[00:00] <ozzloy> i keep showing people how to use the terminal, and they are used to using the mouse to fix if they've typed something wrong
[00:00] <EriC^^> ozzloy: ctrl+a takes them to the start of a line
[00:00] <ozzloy> and i keep having to explain that you can't do that in terminal, but it really doesn't need to be that way
[00:01] <ozzloy> EriC^^, yeah, and C-e goes to the end of the line, and other shortcuts too.  i appreciate the input, and would like to know more about those too, but not right now
[00:01] <digitalvaldosta> Ok EriC^^
[00:02] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: did anything show up?
[00:02] <digitalvaldosta> no EriC^^
[00:02] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: ok, try sudo modprobe dm-mod
[00:03] <digitalvaldosta> nothing EriC^^
[00:04] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: ok, try sudo lvscan
[00:04] <astroboy> good morning :)
[00:04] <digitalvaldosta> command not found EriC^^
[00:05] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: type sudo apt-get install lvm2
[00:07] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ run the command again now?
[00:07] <ozzloy> heh, i found a suggestion: use emacs and inside that M-x shell
[00:07] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: type sudo vgchange -ay
[00:08] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ 2 logical volume(s) in volume group "mint" now active
[00:08] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:09] <digitalvaldosta> http://termbin.com/ik2b
[00:09] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^
[00:10] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: ok, type sudo mount /dev/mapper/mint-root /mnt
[00:11] <EriC^^> then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[00:12] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/mint-root, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[00:12] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ In some cases useful info is found in syslog -try dmesg | tail or so.
[00:13] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: type dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:14] <digitalvaldosta> http://termbin.com/c55h
[00:15] <blz> Hello.  I just created a raid5 array (/dev/md0) at the command line on a headless server.  What's the recommended way to mount it at startup?
[00:16] <mikubuntu> any wifi guru available to help me with getting bcm4312 broadcom card to work in an hp mini 1000?
[00:16] <daftykins> blz: add it to /etc/fstab
[00:16] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ http://termbin.com/c55h
[00:17] <blz> daftykins:  just add /dev/md0 as if it were, say /dev/sda1 ?
[00:17] <daftykins> blz: i don't see why not
[00:18] <blz> daftykins, me neither, but I've never worked with raid before so I'm just double checking :)
[00:18] <daftykins> well you're not booting from it so it seems a-ok to me
[00:18] <daftykins> and 10 points for that btw!
[00:18] <blz> indeed.  I'll give it a whirl :)
[00:18] <blz> 10 points for?
[00:19] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: try fsck /dev/mapper/mint-root don't repair anything yet though
[00:19] <daftykins> not booting from the RAID volume
[00:19] <daftykins> makes life 100x easier
[00:19] <blz> daftykins, haha well I sort of lied earlier.  I used raid *once* before... and booted from it...
[00:19] <blz> ... and here I am redoing everything
[00:19] <blz> Shrapnel removed; lesson learned.
[00:19] <daftykins> \o/
[00:21] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ Error reading block 8971633 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read). Ignore error<y>?
[00:21] <EriC^^> y
[00:22] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ Error reading block 2097156...
[00:22] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: ok
[00:23] <digitalvaldosta> Force ?
[00:23] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: cancel it and type sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:24] <EriC^^> daftykins: please check it out ^
[00:25] <blz> daftykins, working like a charm.  Thanks for the sanity-check!
[00:25] <astroboy> i have a problem, my pc's brigtness always reset to the max value after reboot, any solution?
[00:26] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ http://termbin.com/ldpc
[00:26] <EriC^^> daftykins: ^ :)
[00:27] <STxAxTIC> sunglasses
[00:28] <JinjaNinja> For some reason, whenever I enable JACK audio, my sound goes out. Jack audio works fine, but my sound doesn't work after turning it on
[00:28] <gagalicious> how do i install software raid on ubuntu 14.04?
[00:28] <gagalicious> how do i install software raid on ubuntu 14.04 server?
[00:29] <bazhang> !raid | gagalicious have a read
[00:29] <daftykins> EriC^^: nasty! had a feeling that was coming XD
[00:29] <bazhang> read that first gagalicious
[00:29] <EriC^^> daftykins: it's dead?
[00:31] <daftykins> EriC^^: yep, 383 curent pending sectors that haven't been remapped, controller's unhappy due to the raw read error rate
[00:31] <JinjaNinja>  Anyone know what's up with my sound after I enable JACK audio? Wtf. Maybe it's something to do with the fact that my sound is ran by Pulse audio?
[00:31] <daftykins> those likely won't remap until the disk is zeroed
[00:31] <astroboy> the site for check kernel updates, kernel.org or kernel.com ??
[00:31] <gagalicious> ok thanks. basically server doesnt come with a configuration to configure raid... i think that's really dumb... server needs raid. so it's fine.
[00:32] <mikubuntu> any wifi guru available to help me with getting bcm4312 broadcom card to work in an hp mini 1000?
[00:32] <daftykins> astroboy: you don't just throw newer kernels on when you like :)
[00:32] <digitalvaldosta> http://termbin.com/ldpc EriC^^
[00:32] <EriC^^> daftykins: could a fsck probably help just to recover data? or it would mess it up more.. what can be done here?
[00:33] <histo> astroboy: what are you trying to do?
[00:33] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: it appears that your hard disk is pretty toast
[00:33] <daftykins> EriC^^: is the fs failing to mount?
[00:33] <EriC^^> daftykins: yes, it says bad superblock
[00:33] <daftykins> any luck using a backup?
[00:34] <astroboy> only want to know the site
[00:34] <histo> astroboy: for?
[00:34] <EriC^^> daftykins: i think he followed a guide and it didn't work
[00:34] <daftykins> astroboy: .org , ask #linux for further info
[00:34] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: right?
[00:34] <astroboy> for checking the change log
[00:34] <histo> astroboy: kernel.org is the site for the linux kernel organization
[00:34] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ I used: https://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[00:35] <digitalvaldosta> damn >:o
[00:35] <EriC^^> daftykins: would that be the method to use the backup? ^
[00:35]  * daftykins glances
[00:36] <daftykins> yep that's the method i've seen before
[00:36] <daftykins> digitalvaldosta: is your data super duper important?
[00:37] <digitalvaldosta> pictures that can't be pulled from anywhere else and a paper my wife wrote. So... yes.
[00:37] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^
[00:37] <daftykins> ouch
[00:37] <digitalvaldosta> daftykins
[00:37] <__Myst__> i3 + multiple terminals or tmux?
[00:37] <daftykins> digitalvaldosta: ok i think if it really holds this importance, it's professional data recovery company time
[00:38]  * EriC^^ is thinking if he could image the disk and give it a fsck, would that work?
[00:38] <astroboy> (Y)
[00:38] <astroboy>  my pc's brigtness always reset to the max value after reboot, any solution?
[00:39] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ I do have another drive that I could make an IMG file to that is more reliable
[00:39] <daftykins> EriC^^: depends if you have the time to help through a ddrescue or similar, the trouble is the actions of reading this disk will likely push it over the edge and finish it off
[00:39] <daftykins> so it depends if digitalvaldosta is willing to take that risk
[00:40] <EriC^^> daftykins: oh ok
[00:40] <daftykins> you could just keep trying the superblocks in order until one works, if you're super brave? :)
[00:41] <digitalvaldosta> daftykins EriC^^ I'm willing if the odds are decent so I can pull the files then trash the HDD
[00:42] <gp5st> hello. My ISP hijacks DNS. when I do host <nonexistant domain> 2 records get returned, the second is an NXDOMAIN. if I dig or anything else I just get the one record.  How does the host command figure out the NXDOMAIN part
[00:42] <daftykins> digitalvaldosta: it's really not great, if you only tried one backup superblock with the above guide, maybe try some more than go the pro data recovery approach
[00:44] <EsoRotica> I have a 14.04.02 fresh install, md5sum checked, but once booted into the machine I have no keyboard/mouse/ethernet support, All of which work on the liveCD. I've attempted several kenerl options to see if those would solve the problem,  checked BIOS, etc... Anything else I can try?
[00:45] <daftykins> EsoRotica: laptop/desktop?
[00:45] <digitalvaldosta> daftykins I couldn't get a read on the superblocks for the locked partition (sda5) only on sda1. (There is also a partition sda2 extended)
[00:45] <EsoRotica> Desktop Thinkcentre m91p
[00:45] <EsoRotica> daftykins:
[00:46] <daftykins> digitalvaldosta: yeah extended is just a placeholder for logical drives (sda5) so no worries there, but sounds like you've got a one partition setup as sda5 might be swap and sda1 / ?
[00:46] <daftykins> EsoRotica: USB kb+mouse i take it?
[00:46] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Both are USB, Yes
[00:46] <daftykins> EsoRotica: did you install with updates?
[00:46] <daftykins> i.e. is the live kernel the same as the installs kernel?
[00:46] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Yes
[00:47] <daftykins> i asked two things so can't tell which that yes is to
[00:47] <digitalvaldosta> daftykins sda5 is the locked partition which contains the install of linux. Yeah I encrypted everything.
[00:47] <ubuntu> net
[00:47] <ubuntu> help
[00:47] <ubuntu> vv
[00:47] <ubuntu> v
[00:47] <ubuntu> v
[00:47] <ubuntu> v
[00:47] <ubuntu> v
[00:47] <daftykins> oh encryption :<
[00:47] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Sorry, I installed with updates, Likely meaning that the kernel is not the same as the install media
[00:47]  * daftykins shakes his head at the spammer
[00:47] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: did you try sudo dumpe2fs /dev/mapper/mint-root ?
[00:48] <daftykins> EsoRotica: ok, does the keyboard work after POST to be able to hold left shift and get GRUB?
[00:48] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Yes,  that is how I was able to test different kernel params
[00:49] <daftykins> EsoRotica: cool, so was the kernel from the live session not installed?
[00:49]  * astroboy ---
[00:49] <EsoRotica> daftykins: I'm unsure as to wether the latest kernel is the same as the 14.04.02 release
[00:50] <daftykins> boot live -> uname -r, check GRUB -> read kernel vers
[00:50] <gagalicious> instead of import export save and load the docker containers.. is it possible that i copy AUFS /mnt/docker to another /mnt/aufs and then i restore with /mnt/aufs -> /mnt/docker... will it still work that way? else what COW file system will work this way?
[00:50] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ I will check. daftykins this is the tutorial that I used to install the encryption: hak5.org/episodes/hak5-1406
[00:51] <daftykins> gagalicious: was #docker no use?
[00:51] <daftykins> digitalvaldosta: heh i used to watch episodes from them. it's no use to me as i have zero experience with encryption i'm afraid.
[00:52] <EsoRotica> daftykins: I lost connection there for a second after saying I'm unsure of the versions and missed any messages since. I'm working on checking now
[00:54] <EsoRotica> daftykins: The computer with problems is running the 13.16.0-30 Kernel
[00:54] <EsoRotica> 3.16.0-30*
[00:54] <daftykins> ok
[00:54] <daftykins> live session is probably earlier
[00:55] <EsoRotica> I'll boot now and figure it out
[00:55] <daftykins> in fact i have a 64-bit 14.04.2 desktop ISO right here
[00:55] <daftykins> tum te tum
[00:55] <daftykins> ok don't know how you find out
[00:56] <EsoRotica> uname 0a
[00:56] <EsoRotica> uname -a daftykins
[00:56] <daftykins> no it's -r
[00:56] <daftykins> and i'm talking from opening an ISO, not booting it :)
[00:56] <EsoRotica> hah, good luck.. I've booted one, just a moment
[00:57] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Its running the same as what my grub is trying to boot. 3.16.0-30
[00:57] <daftykins> how interesting
[00:57] <daftykins> this is gonna sound nuts, but have you tried pulling the mains cable, then booting up from truly cold?
[00:57] <EsoRotica> No, but why not.
[00:57] <astroboy> how to check kernel version on my pc?
[00:57] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ doesn't look like we have this time (since reboot). But previously I couldn't get much info. Just ran it and got a ton of info. daftykins
[00:58] <EsoRotica> astroboy:  uname -r
[00:58] <daftykins> astroboy: we literally just said this :>
[00:58] <daftykins> digitalvaldosta: huh what did you run?
[00:59] <EsoRotica> daftykins: No luck there
[00:59] <digitalvaldosta> daftykins, EriC^^ asked if I had ran 'sudo dumpe2fs /dev/mapper/mint-root
[01:00] <digitalvaldosta> daftykins I hadn't on this boot but have quite a bit of info now that i have ran it.
[01:00] <daftykins> ah ok
[01:00] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Maybe this is a problem best solved with chroot and updates?
[01:00] <daftykins> EsoRotica: you could boot the live session then, chroot the install... lol yes
[01:00] <daftykins> that's what i'd try.
[01:01] <EsoRotica> Okay, to be sure we're on the same page, make a dir with proc, sys, and dev. the mount --bind the respective directories?
[01:01] <daftykins> !chroot
[01:01] <EsoRotica> Thanks boss.
[01:01] <daftykins> fully detailed there
[01:01] <daftykins> np
[01:02] <hr49__> Hey all. I'm having some difficulty getting lightdm to work with xfce4 from Minimal CD. (manual package installation) When I try to logon from lightdm, it reports that it cannot start the session, but I can still start xfce with startx.
[01:02] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Hmm, last time I did this, it was far less steps :)
[01:03] <daftykins> yeah all that extra mount stuff seems to have grown
[01:03] <daftykins> no idea why
[01:04] <daftykins> hr49__: have you at any point run 'sudo startx' out of desperation perhaps?
[01:04] <Jordan_U> digitalvaldosta: I'll second the statement that for very important data you should probably leave recovery to the professionals with special *hardware* based tools for recovery, but that said GNU ddrescue is probably about the best you can get for software based recovery of data from failing drives. I would recommend making an image of the entire drive with GNU ddrescue (not to be confused with the inferior but similarly ...
[01:05] <Jordan_U> ... named dd_rescue).
[01:05] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ the last time I ran that command (before I got on this chat) this is how I ran it>> sudo dumpe2fs -f /dev/sdb1 | grep -i superblock
[01:05] <hr49__> daftykins: No, I've always invoked it without sudo.
[01:06] <digitalvaldosta> EriC^^ should I run it this way again but for /dev/mapper/mint-root ?
[01:06] <gagalicious> daftykins : #docker is quiet
[01:06] <gagalicious> instead of import export save and load the docker containers.. is it possible that i copy AUFS /mnt/docker to another /mnt/aufs and then i restore with /mnt/aufs -> /mnt/docker... will it still work that way? else what COW file system will work this way?. i mean rsyncing instead of dd
[01:07] <daftykins> gagalicious: /q alis LIST docker
[01:07] <daftykins> tonnes of channels.
[01:07] <hr49__> now startx fails as well when I install nvidia drivers, but one problem at a time for now (especially since nvidia drivers require lightdm)
[01:07] <gagalicious> daftykins : i dont have the /q command
[01:07] <gagalicious> using xchat
[01:08] <daftykins>  /msg also works
[01:08] <daftykins> or just message that bot
[01:08] <EriC^^> digitalvaldosta: i've no experience with that, ask daftykins or Jordan_U
[01:09] <gagalicious> daftykins : thanks! that's great thing i didnt know
[01:09] <daftykins> Jordan_U: if you're active i think you may be better for today's data recovery ticket ^
[01:10] <Jordan_U> gagalicious: Since the S.M.A.R.T data said that your drive is failing (according to others in the channel, I didn't look at it myself) you should *not* be using fsck. With a failing drive you want to stop writing to the drive in any way, and simply make an image of it somewhere else. Then, if needed, you can do an fsck against the image.
[01:11] <digitalvaldosta> Thanks EriC^^. I just ran it anyways and am able to get the superblock numbers. I will take the risk and attempt to recover them. Thanks also daftykins.
[01:11] <Jordan_U> digitalvaldosta: *NO*
[01:11] <daftykins> i think i mentioned the risk but it was deemed worthy of trying *shrug*
[01:11] <daftykins> in my opinion even imaging up is going to risk the disk
[01:11] <gagalicious> Jordan_U : my hdd is not failing
[01:11] <digitalvaldosta> Jordan_U you have a better idea?
[01:11] <daftykins> gagalicious: he mixed up users is all
[01:12] <Jordan_U> gagalicious: OK, that changes things entirely. My entire objection was based on that.
[01:12] <daftykins> Jordan_U: you are correct, but it's for digitalvaldosta
[01:13] <Jordan_U> digitalvaldosta: Since the S.M.A.R.T data said that your drive is failing (according to others in the channel, I didn't look at it myself) you should *not* be using fsck. With a failing drive you want to stop writing to the drive in any way, and simply make an image of it somewhere else. Then, if needed, you can do an fsck against the image.
[01:13] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Thanks :)
[01:13] <daftykins> np :>
[01:13] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Thanks for the help. Just a quick question on these notes for basic chroot, it says lucid and i386, should these not reference Trusty and amd64 for me?
[01:14] <digitalvaldosta> Jordan_U should I dd or ddrescue to a .img file on an external HDD? I have a 500GB that is newer and reliable.
[01:14] <daftykins> EsoRotica: err the architecture and dist name doesn't bear any relevance to a bunch of mount commands
[01:14] <blz> Does anybody here have experience with setting up a deluge thinclient?  I've followed the instructions on their website and I can log into the web UI, but not via the connection manager of a local GTK client.
[01:15] <Jordan_U> digitalvaldosta: Yes. And you should use GNU ddrescue rather than plain dd. Also make sure that you create a log with ddrescue.
[01:15] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Right on. Just unfamiliar with debootstrap. almost there
[01:15] <daftykins> when does it say something about debootstrap? o0
[01:15] <digitalvaldosta> Not sure how to do that Jordan_U
[01:18] <Jordan_U> digitalvaldosta: The GNU ddrescue manual is very good, if you have the time I highly recommend reading sections 1,2,3,4,5 and 7. http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html
[01:18] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Under the creating a chroot section ><
[01:19] <digitalvaldosta> Ok thanks Jordan_U
[01:19] <EsoRotica> daftykins: I think I would have been better off trying what I knew first :P almost there
[01:19] <Guest99299> thanks
[01:19] <daftykins> EsoRotica: oh you don't want to do any of that crap, just start from "setting up the chroot"
[01:20] <XLV> anyone else facing the problem of "acpi pcc probe fail starting option 219" problem with 15.04 and nvidia gpus?
[01:20] <daftykins> hmm someone seems to have edited that post to make it less useful
[01:20] <daftykins> =|
[01:21] <hr49__> XLV: yes; from my understanding, it's harmless
[01:21] <Jordan_U> digitalvaldosta: You're welcome. For your purposes, if the LUKS partition takes up most of the drive, I would make an image of the entire drive rather than a single partition. Among other things, that makes it easy to start the image up in a VM later, or restore it to another drive which you can then boot from and use.
[01:21] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Looks like it wants the bin dir too?
[01:21] <XLV> hr49__, unless in my case, it really stopped the booting process... fixed it with installing a v4.0 kernel
[01:23] <XLV> hr49__, so for future reference, this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/613969/acpi-ppc-probe-failed-starting-version-219-nvidia/614737#614737 works
[01:23] <EsoRotica> daftykins: I've created a dir which has mount -o bind cat proc sys bin  to my chroot dir, Then when I sudo chroot that dir it says failed to run /bin/bash
[01:24] <daftykins> EsoRotica: what partitions does your install have? mount / to /mnt - then *after* you do proc and sys inside it
[01:24] <hr49__> XLV: oh, you don't have nomodeset in your grub. I guess a kernel upgrade is another solution.
[01:24] <daftykins> order being super important
[01:25] <hr49__> or do you boot to nomodeset?
[01:25] <EsoRotica> daftykins:  Ah.
[01:26] <__Myst__> Question
[01:26] <XLV> hr49__, no, havent tried nomodeset, will try it now with the older v3.19 kernel
[01:27] <daftykins> __Myst__: can't see it!
[01:27] <hr49__> XLV: yeah, that makes sense; this is a kernel issue
[01:27] <gagalicious> is it possible for multiple client computers to share one nfs host?
[01:27] <hr49__> so I guess it works at some point b/n 3.19 and 4.0
[01:27] <Jordan_U> digitalvaldosta: Once you have an image saved you can try some recovery on a completely read only copy of it by running "sudo losetup -r /dev/loop0 /path/to/disk.image" then "sudo kpartx -a /dev/loop0". The first command will make a read only loopback device pointing to the image, and the second will make it possible to access partitions on the image via /dev/mapper/loop0pX.
[01:28] <hr49__> I remember looking into this when trying to run nouveau, since it beds KMS
[01:28] <hr49__> thus nomodeset disabled nouveau
[01:29] <EsoRotica> daftykins: LOL! I chrooted the thumbstick. I'm a genious today
[01:29] <hr49__> so yeah, it works on some newer dusts,with Brewer kernel
[01:29] <__Myst__> in cron, 0 * * * * is equal to every hour
[01:29] <__Myst__> right<'
[01:29] <__Myst__> ?
[01:29] <hr49__> s/Brewer/newer
[01:31] <hr49__> anyways, are there any packages required to get lightdm to work with xfce besides those two packages and their dependencies?
[01:31] <daftykins> EsoRotica: 8D
[01:32] <XLV> hr49__, hmm, it doesnt work.. tries to load xserver but dumps me again into the gdm
[01:33] <XLV> very borky update, this one to 15.04.. perhaps a clean install would fare better?
[01:33] <digitalvaldosta> Ok I'll look into both of those. I saved what you wrote to a txt file just in case I have to continue this later. Jordan_U
[01:33] <pavlos> __Myst__, yes ... the columns are: min hour dayofmonth month dayofweek command
[01:33] <hr49__> also, what is the Xubuntu minimal installation on the live CD? (versus Xubuntu-desktop)
[01:34] <hr49__> XLV: no idea; nomodeset has always worked for me
[01:34] <XLV> hr49__, nouveau runs fine.. its the nvidia binary ones that fail in my case
[01:34] <XLV> i7 4770K, z87, gtx 760
[01:34] <XLV> anyhow, keeping v4.0.0 kernel for now
[01:35] <hr49__> heh I can't get nouveau to run myself
[01:35] <hr49__> although I have no reason to want it
[01:36] <hr49__> XLV: your hardware is newer than mine (i5 3750, 550 Ti, Z68) so who knows
[01:37] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Thank you again, chroot now up and running. I have it running apt update now: Upgrade, dist-upgrade is next?
[01:37] <hr49__> or is it 3570 ... not sure
[01:37] <XLV> hr49__, funny thing is, i have a laptop with i7 4770mq, h81m, nvidia gtx 765m and optimus, there the upgrade went flawlessly
[01:37] <shome2> You guys recommend any channels to join for ZFS discussion ?
[01:37] <daftykins> EsoRotica: you run dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
[01:38] <daftykins> so sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:38] <XLV> also on another laptop with i7 2720, h61m, gtx 560m
[01:38] <EsoRotica> Well, its root, so no sudo, but sure.
[01:38] <XLV> hr49__, completely unpredictable
[01:38] <shome2> hah, nvm
[01:38] <hr49__> anyways, good luck, ik how much "fun" nvidia hardware can be on linux
[01:38] <daftykins> EsoRotica: oh dear. i hope you use a correct method to switch
[01:38] <pavlos> shome2, #zfs
[01:38] <EsoRotica> daftykins: when I su the user it complains at me.
[01:38] <XLV> yeah... though its the first time i had such an installation problem in years.. quite a heavy glitch
[01:39] <XLV> i wonder how it got away through all the ubuntu beta
[01:39] <daftykins> EsoRotica: wat? tell me specifically what you type...
[01:39] <EsoRotica> daftykins: one moment. let me cancel current command
[01:40] <EsoRotica> su user \ sudo apt-get update  -> Sufe Eddective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo
[01:40] <EsoRotica> on a file system  with the nosuid option set?
[01:40] <hr49__> is there any special configuration needed for lightdm with xfce when installed from packages?
[01:40] <daftykins> yeah you don't 'su user' because root should not have a password
[01:41] <EsoRotica> sorry, sufe eddective == sudo : effective user id not 0
[01:41] <daftykins> unless you're breaking ubuntu's core principles :)
[01:41] <EsoRotica> daftykins: doesnt chroot in its very concept break that? Do i need to mount /usr to the chroot as well?
[01:42] <EsoRotica> Keep im mind this is because I've switched to the user of the system
[01:42] <daftykins> 'chroot' refers to the root file system, not users
[01:42] <hr49__> if I'm having issues with lightdm, should I try gdm? or is that deprecated?
[01:42] <EsoRotica> daftykins: It pops me into the command line as root@ubuntu... so...
[01:43] <EsoRotica> I think that was my confusion, Thanks.
[01:43] <daftykins> yeah so you chroot as root, but you don't do any user switching shenanigans
[01:43] <happyfr0gg> If I remove/purge lightdm, will gdm automatically take over?
[01:43] <daftykins> my bad i forgot the context of the task so of course you'd be root
[01:43] <Jordan_U> hr49__: GDM is not deprecated (it's still the official login manager for the GNOME project, even if Ubuntu doesn't use it by default).
[01:43] <EsoRotica> No big, I'll ping you when the dist-upgrade is complete.
[01:44] <hr49__> happyfr0gg, is it installed?
[01:44] <hr49__> otherwise no
[01:44] <happyfr0gg> I know I have lightdm-gtk-greeter but I want to remove both. How do I check if GDM is installed?
[01:45] <hr49__> Jordan_U, thanks; I'm going to see if gdm world
[01:45] <hr49__> happyfr0gg, dpkg -s GSM
[01:45] <hr49__> no typo
[01:46] <hr49__> gdm
[01:46] <Jordan_U> hr49__: You're welcome.
