[00:02] <RAOF> Prf_Jakob: I think you might need the alternate installer for that.
[00:02] <Prf_Jakob> Upstart to the rescue!
[00:03] <Prf_Jakob> init=/sbin/upstart text did the trick
[00:03] <RAOF> Heh.
[00:03] <RAOF> I don't think you'll be able to *install* from there. Unless this is a precursor to installing some extra driver and then bringing up X :)
[00:04] <Prf_Jakob> Well Ubuntu 15.04 fails to boot on my MacBooPro5,1
[00:04] <Prf_Jakob> X fails to start*
[00:05] <RAOF> Sigh.
[00:05] <RAOF> How do they manage to make so many revision-specific problems?
[00:07] <Prf_Jakob> Oth, X now works perfectly with nouveau on my MacBookAir3,1.
[00:07] <RAOF> And I've just been at a sprint where at least two people had two different MBP revisions that worked fine.
[00:07] <Prf_Jakob> Both Mac's use Nvidia GPU's booting under EFI.
[00:08] <Prf_Jakob> The MBP is one of those dual GPU lappys with two nVidia chips.
[00:08] <RAOF> Ah, *that* vintage.
[00:09] <RAOF> I'm fairly sure that there has been an Ubuntu release where they worked :/
[00:09] <Prf_Jakob> (Even OSX can't switch between without restarting the GUI)
[00:09] <Prf_Jakob> Yeah (Can't remember if I had to use blobs tho)
[00:10] <RAOF> Woot! 15.04 successfully brings up this dual-AMD laptop, *and* doesn't panic when it decides to turn one of the GPUs off!
[00:12] <Prf_Jakob> Always something
[00:12] <Prf_Jakob> Installing nvidia current on the USB disk.
[00:13] <Prf_Jakob> Lets see if X starts then
[00:32] <Prf_Jakob> Oh right, wont start with nouveau module loaded.
[00:32] <Prf_Jakob> I will look into this some more tomorrow, do you guys want a bug report on this?
[00:33] <RAOF> Yes, please.
[00:33] <RAOF> But, obviously, no promises :/
[00:37] <Prf_Jakob> Fair enough :)
[08:11] <alkisg> Hi, in Ubuntu 12.04.1, the manpage of xprop mentions that it does support "u" (unicode), but when I  try it, it says "bad format" and I have to use "s" instead. In 12.04.5 (newest xorg) it's supported.
[08:12] <alkisg> apt-get source x11-utils etc => the code does have support for '8u' there
[08:12] <alkisg> Would that be a bug in xprop that needs some SRU?
[08:55] <alkisg> Yup, it looks like "case 'u'" is missing from the function Set_Property(), while it's there in all the rest of the code
[09:04] <alkisg> https://sources.debian.net/src/x11-utils/7.7%2B3/xprop/ChangeLog/ ==> commit 0d069c0edae83f70ac10fab1a3c04d8197e277c4
[09:04] <alkisg> Enable setting property of type UTF8_STRING.          Fix "bad format character: u" error for format '8u', e.g.:         xprop -root -f _NET_WM_NAME 8u -set _NET_WM_NAME LG3D
[09:05] <alkisg> Would it be easy to SRU that to 12.04.1 (x11-utils=7.6+4)? 
[09:26] <alkisg> The upstream commit is at http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/xprop/commit/?id=0d069c0edae83f70ac10fab1a3c04d8197e277c4
[14:27] <tseliot> work_alkisg: it would be a standard SRU. Feel free to file a bug report against that package (describe the problem and how to reproduce it), and I'll be happy to include the change for you (please ping me when you're done)