| pitti | Good morning | 04:37 |
|---|---|---|
| thumper | o/ pitti | 04:37 |
| pitti | hey thumper! | 04:38 |
| pitti | Laney: could you please verify bug 1444402 so that this can hit -updates soon? | 05:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1444402 in systemd (Ubuntu Vivid) "LXC with r/w sys and udev keeps trying to unmount bind mounts" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444402 | 05:33 |
| larsu | good morning! | 05:49 |
| pitti | good morning larsu, wie gehts? | 05:51 |
| larsu | pitti: great thanks! And you? | 05:51 |
| pitti | good, thanks! | 05:51 |
| larsu | pitti: so lightdm couldn't call ActivateSession() for me because it tries to activate the *current* session (and I was logged in via ssh) | 05:52 |
| pitti | larsu: on the phone with systemd? or what's the context? | 05:52 |
| larsu | pitti: ya | 05:52 |
| pitti | larsu: oh, so does it boot if you don't have usb attached? | 05:53 |
| larsu | pitti: got it to work after dist-upgrading and linking /sbin/init manually | 05:53 |
| pitti | ah, cool | 05:53 |
| larsu | yes, it boots fine | 05:53 |
| larsu | but no lightdm | 05:53 |
| larsu | it crashes in a loop | 05:53 |
| pitti | err, that's not what I call "fine" then :) | 05:53 |
| larsu | well, "finer" than it did before :P | 05:53 |
| pitti | but if you can at least adb/ssh in, that's a nice foot in the door | 05:54 |
| larsu | indeed | 05:54 |
| larsu | where does lightdm log to? | 05:54 |
| pitti | /var/log/lightdm/ | 05:54 |
| larsu | or shall I start it with -d in the unit? | 05:54 |
| pitti | you can try (I'm not much of an expert with debugging lightdm, I mostly just look into /var/log/lightdm/) | 05:55 |
| pitti | larsu: also look into the session logs | 05:55 |
| pitti | larsu: i. e. ~/.config/upstart/ and stuff | 05:55 |
| pitti | larsu: e. g. I had to fix bug 1451784 which had the same effect | 05:55 |
| ubot5 | bug 1451784 in ubuntu-touch-session (Ubuntu Wily) "ubuntu-touch-session fails to start under systemd" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1451784 | 05:55 |
| pitti | larsu: and there the error was in ~/.xsession-errors | 05:56 |
| larsu | pitti: I don't know much about lightdm either. It says it cannot activate a user session, so it tries a "greeter session" (whatever that is) | 05:57 |
| larsu | and fails because it can't find a configuration for that | 05:57 |
| pitti | larsu: I suppose we don't have a greeter on touch | 05:57 |
| pitti | larsu: anything in ~/.x-e? | 05:57 |
| larsu | pitti: right, I assumed so | 05:57 |
| larsu | lol... | 05:58 |
| larsu | init: unrecognized option '--user' | 05:58 |
| pitti | larsu: but that's the bug above | 05:58 |
| pitti | larsu: what's your ubuntu-touch-session version? | 05:59 |
| larsu | pitti: 0.108+15.04.20150407-0ubuntu1 | 05:59 |
| larsu | this is too old :/ | 05:59 |
| larsu | pitti: ya, that's why I was laughing | 05:59 |
| larsu | how am I not getting the new package? | 06:00 |
| pitti | install a current image? | 06:00 |
| larsu | err... this is what I thought I did | 06:04 |
| larsu | I followed https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ | 06:04 |
| pitti | larsu: Usually the "devel" channel is ancient (maybe that got fixed now) | 06:05 |
| pitti | larsu: try devel-proposed? | 06:05 |
| pitti | you want that for development anyway | 06:05 |
| larsu | BAH | 06:07 |
| larsu | ok | 06:07 |
| larsu | pitti: thanks. Why is our documentation outdated? | 06:07 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:07 |
| pitti | larsu: not sure; /me not a phone dev | 06:07 |
| pitti | larsu: anyway, I think "normal" users want a stable channel, and devs should really use devel-proposed, which updates more or less daily | 06:08 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks, ça va ? | 06:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: ça peut aller, et toi ? | 06:08 |
| pitti | didrocks: je vais bien | 06:08 |
| larsu | didrocks: morning! | 06:08 |
| didrocks | hey larsu! | 06:09 |
| larsu | pitti: fair enough. Still frustrating | 06:09 |
| larsu | didrocks: turns out my bug was because I'm on an old image (who knew -devel is old...) | 06:10 |
| larsu | pitti: thanks for your patience :) | 06:10 |
| didrocks | larsu: don't talk to me about channel namings… | 06:10 |
| didrocks | (and also out of date ubuntu-device-flash args which don't have stable parameters) | 06:10 |
| * larsu stops talking to didrocks about channel namings | 06:10 | |
| didrocks | :p | 06:10 |
| larsu | didrocks: what? They don't? | 06:10 |
| didrocks | no | 06:10 |
| didrocks | change $randomly | 06:10 |
| didrocks | of course, all automation based on it… | 06:10 |
| didrocks | but well, if you ask for stability you are said to be anti-"agile" | 06:11 |
| larsu | ah, you mean when they added the "touch" command? | 06:11 |
| didrocks | that or change --foo in --bar | 06:11 |
| didrocks | or add new --baz as being required | 06:12 |
| didrocks | like the release version now | 06:12 |
| mitya57 | attente: Sure, but there was also https://github.com/lenky0401/fcitx-qimpanel/commit/ba4369f6126a9828bb39528a43ee67ed6c1189ff | 06:18 |
| mitya57 | (after your commit) | 06:18 |
| mitya57 | And in https://github.com/lenky0401/fcitx-qimpanel/commit/a64d64a4dffae3a56b6fd5a617b6c8ffb6b97546 the ifdefs were added | 06:19 |
| mitya57 | So I am sure it's a problem (or intended behavior) of this code, not a bug in Qt. | 06:20 |
| mitya57 | Also, I have limited internet access this week, so I am slow at replying. | 06:21 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:42 |
