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barrydkMorning everyone05:17
Jacques_StryMorning05:20
mazalMorning everyone06:08
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:31
mazalMorning ThatGraemeGuy06:37
magespawngood morning06:37
mazalmorning magespawn06:41
magespawnhey mazal, is the oom on load shedding?06:42
mazalPorbably06:42
mazalI dunno06:42
ThatGraemeGuyno load shedding at the moment06:42
mazalThese days they only load shed from 4pm when everyone is at home to annoy them then06:42
magespawnmaybe something specific to him then06:43
magespawnmight be they are working on making the connection faster06:44
inetprogood mornings06:46
Maazinetpro: By the way, Cryterion on freenode told me "tell inetpro need help with gnupg2 upgrade." 9 hours, 35 minutes and 18 seconds ago06:46
inetproai!06:46
* Jacques_Stry waves06:50
mazalMorning inetpro , Jacques_Stry06:52
Kilosmorning all07:36
mazalmore oom07:47
mazalEskom of Telkom ?07:47
Kilosekke07:48
mazalIets gebreek ?07:48
Kiloswou nog 10 minute warm kry, toe word dit n paar uur07:48
mazallol07:48
Kiloshehe07:48
Jacques_StryMore oom Kilos :)07:49
Kilosmore Jacques_Stry  welkom terug07:49
Jacques_StryDankie07:49
Jacques_StrySkuus was so lank weg07:50
Kiloswas jy weer op vakansie07:50
Jacques_StryNee, net rof aan die gang07:50
Jacques_StryWas amper nooit op kantoor07:50
Kilosai! lank weg is nie ernsrig nie, nie terug kom nie is baie ernstig07:51
Kilossjoe07:51
magespawnhi Kilos07:52
Kiloshi magespawn  07:52
magespawnthings must be cold up there now07:52
Kiloseina07:52
Kilosice in outside water still nou07:52
Kilosnow07:52
Jacques_Stry>.<07:56
Kilosand mtn adverts dont sing come on summer come on07:56
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  inetpro  TinuvaMac  nlsthzn  aquarat  alphad  barrydk  07:57
Kilossjoe07:57
Kiloswhen im early i cant greet as peeps arrive07:58
Kiloscan07:58
ThatGraemeGuyhallo oom08:04
Kilosyou too08:04
Kilossjoe08:04
Kiloshi Cryterion  08:09
CryterionMorning08:10
mazalMorning Cryterion08:13
pieter2627hi all08:16
Kiloshi pieter2627  08:16
pieter2627hou gaan dit oom?08:17
mazalHi pieter262708:17
Kilosanders as koud goed dankie en jy?08:17
pieter2627anders as bietjie warm :p, baie goed dankie08:19
Kiloslol08:19
* Cryterion lights a fire and burns himself08:36
Kilosai!08:36
Kilosmorning superfly  08:53
Kiloshi drussell  09:01
superflyohi09:01
mazalMorning superfly09:06
superflyhi mazal09:16
soliditymôre/middag almal10:02
Jacques_Stryo/10:02
Kiloshi solidity  10:03
Kiloswb magespaw2  10:06
drussellKilos: hey! Happy Tuesday!10:06
Kiloslol10:06
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magespawnhey Kilos10:09
magespawndid you see my last question to you?10:09
Kilosno magespawn  sorry10:10
Kiloswhen?10:10
Kilosoh about the cold10:11
Kilosyes i answered that one10:11
magespawnKilos was it you who gave me instructions on how to solder?10:12
Kilosoh yes10:12
Kilosyou forgot?10:12
Kiloshow to solder i mean magespawn  10:13
magespawnno progressing well thanks10:13
Kilosgood10:13
magespawnthanks for the help10:15
Kilosyou welcome magespawn  10:15
magespawni bought myself a gas powered soldering to replace the old one i had inherited10:16
Kilosits all about getting everything to the right temp then the solder flows10:16
magespawnso i see10:37
MaNIand having steady hands :/10:42
Kiloslol ya that too10:42
SDCDevhey Kilos10:43
Kilosand good eyes10:43
Kiloshi SDCDev  howsit10:43
MaNIused to be much better at it as a kid, big hands suck :p10:43
SDCDevgood thanks and you?10:43
Kilosgood ty10:43
Kilosi used to be much better as a grown up10:43
Kilosnot a ballie10:43
MaNIhehe10:44
magespawni want to get one of those maginifying glasses with the clips10:44
Kilossoldered millions of tag blocks in post office exchange buildings10:44
Kilosmaybe not millions but felt like it at the time10:45
MaNImy dad used to use me as child labour for all his circuits, now I know why doing it as an adult is tough :p10:47
Kiloshahaha10:47
Kilosmagespawn  the soldering stations you get are the best for fine work10:48
Kilosjust expensive10:48
Kilosmy wellerhas blown its element after like 30 years and they about R800 now10:49
magespawnthat is not bad usage though10:51
Kilosno very good machines but they must have cheaper ones now10:52