[01:46] <hr49__> sorry for typing currently on phone
[01:47] <HoloIRCUser2> Any book for advance ubuntu users
[01:47] <hr49__> happyfr0gg, so run dpkg -s gdm and see what it says
[01:47] <happyfr0gg> hr49__,  GDM is not installed.
[01:48] <happyfr0gg> hr49__, if I install GDM, will it take precedence over DMs?
[01:48] <hr49__> GDM or gdm? I'm not sure if packages are case sensitive
[01:48] <hr49__> happyfr0gg, not sure about precedence
[01:49] <hr49__> nor how to set it up
[01:49] <happyfr0gg> I mean will GDM automatically take over (no longer running lightdm or lightdm-gtk-greeter).
[01:49] <hr49__> if lightdm is gone, I think it should
[01:50] <happyfr0gg> okay.
[01:50] <Guest99299> so if a pc has lightdm display/desktop manager and it is replaced with another manager, and then lightdm is deleted, does that manager automatically take over the login screen?
[01:50] <ablest1980> hello need some help
[01:50] <happyfr0gg> Thanks guys.
[01:50] <happyfr0gg> I am out.
[01:51] <hr49__> after a reboot I think (but just be ready to use ttys in case)
[01:51] <daftykins> ablest1980: waiting for a question...
[01:51] <ablest1980> im trying to use fglrx proprietary driver for amd/ati video
[01:52] <daftykins> AMD cards yes
[01:52] <daftykins> and...?
[01:52] <ablest1980> it says applying changes long time
[01:52] <ablest1980> orange loading bar moves only so  much
[01:52] <daftykins> 'it' ? can you share a screenshot of what you're doing?
[01:52] <ablest1980> how?
[01:52] <shome2> How are you guys tonight ?
[01:52] <daftykins> imgur.com
[01:53] <hr49__> ablest1980, perhaps run command from terminal to see output?
[01:53] <ObrienDave> lmgtfy.com ;P
[01:53] <ablest1980> how do i take a screenshot
[01:53] <daftykins> press the print-screen key
[01:53] <daftykins> or better yet, alt+print-screen with the target program as the active window
[01:53] <Guest99299> install a screenshot program
[01:53] <ablest1980> its in software and updates
[01:54] <Guest99299> then you can take screenshots
[01:54] <hr49__> (if you know what package you're installing, which should be listed in that window next to the radio button you select)
[01:54] <Guest99299> you might have one already instaleld
[01:54] <ablest1980> additional drivers
[01:54] <daftykins> it's built in, Guest99299
[01:54] <Guest99299> alright
[01:54] <hr49__> no, you don't need screenshot program
[01:54] <ablest1980> ok
[01:54] <daftykins> there's an echo in here
[01:54] <hr49__> just hit print screen
[01:54] <ablest1980> ok
[01:54] <ablest1980> ok
[01:54] <OerHeks> sometimes when this driver thing takes too long, and you cancel it, the driver is there :-D
[01:54] <hr49__> window should pop up
[01:55] <hr49__> ah yes, drivers are a bucket of joy
[01:55] <ablest1980> it just moved
[01:55]  * OerHeks waves ObrienDave 
[01:55] <ablest1980> i think its working but ill post a screenshot anyway
[01:58]  * ObrienDave waves OerHeks 
[01:59] <ablest1980> on windows my system has option in ati setting to select from 800mhz to 1900mhz cpu speed
[01:59] <daftykins> this should be auto
[02:00] <Pleb_> Can I have help on my Minecraft server running Ubuntu?
[02:00] <HoloIRCUser2> There are so many features missing in linux
[02:00] <ablest1980> can paste printscreen in imgur its disabled
[02:00] <daftykins> and an AMD control panel doesn't choose your CPU speed
[02:00] <daftykins> o0
[02:00] <ablest1980> cant*
[02:00] <daftykins> no you save the file first
[02:00] <daftykins> you don't paste into websites
[02:01] <dhrosa> you can on some sites
[02:01] <ablest1980> when i had windows on this system it did its a amd/ati drivers
[02:01] <daftykins> i doubt from print-screen pressing
[02:01] <daftykins> ablest1980: so you're installing AMD graphics drivers with the hope to control CPU speed...
[02:02] <xangua> HoloIRCUser2: like support for millions of hardware¿
[02:02] <dhrosa> i'm on a high DPI screen and have the opposite problem most peopel seeem to have? my chrome addres bars are GINORMOUS, like 1/5 of the screen height, and my emacs has a ginormous font
[02:02] <dhrosa> thi happens at full resolution (3200x1800) and also at just (1920x1080)
[02:02] <ablest1980> yes because in windows the amd/ati drivers had that option
[02:02] <HoloIRCUser2> Yes xangua ... And driver installation headach
[02:02] <dhrosa> it's not consistent between programs either
[02:02] <daftykins> ablest1980: no this is silly, why do you want this CPU control? it should already be happening...
[02:03] <ablest1980> it was a cpu slider thing from 800 to 1900mhz
[02:03] <daftykins> CPUs are load adaptive
[02:03] <hr49__> okay, so it seems gdm requires nouveau, which I don't want, so installing nvidia drivers, which require lightdm, but then I will replace
[02:03] <ablest1980> i want to play cs
[02:03] <ablest1980> its set at 800mhz
[02:03] <xangua> ablest1980: to manually control your cpu freq, install cpufreq-indicator
[02:03] <dhrosa> anyone know how to fix the DPI issues, or at least which folders I want to nuke to delete all display/gnome/unity settings and start over?
[02:03] <ablest1980> ok
[02:03] <daftykins> ablest1980: open a terminal and run this: watch -n 0.1 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz'
[02:04] <ablest1980> i had that
[02:04] <daftykins> ablest1980: you should see the clocks change based on load (i.e. activity)
[02:04] <ablest1980> whats that do?
[02:04] <daftykins> prints the clock speeds of your CPU every 0.1 seconds
[02:05] <ablest1980> ok
[02:05] <ablest1980> says nothing
[02:06] <daftykins> you either typo'd, or you're not reading it correctly
[02:06] <EsoRotica> daftykins: looks like its grabbing the new kernels :D
[02:06] <EsoRotica> for some reason sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade says no package found :P
[02:06] <EsoRotica> daftykins: For the record, this is the chroot problem
[02:06] <ablest1980> no such file it says
[02:07] <daftykins> EsoRotica: no that's a non-existant command
[02:07] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Yeah, I know. I just thought it was funny..
[02:07] <daftykins> ablest1980: paste from watch to and including '
[02:07] <ablest1980> driver is installing it just taking slow
[02:07] <ablest1980> paste where in paint program?
[02:07] <EsoRotica> ablest1980: His point is that the CPU uses on demand scaling...
[02:07] <daftykins> no in the terminal
[02:08] <ablest1980> yes EsoRotica
[02:08] <nathanesau1> I just attached another hard drive into my computer which has a bootable system on it. How can I rerun grub to recognize /dev/sdb in addition to my ubuntu install on /dev/sda
[02:09] <daftykins> sudo update-grub ?
[02:09] <OerHeks> nathanesau1, sudo update-grub
[02:09] <ablest1980> cpu freq thing works i thought my the propretary drivers have that feature in windows
[02:09] <EsoRotica> watch -n 0.1 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz'
[02:10] <hr49__> does lightdm require x to be running?
[02:10] <hr49__> as in, before login
[02:11] <ablest1980> goes 800 to 1200
[02:11] <ablest1980> drivers are installing just taking slow
[02:11] <xangua> !info indicator-cpufreq | ablest1980
[02:11] <ablest1980> i cant paste screen shot
[02:11] <hr49__> I would think it does, but earlier when I had it and nvidia and xfce installed, startx would fail
[02:12] <ablest1980> i think i can do printscreen paste in a paint program and upload it to imgur
[02:12] <hr49__> so, I could neither start xfce through lighten or terminal
[02:12] <EsoRotica> ablest1980: There is a save file button.
[02:12] <ablest1980> ok
[02:12] <hr49__> now, when the nvidia drivers weren't installed, I could use startx
[02:13] <daftykins> ablest1980: your idea of forcing the CPU to a specific speed to benefit a game is 100% wrong
[02:13] <hr49__> but lightdm still wouldn't work
[02:13] <Guest99299> if apt-get dist-upgrade is used should it update the kernel to the lastest version?
[02:13] <ablest1980> watch -n 0.1 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i mhz' how i set this to 1900mhz?
[02:14] <ablest1980> is 1900mhx at 2 same as 3800mhz on single core?
[02:14] <hr49__> so, I imagine gdm might solve not being able to log in from dm, but not sure how it would solve startx issue
[02:14] <xangua> Guest99299: latest supported by Ubuntu, yes
[02:14] <OerHeks> ablest1980, if it jumps up and down, you don't need to do any thing
[02:14] <Guest99299> down as in a downgrade?
[02:15] <ablest1980> only goes to 1200
[02:15] <ablest1980> max 1900
[02:15] <OerHeks> ablest1980, then add some tasks..
[02:15] <ablest1980> how
[02:16] <Guest99299> how do i know which kernel is supported by ubuntu(latest)? is there a command?
[02:16] <ablest1980> nvm lol
[02:16] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[02:16] <ObrienDave> *whistles*
[02:16] <xangua> !info linux | Guest99299
[02:16] <ablest1980> im good now ty its applying changes
[02:16] <daftykins> Guest99299: yes
[02:16] <xangua> mmmm
[02:17] <daftykins> !info linux-generic
[02:17] <Guest99299> k
[02:17] <OerHeks> oh, i have  3.19.0-18-generic #18
[02:18] <hr49__> okay, so trying to remove lightdm after installing nvudia-346-updates has me installing a bunch of new packages, gdm included
[02:18] <ablest1980> how do i  know which kernal i have?
[02:18] <daftykins> uname -r
[02:18] <hr49__> uname -r
[02:19] <ablest1980> k
[02:19] <ObrienDave> i have 3.13.0-54-generic #91-Ubuntu
[02:19] <ablest1980> 3.13.0-53-generic
[02:20] <ablest1980> im on 14.04lts though
[02:20] <ObrienDave> so am i
[02:20] <EsoRotica> !info trusty-generic
[02:21] <OerHeks> try !info linux-generic trusty
[02:21] <hr49__> ah, it's nvidia-prime that depends on a em
[02:21] <hr49__> s/em/FM
[02:21] <hr49__> gah
[02:21] <hr49__> FM
[02:21] <hr49__> d m
[02:21] <ablest1980> vivid doesnt exist in trusty?
[02:21] <EsoRotica> that's DM sir.
[02:21] <ObrienDave> rofl what ever
[02:21] <hr49__> stupid phone
[02:22] <ObrienDave> operator error ;P
[02:22] <hr49__> no, it's whatever android's autocorrect is
[02:22] <ObrienDave> no, it's not checking the result before hitting send. operator error
[02:23] <hr49__> it changes upon sending
[02:25] <daftykins> no you must hit space after all text *then* send
[02:26] <ObrienDave> stupid phone, how dare you correct the operator ;P
[02:27] <xangua> the dumbphone
[02:27] <hr49__> ...
[02:27] <hr49__> great I just installed gnome
[02:28] <EsoRotica> daftykins: The dist-upgrade had a few errors in chroot sending to /dev/null heres a screenshot http://imgur.com/Jq2iVhf
[02:28] <wastrel> :[
[02:28] <xangua> the I wanna be a smarphone desktop
[02:28] <daftykins> images of text make me a sad panda
[02:28] <hr49__> well, at least something works
[02:28] <EsoRotica> Right on, let me pastie :P
[02:28] <daftykins> hrmm maybe you need /dev mounted
[02:29] <daftykins> exit from the chroot, mount /dev/ to /mnt/dev then re-chroot perhaps
[02:29] <EsoRotica> can I do that with just addiitonal mount commands, or exit?
[02:29] <EsoRotica> oh, okay
[02:30] <hr49__> err... is there a way to use the mouse with gdm?
[02:30] <EsoRotica> daftykins: apt-get install -f?
[02:30] <daftykins> can try sure
[02:30] <hr49__> can't seem to select xfce instead of gnome
[02:31] <hr49__> of course, could be that xfce just isn't going to work for any dm
[02:31] <nicomachus> hm.. if I install ubuntu on an external hdd--not a live version, a full install--will it have a boot sector?
[02:31] <hr49__> which begs the question of how xubuntu-desktop makes it work
[02:31] <daftykins> nicomachus: yip
[02:32] <EsoRotica> daftykins: Still complains about /dev/null ><
[02:32] <daftykins> did you mount actual /dev to chroot/mount/point/dev ?
[02:33] <nicomachus> daftykins: I tried to use it to boot an unresponsive computer and it said "no boot sector" and refused to boot it. but I can boot my laptop from it... but it still goes to GRUB2 and shows my laptop's HD partitions along with the external HD partitions
[02:33] <daftykins> EsoRotica: read this http://aaronbonner.io/post/21103731114/chroot-into-a-broken-linux-install
[02:34] <EsoRotica> daftykins: mount -o bind /media/ubuntu/uuid/dev /mnt/chroot/dev
[02:34] <nicomachus> hm... he's where I was last week. hope you don't have full-disk encryption, EsoRotica, getting chroot gets more complicated then.
[02:34] <EsoRotica> nicomachus: Nah, too much work to maintain
[02:34] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: If you install Ubuntu for UEFI then it won't have any boot sector, as UEFI doesn't use boot sectors but rather files in a fat filesystem.
[02:34] <nicomachus> gods... agreed.
[02:35] <daftykins> EsoRotica: nooo, /dev - the one from the live session
[02:35] <EsoRotica> okay, i see.
[02:35] <nicomachus> Jordan_U: I didn't. It was ntfs, the linux partition on it is ext4
[02:36] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: So both computers are BIOS based?
[02:36] <nicomachus> yes..
[02:37] <hr49__> okay, so doing startx starts gnome, so no good. doing xfdesktop tells me that it can't parse arguments (none provided) and open a display
[02:37] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: Some broke BIOSs refuse to boot drives that don't have an "active" partition. If you don't currently have any partitions set as "active", try setting a primary partition (doesn't even matter which one) as "active" in fdisk and see if your BIOS will boot it then.
[02:37] <Jordan_U> s/broke/broken/
[02:38] <nicomachus> I see... the BIOS on the unresponsive pc won't boot from USB, so I'm using plop boot-manager on a cd to boot the HDD. so that could be it.
[02:39] <daftykins> nicomachus: so you finished that rsync, what's the general task here?
[02:39] <daftykins> surely you're not giving someone a machine booting an external disk XD
[02:40] <nicomachus> daftykins: rsync was apparently too much for the old girl. it froze up on a file for 10 minutes, then rebooted, and wasn't able to resume because live disk.
[02:40] <daftykins> that disk could have issues, have you checked the SMART info?
[02:41] <nicomachus> I wasn't able to unwrap the passphrase after that to remount the encrypted partition, I'm afraid it's all corrupted.
[02:41] <nicomachus> and SMART said it was fine a week ago... haven't checked it since the fail. but it's not even 3 months old, brand new Toshiba from MicroCenter. I'll check here in a sec
[02:41] <daftykins> ah
[02:42] <EsoRotica> nicomachus: hence my fears of full disk encryption
[02:42] <nicomachus> and hence my newfound agreement with you.
[02:42] <daftykins> lol
[02:42] <daftykins> personally i'm not afraid of my cat pics getting into the wrong hands
[02:43] <nicomachus> it's mostly music, movies and tv shows... but I selected full-disk encryption when I did the initial format/partition/install
[02:43] <nicomachus> and there was no going back from there. :/
[02:43] <hr49__> is there a way to use gem without gnome?
[02:43] <xangua> gem¿
[02:44] <hr49__> gdm
[02:44] <EriC^^> hr49__: i suppose so
[02:45] <daftykins> hr49__: you seen this? https://xpressubuntu.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/how-to-install-a-minimal-ubuntu-desktop/
[02:46] <EsoRotica> daftykins: I see where I've been wrong with my chroot now. Should only be a few minutes from getting this finally resolved. Thanks for the proper article
[02:46] <hr49__> daftykins, exactly along the lines of what I was looking for
[02:46] <nicomachus> once again, I am not a smart man.
[02:47] <nicomachus> I was selecting "HDB Partition 2" from the boot-manager menu instead of "USB".
[02:47] <hr49__> hopefully what someone else gas tested will work on my machine
[02:47] <hr49__> s/gas/has
[02:51] <Vainglory> is there a channel for apparmor?
[02:51] <xangua> !alis
[02:52] <Vainglory> eh, doesn't look like there is. would i get apparmor help in here?
[02:52] <daftykins> just ask a question
[02:52] <Jordan_U> Vainglory: Are you using Ubuntu?
[02:52] <Vainglory> Jordan_U: i am
[02:52] <Jordan_U> Vainglory: Then yes, ask away :)
[02:54] <Vainglory> i have apparmor installed, and my nginx site doesn't seem to work now. i have the following : /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/* r, but i still get a DENIED when attempting to read that folder
[02:54] <Vainglory> that's from /var/log/syslog
[02:54] <EsoRotica> daftykins: You're the man, man.
[02:55] <daftykins> booted and working?
[02:56] <Vainglory> audit: type=1400 audit: apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/nginx" name="/etc/nginx/sites-enabled/" comm="nginx" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[02:57] <Vainglory> so, not quite sure as to why it's not working.
[02:57] <Vainglory> i've reloaded the configuration of apparmor, and restarted the nginx service
[02:58] <Vainglory> rebooting the system now to see if that'll work at all
[02:59] <Jordan_U> Vainglory: If you don't get a response here, #ubuntu-server might be a good place to ask.
[02:59] <Vainglory> Jordan_U: thank you
[02:59] <Jordan_U> Vainglory: You're welcome.
[03:05] <hr49__> aha! it was lightdm-gtk-greeter I was missing
[03:06] <brando56894> Hi could someone please look at these errors I have in my .Xsession log? I'm using LXDE and Openbox with Ubuntu 14.04/14.10 (Installed the LTS but had to upgrade the kernel to get my touchpad to work). http://hastebin.com/vanezuneze.coffee    http://hastebin.com/dejutilinu.md
[03:07] <daftykins> hr49__: :)
[03:07] <daftykins> google wins again
[03:08] <hr49__> Google also wins your privacy...
[03:08] <Blue_Sapphire> Hello everyone. I am using Android Studio and have a project open yet when I open the structure panel it says "Nothing to show in the structure view". I dont understand why it's showing that, do you have any ideas?
[03:08] <brando56894> hr49__ : there is no such thing as privacy on the internet hahaha
[03:08] <daftykins> hr49__: are you serious that you'd have preferred to stay with your problem to just avoid typing it into google?
[03:09] <hr49__> no, I use startpage
[03:09] <hr49__> me -> startpage -> Google -> startpage -> me
[03:09] <hr49__> or ixquick
[03:10] <hr49__> or duckduckgo
[03:10] <daftykins> sigh.
[03:10] <daftykins> anyway, point was you were in here for a while and i searched one thing ;)
[03:10] <hr49__> but indeed, there is less and less privacy on the internet
[03:10] <hr49__> but yes, agreed
[03:11] <Blue_Sapphire> I am following a tutorial with someone who is using Eclipse and opened his Outline panel so i opened the structure panel which i read is supposed to be similar. Is there something i need to do?
[03:11] <hr49__> I always search for the wrong things it seems...
[03:12] <daftykins> Blue_Sapphire: no luck in a java channel?
[03:12] <daftykins> or perhaps an eclipse one exists
[03:12] <daftykins> since your query isn't really OS support
[03:13] <Blue_Sapphire> daftykins, is that where i need to be?
[03:13] <B0g4r7> I seem to recall #eclipse existing.
[03:13] <Blue_Sapphire> daftykins, i didnt think to go there
[03:13] <hr49__> sweet! it works with nvidia's binary blob! Thanks everyone!
[03:13] <daftykins> hr49__: your install will probably break on kernel updates, so keep the installer around
[03:14] <daftykins> xorg-edgers PPA and a driver from there might've been easier
[03:15] <hr49__> even using ubuntu's nvidia package?
[03:15] <daftykins> depends which card you have for which version you need
[03:16] <daftykins> i'm just tired so my brain foolishly assumed a modern card that needs newer drivers
[03:18] <hr49__> I've been fine with official packages through plenty of dist-upgrades and through the progression from trusty to utopic to vivid, so probably fine
[03:18] <hr49__> unless live CD is somehow different
[03:31] <glitsj16> hi all, using 14.04 and experiencing trouble when trying to navigate the file system using the keyboard.. file chooser windows don't respond to entering the first few characters .. which makes navigating around quite irritating.. any pointers as to how to start debugging this? i'm assuming this is GTK related, but i'm having a hard time finding the correct phrasing of the problem, so looking at existing bugs so far got me nowhere.
[03:38] <pureland> land
[03:39] <pureland> 哇，好高大上
[03:39] <pureland> 有人没
[03:40] <FreezingDroid> How can I tell when updates were checked for last?
[03:41] <pureland> 怎么都不说话
[03:42] <FreezingDroid> Never mind, looks like it's all working.
[03:43] <Bashing-om> FreezingDroid: /var/log/dpkg.log ??
[03:43] <FreezingDroid> Bashing-om: /var/lib/apt/periodic/
[03:43] <FreezingDroid> that was the actual answer :)
[03:44] <Bashing-om> FreezingDroid: :) look'n .
[03:47] <wheeei> I got quite slow wifi and wonder if it's because I it runs on 802.... and how to disable it? I tried to run sudo rmmod iwlwif but just go the response that iwlif module isn't installed...
[03:48] <Wahm200> hey all wsup
[03:48] <wheeei> or "not currently loaded"
[03:48] <Wahm200> can in install ubuntu in virtual box?
[03:48] <Bashing-om> FreezingDroid: Nope, can not confirm as my /var/lib/apt/periodic is empty .
[03:50] <FreezingDroid> Bashing-om: I don't know what you're even asking
[03:55] <limbera> hello
[03:55] <limbera> i have a 14.04 machine that i use on digital ocean
[03:56] <limbera> i'd liker o format the hard drives, essentially do a complete clean install
[03:56] <limbera> is that possible via ssh?
[04:05] <yvear> hello! say in wheezy stable there is a bug in only one package that is fixed in testing, how should I proceed upgrading? can I use testing for only one thing?
[04:05] <xangua>  /join #debian yvear
[04:07] <yvear> xangua, ok yes but just in general how is this done/what is recommended?
[04:07] <yvear> apt-get
[04:07] <xangua>  you type "/join #debian" and press enter, that's how it's done
[04:09] <yvear> xangua, oh, no I mean using a buggy package that is fixed upstream?
[04:10] <supercom32> Does anyone know what Virtualization software works best with Ubuntu in providing 3D acceleration?
[04:11] <xangua> do you really need 3D acceleration on a virtual machine¿
[04:12] <supercom32> xangua: It seems like an easy way to compromize with playing Windows games on Linux without having to dual boot.
[04:14] <yvear> supercom32, I read vmware, but that was like 2012 iirc
[04:14] <Hilikus> how can i make it so that if i try to connect to a machine in my network using its hostname it resolves correctly to its IP like in windows? currently i have to modify /etc/hosts or use the ip
[04:14] <supercom32> yvear: I heard xen / kvm can do it too. But I don't know which of the solutions are better.
[04:39] <edward__> hi every one
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> edward__: good morning
[04:39] <edward__> thankyou
[04:40] <edward__> im trying to be good
[04:40] <edward__> so
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> edward__: you have an ubuntu question?
[04:41] <edward__> i drink to much
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> !ot | edward__
[04:41] <edward__> no My main op is ubuntu
[04:41] <edward__> so great
[04:42] <edward__> linux forever
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> edward__: please stop using this channel for random lines, only ubuntu support here
[04:43] <edward__> sorry
[04:45] <jzp113> hi guy
[04:46] <jzp113> hi guys  some know  the reverser engineering channel?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> !warez | jzp113
[04:47] <jzp113> ok sorry
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> jzp113: this channel and also network freenode doesnt support h*cking topics
[04:49] <keerla> Hey, so I just have a quick question for anyone who might be able to help me. I'm a big steam enthusiast and i recently tried to play borderlands 2 however when it loads up none of the words are readable so I was wondering if there's something I need to install to make that go away? I'm running debian on my computer currently.
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> jzp113: what you can do, is install ubuntu and download pentesting packages for security issues
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> keerla: ask in #debian please
[04:49] <jzp113> lotuspsychje, I want to swap the caps and  ctrl
[04:56] <linuxmint> Anyone know how to setup RAID? Do I follow Debian net-install? I cancelled my CloneZilla idea as I have to manuall backup, whereas RAID automatically runs the 4 disks, saving my Mint OS if 1 disk breaks.
[04:56] <somsip> linuxmint: Debian? Mint? Neither of these are supported here...
[04:57] <linuxmint> sorry
[05:05] <Marlowe> I have some questions about how to make a USB bootable. Is anyone able to help, please?
[05:06] <xangua> !usb
[05:07] <Marlowe> I don't want to make Ubuntu bootable from a USB.
[05:07] <Marlowe> I am having hard drive issues, and need to put the Western Digital diagnostic tools on a USB.
[05:07] <Marlowe> The only instructions I have involve using a windows utility to make a bootable USB, and adding the WD files.
[05:08] <Marlowe> I can't do that on Ubuntu, and I don't know how to make just a plain old bootable USB so I can run these tools.
[05:09] <Marlowe> Is that something anyone can aid me with?
[05:09] <lokoum> I think it would be better to plug your hard drive in USB and work with an another windows
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> Marlowe: burn the .iso on your usb stick with multiboot
[05:10] <bilal> having screen tearing in linux mint
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !mint | bilal
[05:10] <Marlowe> It's not an iso. WD offers an exe file inside a zip.
