| bujji | i am not able to create a file using special character touch *.txt ..?? | 05:04 |
|---|---|---|
| bujji | and also same way "touch `.txt" but "touch ``.txt"--->its creating hidden file. | 05:05 |
| bujji | O/ | 05:13 |
| mapps | 1 more e then bed | 05:18 |
| mapps | ep | 05:18 |
| mapps | american oddyssey seems good | 05:18 |
| bujji | hey any one. | 05:29 |
| mapps | hi | 05:30 |
| mapps | touch file.txt doesnt work? | 05:31 |
| bujji | i can able to create a directory/file with * in empty directory.but if any files are there its not creating a file with * like "touch *" but its exit status is "0" when i type "echo $?" ..?? | 05:52 |
| bujji | any idea? | 05:53 |
| bujji | okey bye ))) | 05:59 |
| MooDoo | morning | 07:24 |
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| bashrc_ | morning | 08:06 |
| MooDoo | morning bashrc_ | 08:06 |
| diplo | Morning all | 08:19 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:19 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 davmor2 | 08:23 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 diplo | 08:23 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: dude I know you missed me but you don't have to make up greeting honest ;) | 08:24 |
| diplo | heheheh, more MooDoo :) | 08:24 |
| diplo | oh my, typos here too, morning* | 08:24 |
| MooDoo | lol | 08:26 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:29 |
| MooDoo | morning | 08:31 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo | 08:32 |
| TheGeek | mornin | 08:34 |
| ujjain | uh, remind me to drink less | 08:35 |
| ujjain | morning | 08:35 |
| TheGeek | Hmmmm, I've been at work for an hour and a half and no ones came to the office (including colleagues) and I haven't received an email since 8am... | 08:36 |
| TheGeek | strange | 08:36 |
| diplo | ujjain: On a Monday night ( school night! ) oh dear | 08:36 |
| davmor2 | ujjain: drink more....water | 08:36 |
| ujjain | I had to 500ml, | 08:37 |
| ujjain | I was in Mallorca yesterday, not working, traveling home | 08:37 |
| ujjain | still free alcohol, I spent 220 pounds on a 4 day all-inclusive | 08:37 |
| ujjain | but i regret the last drinks | 08:37 |
| foobarry | everyone always regrets the last drinks | 08:39 |
| diplo | I've had 2 stag do's and 2 weddings in the last month, I regreat ALL the alcohol, but it HAD to be done :) | 08:39 |
| foobarry | i had my half-pint of beer for the year last week | 08:40 |
| foobarry | wasn't actually the best one i could have chosen either | 08:41 |
| davmor2 | diplo: I see what you did there, you mispronounce "but I had to be pickled" | 08:41 |
| diplo | I don't really drink that much normally, but I won't let the side down when called to action :D | 08:48 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Cars Day! 😃 | 08:49 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV1_7R_3cXA | 08:54 |
| JamesTait | Oh you git, davmor2! | 08:55 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: you're welcome | 08:55 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: I guess it earwormed you :) | 08:56 |
| JamesTait | davmor2, it's OK, I'm listening to Let It Go to get rid of it. 😉 | 08:57 |
| JamesTait | https://youtu.be/L0MK7qz13bU | 08:57 |
| ujjain | diplo, what is a stag do? | 09:00 |
| ujjain | a bachelor party in UK english? | 09:00 |
| foobarry | yes | 09:00 |
| ujjain | ah cool | 09:00 |
| ujjain | 3 weeks ago I wanted to go early from the pub | 09:01 |
| ujjain | I took a half pint | 09:01 |
| ujjain | smart decision | 09:01 |
| ujjain | but after that I took a full pint | 09:01 |
| ujjain | crappy decision | 09:01 |
| ujjain | crappy friday morning | 09:01 |
| diplo | :P | 09:03 |
| diplo | The first stag do started at 4pm Friday and finished at 6pm Sunday! Oh my I'm too old for that now :) | 09:04 |
| SuperMatt | I was too old for stags when I went to my first one | 09:04 |
| SuperMatt | I was probably born 40 | 09:04 |
| foobarry | SuperMatt: don't you do dancing? | 09:05 |
| SuperMatt | I do do dancing, yes | 09:05 |
| foobarry | i am 40 | 09:06 |
