[00:00] <skits> I thought about going to 15.* but i see its not till 16 that the next lts is released :/
[00:00] <hr49_pi> Hello. I am having occasional black screens after resuming from suspend. (I do not know how to reproduce the issue.) I took a look at my Xorg.1.log, which reports that /dev/fb0 does not exist before terminating. (log: http://pastebin.com/KjEix873) I am running Xubuntu 15.04 on a computer with an NVIDIA 550 Ti with the nvidia-346-updates driver, though I have also had this issue with Ubuntu 14.04, Xubuntu
[00:00] <hr49_pi> 14.04, and 14.10 with nvidia-304-updates and nvidia-340-updates. Any insight (perhaps just where else to look to diagnose the problem further) would be appreciated.
[00:08] <ObrienDave> skits, LTS is every 2 years
[00:10] <skits> ah. Makes sense. Man, the people here are very polite and helpful. Thanks everyone :)
[00:11] <ObrienDave> you won't always think that ;P lol
[00:14] <skits> "shrugs" everyone has a bad day and I imagine there thousands of questions a day here and some......aggravating at best to answer.  I think I can forgive a  f aux pas or two :P
[00:19] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i'm back - wonder if you thought of any way to do this with this hp mini 1000. i remember *a long time ago* that i had a system with a broadcom problem, and somehow we downloaded the driver to a disk, and installed it. this little box doesn't have a cd port, but would it be possible to get the driver onto a usb and install it via the 2nd usb port?
[00:26] <pavlos> mikubuntu, are you running live usb now?
[00:26] <mikubuntu> pavlos: yes, lubuntu 1204 live
[00:27] <pavlos> mikubuntu, I dont have L here but is there a system settings | software and updates
[00:27] <pavlos> mikubuntu, if there an additional drivers?
[00:28] <pavlos> mikubuntu, there may be an option to wnable wifi drivers
[00:28] <mikubuntu> pavlos: yes theres the software updater
[00:29] <pavlos> mikubuntu, no, software updater is different
[00:29] <pavlos> anyone familiar wiht lubuntu online?
[00:30] <mikubuntu> pavlos: yes there's the button to retrieve additional drivers, but it didn't function on the wire
[00:31] <mikubuntu> pavlos: thats why i wondered if i could dl the driver to a usb, and then install it that way.
[00:31] <pavlos> mikubuntu, somehow I think you need to figure out why the wired does not work? bad cable? reboot modem?
[00:31] <pavlos> mikubuntu, if you know the driver sure you can put it in the other usb and istall it
[00:31] <mikubuntu> pavlos: the same modem is feeding wifi to this laptop
[00:32] <pavlos> mikubuntu, what modem is it?
[00:32] <mikubuntu> pavlos: modem is an att gateway
[00:33] <pavlos> mikubuntu, so the modem provide wifi plus it has an ethernet port but somehow when you connect the mini, it does not get wired connection
[00:34] <histo> mikubuntu: what chipset is your wireless?
[00:34] <mikubuntu> pavlos: correct
[00:35] <mikubuntu> histo: i forgot how to determine that -- command?
[00:35] <pavlos> mikubuntu, lspci
[00:35] <pavlos> mikubuntu, probably you have a bcm43xx
[00:37] <mikubuntu> pavlos: oooooh, thats what TJ had me do earlier, and i got about 13 pages of output full of error msgs, debug, warning -- i wanted to post it to pastebin but din't know how to export from the machine -- can i use a usb to export so i could post for you?
[00:37] <histo> mikubuntu: lspci | grep Network
[00:38] <mikubuntu> histo: how to i make the 'l' symbol again?
[00:39] <pavlos> mikubuntu, that is the pipe symbol, above enter with shift
[00:39] <mikubuntu> pavlos: ok i see it
[00:39] <pavlos> mikubuntu, lspci should not give you 13 pages!
[00:40] <pavlos> mikubuntu, lspci gives the devices you have on the pci bus, usually the last reads, Network Controller
[00:40] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i copied it into an abiword document and it was over 12 pages in landscape render
[00:42] <pavlos> mikubuntu, can you try what histo suggested? lspci | grep Network
[00:42] <pavlos> mikubuntu, the result should be ONE lines
[00:42] <pavlos> line
[00:45] <mikubuntu> pavlos: Network controller: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11 b/g LP0PHY (rev 01)
[00:46] <mikubuntu> pavlos: Broadcom BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[00:47] <pavlos> mikubuntu, ok
[00:47] <histo> mikubuntu: you'll need linux-firmware-nonfree
[00:47] <histo> !offline | mikubuntu
[00:48] <mikubuntu> histo: ok, but not sure what you're referring to
[00:49] <histo> mikubuntu: you need to install that package it should contain firmware for your card to work
[00:49] <pavlos> mikubuntu, can you make another live usb for lubuntu 14.04? it may have that chipset supported
[00:49] <mikubuntu> histo: so you want me to use synaptic? not sure if i have it on this box but i can download it
[00:51] <botch> Hello
[00:51] <histo> mikubuntu: you can download the packages on another box and install them
[00:51] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i have a 1404 lubuntu, but i can't get it to load live -- right after the splash it goes to black screen of death. we tried altering the kernel string with nomodeset, acpi-OFF, forcepae, etc to no avail
[00:52] <histo> mikubuntu: I thought you had wireless problems?
[00:52] <pavlos> mikubuntu, somehow I think the wired issue needs to be resolved first
[00:52] <mikubuntu> histo: yes i have wireless problem on the hp mini 1000, not on my laptop
[00:53] <pavlos> mikubuntu, even with 12.04 you should be able to connect wired. If not, something is not ok
[00:53] <mikubuntu> the wireless on the mini works fine in xp, so i think its not broken, i just don't have the right linux driver for it
[00:54] <pavlos> mikubuntu, does the wired work on XP?
[00:54] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i suppose the eth0 cord could be damaged?
[00:54] <pavlos> mikubuntu, try another cable
[00:54] <histo> mikubuntu: what is your current question then?
[00:55] <mikubuntu> pavlos: that i don't know because i didn't have a problem with it
[00:55] <pavlos> histo, his wifi does not work but he cannot go wired so he cant get the bcm43 driver
[00:56] <mikubuntu> pavlos: but i could get the bcm43 driver on a stick and install it, yes?
[00:56] <EriC^^> pavlos: i think it's on the live usb in pool/main/b
[00:56] <histo> mikubuntu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-firmware-nonfree
[00:56] <pavlos> EriC^^, can you guide him?
[00:56] <EriC^^> ok
[00:57] <mikubuntu> histo: so this package includes the bcm drivers?
[00:57] <histo> I thought it was on live usb as well
[00:58] <EriC^^> mikubuntu: do you have a live usb?
[00:59] <mikubuntu> EriC^^: yes, running lubuntu 1204 live
[00:59] <EriC^^> ok, plug it in
[01:01] <mikubuntu> so histo -- i don't see the actual download link on that page
[01:03] <histo> mikubuntu: don't download that if you're using 12.04
[01:03] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i do have synaptic on this box -- were you saying to dl the linux-firmware-nonfree from there?
[01:03] <histo> mikubuntu: just listen to EriC^^
[01:04] <mikubuntu> histo EriC^^ pavlos  i would prefer to be using lub 1404 but we could not diagnose why it was going to black screen -- what could be different between 1204 and 1404 to cause that?
[01:05] <botch> Can I ask a question?
[01:05] <pavlos> mikubuntu, trying lubuntu 12.04 in a VM so I can follow
[01:05] <histo> !ask | botch
[01:05] <Bashing-om> botch: It is ubuntu related ? then ask !
[01:06] <botch> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 and cannot get the flash to work.  No twitch.tv stream or any Facebook videos.  Is Flash available in Ubuntu 14.04?
[01:07] <botch> I've tried pepper-flash and even upgrading the flash-plugin but to no avail.
[01:08] <histo> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[01:09] <mikubuntu> oh, and just because i believe in full disclosure -- when i get wifi working, still going to have this issue: https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/
[01:09] <botch> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[01:09] <wastrel> wi 7
[01:09] <histo> !info flasplugin-downloader
[01:09] <kostkon> !info flashplugin-installer trusty
[01:10] <botch> ...Just for clarification, I put Ubuntu on this laptop due to security and personal want.  I will be moving back to Windows 8 by the end of the summer if I can't get flash to  work
[01:10] <botch> ...AND .... I don't know terminal very well
[01:12] <histo> botch: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/install-adobe-flash-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
[01:12] <histo> botch: you should just need to the flashplugin-installer package
[01:13] <histo> botch: the reason we tell  youto use terminal here is it's easier than click here, then there, etc... if you just open a terminal and sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer  you should be good.
[01:13] <mikubuntu> botch: if you want to own it, you'll get it. this community will help you learn, or you can be a slave to ms forever. i stopped using ms in 2007, and never looked back.
[01:14] <botch> I wonder why I've never heard of ubuntuhandbook.org....I think I could actually get this laptop to be my main computer.  (I spent over $2000 on a mac recently because I needed a work / school /personal computer that works).
[01:14] <leafybasil> Can anyone tell me why ZSH halts after like 25 lines?
[01:14] <histo> !manual | botch
[01:15] <botch> so when I see !something , do I just type the !something  ?
[01:15] <botch> in this chat?
[01:15] <OerHeks> !bot
[01:16] <histo> botch: no that's people issuing triggers to ubottu to send you a link or information.
[01:16] <histo> botch: we use the bot to answer common questions in here.
[01:16] <botch> I'm not understanding the !thing thing
[01:17] <histo> botch: It's people sending a trigger to ubottu.  Ubottu is a bot we use him to send information to you
[01:18] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i be back in 5-7 min
[01:18] <histo> botch: like above I typed !manual | botch   that told ubottu to print out the manual page info for you.
[01:21] <botch> the page shared on Ubuntuhandbook.org did not work
[01:21] <histo> botch: are you runnign 64 bit of 32bit ubuntu?
[01:21] <botch> 64 bit
[01:22] <histo> botch: do you use firefox or chromium for your browsing?
[01:22] <botch> firefox.  I think I had it on a previous install on this system but since the crash and reinstall, I'm back at square one.  Firefox only
[01:23] <histo> botch: open the software center and search for flashplugin-installer   install that package
[01:23] <botch> Even in firefox, videos are not available on Facebook
[01:23] <botch> histo - it's already installed
[01:23] <B0g4r7> botch, I installed pepperflashplayer and it worked for me.  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/install-pepper-flash-chromium-ubuntu-14-04
[01:23] <OerHeks> Install Chrome, for flash & DRM.
[01:23] <OerHeks> = pepperflash
[01:24] <B0g4r7> But yeah.  I use Chromium, not FF.
[01:25] <histo> botch: okay so the only thing not working is videos on facebook?
[01:26] <histo> botch: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/  does that page display properly?
[01:27] <nemith> facebook videos should be html5
[01:28] <Razzdoll> I have a wired, and wireless connection, but when I do a ifconfig, the wired only brings up an IP. the wireless is up, but doesnt cooperate. Can someone help me on this
[01:28] <nemith> er nm
[01:29] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i don't understand virtual machines, do you set it up to have the same configurations as the machine you want to troubleshoot?
[01:29] <pavlos> mikubuntu, tried but failed with 12.04 I will try with 14.04
[01:31] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i would obviously prefer to get 1404 running if we could just figure out how to get the black screen issue resolved. i have 1404 on a stick still
[01:31] <pavlos> mikubuntu, I'm not familiar with lubuntu so I'm learning ... any change you can try just ubuntu either 12.04 or 14.04?
[01:31] <pavlos> mikubuntu, the blank screen implies video issues, you could try to boot as TEXT
[01:32] <mikubuntu> pavlos: we tried that today, and it loaded but hung up -- to much load on this little machine someone suggested
[01:32] <doug00> is it possible to force i915 to stay at "slow" gpu clock?
[01:32] <doug00> I have a couple of games that draw excessive fps and make it hot
[01:32] <pavlos> mikubuntu, ubuntu 12.04 should be less resources
[01:33] <mikubuntu> pavlos: thats what i had, it hung up badly
[01:34] <pavlos> mikubuntu, I guess I hope someone else comes to help ... I'm out of ideas
[01:34] <mikubuntu> pavlos: lubuntu doesn't seem strained at all, aside from these issues
[01:34] <mikubuntu> :(
[01:35] <pavlos> mikubuntu, is there a local group in your town where you can get help?
[01:35] <mikubuntu> pavlos: not that i know of
[01:36] <botch> I got google chrome installed and the blank question mark icon is in Unity now.  Videos work for facebook there but still not in Firefox, my preferred browser
[01:36] <mikubuntu> pavlos:  there's AA, but i quit drinking .. lol
[01:37] <pavlos> mikubuntu, have you tried xubuntu 12.04
[01:37] <mikubuntu> pavlos: no, should that be our plan b for now
[01:38] <pavlos> mikubuntu, I mean, if you look online for hp mini 1000 ubuntu, there is a bunch of links
[01:38] <mikehgentry> Hi. Does anyone know of a DM that I can force *not* to remember the last used session? In other words, I want to be able to select sessions from a list, but if I log out, I *always* want a specific session to be selected. Using Xubuntu 14.04. Thanks.
[01:39] <mikubuntu> pavlos: so you think i should dl xub 1204 and try?
[01:40] <pavlos> mikubuntu, I'm more concerned about the wired ... I would boot into xp and see if I get wired net (to rule anything faulty)
[01:41] <soqets> someone's having trouble with their internet?
[01:41] <pavlos> soqets, yes mikubuntu
[01:41] <pavlos> soqets, running Lubuntu
[01:42] <soqets> I'm new to linux so I can't help much, but I was having trouble with getting internet
[01:42] <botch> I just read an article from June of last year.  Google Chrome is the only one that uses the latest flash software.  So much for firefox, I have work I have to do, goodnight
[01:42] <mikubuntu> pavlos: ok i get back to you in a few, its in another room
[01:42] <soqets> mikubuntu: when are you having trouble getting internet?
[01:43] <soqets> If you're using a realtek card, then that's probably the reason
[01:43] <pavlos> soqets, he has an hp mini 1000, running lubuntu live cannot get wireless
[01:43] <soqets> ah wireless. i can't help with that. sorry :(
[01:43] <mikubuntu> soqets: i think we determined that its a broadcom card
[01:44] <charginghawk> askubuntu is awesome - they helped me fix my networking issue
[01:44] <charginghawk> it feels great to have networking - thanks askubuntu.com
[01:45] <soqets> try installing the wireless drivers. maybe that'll help
[01:45]  * charginghawk feels PUMPED
[01:46] <charginghawk> actually, my ethernet was down, it only worked with old kernels and in safe mode, it was a bad scene all around
[01:46] <mikubuntu> pavlov b4 i log out of lubuntu -- did we determine that we cannot hook my laptop to the mini thru ethernet wire? so i could show you the massive output on lspci?
[01:46] <soqets> charginghawk, i don't even want to talk about my issue . i was about to give up on trying linux
[01:47] <mikubuntu> pavlos: b4 i log out of lubuntu -- did we determine that we cannot hook my laptop to the mini thru ethernet wire? so i could show you the massive output on lspci?
[01:47] <pavlos> mikubuntu, we dont need the putput, we figured that your wireless adapter is bcm4312
[01:47] <charginghawk> soqets: but you didn't, and that's why we're awesome
[01:47] <mikubuntu> pavlos: oh thats right :P
[01:47] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i'll boot back into xp and see if the wire works
[01:48] <EriC^^> !broadcom | mikubuntu
[01:49] <soqets> maybe this can help: http://www.antojose.com/content/solved-how-get-broadcom-bcm4312-80211bg-lp-phy-wirelesswlanwifi-adapter-working-ubuntu-1404
[01:49] <soqets> i don't know. just a google card on your adapter
[01:49] <soqets> *google search
[01:53] <Idler> is it possible to change the uuid of a partition of a device(eg Hard drive)?
[01:53] <EriC^^> yeah
[01:54] <Idler> is it likley to cause problems if GPT is what the entire system is based on?
[01:54] <ki7mt> Idler, uuidgen should do what your after or tune2fs .. -U <new uuid> .. something along those lines.
[01:54] <Idler> gpt as in when the uuid is the base ident info used
[01:54] <EriC^^> Idler: which partition would you be modifying?
[01:55] <Idler> just want to know, not actually editing
[01:55] <Idler> if i was to edit
[01:55] <ki7mt> Idler, see: man uuidgen
[01:56] <EriC^^> Idler: of course it would, you'd have to edit /etc/fstab and fix grub if you were modifying a ext4 fs like / or /boot .. and also if it were the efi partition
[01:57] <EriC^^> Idler_: did you get my last message?
[01:57] <Idler_> yea
[01:57] <Idler_> genuuid
[01:57] <Idler_> i was gonna ask, is that the safeest way to get another uuid?
[01:57] <EriC^^> no about it affecting stuff
[01:57] <Idler_> then no
[01:57] <EriC^^> Idler: of course it would, you'd have to edit /etc/fstab and fix grub if you were modifying a ext4 fs like / or /boot .. and also if it were the efi partition
[01:58] <Idler_> alrightis tghe
[01:58] <pavlos> mikubuntu, I have to leave in 10 min. Hope someone else has time ...
[01:58] <Idler_> alright*
[02:02] <mikubuntu> ok pavlos just to let you know -- the wire works in xp i went to hulu.com and its coming over live
[02:03] <mikubuntu> pavlos: i do want to thank you for all your time -- we gave it the good ol college effort. i am dl xubuntu 1204 now as you suggested, maybe by accident it will work where lubuntu failed
[02:05] <mikubuntu> pavlos: the mini has a wireless disabling switch which i used to be sure i was getting feed from the wire
[02:23] <__Myst__> Urgent issue:
[02:23] <__Myst__> My Wi-Fi randomly drops, and won't reconnect unless I reboot
[02:23] <__Myst__> What can I do? I can provide most info.
[02:27] <cos__> ?
[02:27] <cos__> you ren ma ?
[02:27] <Blue_Sapphire> #ubuntustudio
[02:35] <mikubuntu> god xubuntu is taking forEVER to dl
[02:41] <jmadero> evening all - my eject button isn't ejecting dvd's - anyone around to help?
[02:41] <__Myst__> jmadero: Have you checked it's sending the right signal?
[02:41] <__Myst__> right key*
[02:42] <OerHeks> jmadero, also in terminal? eject && eject t
[02:42] <jmadero> eject from terminal works fine
[02:42] <jmadero> __Myst__: how do I check the signal thing?
[02:43] <__Myst__> jmadero: Run this
[02:43] <__Myst__> xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '^KeyRelease' | sed -n '/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p
[02:43] <__Myst__> A gui will pop up
[02:43] <__Myst__> just press the eject key and close it
[02:43] <__Myst__> Look in the console and paste output
[02:43] <__Myst__> (should be one line)
[02:43] <jmadero> __Myst__: no GUI popped up
[02:44] <jmadero> and no output to console after pushing eject
[02:45] <__Myst__> Do you have xev?
[02:45] <__Myst__> You should have it prebundled
[02:45] <Blue_Sapphire> If there's anyone here using Android Studio, I get the error that the rendering library is more recent than my version of Android Studio and that I need to update studio but I already have the latest stable version, 1.2. What do i need to do to fix this? Is it possible to downgrade my rendering library so that it can work with studio?
[02:45] <__Myst__> try typing xev on its own
[02:45] <jmadero> __Myst__: yes xev alone works
[02:46]  * __Myst__ shrugs
[02:46] <__Myst__> literally no output?
[02:46] <__Myst__> try presing a few more keys efore
[02:46] <jmadero> __Myst__: with that first long command taht you gave
[02:47] <jmadero> no GUI popped up ata ll
[02:47] <__Myst__> Just exited?
[02:47] <jmadero> __Myst__: no terminal just showed a > on a new line
[02:49] <__Myst__> oh
[02:49] <__Myst__> incomplete command?
[02:49] <__Myst__> xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '\''^KeyRelease'\'' | sed -n '\''/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p'\''
[02:49] <__Myst__> this is it
[02:49] <__Myst__> actually
[02:51] <jmadero> __Myst__: same result
[02:51] <mghola> anyone know why I can't send to channel on ##linux even though I'm registered and identified?
[02:51] <mghola> hello?
[02:51]  * __Myst__ shrugs
[02:51] <__Myst__> that same command works for me, jmadero
[02:51] <jmadero> strange
[02:51] <__Myst__> actually no it doesn't
[02:52] <__Myst__> to that command add a "'"
[02:52] <__Myst__> without the "
[02:52] <jmadero> at the end?
[02:52] <Blue_Sapphire> If there's anyone here using Android Studio, I get the error that the rendering library is more recent than my version of Android Studio and that I need to update studio but I already have the latest stable version, 1.2. What do i need to do to fix this? Is it possible to downgrade my rendering library so that it can work with studio?
[02:52] <__Myst__> actualy, just remove the last quote
[02:52] <__Myst__> so it's
[02:52] <__Myst__> xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '\''^KeyRelease'\'' | sed -n '\''/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p'\'
[02:55] <jmadero> __Myst__: GUI came up - no output with eject key
[02:55] <jmadero> I know eject key works fine though (works in bios and in Windows)
[02:56] <__Myst__> jmadero: What kind of eject key is it?
[02:56] <__Myst__> Try other keys, jmadero
[02:56] <jmadero> Dell Studio 1737
[02:57] <jmadero> no output from any key this way (when I just did xev I got output with other keys)
[02:57] <mghola> I have a boot loader problem.
[02:57] <__Myst__> jmadero: I took that from the arch-wiki
[02:58] <jmadero> mghola: please just describe the problem
[02:58] <__Myst__> look up "arch-wiki xev"
[02:58] <jmadero> __Myst__: will do
[02:58] <mghola> After clean installs of ubuntu 14, 15, debian 8, lmde 2 after one or two boots the boot loader fails and system can't boot
[02:59] <__Myst__> mghola: boot loader being..?
[02:59] <mghola> grub i assume 2
[02:59] <jmadero> __Myst__: seems like this is a known problem (I should have googled a bit)
[03:00] <jmadero> trying easy solution now
[03:00] <__Myst__> jmadero: Arch wiki is a wonderful resource
[03:00] <__Myst__> Even if you're not on arch
[03:00] <__Myst__> it has helped me
[03:01] <mghola> i should mention that if I reinstall grub from livecd it will typically work for one or two more boots
[03:01] <jmadero> mghola: does it spit out errors?
[03:02] <jmadero> need more info to try to help then "it stops working after 2 times"
[03:04] <neonixcoder> hi team.. I installed 140.04 LTS from a USB bootable device on a custom built hardware which is having CF card as disk to install.
[03:04] <neonixcoder> Installation went fine with out any issue..
[03:04] <nopea> are there any decent on how to install Apache2/MySQL/PHP on Ubuntu Server 12?
[03:04] <nopea> decent guides I mean
[03:04] <Blue_Sapphire> If there's anyone here using Android Studio, I get the error that the rendering library is more recent than my version of Android Studio and that I need to update studio but I already have the latest stable version, 1.2. What do i need to do to fix this? Is it possible to downgrade my rendering library so that it can work with studio?
[03:04] <neonixcoder> but when booting up.. after couple of secs when kernel is loading the screen off it self..
[03:05] <neonixcoder> Any suggestions?
[03:05] <jmadero> mghola: keep the chat here so that there are more people who can offer assistance and others can learn from your issues
[03:05] <jmadero> mghola: please get the exact error..."something like" isn't enough (sorry)
[03:06] <mghola> "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"
[03:06] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | neonixcoder Maybe graphics driver releated
[03:06] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om: Let me check that link
[03:07] <mghola> oh wow, that could explain alot I have had mysterious black screen on previous installs
[03:08] <jmadero> is there a way to silence the connections/disconnections
[03:08] <jmadero> in this room they get distracting
[03:08] <nopea> I am able to setup all the pieces of LAMP on Ubuntu Desktop (12.04) but not Server
[03:08] <Bashing-om> mghola: :) ; Learn a lot hanging out in the right places .
[03:09] <mghola> I don't understand why it would boot normally a couple of times in that case and then just act like I installed without a boot partition.
