
[18:56] <sh0t> ah ok
[18:57] <histo> Razzdoll: if you are just trying to bring the interface up for whatever reason it needs to be defined in interfaces or you have to manage it with somehting like network manager.
[18:57] <dgarstang> Does ubuntu support authorized_keys.d ?
[18:58] <histo> dgarstang: do you mean does ssh support authorized keys?
[18:58] <brainwash_> sh0t: it can work, and it will work in many cases. still, you may encounter problems when installing packages from debian (or newer ubuntu releases)
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> d3bug  find 'mode 1' on this page
[18:59] <Jordan_U> sh0t: https://launchpad.net/~avsm/+archive/ubuntu/ocaml42+opam12
[18:59] <dgarstang> histo: on ubuntu, with a plugin directory, yes
[18:59] <hplc> is there any librarian program for us who wich to get the e-books sorted after such as year of publish?
[19:00] <sh0t> thanks Jordan_U it looks like what i needed
[19:00] <jmfurlott> Anyone know of some good Unity theme collections?
[19:00] <owen--> hplc: Have you tried Calibre
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> d3bug  oops, this page http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/cdrdao.1.html
[19:00] <sh0t> i'l ltry in a while
[19:01] <hplc_> can calibre do that? an ebook viewer?
[19:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> okay, so i added a /etc/init/foo.conf upstart script, and when i sudo service foo status, i get foo: unrecognized service
[19:01] <Quantos> Hey guys, 14.04.2 LTS fully patched, my bottom taskbar has gone kaput.  It's still there but instead of being black it's light grey and I can't right click on it
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> Quantos  bottom task bar? what DE are you using?
[19:01] <owen--> hplc: I think it can do that and much much more
[19:01] <Quantos> Gnome
[19:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> is there some additional step i need to perform to get upstart to recognize this new service?
[19:01] <hplc_> owen--, thanks :)
[19:02] <Jordan_U> sh0t: You're welcome.
[19:02] <Johnny_Linux> can linux do my dishes ??
[19:02] <NoImNotNineVolt> (i know systemd requires a `systemctl daemon-reload`, but i was told here that upstart will recognize the new service automagically (which seems to not be the case based on my testing))
[19:02] <brainwash_> NoImNotNineVolt: it's sudo status foo
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> Johnny_Linux  try dishes.wash --fast
[19:03] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[19:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> brainwash_: that doesn't work either. status: Unknown job: foo
[19:03] <brainwash_> NoImNotNineVolt: service is for sysvinit
[19:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> service is also for systemd.
[19:03] <owen--> Johnny_Linux: I think you could probably program the dishwasher with Linux
[19:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> service is also a generic wrapper that calls your init's binary of choice.
[19:03] <brainwash_> NoImNotNineVolt: thought it's systemctl
[19:03] <Johnny_Linux> prolly, it does everything else, maybe walk my dog next
[19:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> brainwash_: nope, service still works. for backwards compatibility.
[19:03] <brainwash_> NoImNotNineVolt: I see
[19:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> anyway, `status` gives the same problem.
[19:04] <Jordan_U> Johnny_Linux: Please take offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is for productive Ubuntu support discussion only.
[19:04] <Johnny_Linux> 10-4
[19:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> even though i'm looking at /etc/init/foo.conf
[19:04] <d3bug> Johnny_Linux:  yes, it can do your dishes... just install linux on an RB5X robot with the arm and wala...
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> d3bug  did you find 'mode 1' on this page (use ctrl f) http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/cdrdao.1.html
[19:05] <brainwash_> NoImNotNineVolt: I guess your upstart service file contains some invalid syntax or sth like that
[19:06] <NoImNotNineVolt> `initctl reload-configuration`
[19:06] <NoImNotNineVolt> apparently you guys were wrong. upstart doesn't automagically recognize newly-added scripts.
[19:15] <kunji> Guys, what happened to the text based installer?  Does it no longer exist?
[19:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> i used a console installer earlier today. looked fine to me.
[19:15] <Jordan_U> kunji: The server and minimal isos still use the text based debian-installer.
[19:15] <kunji> Jordan_U: But if you wanted a normal desktop install and the graphical one wasn't working?
[19:15] <kunji> Jordan_U: Is using the server one the closest to that now then?
[19:15] <Jordan_U> kunji: The minimal would allow you to do that, though you need to be connected to the internet (preferably via ethernet) during install.
[19:15] <Jordan_U> kunji: What "isn't working" about the graphical installer for you?
[19:15] <sh0t> Jordan_U, what if I now cannot isntall ledit because it says it requires ocaml 4.01?
[19:15] <sh0t> my god...:/
[19:15] <kunji> Jordan_U: For sla_ actually, it isn't showing the page where it allows you to choose something else for your partition configuration so he isn't able to assign the mount points to his partitions for the install.
[19:15] <jParkton> 4.01 is in the repos
[19:15] <jParkton> sooooo
[19:15] <Jordan_U> sh0t: You may want to create a chroot with Ocaml 4.0.2, unless ledit needs to interface directly with the compiler you're using (I'm not very familiar with either OCaml or ledit).
[19:15] <sh0t> Jordan_U, too late I already installed it in my vm without chroot
[19:16] <sh0t> what if i remove the ppa of ocaml4.02 install ocaml 4.01 install ledit and then remove ocaml 4.01?
[19:16] <Jordan_U> sh0t: You can always uninstall packages (ppa-purge is the tool to use to remove ppas completely, including reverting back to official versions of packages).
[19:16] <sh0t> mm ok Jordan_U  thanks
[19:16] <Jordan_U> sh0t: You're welcome.
[19:16] <brainwash_> NoImNotNineVolt: just curious, does `init-checkconf` return that your job file is valid?
[19:16] <sla_> Jordan_U: the installer also doesn't provide me the step were I have to choose "something else.." - first it shows me the language, followed by the network setup and the immediately leads me to the partition setup, where nothing is shown
[19:16] <dgarstang> Does ssh on ubuntu support something like authorized_keys.d ?
[19:16] <Jordan_U> sla_: Debian-installer isn't organized the same way as Ubiquity, there is no option called "something else", but everything that you can do with Ubiquity can also be done with debian-installer.
[19:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> touche :P
[19:16] <sla_> Jordan_U: but I should see the Ubiquity installer when I try to install Ubuntu, right?
[19:16] <Jordan_U> sla_: Sorry, mistook you for kunji (who was planning to use debian-installer).
[19:16] <sla_> hehe :D
[19:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> that was the problem. description wasn't quoted.
[19:16] <p_l> Hello! Anyone here knows workarounds for UEFI-booting machines that do not respect bootvars using Ubuntu's GRUB-signed stack? (14.04 LTS in this case?)
[19:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> apparently initctl reload-configuration is implicitly run when you start/stop/status ?
[19:17] <Jordan_U> p_l: Please describe the symptoms of the problem you're having.