| foobarry | my stag was a beer and curry | 09:06 |
| foobarry | my ideal stag is an evening of catching up with the lads playing pool etc | 09:07 |
| SuperMatt | pretty much my idea too | 09:07 |
| foobarry | when you are young you see all your mates all the time | 09:07 |
| foobarry | as age and commitments grow you cherish social time together so you really just want to catch up with them rather than do things | 09:08 |
| diplo | Both these were stag dos for people 5~ years younger than me, they still enjoy drinking heavily | 09:15 |
| diplo | And not parents :) | 09:15 |
| foobarry | i went on a stag to the tomatina festival | 09:16 |
| foobarry | one of the best things i ever did | 09:16 |
| diplo | We did canoeing down the river wye, was actually good fun.. | 09:17 |
| foobarry | new guy brought his clicky keyboard in his bag on his first day :) | 09:18 |
| bashrc_ | nice | 09:19 |
| foobarry | then installed arch | 09:20 |
| foobarry | i thought arch was just a wiki | 09:20 |
| diplo | :p | 09:20 |
| SuperMatt | hahaha | 09:20 |
| SuperMatt | it's probably the best source of linux knowledge I have ever come across | 09:20 |
| ujjain | I had a lithuanian stag last month | 09:20 |
| ujjain | friday to sunday | 09:21 |
| ujjain | was fun, we did paintball too | 09:21 |
| ujjain | drunk lithuanians were scary as fuck, paintball hurts | 09:21 |
| SuperMatt | did you do drunk paintball? | 09:21 |
| ujjain | Yep | 09:21 |
| popey | i went paintballing with south africans once, against a team of black people. that was scary | 09:21 |
| ujjain | scotch paintball | 09:21 |
| popey | one of the saffers said "hey, see any coloured, shoot em in the face!" | 09:22 |
| SuperMatt | drunk paintball seems to me like the worst idea ever | 09:22 |
| popey | oh I dunno :) | 09:22 |
| popey | painkiller :) | 09:22 |
| ujjain | well, they say russians are the scariest white people, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofx7w_7dDEc - lithuanians seemed very soviet, the paintball building was very soviet | 09:22 |
| ujjain | drunk paintball was fun, less painful | 09:22 |
| ujjain | but you have to be careful with your vizer, don't take it off unless really completely completely outside of battle zone | 09:23 |
| ujjain | I got 2 direct shots to my vizer | 09:23 |
| popey | ooh http://store.bq.com/en/ubuntu-edition-e5 | 10:01 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 10:10 |
| brobostigon | morning bigcalm | 10:13 |
| MooDoo | howdy bigcalm | 10:13 |
| * awilkins is waiting for the Ubuntu Convergophone | 10:15 | |
| zmoylan-pi | when a nokia and an androidphone love each other very much... | 10:18 |
| bigcalm | Not sure I need to spend £147 on another phone I'm not using yet | 10:49 |
| TwistedLucidity | It's enormous as well | 10:58 |
| TwistedLucidity | Was all excited for a moment, thought that was the octo-behemoth going on sale | 10:59 |
| popey | the smallest phone I own now is the zte open | 11:04 |
| popey | biggest is the mx4 | 11:04 |
| davmor2 | popey: the mx4 is huge | 11:06 |
| ne2k | are these ubuntu phones running native linux, then? i.e. not android/dalvik/art/java/bytecode/jit? does this make them faster? | 11:15 |
| popey | correct, they are linux | 11:15 |
| popey | with gnu userland stuff like bash | 11:15 |
| ne2k | popey, so you can't install android apps, then | 11:15 |
| popey | correct | 11:16 |
| popey | there is no java / dalvik / classlibs installed | 11:16 |
| ne2k | how much faster is it without the dalvik/art/java layer? | 11:16 |
| popey | hard to say, it's comparing oranges and bananas | 11:16 |
| ne2k | my understanding was that ART was pretty superoptimized now and didn't really have much performance hit | 11:17 |
| awilkins | ART has the potential to be just as fast as native code | 11:17 |
| popey | how much faster is an apple iphone without java? | 11:17 |
| popey | (is the same question) | 11:17 |
| awilkins | TBH - you can make an app suck, performance wise, on any platform | 11:17 |
| ne2k | of course | 11:17 |
| awilkins | But having a platform with fast runtime libraries helps | 11:18 |