[03:10] <Blue_Sapphire> If there's anyone here using Android Studio, I get the error that the rendering library is more recent than my version of Android Studio and that I need to update studio but I already have the latest stable version, 1.2. What do i need to do to fix this? Is it possible to downgrade my rendering library so that it can work with studio?
[03:13] <b4tm4n> can anyone recommend a backup program that supports webdav?
[03:17] <mghola> are the moderators on this site employed by canonical?
[03:17] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om: I tried that option.. Still I dont see screen display after couple of Kernel booting messages..
[03:18] <neonixcoder> Any suggestions?
[03:18] <b4tm4n> i really just need something that can copy on fixed intervals using webdav
[03:20] <Blue_Sapphire> If there's anyone here using Android Studio, I get the error that the rendering library is more recent than my version of Android Studio and that I need to update studio but I already have the latest stable version, 1.2. What do i need to do to fix this? Is it possible to downgrade my rendering library so that it can work with studio?
[03:20] <B0g4r7> b4tm4n, http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/davfs2
[03:21] <MrHeavy> I'm trying to extend an AppArmor policy with local deny customizations and they aren't working -- I make the changes to /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.bin.firefox, reload with aa-enforce /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox, and I can still access the files. Anyone know what's up?
[03:22] <b4tm4n> B0g4r7, roger that - i've got that installed, but two problems, 1) that just allows me to connect (so smart/incremental backups would require some coding) and 2) this is for my parents which could never figure out the CLI
[03:23] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: If it were me now I would try and boot to terminal. At the grub menu 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen; arrow down to the line starting with linux, and arrow across to "quiet splash" replace these terms with the term text . key combo ctl + x to continue the boot process. If you can boot to terminal we can look at the graphics situation.
[03:23] <neonixcoder> Got it..
[03:24] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:I have only vmlinuz and ro options at linux line
[03:25] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:Let me add taht terminal option..
[03:25] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: Huh ? What are you booting up ? a server ?
[03:25] <neonixcoder> Yes..
[03:25] <Blue_Sapphire> Good grief... is there ANYONE who is somewhat experienced in Android Studio? I've literally been here for over an hour waiting for a reply T-T
[03:26] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om: My linux line have "linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-30generic root=some_id ro"
[03:26] <jmadero> Blue_Sapphire: that's not a way to make friends or get help....just saying it's not IRC etiquette
[03:26] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: What release ? 14.04 ?
[03:26] <neonixcoder> Yes..
[03:26] <jmadero> Blue_Sapphire: if you're having issues try #linux or a forum or a mailing list
[03:26] <neonixcoder> its LTS 14.04.2
[03:27] <Blue_Sapphire> jmadero, like asklinux.com? i thought i would get better results here
[03:27] <Blue_Sapphire> mybad, askubuntu
[03:28] <jmadero> Blue_Sapphire: I'm just saying if you're that impatient...try multiple places. ask is one option, also linuxforums.org, there are quite a few choices out there
[03:28] <B0g4r7> b4tm4n, You could try and hook it up to a smart/incremental backup thing like maybe bacula.  Stick it in fstab so it's automagically mounted.  IDK, some things are just gonna require skills.  Backups are a hard thing to get right.
[03:28] <Blue_Sapphire> jmadero, ok, ill go there.
[03:28] <jmadero> Blue_Sapphire: also the Ubuntu mailing lists are a possibility
[03:28] <Blue_Sapphire> ok
[03:28] <Blue_Sapphire> good night all
[03:29] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: Not too sure, but try adding the term single before 'ro' .
[03:29] <neonixcoder> Ok
[03:30] <neonixcoder> Its giving grub prompt..
[03:30] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:What should I do know?
[03:30] <neonixcoder> I can see my file system here but can not edit anything as I dont have VI editor
[03:30] <b4tm4n> B0g4r7, agreed - but surely someone has done this before - it's not that bizarre of a situation
[03:32] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: Might be not too bad to boot to grub > prompt .. but lets try this .. reboot (ctl+alt+del) and instead of single try with the numeral 1 .
[03:34] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om: Sure..
[03:35] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: Are you local on the box, and are you sure you have a graphics card installed ?
[03:36] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:Yes, I am local to that box, not sure if graphics card is installed or not..
[03:36] <neonixcoder> How can I check it?
[03:37] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: Well if ya got a monitor hooked up we can safely assume there is some type of graphics set .
[03:39] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om: I installed OS with the same monitor and I assume by default, it will install drivers for it. By the way, Its an ACER lcd monitory
[03:40] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:I see some kernel booting but after some time the screen just disapers and switches off. I can see system still alive..
[03:40] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:Any suggestions?
[03:41] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: Yeah, the kernel is real smart about drivers. This being a server, the driver will not be all that complex .
[03:41] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:I can see almost 5 seconds booting information.. after that my screen just die..
[03:42] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: Yuk .. OK, are the led's on the keyboard also flashing ?
[03:42] <neonixcoder> Before coming here, I tried reinstalling and same result..
[03:42] <neonixcoder> I dont see lights now.. but I can give alt+ctrl+del to reboot..
[03:43] <neonixcoder> I can see my ethernet card is blinking indicating there is some data flow..
[03:43] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: I checking to see if this is maybe a kernel panic, IF ctl+alt+del works, the kernel is still intact .
[03:43] <neonixcoder> yes..
[03:44] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:Its a simple task and I taken 4 days to troubleshoot it :(
[03:44] <neonixcoder> Not sure where to start..!
[03:45] <neonixcoder> I tried same instllation on a KVM-VM which worked fine with out any issue..
[03:46] <b4tm4n> does anyone know of a file sync program that supports webdav?
[03:46] <andy__> I would like to post the file ~/program/Interest rates to wordpress using curl.  I have been given this web address to work with: http://user.wordpress.com/xmlrpc.php
[03:47] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: grasping here, as we do not have a lot to work with ... but, a server and is this a raid issue ?
[03:48] <neonixcoder> It is having normal partition..
[03:50] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: I have had the same experience with the system shutting down ( not just the display) when grub can not fimd it's config files. // We might try going back to the grub > promp and try and boot the system .. be aware it is past my time and I am more than a bit fatigued. My thinking could be cloudy .
[03:51] <neonixcoder> hmm Sure bashing-om for all your time
[03:52] <neonixcoder> can you give me a good linux /boot line so that I can place it in my linux line?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: Get back to the grub > promp ( not a grub rescue > prompt ??) .. and let's boot this sucker .
[03:52] <neonixcoder> Sure..
[03:52] <neonixcoder> one min
[03:53] <neonixcoder> yes..
[03:53] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: single hard drive and the system installed to the 1st partition ? ( we can check !)  ?
[03:53] <neonixcoder> I am at grub prompt now..
[03:54] <neonixcoder> Yes, its single CF card with just 2 GB space..
[03:54] <neonixcoder> and single partition..
[03:54] <neonixcoder> when I given ls, I got
[03:54] <neonixcoder> (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1)(hd1, msdos1)
[03:55] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: That 2G maybe below the minimum ... I know the desk top requies in excess of 5 Gigs now . Not too sure about these apples .
[03:55] <neonixcoder> ok..
[03:56] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:As server, it never complains that it is out of space when installing..
[03:56] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: let's try .. what do you get with 'ls -al (hd0,msdos1)/boot '
[03:58] <neonixcoder> I see abi,system.map,initrd.img,vmlinuz,-<kerver>-generic and a grub folder
[03:58] <Jack_The_Ripper> Hey all, I'm having an issue running ubuntu mate 14.04 with persistance from a usb. It boots up fine, but everything is so slow to operate. Take a minute or more to load firefox, or do anything.
[03:59] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:Just to conform, I can install same OS on a KVM VM with same process which I followed on actual physical machine.
[04:00] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: Let's boot up : ' linux (hd0,msdos1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro ; initrd (hd0,msdos1)/initrd.img ; boot ' .........
[04:00] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:Sure.. one min..
[04:02] <Jack_The_Ripper> Anyone know why im having this issue?
[04:02] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:Same effect.. no change.. after 5 sec.. My display go to blank again..
[04:04] <abes> Question: I remember being able to run a command such as ". some-script" and it would be an equivalent of "source ~/bin/some-script"
[04:05] <abes> Question (contd.): this sets up a virtual environment for me and I can see (.some-script) in front of my username@hostname:~some/directory$
[04:05] <abes> How can I add (?) the script to my user profile so I can execute it as source some-file by simply calling . some-file?
[04:07] <Bashing-om> neonixcoder: Yukkie .. sorry, but will take some one with greater experience than I have to know what is going on now .. seeems to me grub can not find it's config files (??) ya got a liveDVD of the desktop around and try and (RE-)install grub ??
[04:08] <andy__> I am trying to figure out the syntax for posting using curl.
[04:09] <neonixcoder> yes, I tried it..
[04:11] <neonixcoder> Let me try on other machine..
[04:12] <neonixcoder> Bashing-om:I have same config machine, Let me try out in different machine..
[04:12] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Are you were you can assit neonixcoder ?/ getting over my head now .
[04:20] <ben_vulpes> how do i exit the terminal that one can bring up at the login screen?
[04:21] <Bashing-om> ben_vulpes: key combo alt+F7 to return to the GUI .. to terminate the terminal and go to la-la land type ' exit ' .
[04:21] <ben_vulpes> gratzi Bashing-om
[04:22] <Bashing-om> ben_vulpes: :)
[04:22] <nexia> I'm having a bunch of dependency issues trying to install weechat on 15.04
[04:23] <nexia> https://ghostbin.com/paste/wfcyu/raw
[04:23] <nexia> why haven't they come over to 15.04 yet? :|
[04:32] <nemith> if your weechat ppa pointed to the right release?  (vivid)
[04:33] <OerHeks> nemith, looks like it, or not updated for some time
[04:38] <andy__> I am trying to work through the example on how to post directly to wordpress from R, but I am having trouble. http://yihui.name/knitr/demo/wordpress/
[04:39] <nexia> it's not updated from sometime apparently eh
[04:40] <andy__> I am having trouble gettting the login information into rstudio, using the example.
[05:04] <cos__> 21152
[05:06] <JinjaNinja> hello all. Anyone here have ubuntu studio?
[05:07] <bazhang> !studio | JinjaNinja
[05:07] <bazhang>  / join #ubuntustudio JinjaNinja
[05:10] <patcoll> Anyone know the open source web app that allows IT folks to set up tasks that other people in the org can run? I remember hearing about it and can't find it again...
[05:13] <skits> google foo has failed. in 14.04 is there something wrong with being able to apt-get install php5-hash?
[05:26] <wafflejock> skits, not sure what are you seeing from apt-get?
[05:26] <skits> the dreaded not found error. even after installing universal and all that
[05:27] <wafflejock> skits, you be sure to sudo apt-get update, after enabling any repos
[05:27] <wafflejock> !info php5-hash
[05:27] <skits> hmm. that might explain it.....
[05:27] <skits> dang tut on program I am installing says it is required.....
[05:28] <wafflejock> skits, I've used phPass in the past for bcrypt it looks like it might be baked in at this point too though
[05:28] <skits> thank you guys. i'll post the issue on their git since they say its a requirement..
[05:29] <wafflejock> skits, http://php.net/manual/en/function.password-hash.php and np
[05:29] <skits> ok, thank you waffle. trying to rule out all me being dumb errors before I post an issue on their git :)
[05:30] <wafflejock> skits, yeah if it's a simple misunderstanding will just take them a couple of minutes to let you know I'm sure too
[05:30] <skits> and thank you too ubottu btw. lol
[05:44] <sasaem> I'm curious to know how udev obtains and sets the ID_SERIAL environment variable for some of my disks.  I have a device for which a command like "udevadm info --attribute-walk --name $my_device | grep -i serial" returns nothing, but for which a command like "udevadm info --query=all --name $my_device | grep -i serial" returns an environment variable called "ID_SERIAL".  This environment variable, ID_SERIAL, is referenced in several o
[05:44] <sasaem> f my system's udev rules; it is used to generate symlinks.  I understand how that works.  But what I cannot figure out is how this environment variable is being set.   I have tried searching all the places I can think of where udev rules might be living, but I have found no places where this variable seems to be getting set.  Is there something obvious that I am missing?  Where is this environment variable set?
[05:55] <lickalott> hey all!  can I ask an vsftpd question in here?
[05:55]  * lickalott doesn't want to get anyone mad
[05:56] <sasaem> Does anyone know how udev generally sets the ID_SERIAL environment variable?  It's referenced in a lot of udev rules and I want to know how it is set.
[05:57] <Ben64> lickalott: depends kinda, but why ftp? its old, and not secure
[05:58] <lickalott> i have ip cameras that push "motion detected" pics to an ftp point.  So I am kind of stuck with ftp.
[05:59] <buzz_> Hello there, would someone help me with a boot issue on Ubuntu 14.04 on a Macbook?
[05:59] <EriC^^> buzz_: what's up?
[05:59] <Ben64> lickalott: ok, so whats the question
[05:59] <lickalott> I can log in/ftp in but when I do an ls i get ftp: connect: No route to host
[05:59] <MichaelTiebesl> hey hello, does anybody know why i cant play avi movies in ubuntu 15.04?
[05:59] <lickalott> i can traverse majority of the filesystem with no issue but whenever I try and accomplish an ls it give me that.
[06:00] <lickalott> do you think it could be something simple like port 20 being added to the firewall?
[06:00] <buzz_> I have installed Ubuntu as single boot without knowing the fact that grub wouldn't boot instantly and that I should use rEFIt or rEFInd. So now I'm stuck booting by inserting a USB key with rEFIt in it.
[06:01] <EriC^^> buzz_: oh, i dont know much about that
[06:03] <buzz_> Ok thanks, never mind, I'll ask the question elsewhere :)
[06:04] <EriC^^> somebody else might know here, hold on
[06:05] <buzz_> Alrighty
[06:09] <DylanRJ> orangemonkeyeagle
[06:12] <LonelyDanbo> can someone help me get my DVD drive playing in Xubuntu? I'm using an IDE controller card. I know this worked before in another Linux distro.
[06:14] <LonelyDanbo> I don't think it's even finding the drive. sudo lsblk -f only showed.... my HD and sr0 whatever that is.
[06:15] <LonelyDanbo> no wait. that probably is it.
[06:19] <LonelyDanbo> maybe my drive is just dead. I tried another disc and I can't play it either.
[06:21] <LonelyDanbo> I can't do this
[06:23] <sasaem> I think I've found the answer to my own question about how udev sets the ID_SERIAL for this mystery device which has no sysfs entry providing the ID_SERIAL.  The answer is: there is a udev rule which uses the IMPORT{program} assignment key to invoke a special program packaged with udev called ata_id, which queries the device directly for information such as the serial number (using a well known ATA protocol).  Good to know I'm not go
[06:23] <sasaem> ing crazy; I'm surprised to find that some information sometimes isn't surfaced in sysfs though :(
[06:25] <ineouck> slt
[06:27] <ineouck> bnjr matinal
[06:29] <it-pc> hi
[06:30] <it-pc> their is any one who have help me/
[06:30] <Ben64> it-pc: maybe, you'll just have to ask a question and see
[06:31] <it-pc> java runtime issue
[06:32] <Ben64> it-pc: that looks more like a statement
[06:32] <it-pc> error 500 SAP internal error
[06:33] <Ben64> it-pc: read this http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[06:33] <it-pc> ok i check link
[06:50] <lickalott> Ben64, any love on that ftp question?
[06:52] <chumpy__> Hello, I was wondering if a program exists that can execute files from a web page? I'd like to be able to install some programs on my VPS (voip, small games, etc) and enable friends to turn them on and off using a web interface?
[06:52] <histo> lickalott: what ftp server are you using?
[06:52] <lickalott> vsftpd
[06:52] <histo> lickalott: probably something with your configs
[06:53] <lickalott> i can post them if you're willing to look at them.  I've verified through multiple sites but I could still be missing something.
[06:53] <histo> lickalott: have you checked in #vsftpd
[06:53] <chumpy__> I installed gamepanelx but it's problematic and it wants to install the apps itself (and fails) whereby I can/have run them normally with no issue/just need to execute them using a web page. Perhaps something involving LAMPS I'm guessing
[06:53] <lickalott> like I said, I can connect fine and navigate the filesystem, but when I do an ls it gives me that error.
[06:54] <lickalott> yes sir.  i think everyone is dead or sleeping.  :D
[06:55] <lickalott> i have vsftpd running perfectly on an ubuntu server, I "diffed" the vsftpd.conf file between the two and there aren't any significant differences (minus version changes)
[06:55] <lickalott> I started to think it was a firewall issue, histo, but I added 20 and 21/tcp to the firewall and....no change
[06:56] <histo> lickalott: what ip camera do you have that relies on ftp btw?
[06:56] <lickalott> foscam
[06:57] <lickalott> you want the model number?
[06:57]  * lickalott knows ip cameras in general are not secure, coupled with ftp there was a significant security risk
[06:57] <lickalott> so I vlan'd them out on my router
[06:58] <lickalott> my next project is a pfsense box (atom proc)
[06:58] <histo> lickalott: what are they doing storing the video via ftp?
[06:59] <lickalott> just pictures at 5 second intervals when motion is detected.
[07:00] <lickalott> i can manually record if I want to (via a phone app or the webui) but that gets stored to the device i initiate on not the ftp location
[07:00] <lickalott> they were a groupon deal
[07:01] <histo> lickalott: do you have iptables rules enabled?
[07:01] <lickalott> whatever the default is with firewalld
[07:02] <lickalott> i haven't edited anything except adding some services and ports to the firewall
[07:02] <histo> lickalott: yeah try stopping iptables I bet it will work then
[07:03] <histo> lickalott: I found someone with the same issue, something about ip_conntrack_ftp kernel module not being loaded or something when iptables is running.
[07:03] <histo> lickalott: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/ftp-connect-no-route-to-host-244900/
[07:03] <lickalott> investigating now.  thank you sir!
[07:04] <histo> lickalott: something about firewall blockign passive mode transfers
[07:04] <histo> in centos
[07:04] <histo> lickalott: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vsftp+ls+command+error&t=ffab
[07:04] <histo> lickalott: sorry meant this link https://duckduckgo.com/?q=vsftpd+no+route+to+host&t=ffab&ia=qa
[07:05] <histo> chumpy__: what no?
[07:05] <histo> s/no/now
[07:05] <hplc> is kompozer the only one of its kind availble in the repo?
[07:06] <histo> hplc: what do you mean?
[07:06] <hplc> histo, well, wysiwyg web builders
[07:07] <histo> hplc: apt-cache search wysiwyg
[07:07] <lickalott> well....maybe I lied histo.  when I try to stop them i get "Failed to stop iptables.service: Unit iptables.service not loaded"
[07:07] <lickalott> most of those threads are having trouble even connecting.  I can connect fine.
[07:08] <lickalott> *not to say that I don't appreciate your help*
[07:08] <harishkrupo> hplc, here is a list of such applications http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML_editors
[07:09] <al3xprey> sup
[07:09] <hplc> harishkrupo, thanks :)
[07:09] <lickalott> disregard histo, just saw one that is having the same issue.
[07:10] <histo> lickalott: yeah I had to click around a few pages to find ones identical to yours.
[07:11] <cyberalex4life> hplc, aptana has now wysiwyg through eclipse plugins
[07:17] <uno1> alguien  por  ahi??
[07:19] <lickalott> histo, you rock!
[07:20] <lickalott> used this to ficks it - http://serverfault.com/questions/421161/how-to-configure-vsftpd-to-work-with-passive-mode
[07:20] <lickalott> *the firewall-cmd portion
[07:20] <lickalott> just incase anyone else needs it.
[07:21] <histo> lickalott: cool
[07:21] <lickalott> im out man.  take care
[07:21] <Giora> Hey is it possible to force Ubuntu to use unity2d instead of the 3d one?
[07:26] <al3xprey> yea sure
[07:26] <al3xprey> but i suggest you dont use unity
[07:26] <al3xprey> because it's utter shit
[07:26] <Giora> al3xprey: What would you suggest to use instead?
[07:27] <al3xprey> anything but this
[07:28] <somsip> Giora: what problems are you trying to avoid with ubity 3d? Too slow?
[07:29] <Giora> somsip: Lake of vram
[07:29] <Giora> lack*
[07:29] <somsip> !flavors | Giora (lubuntu and xubuntu tend to be better on low ram machines)
[07:29] <kurjy> hello
[07:31] <al3xprey> I suggest you go with MATE if you're going to use unity 2d
[07:31] <al3xprey> You'll grow fond of it in no time
[07:31] <kurjy> hello
[07:31] <kurjy> are you ok?
[07:31] <mrg98> Hello. Can anyone tell me what the EFI system partition is for? It's only 500Mb I'm not sure if I should be booting from it
[07:31] <somsip> kurjy: do you have a support question? This is not a chat channel
[07:32] <kurjy> ok
[07:32] <histo> !uefi | mrg98
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[07:43] <mach20x> My Ubuntu crashed, and now it appears to be crashing on every boot
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[07:43] <s9iper1> how can i make my  ubuntu laptop a web server with sftp ?
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[07:52] <s9iper1> i want to create server which have sftp protocol  and it would be be like a web server over internet how can i make it ?
[07:55] <EriC^^> s9iper1: you mean it should serve websites and allow users to upload with sftp?
[07:58] <mach20x> Anyone know how I should go about recovering my machine?
[07:59] <EriC^^> mach20x: recovering how?
[08:00] <s9iper1> EriC^^, yes it would upload files over internet with sftp
[08:00] <EriC^^> s9iper1: check here to see about limiting users to sftp https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/tools/limiting-access-with-sftp-jails-on-debian-and-ubuntu
[08:01] <EriC^^> !lamp | s9iper1 check here about to see about setting up a webserver so they can host websites
[08:01] <mach20x> EriC^^, When I try too boot my machine crashing at the boot screen (or at least the video driver is )
[08:01] <EriC^^> mach20x: try booting with nomodeset
[08:01] <EriC^^> how did this start?
[08:02] <mach20x> Abruptly while chatting on Facebook
[08:02] <s9iper1> right now i have sftp setup and i can upload file to it actually i am creating app in android which will upload file to sftp server. but its now locally.. i want it oover internet EriC^^
[08:03] <mach20x> I restarted, opened Firefox and then it crashed
[08:03] <EriC^^> s9iper1: i think it's the same thing, just instead of putting the local address you put the external ip address
[08:03] <mach20x> Its been crashing upon login ever since
[08:04] <EriC^^> mach20x: you mean after you login? or while it is still booting ubuntu?
[08:05] <mach20x> After boot of login screen, before I can input the password
[08:05] <mach20x> Running Ubuntu 14.10
[08:06] <EriC^^> mach20x: ok, try booting with nomodeset
[08:06] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | mach20x
[08:06] <s9iper1> EriC^^,  is there a way that i can get my laptop external ip ?
[08:06] <EriC^^> mach20x: or try booting an older kernel
[08:06] <al2o3-cr> s9iper1: curl ifconfig.me
[08:09] <EriC^^> s9iper1: open a terminal and type curl ipinfo.io
[08:10] <s9iper1> ok EriC^^
[08:10] <s9iper1> thank
[08:12] <mach20x> EriC^^, how do I apply nematodes?
[08:13] <EriC^^> :D
[08:13] <mach20x> Nomodeset
[08:13] <mach20x> Darn autocorrect :-P
[08:14] <PCatinean> How to only allow rw for all 3 groups at a time?
[08:14] <EriC^^> hold shift when the pc boots to get grub, and then press e, go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz .... quiet splash and add nomodeset at the end, then press ctrl+x
[08:14] <PCatinean> ah 666
[08:14] <mach20x> As you may see I am on the phone for irc here
[08:16] <EriC^^> mach20x: ah ok
[08:18] <teohhanhui> overlay scrollbars do not show thumb slider when moused over... what could be the problem?
[08:18] <EriC^^> teohhanhui: did you try the guest account?
[08:19] <s9iper1> EriC^^, curl  ifconfig.me  give me the ip but its same on both my machine connected to my router. is there any way that i find the exact ip for my laptop?