[19:17] <Omnipotent> man you know you have a pro when you see them like Jordan_U
[19:17] <Omnipotent> :D
[19:18] <brainwash_> NoImNotNineVolt: I don't know. I'm not that interested in upstart anymore tough :)
[19:18] <p_l> Jordan_U: I've got an intel NUC which has broken efi bootvar handling - as such, I need to use fallback bootloader path (i.e. BOOTX64.EFI). The question is now which file(s) from Ubuntu's GRUB to copy there so that it finds its config properly and boots - right now, I get "no bootable device found" in the end
[19:18] <sla_> Jordan_U: so any idea what is wrong with my installation? here you can see the current fdisk output: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1n-ApJhSe_XNHhnQUxLc2RlVkk/view?usp=sharing
[19:18] <EriC^^> p_l: /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi or shimx64.efi for secureboot
[19:19] <EriC^^> p_l: when you mean copy there you mean copy and rename as bootx64.efi right?
[19:19] <Jordan_U> p_l: sudo grub-install --removable
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> d3bug  keep it in the channel please... try contacting the author of cdrdao ... Andreas Mueller <andreas@daneb.de>
[19:20] <p_l> Jordan_U: was that included already in the version used by 14.04?
[19:20] <Jordan_U> p_l: Yes.
[19:20] <edve> how to install ffmpeg on ubuntu 14.04 ?
[19:20] <edve> the command line ?
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> edve it should be there by default ... but better try avconv ... winff is a nice gui for ffmpeg/avconv
[19:22] <edve> i need that command to catch a stream and save it into a file.
[19:23] <edve> so I need a CLI command cause it's a Ubuntu server that will save it
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> edve  i guess vlc can do that
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> ah ok
[19:23] <Slaizer> will Qualcomm Atheros ever work under Linux?
[19:24] <edve> Yeah but a guy into the VLC irc told me to use ffmpeg to catch it :/
[19:25] <p_l> Jordan_U: so, grub-install --removable /dev/sda is now in the script, waiting for the install to go through...
[19:26] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: works perfectly fine
[19:26] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, how do you mean? not having an internet connection with Qualcomm Ahteros is your definition of just working fine?
[19:27] <OerHeks> "Qualcomm Ahteros" has many chipsets
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> edve  type this in a terminal, then use /save to look for "save" (or any word you're looking for) : vlc --longhelp --advanced > vlc_help; less vlc_help
[19:30] <Slaizer> my Qualcomm Atheros Device 003e is not one of the functioning chipset
[19:30] <NCS_One> hi
[19:30] <NCS_One> is there some way to recover a file I just deleted with rm?
[19:33] <EriC^^> NCS_One: there's testdisk and photorec
[19:33] <EriC^^> !info testdisk
[19:33] <Ben64> NCS_One: if the file is open, yes. if not, you'd have to use testdisk or photorec
[19:38] <Jordan_U> p_l: In what sctipt? You shouldn't pass /dev/sda as it's meaningless (and therefore ignored) on UEFI.
[19:38] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: what does `modinfo ath9k | grep 003E` ?
[19:40] <p_l> Jordan_U: the machine is few hundred kilometers from me, installing with preseed and a post-install script downloaded into chroot
[19:40] <p_l> i can only watch it from syslog data sent to boot server by debian-installer :)
[19:40] <d3bug> anyone know of a linux tool to edit an existing ISO to make it bootable?
[19:41] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, nothing
[19:41] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: also try with ath10k_core and ath10k_pci
[19:43] <p_l> Jordan_U: anyway, thanks - the braindamaged intel nuc booted :)
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> d3bug  http://sourceforge.net/projects/systemback/  <-- "Live system creation"
[19:44] <Jordan_U> p_l: You're welcome :)
[19:44] <p_l> I have >50 of them to autoinstall remotely :)
[19:45] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, http://pastebin.com/9M4eZGHp
[19:45] <kuba7447> hi, how do i delete the example folder?, i moved it to trash and deleted it, but i can still see that sample song
[19:46] <TJ-> d3bug: I used k3d  with a boot.img I created especially
[19:46] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: try: sudo modprobe ath10k_pci ?
[19:46] <d3bug> TJ:  thx  let me give it a whirl.
[19:48] <d3bug> MonkeyDust:  that is not even in the same universe as what I am trying to do... but ty anyway.
[19:48] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, nothing. And I have the latest kernel, 4.1.
[19:48] <TJ-> d3bug: a long time ago, I'm not finding my notes or the project now, probably on another system
[19:48] <histo> isn't the ath10k driver busted
[19:49] <lavinho> ooix
[19:49] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, will this Qualcomm Athero card work in a near future under Linux? This Acer Aspire VN7-791G is brand new.
[19:49] <TJ-> d3bug: I know I wrote up extensive notes on the steps
[19:49] <lavinho> algum tuga por aqui
[19:49] <d3bug> TJ:  I am sure if it allows me to open an existing ISO, the steps won't be too hard.
[19:50] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: probably will in due time, that chipset is brand new
[19:50] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, I am better off waiting a couple of months?
[19:51] <d3bug> Slaizer:  if that long... one thing that is great about Linux is someone somewhere is working on everything you can imagine at any given moment... :)
[19:51] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: I would if I were you, because that is a spanking brand new chipset
[19:51] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: I can't even find the firmware for it anywhere
[19:52] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, Okey, I am going to windows and hope this issue will be fixed at the end of the summer.
[19:52] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: or just buy a cheap usb one for now if that is an option to you?
[19:52] <pablo383> asdasdas
[19:52] <pablo383> asda
[19:52] <pablo383> sda
[19:52] <pablo383> sd
[19:52] <pablo383> asd
[19:52] <pablo383> as
[19:52] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, This card will be fixed under Linux at the end of the summer, definitely?
[19:53] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: I can't say for certain
[19:53] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, I have an expensive USB, like 70 dollar. But it does not work
[19:53] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: what is it?
[19:54] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, Zyxel, model number: NWD2705
[19:54] <d3bug> TJ:  ok, there is nowhere to edit the existing ISO in K3b.
[19:55] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, http://www.zyxel.com/se/sv/products_services/nwd2705.shtml?t=p
[19:56] <TJ-> d3bug: you need to extract the boot.img first - I think that requires a cmd-line tool, then the boot.img can be specified when authoring a new image
[19:57] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, will this card work?
[19:57] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: yep, no support for that to upto yet
[19:57] <Jordan_U> Slaizer: Internal wireless cards are much more likely to work than USB ones.
[19:58] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, So will I be able to use Linux in a near future, less I switch to a external USB port?
[19:58] <TJ-> d3bug: I think probably it requires extracting the ISO contents and rebuilding to use K3B to include a boot.img
[19:58] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: yep, but how long I don't know
[19:59] <TJ-> d3bug: this is bugging me because I spent a lot of time figuring out how to create a bootable device with multiple boot options in the El Torito image
[19:59] <Slaizer> al2o3-cr, can you PM your guys and say that a guy wants this working? :P
[19:59] <d3bug> TJ:  it's not going to be that simple... let me explain.   This is a BeOS 4 CD.  The boot image is in the format of a 720k floppy image called IMAGE.Z on the iso9660 session of the disc (track1).  I have copied that boot image to ~ to work with it.  If I were under windows it would be simple... MagicISO or PowerISO do these things.