[05:10] <Marlowe> And tells you to download a utility that will make the USB bootable
[05:11] <bilal> ok thanks
[05:11] <Marlowe> I have no other systems: just the hard drive in my tower that I need to diagnose, and this laptop I'm on with Ubuntu.
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> Marlowe: then extract the contents of the zip to the usb
[05:12] <Marlowe> Right. And done.
[05:12] <Marlowe> I don't need anything else to make my desktop recognize and run it?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Marlowe: then boot your usb from bios
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Marlowe: or burn that content of zip to a cdrom
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Marlowe: but the easiest way, would be just install ubuntu on your desktop with WD to see if your hd recognizes
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Marlowe: if it has bad blocks, your logs will surely say so
[05:16] <Marlowe> lotuspsychje: downloading a new ubuntu iso now to try.
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Marlowe: if your WD is bad, it wont even show the partitioning from setup
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Marlowe: and if it has badblocks, but able to run, your syslog will spam messages about it
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Marlowe: dont forget to enable internet + updates during setup
[05:19] <Marlowe> Understood.
[05:34] <ChrisW> Hi, does anyone know where I can get better video editing codecs? The AVCHD support is pretty terrible.
[05:36] <ChrisW> I'll come back later then
[05:50] <Blue1> I need to pre-install a printer so the machine can be shipped (i.e. I don't have the printer here) but there seems to be no way to do that --
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Blue1: printer brand?
[05:52] <Blue1> hp
[05:53] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: HP DeskJet 1000 J110a to be exact
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Blue1: install hpliptools
[05:54] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: maybe hplip?  there doesn't seem to be an hpliptools in the repo
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Blue1: yes hplip
[05:55] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: okay installed, and also hplip gui
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Blue1: then when you connect your hp to the box, it will be ready for use
[05:56] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: thanks -- I am trying to set this up for a friend in indebanana.  I am in arizona
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Blue1: best of luck!
[05:57] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: thanks - now I have to debug the vpn -- I think there might me an issue because it connects via wifi
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> !vpn | Blue1
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Blue1: the ##networking guys can help also perhaps, or ask your specific issue in this channel
[06:02] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: i know how to set up a vpn, but I think it's a wifi thing -- I'll try a hardwire connection tomorrow.
[06:02] <Blue1> lotuspsychje: thank you for all your help - that will be one less thing to worry about....
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> ok cheers
[06:10] <etch> Hi, folks. I updated my Chrome browser today. Now I have a very large window frame (huge tabs and a huge address bar). Do you have similar issues?
[06:10] <sveta> upload screenshot to www.imgur.com please and I would suggest to try under another fresh new OS user just in case
[06:10] <sveta> for troubleshooting purposes
[06:15] <etch> sveta, here it is: http://imgur.com/TWL5SAD
[06:16] <nemith> others at work have reported that as well
[06:17] <etch> nemith, what did they do?
[06:17] <nemith> i have no idea.  I have been running the beta and it has other issues but not that one ;)
[06:17] <nemith> yet
[06:18] <sveta> etch: thanks. this is discussed at https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/yZi2_2YxfMY with a link to this bug: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=375824
[06:19] <sveta> etch: fixed in chrome 38
[06:19] <jc_> why does my desktop ubuntu try to update package list for armhf? I get 404 @ sudo apt-get update
[06:19] <etch> sveta, my fonts are okay.
[06:19] <etch> Font size hasn't changed.
[06:20] <sveta> ah. and what version have you got?
[06:20] <etch> Ah, that one sounds great: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=477716
[06:21] <etch> It's exactly my problem.
[06:22] <sveta> great. they say it's fixed in 45.0.2414.0 (or a bit earlier)
[06:22] <darthanubis> does unity need compiz?
[06:22] <jc_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11688287/
[06:30] <jc_> why does my ubunu 14.04 desktop amd64 wants to fetch packages for armhf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11688287/
[06:34] <etch> A bit messy, but I could fix it by adding "--force-device-scale-factor=1" as parameter within the desktop icon.
[06:35] <sveta> that's the one
[06:35] <etch> Thx.
[06:39] <sorinb> Hello. Can someone tell me in which package the preferred applications feature is located ?
[06:39] <thomedy> if i  ffmpeg can i turn any video into h264 with the same ffmpeg  command
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> sorinb: you mean details icon?
[06:42] <sorinb> lotuspsychje, : I'm actually on xubuntu, and I am trying to determine if this feature comes with xfce or is Ubuntu standard
[06:43] <pitiye_> any bumblebee users on 15.04 ?
[06:43] <sorinb> lotuspsychje, I am talking about the settiing where you define your default browser, email agent, terminal client and file manager
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> sorinb: not sure on xubuntu sorry
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> sorinb: on ubuntu its the details icon
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: your card is optimus?
[06:44] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje:   yes
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | pitiye_
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: bumblebee is outdates mate
[06:44] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje:  so what should i pick then ?
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: nvidia-prime, install that one and reboot to enable performance mode
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: then you can enable your nvidia card
[06:45] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje: Arthritis in Hand
[06:46] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje: nvidia-prime is already the newest version.
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: ok and can you set performance mode in nvidia-settings?
[06:47] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje:   yes i can , but the issue is that i cannot use optirun command
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: what are you trying to do exactly
[06:48] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje:  i want blender to use optimus
[06:48] <pitiye_> by using optirun blender
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> sorinb: maybe ask in #xubuntu
[06:48] <sorinb> lotuspsychje, I just did
[06:48] <sveta> sorinb: that feature is a part of xfce
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: not sure for blender sorry, never used it before
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: doublecheck nvidia-settings if your card says performance mode
[06:49] <sveta> sorinb: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/exo/preferred-applications
[06:49] <sorinb> sveta, could you tell me the package name where its code is located ? I'd like to see the source code
[06:49] <sorinb> thanks sveta
[06:49] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje:  and my card gets overheated and system gets shutdown :/
[06:50] <sveta> sorinb: maybe in this archive http://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.12/src/xfce4-settings-4.12.0.tar.bz2, i am not sure; ask #xfce
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: thats not good news, had same overheat on 14.04?
[06:50] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje:  yes
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: wich grafix card exactly?
[06:50] <pitiye_> 540m GT
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: tryed other drivers switch?
[06:51] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje:  what do u mean ?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: checl sudo lshw -C video behind driver=
[06:52] <sveta> sorinb: i am 99.9% sure it is somewhere in here: http://git.xfce.org/xfce/exo/tree/
[06:52] <sveta> sorinb: since the wiki page mentions exo, and this is the exo tree
[06:53] <sorinb> sveta, found it, thanks :)
[06:54] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje:  sorry did not got u
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: your graphics card needs a driver on ubuntu, right
[06:54] <tr3ee> hi guys, i am running ubuntu in virtualbox, but initially i had setup storage of 8GB and it is gonna be full soon , googled and found "VBoxManage modifyhd "path-of-disk-file" --resize"
[06:54] <sveta> sorinb: excellent; congratulations
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: you can try a switch in additional drivers section
[06:55] <tr3ee> may i know how to find path-of-disk-file?
[06:57] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje: hang on i am pasting ur command now
[06:57] <pitiye_> lotuspsychje: http://pastie.org/10232580
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: driver=nvidia latency=0
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> pitiye_: try another driver perhaps
[07:00] <pitiye_> i am using nvidia 346 which is latest i guess
[07:02] <sheap> is it possible to make a program run in my desktop session from the tty?
[07:03] <jc_> why does my ubunu 14.04 desktop amd64 wants to fetch packages for armhf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11688287/
[07:07] <phix> jc_: cause your network provider has injected those as you are not using http in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:07] <phix> https even
[07:10] <jc_> phix: hmm, what to do? :P
[07:19]  * Daedalus-x 
[07:19]  * Daedalus-x 
[07:19]  * Daedalus-x This is an action 
[07:21] <Savemech> hi there, just finished installing ubuntu on my laptop; and i got this http://i.imgur.com/A5jnB0z.jpg what i could do now to get rid of this and boot in normal way? :C
[07:31] <Guest11487> hi guy
[07:35] <EriC^> Savemech: do you have a live usb?
[07:42] <Savemech> EriC^^, yes, i have
[07:42] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:42] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[07:45] <Savemech> EriC^^, https://bpaste.net/show/067aba470da1
[07:47] <EriC^^> Savemech: what's the 8gb partition?
[07:48] <Savemech> EriC^^, its for swap
[07:49] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[07:49] <EriC^^> Savemech: also, type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[07:51] <Savemech> EriC^^, https://bpaste.net/show/bfd47d8a876d
[07:52] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[07:53] <Segads> Hey guys
[07:54] <Segads> Anyone online
[07:54] <EriC^^> Savemech: did you do this http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_Can_XFS_be_used_for_a_root_filesystem.3F ?
[07:55] <Savemech> EriC^^, https://bpaste.net/show/dab8d58df2c9
[07:55] <Segads> Hey
[07:55] <Savemech> EriC^^, nope, i did not
[07:56] <Segads> I just finished installing Ubuntu 15.04
[07:56] <Segads> Works great,  the nvidia drivers and everything else is working just fine
[07:57] <Segads> Took me a couple of hours figure it out how to configure a nas drive through
[07:57] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[07:58] <Savemech> EriC^^, wow, why were chrooting; could you just point me where i did wrong?
[07:58] <Segads> How much ram are you using?
[07:59] <Segads> I just check and says 890mb
[07:59] <EriC^^> Savemech: to reinstall grub, /boot/efi didn't exist initially
[07:59] <EriC^^> so first things first, we'll give it a shot
[08:00] <trijntje> Segads: how did you check?
[08:00] <Savemech> EriC^^, i think asking here "why it is not installed via initial installation" is just useless :)
[08:00] <Segads> I use htop
[08:00] <EriC^^> Savemech: who knows
[08:01] <EriC^^> Savemech: it's not common, i guess it could be due to xfs or something
[08:01] <Warmonger> Fuck Ubuntu!
[08:01] <trijntje> !ops | Warmonger
[08:02] <Warmonger> Ubuntu is shit
[08:02] <Warmonger> I hate it
[08:02] <Segads> I like Windows 7 but I have to admit Ubuntu is better
[08:02] <Savemech> EriC^^, done;and i did need to create these dirs also
[08:02] <Warmonger> 0_0
[08:02] <Warmonger> I personly like Mac
[08:02] <trijntje> Segads: you can use system monitor to check how much ram you use
[08:03] <EriC^^> Savemech: something is wrong
[08:03] <EriC^^> Savemech: i think you mounted to /mnt/sda3 instead of /mnt
[08:03] <EriC^^> Savemech:  please type mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:03] <Savemech> EriC^^, btw i had really multiple xfs on root installations; but also all of them is MBR
[08:03] <vooze> Anyone else using google chrome stable, where its not twice as big? It seems it scaling x2 / 200% for no reason.
[08:03] <vooze> where its now **
[08:03] <Segads> Well my brother likes Mac too, personally never use it
[08:03] <Savemech> EriC^^, yes i did, let me then remount in proper way
[08:04] <trijntje> Segads: but 900mb sounds about right
[08:04] <Warmonger> why so much kicks?
[08:04] <Tm_T> vooze: try launch chrome with switch "--force-device-scale-factor=1" and see if that makes any difference
[08:04] <Warmonger> I am French
[08:04] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, unmount it and then delete the dirs you created
[08:04] <Daedalus-x> mmm
[08:05] <Segads> Yea and I was watching a movie In 720p
[08:05] <Segads> It use less ram Tham my phone
[08:05] <vooze> Tm_T: it does. But the problem is that I have an external monitor that uses scaling 1. And my laptop 1.25, so I would have to change all the time :/ Just wanted to hear if it was just me. It JUST updated, so its a new problem
[08:05] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, type for i in /dev/pts /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done
[08:06] <Segads> My phone use at least 1.2gb of ram
[08:06] <Segads> Is crazy
[08:06] <Savemech> EriC^^, yea, but /proc is mounting nowhere i got segfault; rebooting to live again now
[08:06] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok
[08:07] <Segads> I have problems with a nas drive
[08:07] <Segads> Is a Seagate personal cloud 4tb
[08:07] <Segads> Is working now
[08:08] <Segads> I use a separate network for the nas drive
[08:08] <Savemech> EriC^^, got a bunch of "cant find /mnt/$i in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[08:08] <EriC^^> Savemech: did you reboot the live usb?
[08:08] <EriC^^> that command was just to unmount stuff so you can delete the dirs, nevermind it
[08:08] <Segads> Is just a switch with the nas drive is not connected to the Internet
[08:09] <Tm_T> vooze: right, I believe it's known issue
[08:09] <EriC^^> Savemech: also please type everything exactly as i'm typing it
[08:09] <Savemech> EriC^^, i did mount again /dev/sda3 to /mnt and then mount other /dev/{things,things,}
[08:09] <Segads> I have to disconnect the wifi and them Ubuntu recognized the nas
[08:10] <Segads> Is working fine though
[08:10] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[08:10] <Savemech> EriC^^, done
[08:10] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, sudo chroot /mnt
[08:10] <Savemech> EriC^^, done
[08:11] <EriC^^> Savemech: apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[08:11] <Savemech> grub want specified target
[08:12] <Segads> I think it was a bad idea bought that nas drive
[08:12] <Segads> Is slow as hell
[08:12] <EriC^^> Savemech: /dev/sda
[08:12] <Segads> Why nas drives are soo slow anyway
[08:13] <Savemech> EriC^^,  i mean https://bpaste.net/show/d9aedd7fd8bf
[08:13] <EriC^^> Savemech: target for what? the efi partition?
[08:13] <EriC^^> Savemech: you didn't run the for i command correctly
[08:14] <EriC^^> Savemech: type exit
[08:14] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[08:14] <EriC^^> Savemech: exactly as it is
[08:14] <EriC^^> character, for character
[08:14] <Segads> Haha no one is talking to me
[08:14] <Segads> I'm leaving now
[08:14] <Savemech> EriC^^, what did i miss O_o
[08:15] <EriC^^> Savemech: you missed the -B $i part
[08:15] <EriC^^> Savemech: also, put /dev before /dev/pts
[08:15] <bujji> webmail configuration in linux info..
[08:16] <Savemech> EriC^^, goes smoothly; then proceed to chroot? :)
[08:16] <EriC^^> Savemech: yes
[08:16] <Savemech> EriC^^, invoking apt to install efi-grub
[08:16] <bujji> popey:hello
[08:16] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok
[08:17] <popey> bujji: you're probably better off asking your question than pinging me specifically
[08:17] <bujji> popey:i ping you hello))
[08:17] <popey> ah, hello.
[08:18] <bujji> :))
[08:18] <Savemech> EriC^^,  i mean https://bpaste.net/show/b0de4c83dc89
[08:18] <EriC^^> Savemech: apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[08:19] <bujji> any info webmail configuration in linux
[08:19] <Savemech> E: Internal Error, No file name for grub-efi-amd64-signed:amd64
[08:19] <Savemech> meanwhile dpkg -l shows me this package installed
[08:20] <EriC^^> Savemech: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[08:20] <rsrathha> hoi
[08:20] <rsgaugma> hallo
[08:20] <EriC^^> Savemech: nevermind the sudo, no need
[08:20] <bujji> hoi
[08:20] <bujji> hallo))
[08:21] <rsrathha> alles fit im schritt
[08:21] <rsgaugma> was geht
[08:21] <Savemech> EriC^^, same; https://bpaste.net/show/b0de4c83dc89
[08:21] <bujji> O_o
[08:22] <EriC^^> !info grub-efi-amd64-signed
[08:22] <Savemech> EriC^^, i did apt-get -f install; here is output https://bpaste.net/show/d089bd316e41
[08:23] <EriC^^> Savemech: great, type update-grub
[08:23] <Savemech> EriC^^, done
[08:23] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, did it pick up the kernels and initrd?
[08:24] <Savemech> yea, two of them *52 and *53
[08:24] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, type exit
[08:24] <EriC^^> Savemech: then try rebooting and see if it works
[08:24] <Savemech> EriC^^, k, le me sec
[08:25] <Savemech> EriC^^, nope; same grub screen
[08:26] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok, type configfile (hd1,gpt3)/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:27] <rsrathha> hi
[08:27] <rsgaugma> hi
[08:27] <Savemech> EriC^^, done; but its hd0
[08:27] <der> hi
[08:27] <DeineMamIstSchwu> Do u like my name?
[08:27] <EriC^^> Savemech: ok
[08:27] <rsgaugma> yes
[08:27] <rsrathha> yes
[08:28] <EriC^^> Savemech: type boot
[08:28] <Savemech> EriC^^, its tell me that i need to load kernel 1st
[08:28] <EriC^^> Savemech: when you typed configfile (hd0,gpt3)/boot/grub/grub.cfg nothing happened?
[08:29] <EriC^^> or it reset the prompt?
[08:29] <Savemech> EriC^^, its like i press ctrl+l at terminal; refresg screen and blank grub cli
[08:29] <EriC^^> oh ok
[08:29] <Savemech> EriC^^, reset, yes; that word :)
[08:30] <EriC^^> i guess it's booting the right config then
[08:30] <EriC^^> maybe it's something to do with xfs, a parameter to be passed or something?
[08:31] <Savemech> EriC^^, there is no way to "load that kernel" in grub cli?
[08:32] <EriC^^> Savemech: type insmod xfs
[08:33] <EriC^^> Savemech: insmod part_gpt , then insmod ext2
[08:33] <Savemech> sec
[08:33] <Savemech> EriC^^, xfs.mod not found :C
[08:34] <EriC^^> hmm
[08:34] <EriC^^> i have it here
[08:34] <Savemech> EriC^^, gpt did load sucessfully i think(no any output)
[08:36] <EriC^^> Savemech: type ls (hd0,gpt3)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/
[08:36] <EriC^^> Savemech: is there the xfs.mod there?
[08:37] <Savemech> EriC^^, unknown FS, oh i think i got where error is; is this something wrong with grub and somehow its cant bootchain OK
[08:37] <EriC^^> i think you need to put have the xfs.mod there so it can read it
[08:38] <EriC^^> Savemech: it's odd i have that file
[08:39] <EriC^^> Savemech: try booting the live usb again, i guess
[08:39] <Savemech> EriC^^, where i can get this fancy file?
[08:39] <EriC^^> Savemech: it's supposed to be in the package
[08:39] <EriC^^> maybe you have it, who knows
[08:41] <EriC^^> Savemech: are you sure the filesystem is in tact?
[08:41] <Savemech> EriC^^, no, i not; probably its time to use ext4
[08:42] <Savemech> meanwhile debian jessie at xfs works well without any issues(non-working skype not count!:)
[08:44] <EriC^^> Savemech: :D
[08:45] <EriC^^> Savemech: you could try asking in ##linux somebody might know
[08:45] <Savemech> EriC^^, i just boot to livecd again
[08:45] <Savemech> EriC^^, and you know; there is a lot of them; also xfs.mod here
[08:46] <EriC^^> yeah, it makes sense
[08:46] <Savemech> there is also zfs.mod, which i was really surprised about; and idk why this grub wont make me happy
[08:46] <Savemech> i suppose reinstall to ext4 wont solve my problem :C
[08:47] <agent_white> Mornin'
[08:48] <EriC^^> Savemech: hmm, ask in ##linux about it
[08:48] <Vainglory> what am i missing here? apparmor is denying nginx.. audit: type=1400 audit: apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/nginx" name="/etc/nginx/sites-enabled/" pid=1905 comm="nginx" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r"
[08:48] <EriC^^> Savemech: ext4 should work i guess, but xfs might too
[08:48] <Savemech> EriC^^, well, thank you
[08:49] <EriC^^> no problem
[08:54] <Guest88183> what is the file manager that is partially embedded into all applications called in kde?
[08:54] <Guest88183> not the name of the specific manager but the name of that place in the system
[08:55] <Guest88183> what is that called? its naturally embedded into applications
[08:55] <Amm0n> Vainglory, did you create an apparmor profile for nginx?
[08:55] <Vainglory> Amm0n: yes i dod
[08:56] <Vainglory> did*
[08:56] <Vainglory> i have   /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/* r,
[08:56] <Vainglory> in there
[08:58] <Vainglory> Amm0n: any idea?
[08:59] <Amm0n> Vainglory, well i think there is something wrong with this profile.. did you see:https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-an-apparmor-profile-for-nginx-on-ubuntu-14-04
[08:59] <Vainglory> yep, exact one i followed.
[09:00] <Vainglory> http://p.ngx.cc/e7a12910d071b0c0 is what i've added
[09:00] <Vainglory> and it complains about /etc/nginx/sites-enabled
[09:01] <remmas-sidahmed> Hello anyone
[09:01] <Madsy> In crtmpserver, what exactly are "external streams" in the flvplayback sample application?
[09:02] <dhliu> join #gcin
[09:06] <theNoobieLinuxUs> hey! :D
[09:07] <theNoobieLinuxUs> just installing Ubuntu MATE as we speak :3
[09:07] <theNoobieLinuxUs> first time using Linux
[09:07] <theNoobieLinuxUs> but I think it will be an easier OS to use, during my time programming.
[09:08] <hackal> Hello, I plugged in my new monitor (27') to my notebook using VGA and I am getting only 1920 x 1080 resolution. I am unable to change it to 2560 x 1440. How can I troubleshoot this issue? 14.04
[09:08] <UbuntuNoob> :/
[09:08] <UbuntuNoob> ohhh
[09:08] <k1l> UbuntuNoob: just give it a try :) if you have issue you can ask here
[09:08] <UbuntuNoob> i had this problem.
[09:09] <Vainglory> hackal: xrandar, probably
[09:09] <UbuntuNoob> @hackal, your graphics card is only built for some certain resolutions.
[09:09] <k1l> hackal: waht video card?
[09:09] <UbuntuNoob> if you laptop monitor, and your external monitor are exactly the same resolution (and inches/size etc.) you shouldn't have any trouble.
[09:10] <hackal> I also have nvidia graphics card but when I check system details it shows Intel Ivybridge Mobile graphics card
[09:10] <Amm0n> Vainglory, can you paste the profile?
[09:10] <Vainglory> yes, one moment
[09:10] <k1l> hackal: can you pastebin a "lspci"?
[09:10] <UbuntuNoob> hmm yeah, I'm guessing your two monitors are different sizes, in that case, nothing can really be done...
[09:10] <k1l> !paste | hackal
[09:10] <k1l> UbuntuNoob: hackal different screensizes are not an issue on ubuntu.
[09:11] <hackal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11689119/
[09:11] <UbuntuNoob> :O rally
[09:11] <UbuntuNoob> that's amazing..
[09:12] <k1l> hackal: did you install the nvidia driver in the prop. drivers tab in "system settings- updates and software"?
[09:12] <Vainglory> Amm0n: http://p.ngx.cc/91b0a974fef30c49
[09:12] <UbuntuNoob> So here I am, trying to allocate and reassign space to my current partition, to install Ubuntu MATE. It did say it would take a long time, but it's been 20 minutes now, and I'm not sure if it's still busy, or the program/process is not responding.
[09:13] <UbuntuNoob> Is there any way to tell?
[09:13]  * UbuntuNoob is MEH
[09:13] <k1l> UbuntuNoob: with big drives it can take very long. just wait
[09:14] <UbuntuNoob> hmm, It's not like it's T or anything.. it is 130gb that I'm trying to assign however, so you are probably right.
[09:14]  * UbuntuNoob is turning 17 in 3 hours!!! :D
[09:14] <hackal> k1l: http://i.imgur.com/MM0btju.png
[09:15] <hackal> I should probably change to nvidia 331.113
[09:15] <k1l> hackal: ok, check the first option: nvidia binary version 311.113
[09:15] <UbuntuNoob> lucky S.O.B's, with awesome GPU
[09:15] <UbuntuNoob> i'm stuck with a damn Intel HD 4000!!!!!
[09:15] <UbuntuNoob> I can hardly run oblivion!!
[09:15] <UbuntuNoob> :/
[09:16] <UbuntuNoob> Guys don't mind my noob-linguistic talk, I've used Windows for my entire life.
[09:16] <UbuntuNoob> No doubt, most of you don't even use linux for gaming.
[09:16] <Amm0n> Vainglory, try to change the line /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/ r, to: /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/* r,
[09:17] <UbuntuNoob> I
[09:18] <UbuntuNoob> I'm used to Windows symbols, markers and syntax etc., but all this Ubuntu SYNTAX confuses me..
[09:18] <UbuntuNoob> like when you open terminal
[09:18] <k1l> UbuntuNoob: just give it a try.
[09:18] <UbuntuNoob> and you see: '
[09:18] <UbuntuNoob> ubuntu-mate@ubuntu-mate:~$ ^C
[09:18] <Vainglory> Amm0n: when i restart the nginx service it chokes on         include /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/*;
[09:19] <UbuntuNoob> I have *no* idea what this all means. ;-;
[09:19] <k1l> UbuntuNoob: what what means? you mean the prompt in the terminal?
[09:19] <UbuntuNoob> yeah
[09:19] <k1l> UbuntuNoob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:20] <UbuntuNoob> cheers, i'll check it out :D
[09:20] <Vainglory> which syslog says... audit: type=1400 audit: apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/nginx" name="/etc/nginx/sites-enabled/" pid=3006 comm="nginx" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[09:20] <hackal> k1l: I am now using the nvidia driver.
[09:20]  * UbuntuNoob is afk
[09:20] <k1l> hackal: did you reboot?
[09:20] <hackal> k1l: no, I am rebooting now, I will be right back.
[09:20] <astroboy> is there in ubuntu apps that can post to blog?
[09:23] <UbuntuNoob> what are the physical differences bewteen 'Unity' and 'GNOME'?
[09:24] <Savemech> EriC^^, well i do reinstall with efi-ext4 and works well; why silicon graphics, why?