magespawnsometimes it is better to go expensive10:53
Kiloshttp://www.amazon.com/Velleman-VTSS5U-Low-Cost-Soldering-150-480°C/dp/B000I40HFQ10:53
Kiloscompared to http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/weller/pricelist.htm#Soldering_Stations_10:55
Kilosi go catch some UV's10:55
MaNII should get myself something more modern10:56
MaNIstill using my dads old weller, thing must have antique value by now10:59
Kiloswonderful soldering irons those11:04
ThatGraemeGuyo_O11:05
ThatGraemeGuyyes get yourself something more modern, i'll take the pesky weller off your hands11:05
Kilosrofl11:05
Kilosi thought of saying that11:05
Kilosbut when peeps start talking about antique value i shy away11:06
ThatGraemeGuyeish11:06
ThatGraemeGuykids these days11:06
Kilossaw a cb 500 4 for 100k11:06
ThatGraemeGuyhaha11:06
Kilosthey were one k brand new back then11:07
ThatGraemeGuyphew11:07
ThatGraemeGuyI stay away from bikes11:07
Kilospeeps are mad11:08
ThatGraemeGuyi will end up upside down if i know myself11:08
Kiloslol11:08
Kilosi lived on bikes from 14 years old11:08
Kilosbuilt my first one with a lawnmower engine11:08
Kilosused to zoom around the fowl runs and the rest of the yard11:09
Kilosmy dad tried it and went through the fowl run11:09
Jacques_Strylol11:09
Kilosthen i was the baddy for not putting brakes on11:10
Kilosonly had 2 speeds, full and stop11:11
ThatGraemeGuysounds like my son11:11
Kiloshaha11:12
Kilosi go eat11:12
KilosThatGraemeGuy  encourage your son, just teach him the right way11:44
smileKilos: hi ;)11:46
Kiloshi smile  how are you lad?11:47
smilegood ;)11:47
Kiloshi SubOracle  you must say something now and again11:55
Kiloshi FeyBart  welcome to ubuntu-za11:56
Kilosfirst time here?11:56
Kilossomewhere i remember a bart11:56
Kilosmaybe simpson11:56
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MaNIhttp://jumi.lut.fi/elko/kuvat/weller.jpg <- like that12:21
Kilosyip thats them12:23
Kilosyou get different size tips you can use too12:23
MaNIyeah, I don't know what happened to the tips though can't find them, must raid my moms garage again next time I'm up in jhb they must be somewhere12:24
Kiloslol best irons every made imo12:24
MaNIgot a little red weller with no base as well12:24
Kilosperfect for pc board work12:24
MaNIand the gun somewhere12:25
MaNIbut I've never really needed the gun12:25
Kilosi dont know the gun, what is that12:26
Kilosand the red one with no base?12:26
Kilosyou mean its the pencil thing without base12:26
MaNIhttp://www.stevenjohnson.com/soldering/pics/weller-8200n.jpg12:26
Kilosoh ya thats for heavier jobs12:27
MaNIif only all things lasted as well as these12:28
Kilosif you want to sell the station how much would you want for it?12:28
Kilosi rplaced my base with a cheaper one when it was about 5 years old but the element in the pencil only gave up last year12:29
Kilosi still have 3 different size tips as well12:30
XethronGreetings everyone!12:30
Kiloshi Xethron  12:31
MaNIheh don't know if I would actually sell it lots of sentimental value :p and it is good enough for the rare amount of soldering I do12:31
Kilosyeah it should last your lifetime if used only now and again12:31
MaNIwant to get back into messing with electronics a bit more if I ever  manage to free up some time12:31
Kilostoday you can buy everything ready made12:32
Kilosall mass produced and soldered the whole board at once12:33
MaNIyeah, no fun :p12:33
Kiloslol12:33
MaNIand everything so small/compact its difficult to even replace a small blown component without doing more damage12:34
Kilosyip12:34
MaNIthat solder they use is a pain to get off as well12:34
Kilosyeah they put some protective coating on it12:35
Kilosbattle to get it to melt12:35
Kilosi scrape it off then soldering is easier12:35
Kilosbut hard with these many pin chips12:36
Kilospc board design and manufacture has advanced plenty12:36
MaNIits crazy how far we have advanced12:36
mazalBye everyone , enjoy your evening , God bless12:37
Kiloscheers mazal  12:37
Kilosbe good12:37
mazalWill try ;)12:37
MaNII remember when eeproms were an amazing new thing12:38
Kiloslol12:38
MaNImy dad got some through the uni, it was like state of the art shit12:38
Kilosso you arent a youngster12:38
MaNInow you have people buyying raspberry pi's just in case they have a use for them, heh12:39