[20:00] <histo> d3bug: are you sure no one else has done this work already?
[20:00] <al2o3-cr> Slaizer: I'm still waiting for support for the Realtek RTL8188EUS
[20:00] <d3bug> TJ:  I want to do this without extracting the files or otherwise editing the ISO (only adding the boot image if possible).   I am sure unfortunatly.
[20:00] <TBotNik>  /msg NickServ identify myisp
[20:01] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: Change your password.
[20:01] <d3bug> lmao
[20:01] <d3bug> oopsie
[20:01] <histo> I wonder how many peoples passwords I have logged
[20:01] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: And in the future, always use the "server" window when messaging nickserv, so that this type of mistake can't happen in the future.
[20:01] <d3bug> yeah
[20:02] <d3bug> what (s)he said.
[20:02] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: What Server window, there is none
[20:02] <d3bug> TBotNik u using webchat or something?
[20:03] <TBotNik> Quassel
[20:03] <savino_> where you see a large text of info with Mod files with rulles
[20:03] <TJ-> d3bug: It should be possible to create a new image with a boot.img included, based on the original
[20:03] <histo> lol there's some good ones in my logs
[20:04] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: First change your password, and just be careful to not include a space before the '/', then (and don't skip this step!) join #quassel and ask them how to safely /msg nickserv in the future.
[20:04] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: Used Trillion, when back on Windows, 10+ years ago and it had the NICKSERV window, but not this beast
[20:05] <d3bug> TJ:  I may just put in wine and PowerISO to make my life easier... :P
[20:06] <TJ-> d3bug: yeah :) ... I know I worked on it because I submitted patches for a bug with the boot.img code where it assumed a fixed sector size
[20:07] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: It worked when I ran it in the #freenode chat session!1
[20:07] <d3bug> TJ:  how is wine64 coming along (if you know)?
[20:07] <nonnnn> hey who helped me with old t42 thinkpad?forgot to say thanks...
[20:07] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: You still don't understand the problem.
[20:08] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: My Q: Is there are release of 14.04 out yet that has the "recovery" mode option, when booting the Live DVD?
[20:08] <yecril71pl> Which package provides libbz2.pc?
[20:08] <d3bug> TBotNik:  no... that you did was give everyone in this chat room your password.
[20:08] <d3bug> that=what
[20:08] <TJ-> d3bug: I have no idea, I don't use it. I've found the bug, that's helping me get a timeline for when and where my notes may be: bug #1266461
[20:09] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: You mistypted, and included a space before '/', so you meant to type "/msg nickserv ..." and instead typed " /msg nickserv". You *will* accidentally make this typo again, so you need to learn how to get to the server channel or otherwise message nickserv without having a simple typo announce your password to the world.
[20:10] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: No I did not include the space before the command.  Do not know how it got there, so following your suggestion on changing the password
[20:11] <OerHeks> there is no such thing on any live cd, recovery option is only on installed ubuntu
[20:11] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: And you will also follow my suggesting of joining #quassel and figuring out how to do this safely in the future?
[20:11] <OerHeks> what do you want to recover from live iso, TBotNik ?
[20:12] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: PWD already reset, Thanks
[20:14] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: But you still haven't joing #quassel and asked how to safely identify or otherwise message nickserv.
[20:15] <TBotNik> I run 8 Ubuntu boxes and 14.04 has been so unstable, they are all not running the same and should be.  I need uniformity to correctly enable syncing between them as they cross compile data
[20:15] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: I did all with NICKSERVE
[20:16] <guilherme3333> linux
[20:16] <goldenucf> hi all... I got a DVD-R that was recorded by a video device, and it didn't seem to burn correctly and I can't open it... is there any way to get the data off of it?
[20:17] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: I'm going to quiet you in this channel for one hour, or until you join #quassel as I asked you to. If you wish to discuss your quiet please join #ubuntu-ops. Again, all you need to do is "/join #quassel" and ask them how to safely identify and communicate with nickserv and I will remove the quiet immediately.
[20:22] <Ranger15> Jordan_U  OT but do you like Quassel?
[20:22] <Spec-Chum> I do :)
[20:22] <Spec-Chum> pity I don't like KDE tho :p
[20:22] <Ranger15> I see
[20:22] <Ranger15> Looking at the wiki now.
[20:22] <Ranger15> Looks interesting
[20:23] <Jordan_U> Ranger15: I only tried it briefly, years ago, so I have no opinion.
[20:23] <Ranger15> I see thx.
[20:23] <Christopher-Were> Hi, I can't seem to find the config files for Deja Dup. How would I go about finding out where they are?
[20:24] <Spec-Chum> Christopher-Were, I've never used it (use grsync) but try in .config
[20:24] <Christopher-Were> i can't find it there. I've looked in all the obvious places
[20:24] <Spec-Chum> ~/.gconf/apps/deja-dup/ ?
[20:25] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: I thought you were referring to doing "/msg NICKSERV" rather than "/msg nickser", where you appear to be saying you're using a different window or equivalent now. Your quiet has been lifted.
[20:25] <Spec-Chum> ~/.config/dconf ?
[20:25] <Christopher-Were> It's not there Spec-Chum
[20:25] <TBotNik> Spec-Chum: Wouldn't leave home without KDE, beats native Ubuntu, and crushes that "UNITY" windows wannabe crap!
[20:26] <Spec-Chum> TBotNik, I can't put my finger on it, something just doesn't click with me
[20:26] <Spec-Chum> looks nice tho
[20:26] <Hobbyboy> When I try to reboot networking with sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0, it doesn't bring the network back up
[20:26] <Spec-Chum> I think it's partly due to me using gnome apps for so long
[20:26] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: Back to my 14.04 Q.  Do you have an answer?
[20:26] <acz32> is there a way to hide AM/PM in KDE's digital clock? takes too much space in panel
[20:27] <Spec-Chum> TBotNik, saying that, I've nbot tried plasma 5 yet
[20:27] <Spec-Chum> might give the live a whirl
[20:27] <stacks88> by ust running a2dismod php5 , that "php5" is essentially mod_php right?
[20:28] <stacks88> just*
[20:28] <Christopher-Were> Would it be possible for someone to help me please?
[20:28] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: The recovery shell that was included in the text based installers simply setup a chroot. That's easy enough to do from a LiveCD if you know how, and then you also have the full Live environment at your disposal.
[20:28] <badboy17> Out of curiosity, what distro are you guys running?
[20:28] <stacks88> 14.04
[20:29] <mrwn> i have a aws ec2 instance, now i can't connect to it, before that happens, i deleted all files under /var/cache, is this the reason?