| awilkins | Given Ubuntu is only on one line of phones I imagine the drivers for the graphics acceleration are all in place | 11:18 |
| intrbiz | popey: is ubuntu phone using the android kernel or stock kernel? | 11:19 |
| popey | we use a kernel based off the android one | 11:20 |
| popey | because we need that for the drivers (gpu / radio etc) | 11:20 |
| intrbiz | sure | 11:20 |
| davmor2 | intrbiz: this has a diagram of roughly how it works https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ | 11:49 |
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| nucc1 | awilkins: [RE: ART has the potential to be just as fast as native code]. why isn't it? | 12:23 |
| awilkins | nucc1, Well, it is native code :-) | 12:23 |
| awilkins | nucc1, Once it's compiled | 12:23 |
| nucc1 | subjectively, i'm on the verge of giving up on Android by now… largely because Android runs fine for the first week you buy it, and gets slower as it gets older | 12:23 |
| popey | I was amazed how quickly sdl apps launch on the ubuntu phone, even the mid/low end one. they start near instantly | 12:24 |
| nucc1 | and i've used pretty much every kind of device | 12:24 |
| nucc1 | my last phone was a sony xperia z3 with 3GB of RAM as per the specs. It took forever to show the running apps list. | 12:25 |
| popey | i like the design of sony phones | 12:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | it was looking up the apps you were allowed to know it was running :-) | 12:25 |
| popey | they feel comparable to apple devices in terms of 'premium' | 12:25 |
| nucc1 | girlfriend's iphone on the other hand, seemed to be able to predict what you wanted to do next and would show you the screen | 12:25 |
| popey | my wife loves her iphone and macbook pro | 12:25 |
| nucc1 | popey: yes, Sony is the Apple of everything else, in my view. | 12:25 |
| popey | yeah | 12:26 |
| popey | she loves the sony telly too :) | 12:26 |
| nucc1 | same here | 12:26 |
| nucc1 | in Tellies, nothing else comes close to a Sony. | 12:26 |
| diplo | But Sony are teh evil!!``1!11!!!1¬¬¬ | 12:26 |
| diplo | :D | 12:26 |
| nucc1 | again, i've tried a lot. Samsung continues the typical UI madness, and leave out unbelievably trivial issues. My last Panasonic could play blurays fine at ~25Mbps bitrate, but couldn't play 1080p netflix streams | 12:27 |
| nucc1 | ps, the panasonic was a home theatre :d | 12:27 |
| diplo | I *need* a new telly, just can't afford it currently, mines a Dell :) | 12:28 |
| nucc1 | The sony TV it was paird to could play media over the network at pretty much any bitrate better than the panasonic theatre. | 12:28 |
| nucc1 | generally nowadays, i don't even bother buying anything other than a Sony | 12:28 |
| nucc1 | i'm interested in checking out the Ubuntu phone, but i haven't yet seen a device that tempts me spec-wise | 12:29 |
| popey | i do love the sony telly too. emote control even has a netflix dedicated button :S | 12:29 |
| nucc1 | and it's hard to give up my chromecast | 12:29 |
| nucc1 | diplo: get a chromecast | 12:30 |
| diplo | nucc1: Only 1 hdmi slot | 12:32 |
| diplo | :/ | 12:32 |
| diplo | As I said, Old! | 12:32 |
| diplo | :P | 12:32 |
| diplo | Unless anyone knows if they work through a hdmi switcher? | 12:32 |
| nucc1 | diplo: maybe an AV-receiver then. The [ahem!] Sony STR-DN850 has 6 hdmi inputs | 12:33 |
| diplo | I always doubted it | 12:33 |
| diplo | I#ve been looking at some recently | 12:33 |
| * diplo looks at that model | 12:33 | |
| nucc1 | cost £350 when i got mine, and works quite good. The remote-control is absolute simplicity. | 12:33 |
| nucc1 | it has one bug though, if your TV supports the HDMI-ARC/CEC spec: it needs to be turned on, off and then on again to be able to control it via the TV remote | 12:34 |
| diplo | Close to the price of a TV ( well one that I could afford ) But I want one anyway, looks nice though! Decisions decisions | 12:34 |
| nucc1 | if your TV's display quality is good enough, and the screen size is good enough, in my view, the AV receiver is a better purchase | 12:35 |