| seb128 | bah, typeahead stopped working in gtkfileselectors :-/ | 06:42 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 06:42 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 06:42 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 06:45 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 06:45 |
| seb128 | oh, right, it's that day of the week | 07:09 |
| didrocks | yeo | 07:10 |
| didrocks | yep* | 07:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, it seems that langpacks were not changed in the overlay ppa, do you know if Lucaz worked on that? I can do it now, just don't want to dup work | 07:14 |
| pitti | seb128: I didn't get any status updates since we talked yesterday either | 07:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, k, let's wait for him then | 07:15 |
| didrocks | he told he had an issue with it, right? | 07:15 |
| seb128 | didrocks, where/when? | 07:15 |
| seb128 | I was off for tennis in the evening | 07:15 |
| didrocks | We noticed issues with our language pack generation mechanisms | 07:16 |
| didrocks | which do not seem to be working for our stable overlay PPA. | 07:16 |
| didrocks | in the landing team email | 07:16 |
| seb128 | oh, right | 07:16 |
| seb128 | that's the issue yes | 07:16 |
| seb128 | we agreed to manual patch those 4 strings translations for at least de/fr/es | 07:16 |
| seb128 | which is what I was asking about | 07:16 |
| seb128 | as a workaround | 07:16 |
| didrocks | ah ok | 07:16 |
| didrocks | so yeah, nothing more | 07:16 |
| seb128 | the issue with the overlay is that it's not translated/translatable in launchpad | 07:17 |
| seb128 | we have translations pages/templates for the ubuntu series and for trunk | 07:17 |
| seb128 | so vivid/wily/trunk | 07:17 |
| didrocks | yeah, that makes sense | 07:17 |
| seb128 | but the overlay is none of those | 07:17 |
| didrocks | ok, so only patching the .po files and reuploading | 07:17 |
| seb128 | yeah, for that one | 07:17 |
| seb128 | then we need to figure a proper way | 07:17 |
| didrocks | yep | 07:17 |
| seb128 | didrocks, on your livecd-rootfs desktop-next change, Colin noted on the review that it might makes sense to use symlinks to ubuntu-core for some of the hooks, any reason you didn't do it? | 07:59 |
| seb128 | mvo_, ^ | 07:59 |
| didrocks | seb128: I would need to find my IRC logs, there was something, one sec… | 07:59 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 08:00 |
| didrocks | the PM went on the fact that we'll probably deviate in the hooks | 08:01 |
| didrocks | like you did with removing docker for instance | 08:01 |
| didrocks | feel free to symlinks those which makes sense though | 08:01 |
| seb128 | k, thanks | 08:03 |
| Laney | morning | 08:05 |
| seb128 | hey Laney | 08:06 |
| seb128 | wie gehts? | 08:06 |
| Laney | kernel panic this morning | 08:06 |
| Laney | xps 13 fun! | 08:06 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 08:06 |
| seb128 | oh :-/ | 08:06 |
| Laney | otherwise good | 08:06 |
| didrocks | argh | 08:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks, re :p | 08:06 |
| didrocks | morning Laney :p | 08:06 |
| Laney | ;-) | 08:06 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:06 |
| didrocks | fine, yourself? | 08:06 |
| seb128 | Laney, didrocks, we got a desktop-next snappy i386 build ;-) | 08:07 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/wily/ubuntu-desktop-next/+build/29166 | 08:07 |
| seb128 | it failed on amd64 though, unsure why | 08:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: nice! | 08:07 |
| Laney | woo! | 08:07 |
| seb128 | "+ cp -ar boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-20-generic boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-20-generic.efi.signed /tmp/tmp.yiVA0lx2A0/assets/vmlinuz | 08:07 |
| seb128 | cp: target '/tmp/tmp.yiVA0lx2A0/assets/vmlinuz' is not a directory" | 08:07 |
| seb128 | now to figure out how to make an image from those tarballs | 08:07 |
| willcooke | seb128, @ image - NICE!!! | 08:10 |
| seb128 | willcooke, hey! | 08:10 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:10 |
| seb128 | willcooke, waiting on sergiusens to be online now, mvo said he probaly knows how to make an image from those files | 08:11 |
| willcooke | cool | 08:11 |
| seb128 | the current tools download the files from a server, they don't use local versions | 08:11 |
| seb128 | one way would be to publish the desktop-next files to the server, but it's not handy for local testing and bootstrap of the image | 08:12 |
| Laney | system-image server? | 08:14 |
| didrocks | it's assembling from a json file | 08:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, yes | 08:16 |
| seb128 | or whatever u-d-f uses to build the image | 08:17 |
| didrocks | but yeah, would be better to get that copied in the server file | 08:17 |
| Laney | seems that hook needs updating to take care of secure-boot stuff | 08:23 |
| Laney | somehow | 08:23 |
| seb128 | you mean? the amd64 buildlog? | 08:23 |
| Laney | ye | 08:24 |
| Laney | i386 doesn't have that | 08:24 |
| seb128 | right | 08:24 |
| Laney | and it looks like core doesn't have the signed stuff either | 08:24 |
| seb128 | https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/goget-ubuntu-touch/uefi/+merge/256869 | 08:25 |
| seb128 | is how core gets its uefi/secure boot working | 08:25 |
| Laney | maybe ask him to fix it up for us ;-) | 08:29 |
| seb128 | Laney, yeah, let's see :-) | 08:32 |
| Laney | pitti: let me see - hope that instance is still up | 08:35 |
| Laney | I have wily on the real system now | 08:35 |