[08:20] <EriC^^> s9iper1: i think you have to setup port forwarding or something in that case
[08:20] <s9iper1> inside my sftp config ? EriC^^
[08:21] <s9iper1> or in my router ?
[08:21] <teohhanhui> @Eric^^ Thanks. It seems to be a HiDPI bug :(
[08:21] <teohhanhui> @EriC^^ Thanks. It seems to be a HiDPI bug :(
[08:21] <EriC^^> s9iper1: i think in your router, i don't know much about that
[08:21] <EriC^^> teohhanhui: oh
[08:24] <teohhanhui> EriC^^ do you know if the GNOME Shell has better HiDPI support? I've had to apply quite a number of workarounds with Unity
[08:25] <EriC^^> teohhanhui: i've no idea
[08:26] <mach20x> EriC^^  no crash but the resolution ins atrocious
[08:27] <mach20x> Did I do something wrong in the verbose?
[08:28] <ManoloMtnez> Hello, an Ubuntu user is reporting the following issue with a little program of mine: https://github.com/manolomartinez/greg/issues/29
[08:28] <ManoloMtnez> is it normal  that /bin/python does not exist?
[08:28] <Giora> ManoloMtnez: yes
[08:29] <al2o3-cr> ManoloMtnez: yeah should /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/env python
[08:29] <mollusk> Anyone here know about HDMI in and how I can display the rapberry pi output through it?
[08:30] <mollusk> This computer has a built in HDMI input and I am trying to push the rpi output to something like vlc
[08:30] <mollusk> I have enabled vdpau codec in vlc but I am not sure what to do next
[08:30] <ManoloMtnez> Giora: thanks. Any idea of what's the right way to set things up in setup.py to avoid this problem?
[08:31] <ManoloMtnez> mollusk: read up on xrandr
[08:31] <ManoloMtnez> xrandr --output HDMI-0 or some similar incantation should work, I guess.
[08:31] <Giora> Install python 2.7/3 depends on your needs
[08:32] <EriC^^> mach20x: ok, type cat /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:32] <ManoloMtnez> Giora: that's not what I was asking. Thanks asyway :)
[08:32] <EriC^^> mach20x: it could be a new kernel or graphics driver that are causing the problem after an upgrade
[08:33] <mollusk> ManoloMtnez, Would that be the command I type on the pi or the desktop?
[08:33] <EriC^^> mach20x: type the link you get here
[08:33] <mollusk> I assume the pi
[08:33] <zero> first time on IRC
[08:33] <sveta> welcome
[08:33] <Guest99142> thanx
[08:34] <ManoloMtnez> mollusk: on the pi
[08:34] <Guest99142> is there any help window ?
[08:34] <mollusk> ManoloMtnez, Do I even need vlc on the desktop to receive the output or will it "just work?"
[08:34] <mollusk> I don'tknow what to expect
[08:35] <ManoloMtnez> mollusk: I don't know either :)
[08:35] <mollusk> ManoloMtnez, Well you may have put me on the right track
[08:35] <mollusk> ManoloMtnez, than you
[08:35] <mollusk> thank you
[08:36] <mach20x> EriC^^ shall I type it in the terminal?
[08:36] <EriC^^> mach20x: yeah
[08:36] <histo> Guest99142: what?
[08:37] <Guest99142> I am seeking for help window to learn basics of IRC
[08:37] <ManoloMtnez> mollusk: no problem, I hope you figure it out
[08:37] <ManoloMtnez> :help
[08:37] <ManoloMtnez> Guest99142: sorry, I meant /help
[08:37] <Guest99142> ok thanx @MonoloMtnez  :)
[08:37] <histo> Guest99142: this is a ubuntu support channel
[08:39] <mach20x> EriC^^ http://termbin.com/frmd   was the output
[08:42] <EriC^^> mach20x: ok, type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:43] <EriC^^> mach20x: when did the problem start?
[08:44] <EriC^^> the graphics driver was updated on june 4
[08:44] <dacracker> hi
[08:45] <histo> dacracker: hello
[08:45] <mach20x> EriC^^  output: use netcat
[08:50] <____4> #youtube-dl
[08:51] <mach20x> EriC^^ I upgraded on the 4th I'm sure. I was gone all weekend, starting Friday, and only experienced these problems tonight
[08:52] <EriC^^> mach20x: did you reboot since the upgrade?
[08:52] <knobo> My xscreensaver glslideshow does not change images. It only uses one from the directory specified.
[08:52] <turambar> hi. i just configured a 4th partition in my system. what do i have to do to make the partition appear under /dev?
[08:53] <mach20x> A few times
[08:54] <Linux93991> is chromium-browser the same as chrome in ubuntu?
[08:57] <Linux93991> is chromium-browser just another name for chrome?
[08:57] <Linux93991> as in google chrome
[08:57] <sveta> no
[08:57] <sveta> chromium-browser is another name for the free (libre, meaning released properly) part of google chrome
[08:58] <sveta> which is like 99% of it, but still not the whole thing
[08:58] <Linux93991> ok thanks
[08:59] <excalibas> Hello, I just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and now ubuntu doesnt start (I get a black screen) Can someone help me to debug please I dont want to lose what I have on the drive
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset } excalibas, try
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | excalibas, try
[09:01] <YamakasY> ok, so my whole mem is filled up but top doesn't show it
[09:01] <EriC^^> mach20x: ok, type sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[09:03] <EriC^^> mach20x: or install pastebinit, it'll be easier, sudo apt-get install pastebinit , then sudo pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[09:04] <ktechmidas> pastebinit works again?
[09:04] <ktechmidas> yay
[09:05] <mach20x> EriC^^  output: http://sprunge.us/eAYZ
[09:06] <Unhammer> anyone got any tips on this https://askubuntu.com/questions/632591/system-does-not-power-off-on-poweroff-just-halts ? am starting to think there's not much I can do about it :/
[09:06] <NicholasCage> Ehrm.. I can't find my /etc/hosts/ file that HowToGeek says I have..
[09:06] <NicholasCage> does that mean I should make one from scratch or .. ?
[09:07] <sveta> drop the last slash
[09:09] <EriC^^> mach20x: ok, type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[09:11] <SubCool> its been a hwile since i hvae done a upgrade to ubuntu, Im about to do it from remote, (across the us) is it suggested? or am i going ot be prmopted for something.
[09:12] <cfhowlett> SubCool, sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade *should* do i
[09:12] <mach20x> EriC^^  output: http://sprunge.us/ZcaR
[09:12] <SubCool> yeah, but if im prompted or soemthing, im screwed.
[09:13] <k1l> SubCool: cfhowlett "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[09:13] <k1l> SubCool: what do you mean with "if ia m prompted"?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> k1l, thank you, right!  I use that command so rarely I get it wrong
[09:15] <SubCool> k1l, if im prompted for anything. If during the reboot, the machine requires any kind of achknowledgement from the user side, i wont have access. i am teamviewered and ssh'd in right now.
[09:15] <k1l> dont use teamviewer for upgrade. use ssh.
[09:15] <kurjy> yeah
[09:16] <k1l> and its not prompted after reboot for the upgrade. its still the same booting procedure as it was before.
[09:16] <excalibas> cfhowlett, Didnt work :(
[09:16] <kurjy> :)
[09:16] <SubCool> ok, great. Thanks for the info.
[09:16] <cfhowlett> excalibas, sudo do-release-upgrade is the correct command as k1l advised.  my mistake earlier, sorry
[09:16] <excalibas> cfhowlett, The last thing on my screen before the blank is "plymouthd could not start boot splash"
[09:17] <excalibas> cfhowlett,
[09:17] <cfhowlett> excalibas, booting 12.04?
[09:17] <excalibas> cfhowlett, That is the command I made but now I cant write commands because ubuntu doesnt start
[09:17] <cfhowlett> excalibas, are you booting 12.04??
[09:18] <excalibas> cfhowlett, I had ubuntu 12.04 and did do-release-upgrade to try to get 14.04
[09:18] <excalibas> and now it is like this
[09:18] <Slaizer> Hi, I have a circumstance that I  would like to get solved. I can't use Ubuntu because my Qualcomm Atheros Device 003e (rev 20) isn't compatible with Linux, and I can't use windows 8.1 because my touchpad isn't recognized. What operating system should I use, to get the my system functioning with touchpad and wifi, and get a good OS?
[09:19] <k1l> SubCool: from which to which ubuntu do you want to upgrade?
[09:19] <SCHAAP137> Slaizer, probably you're just missing a device driver for the touchpad @ win8.1
[09:19] <SubCool> i forget the command.. im on either 12 or 14
[09:19] <k1l> SubCool:  lsb_release -a
[09:19] <cfhowlett> excalibas, so you're now attempting to boot 14.04         ... correct??
[09:20] <Slaizer> SCHAAP137, i can't get my touchpad functioning during install. How do I get by this?
[09:20] <k1l> SubCool: if you dont know if you ware on 12.04 or 14.04, why you want to upgrade in a rush anyway?
[09:20] <SubCool> im trying to use stuff, and im being held back by release stuff
[09:20] <Slaizer> SCHAAP137, external mouse? my only option? during install?
[09:20] <SCHAAP137> hmm, use a mouse during install Slaizer, and afterwards search for the correct drivers online
[09:21] <excalibas> cfhowlett, If the upgrade worked it is correct
[09:21] <SubCool> small but annoying example is dropbox. it simply refuses to work, but i know once im updated.. it will.
[09:21] <SCHAAP137> it's probably either a Synaptics of ALPS touchpad
[09:21] <SCHAAP137> *or
[09:21] <k1l> SubCool: that is false.
[09:22] <SubCool> if you can help make it work, alone with onedrive.. ill forever be greatful
[09:22] <mach20x> EriC^^ the login screen hears always flickered upon boot, and I have mouse cursor flicker for months. Idk if any of that helps
[09:22] <mach20x> Has not hears
[09:23] <Slaizer> SCHAAP137, OK
[09:23] <cfhowlett> excalibas, not 100% how this works on a remote, but if you can boot to terminal, you might try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:24] <SubCool> k1l, ive followed a couple of the basic aid's and guides.. ive had it. lol. simply things like to just not work.
[09:25] <rymate1234> didn't get an answer from #kubuntu so trying here: I have a small issue when trying to configure my monitor placement when using the official AMD drivers for my intel / amd hybrid graphics laptop - image of issue is http://i.imgur.com/qHZYHQu.jpg
[09:25] <LibertyWeNeed1> does the FSF have a video tutorial of setting up GPG?
[09:25] <excalibas> cfhowlett, In safe mode I can "Drop to root shell prompt" I will try
[09:25] <cfhowlett> excalibas, also, the #ubuntu-server channel has lots of remote experienced types
[09:26] <k1l> SubCool: onedrive and dropbox are to totally different services.
[09:26] <SubCool> yeah, i know. but neither work.
[09:26] <k1l> LibertyWeNeed1: well, ask the fsf for that :)
[09:26] <LibertyWeNeed1> SubCool, give MEGA.co.nz a go
[09:26] <k1l> LibertyWeNeed1: but there should be a written howto for ubuntu. what is the issue with that?
[09:27] <k1l> !details | SubCool
[09:27] <SubCool> this is a very simple box, with like 2gb of ram. its a basic machine meant for me to access so i can do other things on myhome network.
[09:27] <k1l> SubCool: what ubuntu are you on? what doesnt work on dropbox?
[09:27] <SubCool> It doesnt run. Let me do a few commands and show you the output.
[09:27] <LibertyWeNeed1> k1l, I am trying to find a quick easy way to explain how to setup GPG on Ubuntu GNU/Linux
[09:28] <mwludarski> Hi, I have perfromance problem in game on Ubuntu 15.04
[09:28] <histo> mwludarski: what game? What performance problem?
[09:29] <gier_do> Slaizer, have you tried this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1383184/comments/115 ?
[09:29] <SubCool> im on 12.04.5
[09:30] <mwludarski> Histo: In all games I have around 20-30FPS, I checked performance in Witcher 2,CS:GO,War Thunder etc. I don't use Wine for games
[09:30] <Slaizer> gier_do, I don't have exactly that Qualcomm Atheros card, I have the Qualcomm Atheros Device 003e (rev 20)
[09:31] <excalibas> cfhowlett, ssh is working I didnt :) thought about that I will try to update
[09:31] <mach20x> EriC^^  I'll just shut it down and sleep for now
[09:32] <cfhowlett> mwludarski, what GPU?
[09:32] <tete_> when i try to run speaker-test -c2 -Dfront i get: ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
[09:32] <tete_> aplay -l starts with card 1, not with card 0
[09:33] <gier_do> Slaizer, according to the bug description, the Qualcomm Atheros Device 003 (rev 20) is the Atheros Qualcomm Killer N1525 Wireless-AC
[09:33] <mwludarski> Cfhowlett: Radeon 7610m 2GB in Hybrid with Intel
[09:33] <tete_> so i created /etc/asound.conf with pcm.!default { type hw; card 1 } and ctl.!default { type hw; card 1 }
[09:34] <Slaizer> gier_do, "is the Atheros Qualcomm Killer N1525 Wireless-AC", and how do I know if I have this?
[09:34] <histo> mwludarski: probably not using the ati portion of your card
[09:35] <cfhowlett> !amd | mwludarski, I've read that hybrid gpu's are a bit hinky to set up ...
[09:35] <SubCool> k1l, ok you might be right, but im pretty sure ive done this before. ic ant get the app to present a popup that allows me to link my account.
[09:35] <gier_do> Slaizer, what is the exact type of your laptop? Brand, model etc?
[09:36] <k1l> SubCool: install "nautilus-dropbox"
[09:36] <Slaizer> gier_do, Acer Aspire Nitro VN7-791G
[09:36] <SubCool> done that.
[09:37] <SubCool> ive been playing with dropbox start - autostart.. and all that. ive doen this before months ago, but i really need it working now so i can move on to another aspect of my sever.
[09:37] <cfhowlett> !ati | mwludarski
[09:37] <mwludarski> Histo I choose AMD card in CCC to use,
[09:37] <SubCool> i know im being a bit vagure, im sorry.
[09:38] <k1l> SubCool: so its a server? or a desktop we are talking about?
[09:38] <SubCool> its a desktop, but next to the computer is another computer, tht im using as a freenas server.
[09:38] <gagalicious> what's the best way to organize your desktop folders for personal use... and also company?
[09:38] <gagalicious> is there a ubuntu 16 out there?
[09:39] <k1l> gagalicious: the numbering is: XX.YY where XX is the year and YY is the month. there is a release every april and every october.
[09:39] <mwludarski> I installed AMD driver  in same way like in this site
[09:40] <k1l> SubCool: iirc you should get a prompt after the package install. but i dont know if that teamviewer thing is the issue there
[09:41] <SubCool> yeah it should, but i ahvent seen that in a long time. im going to uninstall it and reinstall it. but- even when it did do it the first time, after areboot it doesnt work agian.
[09:42] <k1l> SubCool: there are thousands of users not having that issues. so there must be something wrong on your setup.
[09:43] <SubCool> yeah i know..
[09:43] <cfhowlett> gagalicious, no
[09:43] <gagalicious> ok
[09:44] <k1l> SubCool: so without specific errormessages or logfiles showing what the issue is, its very hard to help there
[09:45] <SubCool> yeah i know. The issue is just being annoying. I start the service, it says done. i do dropbox status, and it says its not running. I just rant dropbox status as root, and it says it need to be linked to an account. but there are no optins to link it. I think i foudn a guide that can help me go through that, so im trying it now.
[09:46] <k1l> you dont need to give it root rights
[09:46] <k1l> that could already have spoiled the config files
[09:48] <SubCool> http://www.dropboxwiki.com/tips-and-tricks/install-dropbox-in-an-entirely-text-based-linux-environment
[09:48] <SubCool> im stuck on #5
[09:48] <SubCool> i didnt install it as root, i was just logged in via ssh and forgot iw as root. and ran dropbox. either way, i've removed it and reinstalled it.
[09:49] <SubCool> but now when i run ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd
[09:49] <SubCool> , i get segment fault (core dump)
[09:50] <k1l> SubCool: i am just showing you what can lead to your special situation where dropbox is not working while it works for all other users. you dont need to find excuses but work on the issues.
[09:52] <k1l> SubCool: see cat /etc/locale.conf  what the LANG is set to
[09:52] <k1l> or better : cat /etc/default/locale
[09:53] <SubCool> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
[09:53] <k1l> so its not null
[09:57] <SubCool> The stupidest stuff never works for me.
[09:57] <SubCool> how can somethign so simple NOT work.
[09:59] <excalibas> cfhowlett, It works now Thanks a lot :D
[10:02] <xeon123> I am using thunderbird, but I am not quite happy with it. I have tried to use mutt or even the gmail interface, but the problem is that I have multiple accounts. I am looking for a better mail reader than thunderbird. Do you have any suggestions?
[10:03] <SubCool> i did a reboot, and connected via ssh. Now i ahve a link to supply.
[10:03] <SubCool> I wish i could do a full fresh install.
[10:06] <SubCool> ok, im a step closer- so i think. :/
[10:14] <SubCool> Ok.. so i did this... to kinda work around a folder location thing.
[10:14] <SubCool> ln -s <dir-that-you-want-to-sync> ~/Dropbox
[10:15] <SubCool> so... will that make a copy in the ~/dropbox folder AND the /mnt/Storage/etc - or just the new linked folder?
[10:15] <SubCool> cool, nvm..
[10:16] <SubCool> wait. maybe it didnt do what i wanted...
[10:17] <SubCool> oh- i did it backwards..
[10:19] <SubCool> yeah,, sorry can someone ehlp me just incase i delete something i dont want to?
[10:20] <SubCool> sudo rm /mnt/Storage/Pictures/InComplete/Dropbox/ Will this remove the symlink or delete the folder?
[10:21] <Ben64> can you explain more whats going on currently? pastebin anything relevant
[10:21] <SubCool> HEY BEN!!
[10:22] <SubCool> this is the command i did: ln -s /mnt/Storage/Pictures/InComplete/Dropbox ~/Dropbox/
[10:22] <SubCool> but i did it backwards..
[10:22] <SubCool> so how do i remove the symlink.
[10:22] <Ben64> i'm not sure what you mean backwards
[10:22] <SubCool> they locations are reversed
[10:22] <SubCool> the*
[10:22] <Ben64> pastebin "ls -ld /mnt/Storage/Pictures/InComplete/Dropbox ~/Dropbox"
[10:25] <SubCool> http://pastebin.com/XH0HDEvv
[10:25] <SubCool> i have tho fix that jonny thing.. ugh. i hate this box.
[10:28] <Ben64> neither of those are symlinks from the look of it
[10:28] <SubCool> i know i just created it- and it links to my network drive..
[10:29] <SubCool> when i open ~/dropbox  i see the contents of the /mnt/storage/picture/etc
[10:29] <SubCool> now its syncing my drive to dropbox..
[10:30] <Ben64> but ~/Dropbox isn't a link
[10:31] <moty66> hello, I need some help with installing ubuntu from USB stick, the installing process is finished, but I can't install the boot, because the installer want to install it in sda which is the usb stick, my HD is sdb. How can I fix that?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> moty66, grub will install where you send it.  select the correct device
[10:32] <llutz> SubCool: you havegot new symlinks under ~/dropbox if both dirs existed before
[10:32] <SubCool> yeah. i do.
[10:32] <SubCool> thats whats confusing me.
[10:32] <SubCool> how do i undo the symlink... without deleteing my stuff.
[10:32] <llutz> SubCool: why? its what you told ln to do
[10:32] <llutz> SubCool: rm path/symlink
[10:32] <EriC^^> moty66: you could try reinstalling and choosing the bootloader's location at the bottom in the Something else menu, and choosing where to install ubuntu too
[10:33] <SubCool> llutz, because i did it backawards..
[10:33] <EriC^^> moty66: select the proper mountpoints and everything and partition
[10:33] <llutz> SubCool: no because you told ln to symlink dirs which already exist
[10:33] <SubCool> this is the command
[10:33] <SubCool>  ln -s /mnt/Storage/Pictures/InComplete/Dropbox ~/Dropbox/
[10:33] <Ben64> SubCool: once again, neither of those directories are links
[10:33] <llutz> SubCool: yes and both have been existing before
[10:34] <SubCool> its suppsoed to be ln -s ~/dropbox /mnt/storage/etc
[10:34] <SubCool> right...
[10:34] <moty66> cfhowlett, EriC^^: maybe I did something wrong during the partitioning, grub does not let me choose where to install the boot
[10:34] <llutz> ln -s ~/dropbox /mnt/storage/etc    will create a symlink /mnt/storage/etc/dropbox
[10:35] <moty66> when I do fdisk -l, I see that the boot flag is selected for the USB stick
[10:35] <llutz> SubCool: ^
[10:35] <EriC^^> moty66: at the bottom it should say bootloader location and a drop down menu
[10:35] <SubCool> which is fine, but i need to UNDO the symlink i created.
[10:35] <cfhowlett> moty66, try this . NO bootloader.  then boot your USB again and install grub
[10:35] <llutz> SubCool: rm path/symlink
[10:35] <cfhowlett> !grub | moty66
[10:35] <Ben64> SubCool: but none of the files you mentioned so far are links, so beware
[10:36] <EriC^^> moty66: http://i.stack.imgur.com/LjMlH.png
[10:36] <EriC^^> at the bottom
[10:36] <SubCool> so rm /mnt/Storage/Pictures/InComplete/Dropbox?
[10:36] <SubCool> and wont doing that delete my stuff?
[10:36] <EriC^^> "Device for bootloader installation"
[10:36] <Ben64> no
[10:36] <Ben64> SubCool: you haven't been listening :|
[10:36] <SubCool> im confused..
[10:36] <SubCool> thats why im still asking, and not pressing enter and delteing a lot of stuff
[10:37] <Ben64> right, you're still asking, but you're not listening
[10:37] <Ben64> the link might be in one of the folders you mentioned, but the two you've shown aren't links
[10:38] <SubCool> i can see a link...
[10:38] <llutz> SubCool: find path/ -type l
[10:38] <SubCool> subcool@Mediaserver:~$ find path/ -type 1
[10:38] <SubCool> find: Unknown argument to -type: 1
[10:39] <moty66> EriC^^: in the partition page, I see the B flag is located on the USB stick
[10:39] <SubCool> ls -ld right?
[10:39] <llutz> SubCool: replace path/ with actual path, and its a lowercase L not a one 1
[10:39] <Ben64> SubCool: its a lowercase L, not a 1
[10:40] <cfhowlett> moty66, of course, otherwise no boot.   change the device and part
[10:40] <SubCool> i can see one of the links..
[10:40] <SubCool> i just renamed the /mnt/storeage/picture to /mnt/storage/backpictures
[10:40] <SubCool> which shouldve killed the link.. and from what ic an see (gui) it did.
[10:41] <SubCool> Now evverythign in ~/dropbox is the stuff from my cloud dropbox.
[10:42] <moty66> cfhowlett: it is not clear to me, it seems that I am missing something
[10:42] <moty66> cfhowlett: I rebooted and I am trying to install the system without boot
[10:43] <SubCool> im sorry that this is frustrating yous, but- i know RM can be deadly...
[10:43] <llutz> SubCool: rm without -r won't remove directories, use -i to make really sure
[10:44] <SubCool> so rm -i ~/Dropbox
[10:44] <Ben64> thats not a link
[10:45] <SubCool> from what i cansee, the link is IN ~/Dropbox
[10:45] <SubCool> now im dumb to this- so bare with me. ~/Dropbox/Dropbox.link
[10:45] <SubCool> thats what isee.
[10:45] <llutz> SubCool: if you can see that, why do you try to remove ~/Dropbox then?
[10:46] <SubCool> asking before deleting.. thats why
[10:46] <Ben64> it shouldn't be called dropbox.link ...
[10:46] <SubCool> i know- thats why i said bare with me.
[10:46] <SubCool> how do i view it ? ls -i
[10:47] <llutz> ls -l
[10:48] <SubCool> bingo
[10:48] <SubCool> http://pastebin.com/t9UeD1E8
[10:50] <madrid> hey
[10:50] <fps> hi, is there a way to get a list of all those packages that have not been installed as a dependency of another?