Kilosrofl12:39
Xethronlol12:40
XethronI was thinking of doing that12:40
XethronI actually have a mini project I want to start on a pi or arduino12:40
XethronJust for fun of course :P12:40
magespawni thought that was what they where made for12:41
Kiloslol12:41
XethronBut create a control console for our gate, that monitors battery level, allows opening the gate via internet, email reports on problems (like gate not closing), etc :D12:41
MaNIhehe, not saying its a bad thing it's great, just such a leap forward in only a decade or two :p12:41
XethronMy only problem is communicating with the remotes... Need a way to grab that signal...12:42
Kilosask nuvolari  he had one working with a camera on his helicopter12:45
MaNIhave the remotes connect to the internet via 3g :p 12:45
Xethronlol12:45
Xethron"Can someone open the gate for me, my remote is out of airtime..."12:45
MaNIhaha12:46
Kiloslol12:46
XethronBiggest problem with all this new stuff, is we don't have enough people to program them.12:46
XethronEveryone's looking for developers and no one seems to be finding the right guys...12:46
MaNII just don't like the throw away mentality thats come with it, used to be if your fridge broke the repair guy would just quickly replace a capacitor on it or whatever, that culture is gone now the repair guy is some drone who just orders you a whole new controller board from taiwan and you sit and wait for two weeks because of no stock12:48
Tinuvadejavu12:51
magespawnMaNI: with the 3d printing revolution we be able to turn that around12:54
magespawnsomebodies printer broke, and i said let me see if we can fix it, they were a bit surprised at that12:55
Kiloslol12:55
Kilospeeps dont fix things anymore12:55
MaNIheh, 3d printing we will see, some of the experimental 3d circuitry printing stuff looks nifty :p13:01
Kilosai!13:06
Kilosmodem decided to disconnect13:07
Kilosso superfly  members are yourself and maia in capetown and me in ptown right?13:08
superflyIs Maia an Ubuntu member?13:09
Kilosothers are state side13:09
Kilosyes she is still out frist contact person i think13:09
Kilosoh my13:10
Kilosyes man she has an ubuntu.com addy13:10
Kilosand drubin methinks13:10
Kilosthey both in the cape13:10
superflyYes, drubin is an Ubuntu member13:11
superflyKilos: hmm, you could be right. maiatoday has quite the wiki page13:12
superflyEish, I even wrote a testimonial13:13
superflytold you... my memory is going13:13
Kilosoh no man you gotta remember for me too13:14
magespawnit happens when you have so much on your mind13:19
Kiloslol13:20
Kilosya fly spread a bit thin13:21
magespawnhome time chat later14:07
Kiloswb Wraz  14:13
superflygood night!14:32
Kilosuh oh . power gone superfly  ?14:32
Private_Userno, he is even older than you Kilos, its his bed time now... LOL14:45
Private_Userhahahaha14:46
Kiloshahaha14:46
Private_Userbut thanks for reminding me let me check if there is any Load Shedding taking place14:46
Private_Useryep where I am as at 17:00 Stage 1 Load Shedding Active14:48
Kilosai!14:48
solidityI propose a new word: Eskompetent. It's synonymous with incompetent.14:48
Kilosi can never find the correct schedule for here14:49
Kiloslol good one solidity  14:49
Private_UserThankfully for us Stage 1 would have only affected us from 14:00 to 16:00 but since it only starts at 17:00 I guess we missed it unless they change it to Stage 3/4 then unfortunately we will be affected from 22:00 (touch wood it does not go to that stage.. hehe)14:52
Kilossigh14:53
Private_Userhmm...14:53
Private_UserI just checked Eskoms site and they not Load Shedding so why is the municipality load shedding14:54
Kilosthey do their own thing14:54
Private_Userlol14:55
Kiloswithout reason or logic14:55
Private_Userhahaha14:55
Kilosi went off 3 times yesterday14:55
Private_Userwhere do you get your power from Eskom or Municipality?14:56
Kilospta peeps14:56
Kilosthe give the local area watch peeps their schedule but nothing fits anywhere14:57
Private_Userwell according to the City of Tshwane no load shedding taking place14:58
Private_Userwell on their website that is14:58
Kilosyay14:58
Kilosya but that means nothing either14:58
Private_Userlol14:58
Private_Useryou probably right14:58