| Laney | might help to enable proposed... | 08:46 |
| seb128 | speaking about the image build or something else? | 08:51 |
| Laney | no, some sru | 08:54 |
| seb128 | k | 08:59 |
| pitti | Laney: cheers! | 09:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, just as a fyi we patched/uploaded to the vivid overlay ppa the langpacks for ca/de/es/fr/it/pt | 09:26 |
| pitti | seb128: cool, thanks | 09:27 |
| seb128 | so we should be fine for the ota now | 09:27 |
| seb128 | yw! | 09:27 |
| Laney | patching the langpacks? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, in the overlay ppa yes | 09:30 |
| seb128 | you didn't follow the discussion on ci-eng yesterday I guess? | 09:30 |
| Laney | no | 09:30 |
| Laney | I think it's okay if I don't know :-) | 09:30 |
| seb128 | basically the ppa has no translations support | 09:30 |
| seb128 | translations.l.n has templates for ubuntu series and trunk | 09:30 |
| seb128 | but the ppa is random content | 09:30 |
| Laney | oh right I can see where this is going | 09:30 |
| seb128 | so langpack miss strings that are specific to it | 09:30 |
| Laney | so you miss new strings | 09:30 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:31 |
| seb128 | we had 4 new ones in dialer/messaging for that ota | 09:31 |
| seb128 | so we just distro patched those in main languages to be able to roll the ota out as planned | 09:31 |
| seb128 | still need to solve the infra issue | 09:31 |
| seb128 | like by using wily/trunk strings and merging template or something | 09:31 |
| seb128 | or changing back from a ppa to a rtm distro | 09:31 |
| seb128 | tbd | 09:31 |
| * Laney rebuilds packages for broken devhelp files | 09:41 | |
| Laney | silly gtk-doc | 09:41 |
| Laney | xnox: can you remind me where the place to set ubiquity's start page is please? | 10:20 |
| Laney | I want to get it to start straight at the slideshow | 10:21 |
| xnox | Laney: you may run the slideshow demo runner in the slideshow upstream branch. | 10:22 |
| xnox | Laney: or you can reorder the "pages" plugins. oh wait the slideshow in ubiquity is not a page, but a hidden notebook. | 10:22 |
| Laney | I need to see it as it is in ubiquity | 10:23 |
| xnox | Laney: tweak it to be not hidden. | 10:23 |
| xnox | e.g. skip to it. | 10:23 |
| * Laney twirls | 10:23 | |
| xnox | purge partman plugin, and then ubiquity becomes a dummy app =) | 10:23 |
| Laney | ok, neat, don't see the bug that I thought I did | 10:31 |
| xnox | Laney: what bug? scrollbars? | 10:32 |
| Laney | ya | 10:32 |
| xnox | Laney: they come and go, depending on the gtk changes, language, running "installer" for real, overlay scrollbars (missing, getting renamed, changing pixel size) etc. | 10:32 |
| Laney | I thought I saw them when I installed wily on this laptop the other day | 10:32 |
| Laney | but they aren't there in this vm | 10:33 |
| Laney | (Y) | 10:33 |
| xnox | Laney: i had to fix them each overlay-scrollbar and/or gtk update =( | 10:33 |
| Laney | overlay-scrollbar is gone | 10:33 |
| Laney | muhahah | 10:33 |
| xnox | well. as long as the themeing that we apply to webview is correct than it's all good. | 10:33 |
| xnox | Laney: did you drop ubiquity-dm force loading overlay-scrollbar modules then?! | 10:34 |
| Laney | not yet but that's harmless | 10:34 |
| xnox | *mostly | 10:34 |
| * Laney meows | 10:37 | |
| * ogra_ moos | 10:39 | |
| * davmor2 bah humbugs | 10:40 | |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| Laney | larsu: do you run with hidpi scaling? | 11:31 |
| Laney | GDK_SCALE=2 gedit -> the toolbar is huuuugeeeee | 11:35 |
| larsu | Laney: nope | 11:43 |
| larsu | isn't the point that it is huge? | 11:43 |
| Laney | not that huge | 11:43 |
| larsu | hm, this does look a bit too large indeed | 11:43 |
| larsu | looks like 4× | 11:44 |
| Laney | gtk_toolbar_set_icon_size (toolbar, GTK_ICON_SIZE_SMALL_TOOLBAR); makes it right | 11:44 |
| Laney | but doing this feels wrong | 11:44 |
| larsu | clearly | 11:44 |
| larsu | fonts are too large as well | 11:44 |
| Laney | the default seems to be LARGE | 11:44 |
| larsu | something is multiplying that factor twice | 11:45 |
| larsu | oh wait, fonts appear huge but seem to be twice the height from my normal font | 11:46 |
| larsu | Laney: using the slider in system settings » displays makes it look similarily huge | 11:48 |
| Laney | that sets the same scale factor | 11:48 |
| Laney | you can use the env var to just do it once | 11:48 |
| happyaron | willcooke: weekly update sent to you | 11:48 |
| willcooke | thx happyaron | 11:48 |
| larsu | Laney: not quite. Gdk can only do integer scaling, whereas the slider does floating point | 11:53 |
| Laney | only for unity | 11:53 |
| innopark | my ubuntu desktop always gets hangs up | 11:54 |
| * Laney aahs | 11:56 | |
| Laney | I played with the slider and now my mouse pointer has gone | 11:58 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| seb128 | larsu, Laney, is the unity panel title "wrongly styled" for you as well? text used to be bold and isn't anymore, unsure if that's due to new gtk | 12:05 |
| larsu | seb128: still bold for me. You mean the title of the application, right? | 12:09 |
| Laney | It isn't bold here and I don't have 3.16 on the laptop yet | 12:10 |
| seb128 | larsu, yes | 12:10 |
| seb128 | same issue in compiz titles in fact | 12:10 |
| seb128 | not only in the unity panel | 12:10 |
| seb128 | Laney, wily or vivid? | 12:11 |
| seb128 | I'm pretty sure it was bold in vivid and wily until like a week ago | 12:11 |
| larsu | compiz titles? | 12:11 |