[09:24] <k1l> physical? none. they are both desktops on top of gnome3 basis
[09:24] <UbuntuNoob> oh oki
[09:25] <UbuntuNoob> "The easiest way to open the Terminal is to use the 'search' function on the dash. "
[09:25] <UbuntuNoob> in Ubuntu MATE, THIS doesn't work for me..
[09:25] <UbuntuNoob> the search function.
[09:25] <UbuntuNoob> is it under a different key than
[09:25] <UbuntuNoob> -
[09:25] <k1l> because you dont use unity. if you want unity with unity functions use unity as a desktop
[09:26] <UbuntuNoob> ohh, right, I didn't even know I was using Unity or not xD
[09:26] <UbuntuNoob> thnx
[09:26] <k1l> on mate you need to click through the menu. i mean that is why people use mate, they like use the menu
[09:26] <UbuntuNoob> hmm
[09:27] <zamba> /etc/udev/rules.d/persistent-net* isn't generated on my system
[09:27] <zamba> what's going on?
[09:27] <astroboy> 👍
[09:27] <Amm0n> Vainglory, include /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/*; is in nginx.conf and /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/* r, in your apparmor profile?
[09:27] <hackal> k1l: Hello, I rebooted the laptop, in system details I can now see I am using nvidia as graphics card. However the monitor is still at 1920x1080 (no higher resolution available in settings) and it is bugged.
[09:27] <k1l> UbuntuNoob: you installed ubuntu-mate. so you have the mate desktop. unity is shipped as standard on the original ubuntu install media.  but you always can install unity when installing the "ubuntu-desktop" metapackage
[09:27] <UbuntuNoob> on windows, you can right click the taskbar, and select the option to view 2 windows side by side. Is there any way to do this in MATE?
[09:28] <k1l> hackal: any adapters involved?
[09:28] <hackal> k1l: do you mean cable adapters? No I use only VGA cable.
[09:29] <k1l> hackal: yeah, hdmi/dvi to vga adapters are known to cause issues. that is why i asked
[09:30] <Vainglory> Amm0n: yes
[09:30] <k1l> hackal: so the right driver is running. try the nvidia-settings menu to set the right resolution.
[09:30] <hackal> I also have one more cable I could use its hdmi -> dvi
[09:30] <k1l> hackal: if that doesnt work you might need to fake the edid the monitor sends. but i am not familiar with that.
[09:30] <k1l> hackal: i would give it a try
[09:31] <hplc> sometimes the "usb creator", "unetbootin" etc etc fails, what is the most likely combination to work? in terms of filesystem type, partition type and in case of dd, the size set on " bs= "?
[09:31] <k1l> hplc: just dd the ubuntu.iso onto the device (/dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1). as bs= i use 1M
[09:31] <EriC^^> Savemech: what do you mean?
[09:32] <EriC^^> Savemech: you used ext4 instead of xfs and it worked?
[09:32] <EriC^^> you changed the filesystem completely?
[09:33] <hplc> been using just 1M for bs, could it be the flag for "boot" is not set?
[09:33] <hplc> how to set flags in terminal?
[09:33] <DeeP> hi
[09:35] <gagalicious> how do i start nfs server? is there a command? i cant do service nfs restart
[09:37] <hackal> k1l: hdmi->dvi is not working too, I am only able to get 1650x1080 resolution
[09:37] <Savemech> EriC^^, yes its worked with ext4
[09:38] <EriC^^> Savemech: great! :)
[09:38] <Savemech> EriC^^, all the same; but i done replace xfs with ext4 and now im messing with xfce time widget; he misspels day of week in russian :C
[09:40] <Amm0n> Vainglory, apparmor denied r-access to /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/ thats all i can tell you from that error msg.. is nginx picking up sites in that folder if you deactivate that profile?
[09:40] <Vainglory> how would i deactivate it?
[09:41] <philip_> hello
[09:41] <philip_> what to change my ip address to a name.
[09:42] <hplc> somethings gone bad :(  according to parted "Error: /dev/sdk: unrecognised disk label "
[09:42] <Amm0n> Vainglory, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[09:42] <philip_> what to change my ip address to a name.
[09:44] <rory> philip_: Do you mean on IRC?
[09:45] <rory> philip_: It will use whatever is the reverse DNS record for that IP... also known as a PTR record
[09:45] <rory> philip_: If you have a home internet connection, you probably can't set it
[09:45] <philip_> okay...how will i go about it
[09:45] <rory> philip_: Contact your ISP
[09:45] <sveta> philip_: hi.
[09:46] <sveta> philip_: what do you mean 'change your ip address to a name', where are you seeing that information?
[09:46] <philip_> i have a public ip address which i want to change to a name on my ubuntu
[09:46] <philip_> sveta:to a domain name
[09:46] <rory> "change to a name" where? Could you explain a different way
[09:47] <sveta> philip_: where would you see the domain name instead of the ip?
[09:47] <rory> What is currently happening, and what would you like to happen instead
[09:47] <UbuntuNoob> it's been like.. 1.5 hours, still hasn't progressed to the next level...
[09:47] <philip_> i have no idea thats why i am asking on how to change my ip to a name on my ubuntu server
[09:48] <UbuntuNoob> i'm pretty sure there's a chance it could be 'not responding;
[09:48] <UbuntuNoob> '
[09:48] <rory> philip_: You can't just keep repeating that
[09:48] <rory> philip_: Nobody knows what you mean
[09:48] <sveta> rory: he rephrased
[09:48] <sveta> philip_: where does the ip show?
[09:48] <rory> inb4 "on my ubuntu"
[09:49] <hplc> could be he mean register an domain for a www, ftp, gopher etc etc
[09:49] <philip_> i have a public ip connected to my server, of which alot of software are been installed and mostly displyed on the web
[09:50] <philip_> instaead of me using an ip to display those wed software will love to use a name
[09:50] <rory> philip_: OK I understand
[09:50] <rory> philip_: You need to buy a domain name from a registrar like gandi.net
[09:50] <rory> philip_: And then use their web console to point the domain at your IP, by adding a DNS A record
[09:51] <GeHa> What documentation has mention of a default x11 cursor files location?
[09:52] <k1l> philip_: you will need a dyndns service for that
[09:52] <Amm0n> Vainglory, maybe this is related to your issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1390223
[09:52] <philip_> okay.....kil how will i go about that
[09:53] <k1l> philip_: easiest way is: see what your router supports for dyndns and make an account there
[09:54] <sveta> GeHa: `man xcursorgen' mentions `Xcursor(3)', but `man Xcursor' says this does not exist. odd.
[09:54] <k1l> philip_: if your router software doesnt have that feature you need to setup services yourself. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS that explains what and how.
[09:56] <GeHa> sveta, where are the linux days these days . . .   ,  good point )
[10:00] <Unhammer> when testing a mainline kernel, it panics with "no working init found" – what do I pass to init=?
[10:00] <Unhammer> on 15.04, so using systemd
[10:07] <Unhammer> oh nvm I was running the wrong architecture
[10:10] <beast> DavyJones
[10:14] <pingo> does anyone know how to do ubuntu headless server install through serial console?
[10:15] <mobile3> how to solve this problem "Php command line not detected"
[10:15] <pingo> I tried appending "console=ttyS0,115200n8" to kernel parameters
[10:15] <pingo> But I get "Undefined video mode number: 314"
[10:17] <stormchaser3000> hi
[10:17] <mobile3> any one can help ...... how to solve this problem "Php command line not detected" ??
[10:18] <shibly> Hi, how are you all?
[10:18] <mobile3> can anyone help me ?
[10:18] <shibly> mobile3, What is the problem?
[10:19] <pkircher> apt-get install php-cli
[10:19] <mobile3> shibly: how to solve this problem "Php command line not detected"
[10:19] <pkircher> the hint is in the error
[10:19] <pkircher> .. you dont have the cli installed
[10:19] <pkircher> apt-get install php-cli
[10:20] <shibly> mobile3, aptitude search php-cli
[10:20] <shibly> mobile3, aptitude install php-cli
[10:20] <Ben64> not aptitude, use apt-get
[10:20] <ImJune> hello again
[10:21] <mobile3> shibly , -bash: aptitude: command not found
[10:21] <Ben64> mobile3: use apt-get
[10:21] <shibly> mobile3, apt-get install aptitude
[10:21] <ImJune> Is there A way I can have the grub screen skipped
[10:21] <pkircher> mobile3: are you reading what someone actualy writes
[10:21] <ImJune> to make my boot faster
[10:21] <mobile3> pkircher, E: Unable to locate package php-cli
[10:21] <Ben64> shibly: theres no reason to use aptitude
[10:21] <pkircher> apt-cache search php-cli
[10:22] <pkircher> apt-get update first probably
[10:22] <Ben64> it is php5-cli on my system
[10:22] <pkircher> might as well be php5-cli
[10:22] <pkircher> yup
[10:24] <mobile3> to all : aptitude install php-cli Couldn't find package "php-cli".  However, the following packages contain "php-cli" in their name:   php-google-api-php-client Couldn't find package "php-cli".  However, the following packages contain "php-cli" in their name:   php-google-api-php-client No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B of arch
[10:25] <Ben64> mobile3: sudo apt-get install php5-cli
[10:25] <shibly> mobile3, Did you do aptitude search php-cli first ?
[10:26] <shibly> mobile3, Try aptitude install php5-cli
[10:26] <Ben64> shibly: please don't suggest aptitude here
[10:26] <Ben64> its not installed by default, its an extra step to install it, it doesn't work any better than apt-get
[10:27] <shibly> There is nothing wrong with aptitude
[10:27] <mobile3> shibly : yes,  aptitude install php5-cli No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
[10:27] <Ben64> mobile3: sudo apt-get install php5-cli
[10:27] <k1l> mobile3: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[10:27] <k1l> mobile3: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[10:28] <shibly> mobile3, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/10976/how-do-i-install-a-php-cli-with-a-usable-interactive-prompt-on-debian-wheezy
[10:28] <mobile3> Ben64: sudo apt-get install php5-cli Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done php5-cli is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:28] <nPranav> Hi.. I am running out of memory when i run 'dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/mnt/USB/backup.img bs=1024' (hda1 s 512MB, and RAM is 128MB). Any ideas how can i create a backup without running out of memory?
[10:28] <shibly> mobile3, paste the result of "dpkg -l | grep php"
[10:29] <mobile3> k1l: Ubuntu 14.04 x86 Minimal
[10:29] <k1l> nPranav: please show a "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:29] <k1l> !paste | nPranav
[10:29] <Ben64> mobile3: where are you getting the error you came in here for
[10:30] <mobile3> dpkg -l | grep php ii  php5-cli                        5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.9           i386         command-line interpreter for the php5 scripting language ii  php5-common                     5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.9           i386         Common files for packages built from the php5 source ii  php5-json                       1.3.2-2build1                   i386         JSON module for php5 ii  php5-readline                   5.5.9+d
[10:30] <mobile3> ben64: pydio file manager installation
[10:31] <nPranav> k1l: wait please
[10:31] <adsc> nPranav: don't use of, pipe it into gzip instead
[10:32] <nPranav> adsc: hmm..
[10:32] <adsc> dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1024 | gzip > /mnt/USB/backup.img.gz
[10:32] <mobile3_> I was disconnected
[10:32] <adsc> nPranav: but you still have to make sure that there is enough space on the USB device
[10:33] <adsc> nPranav: for a full disk image
[10:33] <nPranav> adsc: my USB drive is empty 4GB
[10:33] <adsc> nPranav: and how big is your hda1?
[10:33] <mobile3_> shibly, ben64, chk..., I was disconnected...
[10:33] <nPranav> adsc: will 'bs' impact too on memory? i used 1024, and then 128. out of memory showed on both.
[10:34] <nPranav> adsc: 512 MB
[10:34] <nPranav> my RAM is 128 MB
[10:34] <mobile3_> shibly, ben64, chk... are you there ?
[10:34] <k1l> nPranav: please show the fdisk.
[10:35] <k1l> nPranav: i still dont think the input is that small
[10:35] <adsc> yeah
[10:35] <nPranav> i don't see how piping to gzip can prevent me from running out of memory
[10:35] <adsc> it has nothing to do with RAM
[10:35] <k1l> nPranav: please provide the facts so we not have to guess
[10:35] <nPranav> sure
[10:36] <mobile3_> anyone there ?
[10:37] <k1l> mobile3_: the last questions was: where do you get that error from?
[10:37] <mobile3_> k1l: pydio file manager installation
[10:37] <TJ-> nPranav: try adding "oflag=nocache,direct" to your original command
[10:38] <k1l> mobile3_: https://pyd.io/f/topic/solved-php-command-line-not-detected/
[10:38] <Walex> k1l: "provide the facts so we not have to guess" goes against IRC tradition! :-)
[10:38] <mobile3_> k1l: there is no proper information in that page...
[10:39] <k1l> mobile3_: there is
[10:39] <mobile3_> I read that too many times
[10:39] <nPranav> k1l: adsc http://imgur.com/7KUQpA9
[10:40] <adsc> nPranav: try TJ-'s suggestion
[10:40] <nPranav> ok
[10:42] <k1l> mobile3_: so did you check the paths pydio wants the php to be in?
[10:42] <mobile3_> k1l: how to check where pydio want php to be in ?
[10:44] <k1l> mobile3_: check with pydio where that is. the ubuntu system got the php-cli like the dpgl -l showed
[10:44] <k1l> *dpkg
[10:44] <Unhammer> anyone know how to set the screen blanking timeout in the lightdm greeter?
[10:44] <soee> can i use wget with IP address ? so specify ip from where the file shoudl be downloaded ?
[10:45] <k1l> soee: yes
[10:45] <mobile3_> k1l: I don't know where in pydio it is... can you help me in that
[10:45] <Ben64> soee: check the wget man page, search for "IP address"
[10:47] <k1l> mobile3_: i dont know pydio
[10:49] <shibly> mobile3_, Hi,
[10:49] <mobile3_> help me
[10:49] <shibly> mobile3_, Is your problem solved?
[10:50] <mobile3_> no
[10:50] <shibly> What did you try so far ?
[10:50] <k1l> mobile3_: did you try to ask the pydio specialists where to make pydio working?
[10:51] <mobile3_> shibly, php cli is installed but still the same warning is showing
[10:51] <shibly> mobile3_, What warning?
[10:51] <mobile3_> k1l: no
[10:51] <mobile3_> shibly, Php command line not detected
[10:52] <k1l> mobile3_: looking at that pydio forums thread where is shown that pydio is the issue i would talk to the pydio guys about that. i dont know where and what to change since i dont use pydio
[10:53] <Hippo> Anyone update Chrome recently? http://superuser.com/questions/926007/google-chrome-on-ubuntu-shows-huge-tabs
[10:53] <k1l> Hippo: press controll and "-"
[10:53] <shibly> mobile3_, sudo aptitude install php5 php5-cli php-pear
[10:53] <mobile3_> k1l: they are very slow in response... they took 3, 4 days to reply
[10:55] <Hippo> k1l, nope, that only changes page zoom. My entire chrome is HUGE
[10:55] <Hippo> lol
[10:55] <shibly> mobile3_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268276&s=c1f78ce7ceec89c5f15d71e31dc141d9
[10:55] <pkircher>  September 30th, 2006
[10:55] <shibly> mobile3_, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12157163/run-php-file-via-command-line-on-an-ubuntu-linux-server
[10:56] <pkircher> before posting something at least validate the age of the post
[10:56] <shibly> mobile3_, Did you install aptitude and aptitude update ?
[10:56] <pkircher> you dont need aptitude for that
[10:56] <pkircher> its a different problem
[10:56] <pkircher> php-cli is installed
[10:56] <pkircher> yet there is something how working
[10:57] <jpds> shibly: aptitude was deprecated a long time ago.
[10:57] <pkircher> so please stop repeating your selp shibly
[10:57] <pkircher> if you want to help do it with Knowledge
[10:57] <pkircher> not with wild guessing
[10:57] <Ben64> its a problem with pydio, whatever that is
[10:57] <Ben64> it doesn't know where to find php
[10:57] <pkircher> path vars i suppose
[10:58] <pkircher> or some internal discovery of that app
[10:58] <mobile3_>  whereis php php: /usr/bin/php /usr/share/php /usr/share/man/man1/php.1.gz
[10:58] <shibly> mobile3_, Did you try "php filename" ?
[10:59] <mobile3_> which file name ?
[10:59] <pkircher> Oo indians or why are you guys that stubborn ?
[10:59] <pkircher> its a different problem
[10:59] <shibly> mobile3_, Or did you try to "php" then command line functions?
[10:59] <pkircher> as ben pointed it out
[11:01] <Hippo> moved to chromium instead
[11:02] <nPranav> adsc: TJ-  my dd seems to be older version, it is not taking oflag parameter. i am trying with conv=fsync
[11:03] <shibly> mobile3_: Is the problem solved?
[11:03] <mobile3_> no
[11:03] <pkircher> and it will not be solved with apt nor apitude
[11:03] <pkircher> the problem is in the software he trys to use
[11:03] <pkircher> but you jerks wont listen
[11:03] <pkircher> rather be stubborn
[11:03] <k1l> mobile3_: please: ask the pydio guys. php is installed on your ubuntu so its not ubuntus fault. please ask them what you need to setup in pydio
[11:04] <TJ-> mobile3_: Doesn't pydio run on top of a web-server, in which case that server's php module needs to be loaded and configured?
[11:04] <pkircher> i get it .. - done with my rant
[11:04] <nPranav> do i need to create multiple images
[11:04] <cfhowlett> pkircher attitude, man.  attitude
[11:04] <shibly> mobile3_: How did you run php on terminal ?
[11:04] <pkircher> cfhowlett: those indians get me all the time .. i try to keep my calm
[11:04] <pkircher> but i dont get that “behavior”
[11:04] <sveta> pkircher: whose problem are you referring to?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> pkircher, wait, so we're doing racism  now?  stupid. and a violation of channel rules.   cease immediately
[11:05] <mobile3_> shibly, I didn't run php on terminal
[11:05] <pkircher> meh .. allright .. i get it ..
[11:06] <shibly> mobile3_: So what's the problem? Re-phrase the question
[11:06] <TJ-> mobile3_: what does the pydio dianostic tool report when you first request it from the web server ?
[11:07] <mobile3_> shibly, see here...  http://167.160.171.68/nhcefiles.com/web/
[11:08] <TJ-> mobile3_: That requires editing the web-server's PHP configuration
[11:09] <mobile3_> TJ- , how ?
[11:11] <TJ-> mobile3_: That's something you'll get from the pydio documentation, or support channels, not an Ubuntu issue
[11:15] <dyvmn> hi, i just got my pc with ubuntu crashed
[11:15] <dyvmn> anyone can help me to figure out what the problem is?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> !details | dyvmn ,
[11:16] <dyvmn> ye
[11:16] <dyvmn> http://pastebin.com/KShMvr2U
[11:17] <dyvmn> i got python script that was running about 18 hours and writing alot in stdout
[11:17] <dyvmn> maybe memory error?
[11:19] <mobile3_> I used direct ubuntu installation and it worked... https://pyd.io/download/
[11:19] <Rene_x> Question: I have messed up my desktop icons somehow by copying the icon on the desktop and filling in new startup commands, now some icons attempt to run extra programs that are not in the desktop icon command, where do i find the place where the text/config version of the icon is saved to correct this ?
[11:21] <TJ-> mobile3_: That doesn't look to be an Ubuntu server; apache 2.29 isn't in Precise  nor Trusty and the server reports it is running on "Unix" not "Ubuntu" in its servername
[11:22] <TJ-> mobile3_: typo, 2.29 should have been 2.2.29
[11:22] <mobile3_> TJ- , from where you got that information ?
[11:23] <TJ-> mobile3_: the server!
[11:23] <mobile3_> how ?
[11:23] <TJ-> mobile3_: "<address>Apache/2.2.29 (Unix) Server at 167.160.171.68 Port 80</address>"
[11:23] <mobile3_> where should I execute this command ?
[11:24] <TJ-> mobile3_: http://167.160.171.68/nhcefiles.com/web/thisfiledoesntexist
[11:25] <mobile3_> I don;t know that but I installed Ubuntu 14..04 x86 minimal
[11:25] <mikubuntu> ok, i decided to try to proceed with a side by side with xp installation of lubuntu 1204 on hp mini 1000 netbook, even tho i know i will have the unresolved issues of no wired nor wireless connections for the time being. wonder if someone could help me through the partitioning process. .. http://imagebin.ca/v/24kSCcb5lorZ .. http://imagebin.ca/v/24kSZ6L3WzWr .. http://imagebin.ca/v/24kT2lIqF9Cc
[11:26] <TJ-> mobile3_: Trusty version is 2.4.7
[11:26] <TJ-> !info apche2 trusty
[11:26] <mobile3_> how to install that ?
[11:26] <TJ-> !info apache2 trusty
[11:26] <TJ-> !info apache2 precise
[11:26] <mobile3_> how to install that ?
[11:27] <TJ-> mobile3_: through the package-manager (apt-get) like everything else
[11:27] <mobile3_> give me the full command
[11:27] <mikubuntu> i want to make sure i don't mess up the xp space because for now its the only os that will give me internet connectivity
[11:27] <TJ-> mobile3_: do you know how the basics of Debian/Ubuntu package management work?
[11:27] <TJ-> mikubuntu: !!! how are you getting on?
[11:28] <mobile3_> no
[11:28] <mikubuntu> TJ-: just saw you here! you weren't around yesterday that i could see :P
[11:29] <Rene_x> Q: Is there any other place where the desktop-short cut info is saved other then the *.desktop file ? I don't get it how multiple applications are being attempted to start , that I can not find back anywhere.
[11:29] <TJ-> mobile3_: As it's a server you need to use command-line tool "apt-get". See this page for details of how package management works: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[11:30] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I looked out for you but didn't see you 'alive' so wandered off again :)
[11:30] <mikubuntu> lots of people helped, but could still never determine why lubuntu (nor ub nor xub) would recognise even a wired connection, even tho when the box is running on xp, it has both wired and wireless connectivity
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:31] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Really? So you got it alongside the other PC with a power extension, or are you using a looooong Ethernet cable? :)
[11:31] <TJ-> mikubuntu: (looking at your images now)
[11:31] <mikubuntu> TJ-: today i've just decided to try to proceed with a side by side of lub 1204, preserving xp until i can dump it off completely
[11:33] <mikubuntu> TJ-: no, i'm chatting on my laptop -- the target machine is the hp mini 1000 that someone gave to my sis, but i'm going to have to give it back to her as she is leaving town in few days :(
[11:33] <TJ-> mikubuntu: So, you have XP working from a single partition (sda1, 16GB), is that correct?
[11:33] <TJ-> mikubuntu: remind how large the hard disk on it is
[11:34] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i think, but i'm not literate enough to know that so i wanted some guidance
[11:35] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Those images are showing an installation on a 16GB SanDisk SSD, is that inside the notebook?
[11:35] <mobile3_> TJ-: when I switched to Apache2 , nothing is working... see the doesnotexst page again
[11:36] <mikubuntu> TJ-: it must be, my installation usb is not sandisk -- should i run a term query?
[11:36] <TJ-> mobile3_: Remember you'll need to remove the manual installation of Apache2 that you must have done/had done for you, previously, otherwise it and the Ubuntu packages will conflict.
[11:37] <TJ-> mikubuntu: well that image shows "ATA SanDisk pSSD 16G" - the ATA suggests its on an ATA interface, not USB
[11:37] <mikubuntu> TJ-: so i don't really understand where xp is, and whats free -- but it is asking me to create a root partition
[11:37] <mobile3_> TJ-: Apache 2 means  2.4.12 ...
[11:38] <TJ-> mobile3_: apache2 just means *any* version of apache version 2.x, as opposed to the apache version 1.x
[11:38] <mikubuntu> TJ-: so does that sound about right for a 'netbook' ?? can we just split the space evenly between xp and lubuntu?
[11:39] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'm not sure XP can live in much less, not if it is going to have applications installed into its partition.
[11:40] <mikubuntu> TJ-: don't know if you remembered this other little detail regarding partitions on the hp mini -- https://roomforcreativity.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/installing-ubuntu-12-04-on-hp-mini-210-1000/
[11:40] <mobile3_> TJ- :I removed  2.2.29 and installed 2.4.12 , but it is not showing on that doesnot exist page
[11:40] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Right now you'd have to shrink that existing 16GB sda1 partition using that gparted resizing option to create space for Linux... that'd need a minimum of 6GB and that's going to constrain what can be installed/put on later
[11:41] <TJ-> mobile3_: let me check
[11:41] <Ben64> mobile3_: where did you get 2.2.29?
[11:41] <Rene_x> Q: Is the *.desktop file in the desktop folder, the only place where Ubuntu saves the info for a short cut ? And if this file is edited it should do precisely what is in there ?
[11:41] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i would like nothing less than to strangle xp in a bathtub, and let the worms eat it, but i don't want to give my sister a box with no connectivity
[11:41] <mobile3_> Ben64: from webuzo apps
[11:42] <Ben64> mobile3_: no idea what that is. you should pretty much only install stuff from the software center
[11:42] <pengemis> mobile3_, help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:42] <Ben64> mikubuntu: xp isn't supported. don't use it
[11:42] <IceBot3000> Windows XP doesn't get security patches now, might want to upgrade
[11:42] <mobile3_> Ben64: Webuzo is VPS contol panel
[11:43] <mikubuntu> TJ-: my sis is not computer savvy (less than me actually!) nor even curious, so she won't be adding software, as a rule
[11:43] <Ben64> mobile3_: that's not good
[11:43] <TJ-> mobile3_:  "Server: Apache/2.4.12 (Unix) OpenSSL/1.0.1k PHP/5.5.24"
[11:43] <mobile3_> TJ-: from where ?