Private_Userthey may just decide eish too much stress on the power ok switch em off14:59
solidityman, we sure are lucky, we are in stage 1 here but for the past two weeks it has always missed us when it is on14:59
Kilosi think they draw straws to see who cuts what off14:59
Private_Userlol14:59
Kilossolidity  smile14:59
Private_Userwhich area you at solidity?14:59
solidityCape Town Northern Suburbs15:00
Kilosmy home town15:00
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Kilosoh my15:00
smileKilos: :o15:00
smile:OO15:00
smileo.O15:00
Kilosnow i got you mixed with someone else15:00
Kiloshi smile  15:01
Kilos:D15:01
smilehi :DD15:01
Private_Userok cool we get our power from Ethekwini Municipality15:01
Kiloswow and you so far away Private_User  15:01
Kilosthey spread their wings far hey15:01
Private_Userlol not that far Kilos its about 20 to 30min drive Durban CBD from where I live15:03
Kilosthats far man , to rule the roost15:04
Private_Userlol if I drive the opposite direction for about 10mins max,  I am in Balito and they fall under a different district15:05
Private_Usermaybe not even 10mins and I would be in a different municipality15:06
Private_Userbut I remember when I lived in JHB years back I lived in house where if I walked up the road and crossed the robots I would have been in Rooderpoort but I was not living in Roodeport15:08
Private_Userhehe15:08
Private_Usermakes you wonder who decides how far a boundary goes before some place is called another place15:09
Kilosya but if you could backtrack 30 years on google maps you will see there were large open veldt areas there15:11
Kilosnow they have all merged15:11
Kilosthe country grew too fast15:11
georgelappieshi all15:17
Kiloshi georgelappies  15:17
georgelappieshi Kilos, how are you doing15:17
Kiloscold but good ty , and you?15:17
Private_Userlol yeah but I think its becoming too much of a concrete jungle and getting a bit cluster phobic for me (or maybe I am just too used to space and living on the farm) I drove once in an area where I used to work and drove that route every day and at that time yes open veld but now complexes and more complexes and a few shopping centre and more complexes, I ended up taking the "scenic" route15:17
Kiloshaha15:18
Private_Userhi georgelappies15:18
georgelappiesgood thanks15:21
georgelappieshi Private_User 15:21
Kilosnlsthzn  ping15:24
Kilosoh Private_User  you see MaNI  found a home here15:25
Private_UserKilos: yes I did and he is also still supporting ##ubuntu-za-social as well, thank MaNI, but that channel is looking so sad even georgl is no longer part of it but you know what's the worst part Kilos, is that the person who created the channel has also abandoned it (so very sad :( )... LOL15:30
Kilosaw sorry man, but when i get busy here and peeps are shouting in other channels i get mixed up and answer in wrong places15:31
Kilosbut we could still use it when other places are quiet15:31
Kilosit wont go away15:31
Private_Useryeah no worries Kilos, it would be lekker though if people would start using it15:32
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MaNIheh16:08
MaNIjust ban all off topic chat here, then it will have an influx :p16:13
inetprogood evening16:36
rusbuso/16:39
Kiloshi inetpro  17:01
Kiloshi dlPhreak  welcome to ubuntu-za17:01
dlPhreakHello Kilos and thank you very much :)17:03
Kiloshmm...17:25
magespawngood evening17:27
Kiloshi magespawn  17:27
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inetproso let's see whether Eskom and City of Tshwane can keep the lights on today17:45
Kiloslol17:45
Kilosi enjoyed the new word17:45
Kiloseskompetent17:45
Kilosincompetent x 1017:46
inetprolooks like it's my turn every Tuesday evening at 8:00 now17:46
magespawnhah17:46
Kiloseish17:46
Kilosyou off now?17:46
magespawnjust had mine from 17:0017:46
Kiloseskom said no shedding today17:46
Kilosoh wow17:47
* inetpro not looking forward to our next meeting any more17:47
inetproso damn disruptive it's not funny17:47
Kilosyip17:47
Kilostotal suckville17:47
inetproreally need a different plan to keep running the laptop, interwebs and a light or two17:49
Kilospower ball17:49
inetprowish it was just a little cheaper17:49
Kilostesla17:49
inetproai!17:49
Kiloswhat is the za cost17:50
Kilosi see we have alternatives but they big thousands too17:50