| Laney | wily | 12:12 |
| seb128 | larsu, wm decorations | 12:14 |
| Laney | checked iso, bold vivid and not bold wily | 12:14 |
| seb128 | k | 12:14 |
| * Laney phews at gtk not being to blame :-) | 12:14 | |
| seb128 | hehe | 12:14 |
| seb128 | did we change the theme in wily? I guess not | 12:14 |
| seb128 | unity didn't change either afaik | 12:14 |
| * seb128 scratches head | 12:14 | |
| larsu | hm, maybe I should reboot? | 12:15 |
| * larsu still sees bold titles | 12:15 | |
| Laney | probably not worth everyone looking at it | 12:15 |
| seb128 | ChrisTownsend, Trevinho, ^ is that a known issue? | 12:15 |
| seb128 | larsu, maybe just restart compiz? | 12:15 |
| larsu | seb128: indeed. thanks. Now here's a question: | 12:16 |
| larsu | WHY ARE MY WINDOW TITLES NOT BOLD ANYMORE????? | 12:16 |
| Laney | when did you boot? | 12:16 |
| Laney | /log in previously | 12:16 |
| larsu | Laney: 7 days ago | 12:16 |
| seb128 | lol | 12:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, I started noticing yesterday, that issue is less than a week old | 12:17 |
| Laney | 'kay | 12:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, larsu, I had a glance to wily-changes and didn't see anything obvious, I'm not going to debug today but feel free to have a look | 12:22 |
| pitti | larsu: wow, were they bold before? I honestly can't remember | 12:25 |
| pitti | (normal font here as well) | 12:25 |
| larsu | pitti: I just restarted compiz and saw the immediate effect | 12:25 |
| ChrisTownsend | seb128: It's not a known issue to me, but I do see what you're talking about. Trevinho would probably know more though. | 12:26 |
| larsu | pitti: my outrage was mostly to troll seb128 :) | 12:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, e.g http://cdn5.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/03_in_the_windows_title_bar.png | 12:26 |
| didrocks | my precious panel! | 12:27 |
| seb128 | lol | 12:27 |
| pitti | didrocks, Laney, desrt: ooh, coming to debconf too? looking forward to it! | 12:31 |
| Laney | \o/ | 12:31 |
| Laney | did you get some email? | 12:32 |
| didrocks | same question than Laney ;) | 12:32 |
| pitti | Laney: Michelle just pointed me to the travel doc | 12:32 |
| Laney | ah | 12:32 |
| didrocks | ah, there is a travel doc :p | 12:32 |
| pitti | I was talking to her about plumbers vs. debconf conflict, and that I self-booked debconf already | 12:33 |
| Laney | going to be fun | 12:33 |
| Laney | I'm thinking about being there for some of debcamp too | 12:33 |
| pitti | I wanted to, but we'll attend a wedding on Aug 15 in Magdeburg, so I'll only arrive on Sun | 12:34 |
| Laney | there's a half week gap or so between guadec and debconf | 12:34 |
| Laney | probably won't go home for that | 12:34 |
| pitti | Laney: when is guadec? | 12:34 |
| Laney | I think 7th-12th including the hackfest days | 12:35 |
| Laney | and debcamp starts the 9th | 12:35 |
| Laney | so I'm not sure yet exactly how I will divide myself up | 12:35 |
| seb128 | didrocks, going to debconf this year? | 12:36 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, not far, has to go at least once I guess :) | 12:36 |
| seb128 | :-) | 12:36 |
| seb128 | I was pondering going as well | 12:36 |
| seb128 | but seems like my name is not on the list | 12:37 |
| seb128 | oh well, another time ;-) | 12:37 |
| Laney | it's not finalised yet | 12:37 |
| Laney | (afaik) | 12:37 |
| Laney | willcooke: get this man on the list! | 12:37 |
| Laney | ;-) | 12:37 |
| seb128 | Laney, where did you guys ask to be on the list? | 12:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ | 12:37 |
| Laney | I think there was some mail a few months ago | 12:38 |
| Laney | and I did some light nagging since | 12:38 |
| seb128 | k | 12:38 |
| Laney | basically ask $boss | 12:38 |
| seb128 | yeah, I guess :-) | 12:38 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:38 |
| === pat__ is now known as pmcgowan | ||
| didrocks | seb128: we discussed it in our last sprint as well IIRC | 12:39 |
| didrocks | Laney: we can write up something around the line: "the German in Germany" (note the non s at German) ;) | 12:40 |
| seb128 | lol | 12:40 |
| Laney | die Deutsch in Deutschland | 12:41 |
| Laney | (die?) | 12:41 |
| pitti | seb128: I also just signed up myself about a month ago, I didn't know that Canonical was sponsoring | 12:43 |
| pitti | Laney: "Der Deutsche in Deutschland" | 12:43 |
| Laney | larsu: any idea about the toolbar thing? should I file a bug? | 12:44 |
| Laney | pitti: isn't that plural? | 12:44 |
| pitti | not if it was supposed to be for "the German" (single person for seb128), I thought that was the intent? | 12:44 |
| Laney | ya | 12:44 |
| Laney | ah I get this now, thanks! | 12:45 |
| pitti | plural would be "die Deutschen" | 12:45 |
| larsu | Laney: sure | 12:45 |
| Laney | cool | 12:45 |
| didrocks | Laney is only getting half of my joke :/ | 12:45 |
| * didrocks organizes a protest then | 12:45 | |
| Laney | I got it man | 12:46 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| attente | mitya57: yeah, those commits were added to workaround the submenu problem. if you check out the tree at https://github.com/lenky0401/fcitx-qimpanel/commit/05fd858ef84da971a98d4f68b25f4bd897676b43, it still doesn't work, so we can't revert those two commits | 12:59 |
| mitya57 | attente: OK, then I'll look at it when I return to normal internet (maybe on Friday or weekend) | 13:13 |
| mitya57 | Re-added to my TODO :( | 13:13 |
| mitya57 | Err, I meant :) | 13:13 |
