[08:01] <ochosi> knome: ping
[08:03] <ochosi> knome: ok, to be more concrete, i improved the CSD window control look. however, the window-close icon still isn't as nice as it could be. do you still have the svg source of the icon you did for greybird's xfwm4 theme? http://i.imgur.com/Qr05GYl.png
[08:05] <ochosi> knome: and yes, we need an svg, for the current one, look in actions/symbolic in elementary-xfce
[09:48] <bluesabre> Unit193: so, about that package... any concerns about it, or does it seem sane?
[09:50] <ochosi> hey bluesabre 
[09:50] <bluesabre> hey ochosi
[09:50] <ochosi> just the guy i was looking for... :)
[09:50] <bluesabre> uh oh
[09:50] <ochosi> could you reproduce something for me in wily?
[09:50] <bluesabre> not running wily atm
[09:51] <ochosi> when tiling a CSD window to the right, i get messed up CSD button padding
[09:51] <ochosi> oh ok
[09:51] <ochosi> anyway, this is it (for reference) http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJIqqMdw.png&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH9tn-EdGpI-UjDZQSoIz84ciyXfw
[09:51] <ochosi> gah
[09:51] <ochosi> http://i.imgur.com/JIqqMdw.png
[09:51]  * ochosi shakes his angry fist at google hangouts
[09:51] <bluesabre> both worked for me
[09:52] <bluesabre> but wow
[09:52] <ochosi> in Numix, the close button is even pushed offscreen
[09:52] <bluesabre> that's special
[09:52] <ochosi> oddly enough, if i do the same thing on the left, everything is fine
[09:52] <ochosi> http://i.imgur.com/RyFDOw9.png
[09:52] <ochosi> just noticed because i was working towards improving the CSD buttons/icons
[09:53] <ochosi> also, if we decide to opt in for more apps with CSD in xubuntu, i might have to change the WM theme a bit to not make them stand out so much
[09:54] <bluesabre> the wm theme could use a refresh :)
[09:54] <bluesabre> btw, that works fine for me with gtk 3.16 in vivid
[09:55] <ochosi> oh you have 3.16?
[09:55] <ochosi> anyway, that was what i wanted you to test (wrt wily)
[09:55] <ochosi> so ok, i won't spend more time hunting this down
[09:56] <ochosi> i already have some ideas for refreshing the wm theme
[09:56] <ochosi> it'll likely only be the hover/click effects, not the icons
[09:56] <bluesabre> http://i.imgur.com/jzmnHfg.png
[09:56] <ochosi> i still like the simplicity of them
[09:57] <ochosi> heh, i love how the xfpm plugin stands out as the only correctly colored one ;)
[09:57] <ochosi> for that alone, the ubuntu indicators suuuck
[09:57] <bluesabre> :D
[10:00] <ochosi> ok, gotta go shopping
[10:00] <ochosi> bbl
[10:05] <lderan> good luck food hunting
[15:32] <ochosi> micahg: still around?
[15:32] <micahg> yes
[15:33] <ochosi> would you mind adding a tiny patch to xfpm 1.5.1 in our staging PPA?
[15:33] <ochosi> i'm generally willing to release 1.5.2 soonish, but doing that because of a one-liner seems a bit over the top
[15:33] <ochosi> however, it's a bit of a show-stopper (segfault with trayicon enabled)
[15:34] <micahg> ochosi: you might want to release 1.5.2 for the benefit of other users :)
[15:34] <ochosi> i don't think 1.5.1 is packaged anywhere yet
[15:34] <ochosi> but yeah, i will do 1.5.2 soon, i just want maybe some more bugfixes
[15:36] <micahg> ochosi: you could do a 1.5.1.1 depending on how bad of a show stopper, also, not everyone uses the packaged versions :)
[15:37] <ochosi> yeah, but those who don't use the packaged version can simply run a git pull and rebuild
[15:37] <ochosi> and meh, micro-versioning
[15:37] <micahg> I mean, they use the tarballs, not the distro versions
[15:37] <ochosi> seriously? what would the benefit of using a tarball be when you can grab git master?
[15:38] <micahg> stability of tagged versions
[15:38] <micahg> not everyone likes bleeding edge ;)
[15:39] <ochosi> yeah, but if you use tagged versions, why not use the packaged versions
[15:39] <ochosi> anyway, this isn't leading where i intended to go... :)
[15:39] <micahg> sorry, wasn't sure if you meant that packaged == tarball or packaged == distro
[15:39] <micahg> anyways, happy to upload the patch if a new release isn't forthoming
[15:40] <ochosi> yeah, i'm not sure, maybe i will do a 1.5.1.1
[15:40] <ochosi> it just isn't very xfce-typical
[15:41] <micahg> you could do a .2 if .1.1 is too awful looking :), it's relatively common to spin a new release with a small number of fixes if there's a common crash
[15:41] <ochosi> actually, i think it's not even really possible with the major/minor version division in the configure file
[15:42] <ochosi> and it would sort of break the current documentation standard
[15:42] <ochosi> so if anything, it would be 1.5.2
[15:43] <micahg> ok
[16:42] <dkessel> hmm if i have tooltip rendering issues in chrome under xubuntu, would that likely be a chrome or a xfce/xubuntu issue?
[16:51] <ochosi> dkessel: i've seen it too. chromium uses its own engine for drawing the UI, so chrome issue
[16:55] <dkessel> meh
[16:55] <ochosi> yeah, they switched over to "aurora" (i think)
[16:55] <ochosi> hence the fancy animations and stuff within chromium
[16:57] <dkessel> is the parole crash on startup on wily known?
[16:58] <dkessel> oh wait it have not updated today
[17:00] <dkessel> mkay. still present
[17:04] <dkessel> also, qt app theming in broken again. i have seen it in quassel-client, which luckily had a setting to change the theme, and am seeing it in vlc now.
[17:08] <dkessel> the icons in vlc look much better than when it was broken in vivid ;) but the menu bar has the wrong color
[17:09] <dkessel> and some menus show unchecked checkboxes that normally don't display any checkbox
[17:28] <ochosi> dkessel: yeah, those are pretty much all theming issues related to qt not applying the gtk theme
[17:29] <ochosi> and sucks that parole even crashes, seems new bugs are piling up there
[19:52] <knome> ochosi, i likely do, but i'll need to check my deksktop for that
[20:59] <ochosi> knome: ok, thanks!
[21:36] <bluesabre> evening all
[21:36] <Unit193> Howdy, bluesabre.
[21:36] <bluesabre> hiya Unit193
[21:39] <micahg> ochosi: do you still need me to upload something?
[21:39]  * micahg saw a build failure earlier
[21:42] <bluesabre> micahg: I can look into it... I know the daily has been failing to build for a few days, haven't had a chance to look until now
[21:43] <micahg> bluesabre: and sorry, I still need to look at your package as well
[21:47] <bluesabre> micahg: np
[21:56] <Unit193> bluesabre: Oh right, that thing you'd pinged.  No, didn't see it.  Link passed when I couldn't, and then I'd have had searched for it.  Also saw the note that micahg was going to review it, and he's at least 10x better than me sooo. :)
[21:56] <micahg> trying to process some backports quickly
[22:58] <bluesabre> ochosi: btw, I'm also of the opinion that a new point release is a better option