[11:44] <mobile3_> Ben64: why not good ?
[11:44] <TJ-> mobile3_: In the Response Header the server sends back, I required it manually using Telnet
[11:44] <Ben64> a vps control panel shouldn't be installing things
[11:44] <Rene_x> nvm i see the other prog also starting from console ... i guess i messed up my wine bottle, nothing to do with the short cut thanks all o/
[11:45] <mobile3_> Ben64: is that wrong? why ?
[11:45] <mikubuntu> Ben64: no choice for now -- no connectivity (wired or wireless) in lubuntu
[11:45] <mobile3_> TJ-:Nice
[11:45] <Ben64> mikubuntu: i don't see how that requires you to use an unsupported windows version
[11:46] <TJ-> mikubuntu: I'm not sure what to suggest. My gut feelign is to get (L)ubuntu on it and working and don't worry about trying to dual-boot, but it's your call. As I said the other day you really *need* the mini to be sitting next to your active PC so you aren't shuttling backwards and forwards between rooms to run commands which might be needed to solve the issues it has.
[11:46] <TJ-> mikubuntu: If you're using the Lubuntu Live "Try..." option we can attempt some diagnosis as to why the wired connection isn't operating
[11:47] <TJ-> mikubuntu: that is usually pretty obvious stuff especially as we already know that XP can immediately bring up wired and wireless connections on the same hardware - tells us the cables, router, etc., are all good
[11:47] <mikubuntu> TJ-: TJ- so if lubuntu was side by side with xp, couldn't i fix lubuntu, and then erase xp?
[11:48] <mobile3_> okay, I am going...
[11:48] <R13ose> How do I increase my mic voice?  I feel this is super low and people can't hear others most of the time.
[11:49] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i know, and if you think you know how to diagnose, that would be great -- but nobody else has seemed to know
 go to sound settings , then input tab , make sure you select the right input and adjust the volume
 i normaly enter from the unity bar in the pulldown menu where also rhytembox is located top right
[11:52] <mikubuntu> TJ-: have to run outside for just a moment, be back in 5-7 mins and i'll let you make the call -- either full lubuntu install, or side by side with xp
[11:53] <sneg> russian people?
[11:54] <cfhowlett> !ru | sneak
[11:54] <cfhowlett> sneg ^^^
[11:54] <Rene_x> :D
[11:54] <MrDoctor> Has anyone had the issue of [x] signs in the titlebars of windows in ubuntu 14.04 using the uity DE?
[11:54] <MrDoctor> unity*
[11:54] <R13ose> Rene_x: When I do that, and use Skype the mic volume goes down on its own and I can't put this back at 100%.
[11:55] <Svetlana> disable skype's auto adjust feature
 you might need to save your alsa sound settings and setting the mic volume from the alsa mixer
[11:55] <Svetlana> sneak: да, заходите на русский канал
[11:56] <Svetlana> er, ignore that, he quit
[11:56] <R13ose> Rene_x: how?
do: alsamixer in a console
let me check what the save command was again
[11:57] <nPranav> k1l: asds TJ-  Thanks a lot guys for ideas
[11:57] <nPranav> dd command worked finally based on the ideas provided though it was older version.. and my device is rebooting :)
[11:57] <Rene_x> <R13ose>: sudo alsactl store
[11:58] <Rene_x> will save the settings
[11:59] <R13ose> Rene_x: okay but I have to change the settings right?
[11:59] <Rene_x> <R13ose> if the mic boost goes away after boot then yes
[11:59] <Rene_x> <R13ose> if skype it self is doing it then i dont know
[11:59] <Rene_x> as i dont use skype
[11:59] <R13ose> Rene_x: this command didn't do anything for me.
[12:00] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i just thought of something -- is it possible to use open ssh to let you access the machine THRU xp?
[12:00] <Rene_x> <R13ose> you have no alsamixer ?
[12:00] <TJ-> nPranav: great to hear ... is it a Raspberry Pi model A ?
[12:00] <TJ-> mikubuntu: haha not without going through a lot of hoops installing cygwin
[12:00] <R13ose> Rene_x: I mean I can tell if anything happened.  I have alsamixer
[12:01] <Rene_x> ah
[12:01] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok, just trying to figure out how to give you a birds eye view into the box :(
[12:02] <R13ose> Rene_x: can't
[12:02] <TJ-> mikubuntu: You have the Lubuntu 14.04 Live installer, is that correct?
[12:02] <PwnX> Hello everyone, someone here that can help me with Conky ?
[12:02] <Rene_x> <R13ose> in alsamixer when you press F4 you get input devices, i would look there if you can boost anything
[12:02] <Ben64> mikubuntu: xp is not a sane option
[12:02] <TJ-> mikubuntu: and is it also correct that installer causes the black screen when it starts, or, does that display correctly?
[12:02] <mikubuntu> TJ-: yes, and i have gparted open as you saw in images, just don't know where to proceed
[12:03] <TJ-> Ben64: XP is the *only* option right now!
[12:03] <Ben64> TJ-: xp is not an option. it is not supported
[12:03] <TJ-> mikubuntu: OK... that's progress I think since the other day we were trying to fix the black screen on 14.04 issue!
[12:03] <mikubuntu> TJ-: lub 1404 went to black screen -- lub 12.04 displays fine
[12:03] <TJ-> Ben64: Who cares? it's installed on the device and currently is the only OS that can operate the device's network interfaces!
[12:04] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Ahhhh... so it's 12.04... right... thought you'd fixed that glitch yourself :)
[12:04] <mikubuntu> TJ-: i gave up on 1404 for that reason
[12:04] <Ben64> when it stops working when the multitude of vulnerabilites get exploited
[12:04] <citroniks> hi to all , i want to control  vlc media player through terminals how can i do please help me
[12:04] <PwnX> My OS is Ubuntu Mate 1.8.2 and i use ppa teejee2008 to install conky but after i have apply a widget the weather info dont shows..
[12:04] <citroniks> thanks
[12:04] <TJ-> Ben64: The device isn't working at all right now, that's the problem!
[12:04] <Ben64> xp isn't any better
[12:05] <Ben64> if windows is desired, 7+
[12:05] <TJ-> mikubuntu: OK, using 12.04 and the Live "Try..." option you can install openssh-server and give me direct access if you want to do that
[12:05] <Rene_x> <R13ose> i think even if you just use the GUI/sound controls and later give a: sudo alsactl store it should store the settings you just setted, else i dont know what to do sorry
[12:06] <Rene_x> sudo alsactl store
[12:06] <mikubuntu> TJ-: its possible that if i resolved the black screen issue on 1404 we might find that theres no connectivity problem there, but ... who knows
[12:06] <Guest51143> hey can someone help me installing wifi drivers? I've found a tutorial but I can't do install it
[12:06] <Guest51143> hey can someone help me installing wifi drivers? I've found a tutorial but I can't do install it
[12:07] <PwnX> Any one here that can help me with conky-manager ?
 as in the gui sound controlls it should be easy to set a mic to have boost on
[12:07] <agent_white> !ask | PwnX
[12:07] <mikubuntu> TJ-: no, i can't give you open ssh using lub because it won't work even on an eth0 wire :(
[12:07] <TJ-> Ben64: Please! We're (trying) to install an Ubuntu version but the device is causing severe hardware issues; XP is the default installed OS and currently the only one that will work correctly, so it is the only option for fixing up that PC right now.
[12:07] <R13ose> Rene_x: I found a setting in Skype that made the mic settings check based on Skype.
[12:07] <agent_white> !ask | Guest51143
[12:07] <Ben64> TJ-: xp has nothing to do with getting ubuntu to work
[12:07] <Rene_x> R13ose> yeh maybe it's just a skype thingy
[12:07] <TJ-> mikubuntu: OK... so how about we focus on seeing if we can get that working?
[12:08] <R13ose> Rene_x: should I have this at unamplified position or 100%?
[12:08] <TJ-> Ben64: Do you want to take over this issue? You seem to be argumentative for no productive reason
[12:08] <astroboy> citroniks, never try, but you can type "vlc --help" in terminal
[12:08] <Ben64> TJ-: you go for it, i'm just saying windows xp is NOT an option
[12:08] <Rene_x> R13ose , i would test around abit normaly soundcard mic amplifiers are very crappy, and start crackling
[12:08] <TJ-> Ben64: That's for mikubuntu to decide
[12:08] <Ben64> TJ-: and you continue to say its super cool to run an outdated unsupported os
[12:09] <Guest51143> What? I've asked a question! I can't install wifi drivers! Can someone help me?
[12:09] <Rene_x> R13ose so set it as low as possible while you have settisfing sound input
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !patience | guest51143,
[12:10] <mikubuntu> TJ-: lol
[12:11] <mikubuntu> Ben64: this is day 6 of this saga -- i need to get resolution any way i can. my disabled sister is wanting her box back.
[12:11] <Rene_x> R13ose not sure ofcause what skype is doing, maybe it's just doing a digital signal boost, and you might need to tweak the ubuntu mic input settings too to get the best results
[12:12] <Ben64> mikubuntu: ok so focus on getting ubuntu working then
[12:12] <TJ-> Exactly what we *are* doing!
[12:12] <astroboy> i have a question, if i have some files in folder, the files is *.mp4 , can i change the extension to *.m4v using terminal? i mean dont need to change one by one...
[12:12] <R13ose> Rene_x: I might have figured this out, and will try this tonight but if this fails I will be back here for more advice.  Thanks.
[12:12] <Rene_x> R13ose best is if possible not to boost the mic too much in ubuntu settings, unless you have an extreemly expensive sound crad for better results
[12:13] <Rene_x> no boost = better sound, the more boost the more crackling
[12:13] <agent_white> astroboy: You just want to change the file name? Or convert the file from mp4 to m4v?
[12:13] <agent_white> astroboy: There is a big difference.
[12:14] <astroboy> agent_white, just want to change file name
[12:14] <R13ose> Rene_x: none boost seems so low.
[12:14] <cfhowlett> astroboy, that ain't the way.  to transcode, use avconv; avconv -i *.mp4 *.m4v
[12:15] <agent_white> astroboy:
[12:16] <agent_white> astroboy: What cfhowlett said.  Changing the extension does not change the file's encoding.  ie -- changing a music file's name from "foo.wav" to "foo.mp3" does not change it from a wav file to an mp3 file.
[12:16] <astroboy> cfhowlett, how about if my files is formatted in mp4, but the files now have no extension at the end.
[12:16] <agent_white> Using avconv or ffmpeg would be best.
[12:16] <agent_white> astroboy: Are you sure they are mp3 files?
[12:17] <R13ose> Rene_x: thanks again, I have to go
[12:17] <Rene_x> <R13ose> yeh it's a question of tweaking,boost enouigh to make stuff audiable, but not too much to avoid cracking sounds, and i gues you have to tweak both alsa & skype, im asuming skype is just digitaly trying to boost the incoming signal
[12:17] <agent_white> You _could_ have a mp3 file named "foo.jpg" -- file extensions only help to identify the file quickly, not to determine its type.
[12:17] <Rene_x> np laters
[12:17] <astroboy> foe example, the files now named "abc", awant to change it into something like "abc.mp4", and i have many files that need to change
[12:18] <cfhowlett> astroboy,  do this: file FILENAMEHERE and read the properties.  IF the file is actually .mp4 format, then adding the suffix would be permissible.
[12:19] <agent_white> ^
[12:21] <umbra_> hello?
[12:22] <umbra_> now can someone please help me with the wifi drivers?
[12:22] <agent_white> astroboy: Are you sure that EACH AND EVERY file in that directory is an mp3?
[12:23] <agent_white> s/mp3/mp4/
[12:23] <astroboy> checked the properties, these all mp4, and now they all have *.0 extension , i only want to change it into *.mp4
[12:23] <asdfffdsa> anyone know i cant use bashes !! with alias? alias kk='!! | (grep -o match) | xargs sublime'   gives me, !! command not found
[12:23] <agent_white> !ask | umbra_
[12:23] <astroboy> i sure these all mp4
[12:24] <umbra_> Again with that?! Can someone please help me? I'm trying to install but if I haven't been successful then I need help like troubleshooting?
[12:24] <Fuchs> astroboy: yes, this is trivial. You can use mmv if you want a tool, but this is also feasible with just a for loop or find
[12:24] <somsip> asdfffdsa: History expansion is done before alias expansion, so you'll have to use the history built-in to perform the expansion yourself http://askubuntu.com/questions/629846/use-the-bang-commands-e-g-of-bash-in-scripts-and-aliases
[12:25] <asdfffdsa> somsip: thx a bunch
[12:25] <somsip> asdfffdsa: np
[12:25] <umbra_> agent_white: can you help me install wifi drivers in ubuntu?
[12:25] <agent_white> !ask | umbra_
[12:25] <agent_white> Odd.
[12:25] <umbra_> agent_white: I just asked...
[12:25] <k1l> umbra_: what wifi card is it? does it show in "lspci"?
[12:26] <umbra_> It's a qualcomm atheros qca9565 / ar9565 wireless net... you get the picture
[12:26] <umbra_> k1l: It's a qualcomm atheros qca9565 / ar9565 wireless net... you get the picture
[12:27] <umbra_> k1l: I have a folder that i've download called backports 4.1-rc1-1
[12:27] <umbra_> k1l:  but the tutorial is using a driver selector script that isnt in this folder
[12:28] <k1l> umbra_: doesnt that work with ubuntu ootb? is it hardware blocked or what? is the kernel modul loaded?
[12:28] <k1l> umbra_: need to leave for lunch
[12:28] <saladin442> hello folks. i hae a huawei broadband modem  but when i plugg in to ubuntu, it doesnt detect. how to force ubuntu to do  modswich to the huawei modem? and how can i know what's is the version for the huawei modem? (e.g: huawei e150).
[12:29] <umbra_> k1l: I have no idea.. When I try to enable the wifi it just won't enable
[12:32] <cfhowlett> saladinn442, suggest you search out ubuntu + linux + huawei
[12:32] <umbra_> Hello? So no one knows how to solve the wifi drivers installation problem?
[12:33] <Zaitzev> Hi, I have an NTFS drive on the verge of complete failure, currently plugged in via USB on my Ubuntu laptop. When I try copying files, the drive disconnects. Is there a better, more reliable way to rescue my data?
[12:33] <Fuchs> Zaitzev: well, as a first step I'd just dd the whole partition to another drive
[12:33] <agent_white> umbra_: We need more than "it just doesn't work" to help you.
[12:34] <Fuchs> as dd doesn't care about filesystems, this should hopefully work. Then at least you can have multiple attempts at rescuing it without destroying it any further
[12:34] <Zaitzev> Fuchs: Would you care to elaborate? I have never used dd
[12:34] <agent_white> umbra_: Things like... what do you mean it doesn't work? how are you enabling it? What do you expect to happen? What's the info on your hotspot you connect to? Can you connect anywhere else or is this the first time you have ever done this before?
[12:34] <agent_white> etc.
[12:34] <Zaitzev> Fuchs: You may pm me with details if you want, easier to keep track of there
[12:35] <Fuchs> Zaitzev: dd if=/dev/foo1 of=/somewhere/where/you/have/plenty/of/space.backup    (you can also pump it through a compression such as gzip, just will take longer and eat CPU)    replace foo1 with your actual partition
[12:35] <Fuchs> Zaitzev: I don't do pm support for various reasons, nope
[12:35] <Zaitzev> that's alright, I'll just keep that one line copied =)
[12:35] <Fuchs> Zaitzev: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging#Backup_with_dd
[12:35] <Fuchs> that is a bit more verbose and adds compression
[12:36] <Fuchs> Zaitzev: unmount the partition first
[12:36] <Zaitzev> alright
[12:36] <Fuchs> then launch that, so you have a 1:1 copy of the filesystem  (including errors, but nevermind).   After that, various rescue attempts can be made, because at least you still have an image if it breaks some more
[12:36] <Fuchs> an image you could, worst case, even feed to professional data rescue services
[12:37] <mcphail> Easier if you don't compress: makes it slightly simpler to mount the image later
[12:37] <Fuchs> the thing after of= can either be a device  (careful with that) or a file
[12:37] <Zaitzev> The files aren't important enough to warrant expensive professional services
[12:37] <astroboy> Fuchs, agent_white, cfhowlett, thankyou guys.. solved now using 'mmv' .. :))
[12:37] <Zaitzev> But important enough that I'll try what I can to recover :)
[12:37] <agent_white> astroboy: Good to hear :) Look into bash scripts in the future for an alternative as well.
[12:38] <Fuchs> astroboy: you're welcome :)
[12:38] <TJ-> Zaitzev: Fuchs For an actively dying drive that is doing I/O disconnects, use 'ddrescue' not 'dd' to grab a recovery image
[12:38] <agent_white> astroboy: `for file in *.0; do  ...   ` :)
[12:38] <Fuchs> TJ-: from what I gathered it is the file system that breaks, not the actual hardware. If it is the hardware: yes.
[12:38] <agent_white> TJ-: LANGUAGE
[12:38] <agent_white> TJ-: ... Just kidding. ;P
[12:39] <Fuchs> agent_white: that is a very bad idea with just a for loop,
[12:39] <Fuchs> this will break on various characters, mostly whitespaces though
[12:39] <TJ-> Fuchs: " When I try copying files, the drive disconnects." ... I think that's a dying drive
[12:39] <agent_white> Fuchs: If used correctly, it's not a bad idea at all :)
[12:39] <Zaitzev> TJ-: ddrescue huh?
[12:39] <astroboy> agent_white, or >> mmv '*.mp4' '#1.m4v'   :)
[12:40] <Fuchs> agent_white: yes, and that example is far from "used correctly", thus the friendly warning from my side, before anything breaks
[12:40] <saladin442> my caps lock suddently turning on.  then i turned it off but then sometimes it is turned on for unknown reason. I don't press it, that's sure!
[12:40] <saladin442> any idea?
[12:40] <agent_white> Fuchs: The example I provided was just to inform him that he could use bash scripting directly in his terminal. Nothing more.
[12:40] <agent_white> astroboy: Good to hear it worked for you! :)
[12:40] <Fuchs> saladin442: any virtualisation software running, by chance?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> astroboy, happy2help!
[12:41] <TJ-> Zaitzev: see https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html
[12:41] <agent_white> Fuchs: Understood though. I won't recommend bash scripts to those who know nothing of it!
[12:42] <umbra_purus> Question: why can't I install the wifi drivers? Error message shows this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11689934/
[12:44] <umbra_purus> agent_white: Question: why can't I install the wifi drivers? Error message shows this http://paste.ubuntu.com/11689934/
[12:45] <saladin442> Fuchs: nope...
[12:46] <Fuchs> saladin442: check the settings of your desktop environment, aside from that: shouldn't happen indeed
[12:46] <agent_white> umbra_purus: Unfortunately,that isn't helpful... we don't know what/where/why you installed that package you are trying to build, only that you can't build it. For starters, maybe a pastebin of the output of `lspci -v` would be good.
[12:46] <agent_white> umbra_purus: Lets start from the beginning and figure out the details of your wifi card as your computer knows it.
[12:47] <agent_white> umbra_purus: At the very top of that pastebin, add in the output of `uname -a` so we know what kernel you are currently running.
[12:47] <saladin442> Fuchs: what do you mean by my desktop environment? how to check it's setting?
[12:48] <Zaitzev> TJ-: ddrescue didn't work, it started but stopped as the disk just disconnected and reconnected
[12:48] <Guest26529> I want to write a VoIP program for learning purpose
[12:48] <Guest26529> how to begin
[12:48] <agent_white> Guest26529: #learnprogramming
[12:48] <agent_white> !next
[12:48] <Fuchs> saladin442: e.g. Unity or KDE or Gnome, some of them have settings to enable / disable various keyboard features on login
[12:48] <Guest26529> I know socket programming
[12:49] <Guest26529> and a little bit of open ssl also
[12:49] <agent_white> Guest26529: Join the channel #learnprogramming.
[12:49] <agent_white> Guest26529: Asking programming questions here is offtopic.
[12:50] <Trudko> hi guys if I made alias for a command with same name as existing command , so I overwrote it, how can I call the old one?
[12:50] <saladin442> Fuchs: i am using gnome ubuntu 15.04
[12:50] <Zaitzev> and dd fails too -.- I/O error. Looks like it's a dead drive then huh?
[12:50] <agent_white> Tuna-Fish: Prefix the command with a backslash,.
[12:51] <Fuchs> saladin442: then check your gnome settings whether they have something like I mentioned :)
[12:51] <agent_white> Trudko: Prefix the command with a backslash,.
[12:51] <agent_white> Woops! Sorrry Tuna-Fish :P
[12:51] <Tuna-Fish> np
[12:51] <TJ-> Zaitzev: But with ddrescue you can restart it where it left off. You'll need to read the documentation but its pretty straightforward
[12:51] <agent_white> Trudko: As in, if you aliased "ls", use "\ls" to call the original that you shadowed.
[12:51] <Guest26529> Thanx for yoor kind help agent_white. I am now talking to myself there  #learproramming :)
[12:51] <Guest26529> byr
[12:51] <Guest26529> bye*
[12:51] <pbx> my notification style (e.g. new mail) just changed. where do i set it?
[12:51] <agent_white> Guest26529: I have yet to see you here.
[12:52] <saladin442> Fuchs: meaning to check under keyboard option?
[12:52] <TJ-> Zaitzev: although you'll probably get fed up reconnect the drive constantly. Myself, I'd connect the drive directly to the PC using SATA or IDE, because most of the incidents of your description I see are caused by a failing USB<>disk controller, not the disk itself
[12:53] <Zaitzev> TJ-: The drive used to be connected to a SATA port (It was the datadrive on my home PC), I just put it in the USB case to try it on the laptop
[12:54] <TJ-> Zaitzev: Ahhh, so it had already shown failure symptoms?
[12:54] <Zaitzev> Yeah, a couple of days ago it started. I then disconnected it to put it in the USB case I got today
[12:55] <Zaitzev> TJ-: Can I use dd/ddrescue to try and save just a specific directory instead of the entire drive?
[12:56] <Zaitzev> TJ-: The drive is 500GB and almost full, but I just really "need" to save about 10-12 GB of it
[12:56] <TJ-> Zaitzev: No. dd's work on a block, not file-system, level. If the drive is resetting itself something very serious has happened to it
[12:56] <TJ-> Zaitzev: This is why backups of important data are essential
[12:58] <Zaitzev> I keep the most important in the cloud, but I had this drive as a backup drive at one point, and had kind of forgotten about those files that I want to save until now. My luck. :p
[12:59] <seijirou> Hello.  I've got emulex HBAs on ubuntu 14.04 and I'm wondering if it's possible to configure them in target mode and use SCST or LIO or something else to expose a target.  I've found some info on qlogic but almost nothing on emulex.  I believe the driver shipped with 14.04 is lpfc but I can't find any information on lpfc configurables to switch from initiatior to target.
[13:01] <bstone> goto
[13:02] <TJ-> seijirou: Probably better to ask that in #ubuntu-server as well
[13:02] <AndroUser> 壹
[13:02] <bstone> where is korean channel
[13:02] <JosephSilber-m> How can I upgrade curl to 3.42? I followed this guide: http://pavelpolyakov.com/2014/11/17/updating-php-curl-on-ubuntu/
[13:02] <JosephSilber-m> To no avail.
[13:02] <bstone> plz
[13:02] <JosephSilber-m> 7.42*
[13:02] <bstone> 한국채널 접속하라~
[13:02] <seijirou> TJ-: Okay, thank you
[13:03] <bstone> 한국대화방은 어디에 있을깡?
[13:04] <Myrtti> !korean | bstone
[13:04] <Myrtti> time to "bookmark" it to your irc client?
[13:05] <AndroUser> 없다
[13:08] <astroboy> one more question guys, why my ubuntu always reset screen brightness to the mx value after reboot, so i need manually to set the brighness every time after reboot. any solution??
[13:09] <astroboy> one more question guys, why my ubuntu always reset screen brightness to the max value after reboot, so i need manually to set the brightness every time after reboot. any solution??
[13:10] <pbx> astroboy, you could install and use xbacklight to set it...
[13:10] <pbx> astroboy, i have a couple terminal aliases for setting the backlight to specific levels i like. ideally it would be more automatic (sensing AC power for example) but oh well
[13:11] <Pazooza> I have that issue too, astroboy.
[13:13] <astroboy> pbx, thx, but can i just configure a specific file to set the brightness to certain value on reboot?
[13:15] <pbx> astroboy, you'd add something like `xbacklight -set 100` to one of the startup scripts. don't know the 'right' place for it though. if you're the  only user you could do it in e.g. .bashrc
[13:16] <pbx> astroboy, but no, there's not any setting waiting to be tweaked that i know of
[13:17] <lnb> alt+F# doesnt change desktop anymore. 14.04. anyway to get this back?
[13:17] <lnb> should have wrote doesnt switch desktop
[13:18] <xangua> lnb:  it's Control+Alt+Number
[13:18] <xangua> Alt+F# doesn't sounds right
[13:18] <astroboy> pbx,  i was ever tweaked specific file to set it into specific value automatically on reboot, but i forget which file it was
[13:19] <pbx> astroboy, if you remember, let us know!
[13:20] <astroboy> yeah..
[13:21] <astroboy> pbx,  for now i'll add xbacklight script to startup
[13:33] <Teligard251> Hi All; where can I set the global PATH?
[13:34] <Teligard251> I need to add a particular directory to my global path variable, but can't seem to track down where the system-wide path is set...