| bigcalm | With dhcpd, how do I specify a subnet per interface? My googling is not good | 12:35 |
| diplo | Only issue with the telly ( apart from its probably awful on power usage ) is that it has a slightly loose hdmi slot, but that would be negated by the amp | 12:35 |
| diplo | bigcalm: Noooooooooooo can't ask actual technical questions in here!!!!! | 12:36 |
| nucc1 | the amp will cost a fair bit though, especially if you also need to buy speakers. | 12:36 |
| diplo | Got some fairly decent speaks from before | 12:36 |
| bigcalm | It could be that I have installed the wrong dhcp server. What's the recommended one? | 12:37 |
| bigcalm | Or maybe not. Using isc-dhcp-server | 12:37 |
| awilkins | OpenWRT uses dnsmasq | 12:38 |
| awilkins | and odhcps | 12:38 |
| awilkins | and odhcpd | 12:38 |
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| shauno | seems Disk Utility got all kinds of pretty :) | 12:55 |
| diddledan | ooh? | 12:56 |
| shauno | oops, wrong one | 12:56 |
| diddledan | ? | 12:56 |
| shauno | sorry, didn't mean that to come here. I have the same screen(1) opened on two machines, and keep forgetting they're the same thing | 12:57 |
| diddledan | aah. so disk utility prettyness. pic or it didn't happen :-p | 12:58 |
| shauno | http://imgur.com/a/4XC2N it happened | 13:00 |
| shauno | (the pie chart widget is terrible though. looks good, doesn't act good) | 13:01 |
| SuperMatt | can't really see the point of a disk utility being that pretty, since it's more or less a "use once and forget about it" tool | 13:04 |
| shauno | I think it's more an overhaul because the logical/physical volume stuff wasn't there before | 13:05 |
| SuperMatt | sure, that's important, but it doesn't need to be quite so fluffy | 13:06 |
| shauno | since they're starting to use logical volumes (think lvm) for more and more things, they had to make an appearance | 13:06 |
| shauno | sure, but if you're reworking it anyway, there's no harm re-working it to 2015 standards rather than 2002 :) | 13:06 |
| awilkins | I'd like to see a LUKS-on-LVM-with-dm-cache install config for | 13:08 |
| awilkins | Ubiquity | 13:08 |
| awilkins | See : http://askubuntu.com/questions/620480/how-to-install-ubuntu-with-both-disk-encryption-and-ssd-caching | 13:09 |
| bigcalm | My dhcp server isn't serving on eth2 or eth3 :( | 13:34 |
| MooDoo | bigcalm: rubbish | 13:55 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: then you set it up wrong :P | 13:58 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: it's ok he's going to tell us it's service on eth0 or eth1 instead ;) | 14:00 |
| davmor2 | just for fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrIqSlt9PXg | 14:02 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: love this one too :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL8JEEt2RxI | 14:16 |
| ujjain | how do I see what I use in mysql? utf-8 etc... I want to check it on a table | 15:31 |
| ujjain | found it | 15:37 |
| ujjain | it was obviously SELECT TABLE_CATALOG, TABLE_SCHEMA, TABLE_NAME, COLUMN_NAME, COLLATION_NAME | 15:37 |
| ujjain | FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.COLUMNS, who would forget | 15:37 |
| ujjain | show create table only showed default charset | 15:38 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: for dhcp you need to specify the interfaces to bind on, /etc/default/dhcpd probably | 16:26 |
| bigcalm | proliant ~ $ greproliant ~ $ grep -i interfaces= /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server | 16:27 |
| bigcalm | INTERFACES="eth2 eth3" | 16:28 |
| bigcalm | Gah | 16:28 |
| bigcalm | p -i interfaces= /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server | 16:28 |
| bigcalm | INTERFACES="eth2 eth3" | 16:28 |
| bigcalm | Why is my mouse registering double wheel clicks? | 16:28 |
| bigcalm | proliant ~ $ grep -i interfaces= /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server | 16:28 |
| bigcalm | INTERFACES="eth2 eth3" | 16:28 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: you restarted after editing said file? | 16:28 |