inetproKilos: what are you talking about?17:50
Kiloswait17:50
KilosMaaz  google tesla power ball17:50
MaazKilos: "Powerwall | Tesla Home Battery - Tesla Motors" http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall :: "Tesla's Powerwall Is the Latest Step Toward Our Clean-Energy ..." http://singularityhub.com/2015/05/01/teslas-powerwall-is-the-latest-step-toward-our-clean-energy-future/ :: "Tesla: Lets use the sun to power everything with Powerball - IT ..."17:50
Maazhttp://www.itcentralpoint.com/tesla-lets-use-the-sun-to-power-everything-with-powerball :: "Tesla Powerwall: A Batte…17:50
Kilosinetpro  ^^17:50
Kiloshehe17:50
KilosMaaz  ty17:51
MaazYou are welcome Kilos17:51
inetproyou seriously think I can affors a +R30K solution?17:51
Kilosnope17:51
inetproafford*17:51
Kiloswho can17:51
inetproand it's not a power ball, it's a power wall17:51
Kilosall alternatives are expensive17:51
Kilosoh that then17:52
inetproor did I miss something17:52
Kilosthe links were good17:52
Kiloseven solar and batteries17:52
Kilosbatteries are about 1k a pop17:53
MaNIheres what I'm doing17:53
MaNIBatteries - ~R150017:53
inetproall those are wayyyyyy too expensive for an ordinary familyman like me17:53
MaNI400W DC power supply for computer - R100017:53
* inetpro will rather take a cold shower17:53
Kilosyip inetpro  grin and bare it is the only way out for a working family man17:54
MaNI4x solar panels - ~R500017:54
MaNIyou can swap the solar panels for an AC charge controller for much less17:54
MaNIthen I will buy a nice USB powered led lamp17:54
MaNIall networking equipment will be USD powered17:54
MaNI14v samsung LED monitor runs on DC so will draw directly from battery as well17:55
Kilosoh wow MaNI  that a great idea17:55
MaNIno expensive inverter17:55
Kilosi have those round tail lights trucks use17:55
inetproMaNI: even R1000 is too much for me man17:55
Kiloscant remember if they are led but17:55
KilosMaNI  only single young peeps can go that route17:56
MaNIjust have to persuade capemail/customs to give me my DC power supply, they seem to have taken a liking to it17:56
inetproai!17:56
Kilosbuild one man17:56
magespawnMaNI: where did you get the DC power supply from?17:57
MaNIanyway thats enough to keep my ability to work or watch movies going, geyser/fridge etc. can turn off for 2 hours fine17:57
MaNImagespawn, http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-X7-ATX-400-400W-High-Power-24PIN-DC-ATX-Power-Supply/747813627.html17:57
MaNIcouldn't find anywhere local for that sort of wattage17:57
MaNIfor people who don't need such wattage cheaper is available17:57
Kiloseish thats not cheap either17:59
MaNIKilos, I hear that some AC power supplys can be converted if you cut the AC circuitry out, but I wasn't feeling brave enough17:59
Kilos12v input?17:59
MaNIyeah its not cheap, though if you happened to be buyying a new PSU anyway it wouldn't be that bad17:59
Kilosi cant find its specs18:00
MaNI1418:00
Kiloswhere you get the 14v from18:00
MaNIbut it can work anything from 12 to 18 apparently18:00
MaNII'll do some testing when it gets here18:00
Kiloswhat power drives it?18:01
Kilosbattery18:01
MaNIbattery yeah18:01
MaNII'm hoping I can drive it from 12v - but I've not purchased new batteries yet, if I can't I'll have to spec my batteries to be higher voltage18:02
MaNIif 12 works I'll use my existing UPS battery for starters while I decide what panels etc. to go for18:03
Kiloswill it take 24v input18:03
Kilosinetpro  cant you lappy last for a meeting?18:05
MaNIclaims 12-20 is ideal IIRC, 24 probably slightly high :/18:05
Kilosor what else users power in your setup18:05
MaNI*14-2018:05
Kilosyou dont get batteries in that range18:06
MaNIcan maybe step 24 down if need be18:06
Kilosor didnt18:06
MaNIcan build a 16v from 2v cells though it might cost a bit more then18:07
Kilosstepping down is hard18:07
Kilosnormally stepping up or down uses transformers but they use ac18:07
Kilosyou would have to make a divider circuit18:08
MaNIe.g. 8x 2v 200ah batteries or whatever18:08
Kilosbut stepping 24 down would be more efficient than stepping 12v up18:09
MaNIbut yeah there wasn't a lot of choice on DC power supplies that were affordable, so I'm getting that one here first and then I'll figure something out :p18:10