[10:51] <fps> since it's hard to get a list of user installed packages (explicitly apt-get install'ed for example) i wondered if that might be a way to get at least something similar
[10:51] <SubCool> Thank you.. FInally.
[10:51] <SubCool> we got it.
[10:51] <SubCool> Ok.. So how do i do it correctly then?
[10:51] <madrid> Im hot
[10:52] <bazhang> madrid, ubuntu support question?
[10:52] <madrid> Can somebody suck my dick?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> thanks jpds
[10:52] <Osz> There is no such alternative for Microsoft Visual studio on linux?
[10:53] <SubCool> ln -s ~/Dropbox /mnt/Storage/Pictures/InComplete/Dropbox   ---- i want anything thats comes in from dropbox to go to my storage. Not locally Will this do it?
[10:53] <fps> Osz: depends on what you want to do and what features you need
[10:53] <fps> Osz: for some people the commands echo and gcc are good enough
[10:53] <fps> for others not :)
[10:53] <llutz> SubCool: not while ~/Dropbox exists
[10:54] <llutz> SubCool: argh, forget me.
[10:54] <llutz> SubCool: why don't you configure dropbox to use /mnt/blahbla/ directly?
[10:54] <Osz> fps: I want to build web app, I have already started with ASP.Net but cant continue due to the lack of support
[10:55] <SubCool> llutz, its being stupid.. and all igot is CLI
[10:55] <SubCool> its been a LONG journey.
[10:56] <SubCool> for something sooo simple and stupid- so trust me.. i get it. but..im  done fighting it.
[10:56] <fps> Osz: ok, there is about a million ways to create web apps :)
[10:56] <moty66> cfhowlett: I rebooted and I am trying to make a new fresh install, if I need help then I'll ask again, thank you
[10:57] <brainwash> fps: apt-mark showmanual
[10:57] <cfhowlett> moty66, take your time, this is fixable
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !manual
[10:57] <rymate1234> Osz: if you know javascript there's a few ways to make web apps with javascript
[10:57] <fps> Osz: ruby on rails, node.js, django, etc, ppp
[10:57] <fps> brainwash: oh nice :)
[10:58] <llutz> SubCool:so to get your symlink, use:  ln -s ~/Dropbox /mnt/Storage/Pictures/InComplete/
[10:58] <SubCool> ty
[10:58] <SubCool> Says file exists
[10:59] <SubCool> ill rename the existing folder. I like it better that way anyway. i have stuff on my cloud i dont want in that directory, but thismakes it easier to manage. freenas is great, and a pain.
[11:00] <llutz> SubCool: but wait, you want the real files being in /mnt/storage..../ and ~/Dropbox jsut bein a link?  then remove ~/Dropbox and "ln -s /mnt/storage/whatever/Dropbox ~/Dropbox"
[11:00] <SubCool> ok
[11:01] <SubCool> so i was right the first time, just had dropbox  in the wrong place..
[11:01] <SubCool> would it be 'ln -s /mnt/storage/whatever/Dropbox ~/'
[11:02] <SubCool> i did that your command last time, and it put the link as ~/dropbox/dropbox.link
[11:02] <llutz> SubCool because ~/Dropbox already existed
[11:02] <SubCool> ok
[11:03] <foomanchoo> could someone please help me with iscsitarget? upon starting iscsitarget, ubuntu 14.04 complains there is no module iscsi_trgt...
[11:03] <mikubuntu> day 5 in the saga of the hp mini 1000 -- today we'll see if xubuntu 1204 has any better luck playing with the mini. last thing i did before sleeping last nite was to download the OS. now i'll burn to a usb, and report whether or not i can get mini's broadcom bcm4312 to communicate with the interwebs.
[11:03] <cfhowlett> !broadcom | mikubuntu
[11:05] <foomanchoo> it appears SCST is not in the repo's anymore either...
[11:05] <SubCool> Thanks Ben64
[11:05] <SubCool> Thanks Llutz
[11:05]  * maxb got a BCM4312 in an Acer Aspire One D150 working under 14.04 yesterday, it required nothing more than apt-get-ing the right things
[11:07] <maxb> mikubuntu: Why use an already superseded LTS release?
[11:09] <mikubuntu> thx cfhowlett
[11:09] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, happy2help!
[11:10] <SubCool> I hate when they do this crap..
[11:10] <SubCool> Ok.. so since this is a source install... its not linked properly.
[11:10] <SubCool> https://www.dropbox.com/install?os=lnx
[11:11] <SubCool> atthe bottom, it says to download some script, and then create a symlink anywhere in path.
[11:11] <SubCool> HOW?
[11:13] <mikubuntu> maxb: lub 1404, and ub 1404 both presented problems. ub1404 apparently too heavy on the little box's resources, hung up terribly; lub 1404 had a black screen issue that wouldn't allow me to get past the splash screen. lub 1204 booted through, but would not recognize either a wired, nor a wireless connection.
[11:13] <SubCool> im sorry to be soo supoer noob at this.. pelase.. someone help..
[11:17] <fidel_> SubCool: you are trying a headless dropbox install and are unable to follow the instructions on the drobox website?
[11:17] <mikubuntu> maxb: with regard to the black screen issue,t  we tried various kernel string tweaks, like running w/o nomodeset, acpi OFF, forcepae, etc to no avail. i would naturally prefer the more current OS, but if we cant get the mini to play nice, i'll settle for what i can get
[11:19] <SubCool> fidel_, basically -
[11:20] <fidel_> SubCool: and you are struggling at which point?
[11:20] <SubCool> its ok.. we kinda did a work around
[11:21] <fidel_> roger
[11:21] <SubCool> i dont know how to do some of the basic that it requires.. like symlink..
[11:21] <SubCool> so- im getting it.. thanks though :)
[11:23] <leeyaa> hello
[11:23] <leeyaa> anyone here used barkeep ?
[11:27] <Luyin> hi, I'm wondering about this information I get by aptitude: Version: 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.1 since okular is versioned in the form 0.[0-9]* . so which okular version am I going to have after installation?
[11:28] <tado> Hey - i have trouble mounting an external USB stick. Error is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11670210/ anyone understands it? :/
[11:31] <mikubuntu> xubuntu took forever to download last nite, and seemed to take a long time to write to stick with startup disk creator just now, but it says its complete. i'm going in.
[11:37] <zprd> hum updated from tls to next release
[11:38] <zprd> no more intell driver
[11:38] <zprd> :/
[11:38] <zprd> bad surprise
[11:38] <zprd> now upgrading to the last release
[11:39] <bamboozle> hi. i just installed ubuntu gnome. everything works great but the fonts appear awfully blurry compared to what i'm used to with fedora/opensuse. what might be the reason?
[11:39] <gojira_akin> Is there any way to add touchscreen/tablet support and general features to ubuntu?
[11:39] <gojira_akin> Something like what win 8 does with tables. e.g on screen keyboard when needed
[11:39] <mikubuntu> 8 minutes for xub to load to live desktop. now to check wireless, fingers crossed.
[11:40] <zprd> crossing fingers for mikubuntu
[11:41] <Luyin> hi, I'm wondering about this information I get by aptitude with "aptitude show okular": Version: 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.1 since okular is versioned in the form 0.[0-9]* . so which okular version am I going to have after installation?
[11:45] <innopark> hi everyone
[11:46] <innopark> My ubuntu 14.04 is frequently hanging
[11:46] <innopark> could someone help me
[11:48] <moty66> cfhowlett: I still can't install the boot on sdb :(
[11:48] <Wsiyolae> hi
[11:48] <cfhowlett> moty66, why?  error msg?
[11:48] <moty66> The installer keeps trying to install it on SDA which is the usb stick
[11:48] <chotaz`w> What everybody using for Google Drive while google doesnt come up with a native linux client?
[11:48] <WildMinion> innopark: Hardware/Systems specs?
[11:49] <k1l> chotaz`w: there is grive
[11:49] <cfhowlett> moty66, install  with no bootloader, reboot the USB then install grub
[11:49] <moty66> cfhowlett: I selected the partition of sdb and selected the option use the entire drive
 4gb ram
[11:49] <moty66> cfhowlett: this what I did
 500hdd
[11:49] <mikubuntu> dad blast it. xubuntu not recognising signal from wired eth0, so there's no hope for wireless either, unless maybe someone could help me figure out how to enable the bcm4312 driver without a wired connection. pavlos was concerned last nite that lubuntu wasn't able to recognize the wired connection, and asked me to boot in to xp which is the system i'm trying to replace on mini. in xp, both wired and wireless work seamlessly.
 ubuntu14.04
[11:49] <moty66> cfhowlett: I can't even do that from the shell, grub-installer /dev/sdb
[11:50] <cfhowlett> mikubuntu, read the broadcom link.  there's a "no connection" option
[11:50] <WildMinion> innopark: Please use one line instead of multiple lines, this will spam the channel
[11:50] <moty66> cfhowlett: do I have to try LILO ?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> moty66, that's another option.  worth trying
[11:51] <moty66> cfhowlett: Yes, lilo is telling me where I want to install the boot :)
 3.13.0-37-generic
 sorry
[11:51] <mikubuntu> something i wonder about, that hp mini 1000 has a wireless 'disabling' (hard) switch on the front of the machine -- could that switch be interfering with linux configurations?
[11:52] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: ok, lemme look at it again.
[11:52] <moty66> cfhowlett: it is really annoying problem with the installer! do I have to report that as a bug?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> moty66, you don't *have to* report ...it, but should feel so inclined
[11:53] <chotaz`w> k1l, you have any experience with grive? I've installed it, generated the token but the app itself is nowhere
[11:54] <innopark> hi <WildMinion>
[11:54] <k1l> chotaz`w: i tried it once and it worked. but it is not as good as the dropbox client if you want that service
[11:55] <moty66> cfhowlett: system is booting normally with LILO :D
[11:55] <cfhowlett> moty66, do what u gotta do.
[11:55] <moty66> cfhowlett: at this point I'll try to install grub2
[11:55] <k1l> chotaz`w: ah wait. since april 2015 grive is gone. now there seems to be grive2
[11:57] <WildMinion> innopark: What CPU you have?
[11:57] <shibu_> HY.
[11:57] <moty66> cfhowlett: ahahha, lilo can't find sdb1, the system call it now sda1 :(
[11:57] <shibu_> How to install a photoshop in ubunut guys
[11:57] <WildMinion> innopark: And what applications are hanging?
[11:58] <k1l> !wine | shibu_
[11:58] <cfhowlett> shibu_, install gimp;.
[11:58] <shibu_> Ok i have a gimp
[11:58] <innopark> Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5700 @ 3.00GHz <WildMinion>
[11:58] <k1l> shibu_: a native linux alternative is gimp.
[11:58] <shibu_> But i don't know how to use?
[11:58] <shibu_> Plesase help me
[11:58] <shibu_> Please help me
[11:58] <cfhowlett> shibu_, you learned photoshop.  learn gimp.
[11:59] <cfhowlett> !gimp | shibu_
[11:59] <WildMinion> shibu_: There is a "Help" button ;)
[11:59] <shibu_> Ok ok
[11:59] <shibu_> So what is the best education application for ubuntu
[11:59] <shibu_> I want to education application
[11:59] <shibu_> PLease
[11:59] <mikubuntu> cfhowlett: ok, i read it but its a little complicated for me -- my live media is a usb, and not a cdrom, does that change the commandline for extracting the drivers from within the install media?
[11:59] <innopark> its not particular about any application. Complete desktop gets freezes even ctrl+alt+f1 is not working
[11:59] <cfhowlett> shibu_, education in what?
[11:59] <WildMinion> innopark: Your system specs looks good. What applications are hanging?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> !edubuntu | shibu_
[12:00] <WildMinion> innopark: After a while you using the PC, or after the login?
[12:00] <innopark> wildminion: after a while
[12:00] <shibu_> It is best for collages student
[12:01] <shibu_> I mean edubuntu is best for collage student
[12:01] <WildMinion> innopark: What graphic card vendir? Nvidia? AMD? Intel?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> shibu_, tell you what.  install ubuntu and see for yourself.  it's free
[12:01] <WildMinion> *vendor
[12:02] <shibu_> Ok thanks...
[12:02] <WildMinion> innopark: Are any errors logged in /var/log/kern.log ?
[12:02] <shibu_> I am looking for keylogger for ubuntu what is the good key logger?
[12:02] <WildMinion> shibu_: Keylogger for what?
[12:03] <Det87> to spy on people
[12:03] <Det87> obviously
[12:03] <shibu_> NO no
[12:03] <WildMinion> I thought so ...
[12:03] <shibu_> I don't want to spy...
[12:03] <shibu_> I am just trying to watch my brother and sister what she doing in my pc?
[12:03] <Det87> set a password
[12:03] <shibu_> What they doing on my pc?
[12:03] <WildMinion> Don't let them to your PC :P
[12:03] <Det87> or create a new account
[12:03] <cfhowlett> shibu_, yeah, that's called ... spying
[12:04] <shibu_> Ok...
[12:04] <WildMinion> shibu_: create a new account without sudo permissions
[12:05] <ReScO> hey people, i am trying to create a little bash script to add users to my database, i have to execute multiple lines of SQL queries, how can i feed a multi-line SQL query into the mysql command?
[12:05] <WildMinion> shibu_: Or activate/use the internal guest account
[12:05] <ReScO> use a \ ?
[12:06] <WildMinion> ReScO: yes
[12:06] <WildMinion> echo I have \
[12:06] <WildMinion> a dream
[12:06] <cfhowlett> shibu_, WildMinion has a great suggestion.  they can use guest account only
[12:12] <innopark> no graphic card <WildMinion>
[12:13] <innopark> and checking kern.log <WildMinion>
[12:13] <somsip> ReScO: heredoc - https://ignaciopp.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/heredoc-tip-execute-mysql-commands-from-shell-with-multiline-scripts-or-queries/
[12:13] <WildMinion> innopark: Are you that you don't have ANY graphic card? :O
[12:13] <gotnut> hello, i have mount an img, i need to edit the folder and replace files, but i am getting desination is full.. no space. using vm ubuntu 15.. any idea why is this happening? i am using mount -o loop system.img system
  Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[12:15] <Maimster> Where's the coffee?
[12:16] <WildMinion> gotnut: try 'mount -o loop,rw file.img /mountpoint'
[12:18] <gotnut> WildMinion still same error..
[12:20] <innopark> mount -t udf filename.img ~/img -o loop <gotnut>
[12:20] <bananbob> Hey, anyone know if there is a command for reload / relogging the ssh for a user from the server? For example, a script is run on a server and in the end it will relogg the user that is running the script via ssh
[12:20] <innopark> gotnut: mount -t udf filename.img ~/img -o loop
[12:24] <gotnut> mount -t udf filename.img ~/img -o loop <= ~/img is not present.. and if i replace it with my directory i got error.
[12:24] <gotnut> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[12:24] <gotnut>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[12:26] <leeyaa> does ubuntu keep ssl cache somewhere or something like that ?
[12:26] <leeyaa> i have an app that stopped working after remote ssl got renewed
[12:27] <leeyaa> thats the error: dsssl.error SSL_connect failed. Error 5 (DSSSLSock.cpp:1390) and app is Juniper VPN linux client
[12:32] <asianetplus> if i unload psmouse module will it affect usb mouse?
[12:36] <saroj> hi
[12:36] <saroj> hi friends
[12:36] <saroj> Need your help
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !help | saroj
[12:37] <innopark> gotnut: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-to-mount-img-file-882386/
[12:38] <saroj> I am a java developers, and know little about C programming... I am very enthusiastic about Linux in general and Ubuntu in particualr
[12:38] <saroj> and want to become a ubuntu app developer
[12:38] <saroj> Also, I want to learn python
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !contribute | saroj
[12:38] <cfhowlett> saroj, www.python.org
[12:38] <saroj> So, how much python language has contribution in Ubuntu app developemnt
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !python | Sarge123
[12:44] <MagePsycho> sudo service nginx reload
[12:44] <MagePsycho> ok: down: nginx: 1s, normally up, want up
[12:44] <MagePsycho>  > how to kill nginx and restart
[12:49] <bstone> 한국 사람 있나요?
[12:49] <bstone> 음... 있을리 없겠죠?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> !korean | bstone
[12:51] <mikubuntu> so, i have usb " /media/mikubuntu/E595-777C " plugged in to my laptop, and trying to figure out how to execute the instructions for 'no internet access' installation of broadcom bcm4312 as described on page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx (little more than halfway down the page) .. is anyone available to walk through this with me please :P
[12:51] <bstone> Thanks
[12:52] <zack_s_> I have installed postgreSQL now a "postgres" user was created
[12:52] <zack_s_> what is the password for this user?
[12:53] <mikubuntu> ps -- target machine is hp mini 1000, with xubuntu 1204 live usb running
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:55] <mcphail> zack_s_: I don't use postgresql, but I would assume the postgres user is simply created by the system to run the postgrsql processes in isolation, hence will not have a password
[13:10] <mikubuntu> so, i have usb " /media/mikubuntu/E595-777C " plugged in to my laptop, and trying to figure out how to execute the instructions for 'no internet access' installation of broadcom bcm4312 as described on page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx (little more than halfway down the page) .. is anyone available to walk through this with me please :P ps -- target machine is hp mini 1000, with xubuntu 1204 live usb 
[13:13] <hplc> in ubuntu, how can i in terminal ask how much space a directory takes up in total, (all files, folders,sub-files, subfolders), i so to speak wish to ask as if that folder in that moment was root folder, and i want to know the total "mass" its responsible for
[13:14] <mcphail> hplc: du -sh /path/to/folder
[13:15] <k1l> mikubuntu: you even linked the instructions. what is the issue now?
[13:16] <pbx> nice  mcphail, i didn't know about the -s option.  now i can retire my 'howbig' function :)  http://dpaste.com/2CFHV4W
[13:16] <k1l> mikubuntu: is there no chance of putting a ethernet cable into that mini hp thingy?
[13:17] <mcphail> pbx: ha!
[13:20] <hplc> mcphail, thanks :) just what i was looking for
[13:20] <mcphail> hplc: my pleasure
[13:23] <hplc> all my questions...i probably should sit down in supportmode sometimes and give something back
[13:23] <jeanjackbis> hi there, i'm looking how to launch a script I writed ( to manipulate user and user directories ) before an user connexion and after a Connexion to Internet established
[13:25] <hplc> jeanjackbis, if i remeber correctly, scriptlanguages cant run with elevated rights due to security, only truely compiled programs can
[13:25] <hplc> jeanjackbis, just a guess thou, dont take my word for it
[13:27] <jeanjackbis> hplc: it is a bash script
[13:28] <jeanjackbis> and with a 12.something version of ubuntu it was working with using lightdm, now i'm updated to 14.04 and lightdm launch the script before networking
[13:30] <jeanjackbis> hplc: maybe is it far from the bests practice
[13:31] <hplc> jeanjackbis, if you ever managed to schedule a script to run with elevated priviliges, i know nothing that can help you out,
[13:31] <zack_s_> mcphail: I followed this instruction: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-use-postgresql-on-ubuntu-14-04
[13:32] <zack_s_> there is a user set up
[13:34] <hplc> jeanjackbis, now im so uncertain i too wish someone else thats knows for sure would answer :s
[13:36] <jeanjackbis> hplc: well, thanks you to get a think in my issue ;)
[13:38] <mcphail> zack_s_: as I said, I don't use postgres. That user will probably not have a password set up and would be used by the system for unpriveleged actions such as running and maintaining databases. I suspect debian (hence Ubuntu) would have a much more elegant way to administer the database
[13:39] <hplc> jeanjackbis, i really wish i could be more helpful, but in my experience, sooner or later someone will show up with a better answer :)
[13:40] <guest111222> hello, does anyone know which version of Qt is used for google earth ?
[13:43] <luuse1> hey
[13:43] <luuse1> i'm trying to figure out an annoying problem with a friends ubuntu 15.04 installation
[13:44] <luuse1> chrome and ping can't resolve certain hostnames however running host <thehostname> resolves it just fine
[13:44] <luuse1> looking in /etc/resolv.conf there is a domain configured to search in but no nameserver posts as i have in my /etc/resolv.conf on my arch machine
[13:45] <luuse1> i found some information about how to configure the the name server to use for static configurations
[13:45] <luuse1> but is there any way to fix this without configuring a static ip?
[13:46] <luuse1> it's the /etc/network/interfaces file i've seen some static configs for
[13:59] <adsc> it might work on a dynamic configuration, too...not sure though, but should be easy to test
[14:12] <hplc> atleast there used to be choices in the GUI network manager, "manual" or "dhcp" or "dhcp - address only"
[14:15] <misiek_> windows rulez
[14:15] <misiek_> how to get laid?
[14:18] <teravolt> Всем привет
[14:23] <edve> is there anyone that can help me out about how to save a stream on VLC and saving it into a file
[14:23] <edve> By the command line of course
[14:24] <hplc> some annoyance...started following a book on mysql / php that requires ver 5.0, and repo has 5.5 and 5.6. cani install 5.0 without breaking anything?
[14:25] <hplc> "videnctool"?
[14:28] <pbx> hplc, i'd take a look at the differences between 5.0 and 5.5.  they may not be material.
[14:29] <pbx> i'd assume it's generally backward compatible within major versions.
[14:30] <hplc> pbx, me too, i guess ill go ahead with it, it cant cost me a fortune in wasted time until i discover whether it works or not, atleast not in a newbie course
[14:33] <MaynardWaters> Hi I am having a weird muting problem. When I hit mute on my keybaord I can see alsamixer and the speaker at the bottom of my xfce desktop add a small x, indicating it is muted. When I scroll a wheel which allows for up and down volume I can see the same speaker icon appear in the top right with a volume bar moving with my scrolling on the wheel. Now there is that small x on top of the scroll wheel speaker, but it neve
[14:34] <MaynardWaters> I also use xbmc/kodi on this machine a lot, in case that matters
[14:34] <vagrant_> hello mofos
[14:34] <gelatina> can someone tell me a C programming channel?
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> gelatina  ##c++
[14:34] <gelatina> thanks
[14:35] <fwaokda> is there something i can check on my ubuntu-guest so that I can see if my 3d graphics are working correctly? I'm getting some quirky effects when using some apps like chromium and I'm trying to figure out whats the cause
[14:35] <HSKW> hello! how i can add shortcut of nautilus on desktop?
[14:35] <HSKW> ububtu 14.04
[14:35] <vagrant_> stfu
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> HSKW  here's one way: open /usr/share/applications and drag the icon of choice to the desktop
[14:36] <HSKW> MonkeyDust: cant find nautilus :(
[14:36] <BluesKaj> MaynardWaters, usually increasing the volume defeats the mute, is that what you're asking about ?
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> HSKW  it's called 'files'
[14:37] <HSKW> yes, but on desktop when i drag and drop is hidden,
[14:37] <HSKW> on desktop not show.. :S
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> HSKW  try right click on the icon, copy to desktop
[14:39] <gelatina> who know C programming here to help me?
[14:40] <MaynardWaters> BluesKaj: not exactly, this appears to be some other level of mute stuck on.
[14:40] <mcphail> gelatina: not on this channel, unless it is an Ubuntu support question
[14:40] <compdoc> gelatina, thats a subject thats beyond the scope of this channel
[14:40] <gelatina> ok sorry
[14:40] <HSKW> yes but when paste nothing appear
[14:41] <traekili> ##c gelatina
[14:41] <BluesKaj> MaynardWaters, check the automute in alsamixer, it might be enabled
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> HSKW  try copy to... , so not copy/paste
[14:41] <MaynardWaters> I can even click on the speaker icon at the bottom of the xfce desktop and move the volume bar there, and see the same volume bar appear and react in the top right corner of the desktop, but the x is still on that icon and I still don't hear anything
[14:42] <MaynardWaters> BluesKaj: does it matter if I am in a putty session?