| attente | mitya57: ok, thanks :) | 13:14 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| larsu | desrt: this should work no: gsettings list-keys org.gnome.Terminal.Legacy.Profile:/org/gnome/terminal/legacy/profiles/b1dcc9dd-5262-4d8d-a863-c897e6d979b9/ | 13:24 |
| larsu | someone's asking in #ubuntu-devel | 13:24 |
| desrt | list-keys has no dependency on path | 13:24 |
| desrt | so i'm not sure why you'd give one | 13:24 |
| larsu | list-recursively, sorry | 13:24 |
| larsu | it shows me default values, no matter which path I pass | 13:25 |
| larsu | desrt: ^ | 13:25 |
| desrt | interesting. | 13:25 |
| desrt | that may be a bug. | 13:25 |
| larsu | ok. was thinking I might be doing something wrong | 13:25 |
| * larsu passes this info on | 13:25 | |
| jdstrand | seb128: hey, this is a total throw a patch over the wall situation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11672890/. I'm using it for dnla in rhythmbox and have no particular reason to choose 15000 (it is just high enough for me :) | 14:13 |
| jdstrand | seb128: fyi only in case you find it interesting | 14:13 |
| jdstrand | if you don't want to do anything with it, that's fine too | 14:14 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, hey, I'm not familiar with that feature, how annoying is the "requiring the user to ask for more"? | 14:16 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, could you maybe throw it on a bug in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=rhythmbox just in case upstream is interested? | 14:17 |
| jdstrand | seb128: how I experienced it was I opened a playlist. it download 1000. I could play and do whatever with those 1000 and wasn't blocked by ui. but there was a button at the bottom right that said I could download another 1000 | 14:18 |
| jdstrand | seb128: so, depending on the playlist, I might have to click it 5, 8, etc times | 14:18 |
| jdstrand | seb128: and you have to do that each time you open the playlist | 14:18 |
| sidi | Hi, I need to trace all the processes starting and exiting in my unity session from the moment Ligthdm creates the session. I get a series of weird crashes that I can-t reproduce with unity --debug and I can't identify which processes are crashing | 14:18 |
| xnox | sidi: ~/.cache/upstart & ~/.xsession-errors | 14:20 |
| xnox | should have everything | 14:20 |
| sidi | xnox, thanks. Does .cache/upstart contain all processes or only the ones that crashed? | 14:24 |
| xnox | sidi: it contains stdout/stderr of all upstart managed user processes. the rest of unmanaged things end up just in ~/.xsession-errors | 14:25 |
| sidi | Also is there anything I can do to find out which processes execve'd which ones, apart from injecting a lib that watches execve? My compiz is actually crashing on a dlopen() call so that wouldn't work well... | 14:25 |
| xnox | cause session leader is upstart, and that logs to ~/.xsession-errors as everything gets reparented to it on death. | 14:25 |
| xnox | sidi: you should look into proc_cn proc connector. That will tell you everything from the kernel =) | 14:26 |
| xnox | sidi: https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2010/07/01/reporting-all-execs/ | 14:26 |
| xnox | has a link to kees' source code, compiles with a makefile from his junk folder and runs amazing. | 14:26 |
| sidi | ah cool, thanks! | 14:26 |
| xnox | that will tell you _everything_ that execed by who and what and where. | 14:26 |
| sidi | Cool I'll make a run with that once done with .cache/upstart | 14:27 |
| xnox | sidi: mind need to tweak the mask of the events reported to get all details, cause it's a firehose that track threads et.al. | 14:27 |
| xnox | initctl status | 14:27 |
| xnox | initctl list | 14:27 |
| xnox | may help to narrow things down quickly, if managed. | 14:27 |
| jdstrand | seb128: ok, reported | 14:27 |
| sidi | one last thing, I haven't used ubuntu in a while... I see there's no compiz-dbg package, do I have a way to tell apt-get to give me a package with debugging symbols on, or should I build that myself? | 14:28 |
| xnox | sidi: google for debugsyms repository | 14:28 |
| sidi | xnox, I'm willing to spend time reading logs... I need to figure out what's going on anyway | 14:28 |
| sidi | Awesome, thanks xnox | 14:29 |
| seb128 | jdstrand, thanks! | 14:29 |
| qengho | ahem. | 15:30 |
| larsu | *cough* | 15:30 |
| * didrocks taps on the mic | 15:30 | |
| willcooke | :D | 15:30 |
| seb128 | hey | 15:31 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Weekly Meeting 2015-06-09 | 15:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jun 9 15:31:10 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:31 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:31 |
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| willcooke | Roll call: attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron(out), laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, tkamppeter, themuso (out), robert_ancell (out) | 15:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks, let the tap alone, it's not beer time | 15:31 |
| larsu | o/ | 15:31 |
| * larsu thinks about having a beer | 15:31 | |
| seb128 | lol | 15:31 |
| dgadomski | o/ | 15:31 |
| * larsu doesn't have beer at home | 15:31 | |
| * didrocks put the beer back in the fridge then | 15:31 | |
| * FJKong feel sleepy | 15:32 | |
| didrocks | puts* | 15:32 |
| larsu | lol | 15:32 |
| willcooke | #topic attente | 15:32 |
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| attente | refreshed the gtk source package with some patches to fix the build, and merged the wip/mir-unstable branch into upstream gtk | 15:32 |