[20:29] <k1l_> badboy17: we try to keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. for chatting we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:29] <savino_> 12 14 lts 15
[20:29] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: The 3 packages that have to work on all 3 are LAMP, Dropbox and Teamviewer.  One machine will not install TV, one has LAMP issues, another has Dropbox, but it is not syncing with the host.  All part of the 14.04 crap load we've been dealing with since it first appeared!
[20:29] <savino_> with XFCE
[20:30] <tgm4883> mrwn: shouldn't be. You should just need to specify the SSH key that you downloaded from them
[20:31] <mrwn> tgm4883:  i login as i do normaly, i get "connection timed out"
[20:31] <Christopher-Were> Does anyone else here use Deja Dub?
[20:31] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: What does that have to do with the "recovery mode" question you asked earlier, or is this a new question?
[20:32] <royg59>  n00b question: How do I go about adding a simple "print as booklet" feature to evince?
[20:32] <royg59>  currently, the only way to do it is this tedious thing that could easily be scripted -- (https://help.gnome.org/users/evince/stable/duplex-npage.html.en)
[20:32] <royg59> so I want to script it, and incorporate it directly into the standard print menu
[20:33] <royg59> I've downloaded the evince source package, but I have no idea where the print menu and the print features are.
[20:33] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: You are talking GRUB recovery.  Do not even have that issue (well one machine just took that dive last week.  I have Ubuntu core recovery issues!  The 14.04 core has been corrupt since day one.  It think it finally got fixed 3 weeks ago, because I successfully and seemlessly upgraded my 12.04 box at work, without issues, where attempting this on other machines always caused extreme problems!
[20:36] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: Some call it the "Resue" mode, not the "Recovery" mode.  Means the same to me, but saw all the Grub Recovery stuff online, which is not part of my problem accross these machines.
[20:36] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: I am not talking about grub recovery at all. What "recovery" feature are you missing, and what did it do?
[20:37] <TBotNik> SP: Rescue not Resue
[20:37] <Christopher-Were> Does anyone here use Deja-Dup? Have you had this issue?
[20:38] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: If you're talking about the option that would allow you to get to a shell on your installed system, while actually booted into the installer, that was a very thin wrapper around chroot. If you're talking about something else, you need to describe better what exactly it allowed you to do.
[20:39] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: The recovery I'm talking about completely replaces all core/kernel files with new to restore any corrupted or incorrect files, giving you a new OS without formatting or touching any personal stuff.
[20:40] <k1l_> TBotNik: ubuntu doesnt have such a thing. the only thing you can try is a reinstall over an existing ubuntu.
[20:40] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: This "Recovery" did not require chroot to anything and always was available before.
[20:40] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: The closest I have seen to what you describe is the option to re-install while preserving /home/ (which, despite what many people claim, does *not* require /home/ to be on a separate partition).
[20:40] <k1l_> personal stuff will be kept in the /home partition. so if you dont format that it will be kept
[20:41] <tgm4883> TBotNik: I've never seen that. What version was it available on?
[20:41] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: Show me what you have cause not going through that crap of reformatting or creating a new partition again!
[20:42] <TBotNik> tgm4883: I've always had it on every version from 6.04 to 12.04!
[20:42] <blimpOS> hi all, i have a weird question can  a programmer become an entreupreuner or is it better that the entreupreuneur be a business mind more than a geek/programmer?
[20:42] <TBotNik> Always came us in my Grub boot options menu
[20:43] <royg59> n00b question: How do I go about adding a simple "print as booklet" feature to evince?
[20:43] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: What do you mean by "show me what you have"? You want me to explain how to re-install while preserving /home/ ? Note this will *not* preserve any of your system wide configuration, so you will lose all of /etc/ and any extra packages installed.
[20:43] <tgm4883> TBotNik: and it's in the live environment, or the boot menu when you launch the live cd?
[20:43] <royg59> n00b question: How do I go about adding a simple "print as booklet" feature to evince?
[20:43] <royg59> Currently, the only way to do it is this tedious thing that could easily be scripted -- (https://help.gnome.org/users/evince/stable/duplex-npage.html.en)...
[20:43] <royg59> So I want to script it, and incorporate it directly into the standard print menu...
[20:43] <royg59> I've downloaded the evince source package, but I have no idea where the print menu and the print features are...
[20:43] <royg59> Can someone hold my hand, and walk me through the process?...
[20:43] <TBotNik> blimpOS: Depends on the audience!!
[20:43] <tgm4883> TBotNik: ah, I think I know what you're talking about
[20:43] <k1l_> !ot | blimpOS
[20:43] <blimpOS> TBotNik: technology entreupreuneruship
[20:44] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: The recovery mode boot option in grub never did what you're explaining, and it's still there. You can select it through the "Advanced options for Ubuntu" submenu at the grub main menu.
[20:44] <TBotNik> tgm4883: Was in both for me!!  Could always recover either way!
[20:44] <royg59> sorry about flooding. i accidentally into the wrong channel
[20:44] <blimpOS> so better ti be technica lright?
[20:44] <savino_> drone need hard works this day see i /Giggles
[20:45] <TBotNik> tgm4883: There is a recover or debug mode in the Grub boot after install, but not the full set, so does not fix any broken packages.
[20:51] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: You were telling me about a "re-install" option! Please continue!
[20:52] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[20:55] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: Example is my laptop here!  Has Apache issues within LAMP, so all web pages at root level do not work and none of the aliases! Does not synce anything to Dropbox
[20:58] <phy1729> Is it possible to give debconf answers from the command line (apt-get invocation)?
[21:00] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: The link you sent, the write up has major holes!  EX: Run the Ubuntu installer, repeated twice and does not at all tell what this is!  Is this the Live DVD, or if this is cmd line, should give the command.  If application within the launcher, needs explaination of where or pix of it!
[21:00] <royg59> how do I modify the global print dialog? I wan to add a "print as booklet" feature to the Page Setup tab
[21:01] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: These instructions apply to the graphical installer (there is only one graphical installer), ubiquity.
[21:05] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: Calling ubiquity from cmd line?
[21:05] <aethersis> hi, is there a possibility that if I run a trojan or a virus inside of Wine, it will infect my operating system?
[21:06] <tgm4883> aethersis: yes
[21:06] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: Yes. Or just click the "install Ubuntu" icon on the Desktop of the Live environment.
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> aethersis  yu mean your ubuntu system?
[21:08]  * tgm4883 wonders why we're doing a reinstall instead of just fixing each piece
[21:08] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: Not on my machine, so installing with apt-get install ubiquity
[21:08] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: *NO*
[21:08] <TBotNik> What?
[21:09] <Jordan_U> TBotNik: You don't run Ubiquity while booted into your installed system. Ubiquity is on the LiveDVD install image. Boot from an Ubuntu LiveDVD/USB to re-install Ubuntu.
[21:10] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: but that just wants to reformat and install a new instance, not repair my current vesion, which is totally unacceptable.  The old recovery did not do that!
[21:10] <daniela> diego menotti
[21:11] <Zack263> do you guys know of an oldstyle theme for ubuntu that has the colors of QMODEM from the 1980s... blue background, yellows and grey texts?