[13:38] <TJ-> Teligard251: "/etc/environment"
[13:45] <umbra_purus> agent_white: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690225/
[13:45] <umbra_purus> sorry for the delay
[13:53] <Sholira> Eya ^^
[13:54] <sudoritz> anyone know where i can disable TLS V1.0
[13:54] <Sholira> I ran into a problem with my dual boot ubuntu laptop, after a software update it's stuck in a login loop, I tried reinstalling ubuntu and many other options from the internet. When I check the .xsession-error it gives this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11678071/
[13:58] <pbx> i think i accidentally replaced the unity notification daemon with the i3 one. short of removing i3 how might i go back?
[14:01] <philip> can someone kindly give a brief explanation on load avaerage
[14:03] <Pici> philip: man uptime has a good explanation that I would likely just end up copy and pasting here.
[14:04] <Pici> philip: if that doesn't help, poke me again and I'll try explaining it further
[14:05] <philip> helo Pici love a clear understanding
[14:12] <hackal> Hello please could you help me change resolution of my external monitor(27" 2560x1440) attached to laptop? My laptop has nvidia card. I have installed all the drivers and I can see in system details that I use nvidia as graphics card. In display settings I am not able to set more than 1920x1080 on my external monitor.
[14:13] <southside> this may interest some folks
[14:13] <southside> ^^^ Job in Scotland - beautiful Clyde coast - remote working possible
[14:13] <southside> http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/90236/rust-open-source-software-engineer-maidsafenet?searchTerm=Rust+developer
[14:15] <htdfjt> Hey everyone, what is this wonderful line I found in dmesg about?   systemd-hostnamed[5817]: Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!
[14:23] <KetoImperator> Hello! There is a issue on both my laptops with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS hanging up randomly. Display is on, sometimes you can move the cursor someone you can't. Did you come accross it?
[14:28] <sudoritz> where can i disable TLS 1.0 but keep TLS1.1 and 1.2
[14:28] <sudoritz> i tried /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf but it didnt hel
[14:29] <ian_mac> is there a recommended way to install Java 8 on Precise?
[14:29]  * astroboy dinner
[14:31] <htdfjt> ian_mac: However Oracle says to
[14:31] <ian_mac> eh
[14:31] <ian_mac> so there's no OpenJDK 8 for Precise?
[14:31] <ian_mac> ok
[14:32] <Denlud> hey ma linuxniggas
[14:32] <Denlud> whats goin on?
[14:33] <htdfjt> ian_mac: Ah, I assumed you were looking for the Oracle one, since usually people asking need the SDK/JDK or whatever that thing is that the open source one doesn't have.  Though... I'm not sure about openjdk 8, I only have a 7
[14:34] <ian_mac> htdfjt: yeah.  I have OpenJDK 7 on our prod boxes now, and am trying to upgrade some software that requires OpenJDK 8 (or at least strongly recommends).  Would rather upgrade Java than upgrade the OS on all the boxes
[14:36] <htdfjt> ian_mac: You can check if someone maintains a ppa for that, or you can grab the deb package from a newer repo.
[14:36] <htdfjt> ian_mac: I'm not sure what the recommended way would be though.
[14:36] <kamil_> hi
[14:37] <Guest9568> anyone know of a good top-like terminal tool for monitoring network usage?
[14:37] <zerowaitstate> iftop
[14:37] <kamil_> i want to install mysql-workbench, but mysql workbench requires mysql-client, and mysql-client requires mysql-client-5.5, but i've installed mysql-client-5.6 from custom repository, because i need 5.6
[14:37] <kamil_> how can i resolve this problem?
[14:38] <Guest9568> nice thanks
[14:38] <zerowaitstate> kamil_: there is a version of mysql-workbench for 5.6 in the custom repo
[14:38] <htdfjt> kamil_: Also install 5.5.
[14:39] <zerowaitstate> kamil_: however, i think it has a spurious dependency on mysql-server
[14:39] <htdfjt> kamil_: Or yes, zerowaitstate's solution is better.
[14:39] <zerowaitstate> kamil_: but i like the workbench from 5.6 better than 5.5
[14:39] <htdfjt> If it's genuinely spurious then he can just force it
[14:39] <kamil_> ok, i'll find workbench for 5.6
[14:40] <kamil_> htdfjt: if i install 5.5, 5.6 will be removed
[14:40] <zerowaitstate> kamil_: the version i'm using from the custom repo is 6.2.5-1ubu1404
[14:41] <zerowaitstate> kamil_: package is mysql-workbench-community
[14:42] <htdfjt> kamil_: eh?  you should be able to install both with the right voodoo being passed as arguments to apt-get
[14:42] <htdfjt> kamil_: or is this something not in the repo?  I still liked zero's solution better though
[14:43] <mcphail> Forcing installs can break the system and shouldn't be supported in this channel, imho
[14:43] <kamil_> sec, i'm adding repo and we'll see
[14:43] <Pici> mcphail: agreed.
[14:47] <kamil_> actually... i've added this repo https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/mysql-5.6 and now mysql-workbench doesn't require mysql-client-5.5
[14:47] <kamil_> and it works ofc
[14:48] <kamil_> thank u :)
[14:50] <leafybasil> Hey all, running 15.05 on an retina MBP, after reading forums I thought hot-plugging for cinema display over thunderbolt was supported now, but it only seems to work if plugged in on bootup, anyone knwo why?
[14:58] <Daedalus-x> hi to all
[15:00] <htdfjt> mcphail: Ah, np, I did support the other solution ^_^
[15:06] <joe42> Does anyone know if Ubuntu will definately go to btrfs, or if they are considering openzfs?  Or something else I haven't mentioned?
[15:09] <lnb> alt+F# doesnt switch desktop anymore with 14.04 anyway to get this back?
[15:10] <umbra_purus> agent_white: are you there?
[15:11] <umbra_purus> agent_white: are you still there?
[15:13] <mcphail> htdfjt: :)
[15:14] <stacks88> when i do nano +136 file.txt to open at line 136 it doesnt seem to work, anyone know why?
[15:15] <mcphail> joe42: I doubt anyone knows for sure, but I'd be _very_ surprised if zfs became the default filesystem
[15:15] <stacks88> it instead opens at the beginning of the file
[15:16] <Sonick> hi all
[15:16] <IceBot3000> ReiserFS is the new default I think
[15:17] <vemacs> WifekillerFS?
[15:18] <umbra_purus_> please can someone please help me install wireless drivers? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690225/
[15:18] <vbexpert> Have you got vBulletin? Want to get a Mod/Product/Style? No problem request one here https://www.criosphinx.net/boards/showthread.php?p=4#post4 and we'll get it from vbulletin.org and attach it!
[15:19] <vbexpert> Have you got vBulletin? Want to get a Mod/Product/Style? No problem request one here https://www.criosphinx.net/boards/showthread.php?p=4#post4 and we'll get it from vbulletin.org and attach it!
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[15:19] <umbra_purus_> please can someone please help me install wireless drivers? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690225/
[15:20] <Guest27983> на русском тут вообще можно получить помощь?)
[15:20] <Pici> umbra_purus_: whats not working? it says there that it is already using a kernel driver
[15:20] <Pici> !ru | Guest27983
[15:21] <umbra_purus_> please can someone please help me install wireless drivers? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690225/
[15:21] <umbra_purus_> please can someone please help me install wireless drivers? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690225/
[15:21] <Pici> umbra_purus_: Please read responses sent to you before repeating.
[15:22] <DarkEra> umbra_purus_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[15:22] <umbra_purus_> Can't read because I'm on a webchat
[15:22] <umbra_purus_> There's no record
[15:22] <Pici> umbra_purus_: whats not working? it says there that it is already using a kernel driver
[15:22] <umbra_purus_> But really can't nobody help me?
[15:23] <umbra_purus_> But I can't enable wifi
[15:23] <Pici> umbra_purus_: how are you trying?
[15:23] <umbra_purus_> When I select enable wifi it won't start
[15:23] <stacks88> whats weird is if i compile nano from source , i can ./nano +136 file.txt and land at line number 136.. but the nano provided by ubuntu, if i do nano +136 file.txt it doesnt work, keeps me at line 1
[15:23] <Sonick> hi)
[15:23] <Pici> stacks88: works for me on 14.04. not that I'd use nano on purpose for anything.
[15:24] <stacks88> lol what is better to use?
[15:25] <umbra_purus_> Through the panel in top right-hand corner
[15:25] <Pici> stacks88: I've seen the light.  I'm now a vim user (although I agree that nano is great for people who don't want to remember shortcuts)
[15:26] <Pici> umbra_purus_: What do you get if you type   ifconfig   in a terminal?
[15:28] <TJ-> stacks "nano +3 /tmp/test.txt" works for 14.04 on amd64 for me
[15:28] <umbra_purus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690762/
[15:28] <umbra_purus_> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690762/
[15:28] <umbra_purus_> this
[15:28] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: is the wireless power (RF kill) switch on
[15:29] <umbra_purus_> TJ: meaning?
[15:29] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: most wireless equipped PCs have a hard switch somewhere on the casing to enable and disable the Radio for the wireless devices
[15:29] <umbra_purus_> nop negative...
[15:29] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: Think of "airplane mode" on a smartphone
[15:30] <umbra_purus_> no switch
[15:30] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: check this command: "rfkill list"
[15:30] <umbra_purus_> I have two wireless lan installed??
[15:31] <umbra_purus_> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690769/
[15:31] <logan___> hi everyone. in the past i've had problems with HDMI with my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650. Someone know if somethings is changed in Ubuntu 15.04? i need to migrate from windows8 to ubuntu but i cannot if my OS freeze every time i plug in a HDMI cable :) thanks
[15:31] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: "acer-wireless: Wireless LAN	Soft blocked: yes"
[15:32] <umbra_purus_> I notice that but why does it have acer?!
[15:32] <Pici> umbra_purus_: fyi: its uneeded to block out the ip address listed on lo, thats (normally) always 127.0.0.1
[15:32] <umbra_purus_> When I installed the drivers the last time it didnt had acer-wireless
[15:32] <TJ-> umbra_purus_:  "sudo rfkill unblock 2"
[15:32] <tq7> hi
[15:33] <umbra_purus_> still blocked. i've runned sudo rfkill unblock 2 but afte r
[15:33] <umbra_purus_> that I've run rfkill list and it's still soft blocked
[15:33] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: OK, that suggests maybe the driver needs to also load some firmware blob into the device to have it work correctly.
[15:34] <umbra_purus_> TJ: so what firmware now?
[15:34] <tq7> which img file do i have to choose from my noobs.zip to kopie it on my sd card?
[15:34] <tq7> copie*
[15:34] <tq7> copy*
[15:36] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: Before we assume that, check the kernel log for clues: "pastebinit <(grep ath9k /var/log/kern.log)"
[15:38] <tq7> test
[15:39] <umbra_purus_> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690793/
[15:41] <umbra_purus_> TJ: you there?
[15:42] <magnnoo> Greetings
[15:42] <billharrison> After a crash, the locale command is giving odd output (and vim and other programs like Typescript compiler are behaving strangely)
[15:43] <billharrison> Why are LANG and LANGUAGE broken and how do I fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690810/
[15:43] <tq7> test
[15:44] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: Yes, running back and forth :)
[15:44] <gpfarina> Guys i have installed ubuntu 15.04 and I need to install all this software
[15:44] <gpfarina> http://pastebin.com/fRWaxzzu
[15:44] <umbra_purus_> TJ: oh :)
[15:44] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: unfortunately that ath9k driver isn't being very informative!
[15:44] <gpfarina> i tried but i had problems and i have to reinstall everything
[15:45] <gpfarina> is there a way to do that?
[15:45] <umbra_purus_> TJ-:  so what now?
[15:45] <delipero> How can i use c++ for sql injection attack?
[15:45] <tq7> hi
[15:46] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: search the web for how to "soft unblock" the atheros 9565
[15:47] <umbra_purus_> TJ-: no solution?
[15:47] <mcphail> delipero: why do you think that would be an Ubuntu support question? Please read the /topic
[15:48] <delipero> mcpail i have asked on other channels but no boddy will answer
[15:48] <mcphail> delipero: that does not make it on-topic here
[15:48] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/62730/cannot-change-soft-block-setting-to-no-for-ar9287-wireless-network
[15:50] <billharrison> Can someone paste me a copy of their /etc/default/locale file?
[15:51] <EriC^^> billharrison: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690846/
[15:51] <billharrison> I need to get on with my job, this is ruining my schedule that is already behind.
[15:51] <mcphail> billharrison: I can paste a debian one, if it helps...
[15:52] <billharrison> EriC^^: Thanks so much. I'm hoping that will resolve my charset problem.
[15:52] <EriC^^> billharrison: no problem
[15:53] <billharrison> This is mine, which looks corrupt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690853/
[15:53] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: you can try it manually without needing to reboot using "sudo modprobe -r acer-wmi" then "echo 'blacklist acer-wmi' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-acer-wmi.conf" then "sudo modprobe -r ath9k && sudo modprobe ath9k"
[15:53] <EriC^^> billharrison: yeah
[16:03] <Travis> Hello
[16:08] <dougquaid> I installed x2go server on my Ubuntu 14.04 desktop. In my x2go client I chose Gnome as the desktop environment, but the client just sits there with a black screen. Is there a way to fix that? Or should I choose another desktop environment in my client?
[16:11] <umbra_purus> Hey. I'm having troubles enabling wifi. when i rfkill list it shows the one acer is soft blocked but I have two wireless cards.. I should have only one and probably that's why I can't enable wifi. Can someone please help me with this?
[16:12] <umbra_purus> Hey. I'm having troubles enabling wifi. when i rfkill list it shows the one acer is soft blocked but I have two wireless cards.. I should have only one and probably that's why I can't enable wifi. Can someone please help me with this?
[16:12] <umbra_purus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11690964/
[16:13] <TJ-> umbra_purus: did you see the link I posted for you, and my suggested test to see if it solves it?
[16:13] <compdoc> umbra_purus, I dont use wifi, but do you see the adapter(s) in the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules   ?
[16:14] <umbra_purus> compdoc: yes what about it?
[16:14] <compdoc> are there more than one adapter?
[16:14] <compdoc> it should only list your actual nics
[16:15] <ioria> umbra_purus, how did you install the driver ? backports ?
[16:15] <Sholira> I ran into a problem with my dual boot ubuntu laptop, after a software update it's stuck in a login loop, I tried reinstalling ubuntu and many other options from the internet. When I check the .xsession-error it gives this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11678071/
[16:15] <umbra_purus> yeah. probably the acer one is automatically installed in the installation of the os
[16:16] <umbra_purus> Nop. Not backports. I selected the option in download drivers
[16:17] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/62730/cannot-change-soft-block-setting-to-no-for-ar9287-wireless-network
[16:17] <TJ-> umbra_purus_: you can try it manually without needing to reboot using "sudo modprobe -r acer-wmi" then "echo 'blacklist acer-wmi' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-acer-wmi.conf" then "sudo modprobe -r ath9k && sudo modprobe ath9k"
[16:17] <clayendisk1> Hey all.
[16:17] <clayendisk1> Need some help.
[16:19] <Rene_x> welcome to ubuntu free customer service, just pose your question, and when anybody knows the awnser they will trow something out :)
[16:19] <clayendisk1> Does anybody know about icons for launchers? I've tried deleting them in [/usr/share/icons/.../emotes] and they still show up!
[16:19] <clayendisk1> Thank you.
[16:19] <clayendisk1> emoticons*
[16:19] <Rene_x> how you mean they show up ?
[16:20] <Rene_x> as files after deleting ?
[16:20] <clayendisk1> Ok. When I edit a launcher, I click on the icon button and it pulls up all the different categories... file-types/emotes/etc
[16:20] <Rene_x> if so you have the correct rights to del them ?
[16:20] <clayendisk1> Yeah, the files are all deleted, Rene_x
[16:21] <Rene_x> maybe they are pulled from else where ?
[16:21] <clayendisk1> But they show up still when I choose "emoticons" under the icon-selector gui of the launcher editor
[16:21] <clayendisk1> Any idea where they'd be?
[16:21] <conyoo> hi guys, i got error ;(
[16:21] <Rene_x> maybe a disk wide search for the file name ?
[16:22] <conyoo> sudo snappy rollback webdm
[16:22] <conyoo> panic: runtime error: invalid memory address or nil pointer dereference
[16:22] <conyoo> [signal 0xb code=0x1 addr=0x20 pc=0x5ca3b1]
[16:22] <conyoo> can help?
[16:22] <clayendisk1> Thanks, I tried that!
[16:23] <Rene_x> clayendisk1> i mean it's strange that icons would still show if you deleted them, i would then asume there are other (copies?) icons used/pulled from some where else then
[16:23] <clayendisk1> Yeah, I agree!
[16:23] <clayendisk1> hmm.
[16:23] <umbra_purus> TJ-: it worked TJ :D what is modprobe? can you explain really quickly what all this commands do?
[16:23] <Rene_x> not sure, sorry i have to go again , im just another ubuntu noob :) wot is waiting maybe others have a better awnser then me :)
[16:24] <clayendisk1> They've got to be in some kind of tarball or something, since the search wouldn't find extras either.
[16:24] <clayendisk1> Hey thanks for giving it a shot!
[16:26] <TJ-> umbra_purus: basically, an incompatible driver (acer-wmi) got in the way and stopped proper control of the device. By unloading the acer-wmi driver from the kernel and then blacklisting it so it can't be loaded automatically, it put the system in a proper state
[16:26] <ming> hello world
[16:26] <ankay> hi
[16:27] <Guest68028> hi
[16:27] <TJ-> umbra_purus: to be sure, please do a complete reboot and ensure the wifi works. If not we may need to alter the blacklist setting
[16:27] <ankay> how are you?
[16:27] <Guest68028> I'm good
[16:28] <Guest68028> I'm Chinese
[16:28] <ankay> any spanish room?
[16:28] <ankay> im spanish
[16:28] <ankay> And now im using ubuntu 12.04
[16:29] <Guest68028> ubuntu 14.04
[16:29] <Guest68028> 14.04
[16:29] <ankay> i prefeer 12.04
[16:30] <ankay> but last year i used 14.04
[16:30] <ankay> any spanish room?
[16:31]  * ankay need help
[16:31] <TJ-> !es | ankay
[16:31] <ankay> thanks
[16:31] <umbra_purus> TJ-: thanks TJ-  sorry for you troubles
[16:32] <TJ-> umbra_purus: Good luck with it, its nice to know you've got it working :)
[16:32] <ankay> im new
[16:37] <orion> Hi. How come Ubuntu's NTP package uses version 4.2.6?
[16:37] <orion> https://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2014-9295
[16:39] <mohammed> hi
[16:40] <TJ-> orion: The package is patched
[16:40] <Guest57513> hi
[16:40] <orion> TJ-: Why don't they bump the version?
[16:40] <TJ-> It is
[16:40] <TJ-> orion: see the package's changelog
[16:41] <orion> TJ-: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ntp 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.3
[16:41] <ballardboy> I have install grunt-cli on 14.04 and the install worked but when I type in grunt I get the following message /usr/bin/env: node: No such file or directory. Has anybody else had this problem and how do I fix it?
[16:41] <TJ-> orion: and?
[16:42] <orion> TJ-: I'm expecting it to say 1:4.2.8... not 1:4.2.6...
[16:42] <TJ-> orion: why? we don't update wholesale we just patch specific known bugs
[16:42] <TJ-> orion: see the changelog: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/n/ntp/ntp_4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3ubuntu2.14.04.3/changelog
[16:42] <orion> TJ-: Alright.
[16:42] <TJ-> orion: "debian/patches/CVE-2014-9295.patch: check lengths in ..."
[16:43] <orion> TJ-: Ok, thank you.
[16:44] <swy> 12.04 LTS question: Server in a VM, static IP configuration. /etc/network/interfaces has proper dns-nameservers configured. can dig @DNS_Server $host and it works.  But dig $host fails. I'm out of ideas why that might be and seeking new ones.
[16:44] <Guest57513> hii
[16:46] <TJ-> orion: the general policy of security patches is explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Preparing_a_patch
[16:48] <orion> TJ-: Ok, thank you.
[16:49] <bugsonubuntu> Hey, I have a issue on ubuntu, when I boot half of the time it loads a purple screen then freezes I then have to turn it off and on go to recovery and get an error then restart again then I have to boot normally get a error about a driver or something I also have a  hard time shutting tdown it stays on the screen does go black though half the time i shut my screen down it stays on
[16:52] <bugsonubuntu> can anyone help?
[16:52] <Sholira> I ran into a problem with my dual boot ubuntu laptop, after a software update it's stuck in a login loop, I tried reinstalling ubuntu and many other options from the internet. When I check the .xsession-error it gives this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11678071/
[16:53] <bugsonubuntu> does your screen go purple?
[16:53] <Sholira> only black and then back to the login screen
[16:54] <bugsonubuntu> Hey, I have a issue on ubuntu, when I boot half of the time it loads a purple screen then freezes I then have to turn it off and on go to recovery and get an error then restart again then I have to boot normally get a error about a driver or something I also have a  hard time shutting tdown it stays on the screen does go black though half the time i shut my screen down it stays on
[16:54] <bugsonubuntu> Can you help me?
[16:54] <Sholira> I'm quite new to ubuntu myself tbh
[16:55] <Sholira> So I haven't ran into a lot of stuff yet, so sorry :(
[16:55] <TJ-> Sholira: Have you tried deleting the "/home/$USER/.Xauthority" file?
[16:55] <Sholira> TJ- , yes
[16:56] <ioria> TJ- you know what   ~/.config/dconf/user    file is ?
[16:56] <TJ-> Sholira: You were able to delete it, and the loop continued? sometimes that file gets owned by root and the $USER cannot delete that file without using "sudo"
[16:57] <Sholira> TJ- , I deleted it without using sudo and the loop continues
[16:57] <TJ-> Sholira: OK, that's always the obvious cause so worth checking :)
[16:58] <TJ-> Sholira: I looked at your .xsession-errors but it didn't suggest anything to me other than that.
[16:58] <TJ-> ioria: I think it's dconf's settings file isn't it?
[16:59] <Sholira> TJ-, I tried a lot of the stuff already from other people with the same symptoms, but nothing has helped so far =/
[16:59] <Sholira> I can also check other stuff if that might help
[16:59] <Sholira> for you to help
[17:01] <yeiner> hola
[17:01] <TJ-> Sholira: I'm wondering if it could be a lightdm session issue. There's usually log files created in "/var/log/lightdm/" that I investigate for these type of issues
[17:04] <Sholira> TJ-, what should I look for in those files?
[17:05] <TJ-> Sholira: any indication of an error :D I have no idea specifically, but usually you can separate regular informational messages  from the warnings/errors
[17:13] <Sholira> TJ- I'm now looking at a log file that seems to have quite some errors, some involve something for my wallpaper, the other: Error getting properties on a new menuitem: Error getting properties for ID
[17:14] <TJ-> Sholira: can you pastebin the file "pastebinit /var/log/lightdm/<filename>" ?
[17:16] <Sholira> TJ- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11691287/
[17:19] <TJ-> Sholira: unfortunately, those don't help... pretty normal output
[17:19] <MrDoctor> Does anyone know a fix for this http://askubuntu.com/questions/498153/accented-characters-not-rendering-correctly-on-title-bar-in-ubuntu-14-04?
[17:19] <Sholira> TJ- okay, anything else I can check that might help? ^^"
[17:19] <MrDoctor> Which is also same as this http://askubuntu.com/questions/533059/weird-box-like-characters-showing-up-in-title-bar-of-windows.
[17:21] <Zack263> does ubuntu have a utorrent
[17:22] <Zack263> i'm gonna check ubuntu store
[17:22] <schnitz> need help with graphics problem
[17:22] <schnitz> running ubuntustudio 15.04
[17:23] <schnitz> rate is 60 Hz only, tried lots of things
[17:23] <schnitz> not a Linux pro, just a user
[17:23] <TJ-> Sholira: long shot but I vaguely recall having an issue with the lightdm .Xauthority file. Can't remember if it allowed the system to get as far as beginning a user-login though. There's a "/var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority" file I had to delete. Requires switching to a VT using Ctrl+Alt+F1, log-in, then "sudo service lightdm stop" then "sudo rm /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority" then "sudo service lightdm restart" ... I think there's only a 2% chance that'll affect it thou
[17:23] <TJ-> gh
[17:24] <schnitz> updated to 15.04 and am not so deeply involved with Linux, but everything worked well for many months. Now suddenly, I have only 60Hz whatever I do
 (yes I'm running an old school monitor)
 Problem is, I have a onboard APU with an additional graphics card. Both AMD / ATI ... under Windows, with ATI drivers, they work together well, do multi-GPU load balancing
 under Ubuntu, they seem to collide now
 Since I'm not doing anything graphics intense, I was wondering whether I could *disable* and additional grafics cards hardware-wise under Linux
 aticonfig is not working properly under Linux, tried lots of configs, it mostly crashes and doesn't help at alll
[17:27] <schnitz> How can I completely deactivate an additional graphics card so ubuntu is forced to only use the onboard GPU on the APU / Mainboard?
[17:27] <schnitz> (w/o physically pulling it out of the PC ;-)
[17:28] <Zack263> do you guys have a recommend torrent client for ubuntu?
[17:28] <TJ-> schnitz: if the GPUs don't share the same driver, blacklist the driver
[17:28] <schnitz> TJ- perfect, how do I that?
[17:28] <schnitz> how do I do that...
[17:29] <TJ-> schnitz: identify which driver(s) the GPUs use first: "lspci -nnvvv" look at the "driver in use" line
[17:29] <schnitz> ok will do thx
[17:29] <Zack263> omg i just read this online... "Be Safe. Use Linux.
[17:30] <Zack263> Double your drive space. Delete Windows. "
[17:30] <slayer> anyone ever faced a not working usb 3.0 port in Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:30] <histo> slayer: what's not working it's not showing any devices or the speed?