| attente | spent some time debugging the fcitx-qimpanel qt5 indicator without luck, hoping mitya57 has more luck with it | 15:32 |
| attente | finished the apparmor client api changes, writing regression tests | 15:32 |
| attente | (eof) | 15:32 |
| willcooke | thanks attente | 15:33 |
| qengho | FJKong: because of beer, or because it's almost midnight for you? | 15:33 |
| willcooke | #topic desrt | 15:33 |
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| FJKong | qengho: 23:33 for me | 15:33 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski | 15:35 |
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| larsu | willcooke: desrt is excusing himself | 15:35 |
| dgadomski | hello everyone | 15:35 |
| dgadomski | * I was off for most of the last week | 15:35 |
| dgadomski | * improved and delivered patch to bug #753755 to Debian, waiting for their response, in parallel I'm running testing in VMs with different network configurations | 15:35 |
| dgadomski | * a user reported a problem with no sound after installing Vivid. It works while running Trusty LiveCD, but fails on Vivid - even with the latest available kernel. The hardware is: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02). Investigating that further. Did you hear about any | 15:35 |
| ubot5 | bug 753755 in Software Updater "upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 impossible" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/753755 | 15:35 |
| dgadomski | Did you hear about any regressions in the sound area in Vivid? | 15:36 |
| willcooke | dgadomski, dont think so, drop Luke an email to see if he knows anything though | 15:36 |
| dgadomski | thanks willcooke, that's all from me today | 15:36 |
| willcooke | thx dgadomski | 15:36 |
| willcooke | #topic didrocks | 15:37 |
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| didrocks | * Was for most of the week at SDK sprint, got synced up with the team and incoming features (for developer experience convergence mostly). | 15:37 |
| didrocks | * Reported and got some of the first SDK-related issues fixed. Here is my personal list of bugs and tagged "devexp": http://bit.ly/1FVUp2j | 15:37 |
| didrocks | * Ubuntu Make 0.8.1 release fixing Android NDK as google pages changed (bug report + test failing to proove it) | 15:37 |
| didrocks | * Reinstantiated Ubuntu Make test machines as were down due to IS breakage | 15:37 |
| didrocks | * Short week (4 days) | 15:37 |
| didrocks | . | 15:37 |
| willcooke | thx didrocks | 15:37 |
| willcooke | #topic FJKong | 15:37 |
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| FJKong | analyze crash file of sogou-qimpanel, it's about cell dict problem | 15:37 |
| FJKong | give feed back to sogou engineer, waiting for fixing | 15:37 |
| FJKong | research on "slow on first time call out IM" | 15:37 |
| FJKong | continue on "right click menu on input window" | 15:37 |
| FJKong | eof | 15:37 |
| willcooke | thx FJKong | 15:37 |
| willcooke | goodnight FJKong | 15:38 |
| willcooke | #topic happyaron | 15:38 |
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| willcooke | 1. Release fcitx 4.2.9, providing better xkb support (through | 15:38 |
| willcooke | libxkbcommon) along with other fixes | 15:38 |
| willcooke | 2. Work out the product requirement document for sogoupinyin-2.0 | 15:38 |
| willcooke | series with product manager | 15:38 |
| willcooke | 3. Working on the problem of automoc generated contents when combined with ECM | 15:38 |
| FJKong | rush to bed... | 15:38 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 15:38 |
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| Laney | • Updates: gsettings-desktop-schemas gtk-doc glib (in progress) | 15:38 |
| Laney | • Finish up gtk3.0 fo realz, upload, stuck in proposed | 15:38 |
| Laney | ∘ Fixed a load of test regressions (only one was related - a deprecation and fatal warnings) | 15:38 |
| Laney | ∘ Tied with gnome-shell, do some updates with that, blocked atm | 15:38 |
| Laney | ∘ Check that no o-s didn't make ubiquity slideshow have scrollbars (thought it had done), seems it didn't | 15:38 |
| Laney | • Rebuild some packages which were built with gtk-doc 1.23 & had broken devhelp files | 15:38 |
| Laney | • Get a hidpi laptop(!), find some bugs, fix a couple & nag about some others | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Fix up yelp headerbar-as-toolbar patch re: upstream review | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Chat about/help fix desktop-next snappy build - some code advice, some cdimage changes, some triggering of builds | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Help (more? can't remember if I did this the week before) with some robustification of boottests | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Debug system breakage which turned out to be due to new xmir, filed a bug which it seems robert_ancell fixed | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Some SRU verification and checking on test regressions for the SRU team | 15:39 |
| Laney | • Some chats about totem patch, need to upload still | 15:39 |
| Laney | FIN (no unicode ☹) | 15:39 |
| seb128 | busy week for Laney | 15:39 |
| didrocks | • Closed the front gate (thanks mailman) | 15:39 |
| willcooke | thx Laney | 15:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, what is blocking gtk atm? | 15:39 |
| Laney | demoting some shell extensions to proposed | 15:39 |
| seb128 | k | 15:39 |
| Laney | want to work on that in a minute? | 15:39 |
| seb128 | sur | 15:39 |
| seb128 | e | 15:39 |