[14:42] <MaynardWaters> i can use alasmixer in command line or one from the dropdown start menu with a xfce style gui
[14:42] <MaynardWaters> any preference or suggestions on understanding the difference between these?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> MaynardWaters, use the console
[14:44] <MaynardWaters> BluesKaj: I can mute and unmute it there and see the impact on the speaker at the bottom of the screen
[14:44] <MaynardWaters> when I alter the volme the upper right speaker also appears, but the x never goes away
[14:44] <MaynardWaters> is automute different than normal mute?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:45] <BluesKaj> it's global
[14:46] <MaynardWaters> BluesKaj: pressing "m" mutes and unmutes
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:46] <BluesKaj> I think automute is leftover from some bygone era, it's nothing but a pita
[14:47] <MaynardWaters> pita?
[14:47] <MaynardWaters> BluesKaj: I checked the help file in alsamixer and didn't see any other mute beyond "m" muting
[14:47] <BluesKaj> MaynardWaters, atleast until we becoame aware of it
[14:48] <BluesKaj> MaynardWaters, your alsamixer doesn't show the automute ?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> it's ususally onn the far left
[14:49] <andersonid> Hi. I dont no why, but my terminal doesnt have a really transparent background anymore. Its shows my desktop background not the app from behind. How can I get it back?  xfce in use
[14:49] <andersonid> * I dont know... sorry my english is so bad
[14:50] <MaynardWaters> snap!
[14:50] <MaynardWaters> i see the column for auto-muteM: Enabled
[14:53] <MaynardWaters> BluesKaj: weirdly, the icon hasn't changed
[14:56] <BluesKaj> unmute the enabled automute with the down arrow ket, MaynardWaters
[14:56] <BluesKaj> ket=key
[14:57] <HSKW> thanks a lot
[14:58] <HSKW> how i can add a samba dir shortcut on desktop on ubuntu 14?
[15:01] <HSKW> plz help me
[15:03] <Unhammer> is apport-bug supposed to scrub personal info from the logs in any way?
[15:03] <Unhammer> because I notice one log says "hostname" where I'd expect a hostname, but the other says the actual hostname
[15:03] <k1l> Unhammer: its ubuntu-bug as command.
[15:03] <Unhammer> i know
[15:04] <Unhammer> (man ubuntu-bug gives man apport-bug, and the package is called apport)
[15:04] <k1l> Unhammer: and that depends on what you define as personal info. if there will be critical personal info it will tell you. but the hostname is not crucial private information, imho.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> k1l: +1 image how many print01 or mail01 systems there are...
[15:05] <gregL> HSKW  look up arronax launcher
[15:06] <Unhammer> k1l,  also wlan SSID's are included
[15:06] <k1l> Unhammer: and launchpad will make that bugreport only visible to the package maintainers until they declare that its safe for beeing shown puplic if its marked to have private data.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> People are far too paranoid
[15:07] <k1l> Unhammer: well, i still dont think ssids are crucial private information. i mean everyone running a wifi scan can see it.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Unhammer: aka Kevin Brubeck,?
[15:11] <HSKW> gregL: whats it is?
[15:16] <HSKW> plz how i can make an samba folder shortcut on desktiop
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> HSKW: do you mean you are on a  system that has mounted a samba share and you would like a shortcut to the folder on the desktop?
[15:18] <HSKW> yess!
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> HSKW: what is the output of: mount
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> HSKW: use a pastebin to hold the text
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> HSKW: or run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; clear; mount | pastebinit
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> HSKW: and post the URL in the channel
[15:21]  * ActionParsnip thinks pastebinit should be default installed 
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> HSKW: once we have the text. I can give a command
[15:24] <HSKW> ActionParsnip: ok wait :)
[15:29] <HSKW> ActionParsnip: i heve solved editing the Nautilus shortcut and add on EXEC parameter = nautlinus smb://homepc/documets
[15:29] <dbear> I have a thinkpad w510 -- and had ubuntu 14 lts deskop install and running fine. Then I purchased a larger hard disk, and installed the same version of ubuntu, with the same startup parameters -- and now when I do an shutdown, ubuntu doesn't know how to power off the device. I have kernel startup in default/grub as follows: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi=off apm=power_off" .
[15:29] <dbear> still ubuntu doesn't know how to power off
[15:29] <HSKW> now when i open this link nautilus open directly the samba dir :)
[15:29] <dbear> any pointers?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> HSKW: cool
[15:30] <HSKW> ActionParsnip: ^_^ thanks also for the support
[15:30] <mcphail> dbear: why do you have acpi=off?
[15:30] <HSKW> good bye to all! :) :) see yaaa UBUNTU ROCKS :)
[15:30] <dbear> mcphail: becuase after research, that was what was recommendated to make it boot consistenly
[15:31] <mcphail> dbear: and has it ever switched off since you added that?
[15:32] <dbear> mcphail: I think I had acpi=off in my last ubuntu working sets -- the prior hard drive. and it seemed to work fine.
[15:33] <mcphail> dbear: are you sure? When I last looked (which was some time ago, so my memory was fuzzy) the desktop shutdown button needed functioning acpi
[15:34] <dbear> mcphail: wish I had the old hard drive -- I could check quickly..
[15:34] <dbear> perhaps I need to google that stuff again...
[15:35] <mcphail> dbear: don't take my word for it: has been ages since I looked at this
[15:38] <Unhammer> k1l,  it just seemed like an inconsistency to me, but if it's NOTABUG then OK
[15:39] <Unhammer> ActionParsnip,  yes :)
[15:39] <saa> i wish to create livecd when i run ant-get upgrade command in uck it throws an error invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/systemd-logind not found. dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[15:39] <saa> can someone help in getting out of this error in ubuntu 14.40
[15:40] <k1l> Unhammer: if the bugreport containes private data its made invisible for the public and only the package maintainers can see it. but not every data is crucial private security data.
[15:41] <k1l> i mean who can help to solve a bug if it sounds like "i have ubuntu XXXXX and my issue is XXXXX with XXXX and the error is XXXX."?
[15:41] <Unhammer> woah there
[15:42] <ubuntu_> disconncet
[15:42] <ubuntu_> disconnect
[15:42] <Unhammer> I think you might be arguing against someone else now ;-)
[15:42] <k1l> ubuntu_: use "/exit"
[15:42] <ubuntu_> sorry, using irssi for the first time
[15:43] <k1l> or was it /quit ?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> saa: do you mean 14.04?
[15:45] <saa> yes
[15:45] <saa> by mistake 0 got added
[15:45] <saa> can u help
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> saa: how are you customising the OS? Are you using a chroot?
[15:46] <saa> yes
[15:47] <saa> i am using uck-remaster-chroot-rootfs
[15:52] <ubuntu__> hi
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> saa: are there guide videos on YouTube?
[15:52] <saa> about
[15:52] <saa> uck
[15:53] <saa> uck?
[15:53] <ubuntu__> pls I can't seem to be able to install php on my ubunut 13.10 any help?
[15:54] <xangua> ubuntu__: you are using an outdated and no longer supported release
[15:55] <ubuntu__> I tried to upgrade the OS via DVD but it won't let me. the option to upgrade has been grayed
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu__: I suggest you wipe Saucy off and do a clean install of Trusty. Trusty is LTS and supported til April 2019. You can restore your user data from your backups
[15:58] <saa> i am customizing LTS version with uck
[15:58] <saa> i dont have data
[15:58] <saa> i am creating livecd
[15:59] <ubuntu__> Thanks
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> saa: are there no videos about uck on YouTube?
[16:00] <saa> no
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> saa: https://youtu.be/LX-TPNpXet4
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> saa: really....
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> saa: published 21st May 2015.... How long did that take me to find?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> saa: more like "no...  I didn't even look"...  Right?
[16:02] <saa> sorry
[16:02] <saa> i thought u looked at it and was asking
[16:02] <saa> i didnt open youtue
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> saa: did you even look when I suggested YouTube?
[16:03] <saa> no
[16:03] <saa> i didnt
[16:03] <saa> sorry
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> saa: then when I asked, why did you say no?
[16:04] <saa> i assumed it may nt be thr
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> saa: then you are a fool
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> saa: it's free to look and takes seconds..
[16:04] <saa> i think i said sorry
[16:04] <saa> if u still want to insist
[16:05] <saa> i dont have any further answer/comment
[16:05] <saa> leave it
[16:05] <saa> if u dont have answer to my query
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> saa:  did. I gave a link to a video to you, didn't I?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> saa: you are really going to struggle with computers, I'd just stick to the default install
[16:07] <rainbowwarrior> hello , can someone please name software that I can use to make lyric videos with and also just text for videos please ? (not just titles and sub-titles) for ubuntu 15.04 ?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: so like with a bouncing ball / swipe of the lyrics like in karaoke?
[16:08] <Whitelion> hi there I'm having troubles tring to install amd drivers for my Radeon R7 240 I'm tryng here http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu%20x86%2064 but no one seems to work
[16:09] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip, yes or other ways to display the text, and also need something that will allow me to have as much text as i like to scroll etc
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: let me search. Sounds fun
[16:09] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip ok thank you
[16:10] <Agent_Acht> just for the record - I doubled my efforts in finding an answer I was cmoing here to ask based off the last few interactions i read, and actually found my answer myself heheh Thanks for helping me!
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: https://jrharshath.wordpress.com/2009/02/13/how-to-make-karaoke-on-your-ubuntu-box/   maybe
[16:11] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip Thank You
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2206653 "old minilyrics" maybe a thing
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Osd, not old
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: Display Song Lyrics on the Ubuntu Desktop
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/display-song-lyrics-on-your-ubuntu-desktop   bingo!!
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: looks pretty spot on
[16:13] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip thank you
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: might want to check the PPA supports your release
[16:14] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip ok will do thank you, but I was looking for something that would allow me to create my own lyric videos (sorry my fault, I should of said that in first place).
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior: I see
[16:16] <rainbowwarrior> ActionParsnip, I have openshot installed, but see no way of doing it
[16:17] <EriC^^> rainbowwarrior: go to add text and choose where to put it
[16:17] <EriC^^> and then add it on a track above the video track so it appears over it
[16:18] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^^ thank you
[16:18] <EriC^^> rainbowwarrior: no problem
[16:19] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^^ , I do not seem to have a add text menu
[16:20] <EriC^^> rainbowwarrior: oh, it's title > new title
[16:20] <Whitelion> nobody wants to help me with my drivers?
[16:20] <Whitelion> is it possible that they don't work or maybe it's just my fault?
[16:21] <srg> Anyone good with rsync? I want to exclude ~/firefox/ but INCLUDE ~/.mozilla/firefox/. Doing `--exclude "firefox/"` excludes both, not just the first one.
[16:22] <EriC^^> srg: try --exclude "/.mozilla/firefox/"
[16:23] <EriC^^> * ".mozilla/firefox"
[16:24] <EriC^^> srg: nevermind
[16:24] <supersmilers> Hi. I was trying to change the screen resolution of ubuntu gnome in virtual machine used with hyper-v but it won't update the grub. the virtual machine progress just sit there at 0% usage. it only goes up to 1-4% if I move the cursor around.
[16:25] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^^ :- That seems to be for title and subtitle only
[16:25] <EriC^^> rainbowwarrior: what do you mean?
[16:26] <supersmilers> how do I get it to change the screen resolution to 1920x1080 and get the damned grub to update?
[16:26] <EriC^^> rainbowwarrior: you can put a footer and put the lyrics there
[16:26] <rainbowwarrior> EriC^^ , oh yeah good idea thank you
[16:28] <supersmilers> anybody?
[16:30] <supersmilers> grub won't update for strange reason
[16:30] <EriC^^> supersmilers: what's it say?
[16:31] <supersmilers> it just sit there: "found: virtmuz images"
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> supersmilers: is it a known issue with hyper?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> *hyperV
[16:33] <supersmilers> no. it used to work in the past
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> supersmilers: have you tried reinstalling the grub packages
[16:34] <supersmilers> not yet. how do I do that?
[16:36] <blib> I just installed python3-scipy on ubuntu 15.04 - no module scipy.stats - how do I get that?
[16:37] <supersmilers> yep. its stuck at configuring grub-efi-amd64
[16:38] <supersmilers> its gen 2 virtual machine
[16:38] <supersmilers> i used ubuntu gnome 15.04
[16:41] <supersmilers> Is there's better way do this? maybe should I install it in Gen 1 virtual machine
[16:43] <Amnestie> Hey
[16:43] <Amnestie> were speak here German..
[16:44] <Pici> !de | Amnestie
[16:44] <Pici> blib: Thats weird, I'd expect it to be there.  Are you sure you
[16:44] <Pici> re running python3?
[16:44] <supersmilers> which distro of ubuntu should I install in hyper-v virtual machine?
[16:45] <compdoc> supersmilers, ubuntu server with a Mate desktop is how I do it
[16:48] <supersmilers> ok if I install the server image how do I install mate desktop
[16:49] <asianetplus> Hi guys i have this problem with my wifi i really dont know the issue is at roter end or at laptop. I have a windows also running on same machine
[16:50] <asianetplus> which is working fine
[16:50] <asianetplus> http://pastebin.com/KPGwF8QZ
[16:51] <asianetplus> wifi disconnects frequently
[16:53] <csb> asianetplus, You could also ask ##networking
[16:54] <brothersome> I have a problem with my fan in my laptop since I have updated the kernel
[16:55] <asianetplus> csb: could you give me channel name
[16:55] <csb> asianetplus, ##networking
[16:57] <asianetplus> csb: Thanks
[16:57] <supersmilers> I never used server images
[16:57] <supersmilers> Isn't the RPi 2 images is made from server images?
[16:59] <supersmilers> beacuse raspbian starts from cli by default
[17:02] <supersmilers> how do I start mate-desktop session in server?
[17:05] <supersmilers> anybody?
[17:06] <henohenomoheji> ooboontoo
[17:06] <supersmilers> what
[17:06] <henohenomoheji> OO-bOOn-tOO
[17:07] <supersmilers> I still can't get to mate desktop in server
[17:07] <compdoc> eww-bOOn-tOO
[17:08] <henohenomoheji> oo-bun-too
[17:08] <henohenomoheji> lotta people coming and going today
[17:08] <brothersome> Problem: After start after pause my sensor temp3 gives a 100 degrees Celsius, which makes my fan keeps fully blowing - this is since a new kernel
[17:08] <neurot> Server edition Ubuntu
[17:09] <compdoc> supersmilers, I use Mate because its a 2D desktop that works with vncserver and xRDP so I can remote desktop to the server. but if thats not important, Unity is fine
[17:09] <supersmilers> how? when I used "startx" it only went to cli
[17:09] <henohenomoheji> This yogurt ranch dressing tastes sour. It's not very good.
[17:09] <mini> hi
[17:09] <henohenomoheji> hi
[17:09] <mcphail> henohenomoheji: stop spamming the channel please
[17:09] <xangua> supersmilers: you don't statx anymore buth the DM you have installed
[17:10] <xangua> lgihtdm, gdm, etc.
[17:10] <henohenomoheji> I was unaware off-topic discussion is spamming now
[17:10] <mcphail> henohenomoheji: then I have made you aware
[17:10] <supersmilers> what's mate's defaultdm
[17:11] <compdoc> startx requires you install xorg, I think
[17:12] <supersmilers> isn't mate in desktop edition used lightdm?
[17:14] <neurot> supersmilers do you want mate so you can vnc in to it
[17:14] <rypervenche> henohenomoheji: There is #ubuntu-offtopic for that. :)
[17:14] <supersmilers> yes
[17:14] <compdoc> supersmilers, how did you install mate?
[17:15] <benishor> hi there. I recently upgraded to 15.04 and I am trying to install vlc but it looks like I ran into some package dependency fuckage
[17:15] <neurot> I have a better solution http://www.webmin.com/ for admin of a server
[17:15] <supersmilers> installed mate from default server iso using "mate-desktop"
[17:16] <benishor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11676181/
[17:16] <benishor> can anyone provide a hint please?
[17:16] <brothersome> benishor, Kernel version? I couldn't install virtualbox complete - so I manually updated the kernel
[17:16] <mcphail> !webmin | neurot
[17:16] <benishor> brothersome:
[17:16] <benishor> $ uname -r
[17:16] <benishor> 3.19.0-18-generic
[17:17] <neurot> mcphail i did not know thank you
[17:17] <HoloIRCUser3> Any cheap laptop for ubuntu ?? Any suggestions
[17:17] <mcphail> neurot: np
[17:17] <cangkok> HoloIRCUser3: hp
[17:17] <supersmilers> how do I start it?
[17:18] <brothersome> benishor, 3.19.0.20-generic  == Ok your kernel is fine
[17:18] <cangkok> anyone know how to update kernel?
[17:18] <ioria> benishor, apt-cache policy vlc
[17:19] <HoloIRCUser3> Simply download kernel from kernel.org
[17:19] <HoloIRCUser3> And install or
[17:19] <HoloIRCUser3> U can update with package manager
[17:19] <mcphail> cangkok: yes - what do you want to do, and why do you want to update?
[17:19] <benishor> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11676206/
[17:19] <brothersome> HoloIRCUser3, Minimum 1 GB Ram with a harddisk 20 GB and a Pentium 4 (With 64 bit) or higher
[17:20] <cangkok> holo
[17:20] <HoloIRCUser3> Any specific laptop???
[17:20] <ioria> benishor, ahh, from ppa ?
[17:20] <cangkok> HoloIRCUser3: how to update using package manager?
[17:20] <benishor> ioria: yes, but it would do the same even from the official repos
[17:20] <HoloIRCUser3> May buget is $1000
[17:20] <ioria> benishor, i see
[17:20] <benishor> ioria: somehow there's a problem with mesa
[17:21] <HoloIRCUser3> Search for new kernel update in package manager then upgrade it
[17:21] <brothersome> cangkok, I search through my history
[17:21] <benishor> ioria: aptitude seems to offer more insight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11676213/
[17:21] <pikos> @benishor try adding xorg-edgers ppa
[17:21] <brothersome> Cang, sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[17:21] <benishor> pikos: thanks, will try
[17:21] <supersmilers> what's the mate-desktop default DM?
[17:23] <benishor> pikos: apparently that did it. thank you!
[17:23] <cangkok> brothersome: HoloIRCUser3 oke thanks. have you tried updating kernel? im using 14.04 btw
[17:23] <benishor> thank you pikos, ioria, brothersome!
[17:23] <pikos> ;) ur welcome
[17:23] <benishor> but I can't help wondering why that is
[17:23] <HoloIRCUser3> No .. Buddy
[17:23] <ioria> benishor, it's ok ?
[17:23] <benishor> doesn't the official repo contain everything needed?
[17:23] <benishor> yes ioria
[17:24] <ioria> benishor, good
[17:24] <benishor> unfortunately vlc doesn't seem to work in fullscreen
[17:24] <HoloIRCUser3> But updating from package manager will provide stable version
[17:24] <benishor> there's a black surface
[17:24] <benishor> windowed mode works ok though
[17:24] <HoloIRCUser3> So dont worry about crash or anything else
[17:25] <jstvz> Hello everyone.
[17:25] <jstvz> I'm using iwlwifi on 14.04, using an intel 7260. Is there some way to force  the card to 5Ghz only mode?
[17:25] <brothersome> cangkok, I did update my kernel because I couldn't run virtualbox
[17:26] <cangkok> HoloIRCUser3: im still using 14.00 , afraid if the newest kernel only support newest ubuntu. isn it?
[17:27] <compdoc> supersmilers, this is from my notes:   http://pastebin.com/7hTFGWSi
[17:27] <supersmilers> ok I'm gonna redo the install thing
[17:29] <hplc> whats the fastest method to search clean administrate and organise an external 1TB storage drive that never ever had any maintenance ? FSlint have been working for ages, emty dirs, duplicates, ancient files and using NTFS..i think
[17:29] <HoloIRCUser3> No no dont worry cause new kernel which is available in package manager is for ur os only
[17:29] <hplc> would xfs/zfs be a better choice?
[17:29] <mcphail> cangkok: you can use a new (4.x) kernel with 14.04, but it isn't sensible to do so unless you have issues with stock kernel
[17:29] <HoloIRCUser3> So dont worry u can blindly update it
[17:30] <HoloIRCUser3> Package manager shows u only those updates which are for ur system
[17:30] <cangkok> HoloIRCUser3: okay, thankyou.. will give it a try soon
[17:31] <HoloIRCUser3> Yup cangkok
[17:31] <HoloIRCUser3> Try try try ... Learn learn learn
[17:31] <HoloIRCUser3> And enjoy
[17:31] <melio> i wrote a usb drive with an iso using he ubuntu usb creator program and now i can't boot it.
[17:32] <melio> it won't mount either.
[17:32] <melio> it just powers up, did it fry my usb 4gig thumbstick!
[17:32] <HoloIRCUser3> Try universal usb melio
[17:32] <melio> ok
[17:33] <joshh20> I have removed a disk from my RAID array, but the array still thinks it should have that disk, how do I tell it to just use two disks now?
[17:33] <joshh20> '292900800 blocks [3/2] [UU_]'
[17:33] <benishor> apparently a reboot did it!
[17:38] <est31> hi there is there a firefox clone in ubuntu package sources thats also exempt from ubuntu's per-version feature freezing, that removes shit like pocket?
[17:39] <melio> universal usb installer isnt in repos
[17:39] <melio> wonder why
[17:39] <brainwash> est31: not in the official repos
[17:39] <melio> unetbootin is
[17:39] <melio> both multiplatform
[17:39] <est31> brainwash, can you recommend unofficial repos then?
[17:39] <nexia> unetbootin is not workable with uefi really
[17:40] <HoloIRCUser3> Ooops its a windows utility
[17:40] <melio> oh it's a uefi issue? i thought the os installer handles that
[17:40] <HoloIRCUser3> Sorry
[17:40] <nexia> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775689
[17:40] <melio> k
[17:40] <melio> I never used unetbootin for that
[17:40] <melio> I wrote a cd and installed it it from live
[17:41] <melio> I'm about to do that again, because my usb device is smoked
[17:41] <melio> I might pop it on another box to try to wipe it
[17:42] <melio> I havent burned a dvd in 4 years
[17:42] <melio> or wrote a cd
[17:42] <melio> lol this brings back memories
[17:43] <brainwash> est31: maybe something like this one https://launchpad.net/~marian.kadanka/+archive/ubuntu/palemoon
[17:43] <detach-> how about ripping an audiocd
[17:43] <detach-> lamemp3, anyone?
[17:44] <est31> thanks, brainwash.
[17:44] <melio> detach-, i don't rip music cds cause I have the internet, i havent been in a music store since the 90's
[17:44] <melio> infact i'm surprized physical media still exists
[17:44] <melio> i'm surprized i even have blank media still
[17:45] <melio> blew the dust off it
[17:45] <neurot> melio lol
[17:45] <detach-> melio: i think vinyl records are just starting to regain popularity again
[17:45] <meandrain> hi
[17:45] <melio> detach-, with people who grow hops to make beer and wear atari shirts, who never actually owned atari
[17:45] <detach-> melio: just when you thought that's the end of anything circular, spins and stores data (incl. hard drives)
[17:45] <meandrain> any Idea how can I debug I/O problems in realtime ?
[17:46] <melio> to those people opensource to them is the receipe from 2000 years ago for beer
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> meandrain: I/O of what?
[17:46] <melio> hipsters CANT run linux :P
[17:46] <astroboy> have you guys tried IoT?
[17:46] <detach-> meandrain: what type of i/o problem?
[17:46] <melio> those people with beards are called developers, or Brogrammers
[17:46] <meandrain> detach-: apache is running slowly when there's lots of hits, like a DoS on apache
[17:46] <detach-> meandrain: check your logs
[17:46] <meandrain> and I want to know the I/O performance
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> melio: I have a beard and am neither a developer or a programmer.
[17:47] <meandrain> that part of log is missing, like an hour missing
[17:47] <melio> detach-, microsoft calls them spindals. which isnt even a word in linux :P
[17:47] <melio> ActionParsnip, hockey fan?
[17:47] <melio> it's playoffs. :)
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> meandrain: I/O of what? Your NIC?
[17:47] <meandrain> of the hard drive
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> melio: not even a little
[17:47] <melio> no shave playoffs
[17:47] <detach-> meandrain: try iotop
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> melio: I don't know what that means
[17:47] <TJ-> meandrain: see "man iotop"
[17:48] <detach-> meandrain: or if you are looking @ network traffic, iptraf
[17:48] <meandrain> thanx guys
[17:48] <canine> is it a safe practice to rename root user ?