| bigcalm | Yep | 16:29 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: want commandline shows in ps aux? | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | Is there a way to check the config is correct? | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | dhcpd 31275 0.0 0.0 19636 6484 ? Ss 17:08 0:00 dhcpd -user dhcpd -group dhcpd -f -q -4 -pf /run/dhcp-server/dhcpd.pid -cf /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf eth2 eth3 | 16:29 |
| bigcalm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11675413/ | 16:30 |
| bigcalm | That's dhcpd.conf | 16:30 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: what does the following give? : netstat -nlup | grep dhcpd | 16:32 |
| bigcalm | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11675498/ | 16:32 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: do you have a firewall running? | 16:34 |
| bigcalm | Not on the microserver, no | 16:34 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: what is in the dhcpd logs? | 16:35 |
| bigcalm | I can't find them! | 16:35 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: mixed into the general syslog? | 16:38 |
| bigcalm | Looks like it | 16:39 |
| bigcalm | Jun 9 17:39:47 proliant dhcpd: Wrote 2 leases to leases file. | 16:40 |
| bigcalm | Nothing else appearing in syslog | 16:40 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: sounds promising, what is in /var/lib/dhcp/db/dhcpd.leases | 16:41 |
| bigcalm | Ooo | 16:41 |
| bigcalm | That's interesting | 16:41 |
| bigcalm | Jun 9 17:41:33 proliant dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.211 from e0:db:55:bf:e6:1a via eth2: wrong network. | 16:42 |
| bigcalm | Jun 9 17:41:47 proliant dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.80.100 to e0:db:55:bf:e6:1a (iain-laptop) via eth2 | 16:42 |
| bigcalm | But the laptop is not accepting it | 16:42 |
| bigcalm | Know how to clear out the dhcp lease on the client side? | 16:43 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: remove the client lease: /var/lib/dhcpcd/... or /var/lib/dhclient/... and restart networking maybe? is it NetworkManager/ | 16:46 |
| bigcalm | What the heck? | 16:49 |
| bigcalm | wlan0 has taken a lease of 192.168.90.103 | 16:49 |
| bigcalm | wlan0 should have used 192.168.1.0/24 | 16:49 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: how is your laptop connected to eth2 / eth3 ? | 16:52 |
| bigcalm | intrbiz: via a dumb switch to eth2 on the microserver. Nothing else is plugged into the dumb switch | 16:53 |
| bigcalm | Finally! | 16:53 |
| bigcalm | I removed the leases and resorted to a reboot | 16:53 |
| bigcalm | Laptop now has .80.100 | 16:53 |
| intrbiz | cool | 16:53 |
| bigcalm | Wifi should be on .1.x though :( | 16:54 |
| intrbiz | somehow got wifi connected to eth2 / 3 | 16:54 |
| intrbiz | ? | 16:54 |
| bigcalm | eth1 is connected to the wifi router | 16:54 |
| bigcalm | Looks like the wifi router is looking for any local dhcp server | 16:55 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: dhcp is broadcast, so the first server to respond on the ethernet domain wins | 16:55 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: but if dhcpd is only listening on eth2+3 that shouldn't be the case | 16:56 |
| bigcalm | Indeed | 16:56 |
| bigcalm | I've plugged eth2 on the microserver and the laptop back into the managed switch to see if port grouping will work now | 16:57 |
| intrbiz | bigcalm: listening on '0.0.0.0:67' does suggest your dhcp server might be listening on all interfaces | 16:57 |
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| SuprEngr_mobile | please ignore this (testing Android setup) | 18:47 |
| SuperEngineer | [whoopee, got the android app setup first time] | 18:51 |
| bujji | why umask is having default permissions for files is 666 for directories 777... | 20:07 |
| shauno | usually it wouldn't. they're not sensible defaults. | 20:16 |
| shauno | 644 for files and 755 for directories is more typical | 20:17 |