| Laney | gnome guys don't care if they are in or not | 15:39 |
| Laney | so seems fine by me | 15:40 |
| Laney | thanks | 15:40 |
| seb128 | +1 | 15:40 |
| willcooke | #topic larsu | 15:40 |
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| larsu | hey | 15:40 |
| larsu | - overlay-scrollbars: review Laney's drop-gtk3 patch (thanks!); dropped background hacks; themed them orange | 15:40 |
| Laney | didrocks: ×6 | 15:40 |
| larsu | - started helping pitti out a bit with migrating touch to systemd | 15:40 |
| larsu | (and wasted some time debugging issues on the wrong image) | 15:40 |
| larsu | </larsu> | 15:40 |
| larsu | - prepared for the sales meeting | 15:40 |
| Laney | you should put the </ as part of your paste | 15:40 |
| larsu | why? | 15:41 |
| Laney | that came in the middle :) | 15:41 |
| larsu | oh. sorry. | 15:41 |
| * larsu curses irssi | 15:41 | |
| Laney | PARSE ERROR | 15:41 |
| willcooke | #topic qengho | 15:41 |
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| larsu | Laney: not well formed xml, but might be ok as html5 | 15:41 |
| qengho | - Cr release 43.0.2357.81 into T,U,V,W any second now. | 15:41 |
| qengho | - Flash plugin updated upstream today, but no one sent us notice beforehand. :( | 15:41 |
| qengho | - mir ozone refresh. Trying to make the ozone interface break less often. Coming along really well, for once. | 15:41 |
| qengho | ^D | 15:41 |
| willcooke | thx qengho | 15:42 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 15:42 |
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| * Laney hopes this new chromium has nice(r) hidpi chrome | 15:42 | |
| seb128 | • took some tries but got snappy to boot on my uefi config | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • debugged desktop-next snappy image build | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ updated u-s-s to not try to pull the touch system-image service on snappy systems, they conflict | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ fixed some small livecd-rootfs in the desktop-next codepath, thanks Laney for helping! | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ iterated over issues and fixes until today where we got a first working build (i386 only, amd64 having secure boot issues)! | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • u-s-s | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ fixed charge graphs rendering glitches | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ added mechanism to list panels only if a file exists, used for the update/snappy | 15:42 |
| seb128 | ∘ backported a stack of commits to the vivid branch | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • joined some discussions about convergence&settings | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • tested telephony-service build fixes to be able to confirm the silent mode bugfix from previous week | 15:42 |
| seb128 | • next: continuing fun trying to get the snappy image working, we have device/rootfs tarballs now but not yet a bootable image | 15:42 |
| seb128 | </week> | 15:42 |
| willcooke | thx seb128 | 15:42 |
| seb128 | yw! | 15:42 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 15:42 |
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| willcooke | oops | 15:42 |
| willcooke | #topic Sweet5hark | 15:42 |
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| Sweet5hark | - first packaged builds of LibreOffice 5.0~beta1 and ~beta2 on vivid | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark | - breaks on amd64 due to some l10n/helpcontent foo -- fixing that right now | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark | - beta2 isnt going to be published for public consumption, "cant move cursor" is kind of a blocker | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark | - beta3 will be there soon | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark | - some conference and affiliation-foo | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark | - push some 20 refactoring patches upstream (and broke OSX :/) | 15:43 |
| Sweet5hark | EOF | 15:43 |
| willcooke | thx Sweet5hark | 15:43 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 15:43 |
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| tkamppeter | - Synced CUPS from Debian | 15:43 |
| tkamppeter | - Added last changes of our CUPS package to Debian's GIT repository of CUPS | 15:43 |
| tkamppeter | - Made starting ippusbxd (daemon for IPP-over-USB printers) working with systemd. | 15:43 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs | 15:43 |
| willcooke | thx tkamppeter | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic TheMuso | 15:44 |
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| willcooke | * More upstream Speech Dispatcher development work, moving more code to Glib and moving to GSettings. | 15:44 |
| willcooke | * Started further discussions with Qt and Mir folks to get a11y moving forward for the unity 8 desktop again. | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic robert_ancell | 15:44 |
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| willcooke | - Updated wily to run new XMir | 15:44 |
| willcooke | - Updated Launchpad XMir bugs to be filed in correct location | 15:44 |
| willcooke | - Investigated XMir window manager options | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic Any other business | 15:44 |
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| willcooke | News: | 15:45 |
| willcooke | I will be out next week and the week after for baby related business | 15:45 |