[17:48] <canine> or is that not recommended
[17:48] <TJ-> meandrain: you may want to enable Apache's status mod though, see https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_status.html
[17:48] <detach-> canine: i've done it before back when i was a crazy BOFH, don't remember if i messed up anything
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> melio: if you make big swooping statements, intelligent people will tell you lots of cases where it doesn't apply.
[17:49] <meandrain> TJ-: I see, thanx
[17:49] <tonyyarusso> canine: It's completely unnecessary, so why risk it?
[17:49] <TJ-> canine: that rather depends if the system has scripts that expect there to be a user named root, rather than referring to UID 0
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> canine: why bother...
[17:49] <detach-> canine: but in general you can disable root instead of rename, then create another user with uid=0, gid=0
[17:49] <astroboy> my ubuntu alwas reset the brighness to the max after reboot. any solution?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> detach-: that can get messy
[17:50] <detach-> ActionParsnip: well... the recommend way is probably sudoer
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> astroboy: does the system have a make and model?
[17:50] <detach-> sudoers*
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> astroboy: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Detas: indeed
[17:50] <canine> i just thought if my username was unknown (not root) that it would be harder to hack my server
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> canine: then use your user and use sudo as the OS is designed.
[17:51] <detach-> canine: sure, that is a good way to think.. but first what do you have that is open to such attacks? SSH?
[17:51] <mcphail> canine: only if you're trying to keep out the utterly clueless. Renaming root will not help your security
[17:51] <detach-> i was about to say 'telnet'... that's probably in the same era as CD
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> canine: the root account is disabled for exactly that reason and more
[17:51] <astroboy> im still not infront of my laptop now
[17:51] <canine> im running a server apache2/mysql, full lamp stack
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> astroboy: well, we will need that detail
[17:52] <detach-> canine: renaming root will not fix any bugs on an open and poorly patched/secured apache/mysql
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> canine: leave root alone and use sudo when needed, your system will be much more secure
[17:53] <canine> ok, thanks for the advice
[17:53] <[Ex0r]> How accurate is up to date is 'locate'?
[17:53] <[Ex0r]> accurate and up to date*
[17:53] <ioria> sudo updatedb
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> [Ex0r]: depends when you last ran: sudo updatedb
[17:53] <astroboy> ActionParsnip: will be back here soon after checking that, thx
[17:54] <[Ex0r]> I had mysql installed, and installed vesta. It appears to have overwritten my database files, but I can't tell if it's deleted them, or just told the config to look in a different place, so I am trying to find where the original ones are stored
[17:54] <brainwash> ActionParsnip: isn't updatedb run periodically (cron)?
[17:54] <detach-> alias locate="sudo updatedb; locate"
[17:54] <meandrain> detach-: ActionParsnip TJ-   I've just found this:  http://www.brendangregg.com/perf.html
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> [Ex0r]: it's faster because you are searching a database of files and folders. If you haven't ran updatedb in a while and the file system changes a lot then it will be ineffective
[17:54] <[Ex0r]> Okay it appears it made a backup of my files and folders from before, so can i just restore them?
[17:55] <albertocg> Hello, how do I get my Ubuntu 15.04 to work as a pentesting OS. Most of Ubuntu's repositories aren't even up to date with security tools
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Brainwash: could check root's crontab to see. Don't think so...
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> albertocg: there are distributions with pentesting tools
[17:55] <detach-> meandrain: that's complicated, and unless i exhausted all means and have to go through all that stuff, i would rather start with the easy ones first
[17:55] <TJ-> [Ex0r]: "/var/lib/mysql/"
[17:55] <mcphail> albertocg: Ubuntu isn't designed to run the latest software. If you need the bleeding edge, you're using the wrong distro
[17:56] <wastrel> which is the right distro
[17:56] <[Ex0r]> yup, TJ- thats where it installed the new myslq installation, but it made a backup of my old databases so I am just going to copy them back over
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> detach-: once updatedb has ran it doesn't need to be ran again unless the data changes extremely rapidly.
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: kali is one option
[17:56] <krabador> cristian_c, oh, glad to see you here
[17:57] <[Ex0r]> now to find out how to restore the usernames
[17:57] <ioria> brainwash, i guess so, because i'm on an old machine and sometime i hear strange noise from hh i check ps -A and it's updatedb
[17:57] <[Ex0r]> not sure what database those are stored in
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> wastrel: not supported here but has some nice tools
[17:57] <albertocg> mcphail, Not even if I build it myself?
[17:58] <albertocg> ActionParsnip, I already have Kali for Live USB, but I want to try it from Ubuntu as I don't see myself using Kali for personal use
[17:58] <mcphail> albertocg: you can always build yourself. The distro won't help you with self-built software, howerver. You'd have to arrange all the updates etc yourself
[17:59] <detach-> albertocg: i would suggest you download src of the tools you want to use and compile them
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> albertocg: well yeah, it's a  toolbox distribution...  Use Ubuntu for daily tasks and boot USB when you need the toolbox....
[17:59] <albertocg> mcphail, But there's no unsupported repo or whatever that let's me get up-to-date builds
[17:59] <detach-> or run it in a virual env
[18:00] <mcphail> albertocg: there may be a PPA out there, but be aware that PPAs cannot always be trusted
[18:00] <mcphail> !ppa | albertocg
[18:00] <albertocg> ActionParsnip, It's a pain to reboot everytime I want to do some small tests and for VMs some networking tools won't work
[18:00] <detach-> netsplit?
[18:00] <detach-> why won't those networking tools work?
[18:00] <brainwash> ioria: it makes sense to run it periodically in the background. so, using `locate` does not require to manually update the database
[18:01] <detach-> promiscuous mode?
[18:02] <albertocg> detach-, mostly packet sniffing tools. They just run on Live USB, still can't get them to work under VM
[18:02] <ioria> brainwash, yep, but figure out the situation in which you have installed a package and cron has't still run ....
[18:02] <tonyyarusso> canine: Don't worry about changing the username.  Worry about just locking the account.  You shouldn't be logging in as root, so it doesn't matter what root is called if you can't.
[18:02] <ioria> brainwash, oh, my God.... i lost a file ^_^
[18:02] <albertocg> mcphail, so far the best seems to be build my own packages one by one...
[18:03] <detach-> albertocg: that's because you'll just need to have promiscuous mode, but IIRC some of those packet sniffing tools are already available on Ubuntu
[18:03] <detach-> albertocg: i know vmware allows promiscuous but not sure about  virtualbox or what you are using
[18:03] <brainwash> ioria: yes, that is a special case. automatically updating the database on every occasion is bad I guess
[18:03] <mcphail> albertocg: or use whatever versions of the tools which ship by default
[18:04] <hr49_pi> Hello. I just installed from the minimal CD, and I am having issues installing my graphics driver nvidia-346-updates. (I did not select any software to install during setup.) Earlier, I encountered the same problem installing xfce4, but since I had received some error messages about unresolved dependences in aptitude during setup, I figured I had messed something up and reinstalled. (My primary system is not
[18:04] <hr49_pi> at risk; this is just for experimentation.) However, I receive the following error: `Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: Timeout was reached (g-io-error-quark, 24)'. Earlier, when I had this problem with xfce4, I tried running a apt-get install -f, which reported several hundred partially-installed packages, encountered the
[18:04] <hr49_pi> aforementioned error, and kept going, encountering others, before trying to setup rtkit, which froze the system. (TTYs I had not yet logged into did not respond.) I looked at the dpkg log, which reported that rtkit was half-configured, or something along those lines. Any help would be appreciated.
[18:04] <albertocg> mcphail, most of them are outdated
[18:04] <albertocg> detach-, I've been trying with virtualbox
[18:04] <ioria> brainwash, yep
[18:04] <brainwash> ioria: one could add a hook to apt-get, so it updates the database after package installation/removal
[18:05] <mcphail> albertocg: then your options are self-build, PPA or alternative distro. I'm afraid that's about it
[18:05] <detach-> albertocg: unfortunately then, gcc is now your best friend
[18:05] <brainwash> wall of text
[18:05] <al8989> hello i was looking to buy a wireless adapter and was wondering if thenetgear wna3100mor the wna100m would good cjoices for wireless adapters that stay connected
[18:05] <ioria> brainwash, for apt there is. but don't think for other scenario
[18:06] <albertocg> I'm a dev myself so that won't be a problem.. I only wanted to find out if there was a better workaround on Ubuntu. Thank you
[18:06] <meandrain> detach-: right, I'll start simple since I don't know yet simple things, I've pasted that link just because it seemed interesting :D
[18:06] <ioria> brainwash, like the setup.py, install.sh,  etc. etc
[18:07] <mcphail> albertocg: if you install everything under /usr/local/, the Ubuntu packagemanager won't interfere with your self-builds
[18:07] <detach-> albertocg: yeap but packet sniffing tools don't need to be very updated do they? it's the analysis tools that should be updated
[18:08] <RepThis1> hey guys im having problems suod apt-get upgrading, i get a bunch of errors and was wondering how do i regenerate the stuff it looks at?
[18:08] <mcphail> RepThis1: sudo apt-get update
[18:09] <hr49_pi> RepThis1, what kind of errors are you getting?
[18:09] <RepThis1> hold on now i cant install pastebinit b/c  of some administrative directory process.
[18:11] <RepThis1> wth. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11676924/
[18:12] <SchrodingersScat> RepThis1: is apt-get/synaptic/aptitude/etc running elsewhere?
[18:12] <SchrodingersScat> anything that works with packages
[18:12] <RepThis1> SchrodingersScat: i got it fixed, give me a second to post the real prob.
[18:13] <strtok> if i resize a window in ubuntu 14.04, my compiz kinda hangs and i can no longer interact with anything with the mouse. and if i hold down alt-ctrl and press left/right arrow to switch virtual desktops, it manually moves the mouse with the keyboard instead (???). This is resolved if i kill -9 compiz
[18:13] <RepThis1> SchrodingersScat: program was stopped
[18:13] <pbx> RepThis1, some pastebins let you pipe stdin to make a paste. e.g. echo "foo" | curl -s -F "content=<-" http://dpaste.com/api/v2/
[18:14] <pbx> FWIW
[18:15] <RepThis1> pbx: wow that looks complex
[18:15] <RepThis1> never seen a =<-
[18:15] <RepThis1> wat
[18:15] <astroboy>  pbx hmm interesting
[18:15] <astroboy> pbx: just know that we can do that
[18:16] <al8989> hello i was looking to buy a wireless adapter and was wondering if the netgear wna3100m or the wna1000m would be good choices for ones that work with ubuntu
[18:17] <RepThis1> its gonna be a bit before i can post the problem once the upgrade finishes
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> al8989: net says both use Realtek, looks like there were more problems with the second, but that may have been solved by now, that was 2012
[18:19] <hr49_pi> Is there anything wrong with an apt-get install -f hanging if a dpkg --reconfigure -a is run right after reboot? It seems like a bad solution, but when I did it earlier with xfce4, xfce seemed to work just fine.
[18:20] <hr49_pi> I still have no idea what the root of my issue is though.
[18:21] <catalinn> hello
[18:21] <catalinn> anybody can help me with something
[18:21] <catalinn> ?
[18:22] <al8989> ah ok thank you i need a new adapter and i cna buy these down the street from my place and i noticed they both workd with ubuntu linux but wanted to know how well
[18:22] <catalinn> im looking for ubuntu installer to run with windows, i had it before
[18:22] <catalinn> and i had dual boot
[18:22] <catalinn> wubi was the installer
[18:22] <al8989> so you saidthe wna1000m was the better choice
[18:23] <catalinn> any link to download?
[18:23] <hr49_pi> catalinn: something that would run from windows, or something you could say put on a cd or flash drive and boot into?
[18:23] <al8989> isn't wubi usually on the ubuntu dvd?
[18:24] <catalinn> nope, when i open my old laptop, i had 2 options, boot windows or linux
[18:24] <xangua> catalinn: wubi is no longer maintained
[18:24] <hr49_pi> I think the live cd has an option to install along side Windows
[18:24] <catalinn> ii have the original dvd will try to see
[18:24] <catalinn> if it works
[18:24] <xangua> What's wrong with a real install or a virtual machine? catalinn
[18:24] <al8989> CATALINN: i just installed ubuntuon apc a when i inserted the cd into windows it came me an instLL IOTION IF I WANTED TO USE IT
[18:24] <catalinn> because i have windows 8  original and dont have the cd
[18:25] <catalinn> and i need some programs from windows as well..
[18:25] <yacc> Any one that could help me debug a X freeze (no reaction, but mouse pointer works, Haswell Optimus hardware running only Intel drivers, AFAIK, the laptop is reachable via ssh)?
[18:25] <catalinn> cant revert to win if i upgrade
[18:25] <yacc> Nothing in the kernel log. Nothing in Xorg.0.log
[18:25] <hr49_pi> catalinn: if you have somewhere to back up your data (just in case), you can repartition
[18:25] <al8989> CATALINN: i just installed ubuntuon apc a when i inserted the cd into windows it came me an install Option if i wanted to use it
[18:25] <detach-> catalinn: then use a virtual machine
[18:25] <catalinn> well, not upgrade but you know
[18:26] <catalinn> im thinking of the posibilities... will check dvd now to see
[18:26] <hr49_pi> catalinn: you can use the gparted live cd (or put it onto a flash drive with e.g. tuxboot) to repartition your hard drive to give you space for ubuntu
[18:27] <ioria> catalinn i did a usb stick with UUI and there is Wubi on it. but i don't recommend it
[18:28] <hr49_pi> okay, I'm going to see if the same thing happens with nvidia-346-updates as did with xfce4
[18:28] <yacc> Any idea how to debug the X freeze?
[18:29] <hr49_pi> actually, if dpkg encounters an error in an apt install, should I do dpkg --reconfigure -a or apt-get install -f?
[18:29] <hr49_pi> given I have absolutely no idea how to fix the problem otherwise
[18:29] <hr49_pi> nor have I been able to find any similar issues documented
[18:32] <hr49_pi> Does anyone know about systemd dpkg errors?
[18:34] <Rave1> hr49_pi,   not reconfigure    just configure
[18:35] <juniorsa> Hi - I've been trying to install 14.04 lts on an amd system with 2 3TB disks - I partitioned them and created a raid1 drive the install goes fine but when I get to the grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb - it fails (6 times) unable to install grub in /dev/sda "executing 'grub install /dev/sda' failed this is a fatal error - I'm so stuck :(
[18:35] <yacc> Hmm, chvt 1 and chvt 7, took half an eternity, but it seems to have revived my X server :)
[18:36] <hr49_pi> Rave1: thanks, running the command now, but it still seems to encounter error setting up systemd.
[18:36] <detach-> juniorsa: how did you raid-1 those disks?
[18:36] <TJ-> juniorsa: Which RAID did you use, mdraid ?
[18:36] <TJ-> juniorsa: I'll bet the metadata is at the start of the disk and therefore in the way
[18:37] <juniorsa> the installer raid1
[18:37] <al8989> ScrodingersScat: I just seen on wikidevi that both wireless cards the wna1000m and  the wna3100m both have a linux driver thats provided by realtek now so they should both work fine
[18:37] <detach-> so you have /dev/sda1 + /dev/sdb1 = /dev/md0?
[18:37] <detach-> or /dev/sda + /dev/sdb = /dev/md0
[18:37] <juniorsa> yes /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb3
[18:38] <detach-> ok
[18:38] <TJ-> juniorsa: OK, so mdraid. You'd need to ensure it used metadata version 1.0 rather than the default 1.2 (at the beginning)
[18:38] <juniorsa> how do I do that?
[18:39] <TJ-> juniorsa: If you've raided the partitions, not the entire device, then the metadata version doesn't matter
[18:40] <juniorsa> I've raided the partition not the device and still won't install
[18:40] <juniorsa> I always create a raid1 and then install
[18:40] <bao_> hi
[18:40] <juniorsa> is there a better way?
[18:40] <al8989> SchrodingersScat: how would i go about installingthe realtek driver once i download it as i never isntalled the driver before because my hardware has always been found
[18:40] <TJ-> juniorsa: I'd suspect there's something unusual in the way you've configured the partitioning
[18:41] <TJ-> juniorsa: are you able to use the system right now, and does it have a network connection?
[18:41] <juniorsa> I have the network working fine - it connects to the internet but I can't finish the install so it is not a working system :(
[18:42] <TJ-> juniorsa: If you have a terminal on it, do this and tell us the URL: "lsblk | pastebinit"
[18:42] <TJ-> juniorsa: hopefully pastebinit package is installed by default - if not, install it
[18:43] <juniorsa> I'll try but now I have to go through the whole install again :(
[18:43] <SchrodingersScat> al8989: that's the thing, it may have already been solved by now, not sure.
[18:43] <TJ-> juniorsa: no you don't, just switch to a terminal
[18:43] <TJ-> juniorsa: IS it the Live Desktop installer?
[18:44] <juniorsa> TJ: too late I've rebooted :(
[18:44] <juniorsa> it's not a live desktop installer
[18:45] <TJ-> juniorsa: oh well :(
[18:45] <TJ-> juniorsa: what is it, server?
[18:45] <juniorsa> yes server install
[18:45] <ubuntu_> scrren-x
[18:45] <ubuntu_> screen-x
[18:45] <ubuntu_> disconnect
[18:45] <TJ-> juniorsa: Then it has a "drop to shell" option towards the bottom of the installer menu
[18:46] <juniorsa> so when I get to that error I drop to shell? - any advice on partitioning? should I do lvm? I don't usually I like to have raid1 on the boot drive
[18:47] <TJ-> juniorsa: I usually have RAID-1 at least on the 'bare' drives and use LVM on that so I can (re)assign extents as needed
[18:48] <juniorsa> ok
[18:48] <al8989> SchrodingersScat: thank you so much for the help
[18:48] <juniorsa> is it safe to just raid1 the 2 3tb drives?
[18:49] <TJ-> juniorsa: that's mirrored them, it's easiest if 1 fails as long as you have a spare in place quickly to rebuild the array to since the other drive could die whilst its alone
[18:50] <TJ-> juniorsa: remember that if drives from the same batch fail they'll often fail around the same time
[18:50] <detach-> good tip from TJ- there
[18:51] <detach-> that's generally very true
[18:51] <detach-> 3TB seagates = terrible btw
[18:51] <juniorsa> true
[18:51] <juniorsa> thanks
[18:52] <juniorsa> is ext4 adviseable? or ext3
[18:52] <detach-> ext4 is fine
[18:53] <juniorsa> cool
[18:53] <TJ-> I sometimes have fin in my lab here testing failure scenarios; I've got a 12-channel IDE controller and I can play around with various configs and then killing power to 1 or more drives to see how the OS copes. Can be revealing how vulnerable even supposedly good protection is
[18:55] <amjad> Hey guys. Can anyone tell me how Ubuntu fares on macbooks?
[18:55] <Sholira> Hi =) I have a small issue with my ubuntu
[18:55] <xangua> !mac
[18:56] <Sholira> since I did a software update my ubuntu account on a dual boot is stuck in a login loop
[18:56] <Fleuv> Hey, how do I permanently add something to my firewall via terminal (iptable)?
[18:56] <amjad> Thanks for the link ubottu.
[18:56] <Sholira> I've been to a helpdesk at my university. they have a computer there with the same issue
[18:57] <Fleuv> nvm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66890/
[18:58] <ioria> Sholira, can you open a terminal ?
[18:58] <Sholira> tty yes
[18:58] <ioria> Sholira, ls -al ~/.Xauthority
[18:58] <Sholira> I can also boot in recovery mode, but then again it also gets stuck in a login loop
[18:59] <Jordan_U> Sholira: Please describe what happens when you try to login.
[19:00] <Sholira> when I enter my password it seems to login, then after a short time the screen goes black and then goes back to the login screen
[19:00] <BobTheAngryCat> hi noobs and faggots. So There isn't a /dev/audio in ubuntu? Are there anything similar, to where you can pipe anything to the speakers?
[19:00] <sh0t> HI guys i had to install ghc from source ball cause i needed a newer version
[19:00] <Sholira> and the ls gives -rw------ username username 61 jun
[19:00] <sh0t> now i get this: http://pastebin.com/F9Cq6E39
[19:01] <ioria> Sholira, sudo service lightdm restart
[19:01] <BobTheAngryCat> Sholira: "after a short time", how short is that?
[19:01] <Sholira> ~10 sec
[19:01] <BobTheAngryCat> or just do what the ioria noob said :). Could fix it
[19:01] <Sholira> didn't really count
[19:01] <BobTheAngryCat> Sholira: does it matter if you type things?
[19:01] <Jordan_U> BobTheAngryCat: Homophobic slurs are not acceptable in this channel.
[19:01] <Sholira> what do you mean by that BobTheAngryCat?
[19:02] <BobTheAngryCat> Jordan_U: fag = beautiful. I do not have your homophobic reference of things
[19:02] <juniorsa> do I do something before it asks to install grub?
[19:02] <BobTheAngryCat> Sholira: well, if you login, and start typing a command, can you do that or can't you even type anything?
[19:03] <Sholira> ioria I did what you said but the same issue
[19:03] <Jordan_U> BobTheAngryCat: This is not up for discussion. Do not use homophobic language in this channel. The next time will result in a ban.
[19:03] <BobTheAngryCat> Jordan_U: what I said, I still stand by it. I speak English, you speak some other language.
[19:03] <Sholira> BobTheAngryCat: time too short (my aprox should have been <5s)
[19:04] <Jordan_U> BobTheAngryCat: If you wish to discuss your mute, please join #ubuntu-ops.
[19:05] <sh0t> can anyone help me installing all this very new software: ?
[19:05] <sh0t> http://pastebin.com/p3wBWeie
[19:05] <ioria> Sholira, nvidia ?
[19:06] <Sholira> ioria, my laptop uses intel for graphics...
[19:07] <ioria> Sholira, sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log
[19:07] <juniorsa> ok I'm at a shell - it failed again - what do I do now?
[19:08] <Sholira> ioria, what should I see there?
[19:08] <juniorsa> TJ: help? - lol
[19:08] <ioria> Sholira, like error, invalid argument ....
[19:09] <Sholira> ioria, nothing seems to be off then =/
[19:10] <hplc> what filesystem to go for if i gonna redo the external disk anyway?
[19:10] <ioria> Sholira, try to reinstall it
[19:11] <bilal> having problems with screen tearing in linux mint
[19:11] <ioria> Sholira, no, useless
[19:11] <k1l_> !mint | bilal please see the mint specialists
[19:12] <bilal> ok thanks
[19:12] <Sholira> ioria, was thinking the same tbh, and reinstalling ubuntu is out of order as well (will run into the same issue)
[19:13] <ioria> Sholira, check ~/.xsession-errors.old or .xsession-errors
[19:14] <Sholira> ioria, it does give errors, but I don't know what to do with them
[19:14] <ioria> Sholira, paste it maybe someone know the issue
[19:14] <ioria> *s
[19:19] <Jordan_U> hplc: If you're not doing anything exceptionally wierd, ext4 is pretty much always a good choice. If you want snapshotting and reflink features you'll need zfs or btrfs, but zfs has the disadvantage of not being part of the mainline kernel (and so require installation of additional packages on any machine you want to use it with) and btrfs has the disadvantage of still needing more time to mature.
[19:20] <hplc> Jordan_U, very many snapshots / day yes
[19:21] <detach-> hplc: looks like you got your answer here ;)
[19:21] <Jordan_U> hplc: Then xfs isn't even an option (and neither is ext4).
[19:22] <Fleuv> Hmm why I don't have permissions? $ sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.new.conf
[19:22] <Fleuv> -bash: /etc/iptables.new.conf: Permission denied
[19:22] <bindi> Fleuv: use sudo -i and then do iptables-save > /....
[19:22] <Jordan_U> hplc: You may want to reconsider doing many snapshots per day though. Copy on write inherently leads to fragmentation, and having tons of snapshots means that it's not even possible to defragment.