| daftykins | shauno: did you work out that 10.11 permissions hassle? | 20:17 |
| shauno | yeah. still not happy with it, but there is a switch for it (an arguement to the kernel at boot) | 20:17 |
| daftykins | ugh nasty | 20:17 |
| daftykins | so they're properly locking down even root writing to / ? | 20:18 |
| shauno | pretty much | 20:18 |
| daftykins | crazy | 20:18 |
| shauno | sandbox roles are a lot like SElinux roles. acl that go way past unix permissions | 20:18 |
| shauno | which used to translate to "you can lock it down pretty good if you want to". it now defaults to such a scenario. | 20:19 |
| shauno | apparently there is a proper switch for it in the recovery system, the same place you set firmware passwords and such. but that image current panics on boot for me | 20:21 |
| daftykins | oh you can actually password lock boot via that recovery thing? | 20:22 |
| shauno | yeah. in the Utilities menu in recovery there's a tool to put a password in EFI | 20:22 |
| shauno | it doesn't prevent boot, it just prevents any boot-time options (booting from other disks, etc) | 20:23 |
| daftykins | ah yeah | 20:23 |
| shauno | so, eg, you can't boot the recovery image itself without my efi password | 20:23 |
| daftykins | that could be handy, though the client with macs is giving hers up soon | 20:23 |
| daftykins | she doesn't like them XD | 20:23 |
| daftykins | ah yeah | 20:23 |
| shauno | aaanyway. I was just exceptionally grumpy because the previous version (10.10) had a bug in the installer that freaked out if there was too many files in /usr/local | 20:23 |
| shauno | so I thought I'd be clever and move mine out the way before I upgraded, expecting a repeat. so this new "security" meant I couldn't put it back lol | 20:24 |
| daftykins | does that path even normally exist on a mac? | 20:24 |
| shauno | yes | 20:24 |
| daftykins | ah ok | 20:24 |
| shauno | /usr/local and /opt are the two whitelisted locations for this "rootless" stuff | 20:24 |
| daftykins | i never did get directory structure :> | 20:26 |
| shauno | well, these are the same as any other OS :) | 20:26 |
| daftykins | yeah i mean on Loonix in general | 20:26 |
| daftykins | right, gotta reboot my host for patch tuesday :) | 20:27 |
| daftykins | biab | 20:27 |
| shauno | and I gotta get out on me bike before it gets dark. adios. | 20:27 |
| daftykins | enjoy! | 20:28 |
| knightwise | you peeps :-)µ | 20:56 |
| popey | you | 21:09 |
| daftykins | mu | 21:10 |
| diddledan | daftykins: "host"? | 21:11 |
| daftykins | i IRC from a VM | 21:12 |
| diddledan | hyper-v? | 21:12 |
| daftykins | oh dear lord no, not that tosh | 21:12 |
| daftykins | :> | 21:12 |
| diddledan | o_O | 21:12 |
| diddledan | just wondering how patch tuesday affects you unless your host is a windows pc | 21:13 |
| daftykins | correct | 21:14 |
| daftykins | amusingly i have a Linux VM atop my Windows file server | 21:15 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:15 |
| diddledan | what virtualiser do you use then? | 21:15 |
| daftykins | however if it were the other way around, i'd have way more reboots for the constant ubuntu kernel updates | 21:15 |
| daftykins | vmware ws | 21:15 |
| diddledan | hmm | 21:15 |
| intrbiz | daftykins: you'll be wanting to update then: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/09/vmware_patches_dos_and_code_execution_flaws/ | 21:18 |
| daftykins | thanks, it's about as far from mission critical as you can get though :D | 21:21 |
| shauno | they say smoking kills. I think it's the hills. hills kill. | 22:28 |
| diddledan | hills kill smokers | 22:33 |
| daftykins | ^ | 22:34 |
| daftykins | with me cycling everywhere i avoid anything lungs related so i don't get the hassle from it | 22:35 |
| daftykins | can be really nasty | 22:35 |
| diddledan | i get those problems without the smoking tho | 22:35 |
| shauno | I could nap now. that was fun | 22:38 |
| daftykins | diddledan: eh like coughing issues? | 22:44 |
| daftykins | shauno: got a little road-bike? doing many miles? | 22:45 |