inetproai!18:10
inetpro8:00 and I was dead in the water again18:10
Kiloseish inetpro  18:11
Kilosyou didnt answer me18:11
inetprotakes me about 10 minutes to swap sim and get online again18:11
Kiloswhat else you need power fo in you setup18:11
* Kilos waits patiently18:12
MaNIif its just a laptop just get an add-on battery :p18:12
Kilosmaybe he needs power for router and external antenna18:13
rusbusswitch mode power supply18:13
rusbusj/k I don't know what you guys are talking about18:13
rusbusjust glanced18:13
Kiloslol18:13
Kilosoh you the toti guy?18:14
rusbusya18:14
rusbus:(18:14
inetprosukkel, sukkel, sukkel18:14
rusbusI thought we had a bond, Kilos!18:14
Kilosi got you mixed with someone else today18:14
rusbus:'(18:14
Kiloscurry bond18:14
rusbuswe are bound by ring sting18:14
Kilosi dont remember things man18:15
Kiloslol18:15
rusbusj/k my poephol is too strong for ring sting18:15
Kilosi dont even remember who the other guy was now18:15
rusbuswasn't me :D18:16
* Kilos scrolls18:16
inetproKilos: I am on my laptop18:17
Kilosok inetpro  how long does the battery last18:18
inetprothe battery should last at least an hour, but18:18
inetprothe Telkom signal on the mobile phone is useless compared to on the router18:18
Kilosim trying to con ian out of one18:18
Kilosyou want a usb modem inetpro  ?18:18
inetproKilos: I have a suspicion that the towers are also loadshedded and running on minimal power but I would have to proove that18:21
Kiloseish18:22
Kilosand you are chair18:22
inetproexactly18:22
Kilosand for first africa meet18:22
inetprowell today is a good test18:22
MaNIthe cheapest solar panels I can find are in durban, for the first time ever I am jealous of durban people :p18:23
Kiloslol18:23
inetproclearly struggling a bit here18:23
Kiloswhy inetpro  we see you18:23
KilosMaaz  ping inetpro  18:23
MaazKilos: Error: unknown host inetpro18:23
Kiloshmm...18:24
Kilosevening ThatGraemeGuy  18:28
ThatGraemeGuy'lo18:29
Kilosohi superfly  what was with the good night earlier18:29
Kiloshi Tonberry  18:29
MaNIKilos, it seems the 20v is a typo on the alibaba site, on invoice and actual pico box site it is 24v, so that will make things easier :p18:30
Kilosyeah much better18:30
Kiloswill last longer too18:30
Kilos24v battery same as trucks use18:31
Kilosexpensive but18:31
inetprodamn!18:31
inetpronow switched to GSM only to see whether it will be stable18:31
inetprobut immediately see it's not18:31
inetprolag: 30s18:32
Kilosinetpro  with your work staying online we cant see you disappear18:32
MaNIcutting out the double AC->DC->AC->DC conversion from my current UPS and power supply appealed to me thats why I decided to try this route :p18:32
Kilosits a good way for lappies MaNI  18:32
Kilosno good for desktops18:32
inetproKilos: obviously18:33
Kilosim not sure how much power an inverter eats18:33
inetproKilos: obviously you can't see how I'm struggling here18:33
Kilosinetpro  cant you make your connections show afk18:33
inetprolooks like signal is relatively stable now on GSM18:33
Kiloslike work afk when you not there18:34
Kilossame like fly does???18:34
Kilosall i taught you, you still know nothing18:36
* Kilos hides18:36
inetproai!18:38
inetproKilos: ok, watch my status 18:38
* Kilos watches18:39
inetprodid you see anything changing?18:39
Kilosnope18:40
inetprolag: 30s18:40
Kiloswow18:40
Kilosmine is 483ms18:41
inetprotakes too long to reconnect18:41
Kilosyou should just set the work connection to show afk18:41
Kilosfor starters anyway18:42
inetproonce connected it seems fine... but I think it would be too risky to have meeting like this18:42
inetproanyway lights are back18:42
inetprohang on18:42
Kilosyay18:42
* Kilos hangs on18:42
MaNIyeah not sure, I'd thumbsuck that 90% efficiency is probably the norm for people who can't afford super expsneive ones18:44
MaNImy cheap UPS is probably horribly inefficient18:44
Kilosmy ones battery packet up 18:45
Kilosbut it only gave 2 mins to shut down anyway18:45
Kilosthats no good18:45
MaNIyeah, I replaced the battery in mine once already18:45
MaNIapparently they have cheap nasty charge controllers that eat batteries for breakfast18:46
Kilosthat part shouldnt be too hard to rebuild18:46
MaNItruck battery - interesting - I've had overseas people swear that eletric forklift batteries are best, but haven't looked closely at whats available on local market18:47