[19:23] <Fleuv> thanks bindi, didn't know that :O
[19:23] <danishanish> hello guys i am new to ubuntu and linux in general
[19:23] <danishanish> and am starting to make some scripts
[19:23] <danishanish> should i use vi, vim, emacs, or nano?
[19:23] <Pici> danishanish: whatever you like the best.
[19:23] <danishanish> thing is though im not sure which are "best" or most powerful
[19:24] <danishanish> apparently emacs is larger
[19:24] <danishanish> but more powerful?
[19:24] <Pici> danishanish: vim and emacs are the most powerful out of the list.
[19:24] <Pici> The discussion of vim vs. emacs tends to cause wars.
[19:25] <danishanish> so its like an android/apple or pc/mac/linux thing?
[19:25] <Pici> danishanish: yeah ;)
[19:25] <danishanish> hm, ill do some more research then
[19:25] <danishanish> thank you!
[19:25] <Jordan_U> danishanish: If you want to learn vim I recommend starting by running "vimtutor".
[19:27] <hplc> Jordan_U, the smaller (somewhat faster" ext hdd may just get btrfs, but the other 1TB disk?, usually those i use for longtime storage / true backups
[19:28] <PJkeeh> Any way to catch notifications on ubuntu touch and send it to an app?
[19:28] <hplc> Jordan_U, security in every sense is usually more important on that, what suits better on that one?
[19:30] <Jordan_U> hplc: zfs is more stable than btrfs at the moment.
[19:30] <hplc> Jordan_U, ok
[19:30] <hplc> Jordan_U, so maybe zfs on both?
[19:31] <Jordan_U> hplc: That's up to you.
[19:31] <hplc> i feel kinda lost
[19:34] <nandu> hi
[19:35] <nandu> hello all
[19:46] <Cpuroast> !webmin
[19:46] <Cpuroast> that's so wrong
[19:46] <Cpuroast> and not accurate
[19:46] <Cpuroast> Debian still fully supports Debian and Ubuntu
[19:46] <detach-> !hashtags
[19:46] <Cpuroast> oups
[19:47] <Cpuroast> I meant webmin
[19:47] <detach-> no support for hashtags? and emoji?
[19:47] <Eldunar> hello. I had exercise in mt university, but during making of this i have got this error: http://pastebin.com/66hYL2Yk can u tell me how to fix this?
[19:48] <zykotick9> Cpuroast: fyi, #debian's webmin factoid pasted to http://paste.ubuntu.com/11678608/
[19:48] <detach-> Eldunar: erm ask your teacher?
[19:48] <guntbert> !here | Eldunar
[19:50] <Eldunar> Thats just the problem with this maxima. When i tried this code during lesson everything gone fine. But here sth is wrong with file "/usr/share/maxima/5.35.1/share/lsquares/lsquares.mac". But i do not know how to fix this
[19:51] <Agent_Acht> cheers everyone - end of line
[19:52] <neurot> zykotick9 that is stupid
[19:53] <zykotick9> neurot: s/that/webmin/ and i'd agree ;)
[19:54] <detach-> hilarious
[19:55] <Jordan_U> juniorsa: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts .
[19:55] <neurot> zykotick9 webmin has been very helpful for me, but we all have our opinions
[19:55] <neurot> :-)
[19:56] <juniorsa> I waited and waited so now I'm trying to install using debian 8 - :( wanted to stick to ubuntu - if this fails I'll try 15.04 and pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts
[19:59] <JinjaNinja> Hi there. I know this is the Ubuntu chan, but I was wondering if someone could help out with this, since it partially has to deal with Ubuntu. Is there a way to install all of the (AUDIO only) packages that come with Ubuntu Studio, and install it onto Ubuntu?
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> JinjaNinja: you could try aptoncd to backup your fav audio packages
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> JinjaNinja: then install them to ubuntu
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | JinjaNinja
[20:01] <zykotick9> JinjaNinja: check out the ubuntustudio-audio metapackage
[20:01] <JinjaNinja> lotuspsychje, I was hoping there was a PPA that I could use, to install the Audio/ DAW softwares that come with Ubuntu Studio
[20:01] <Jordan_U> JinjaNinja: Run "sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop" and look at the list of packages it tries to install. Install the ones relating to audio manually.
[20:02] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: see my suggestion above ;)
[20:02] <JinjaNinja> zykotick9's answer looks to be the most promising. :)
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | zykotick9
[20:03] <Jordan_U> JinjaNinja: Looks like in 15.04 there is also an ubuntustudio-audio-core metapackage.
[20:03] <zykotick9> ummm  that was a good cookie ;)
[20:03] <JinjaNinja> zykotick9, would this install every audio-only package that is included with ubuntu studio?
[20:03] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: JinjaNinja: D'oh, indeed zykotick9's suggestion is better than both of mine :)
[20:03] <zykotick9> JinjaNinja: i'd suspect so, but certainly have zero first hand experience
[20:05] <JinjaNinja> I only want to have the audio suite that comes with ubuntu studio, and install that onto Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, as I am not interested in all of the other stuff included on Ubuntu Studio, (I'm a musician, Ubuntu Studio's stuff is too excessive, although It'd be great to have it's audio suite.)
[20:06] <JinjaNinja> So I'll go with zykotick9's suggestion. Should I do 15.04's metapackage or 14.04?
[20:08] <Fleuv> Hey, I've got some trouble with my smtp server. When I send an email to my dad (downloads via outlook web) it takes an half hour before the mail appears in his inbox. For me (gmail user) it's within a few sec.
[20:09] <scobol> list
[20:09] <detach-> did the mail arrive at your smtp server on time (check your logs)
[20:09] <detach-> telnet to your smtp server, is there a delay before the banner appears?
[20:10] <Fleuv> The only problem I detect using mxtoolbox is that the smtp server connection & transaction is to high/not good.
[20:10] <Whitor> Hi All,  14.04 LTS here.  There is a white border that occurs on all prints from every application in (my) ubuntu to every printer we have in house.   Is anyone aware of an area where I can turn off borders and allow edge to edge printing?    (The printer supports it and the windows drivers have an optoin to print edge to edge
[20:10] <Jordan_U> JinjaNinja: Just "sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio". It's just like any other package, so when you install it you'll get the package for the version of Ubuntu you're using, which is 14.04. "sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio-core" won't work in Ubuntu (or Ubuntu Studio) 14.04, because the package doesn't exist, but "ubuntustudio-audio" is probably more what you want anyway.
[20:10] <Fleuv> let me have a look detach-
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> Whitor: photo printing or text printing?
[20:11] <JinjaNinja> Jordan_U: Thanks :) I'll report back and tell you how it goes.
[20:12] <JinjaNinja> (I'm still on Ubuntu studio, I'm making a live USB install stick of
[20:12] <JinjaNinja> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> JinjaNinja: you can apt-get download packagename also and backup all your .deb
[20:13] <sokoll> Can someone tell me the difference between a snapshot and an image?
[20:13] <Whitor> lotuspsychje, both... in a libre office document
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> Whitor: maybe the #libreoffice guys can help you?
[20:13] <JinjaNinja> sokall: A snapshot is a beta version of a completed image, which still has yet to be released to the public. Snapshots are generally unstable.
[20:13] <Whitor> lotuspsychje, great! I'll try over there. thanks !
[20:14] <JinjaNinja> sokoll*
[20:14] <sokoll> JinjaNinja: I mean with regards to backups
[20:14] <Whitor> sokoll, a snapshot is a differential backup, an image is complete
[20:14] <JinjaNinja> sokoll, oh.
[20:14] <sokoll> Whitor: thanks :D
[20:14] <bekks> Snapshots are never backups.
[20:14] <sokoll> JinjaNinja: also thanks :) sorry, should have been more explicit
[20:14] <Whitor> bekks, yes
[20:15] <JinjaNinja> I thought you were talking about a snapshot as in, a beta Linux distro. Lol.
[20:15] <Whitor> a snapshot is just a way to go back to a certain period of time... kinda like rolling back the clock
[20:15] <sokoll> JinjaNinja: no :P sorry
[20:15] <Whitor> you can't pull files from it... and you can't use it to recover onto a different computer
[20:15] <sokoll> Whitor: so if I had an instance of something, say a whole ubuntu instance
[20:16] <Fleuv> detach-, I'm not sure what to look for it looks pretty okay at /var/log/mail.log -> http://pastebin.com/qMCfRHVz
[20:16] <sokoll> Whitor: and I wanted to duplicate that instance, to create a development version of it
[20:16] <sokoll> Whitor: would I use snapshot or image?
[20:16] <Whitor> duplicate onto a different machine ?
[20:17] <Whitor> sokoll, ^^
[20:17] <bekks> sokoll: You would image it to a different machine.
[20:17] <sokoll> Whitor: so like a cloud instance or something
[20:17] <sokoll> Whitor: AWS?
[20:17] <Whitor> sokoll, Check out Clonezilla
[20:17] <sokoll> Whitor: We use CPM with AWS
[20:17] <Whitor> oh... it depends on your cloud provider
[20:18] <detach-> Fleuv: i don't think you understand what i meant. at the time you sent an e-mail, did the email arrive at the SMTP server? you should be seeing the public IP address of the sender mail serer ,e.g. if you sent from gmail then you will see Google's mail server connecting to you
[20:19] <Whitor> it it were a vmware esxi host, I'd create a forked virtual machine
[20:19] <Fleuv> thanks detach- I will look into it first i will fix: https://forum.vestacp.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5514#p22944
[20:20] <extraricular> hola!
[20:20] <extraricular> holaaaa!!!!!!
[20:20] <Indigaz> hello
[20:21] <6A4ACSXJX> que cuentan?
[20:25] <docmur> I have to clone two drives, the original drive is a 1.0TB and the new one is only 500GB, the 1.0TB is fairly empty < 100GB used, so what is the best took to clone the 1.0TB to the 500GB?  Can dd work with different sized drives?  I'm on ubuntu live cd
[20:26] <mcphail> docmur: you can pipe dd through gzip or whatever
[20:27] <wesley9946> docmur: or you can use parted magic
[20:27] <mcphail> docmur: if yo actually want to _use_ the filesystem on the 500GB drive you'd be better recreating the filesystem and copying
[20:28] <Jordan_U> docmur: What is your end goal? Why not just copy the files as files?
[20:29] <docmur> The old drive already contains the OS,data and program, I literally want to clone it to a SSD
[20:29] <histo> docmur: what os is on it?
[20:29] <docmur> Windows
[20:30] <histo> ugghhh
[20:30] <wesley9946> clonezilla
[20:30] <histo> wesley9946: clonezilla won't clone to a smaller drive
[20:30] <histo> docmur: you'd have to use somehting like rsync or tar
[20:30] <histo> after setting up your partitions on the new ssd
[20:32] <detach-> Windows?
[20:32] <detach-> HEEEEEEE
[20:32] <detach-> no
[20:32] <histo> docmur: you could run  chkdisk on the old drive, resize the partition and then clone it
[20:32] <histo> docmur: just shrink it to smaller than the new drive then clone the partitions
[20:32] <docmur> ya I was just thinking that
[20:33] <histo> docmur: make sure you chkdisk with Windblows first before shrinking. Why are you asking about windows here anyways?
[20:33] <docmur> I'm not, I'm asking about cloning, the drive just happens to be a Window sOS
[20:34] <Ben64> its not an ubuntu issue though
[20:34] <docmur> Except that I'm running Ubuntu to preform the clone
[20:35] <juniorsa> Jordan_U: here is a picture of the /proc/mounts http://picpaste.com/ubuntu-gZpVH39F.jpg
[20:35] <beterraba> a clone?
[20:35] <beterraba> like in the clone wars?
[20:35] <Ben64> i'm sure ##windows could give you the best way to clone windows
[20:35] <detach-> docmur: you are running the wrong thing
[20:36] <k1l_> docmur: what about you plain dd the old disk to the new one.
[20:36] <histo> k1l_: different sizes
[20:37] <Ben64> old one is 2x the size k1l_
[20:37] <mwestermann> hi guys.. I  am wondering if I can log off a unity session Im not in. I have the following problem: I left my pc logged on with some programs open ( eg. chrome, intellij) now I logged in remotely via xrdp to a mate session.. but if I open a program in mate it is not shown.. I guess it is opened in my unity session
[20:37] <Ben64> mwestermann: you could probably open stuff using something like "DISPLAY=:1 google-chrome"
[20:37] <histo> mwestermann: you could restart lightdm but that might kill your mate session as well
[20:38] <k1l_> well, delete enough stuff to match the size. then reduce the partition to that size  so it doesnt store stuff at the end of partition that will get lost. then dd and when it stops while the new disk is full, you will not loose data
[20:38] <beterraba> help clone
[20:38] <beterraba> info clone
[20:38] <beterraba> info clone wars
[20:38] <mwestermann> histo but I  can relogin to my mate session ?!
[20:38] <beterraba> info mace windu
[20:38] <beterraba> help dark raven
[20:38] <Ben64> mwestermann: try using DISPLAY=:1
[20:39] <beterraba> info darth
[20:39] <beterraba> display darth
[20:39] <Ben64> beterraba: stop that
[20:39] <beterraba> ok :(
[20:39] <mwestermann> Ben64, ok trying
[20:40] <histo> mwestermann: yes
[20:40] <histo> mwestermann: using DISPLAY is a better solution though
[20:42] <beterraba> hey guys, be happy
[20:42] <mwestermann> Ben64 getting error: cannot open display: :1
[20:43] <Ben64> mwestermann: must be a different number then
[20:44] <asterai> Hi
[20:44] <mwestermann> Ben64 can I figure out the number?
[20:44] <mwestermann> or do I have to try
[20:44] <Ben64> if you can get a terminal up, you can use "echo $DISPLAY"
[20:45] <asterai> Guys, i want tocontribute the ubuntu where i can get a task, or mentor, or team lead contacts?
[20:45] <k1l_> !contribute | asterai
[20:46] <mwestermann> Ben64, :-) just tried 1-10 but $DISPLAY is 11
 I cant understand what a need to do...
[20:47] <asterai> Why so hard for start contributing? :'(
[20:47] <k1l_> asterai: see the links the bot gave you. where you can contribute depends on what skills you have.
[20:48] <mwestermann> Ben64, now getting errors: xlib: extension "XInputExtension" missing on display 11 and the the info, that a new window was opened in actual browser session
[20:49] <Ben64> mwestermann: very strange
[20:49] <mwestermann> Ben64, will try to restart lightdm
[20:50] <al8989> hello im am trying to install hplip latest version but it is hanging at the dependancy and conflict resolution step
[20:50] <al8989> of the setup
[20:51] <mwestermann> Ben64, restarrt lightdm did the trick.. I kept connected to mate and now programs are opened in my mate session
[20:55] <beterraba> u guys so hack
[20:55] <beterraba> *_*
[20:55] <beterraba> <3
[20:56] <k1l_> beterraba: please stop that random comments in here. we try to keep this channel support only.
[20:56] <beterraba> ok :(
[20:56] <beterraba> but i mean, ure so dedicated to help other people.. i find it fascinating
[20:57] <beterraba> i'd wish i had the means and the disposition to be so supportive
[20:58] <beterraba> this network in genreal, including this channel, is something beautifull humanity achieved.. i'm proud of you guys
[21:01] <al8989> hello can anyone help me install the hplip software?
[21:09] <nicomachus> Hey guys, I just bought a new external HDD to backup a PC and it's NTFS. Do I need to convert to ext4?
[21:10] <k1l_> what do you want to do exactly with it? just use it on that (or other) ubuntu/linux boxes or windows boxes too?
[21:10] <nicomachus> it will probably end up seeing a mix of ubuntu and windows.
[21:11] <umbra_purus> can someone please tell me how do I install the wifi drivers? I've downloaded the drivers but since the tutorial is using files that are not in the tar.gz file i don't know what to do
[21:11] <histo> nicomachus: you can run whatever filesystem you want on it.
[21:11] <k1l_> in short: if you want to plug that into windows machines you will need ntfs. but than you cant just place all files plain on that partition, because the file permissions will be spoiled. you need to use packaging or imaging for that then
[21:11] <histo> umbra_purus: what wifi chipset?
[21:14] <umbra_purus> histo: I can't tell you right now because I'm not in linux. The brings the second question. How can I talk in irc channels in linux? I've tried Konversation but I can't set it up
[21:14] <umbra_purus> :(
[21:15] <pbx> in the last day my notifications have changed from floating windows to small pale-blue boxes in the upper left.  i certainly set this preference once but now i can't find it. where does it live? (also, why might have it changed? i installed i3, that's all i can think of)
[21:15] <pbx> 14.04, linux, unity
[21:15] <Fuchs> umbra_purus: where exactly are you stuck? It should be pretty easy
[21:15] <zenko> hello, i'm using 14.04.2 LTS and i'm interested in configuring cpusets. i've read the kernel docs but the system is not reacting as i expect. does anyone have experience with it?
[21:15] <k1l_> umbra_purus: what desktop do you use?
[21:15] <Fuchs> umbra_purus: I mean worst case there is always  https://webchat.freenode.net
[21:15] <pbx> umbra_purus, xchat is primitive but servicable
[21:15] <umbra_purus> then I'll try webchat and come back
[21:16] <Fuchs> if you plan to go for xchat, go with hexchat instead. It's a fork, it's better.
[21:16] <umbra_purus> okay
[21:16] <umbra_purus> thanks
[21:16] <umbra_purus> hexhcat you say
[21:16] <histo> weechat
[21:16] <Fuchs> umbra_purus: on gnome or XFCE: yes
[21:16] <Fuchs> on KDE I'd go with konversation. But if you are stuck, you can always use webchat to get hep
[21:16] <Fuchs> *help
[21:16] <umbra_purus> I think elementary, which is based on ubuntu, uses xfce
[21:17] <k1l_> umbra_purus: for elementary you will need to ask their support.
[21:17] <Fuchs> yeah, give hexchat a go.
[21:17] <k1l_> !elementary | umbra_purus
[21:18] <umbra_purus> thanks k1l that's really useful
[21:19] <seijirou> fibre channel fun anybody?
[21:21] <xangua> !alis
[21:21] <pbx> ha not that kind of channel
[21:23] <daftykins> seijirou: ##networking is up your alley.
[21:23] <seijirou> @daftykins thank you!
[21:30] <duckx0r> Is there any way to use /etc/hosts (or other) to map a hostname to another hostname instead of to a specific IP address?
[21:33] <seijirou> duckx0r:  try    echo "fakehost realhost" > /etc/host.aliases
[21:34] <arg> I'm havving issues trying to print to my canon wireless printer
[21:34] <arg> any help?
[21:34] <seijirou> better, check this out and see if you can find something that will work for you here.  http://serverfault.com/questions/65199/is-it-possible-to-alias-a-hostname-in-linux
[21:34] <daftykins> !details | arg
[21:34] <duckx0r> seijirou, I tried that but it didn't work.
[21:35] <arg> daftykins: I have the printer on my printer list and when I click print test page, the printer  doesn't actually print but the computer says it completed. It was working before but now it isn't
[21:36] <daftykins> arg: USB attached or network?
[21:36] <duckx0r> seijirou, oh. host.aliases. I misread. I'll give that a go.
[21:36] <arg> daftykins: it's networked by wireless
[21:36] <daftykins> yeah so... network attached
[21:37] <daftykins> arg: confirm the IP is correct, along with the printer queue name or port if RAW/LPR
[21:37] <daftykins> ideally in CUPS config.
[21:37] <arg> daftykins: how do i access?
[21:38] <daftykins> http://localhost:631 perhaps
[21:39] <cqx> hello
[21:40] <imjacobclark> cqx: hi
[21:40] <arg> daftykins: and which tab/option has this info?
[21:41] <daftykins> arg: you're on your own now
[21:44] <asmodai_> how can I find which ports are currently open on my system and which process is using it please?
[21:44] <daftykins> "netstat -tuln"
[21:44] <daftykins> oh processes using, hrmm i forget that one...
[21:45] <popey> p
[21:45] <popey> netstat -tupl
[21:45] <graff> hi
[21:45] <daftykins> lsof ?
[21:45] <arg> Also my laptop is overheating, how can i adjust the fans on ubuntu?
[21:45] <daftykins> if it's overheating you need to take it apart and clean it
[21:45] <graff> много тут людей много
[21:45] <daftykins> !ru | graff
[21:45] <nicomachus> lol dafty
[21:45] <daftykins> nicomachus: what's funny?
[21:45] <arg> daftykins: i don't even hear the fans
[21:46] <arg> really
[21:46] <nicomachus> I love the way you handle them sometimes. just observing and waiting for a lull
[21:46] <asmodai_> ok brb
[21:46] <daftykins> with legitimate help you mean? ah ok, glad it's amusing :>
[21:46] <nicomachus> hey, legitimate help CAN be amusing. :)
[21:47] <asmodai_> ok so how do I determine if I should close the port or not?
[21:47] <daftykins> arg: if they don't spin at power on, you might have bigger fish to fry
[21:47] <asmodai_> ok so how do I determine if I should close the port or not?
[21:47] <daftykins> asmodai_: sharing some output via paste.ubuntu.com would be a good start
[21:47] <asmodai_> sorry for repeat post
[21:48] <asmodai_> ok just a moment
[21:48] <daftykins> but if you're behind a NAT router, you shouldn't be worried unless you're forwarding these.
[21:48] <arg> daftykins: I meant the fans are barely blowing, and they're not near full speed
[21:48] <daftykins> arg: right but this is typically controller by ACPI, so cleaning is still a legitimate angle
[21:48] <daftykins> *controlled
[21:48] <arg> daftykins: how do i check if ACPI is functioning properly?
[21:49] <daftykins> determined to ignore the cleaning idea eh :D
[21:49] <arg> daftykins: i'm still trying to fix my printer issue so i can't do that atm
[21:49] <daftykins> well what do the numbers from lmsensors look like?
[21:49] <arg> and i need to print a plane ticket
[21:50] <arg> don't have lmsensors
[21:50] <daftykins> yeah you need to install it...
[21:50] <daftykins> lm-sensors
[21:51] <asmodai_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11680425/
[21:52] <arg> there's no command for lm-sensors or lmsensors
[21:52] <daftykins> asmodai_: yeah so none of that is an issue to me
[21:53] <daftykins> arg: "sensors" -
[21:53] <daftykins> arg: you give up too easily :)
[21:53] <arg> it's going over 90 celcius
[21:53] <daftykins> ubuntu the only OS on this laptop?
[21:53] <arg> daftykins: yeah
[21:53] <asmodai_> ok but I was using TIGER yesterday and it stated there were some issues that required my attention
[21:53] <daftykins> asmodai_: and what is that?
[21:54] <asmodai_> just a sec ill paste bin that too
[21:55] <nicomachus> just putting this out for whenever there's a lull: I'm trying to backup a PC that won't boot, and I'm in a live session right now. I can access the files I want to backup from one terminal, and I can access the external HDD from another, but how do I send the files from one to the other?
[21:55] <asmodai_> damn.... cant find the tiger log i had
[21:56] <nicomachus> rsync?
[21:56] <daftykins> nicomachus: rsync, or just backup the lot with clonezilla
[21:56] <asmodai_> got it
[21:56] <k1l_> nicomachus: 2 terminals?
[21:56] <nicomachus> daftykins: what would be the destination then (if I send them from the terminal where I have chroot into the mounted drives)
[21:56] <jtoman> Something happened yesterday after I tried to use my HDMI card for audio output for the first time and now pulseaudio no longer shows any output devices (except the null one)
[21:56] <daftykins> nicomachus: whatever the mount point of the drive is... type "mount" and look for the corresponding /dev/sdX
[21:57] <k1l_> nicomachus: why do you need a chroot? you could just mount the drive so you can access the data
[21:57] <jtoman> I've tried restarting it and clearing out the contents of ~/.config/pulse to no avail
[21:57] <daftykins> +1 to the chroot idea sounding like making life harder for yourself
[21:58] <nicomachus> k1l_: I have an encrypted drive temporarily mounted in /tmp/ecryptfs.xxxxxxx, using this method: http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[21:58] <nicomachus> the only way I can access that /tmp/ecrypt folder is if I have chroot /mnt
[21:59] <k1l_> nicomachus: i dont think you need a chroot. but i am not too much into the encryption things
[21:59] <jtoman> fwiw, alsamixer seems to be able to detect my soundcards.