| shauno | nah, got a nice childish mountain bike | 22:45 |
| shauno | completely pointless for galway's lack of mountains, but all the 'proper' ones look silly | 22:46 |
| ineedhelp | hey guys, this doesnt really relate to ubuntu but how can i remove a object from a picutre with the background disppearing | 22:47 |
| daftykins | ah s'all good, all i have are mountain bikes | 22:47 |
| daftykins | my higher end one needs the drivetrain replaced atm | 22:47 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ixap3kddvynw452/IMG_20130614_025657.jpg?dl=0 | 22:48 |
| shauno | guy I work with got a nice expensive .. hybrid? cross .. something | 22:48 |
| shauno | it looks nifty, but I can't help thinking it's the kinda thing that'd end up in lycra. | 22:48 |
| ineedhelp | i need to remove this white box from the overpicture with the numbers dispearing. https://www.dropbox.com/s/fc7f4nvx0wq2ehu/Capture.PNG?dl=0 | 22:48 |
| ineedhelp | i meant without | 22:49 |
| ineedhelp | can photoshop or gimz do it | 22:49 |
| daftykins | shauno: ah the all the gear and no idea types are so big now | 22:50 |
| daftykins | friend of my dads' son drops several grand into just wheel rims ¬_¬ | 22:51 |
| daftykins | the kind of roadies that are so _word here_ that they avoid the cycle lanes and stay on the road to get their times :P | 22:51 |
| * daftykins shakes his head | 22:51 | |
| shauno | I honestly don't know about that pic. you don't have much detail remaining behind the white box, and zero chance of recovering anything behind those black borders | 22:51 |
| shauno | the best I could think of would be to see how far you can push the contrast in that area before it starts looking stupid, and see what comes out of it | 22:52 |
| ineedhelp | should program can i use | 22:52 |
| ineedhelp | what* program should i use | 22:53 |
| ineedhelp | paint? | 22:53 |
| shauno | there I'm less useful. everything I'm used to is on the mac, so kinda chocolate fireguard | 22:54 |
| shauno | just trying to suggest that being white on a white background, it's not the white that needs fixing. it's the text needs darkening | 22:54 |
| ineedhelp | mate, you could be my hero if this works out!!!!!! | 22:55 |
| shauno | either way, you still have the issue that what's behind the black borders is basically up to your imagination. not even daz gonna fix those. | 22:55 |
| ineedhelp | oh crap... didnt notice the numbers behind the black lines | 22:57 |
| ineedhelp | .... so i download demo photoshop, get the dark text darker right | 22:59 |
| shauno | even gimp should do that. look for contrast, it's usually an icon that looks like a moon half black half white, yank it around and see what happens | 23:01 |
| ineedhelp | no paint | 23:01 |
| shauno | it's been a good 20 years since I've used paint for anything more than pasting screenshots, so couldn't guess what it's capable of these days | 23:02 |
| diddledan | shauno: nothing new methinks | 23:03 |
| ineedhelp | thanks shauno, i be back. Sky is really slow, it taking over 2 hours to download a 82 MB!!!!! | 23:03 |
| shauno | well, I did notice it can save png now, that's a good start :) | 23:04 |
| shauno | and fits well with my "why doesn't windows save screenshots as files" workflow | 23:04 |
| shauno | I do think I need to buy some bike bits though :( | 23:07 |
| intrbiz | wish Java supported heredocs :( | 23:07 |
| shauno | one of my pedals keeps falling off .. the whole arm bit that hangs off the axle | 23:07 |
| shauno | inside that arm, and the bit that it's meant to go onto, are both chewed to hell | 23:07 |
| shauno | (is it called an axle if there's no wheel? just a crank-shaft of some sort? I assume these things have names ..) | 23:09 |
| intrbiz | crank merely means a bend in a shaft | 23:12 |
| intrbiz | wheels rotate on an axle | 23:13 |
| shauno | hm. that could be what the pedals live on though? I mean it's 5 different parts, but functionally it's a bent shaft | 23:13 |
| intrbiz | pedals are attached to a cranked shaft | 23:14 |
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