Kiloswow18:47
Kilosthey are half the size of a double bed18:47
Kilosand 3 or 4 ft high18:47
Kiloscost big bucks18:47
Kilosunless you mean one cell only i spose18:48
Kilosi used to repair and buy and rebuild them a long time ago18:48
MaNIheh18:48
MaNIneed to do my homework on whats available locally at what price though - deep cycle vs not etc.18:49
inetprook, am back to normal18:49
Kilosyaya inetpro  lets hope you dont shed on meetingnigh18:49
Kilosai!18:50
inetproI will get better at this eventually but at this stage would not risk taking the chair on a Tuesday evening 18:50
Kilosim not gonna advocate changing days again18:51
Kilosi had too much teenstand last time 18:51
Kilosand even more from the board18:51
inetproKilos: advocate for another chair18:51
Kilosnono18:52
Kilosyou my choice of chair18:52
smilebye :p18:52
Kilosill make the africa meeting on a thursday night18:52
inetprogood evening smile18:52
Kiloscheers smile18:52
Kilossleep tight lad18:52
inetprooh and good night as well18:52
smilethanks18:53
smile:)18:53
Kilos:)18:53
inetpro:-)18:53
Kilosmy ander laatjie is weg18:53
KilosMaaz  seen theblazehen18:53
MaazKilos: theblazehen was last seen 4 months, 23 days, 3 hours, 18 minutes and 21 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-01-17 07:35:18 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-06-08 12:45:08 PDT18:53
inetprowb bmg50518:53
inetproKilos: ai!18:53
Kilosyo bmg505  our quiet ham18:53
Kilosyes superfly  my maia answered from ubuntu.com18:55
Kilosi asked her and david not to let their memberships expire18:55
inetproKilos: I've set my quassel to auto away on detach now but think there's a timeout of sorts before it actually happens18:56
Kilosnono man18:57
inetproin other words not very worthwhile to show you that I'm gone immediately18:57
Kilosjust afk but mainly from the work one18:57
inetproKilos: oh and I actually prefer to be awake all the time18:57
Kilosyou can set the timeout in a decent client18:57
* Kilos sniggers18:57
Kilosnono man the work one must stay online but show afk18:58
Kilosso i can see whn you arrive18:58
inetproKilos: no, setting the nick to afk is not negotiable18:58
Kilosnow you show available even when away for long weekends18:59
inetproactually very irritating18:59
inetproKilos: I know18:59
Kilosgrrrr18:59
* inetpro did it on purpose18:59
Kilosya because you nosy and want to keep us guessing hey?18:59
Kiloslol18:59
Kilossorry pro18:59
Kilosteasing19:00
Kiloshow am i supposed to skinner about you when you never gone19:00
inetproyou just don't19:01
Kiloshmm...19:01
* inetpro is watching you19:01
Kilosskelm19:01
Kilosi need to make many changes before i croak19:02
mazalNight everyone19:03
Kilosnight mazal  19:03
Kiloslekker slaap seun19:03
inetproKilos: make many changes?19:04
Kilosha ubuntiste-msakni  start working19:04
inetproeskom not very transparent on twitter today19:06
inetprono announcement of loadshedding19:06
inetprobut at least they now announced, "#Load_shedding stage 1 has been terminated, please note that it may take longer to restore power in some areas."19:06
Kilosai!19:07
KilosMaaz  what happened to your recruits?19:08
MaazKilos: Huh?19:08
ubuntiste-msakninot yet Kilos :) Just arrived..19:08
Kilosai!19:08
Kilosubuntiste-msakni  about time19:08
Kilosim ready for bed already19:08
ubuntiste-msakni:D 19:08
Kiloshaha19:09
ubuntiste-msakniIt's 8pm in here :)19:09
Kilos9.10pm here19:09
inetproby the way, has anyone of you tried the edX courses yet?19:10
ubuntiste-msakniI did inetpro :)19:10
inetproubuntiste-msakni: cool, and how are they?19:10
ubuntiste-msakniJust didn't finish anyone x( I'm a lazy guy, I start and never finish them.. The only one I finished was the Linux foundation one.. Because I didn't checkout the courses, I passed the exam without reading the course (shame on me If I didn't pass :D ) 19:11
inetproai!19:11
ubuntiste-msakniinetpro, cool things.. I like the platform.. It's much better than moodle.. 19:11
Kilosyou see why im so tired inetpro  19:12
inetproand for those still in the dark, I'm talking about https://www.edx.org/19:12
ubuntiste-msakniKilos, because I'm lazy? :D :p19:12
Kiloslol19:12
inetproKilos: why?19:12
ubuntiste-msakni:D19:12