[21:11] <k1l_> TBotNik: there is no "old recovery". you seem to mix things there.
[21:11] <Zack263> I like retro styling
[21:11] <Zack263> like bbses of old time
[21:12] <aethersis> MonkeyDust: I mean my ubuntu system
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> !theme | Zack263 start here
[21:13] <TBotNik> tgm4883: Have no idea of what to fix.  The old recovery installers autoided and fixed the broken packages, so fixing a broken install was easy.
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> aethersis  windows viruses do nothing on linux
[21:13] <Zack263> ok i'll give it a search
[21:13] <aethersis> but they can be run on wine lol
[21:14] <Zack263> they need to get paltalk to run on wine! :p
[21:14] <TBotNik> Guys gotta run, be back later!
[21:14] <tgm4883> aethersis: yes, windows viruses that you run in wine can affect your system
[21:14] <aethersis> oh no
[21:14] <Zack263> ekkk that dont sound so good
[21:15] <tgm4883> aethersis: wine isn't a sandbox
[21:15] <Jordan_U> MonkeyDust: aethersis: If you install spyware in wine that searches for credit card numbers and other sensitive files, it is quite likely that it will find such files even if they're outside of the fake "Drive C:" wine creates.
[21:15] <aethersis> :O
[21:15] <tgm4883> aethersis: what did you do....
[21:16] <aethersis> nothing, it's a purely hypothetical question
[21:16] <aethersis> but if I uninstall wine, then it will kill the viruses righ? :T
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> aethersis  what are you worried about?
[21:16] <aboudreault> should I get a coredump when the  OOM killer kills a process? I assume so with oom_dump_tasks set to 1?
[21:17] <tgm4883> aethersis: this feels like homework...
[21:17] <aethersis> homework? no lol
[21:17] <aethersis> I'm worried that if I install crack for Age of Empires II, it will infect my ubuntu
[21:18] <tgm4883> aethersis: simple, don't install a cracked version of AoE 2
[21:18] <polishpoliceforc> anyone way to use gucview to make changes to a webcam permanent?
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> aethersis  illegal actions are not supported here
[21:18] <aethersis> I cannot install not cracked version of AoE2 because I don't have an optical drive
[21:18] <aethersis> I have original version of AoE2 on CD though
[21:18] <tgm4883> aethersis: so get one?
[21:18] <aethersis> so what I am doing is perfectly legal
[21:19] <tgm4883> no, no it is not
[21:19] <aethersis> it is
[21:19] <aethersis> in my country
[21:19] <k1l_> !wine | aethersis ask the wine specialists
[21:19] <tgm4883> aethersis: lets say that is it perfectly legal in your country, those shady activities are not supported here
[21:19] <aethersis> I already did
[21:20] <aethersis> they said it can be infected
[21:20] <aethersis> I mean that it can infect my OS
[21:20] <quants> Hi guys, I cant download from the download links on this website. any advice??  http://www.cyberage.cx/index.php?page=archives
[21:20] <pankid> I keep getting flagged as not PCI compliant for CVE-2014-8109 on Ubuntu 14.04. It is pertaining to mod_lua, which as far as I can tell does not ship with apache2 on ubuntu 14.04. I feel like this pci scanner is being dumb and just flagging it based on the apache2 version.
[21:20] <brainwash_> !warez
[21:20] <acz32> aethersis: you have asked the same question in at least 3 different channels now. are we done yet?
[21:20] <aethersis> yes
[21:20] <tgm4883> aethersis: just go buy a CD drive
[21:20] <aethersis> thank you
[21:20] <aethersis> no, I don't need one
[21:21] <tgm4883> aethersis: apparently you do
[21:21] <aethersis> and it makes noise. My PC is perfectly quiet
[21:21] <Seveas> pankid: if mod lua is not installed, or not enabled, show your PCI auditor evidence of that and you should pass.
[21:22] <aethersis> I disassembled 5 optical drives trying to get laser diodes out of them and only a very old one had a laser diode that could be refurbished :p
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> aethersis  what was your initial question? stick to support questions
[21:22] <Seveas> pankid: and in general pci scanners are extremely dumb.
[21:22] <k1l_> aethersis: we cant tell you what a windows virus can do to wine and if that can get out of the wine layer (i would guess it could because xorg security is a nightmare) and harm the ubuntu system.
[21:22] <pankid> Seveas: Thanks. I just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing something. I am new to the whole PCI thing.
[21:22] <quants> Any idea why I cant download from these links?? http://www.cyberage.cx/index.php?page=archives
[21:23] <aethersis> yeah, not to mentions I have packets from xorg-edgers installed xD
[21:23] <Seveas> pankid: you're in for a world of pain. And learn to love the term "compensating control" :)
[21:23] <aethersis> so I think it might be even worse now
[21:23] <aethersis> is there any better alternative to Xorg?
[21:23] <aethersis> it's pretty damn old I think
[21:23] <k1l_> aethersis: not a working solution for daily usage so far
[21:24] <aethersis> unbelievable
[21:24] <aethersis> anyway thank you k1l_
[21:24] <quants> k1l_ hows it going?
[21:24] <pankid> Seveas: I have never heard of that term before you mentioned it. I opened up the dispute findings tab and there it is again.
[21:24] <tgm4883> k1l_: well being that you can browse and write to the linux filesystem from within wine, I'd say it can do almost whatever it wants
[21:25] <Seveas> pankid: it basically means "I think your control is bonkers, and here's what I tend to implement instead, which will satisfy the intent of the rule"
[21:25] <Jordan_U> aethersis: Wayland is *almost* ready for daily usage IMHO. I've used a wayland session for a few days (with only a few apps using Xwayland) with only a few minor glitches.
[21:25] <k1l_> tgm4883: i thought it was some windows c drive layer between. but that is even worse than.
[21:25] <Blue_Sapphire> A new update for Android Studio has come out, i have 1.0.1, and I am not sure of how to go about updating. I do not have the option to automatically update so I downloaded the 1.2.1.1 stable patch (.zip) and i'm not sure what to do with it. According to the website it should install a patch instead of a full IDE image but i dont know what to do with the .zip file.
[21:25] <aethersis> does Wayland work with KDE?
[21:26] <tgm4883> k1l_: there is a fake C drive, but IIRC there is another drive that is your home directory
[21:26] <pankid> Seveas: Like when it flags me for having port 22 open even though I use ssh keys, disable root login, and have fail2ban running.
[21:26] <Jordan_U> aethersis: KDE is much less far along with implementing full wayland support. GNOME3 is what I tried.
[21:26] <tgm4883> k1l_: wine isn't a sandbox, I don't believe they have ever pretended to write for security
[21:26] <k1l_> Jordan_U: aethersis there is still _a lot_ of xorg stuff used in the wayland desktops.
[21:26] <aethersis> Jordan_U: I see. I found KDE to be the best environment for me
[21:26] <Seveas> pankid: yup.