[21:59] <EriC^^> nicomachus: did you try ls -l /mnt/tmp/ecrypt... from another terminal?
[22:00] <nicomachus> EriC^^: cannot access.
[22:00] <EriC^^> is it a luks encrypted partition?
[22:00] <nicomachus> yes
[22:01] <EriC^^> reboot the live usb and just mount it as usual
[22:01] <EriC^^> do you have the passphrase?
[22:01] <nicomachus> EriC^^: I have to mount it this way: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11680512/
[22:01] <nicomachus> those are your commands, btw
[22:01] <daftykins> uh-oh named and shamed! :>
[22:02] <EriC^^> nicomachus: there's no need for the chroot and for i.. that was for reinstalling grub or something
[22:02] <asmodai_> I was also going to ask if there is a way I can disable ipv6 for an extra layer of security
[22:02] <EriC^^> daftykins: :p
[22:02] <nicomachus> yea, EriC^^, that was when we were trying to resolve the issue of the grub config trying to boot 3.13 instead of 3.19
[22:02] <EriC^^> nicomachus: exit the chroot, and type ls -l /mnt/ it should be there
[22:03] <nicomachus> ok yea I see it
[22:03] <EriC^^> no /tmp/ecrypt..
[22:03] <EriC^^> ok, so you're trying to copy stuff from it to another hdd?
[22:03] <nicomachus> yea, an external
[22:04] <EriC^^> ok, did you mount the partition?
[22:04] <nicomachus> going to copy a few folders from the Home and then just wipe it.
[22:04] <nicomachus> I mounted the external, yea.
[22:04] <nicomachus> so I should be able to rsync from here
[22:04] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo rsync -av /mnt/home /path/to/hdd
[22:05] <nicomachus> gonna want an -r in there.
[22:05] <daftykins> you can have --progress for some lovely stats
[22:05] <EriC^^> -a has -r too
[22:05] <daftykins> +even
[22:07] <nicomachus> and they're off!
[22:08] <nicomachus> which file will cross the finish line first? I've got 5-1 odds on /Videos!
[22:08] <asmodai_> nichomachus any games on there?
[22:08] <asmodai_> if so then mine are on the games
[22:08] <nicomachus> asmodai_: about 50gb of N64 roms
[22:09] <asmodai_> games then
[22:09] <asmodai_> well.... how many gigs of films
[22:09] <nicomachus> 70ish.
[22:09] <nicomachus> and then 400+ of music
[22:09] <daftykins> lets get back on topic now please people
[22:09] <nicomachus> yessir
[22:09] <nicomachus> thanks for the all the help everyone.
[22:09] <daftykins> as enjoyable as the content of your drives is, you may share it all in PM :)
[22:09] <asmodai_> 400 plus gigs of music?
[22:10] <nicomachus> I'll be in #ubuntu-offtopic discussing my drives.
[22:10] <asmodai_> yeah sorry i forget just trying to half abit of a laugh.... ill get back to subject in question
[22:11] <asmodai_> right so if I refuse connections from ipv6 does it add an extra layer of security to my network?
[22:12] <daftykins> you still haven't shown what this TIGER thing was, nor explained why you're worried about network security if you're home behind a router
[22:12] <daftykins> but yeah if you don't use IPv6 by all means turn it off
[22:12] <asmodai_> i know im waiting for it to run another scan. the log file shows empty when i nano into it
[22:13] <Kully3xf> are you sudo nano
[22:13] <asmodai_> how do  turn it off? I edited the connections to straight ignore it in network manager
[22:13] <asmodai_> yes it was sudo nano otherwise tiger wont let me in
[22:15] <Kully3xf> are you just securing your home network?
[22:15] <asmodai_> yes
[22:16] <EriC^^> asmodai_: sudo tailf /file follows the file i think
[22:16] <Kully3xf> why not just lock it down with your router
[22:16] <asmodai_> because I'm not a network junkie....... yet
[22:17] <asmodai_> its more the know how in case the router is ever breached than anything
[22:17] <nicomachus> asmodai_: spend some time in ##networking. you'll pick it up.
[22:17] <Kully3xf> seems a bit over kill, but if you're trying to learn check out ##networking and #ubuntu-server
[22:17] <asmodai_> damn dude ive like 9 gigs of cbt nuggets to go through in networking..... and right now i dont have the time to watch it
[22:18] <Kully3xf> cbt nuggets will only get you so far - experience is the rest
[22:19] <asmodai_> well yes im aware of that. cbt nuggets helped me to understand the concept of linux filesystem. im just starting to get my head around it
[22:19] <nicomachus> asmodai_: we're kinda off-topic now, but set up a home server and you'll get some experience.
[22:21] <asmodai_> is there a select all option in nano?
[22:22] <nicomachus> hmm... rsync seems to have frozen.
[22:23] <nicomachus> stuck on this one file at 11% for the last few minutes.
[22:23] <nicomachus> uh oh. scratch that. the whole thing's frozen. :'(
[22:23] <daftykins> asmodai_: "pastebinit file" will throw a log up, no need to mess with editors
[22:24] <asmodai_> what in terminal? o.O
[22:25] <asmodai_> so pastebinit <nameoffile>
[22:25] <daftykins> yes
[22:25] <daftykins> after installing it
[22:25] <asmodai_> any arguments required like "/"
[22:25] <daftykins> but yeah you don't want to sit in a text file with an editor that a program is about to write to, really
[22:25] <daftykins> "man pastebinit" :P
[22:26] <k1l_> asmodai_: you can give the path if the file is not in the same directory as you are right now
[22:26] <k1l_> asmodai_: pastebinit /parth/to/file
[22:26] <asmodai_> im in the directory so thats a straight pastebinit
[22:27] <arg> this damn printer won't work again
[22:28] <asmodai_> dude that is sweet!
[22:28] <asmodai_> tak about making life easy
[22:28] <asmodai_> talk*
[22:29] <asmodai_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11681038/
[22:30] <asmodai_> sorry I know there is a very long list of the packages don't belong thing
[22:31] <asmodai_> i mean symlink
[22:31] <k1l_> what script did produce that?
[22:32] <asmodai_> i dont know its the output that tiger showed me yesterday
[22:32] <k1l_> and what is the question you have? :)
[22:33] <asmodai_> well yesterday i used tiger for the first time and it was saying there were ports open yet I wasn't even connected to the net. I always shut it off unless im using it
[22:33] <asmodai_> that was the output
[22:33] <grossi> Alguem do brasil?
[22:33] <k1l_> !br | grossi
[22:33] <asmodai_> I wanted to know if there was an issue with the ports i had open
[22:33] <asmodai_> i dont use ssh or anything like that yet
[22:33] <k1l_> asmodai_: well. open ports are not bad as such.
[22:34] <asmodai_> yes but they have potential for port rattling and I caught someone doing it but didnt know how to prevent it basically
[22:34] <asmodai_> or what to do about it
[22:35] <asmodai_> so i was like great..... what do i do about it
[22:35] <k1l_> if a port is open it means that there is a program listening on that port. and you want some programs to listen on their ports to be able to have a network connection like webbrowser, ssh, etc etc
[22:36] <asmodai_> I accept that fact and there are only two...... tor and firefox
[22:36] <asmodai_> unless i fire up proxy chains
[22:37] <k1l_> and if there is a program listening on that port its not bad at all if that program has some security. so root ssh login with a easy password would be a bad idea :)
[22:38] <asmodai_> all of my passwords are complicated. same variation but always different symbols are used and for different things too. I don't have ssh setup yet though
[22:38] <asmodai_> not until i learn how to use it
[22:40] <asmodai_> in fact that brings me to my next question...... proxy chains...... anyone know of a free site with reliable socks4/5 proxies because all the free ones ive been trying to use suck...... big time
[22:40] <daftykins> asmodai_: all this sounds pretty overblown and paranoid to be quite honest.
[22:40] <daftykins> i think you've done a bit of reading and learnt just enough to be dangerous ;)
[22:40] <k1l_> and imho that tiget thingy is just worse. i gives a huge bunch of flase alarms just making you panic
[22:41] <asmodai_> lol maybe..... and maybe i read my metasploit report correctly and knew what means there could be to get in
[22:41]  * k1l_ cant type right now :/
[22:41] <asmodai_> i know there was going t be false positives but im still learning that
[22:42] <asmodai_> which is going to take time obviously
[22:43] <Peetz0r> hey! I have lvm on top of luks, and I want to rename my luks device. how do I tell LVM that my device name is about to change?
[22:44] <asmodai_> in truth i want to learn to hack systems..... it's no secret or anything and i know it's a very long process of learning. I prefer to get it right on this system before I get it wrong elsewhere.
[22:44] <asmodai_> predominatley white hat but i would do some subversive things if I had to for the overall greater good
[22:46] <JinjaNinja> Any reason why my QJackCTL icon (on the status tray) of my Ubuntu Suite won't show the options? When I click on QJackCTL icon in the status bar, it doesn't show any options, but I know it should.
[22:46] <asmodai_> I mean i know how to use aircrack but it's no good unless i know how to keep me secure before using it. all of the testing ive done has been on my own system.
[22:46] <JinjaNinja> Jack and everything works fine, and cheers for that, but when I click on the status trey icon for QJackCTL, options don't show up
[22:46] <k1l_> asmodai_: obviously we cant help you on breaking the laws :)
[22:47] <asmodai_> Jinjaninja - have you got any tweak tools? like gnome or unity tweak by any chance?
[22:47] <asmodai_> @kil - you're not helping me break the law. You're helping me secure my system...... and that is legal =]
[22:47] <JinjaNinja> asmodai_, I'm not sure about that. What's the package name?
[22:48] <asmodai_> gnome-tweak and unity-tweak
[22:48] <JinjaNinja> Should I install both? I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS btw
[22:49] <asmodai_> no lol
[22:49] <JinjaNinja> so unity-tweak?  :p
[22:49] <asmodai_> im asking if you have them. windows key and search the word tweak
[22:49] <JinjaNinja> Nope
[22:49] <JinjaNinja> I could do a whereis in xterm
[22:50] <asmodai_> it would come staight up in dash search if you had it
[22:50] <asmodai_> i was only checking because i had the issue with ther things along those lines.
[22:51] <asmodai_> have you installed any gtk themes?
[22:51] <JinjaNinja> I don't, so is that the reason why QJackCTL's options don't show up on the status bar?
[22:51] <asmodai_> sometimes they are buggy and muck with the way some things work
[22:52] <JinjaNinja> Well, I installed the metapackage 'ubuntustudio-audio' so I could get all of the audio packages from that distro. I'm a musician so it comes in handy with my normal Unity distro
[22:52] <asmodai_> @jinja im not might have had the experienced enough to say dude. I was just enquiring in case I had the answer
[22:53] <JinjaNinja> I'll install unity-tweak and see if that fixes my status trey icon options issue
[22:53] <asmodai_> no!
[22:53] <asmodai_> ffs
[22:53] <asmodai_> lol
[22:53] <JinjaNinja> o_o
[22:53] <JinjaNinja> Lol
[22:54] <asmodai_> dont use another program to fix what can be fixed without an extra program..... problems upon more probles = things get ugly hehe
[22:54] <JinjaNinja> Gotcha
[22:54] <EriC^^> JinjaNinja: try restart unity-panel-service in a terminal
[22:54] <JinjaNinja> Okay
[22:55] <asmodai_> just ask your question again and someone with alot more experience will help you. just be patient dude these ppl are cool and want to help ok? =]
[22:55] <asmodai_> ok kil and dafty thankyou for your advice. its much appreciated =]
[22:55] <asmodai_> laters all
[22:55] <JinjaNinja> Sure, I'm down with that. Looks like EriC^^ is willing to help :D
[22:56] <JinjaNinja> I'm trying your suggestion now, EriC^^
[22:57] <JinjaNinja> EriC^^, doesn't look like that fixed it. The command issued correctly, but didn't fix the options from coming up
[22:57] <JinjaNinja> It's only for QJackCTL
[22:57] <JinjaNinja> The other status trey icons work
[22:57] <JinjaNinja> QJackCTL doesn't work though
[22:57] <mikubuntu> so is b43-fwcutter part of every installation disk? i'm still trying to figure out how to follow the instructions for 'no internet access' on page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[22:59] <lickalott> gents, i've been to google (2 days worth) and sat in #vsftpd with an extreme amount of patience....  Can I ask some vsftpd questions here
[22:59] <lickalott> i think they are more ftp related but I wanted to throw that out there (vsftpd) just in case
[23:02] <daftykins> lickalott: 99% of users trying to use it in here, shouldn't be - what's your use case?
[23:04] <mohammed> hi
[23:04] <JinjaNinja> Hello all, for some reason, QJackCTL's status bar icon doesn't show the options when I click on it. I can see a few pixels that pop up near the very edge of it, but no actual options show up. All my other status bar icons work fine and show the options, except for QJackCTL
[23:04] <lickalott>  i can connect and pwd all over the place (commented out chroot) but i can ONLY get an ls to work in my home dir.  there is a subfolder under my home dir and two more subfolders under that, that are 777.  I cannot ls those.  I can also not ftp a file
[23:05] <lickalott> i compared my working .conf (ubuntu server) with my latest one (different server) and with the exception of some version changes everything is the same.  The old server works like a champ.
[23:05] <lickalott> I've turned off the firewall and tested and the same results occur.  I'm at a loss.  (and google isn't being my friend today)
[23:06] <mohamed> hi
[23:06] <lickalott> hello mohamed
[23:06] <acz32> mohamed: hi
[23:06] <digitalvaldosta> Hey everyone. I need some help. I have a system that has LUKS encryption that once I enter the passphrase on boot it sends me to busybox initramfs prompt. I have tried this (https://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox) but to no avail. Any thoughts? I am currently booted to the latest debian live ISO (USB) with internet connection. Haven't been able to load the drive. But using the Drives ap
[23:07] <mohamed> Can I ask
[23:07] <JinjaNinja> Don't ask to ask, mohamed, just ask!
[23:08] <lickalott> daftykins, have you seen anything like that before?
[23:09] <sersang> hi, how can disable irssi's x has joined or x has quit messages?
[23:10] <mohamed> how cancel key login with software
[23:10] <polyphagia> sersang: /ignore -channels #channel * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[23:10] <Bashing-om> sersang: Irssi : /ignore #channel JOINS QUITS .
[23:10] <acz32> mohamed: do you mean how to set up automatic login where you don't type username and password?
[23:12] <mikubuntu> really need some help w/this to get this little hp mini 1000 back to sis b4 she leaves town -- so is b43-fwcutter part of every installation disk? i'm still trying to figure out how to follow the instructions for 'no internet access' on page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[23:12] <mohamed> I do not ask about how programs canceled password
[23:14] <acz32> mohamed: i don't understand the question. seems like a language barrier - sorry
[23:14] <daftykins> lickalott: are you sure FTP is the correct solution for your situation?
[23:15] <sersang> thank you @Bashing-om @polyphagia that worked, it's much readable now
[23:15] <lickalott> daftykins, yes sir.  it's my only option for this particular scenario.  I'm dropping ipcamera "motion detection" pictures into an ftp path.  They are about 4 years old.  I wish i could use scp or the like but I'm stuck with ftp
[23:15] <digitalvaldosta> Anyone know how to get out of the BusyBox InitRamFS prompt and get my system booted?
[23:16] <lickalott> i am not married to vsftpd.....so if there is another option out there that is psuedo secure I'm all ears.
[23:16] <mohammed_> How do I cancel password when software download
[23:16] <mohamed> How do I cancel password when software download
[23:16] <daftykins> lickalott: sshfs could also work for you
[23:16]  * lickalott googles
[23:16] <daftykins> mohamed: you don't make any sense.
[23:17] <acz32> mohamed: if you mean when you try to install software, it's not a good idea to remove password. it will make the system vulnerable and not secure
[23:17] <digitalvaldosta> I think what mohammed_ is asking is how to keep the system from asking for password each time they go to install apps
[23:18] <acz32> digitalvaldosta: yeah, i think you're right. doing that is generally discouraged
[23:18] <lickalott> daftykins, i don't think that will work.  The only option I have to save output from these cameras is an "FTP services Settings" option
[23:18] <digitalvaldosta> Exactly acz32
[23:18] <daftykins> lickalott: not even dump to samba share or local disk?
[23:19] <daftykins> oh they're IP cameras to they're already coming in remotely
[23:19] <lickalott> yes sir
[23:20] <daftykins> lickalott: sounds like your FTP issue is down to ownership perhaps, not permissions
[23:21] <daftykins> why use your home?
[23:21] <lickalott> thats kind of what I'm thinking but am stuck as to what else I could possibly change.  I've edited the .conf multiple times, edited and re-edited the ftpuers and chroot list, user_list, firewall config, iptables.....   The only thing I haven't done yet is disable selinux
[23:22] <lickalott> i don't have webspace anymore.  And this way i can easily look at them if something seems "off"
[23:22] <lickalott> I won't go into details, but they've recently paid for themselves......
[23:23] <histo> lickalott: were you the one having problems when you ls via ftp?
[23:23] <mohamed> OK. But at a time when the operating system asks key login
[23:23] <lickalott> yes sir
[23:24] <lickalott> did you find me a golden nugget of delicousness?
[23:24] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: what's up?
[23:24] <EriC^^> mohamed: go to settings > users > automatic login
[23:26] <mohamed> I'm not talking about this problem
[23:26] <crayon> any way for me to create a script that nukes local user accounts not accessed in the last 90 days?
[23:26] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ I can't get my system to boot. It has LUKS encryption and after entering the passphrase on boot it drops to Busybox initramfs prompt. I have tried this to no avail: https://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[23:26] <digitalvaldosta> I am currently booted to Debian Jessie on USB
[23:27] <digitalvaldosta> (LIVE)
[23:27] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: does it say why it's dropping to initramfs?
[23:27] <daftykins> lickalott: maybe with logs, "ls -al" in the FTP path and so on there'd be more to go on
[23:28] <digitalvaldosta> I forget the exact message... I'll reboot to get it if you want
[23:28] <daftykins> lickalott: so if you could compile maybe a pastebin with extended info... or one of the other volunteers knows it far better
[23:28] <lickalott> i will collect some more data tonight
[23:28] <lickalott> thanks!
[23:28] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: ok
[23:30] <mohamed> i want cancel my key login after open ubuntu with software
[23:31] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ the prompt says ... BusyBox v1.19.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.19.3.7ubuntu1.1) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[23:32] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: does it mention any errors before?
[23:32] <dayvid> hola
[23:32] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ no
[23:33] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: does it happen after you enter the passphrase?
[23:33] <digitalvaldosta> I get errors if I type 'exec startx'
[23:33] <mikubuntu> really need some help w/this to get this little hp mini 1000 back to sis b4 she leaves town -- so is b43-fwcutter part of every installation disk? i'm still trying to figure out how to follow the instructions for 'no internet access' on page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[23:33] <acz32> mohamed: don't do that. it is dangerous
[23:33] <digitalvaldosta> Yeah once I enter the passphrase I get the busybox
[23:33] <daftykins> mikubuntu: doesn't have wired?
[23:33] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: ok, boot the live cd again
[23:34] <mikubuntu> daftykins: no, the wire works when the box is logged on to xp, but doesn't work when logged in live to xub, lub, or ub 1204
[23:35] <mikubuntu> daftykins: i've wondered about something. the hp mini1000 has a physical wireless 'disabling' switch on the front -- i wonder if it could somehow be interfering?
[23:36] <digitalvaldosta> FYI after exec startx I get kernel panic
[23:36] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^
[23:36] <daftykins> mikubuntu: you would find that out by running rfkill
[23:36] <daftykins> was this the one with a broken SSD/HDD ?
[23:37] <mikubuntu> what is rfkill, and how would it determine that?
[23:37] <mikubuntu> daftykins: what is rfkill, and how would it determine that?
[23:38] <daftykins> mikubuntu: run "rfkill listall"
[23:39] <digitalvaldosta> Ok EriC^^ now on LIVE system
[23:39] <daftykins> oh it's with a space
[23:39] <daftykins> "rfkill list all"
[23:39] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: ok, type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:40] <mikubuntu> daftykins: ok, gnna have to fire it up again w xubuntu, but i think i need to go back to trying to get lubuntu to work as it seems to be the best performing between ub, lub, and xub on the little box
[23:40] <daftykins> mikubuntu: yeah it's the lightest weight and that is a netbook which... i would throw away.
[23:40] <daftykins> and i'd enjoy it too.
[23:41] <daftykins> disclaimer: i may be a bit bias
[23:42] <mikubuntu> daftykins: my sis doesn't have any money, and for the price (it was given to her) it's really all she needs to send a few emails and log onto facebook
[23:43] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ http://termbin.com/v8y9
[23:43] <mikubuntu> daftykins: i must have 15-20 hours into it already !! lol.
[23:43] <daftykins> mikubuntu: ;) if you're not in the same situation something for $60-100 off ebay would be worlds apart i bet ;)
[23:43] <daftykins> anywho, you are where you are
[23:43] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: type sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 bla
[23:45] <mikubuntu> daftykins: still waiting for xub to load -- so the syntax is " rfkill list all " yes?
[23:45] <genii> Just list
[23:46] <daftykins> mikubuntu: testing it in another OS is pretty useless to my mind
[23:46] <daftykins> anywho if genii is free he knows wifi far better than i, and i must prepare some food!
[23:46] <daftykins> :D
[23:46] <Johnny_Linux> oh no
[23:46] <digitalvaldosta> Ok EriC^^ it asked for passphrase and that was it.
[23:46] <Johnny_Linux> not foood ??
[23:47] <genii> daftykins: Unfortunately I'm leaving soon,  it's Beer O'Clock
[23:47] <Johnny_Linux> hi genii
[23:47] <Johnny_Linux> you may not remember me, we go way back to 6.10
[23:47] <daftykins> ah then support shall have to wait :>
[23:47] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: ok, type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:47] <Johnny_Linux> your a good helped my while i was learning
[23:48] <genii> Johnny_Linux: I'm glad I was able to assist :) And I see you're still using Linux
[23:49] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ http://termbin.com/pdif
[23:49] <mohammed__> please answer me
[23:49] <Johnny_Linux> ya, i went to the school of hard knocks, but then i was on kubuntu and you were there, thanks, ill shutup now
[23:49] <mikubuntu> daftykins: interesting -- says -- hp wifi wireless lan not soft blocked and not hard blocked; sam for phy0 wireless lan .... but it doesn't say anything about the wired connection. oh wait. i guess you want me to run that with the wire hooked up. let me take it to the other room and see.
[23:49]  * genii slides Johnny_Linux a fresh mug of coffee
[23:50] <daftykins> mikubuntu: no this is only relevant to the *target* OS install and the wifi really.
[23:50] <daftykins> anywho bbl
[23:50] <Johnny_Linux> happy din din
[23:51] <daftykins> !ot
[23:52] <mikubuntu> daftykins: but isn't it significant that the target box doesn't even recognize the WIRED connection (when running lub or xub -- but works when logged into xp)
[23:52] <mikubuntu> daftykins: don't want to hold you up from dinner -- i just ate, so i can appreciate.
[23:53] <daftykins> mikubuntu: yes but you need to identify the device hardware via lspci then check for an interface name with 'ifconfig -a' or 'ip a'
[23:53] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:53] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: nevermind
[23:53] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: type sudo mount /dev/mapper/bla /mnt
[23:53] <digitalvaldosta> ok
[23:53] <EriC^^> and sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[23:53] <gagalicious> i have plenty of duplicate files in my desktop... how do u guys usually maintain a very organized desktop... over years...?
[23:54] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ ** mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[23:55] <isifreek> gagalicious: i reimage often. everything not in git or redundant storage is treated like a cache
[23:56] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: type lsmod | grep dm-mod
[23:56] <isifreek> gagalicious: been considering making my desktop a private git repo. then i would have the same desktop on any comp, and i would be more wary of what goes on the desktop
[23:59] <ozzloy> is there a terminal where you can click with the mouse to move the cursor back on the line?