[17:30] <slayer> no devices
[17:31] <histo> slayer: new mobo?
[17:31] <histo> slayer: mother board
[17:31] <slayer> nope, its a laptop
[17:31] <slayer> preinstalled Ubuntu
[17:31] <histo> slayer: preinstalled by whom?
[17:31] <slayer> Dell
[17:32] <histo> slayer: That's odd. Maybe try a live cd and see if they borked something up with their configuration
[17:32] <schnitz> TJ- thanks, I found both GPUs in that list, unfortunately they both use the same kernel driver 'fglrx_pci'
[17:32] <histo> slayer: if not perhaps the hardware itself is bad.
[17:34] <dionysus69> hey guys, I have this thing to do, right now my ubuntu partition is at the end of the hard drive, is it possible to move it in front??
[17:34] <TJ-> schnitz: OK, so you'd have to use the ATI specific config tool ... which from what you said earlier, doesn't work!?
[17:35] <Sholira> TJ- I tried your option but it didn't work...
[17:35] <slayer> histo: the hardware is okay
[17:36] <slayer> it worked fine few few days earlier but today it completely stopped
[17:36] <TJ-> Sholira: it was a very long shot
[17:36] <khaldrogox> is there an official channel for cannonical openstack + maas?
[17:37] <slayer> histo: it was dropping usb mouse connection but pen drives were working fine
[17:37] <Sholira> TJ- any shot is a shot for me, do you have another suggestion?
[17:38] <slayer> histo: though i managed to fix it by blacklisting module "uas"
[17:38] <schnitz> TJ- it mostly crashes, I can do changes, but then after reboot ubuntu tells me it crashed during startup
[17:38] <slayer> But I wonder what could have done this behavior... I didnt even did any changes to system recently
[17:39] <zero-1> hi everyone, quick question, I'm on a fresh install and my keyboard is going crazy repeating keystrokes randomly, I thought i could be my mechanical keyboard, I connected a different keyboard and the problem persist
[17:39] <TJ-> schnitz: does the crash report give you an option to examine the details of the crash? that might help fix the crash entirely
[17:40] <schnitz> yes it does I just chose to ignore it :-)
[17:40] <zero-1> I checked accesibility settings everything is off, what can I do to fix this, trying to code like this is super annoying and time consuming
[17:40] <schnitz> no I did read it, it was just beyond my knowledge
[17:41] <schnitz> from what I could tell it seemed to have memory allocation issues
[17:41] <TJ-> schnitz: usually best to fix or workaround the root issue
[17:41] <poacheR> Hello. I have a question that's been bugging me for years, but I never set out to answer it properly. What do people generally do if they need to install a package but it relies on newer libraries than those installed on your system?
[17:41] <vooze> I'm trying to change the lightdm unity-greeter GTK-theme. I have found the options in dconf under unity-greeter, but it does not seem to have any affect at login. What could I be doing wrong?
[17:41] <proderlinor> How do i remove xfce4 without removing any installed software
[17:42] <poacheR> Ideally I would love to find a way to create a 'static' deb ... but the only instance of a static .deb I've ever come across was from skype. People do not tend to package their .deb files as static or offer that choice in general.
[17:42] <TJ-> proderlinor: that doesn't make sense. how can you remove it without removing the software?
[17:43] <poacheR> I know there's a way, *if* you have those other libraries installed somewhere else, to point  LD_LIBRARY_PATH to them and run your file
[17:43] <poacheR> and presumably to install it in the first place you might have to do something like dpkg -i --force-all
[17:43] <poacheR> but then there's the question where do you get all the library files in general
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> proderlinor  xfce *is* software
[17:43] <poacheR> do you hunt them down one by one?
[17:43] <TJ-> poacheR: build the software inside it using static linkage rather than dynamic shared objects
[17:44] <poacheR> do you add a newer repository? doesn't that break the old one?
[17:44] <zero-1> could erst_disabled and acpi=off in grub be the cause of my keyboard issues?
[17:44] <lufei> hello
[17:44] <backbox> hello
[17:44] <poacheR> TJ-: can you elaborate a bit more? Is this standard practice, or your suggestion?
[17:44] <TJ-> zero-1: Yes
[17:44] <lufei>  大家好
[17:44] <schnitz> TJ- total agreement, its just that understanding the error report upon start-up/crash needs to happen first
[17:44] <lufei> 大家 好，有没有人在用VNC?
[17:45] <genewitch> I'm getting a certificate error from a baltimorecity.gov website in curl and wget (http://projectftm.com/index.php?1849f6 errors); is this a possible ubuntu CA issue or is this the website/godaddy issue? who should i call?
[17:45] <zero-1> TJ - which one would be? both? I added those options to  get rid of some of the errors at boot
[17:45] <genewitch> because that cert doesn't look self signed, it looks signed by godaddy
[17:45] <TJ-> poacheR: When building binary executables there's 2 options for accessing code from other libraries: 1) dynamic linking to shared objects and 2) static linking to the libXXX.a files which are included inside the binary executable so it does not need to load any external code
[17:46] <abel> hola
[17:46] <lufei> bye
[17:46] <zero-1> brb rebooting with those options removed from grub
[17:47] <TJ-> zero-1: erst_disabled only affects MCE log access via ACPI I believe, so acpi=off is going to affect a LOT of things
[17:47] <poacheR> TJ-: oh, I see, sorry, no I don't mean anything to do with building. If I'm building something myself in the first place, I can get it to run anyway. I'm talking about getting a deb file from the internet, which on installation complains that I don't satisfy the dependencies because my ubuntu is old.
[17:47] <TJ-> poacheR: Ahhh, in that case you're stuck, unless you create a container using LXC (think Docker) and install just what's needed in that
[17:48] <poacheR> LXC?
[17:48] <TJ-> poacheR: LinuX Containers
[17:48] <poacheR> I'll look that up, thanks. So, there isn't a "standard" way of dealing with this problem?
[17:48] <TJ-> poacheR: Yes... only use the distro's archives :)
[17:48] <poacheR> lol
[17:49] <TJ-> poacheR: Or else, use a bleeding edge distro that tracks upstreams or builds everything for your system
[17:49] <poacheR> TJ-: on my home computer, this is what I'd do. The problem comes more when I need to use a package at work, but our IT department doesn't allow us to upgrade the distro in general (because they don't "offer support" for it).
[17:50] <poacheR> So I'm stuck with a version of ubuntu which is 6-versions behind, but need to install, say, the latest octave
[17:50] <TJ-> poacheR: which is a very sensible rule to have
[17:50] <poacheR> (ok, octave is a bad example, because that's better built from source anyway)
[17:50] <TJ-> poacheR: Are you able to run virtual machines?
[17:50] <poacheR> (but you know what I mean)
[17:51] <poacheR> yes, but I was wondering if there's a standardized solution to fetching newer libraries and running a .deb that requires them, that I wasn't aware of
[17:51] <TJ-> poacheR: or create a chroot (change root) and install the distro release required in that
[17:51] <poacheR> seems to be a very frequent problem, and one that would scare newbies away ... I'm fairly confident in linux and I still just say "eh, fukit, I don't really need this then" when that happens
[17:51] <TJ-> poacheR: No... the LXC/Docker approach has in a general way come out of what you're describing.
[17:52] <TJ-> poacheR: allowing single apps to be isolated from the rest of the OS with their own dependencies
[17:52] <poacheR> I remember this "linux static installation process" project a long time ago ... can't remember the name now, but it was going to be packaging things statically into 'keys' or sth. or 'bottles'. or something like that
[17:52] <poacheR> (no, not wine)
[17:53] <poacheR> yeah. thanks, I'll have a look at that
[17:53] <poacheR> That still means tracking down the libraries by myself on the interwebz though, presumably, right?
[17:53] <poacheR> like, packages.debian.com or sth
[17:54] <poacheR> solving this problem would be a nice little 'app' actually ...
[17:54] <Gh0st-> can anyone here Help me with IRCANYWHERE?
[17:54] <poacheR> if only I had the time for play :p
[17:55] <Gh0st-> on Ubuntu
[17:55] <zero-1> back from reboot, so far the keyboard has been behaving properly, let's see if it lasts
[17:55] <histo> pa: what do you want to do?
[17:55] <dionysus69> ram indicator is showing "cache" and it sometimes overloads and computer lags why?
[17:55] <histo> poacheR: what do you want to do?
[17:55] <histo> dionysus69: linuxatemyram.com
[17:55] <poacheR> histo: tl;dr general approach to installing a .deb with newer dependencies on an older ubuntu
[17:55] <zero-1> can anyone enlighten me as to why those options could make my keyboard go crazy? (erst_disabled acpi=off  on grub)
[17:56] <histo> poacheR: lxc or docker.  or the new snappy packages that are proposed
[17:56] <poacheR> (or, a newer package on an older linux distro in general)
[17:56] <dionysus69> histo: haha thats funny ;P but I am sure its not supposed to get laggy at points ?? :S
[17:56] <genewitch> I'm getting a certificate error from a baltimorecity.gov website in curl and wget (http://projectftm.com/index.php?1849f6 errors); is this a possible ubuntu CA issue or is this the website/godaddy issue? I called the OIT of that government, but i want to be sure i'm not an idiot, too.
[17:56] <poacheR> histo: yeah, thanks, I'll have a look at that. It's weird that you'd need containers in the first place though ...
[17:57] <poacheR> histo: essentially bringing the newer libraries in the same folder and linking to them is the windows approach, right?
[17:57] <poacheR> histo: I don't see why you'd need such a specialised structure just to put things in one place and ask the executable to use those instead of the system ones.
[17:57] <poacheR> histo: anyway, I'll have a look. thanks!
[17:58] <histo> poacheR: check out snappy sounds exactly liek what you are talking about
[17:58] <genewitch> poacheR: if you want something like that you either need containers /etc/alternatives maybe
[17:58] <histo> poacheR: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy
[17:58] <poacheR> histo: cool thanks!
[17:59] <poacheR> genewitch: I'm not looking for something specific per se. It's just a general problem I come across very often, and I'd not bothered to ask how people go about it in general in years.
[17:59] <genewitch> poacheR: you could compile all the libraries you need and then force the source of whatever you're trying to port to use those libraries, but then we're back at 1995. look for a backport?
[17:59] <TJ-> zero-1: Turning ACPI off is pretty extreme on any modern PC (after 2004)
[17:59] <poacheR> genewitch: yes, exactly xD
[18:00] <Guest91992> hey guys, I'm having a little issue here, when I'm trying to connect to some wifi network with ubuntu it keeps trying and can't connect to the network. so I just can access the internet through cable... any idea?
[18:00] <poacheR> genewitch: I was just wondering if there was something out there that had addressed this issue and that people were actively using for this reason
[18:01] <genewitch> poacheR: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/update-alternatives.8.html maybe
[18:01] <zero-1> TJ- I did it because I had an error saying that acpi probe failed so it made me think that maybe I had it installed but my motherboard didn't support it
[18:01] <genewitch> Guest91992: has it ever connected to a wifi network?
[18:01] <conyoo> help :( how do you install this ubuntu? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-preinstalled/current/
[18:02] <zero-1> TJ - the error went away and I ended up with a clean boot with no errors, but a crazy keyboard
[18:02] <conyoo> i can't find the .iso there
[18:02] <poacheR> genewitch: this assumes I already have the newer libraries installed somewhere, right?
[18:02] <Guest91992> genewitch, yes, but he(my friend) told me it stopped suddenly
[18:02] <conyoo> and i have no idea how to install  wily-preinstalled-desktop-next-i386.device.tar.gz
[18:02] <genewitch> Guest91992: maybe your friend's wifi password changed
[18:03] <Guest91992> genewitch, I can see the wifi networks avaliable, then when I try to put the password it just try to connect, but doens't work
[18:05] <genewitch> Guest91992: grep /var/log/syslog for "wpa_supplicant"
[18:05] <genewitch> Guest91992: that'll tell you the errors since it's not showing up and dyying silently?
[18:06] <Guest91992> genewitch, I don't have installed ubuntu yet, there is no syslog file... I'm running ubuntu from a usb stick
[18:07] <hr49_pi> exit
[18:07] <hr49_pi> sorry, confused irc for terminal :P
[18:08] <genewitch> hr49_pi: ctrl-D
[18:11] <luvenfu> hello, i tried to use cron, but don't know why the script is not executing, i did a script to write and then open gedit, there's something i forgot to did: 20 * * * * * ~/script?
[18:12] <TJ-> luvenfu: use the absolute path to the script, not relative or using shell aliases like "~"
[18:13] <luvenfu> TJ: i think the alias is HOME, i forgot that, thanks
[18:15] <luvenfu> TJ-: there's no error log of cron?
[18:18] <TJ-> luvenfu: syslog I think
[18:23] <tonyyarusso> luvenfu: cron sends errors to the user's system mail account.  But two things: 1) Yeah, user absolute paths, and 2) Good luck launching a graphical application from cron.
[18:24] <luvenfu> can't i use $HOME then?
[18:25] <EriC^^> luvenfu: you need to run DISPLAY=:0 gedit
[18:25] <EriC^^> in the script
[18:26] <luvenfu> EriC^^: ok, but even the command echo "TEST" > output isn't working.
[18:26] <EriC^^> you need to type ~/output
[18:26] <luvenfu> EriC^^: my crontab -e is opening a tmp file
[18:26] <EriC^^> luvenfu: that's normal
[18:26] <francooblo> ciao
[18:27] <luvenfu> EriC^^: ok, but what about /etc/crontab? the contents are different
[18:27] <EriC^^> luvenfu: those are system-wide, nevermind them
[18:27] <luvenfu> EriC^^: should i use crontab -e or /etc/crontab?
[18:27] <EriC^^> luvenfu: your cron is in /var/spool/cron/...
[18:27] <EriC^^> luvenfu: use crontab -e
[18:28] <TunaFish> anyone using fish as their shell? is ok to change bash to fish using chsh -s /usr/bin/fish?
[18:29] <poacheR> TunaFish: I've used it in the past. Very nice little shell.
[18:29] <rxr_> Hi, this is the first time that I've install ubuntu. Thanks to all
[18:30] <TunaFish> poacheR, Thx for the comment, I like its auto complete, that's why I am thinking about the change
[18:30] <michelubuntu> TJ-: knock knock
[18:30] <clayendisk1> I have a question I don't know how to find answers to: I tried deleting certain "emoticons" from [/usr/share/icons/*/emotes] and they still show up in the launcher editor.
[18:31] <luvenfu> EriC^^: thanks
[18:31] <Samul`> okay, I've just installed livemix – live mixer from the ubuntu software center
[18:31] <Samul`> and it just does not work
[18:31] <Samul`> as soon as I open it, it closes
[18:31] <Samul`> ubuntu says something crashed. I send the report
[18:31] <Samul`> and I try to open it again
[18:31] <Samul`> this, forever
[18:32] <TJ-> Samul`: try starting it from a terminal command-line it may report something useful
[18:33] <Samul`> the original output is: Errore di segmentazione (core dump creato), which means segmentation error (dump core created)
[18:33] <EriC^^> luvenfu: no problem
[18:33] <Samul`> also, jack_client_new: deprecated {new line} Connected to session bus, unique name is ":1.198"
[18:33] <Samul`> (didn't want to use pastebin for 3 lines worth of text)
[18:33] <Samul`> TJ-: what should I do?
[18:34] <TJ-> Samul`: nothing much of use there, unfortunately
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> Samul`  try mixxx (tripple x)
[18:36] <TJ-> Samul`: A known bug, apparently: bug #951321
[18:36] <TJ-> Samul`: unfortunately, the bug report is currently marked Private so you won't be able to view it
[18:37] <TJ-> Samul`: did you let the system post a bug report when it crashed?
[18:38] <Samul`> I did, TJ-
[18:38] <Samul`> so that piece of software is still under development?
[18:38] <Sebaaas> Hi
[18:38] <Sebaaas> Can you help me?
[18:38] <Samul`> MonkeyDust: does it support plugins like normal DAWs?
[18:38] <Pici> Sebaaas: You'll need to ask a question first. ;)
[18:38] <Samul`> I need to be able to play a mic input live and add some effects as well
[18:39] <TJ-> Samul`: I think it is more likely it is bit-rotting... not been kept up to date with system libraries
[18:39] <Samul`> so this problem is not up to my system right?
[18:40] <Samul`> because I've had some problems with software crashes recently
[18:40] <Sebaaas> What this lines DOES?  sudo iptables -A INPUT -i eth0:1 -s 0/0 -d 0/0 -j ACCEPT
[18:40] <Sebaaas>  sudo iptables -A INPUT -i lo -s 0/0 -d 0/0 -j ACCEPT
[18:40] <Samul`> I think it tells iptables not to deny something from someone
[18:41] <Samul`> but I'm not sure, wait for the reply from a more experienced one XD
[18:41] <Sebaaas> what means -s 0/0 exactly?
[18:41] <Samul`> I don't know, I'm afraid
[18:41] <Sebaaas> and -d 0/0
[18:41] <Sebaaas> Its hard to understand
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> Samul`  i guess the people in #ubuntustudio know such details
[18:41] <Samul`> let someone else tell you, since I'm not familiar with iptables
[18:41] <Samul`> thank you MonkeyDust
[18:42] <Sebaaas> Someone expert?¿
[18:42] <pavlos> Sebaaas, -s is source, -d is destination ... man iptables
[18:43] <Sebaaas> yes i know, but if i put 1/1
[18:43] <Sebaaas> or 1/0 ?
[18:43] <poacheR> TunaFish: you know bash has autocomplete too though, right?
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | Sebaaas
[18:43] <poacheR> TunaFish: not as "matlabish" as fish, but still good. I admit I didn't know about it until after I tried fish and checked if bash had the same too
[18:43] <pavlos> Sebaaas, it expects address/mask
[18:44] <TJ-> Samul`: From what I can see, the cause is a problem with one or more of the plugins
[18:44] <Sebaaas> then if i put 1/0 , i expect only the address?
[18:45] <TunaFish> poacheR, I think I know, with tab right? I'll check it out to confirm if it is good or not for me.
[18:45] <poacheR> TunaFish: no, with Ctrl+R
[18:46] <poacheR> TunaFish: and there's reverse search too, but a feature of modern linuxes fucks that up, and you'll have to edit your bash.rc first if you really want it
[18:47] <poacheR> TunaFish: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/73498/how-to-cycle-through-reverse-i-search-in-bash
[18:47] <TunaFish> poacheR, Ctrl R opens up reverse search, not auto complete? but I didn't know about reverse search, it look good.
[18:48] <TunaFish> poacheR, Nice, thanks, look quite useful. I need to read the fucking manual.
[18:49] <Sebaaas> Its okay now i understand
[18:49] <poacheR> TunaFish: well, if you press ctrl+R after you've already typed something, it's like an autocomplete from history
[18:49] <Sebaaas> Thanks you guys, especially pavlos
[18:49] <poacheR> and obviously, normal autocomplete exists with tab
[18:50] <TunaFish> I think I've fallen in love with fish's webconfig, and colorful default config. though I already colored my bash, it looked cute :3
[18:50] <SCHAAP137> Sebaaas, 0/0 stands for 0.0.0.0/0 i think
[18:50] <HelpeRX> im currently using webchat.freenod.net and the text box to type is so small how do i increase the size im on the latest ubuntu
[18:51] <Sebaaas> THe first 0 for the IP
[18:51] <Sebaaas> and the t
[18:51] <Sebaaas> and the right 0 for the mask
[18:51] <SCHAAP137> most probably, yes
[18:51] <Sebaaas> then i can put 192.168.10.1/0
[18:51] <SCHAAP137> 1/0 or 0/1 makes no sense
[18:51] <SCHAAP137> no, a specific IP is always a /32
[18:51] <Sebaaas> or 192.168.10.1/1
[18:52] <SCHAAP137> learn about subnets
[18:52] <bekks>  /0 doesnt make sense.
[18:52] <SCHAAP137> i've seen it before in firewalls
[18:52] <Sebaaas> i see in the manual the 1 means a 24 mask adress
[18:52] <SCHAAP137> ah rly?
[18:52] <Sebaaas> see man iptables
[18:52] <Sebaaas> my english is not so good so if you can explain me more
[18:53] <SCHAAP137> i don't know iptables that well
[18:53] <HelpeRX>  my english is not so good so if you can explain it to me more
[18:53] <HelpeRX> would be the correct way to say that
[18:53] <bekks> Sebaaas: Where does it say that in "man iptables"?
[18:53] <SCHAAP137> 0.0.0.0/0 = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_route
[18:53] <Sebaaas> ok ty helper xD
[18:54] <Sebaaas> bekks
[18:54] <Sebaaas> go man iptables
[18:54] <Sebaaas> it is shows that
[18:54] <bekks> Sebaaas: I did. And I found only ONE reference of "24".
[18:55] <bekks> So where does it say that /1 means 255.255.255.0 ?
[18:55] <Sebaaas> i think so
[18:55] <SCHAAP137> makes no sense
[18:55] <bekks> Sebaaas: It doesnt say that at all.
[18:55] <SCHAAP137> 0.0.0.0/0 is more likely, meaning default route
[18:56] <SCHAAP137> all my iptables entries are in CIDR notation, it can reasonably be assumed that 0/0 is short for 0.0.0.0/0
[18:56] <Sebaaas> ah
[18:56] <Sebaaas> and what i need to put in the right side
[18:56] <Sebaaas> the 0 means?
[18:56] <SCHAAP137> read
[18:56] <SCHAAP137> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_route
[18:57] <poacheR> TunaFish: I liked fish very much, but in the end, the non-standard way of doing scripts was a no-no for me
[18:57] <poacheR> TunaFish: if I remember correctly, anyway.
[18:57] <zero-1> TJ - What about erst is that safe to disable?
[18:57] <Sebaaas> im not so good in english
[18:57] <Sebaaas> so what it tells
[18:57] <Sebaaas> ?
[18:57] <SCHAAP137> i'm tired of repeating myself; use Google
[18:57] <poacheR> TunaFish: because it meant that I can't just run a bash script straight in the terminal
[18:58] <TunaFish> poacheR, yeah that's why I think I'll stay with bash for now
[18:58] <Sebaaas> The subnet mask is given as /0, which effectively specifies all networks
[18:59] <poacheR> TunaFish: But yeah, I remember fish just like that: Lots of good ideas that I wished bash would adopt, but in the end, not 100% compatible with bash stuff, so you can't really 'just switch'.
[18:59] <jouk> I've edited an /etc/init/blah.conf file. Do I need to do anything to upstart before those changes can take affect?
[19:00] <jouk> (because right now, the changes aren't taking effect)
[19:00] <Sebaaas> 192.168.2.0/24 for IPv4, and 2001:db8::/32 for IPv6.
[19:00] <TJ-> zero-1: Yes, some systems require that to boot successfully, if their ACPI MCE ERST logic is broken
[19:01] <jouk> to be clearer, when I sudo stop foo, the changes I've made to /etc/init/foo.conf aren't showing up.
[19:02] <zero-1> alritghty then I guess that's my next attempt
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | jouk
[19:06] <porcho> hi there. I've just update to mate 1.8.1 and I'm facing some problems with caja. right after I log, tons of instances start up, and I see lots of "Starting Caja" icons. already tried adding "-n" and "--sync" options to the Exec lines of caja*.desktop files, but that didn't work.
[19:06] <porcho> I see tons of "caja: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/caja/extensions-2.0/libcaja-actions-tracker.so: undefined symbol: g_type_add_instance_private" in my .xsession_erros file, also
[19:06] <porcho> can anyone help me?
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> porcho: maybe the #ubuntu-mate guys can help you?
[19:07] <Helperx> what font is recommed for web browsing?
[19:07] <porcho> lotuspsychje, I'll ask them. tks
[19:07] <bekks> Helperx: One which your readers can read.
[19:08] <Helperx> no i mean for just general browsing
[19:08] <Helperx> something compatible with everything
[19:08] <bekks> Helperx: There is no such font.
[19:09] <Helperx> dang lol
[19:09] <Jordan_U> Helperx: What problem are you trying to solve?
[19:09] <Helperx> small text box right now on webchat.freenode.net
[19:09] <xor_ax_ax> what are the rules to peaknuckle?
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> Helperx: use an irc chat client
[19:11] <Helperx> that wont fix the problem though of why it is like this currenltly
[19:12] <delinquentme> I assume that linux / ubuntu has some kind of internal DB it uses ... if thats correct ... just out of curiosity .. what db is it
[19:12] <delinquentme> ?
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> Helperx: this is not really an ubuntu issue right, check your webchat options, maybe you can bigger the fonts
[19:13] <Helperx> yes it is lol since when i log using windows its not an issue
[19:13] <TJ-> delinquentme: I think you assume wrongly, unless you can be more specific
[19:14] <delinquentme> TJ-,  where do things like passwords get stored?
[19:14] <delinquentme> filesystem?
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> Helperx: wich ubuntu version? wich browser?
[19:14] <TJ-> delinquentme: yes
[19:14] <Helperx> opera vivid
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> Helperx  consider using another irc client
[19:14] <delinquentme> so when linus made the quote about crappy programmers worry about their code and good ones worry about the data model
[19:14] <delinquentme> linux doesnt actually have a data model?
[19:15] <xor_ax_ax> absurd
[19:15] <tyteen4a03> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server and want to set up RAID. I have 4 disks (imgur.com/zEYT9tS) but the installer keeps telling me only 3 are available
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> delinquentme  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic, or #ubuntu-discuss
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> Helperx: did you try firefox or chromium?
[19:15] <xor_ax_ax> delinquentme, nice trollbait
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !raid | tyteen4a03
[19:15] <Helperx> yea
[19:15] <delinquentme> xor_ax_ax, it was just a thought that came up in passing -- apologies
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> Helperx  instead of struggling with it, try something else
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> Helperx: if all fonts are same on the browsers you tested, you sure you have same screen resolution as on windows?