[21:27] <Seveas> pankid: though on public IP addresses I'd still move ssh to a different port to get quieter logs :)
[21:27] <k1l_> tgm4883: i dont use wine. i dont even blame wine. they try to provide a solution that is requested.
[21:27] <quants> I need help!!!
[21:28] <Seveas> pankid: It doesn't make you safer (you're pretty safe already), but helps staying sane :)
[21:28] <tgm4883> k1l_: me neither. I used to, but I've found alternatives for my software
[21:28] <Seveas> quants: don't we all
[21:28] <quants> Seveas so true, can i see some advice?
[21:28] <k1l_> quants: ask the admin
[21:28] <Seveas> quants: don't eat yellow snow!
[21:29] <quants> Seveas, thanks :0
[21:30] <quants> Seveas, can you tell me why i cant download from a download link?
[21:30] <bekks> quants: Can you tell us an error message you get?
[21:30] <Jkessler> quants: what browser?
[21:31] <k1l_> quants: ask the admin of that site, why their site is broken. not us. we cant fix their site
[21:31] <Seveas> I use right-alt as compose key. But since a while (don't know when exactly, could be since I upgraded to 15.04), the compose key sometimes stops working. It then only works in the unity dash. not in gedit, not in terminator, not in firefox or anything else I tried. A reboot doesn't always fix this. What could possibly cause this?
[21:32] <Jkessler> quants: if using firefox, try creating a new profile. or install chrome to troubleshoot
[21:32] <Blue_Sapphire> A new update for Android Studio has come out, i have 1.0.1, and I am not sure of how to go about updating. I do not have the option to automatically update so I downloaded the 1.2.1.1 stable patch (.zip) and i'm not sure what to do with it. According to the website it should install a patch instead of a full IDE image but i dont know what to do with the .zip file.
[21:32] <Jkessler> don't know about the compose key
[21:33] <quants> bekks, i dont get an error message, jkessler i have tried Firefox and Crome
[21:33] <bekks> quants: So tell us whats happening.
[21:34] <quants> Bekks I am trying to download some music from this site http://www.cyberage.cx/index.php?page=archives but i just cant seem to do it
[21:35] <bekks> quants: Why not? Could you start to provide some details?
 Bekks I am trying to download some music from this site http://www.cyberage.cx/index.php?page=archives but i just cant seem to do it
[21:35] <bekks> quants: Why not...?
[21:35] <Jkessler> quants: just no action when clicking hyperlinks? i'd try a clean install if you upgraded from an earlier version. upgrades can be buggy. maybe not the best answer but it's what i'd do, backup, install common packages, update and be done. but i've moved to mint since they started pushing unity over knome.
[21:35] <Jkessler> gnome*
[21:36] <bunty> what are the possible players for RTSP streaming on ubuntu touch?
[21:36] <brainwash_> !touch
[21:37] <xangua> quants: right clic, save as
[21:37] <Blue_Sapphire> A new update for Android Studio has come out, i have 1.0.1, and I am not sure of how to go about updating. I do not have the option to automatically update so I downloaded the 1.2.1.1 stable patch (.zip) and i'm not sure what to do with it. According to the website it should install a patch instead of a full IDE image but i dont know what to do with the .zip file.
 sorry im a newb,  im trying to (save link as) and i get this message: The download cannot be saved because an unknown error occurred.  Please try again.
 not working
[21:38] <bekks> quants: So try another browser. If that doesnt work, ask the admin of that site.
[21:38] <k1l_> quants: ok again and last time now: their site is broken. so talk to the website admin to fix their page.
 <bekks> thanks guys, im new to computers.  ill contact them now.
[21:43] <kostkon> Blue_Sapphire, use Ubuntu-make aka ubuntu make
[21:43] <kostkon> Blue_Sapphire, from now on*
[21:43] <Blue_Sapphire> kostkon, i use a hashtag before? like #ubuntu-make?
[21:44] <Blue_Sapphire> #ubuntu-make
[21:45] <kostkon> Blue_Sapphire, http://blog.didrocks.fr/post/Ubuntu-Make%3A-the-new-Ubuntu-Developer-Tools-Center-name!    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-make
[21:45] <Blue_Sapphire> ok, thank you
[21:52] <mikubuntu> omg. losing my mind. finally got a live session going of lubuntu 1204 running on this hp mini 1000. but it won't recognize ethernet, so i can't download broadcom wireless drivers and i don't know how to export the jockey log so maybe someone could help me diagnose. any ideas?
[21:54] <tgm4883> mikubuntu: why 12.04 and not 14.04?
[21:54] <tgm4883> mikubuntu: I thought the ethernet on that worked OOTB, I'd have to go home and boot mine up
[21:54] <mikubuntu> 1404 was giving me black screen of death
[21:55] <mikubuntu> had several people helping me, and one of the suggestions was to try 1204
[21:55] <OerHeks> THe BCM driver should be available in additional drivers
[21:56] <lessbius> how can I block all connections except for those initiated by the browser or flash?
[21:56] <tgm4883> lessbius: block all outgoing connections?
[21:57] <mikubuntu> i tried 1204 full flavor ubuntu, but it seemed like too much for the little box to handle and just froze up -- so after a break i came back and burned a 1204 lubuntu stick -- the box is not getting hung up per se, but i can neither get it to connect on wire, so i can't dl the wreless drivers for broadcom
[21:58] <hplc_> how will html5 affect PHP and ASP?
[21:58] <lessbius> tgm4883: I'm trying to analyze traffic generated by a specific flash app, but it spawns enough separate connections to make it a pain to isolate its stuff in wireshark. So I'm looking for a way to minimize what wireshark's picking up.
[21:59] <bazhang> hplc_, not on topic here
[22:03] <hplc_> mikubuntu, if possible, plug in a usb wifi card or usb rj45 and access the machine with ssh from another computer?
[22:04] <hplc_> mikubuntu, ...perhaps u tried that though
[22:06] <tgm4883> personally I'd try a non-unity version of 14.04
[22:06] <tgm4883> xubuntu perhaps
[22:08] <nomic> xubuntu is xfce
[22:08] <nomic> is very good
[22:09] <savino_> i like xfce she is so small
[22:09] <hplc_> in absolutely worst case i would have tried to go serial cable and ....eeeehm, name of that app?? "Kermit"? was it?
[22:11] <mikubuntu> hplc_: no, how could i do that? the rj45 connection i mean -- the little box only has one usb port and that has the live stick in it, but if i could do with the ethernet cord that would be cool
[22:15] <mikubuntu> hplc_: is ssh built in to the live lubuntu 1204?
[22:16] <hplc_> wasnt the standard nic down?
[22:18] <hplc_> then you need an usb rj45 adapter, or bluetooh, or direct usb to usb link
[22:21] <mikubuntu> hplc_: so you can't just connect rj45 to rj45?
[22:24] <hplc_> yes, but i thought you said the network card did not start at all?
[22:25] <skits> Just got a new server. Default and only option was for ubuntu 10.10.  I want to install Ubuntu 14.10server. I only have access via ssh atm. so any restarts or interaction need to be able to be maintained through ssh. Is this possible using apt-get or some other means without using ssh functionality?