Kilosthe date eaters dont have much energy19:12
inetprouh19:13
Kilosso i have to nag nag nag19:13
ubuntiste-msakniinetpro, https://s3.amazonaws.com/verify.edx.org/downloads/8aefe508adc3465ea6a344994a30f0d4/Certificate.pdf19:13
Kilosbut things are getting done19:13
inetproubuntiste-msakni: nice!19:13
ubuntiste-msaknihahahaha :D Kilos badly I quit coffee (as you know).. You'll see when I back to my beloved coffee :D 19:14
* inetpro would like to do the courses but not to write the exams19:14
inetproexams are way too expensive for us19:14
=== ubuntiste-msakni is now known as elacheche_anis
elacheche_anisinetpro, You can do the exams without paying anything :)19:15
inetproserious?19:15
inetproonly other trouble I have with it is the videos, they would eat way too much data for me19:15
Kilosget them at work19:16
elacheche_anisMany of the courses are 100% FREE.. Then some offers FREE certification others tell you that if you need to get a PAPER one you need to pay for it.. 19:16
inetproelacheche_anis: is there a way to download all videos of a course at once?19:16
elacheche_anisOthers says that if you need to get a Certification that you are an expert in something you need to finish A,B,c and D courses then pay for the certification19:16
elacheche_anisinetpro, Emmm.. technically YES, because they host them on youtube, you need just to know the links then download them..19:18
elacheche_anisinetpro, https://www.udacity.com/ is a good option too19:18
* inetpro making a note of that, thanks elacheche_anis19:19
elacheche_anisAnytime inetpro :) 19:20
inetprogood night everyone19:53
inetproKilos: now check my status if I disconnect in a few minutes19:53
inetproI mean, a few minutes after I disconnect, which is...19:53
Kiloswhy are you doing that19:54
inetprodoing what?19:54
Kilosthe afk thing19:54
inetprono I'm not19:54
Kiloswhat are you doing?19:54
inetprojust setting an away status19:54
Kiloswhy19:54
inetprobecause you want it19:55
Kilosnonono19:55
inetprook bye19:55
Kilosyou dont want it , i dont mind at all19:55
inetproek moet gaan slaap oom19:55
Kilosok lekker slaap oompie19:55
inetprowhich is.... now19:55
KilosMaaz  tell inetpro  yes it works fine, somewhere aroung 1 minute later you gray out19:57
MaazKilos: Okay, I'll tell inetpro on freenode19:57
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:59
smileYou too20:02
smile:)20:02
Kilos:D20:03
smile:-D :-D20:03
hibanagood evening20:04
hibanaai!20:04
hibanagood night20:05
inetpro.20:14
Maazinetpro: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell inetpro yes it works fine, somewhere aroung 1 minute later you gray out" 17 minutes and 1 second ago20:14
Maazinetpro: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell inetpro lunapersa" 12 minutes and 30 seconds ago20:14
inetproai!20:15
* inetpro wonders what he must do with lunapersa20:15
inetproelacheche_anis: that someone related to you?20:15
elacheche_anisYeah inetpro she's my fiancée!! What's wrong x)20:19
inetproahh... no I think Kilos tried to tell me something about her being in a high position of sorts20:21
inetprocouldn't remember the name20:21
elacheche_anisYou mean the LoCo Council?20:22
inetproyep, is she on there?20:22
elacheche_anisYeah, she's member of the LoCo Council.. But I have no more informations20:22
inetprointeresting... well, I'm not sure why he wanted to tell me anyway, but thanks20:23
elacheche_anisl000l.. Will askj him tomorrow x(20:25
inetpromaybe he's thinking LoCo Council = Community Council20:26
inetpro:-)20:26
inetprotoo many councils20:27
inetproeven I get confused20:27
inetprobut that is nothing new anyway20:28
* inetpro is often more confused than others20:28
elacheche_anisx) 20:31
elacheche_anismaybe :/20:31
inetpronow really need to go sleep20:32
inetprogood night20:32
smileGood night20:32
smile:)20:32
elacheche_anisGood night :)20:40
smileHallo Cryterion 20:42
smileYou are late20:42
Cryterionyeah been out for a bit20:43
smileYou shouldnt :-P SA is not safe20:44
Cryteriononly go to places i know are safe in general20:45
Cryterionbut safer here in sa than alot of other countries20:46
smile:-D then I guess you are fine20:46
Cryterionyep home now anyway20:47
Cryterioni off again, night everyone20:54

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