| willcooke | Seb can you run the meetings? | 15:45 |
| seb128 | sure | 15:45 |
| willcooke | I'll probably be on email and stuff - I certainly won't be far from a computer | 15:45 |
| Laney | don't do it man | 15:46 |
| larsu | willcooke: I might not make the Friday 1:1 due to travel. Will let you know. | 15:46 |
| willcooke | larsu, sure thing, no problem | 15:46 |
| larsu | willcooke: also, go further away from a computer | 15:46 |
| larsu | ;) | 15:46 |
| didrocks | :) | 15:46 |
| willcooke | I don't know if I can do it, but I will try | 15:46 |
| larsu | it's hard. We've all been there | 15:46 |
| willcooke | How will I see pictures of cats though??? | 15:47 |
| willcooke | These are the questions no one is answering | 15:47 |
| larsu | sometimes there are animals outside which look like cat pictures | 15:47 |
| willcooke | ??? | 15:47 |
| willcooke | Hrm | 15:47 |
| willcooke | Well, I'll try it | 15:47 |
| larsu | outside is this place beyond your front door | 15:47 |
| Laney | the place through the open gate | 15:47 |
| Laney | :| | 15:47 |
| larsu | HAHA | 15:47 |
| Trevinho | seb128: titlebar text depends on gnome wm settings... | 15:47 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, so I guess a setting change in the gnome updates, thanks | 15:48 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so... Not sure if that changed (I noticed the issue, but I didn't look at the setting change yet) | 15:48 |
| Trevinho | seb128: there are two things in action there | 15:48 |
| willcooke | anything else for meeting before we wrap? | 15:48 |
| Trevinho | seb128: one is "use the same of system font", and "titlebar font" | 15:48 |
| seb128 | willcooke, don't think so | 15:49 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jun 9 15:49:09 2015 UTC. | 15:49 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-06-09-15.31.moin.txt | 15:49 |
| willcooke | thanks call | 15:49 |
| willcooke | all | 15:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: did you document what you did to get snappy to boot on your uefi config? | 15:49 |
| larsu | Trevinho: I don't think that controls whether the font is bold, though | 15:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, no, it was code fixes and they are in wily | 15:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: oh nice! | 15:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, so it's just "use the current u-d-f version" | 15:49 |
| didrocks | great news | 15:49 |
| seb128 | :-) | 15:50 |
| Laney | oh yes | 15:50 |
| Laney | it is that titlebar-uses-system-font pref | 15:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, yet another one to add to ubuntu-settings override I guess? | 15:51 |
| seb128 | I can do it if you want | 15:51 |
| Laney | if you want, I don't care either way | 15:51 |
| Laney | unbold looks good to me | 15:51 |
| larsu | indeed | 15:51 |
| larsu | setting it to false makes the title bold again | 15:51 |
| seb128 | I like bold better | 15:51 |
| larsu | I agree with seb128 | 15:51 |
| Laney | GO FOR IT! | 15:52 |
| seb128 | :-) | 15:52 |
| larsu | Laney: as of the last update, epiphany is unbearably slow | 15:53 |
| larsu | did you notice something? | 15:53 |
| Laney | update of what? | 15:53 |
| larsu | I assume webkit | 15:53 |
| larsu | but don't know for sure | 15:53 |
| Laney | no sorry | 15:53 |
| larsu | just seeing it in an epiphany web app | 15:53 |
| Laney | does it use webkit2? | 15:53 |
| Laney | actually neither version has been updated for a while | 15:54 |
| larsu | weird | 15:54 |
| Laney | epiphany itself was though | 15:54 |
| Laney | but that's not our team, more ubuntu gnome | 15:54 |
| * Laney slippery hands | 15:54 | |
| larsu | hihi | 15:55 |
| Laney | BAH | 15:56 |
| Laney | no-change rebuild of gtk -> now caught up with some random other test failures | 15:56 |
| Laney | this situation is bad | 15:56 |
| larsu | non deterministic tests? | 15:59 |
| Laney | they might be real | 15:59 |
| Laney | not caused by this though | 15:59 |
| larsu | irght | 15:59 |
| * Laney needs to go drink tea outside | 16:00 | |
| Laney | can't face this right now | 16:00 |
| Laney | back in 5 | 16:00 |
| larsu | enjoy! | 16:00 |
| Laney | "did president obama drink beer in the morning, and if he did - is it okay in bavaria? | 16:01 |
| Laney | we hear live from a bavarian beer merchant" | 16:01 |
| * Laney is looking forward to hearing this item on the radio | 16:01 | |
| larsu | haha | 16:02 |
| desrt | 3g tethering on train = slow | 16:02 |
| Laney | http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm | 16:02 |
| desrt | train's wfii = worse | 16:02 |
| Laney | ok, brb! | 16:02 |
| larsu | desrt: don't travel during meeting times ;) | 16:02 |
| Trevinho | larsu: well, depends on what font you've set as system and what as titlebar (if not system one is used for titlebar) | 16:03 |
| desrt | srsly... they use the wifi on this thing as a selling point | 16:04 |
| * desrt wants money back | 16:04 | |
| seb128 | Laney, larsu, Trevinho, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings/15.10.3 | 16:09 |
| Laney | nice | 16:21 |
| Laney | see you! | 17:04 |
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| didrocks | see you Laney | 17:08 |
| willcooke | g'night all | 19:03 |
| asterai | Hi guys, ))) | 21:33 |
| asterai | I registered on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and now i looking for a some trivial task. | 21:34 |
| asterai | My some on help me, to delegate(assignate) a task? | 21:35 |
| asterai | *May | 21:35 |
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