[22:26] <skits> loosing^
[22:26] <mikubuntu> hplc_: are you talking to me?
[22:26] <hplc_> mikubuntu, yes
[22:26] <pavlos> mikubuntu, looked at the hp mini 1000 specs, it does have an ethernet connection so you should be able to have wired ethernet.
[22:27] <mikubuntu> pavlos: yes but it wouldn't work when i had it wired right to the modem
[22:27] <OerHeks> skits, 10.10 ? then you would need to go trough 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 > 14.04 > 14.10 ...
[22:28] <mikubuntu> the wireless card would work if i could get the driver installed, because it works on xp thats running on the box
[22:28] <OerHeks> skits, "new server" .. is it a VPS by any chance ? then you would need their images
[22:29] <OerHeks> most of them are heavily tweaked.
[22:29] <skits> No its a dedicated server. and I saw something about the do-release upgrade thing being depreceated
 upload a ver 14 iso to your server , set apt get sources.list to point to the iso , then do a aptget update .
[22:29] <welsh1lad> you are also going to need to a do a kernel upgrade as well
[22:30] <john02139> hello
[22:30] <mikubuntu> hplc_: pavlos is there a way to connect them with ethernet to ethernet cord?
[22:30] <skits> hmm. I only recently jumped headfirst into headless. I might need ot garner some help from the provider here.
[22:30] <pavlos> mikubuntu, can you tether the laptop to a smartphone?
[22:30] <welsh1lad> you may also need to upload ver 12 as well and do a two part upgrade ie 10 too 12 and then 12 to 14
[22:30] <john02139> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu 14.04.2 on a mac
[22:30] <skits> i'll do some research on what you said and give it a shot. Thank you for your time
[22:31] <hplc_> mikubuntu, if network mikubuntuyes with a RJ45 crossover cable, and basic know-how of how to use ifconfig
[22:31]  * skits waves to the nice people
[22:31] <mikubuntu> pavlos my laptop, or the target machine?
[22:31] <welsh1lad> it will be much quicker if you pre-load the iso , than access the internet
[22:31] <OerHeks> john02139, did you take a look at the mactel pages?
[22:31] <OerHeks> !mac
[22:32] <pavlos> mikubuntu, the hp mini unless I did not follow the issue ... I thought the hp mini cannot connect to the net so you can d/l wifi drivers
[22:32] <john02139> not yet.
[22:32] <hplc_> anyways, time for me to sleep
[22:33] <mikubuntu> pavlos: thats correct, the mini is the target machine -- but it only has one usb port, and the live lubuntu is occupying that port
[22:33] <polishpoliceforc> anyone know of a way to change the default settings of the webcam permanently? namely the microsoft life 3000
[22:35] <emanuel> test
[22:36] <emanuel> test
[22:36] <savino_> test done
[22:37] <emanuel> heh, trying to work this irssi window thingy
[22:37] <savino_> it works
[22:37] <savino_> congrates you irssu works correct
[22:37] <emanuel> im trying to have two windows with each their own channel
[22:37] <pavlos> mikubuntu, according to the HP manual, there is one usb port on the left side and one on the right side ...http://www.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01683469.pdf
[22:38] <savino_> yeah i know its not a easy system
[22:38] <savino_> have you tree weechat as alternative
[22:38] <savino_> apt-get install weechat
[22:38] <emanuel> is it console based?
[22:38] <savino_> yes
[22:39] <mikubuntu> pavlos: omg. you're right, i thought that was an hdmi port :P
[22:39] <pavlos> mikubuntu, pages 17, 18
[22:39] <mikubuntu> pavlos: so thats a good thing, right? lol.
[22:40] <savino_> https://weechat.org/  as you like compilate this can also
[22:40] <pavlos> mikubuntu, yes, le left port takes the live usb, the right can be thethered to a smartphone, enable wifi so it can get Net. Then grab the wifi driver
[22:40] <mikubuntu> pavlos: so yes i have an android phone with a data cable
[22:41] <mikubuntu> pavlos: but it won't receive wifi until it has the driver right?
[22:42] <savino_> have you a screen splash as xfce or gnome then can you also work with a websystem    https://kiwiirc.com/
[22:42] <savino_> my idea is better you take Gnome as internet browser
[22:42] <pavlos> mikubuntu, enable wifi on android, connect to laptop, click on Network manager to connect, then you can see the Net. So far it is not using the wifi of the hp mini, just usb to adroid
[22:43] <emanuel> savino_: im using weechat and it has more info, but im still not sure it solves my problem
[22:43] <pavlos> mikubuntu, strange that wired does not work
[22:44] <mikubuntu> k, trying to download foxfi to android
[22:44] <savino_> hmm
[22:44] <emanuel> oh nvm, i got it :D
[22:44] <savino_> ok
[22:44] <savino_> good
[22:44] <emanuel> thanks
[22:44] <savino_> hugs
[22:44] <emanuel> XD
[22:45] <dubhdara> Can someone help me when i reboot me ubuntu my eth0 says it is down how do i get it from doing this all the time
[22:45] <mikubuntu> pavlos: strange doesn't begin to get it, going on the end of the 4th day messing with this thing, and every little thing seems to go wrong, starting to wonder if its haunted
[22:45] <savino_> what is you network card
[22:45] <dubhdara> realtek
[22:45] <savino_> hmm
[22:46] <savino_> normal is it most of time compatible on ubuntu
[22:46] <dubhdara> yeah usually works great
[22:46] <savino_> yeah
[22:47] <savino_> what is you desk screen
[22:47] <savino_> unity
[22:47] <matthias_> hi,I'm trying to manually compile a package using autoconf with different gcc options (-O0). where does autoconf get the default CXXFLAGS when using dpkg,..etc?
[22:47] <dubhdara> nope got the minimal install text
[22:48] <savino_> ah ok
[22:48] <dubhdara> running a mumble server on top of it
[22:48] <savino_> ow
[22:48] <savino_> i need real real think this
[22:49] <dubhdara> well i get it back up by doing a ifconfigh eth0 up
[22:49] <Seveas> matthias_: in the debian/rules file in the source package (apt-get source packagename)
[22:50] <dubhdara> and then i do ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.101
[22:50] <savino_> have you a model of you card
[22:50] <dubhdara> as local inet but it doesn't stay that way after reboot
[22:51] <dubhdara> no unfortunately not
[22:51] <savino_> range of 8000 of realtek have problems
[22:51] <dubhdara> just know the brand is realteak
[22:51] <savino_> what is you version of ubuntu
[22:51] <savino_> 13 14 15
[22:51] <dubhdara> 15.04 minimal/alt
[22:51] <savino_> hmm
[22:52] <savino_> and have you this problem with other versions of ubuntu
[22:52] <savino_> or allone with v 15
[22:52] <dubhdara> no just running the version 15 here
[22:52] <savino_> ok
[22:53] <savino_> i think you better migrate to ubuntu 14 so far is ubuntu 15 a Dev version
[22:53] <teward> savino_: 15.04 is released as 'stable'
[22:54] <teward> savino_: so you need to state your source :P
[22:54] <teward> 'stable' but not long term support
[22:54] <teward> (it's an intermediate release, yes)
[22:54] <savino_> hmm ok this can allone some things can gone wrong in versions
[22:54] <lunat1k> i use 15,04 work perferct
[22:54] <matthias_> Seveas: thx, but in the package rules file there are only 2 includes (/usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk)) and python related stuff (this is a python package))
[22:54] <dubhdara> yeah i have not any problems with 15.04
[22:54] <dubhdara> just this one network prob
[22:55] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i think theres a problem -- foxfi says i need pdanet desktop 4.0 or higher on the computer side. and i just got a call to go pick someone up, so i have to table. sorry to have bothered you guys. be back later i guess.
[22:55] <savino_> i know realtek are most of time compatible on ubuntu
[22:56] <matthias_> ah, got it. stupid me...ofc just override it...
[22:56] <dubhdara> well after i reboot and i do a ip addr
[22:56] <dubhdara> it says eth0 is state DOWN
[22:57] <dubhdara> we got to solve this down thing
[22:57] <savino_> nah have you not cable problems or so this can also give a down
[22:58] <savino_> or try reset you modem
[22:58] <savino_> and go reboot and see in ifconfig
[23:03] <dubhdara> okay i think i have found the solution
[23:04] <savino_> i am happy as it works
[23:06] <dubhdara> okay rebooting now to see if it works
[23:06] <savino_> ok
[23:07] <dubhdara> yeah it works in the /etc/network/interfaces file the eth0 lines was missing
[23:07] <dubhdara> auto eth0
[23:07] <savino_> ok
[23:07] <dubhdara> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[23:07] <savino_> i am so happy now
[23:08] <dubhdara> but they was there
[23:08] <savino_> detect fine oh i am so happy
[23:08] <dubhdara> yep its fixed i hope now
[23:08] <savino_> good
[23:08] <dubhdara> now i will try and get to the mumble server again
[23:08] <savino_> ok
[23:08] <savino_> this is a other stuff
[23:08] <savino_> not my deparment
[23:09] <savino_>  /giggles
[23:09] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: Back!
[23:11] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: So if I follow the install process you sent, what do I loose?  Noticed the process suggested installing Clonezilla, but will not install, because of the issues on this computer!
[23:12] <lessbius> I'm using wireshark to capture traffic related to chrome/flash in linux. Is there an easy way to block all other connections so that I don't have to spend a lot of time manually filtering stuff out?
[23:12] <dubhdara> well if you need to know how to set one up yell at me its hard but its fun having a mumble server
[23:13] <savino_> hmm i am a opensimulator manager
[23:13] <savino_> a virtual world
[23:13] <savino_> not a mumble hoster
[23:13] <ObrienDave> SecondLife?
[23:13] <savino_> sort of secondlife
[23:15] <savino_> i like it create things on opensimulator
[23:16] <TBotNik> Jordan_U: Clonezilla and Teamviewer are the 2 packages that will not install when 14.04 corrupts itself on an install.  I say "corrupts itself" because used the same LiveDVD on the first round of installs, but when I found all the problems have kept downloading each new version, based on patches and only the online upgrade has worked since.  That is what I ran on the work machine, that went seemlessly
[23:23] <Geo> Hi, has anyone moved cvs from one server to another? I have absolutely no experience with it, but need to get the cvs repo over to a new machine- what do I need to do beyond moving files?
[23:24] <Geo> I tried cvs -d init prior to moving files in the dir, but that only gave me an error
[23:27] <tsyd> How do I get upstart to log the stdout/stderr of my job/service?
[23:28] <tsyd> Putting `console log` in the upstart script does not log anything to /var/log/upstart
[23:29] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[23:29] <savino_> hallo
[23:29] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone know how to boot and install if the onboard memory is bad?
[23:30] <Ranger15> if you know its bad why would you want to?
[23:31] <ShapeShifter499> Ranger15: I have one ram slot I can boot off of
[23:31] <Ranger15> ShapeShifter499,  the way you say onboard, what hardware are working with?
[23:31] <ShapeShifter499> there is no bios option to disable the on board ram
[23:31] <ShapeShifter499> acer aspire one
[23:31] <ShapeShifter499> zg5 model
[23:32] <savino_> as my brains are sick need i go to a psygiater
[23:32] <Ranger15> ShapeShifter499,  so no removal of the it?
[23:33] <ShapeShifter499> Ranger15: nope
[23:33] <Ranger15> attached to the main board
[23:33] <ShapeShifter499> Ranger15: lol yes
[23:33] <savino_> ,p
[23:33] <Ranger15> Well that is sucko position to be in.
[23:34] <Ranger15> ShapeShifter499,  I dont have answer for you, maybe someone else does.
[23:36] <ex0r> Hello, im having an issue with ubuntu. I cannot log into my ubuntu system using the default 'Ubuntu' login selection. If I click on the ubuntu logo on the right corner of the login prompt and select something different, I can log in, but if I try to log in using the default ubuntu system, it takes me back to the login screen
[23:36] <ex0r> any idea why?
[23:37] <ex0r> I can log into MATE, but that's it
[23:37] <Jervac> hmm, none of my /help commands do anything...
[23:39] <welsh1lad> /leave
[23:43] <Bashing-om> exekias: Lost authoriztion to access your /home ? At the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console . Login here with username and password . Pastebin terminal command result ' ls -al | pastebinit ' to show who owns the files.
[23:44] <leafybasil> Can anyone tell me why my ~/.xinitrc is being ignored?
[23:46] <leafybasil> When used in conjunction with DWM that is!
[23:50] <skits> Thanks for the help earlier. I safely made it to 14.04.02 Now looking to hit the 14.10 mark but oddly apt-get dist-upgrade is not working after apt-get update
[23:50] <skits> anything i might be missing or overlooking?
[23:50] <Guest91308> oi
[23:51] <bazhang> skits dist-upgrade is not a version changer
[23:51] <ObrienDave> skits, do-release-upgrade
[23:51] <skits> ok, so it won't change minor versions then. I was worried the do-release-upgrade would tak me to 15.0*
[23:52] <ObrienDave> it can only do one version at a time. 14.10 next, then 15.04
[23:52] <skits> ok, thats what i did in hopes to get to 14.04 but i only needed to do it twice to get here. Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!
[23:53] <ObrienDave> 14.10 is EOL at the end of the month
[23:54] <skits> any know caveeats with the ltsserver version that would stop someone from upgrading. specifically with lamp servers or java implimentation?
[23:54] <skits> any known^
[23:57] <B0g4r7> skits, you may be stopped from upgrading unless you modify /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal.
[23:57] <skits> i think your right, just ran update twice and tried both methods to update distro and said not found :3...Good call :)
[23:58] <B0g4r7> I like to stick with the LTS releases myself.