[19:16] <Helperx> everything else is perfect
[19:17] <Helperx> also anyone have any fix for graphics accelration for the gma950
[19:18] <TJ-> Helperx: is there any real acceleration for the GMA950?
[19:18] <Helperx> eh not really but on windows there isnt any issue
[19:18] <Samul`> TJ-: I'm back right now
[19:18] <Samul`> so you said the cause may be a plugin(s)?
[19:18] <Helperx> such as using chrome but on ubuntu when opening and going into the chrome store it crashes the computer
[19:19] <Helperx> if i untick hardware accel it works but i dont understand why
[19:19] <Jordan_U> tyteen4a03: That picture shows the installer listing what appears to be all 4 2 TiB drives. What do you mean by the installer "only telling me 3 are available"? Can you post a picture of that?
[19:19] <TJ-> Helperx: I've been helping someone with the same chipset with other issues, and the research I did suggested it's a wrapper around a PowerVR core, and not well supported by Intel - I think that covered the GMA950 as well
[19:19] <TJ-> Samul`: That's what I read on the livemix forums
[19:19] <Helperx> and when i try to do a x server config it says the number of screens does not match the number of display
[19:20] <Helperx> so what should i do?
[19:20] <Samul`> by plugin do you mean L2V or similar (common plugins used in DAWs for reverb, eq, etc.) or another kind of plugin?
[19:20] <Helperx> i mean i tried doing sna accel and uxa
[19:21] <Helperx> did dri no 3d accel
[19:21] <TJ-> Samul`: I assumed you'd know what that meant - I've never used livemixx myself
[19:21] <Samul`> ah...
[19:21] <Samul`> okay probably they were talking about that kind of plugins
[19:22] <Samul`> but since I have 1000+ plugins installed on my system, let's move onto the next piece of software ^^"
[19:22] <TJ-> Samul`: this is where I read that info: http://www.hydrogen-music.org/hcms/node/531
[19:22] <Samul`> thank you
[19:33] <Dumle29> How would I go about making a bootable windows install USB from ubuntu?
[19:34] <sukapx> Take a USB Stick, drop your Windows and use Linux ;)
[19:34] <Dumle29> How would I go about making a bootable windows install USB from ubuntu? I'm in 15.04
[19:34] <Dumle29> sukapx: I am :P It's for my neighbours son :) He's 12 so I don't think it's linux time for him yet :P
[19:35] <neurot> Startup disk creator Dumle29
[19:35] <Dumle29> neurot: Only does linux distros doesn't it?
[19:35] <Jordan_U> Dumle29: That's more of a question for ##windows than #ubuntu.
[19:35] <Dumle29> Jordan_U: Not at all, as I know how to do it in windows
[19:36] <Dumle29> I'm trying to use ubuntu, to make a bootable USB stick, containing windows.
[19:36] <csb> Dumle29 Oracle's VirtualBox might be an option.
[19:37] <OerHeks> Dumle29, ask in ##windows and they will tell you about rufus
[19:37] <Jordan_U> Dumle29: This has more to do with the way that Windows boots than it does with the way that Ubuntu handles data. Please join ##windows and ask there.
[19:37] <Dumle29> Jordan_U: Hmm okay.
[19:38] <Dumle29> OerHeks: Right. Which is for windows, a.k.a. it doesn't run under linux :(
[19:38] <SCHAAP137> i tried running Ubuntu MATE on my i7-4790K, but it sees a 3rd/4th generation Xeon 1240 series, even though intel-microcode package is installed
[19:38] <SCHAAP137> any tips how to make it show the true processor?
[19:38] <csb> Dumle29, Have you tried Oracle's VirtualBox?
[19:39] <neurot> Dumle29 do you have a dvd just burn one
[19:39] <xor_ax_ax> Dumle29, Winusb.
[19:39] <Dumle29> xor_ax_ax: Tried that, it doesn't work (can't select the stick)
[19:39] <Dumle29> neurot: Nope, bought a key online
[19:40] <OerHeks> SCHAAP137, did you overclock?
[19:41] <csb> Dumle29, You can run Windows inside a Virtual Machine (which is running inside Ubuntu) and do stuff from there.
[19:41] <Dumle29> csb: Sure, but that's. ehh. I think I'll have to go that way though
[19:41] <neurot> Dumle29 http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu
[19:41] <neurot> got to love google
[19:42] <ryan_461> n  urr
[19:42] <Dumle29> neurot: Thanks. Didn't find that one when looking around.
[19:42] <neurot> Dumle29 its cool
[19:42] <neurot> :-)
[19:43] <OerHeks> neurot, useless, no candidates for 15.04
[19:43] <Dumle29> OerHeks: The method for 14.04 should work
[19:43] <dale> on 15.04 my applications free the system when I drag them across workspaces, if I switch them using the commands (move right, move left, etc.) they work okay?
[19:43] <dawnson> is there a way to install ubuntu server on a remote computer without mouse/keyboard? via ssh maybe?
[19:43] <urandom-dev> yep
[19:44] <dale> that's freeze, not free
[19:44] <dawnson> because the installer does not detect any keyboards we have. and i have tested 8.
[19:44] <neurot> http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html that is what i was loooking at
[19:44] <neurot> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight
[19:44] <neurot> sudo apt-get update
[19:44] <neurot> sudo apt-get install winusb
[19:44] <Dumle29> neurot: I did manage to get winusb installed before though, by getting the saucy deb package, and installing it manually, but: http://imgur.com/o7exWst
[19:44] <urandom-dev> dawnson: the process is tricky, but there's some documentation online
[19:45] <Dumle29> neurot: Won't work, there's no PPA for 15.04
[19:45] <dawnson> urandom-dev: alternatively i would like to have my usb keyboards working during setup if that is easier :D
[19:45] <OerHeks> Dumle29, no, you have to change trusty to vivid > sudo sh -c "sed -i 's/vivid/saucy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/colingille-freshlight-trusty.list
[19:45] <urandom-dev> dawnson: you basically pre-answer the questions in a config and install from whatever you're booting off of
[19:45] <OerHeks> still a bad idea
[19:45] <Dumle29> OerHeks: Yeah
[19:45] <dawnson> urandom-dev: that would work great
[19:46] <urandom-dev> dawnson: it used to be pretty tricky. I used it to setup a headless machine back in the day of 10.04. let me see if i can dig up the docs for you
[19:47] <dawnson> i have found one that assumes that you have access to a system currently running ubuntu :s
[19:47] <xor_ax_ax> Dumle29, http://askubuntu.com/questions/116885/can-i-use-ubuntu-to-write-a-windows-7-iso-to-usb/363630#363630
[19:48] <xor_ax_ax> it avoids any extraneous packages
[19:48] <xor_ax_ax> well, aside from grub i suppose....
[19:48] <urandom-dev> dawnson: oh, i forgot -- it's easy now
[19:48] <dawnson> it is? :D
[19:49] <dawnson> it looks like i need to create a kickstart file
[19:49] <dawnson> which i maybe simply need to copy to the installer usb stick
[19:50] <dawnson> but i dont know how to create such a file on os x :o
[19:50] <dawnson> hm maybe that tool is available on archlinux
[19:50] <urandom-dev> dawnson: i believe the process is to make a usb with persistence enabled, setup ssh and ssh into the headless after booting up from the usb
[19:52] <Dumle29> xor_ax_ax: Thanks :)
[19:53] <TJ-> dawnson: were all the keyboards you tried USB?
[19:53] <dawnson> TJ-: yes, i dont have any other option on this pc
[19:53] <dawnson> no PS2
[19:54] <TJ-> dawnson: and are you trying them on different USB ports in case 1 port is dead?
[19:54] <dawnson> yes
[19:54] <TJ-> dawnson: Have you enabled 'Legacy USB' in BIOS?
[19:54] <dawnson> all ports working fine, i can even boot from every usb port
[19:54] <dawnson> yes
[19:54] <dawnson> i can select the boot option from the usb stick
[19:54] <TJ-> dawnson: which release of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[19:54] <dawnson> but then at the language select option nothing works anymore
[19:54] <dawnson> 15.04 server
[19:55] <dawnson> ive had this issue with every server release since at least 12.10
[19:55] <dawnson> on all of my pcs
[19:55] <dawnson> it works just fine with ubuntu desktop though but i dont want all that
[19:55] <dawnson> i just want ubuntu server on there :)
[19:57] <TJ-> dawnson: in the installer boot screen, you can use F6 I think to  edit the kernel command-line. I'm wondering if one of the ACPI sub-options might help. Can you tell me the make/model of the system?
[19:58] <dawnson> it is the newest i5 Intel NUC
[19:58] <dawnson> let me get the box and i can tell you more
[19:58] <acz32> any benefits to using kubuntu instead of ubuntu and installing the DE through the package manager?
[19:58] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Can you only use your keyboard in X from the Ubuntu desktop CD? It's odd that your keyboard would work in what but not the other, given that they share the same core.
[19:59] <TJ-> acz32: avoiding Unity, getting to choose your desktop layout :)
[19:59] <dawnson> Jordan_U: yes, i can, but i want ubuntu server on there as it will be running a headless plex server
[19:59] <Jordan_U> acz32: If I undestood your question right, one advantage is that you're left with only Kubuntu packages, rather than having a lot of non-kubuntu packages taking space, update bandwidth, and cluttering your menus.
[19:59] <dawnson> TJ-: Intel NUC NUC5i5RYH
[20:00] <Jordan_U> dawnson: I mean can you switch to another tty from the Desktop DVD/USB and does your keyboard work there if you do?
[20:00] <N3X15> acz32, despite whatever the website says, Kubuntu 15.x is far from stable, so stick to 14.x
[20:00] <dawnson> Jordan_U: yes
[20:01] <dawnson> TJ-: it is an i5-5250U according to lscpu
[20:01] <dawnson> not sure if you need any more information
[20:01] <TJ-> dawnson: I'm reading hints that there are problems with APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller) ... you could try "noapic" on the kernel command line
[20:01] <dawnson> it is currently running archlinu but the plex server package has some problems there and ubuntu is officially supported
[20:01] <dawnson> TJ-: i will try that, one moment
[20:02] <acz32> N3X15: is all 15.x unstable or just 15.2 which it shipped with? i heard 15.3 is better
[20:02] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Wouldn't you expect such a problem to affect all flavors of Ubuntu equally though?
[20:02] <acz32> well somoene could just to a minimal ubuntu install and choose the DE in the install process
[20:02] <dawnson> TJ-: i add that to the linux line? after "quiet ---"?
[20:02] <N3X15> acz32, all I know is that I've been unable to edit settings for KDE on two seperate installations and the non-breeze themes are just totally broken
[20:02] <TJ-> dawnson: Jordan_U: Might be a BIOS config issue - I was going to suggest doing a BIOS load factory defaults
[20:03] <dawnson> it is all factory default, i just got this pc yeterday :)
[20:03] <TJ-> dawnson: Yes... but unless there is something special you've set in BIOS I'd strongly recommend trying BIOS default settings first
[20:03] <dawnson> well except for disabling bios boot, it is going to be efi only
[20:03] <TJ-> dawnson: The thing is, NVRAM can get weird settings in it and only a factory reset will clear them
[20:03] <acz32> N3X15: ya i've heard a lot of complaints. i use debian which has kde 4.x
[20:03] <dawnson> noapic does not work either
[20:04] <N3X15> Also, I'm considering just dropping KDE altogether since their developers would rather bicker over politics rather than fix serious issues
[20:05] <dawnson> N3X15: thats why i am using gnome 3 until papyros-shell is ready :)
[20:05] <N3X15> dawnson, I highly doubt that will ever happen, given the current glacial pace of development with them.
[20:06] <N3X15> You'd be better off asking Valve to made a DM.
[20:06] <dawnson> why? first beta is due to be released soon and i am running the development version on my laptop
[20:06] <dawnson> oh valve has already done that, it is powering steamOS which i am also running :P
[20:06] <Jordan_U> !ot | N3X15 dawnson
[20:07] <acz32> N3X15: i switched to kde from using a wm only. i just like it because it is the most customisable de
[20:07] <dawnson> hmm is it possible to mount a "write protected" partiotn as rw?
[20:07] <acz32> i know nothing about the politics behind the team
[20:08] <Jordan_U> dawnson: How is it "write protected"?
[20:08] <dawnson> Jordan_U: i am not sure, it is the ubuntu server installation usb stick
[20:09] <dawnson> it says mount: /dev/sdb1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[20:09] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Did you use dd to prepare the USB?
[20:09] <dawnson> Jordan_U: yes
[20:09] <dawnson> i want to edit some files so i dont need the keyboard during setup
[20:09] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Then it's a read-only iso9660 filesystem. You can't modify it without re-creating the entire FS.
[20:10] <dawnson> hm
[20:10] <dawnson> then it will be a lot harder than i expected
[20:10] <dawnson> how am i supposed to do that? :(
[20:11] <Jordan_U> dawnson: What files are you trying to edit?
[20:11] <Jordan_U> dawnson: If you use a tool like USB startup disk creator or Unetbootin you will get a fat32 filesystem rather than iso9660.
[20:11] <dawnson> the /isolinux/langlist file for example
[20:12] <dawnson> but unetbootin does not support efi boot
[20:15] <Jordan_U> dawnson: I think that the resulting USB drive will boot via UEFI, simply by virtue of having a /EFI/BOOTX64.efi on a fat32 partition. If not, then ensure that you're using GPT and mark the fat32 partition as an EFI System Partition and it should definitely work.
[20:17] <samthewildone> Trying to launch samba but get this error > http://pastebin.com/LDsYYe3Y
[20:17] <samthewildone> also this is a fresh install of 15.04 fully upgraded.
[20:18] <dawnson> hmm ok i will try it then with unetbootin
[20:18] <samthewildone> Also I cannot launch "samba" when entered into dash
[20:18] <dawnson> i can also add the storage option, is it easy to enable ssh from there?
[20:18] <Ben64> samthewildone: that is not how to start it.
[20:18] <dawnson> not sure if that will work with ubuntu server though
[20:18] <k1l_> samthewildone: that is not the way you launch it
[20:18] <k1l_> samthewildone: its a background service. not a program like firefox.
[20:18] <Ben64> samthewildone: sudo service samba start
[20:19] <k1l_> samthewildone: sudo systemctl start smbd
[20:20] <k1l_> Ben64: its all systemd now, dont know if the upstart service scripts still work
[20:20] <samthewildone> https://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/filesharing-in-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[20:20] <Ben64> k1l_: d'oh
[20:20] <samthewildone> I'm trying to setup samba... so how can start it without configuring anything yet ?
[20:21] <k1l_> samthewildone: nautilus can handle samba shares. just browse the network
[20:23] <invitado> Hola
[20:23] <kris27mc> Hi
[20:23] <invitado> como estan
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> !es | invader
[20:26] <dawnson> unetbootin doesnot recognise my usb sticks >_>
[20:26] <dawnson> why doesnt ubuntu server support the same input devices as the desktop version?
[20:26] <samthewildone> So I see my workgroup in nautilus but, what username and password do I use ?
[20:27] <samthewildone> Since I don't have username on windows where do I go from here ?
[20:27] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Use Gparted to create a new partition table on them, be sure to use GPT, then create a single FAT32 partition and give it the "bootable" flag (or whatever GParted calls giving a partition the appropriate GUID for an EFI System Partition).
[20:27] <bekks> samthewildone: Ask your Windows administrator.
[20:28] <samthewildone> I am the admin
[20:28] <bekks> samthewildone: Then you should know your Windows credentials.
[20:29] <kris27mc> I'm running Ubuntu Studio 15.04 and I'm attempting to install Spotify. I need "libgcrypt.so.11" but it isn't in the Vivid repository. Is it safe to add an older repo, like Trusty? There's a newer package called "libgcrypt.so.20" but it's incompatible. So is it safe to add an old repo or is there a safe source?
[20:29] <dawnson> Jordan_U: ah, thanks
[20:29] <Ben64> kris27mc: no
[20:30] <kris27mc> So there's no way to get the package? Or?
[20:30] <samthewildone> bekks, I'm able to login but, only see two folders, "ADMIN$" & "C$"
[20:30] <Ben64> kris27mc: i don't know, but you should not mix versions
[20:30] <samthewildone> when I try to access these folders it says "password required for share admin$ on blackbird"
[20:31] <xangua> kris27mc: you can also use spotify on a web browser (uses flash)
[20:31] <samthewildone> bekks, I'm all out of passwords... ^
[20:31] <samthewildone> bekks, when I try to connect as anonymous the gui freezes.
[20:33] <TJ-> samthewildone: check "/var/log/samba/log.<ip-address-of-server>" for indications of the problem
[20:34] <Ben64> samthewildone: why are you trying to access ADMIN$
[20:35] <bekks> samthewildone: Did you create a regulary share yet?
[20:35] <samthewildone> TJ-, I already did, first time it say's I was missing a ucommon-utilus ... installed it and did a cat of the log.
[20:36] <samthewildone> Ben64, well once I logged into WORKGROUP there were only two folders.
[20:36] <abel> hola!
[20:36] <bekks> samthewildone: So create a regular share on the windows side.
[20:36] <samthewildone> Here's the log > http://pastebin.com/YuWGbirg
[20:37] <OerHeks> kris27mc, known issue >http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/fix-missing-libgcrypt11-causing-spotify.html
[20:37] <samthewildone> brb doing a recommended restart
[20:37] <TJ-> samthewildone: The Windows PC has at least 1 user-defined shared active, does it?
[20:39] <samthewildone> TJ-, what were you saying ?
[20:39] <dawnson> why does the image contain a full jdk but not the same usb keyboard support as the desktoop iso? oO
[20:39] <TJ-> samthewildone: The Windows PC has at least 1 user-defined shared active, does it?
[20:40] <samthewildone> TJ-, idk
[20:40] <TJ-> dawnson: You fixed it?
[20:40] <dawnson> still creating a unetbootin stick
[20:40] <samthewildone> TJ-, all I want to do is share my videos folder
[20:40] <Jordan_U> dawnson: I would expect it to have the same USB support, which is why I'm so surprised that you get different results with the different flavors.
[20:40] <dawnson> so i can edit a simple text file on the installer >_>
[20:40] <bekks> samthewildone: So create a share.
[20:40] <samthewildone> our at least "My Documents" folder
[20:40] <dawnson> Jordan_U: it does not, or at least the installer doesnt
[20:40]  * samthewildone smashes his head against the comp
[20:41] <sor_> not sure if this is a bug I typically don't run ubuntu (LFS is my main box) so i am not sure if it's a config issue -- anyway on a laptop with unity hooked up to a tv -vga- when i turn the laptop display off and the computer suspends It can't wake up the tv
[20:41] <dawnson> there a year old bugs that get closed every time because it wont be fixed in this release and then someones the bug for the next release and they ask for the same information again and it starts all over
[20:41] <sor_> any thoughts
[20:43] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Is there a bug report filed about this particular problem?
[20:43] <dawnson> Jordan_U: i found 2 or 3 for older ubuntu version the last time i searched
[20:43] <dawnson> after about 3+ hours of research
[20:43] <dawnson> so they are a bit hard to find, but if i should come across them i can send you the link
[20:44] <dawnson> unfortunately i have to work at the moment, while also trying to get this stupid release to install :D
[20:44] <kris27mc> I solved the problem using wget and dpkg. Thanks for the help
[20:45] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Another option for installing would be to boot from a LiveCD/USB, install kvm, then run "sudo kvm -hda /dev/sdX -cdrom /path/to/ubuntu-server.iso". Then you would just have to ensure that you don't mount any of the partitions on your internal drive during the installation.
[20:46] <amari> How do I configure a slideshow for the background in Unity?
[20:47] <dawnson> jmmm
[20:47] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Probably want to add a "-boot d" to that kvm command so that it boots from the server iso rather than your internal drive.
[20:47] <dawnson> Jordan_U: that way i would need a live stick that also includes the iso file, right? >_>
[20:47] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Correct.
[20:47] <dawnson> hm. why is this so complicated? T_T
[20:48] <dawnson> editing the file on the unetbootin stick did not seem to work
[20:48] <Jordan_U> dawnson: What file did you edit, and what change did you make?
[20:48] <dawnson> i changed /isolinux/langlist to only include the line en
[20:49] <dawnson> which should skip the language select option
[20:49] <Jordan_U> dawnson: When booting via UEFI you're using grub, not isolinux.
[20:49] <dawnson> hm
[20:49] <dawnson> hm hm hm
[20:49] <dawnson> then i need new instructions on how to make the installer unattended from OS X
[20:50] <dawnson> or from archlinux
[20:52] <dawnson> unfortunately it wants me to install the system-config-kickstart package which is not available on archlinux or for os c
[20:52] <dawnson> *x
[20:52] <dawnson> can someone install it and create a kickstart file for me with this command? >_> system-config-kickstart
[20:52] <weet> i thought you meant a kickstarter campaign
[20:52] <weet> i was like wat
[20:53] <dawnson> hm
[20:53] <dawnson> it looks like it is more complicated than that
[20:53] <dawnson> i would also have to generate a preseed file somehow
[20:53] <dawnson> it cant be that complicated.. it is easier for both os x and windows!
[20:55] <MrDoctor> Is there a unity backports ppa for ubuntu 14.04?
[20:56] <Reaperious> Sup ?
[20:56] <Jordan_U> dawnson: There is a kickstart file posted in the third answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122505/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu
[20:56] <dawnson> Jordan_U: thanks, but how to i generate the preseed file from os x?
[20:57] <traekili> os x?
[20:57] <dawnson> mac os x
[20:57] <bekks> dawnson: Install an Ubuntu VM and do it inside the VM.
[20:58] <Jordan_U> dawnson: The same post includes a full preseed file as well. (I haven't verified the correctness of either files).
[20:58] <dawnson> bekks thats a bit complicated and also i am not allowed to install a virtualisation software on my company laptop :p
[20:58] <dawnson> hmm
[20:58] <samthewildone> bekks, I got it to work but how I am I able to view my ubuntu files on windows now ?
[20:58] <dawnson> i cant find the preseed file there
[20:58] <bekks> dawnson: But you are allowed to runArchlinux and OSX on your company laptop?
[20:59] <dawnson> bekks: no, archlinux is running on the pc i want to install ubuntu on
[20:59] <samthewildone> I'm able to see my computer in windows but cannot connect to it or browse
[20:59] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Search for "The key differences are setting this as the preseed file:".
[20:59] <bekks> samthewildone: Install samba, and create a share.
[20:59] <samthewildone> on win?
[20:59] <samthewildone> duh...
[20:59] <dawnson> Jordan_U: ah so the preseed file is just a text file as well?
[20:59] <bekks> samthewildone: No. On Ubuntu.
[20:59] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Yes.
[21:00] <dawnson> oh.
[21:00] <dawnson> thanks :D
[21:00] <dawnson> will see if that gets me somewhere
[21:00] <Jordan_U> dawnson: You're welcome :)
[21:00] <samthewildone> bekks, thats the problem !
[21:00] <samthewildone> bekks, I did install it but, it won't launch
[21:00] <bekks> samthewildone: Did you configure it?
[21:00] <samthewildone> bekks, it keeps giving me an error, I'm unable to configure it.
[21:01] <Jordan_U> dawnson: If not, the kvm method will definitely work, just be sure to install ssh in the VM before trying to reboot in case your keyboard doesn't work in the installed system either.
[21:01] <bekks> samthewildone: Which error prevents you from opening the config file with a text editor?
[21:01] <samthewildone> ok configuring
[21:01] <samthewildone> *oh
[21:01] <samthewildone> bekks, which file do I edit ?
[21:02] <samthewildone> bekks, can I pm you ?
[21:04] <bekks> samthewildone: So I take that as "no I did not even try to configure samba yet".
[21:05]  * samthewildone runs from bekks 
[21:05] <samthewildone> bekks, nope
[21:05] <samthewildone> bekks, I'm relying on the gui application.
[21:05] <bekks> Forget that GUI.
[21:05] <samthewildone> bekks, that doesn't seem to work
[21:05] <bekks> samthewildone: Did you read this already?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[21:06] <samthewildone> bekks, a while back... yes
[21:07] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+package/system-config-samba
[21:13] <dawnson> Jordan_U: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244176
[21:13] <kuba7447> what is the best python IDE ???
[21:14] <traekili> idle
[21:14] <Reaperious> kuba7447 have you checked out Eclipse ?. Im not sure, but i think that covers most of things ?
[21:15] <kuba7447> what about ninja-ide ?
[21:15] <kuba7447> i did tried eclipse for java
[21:15] <Reaperious> <--- Cant program, so i realy dont know.
[21:15] <brainwash_> !best
[21:15] <Reaperious> I want to learn, but never had the gutts to do it
[21:15] <kuba7447> <------ same
[21:16] <kuba7447> i want to start with python
[21:16] <brainwash_> then ask in #python please
[21:16] <traekili> they are helpful there btw
[21:16] <kuba7447> ok, thanks
[21:16] <smamir> ping!
[21:17] <kuba7447> #python dosent work
[21:17] <smamir> Can I get help with something?
[21:17] <traekili> ##python
[21:18] <kuba7447> it says "unregistered"
[21:18] <traekili> needs one more octothorpe
[21:18] <Reaperious> Must register you nick at freenode, i dont know annything more than that. Just checked myself
[21:18] <bekks> !register | kuba7447
[21:20] <smamir> guys! little help here?
[21:20] <Jordan_U> dawnson: What version of Ubuntu server are you trying to install?
[21:21] <dawnson> Jordan_U: 15.04
[21:21] <traekili> is 15
[21:21] <traekili> an lts
[21:21] <dawnson> idk and idc
[21:21] <dawnson> i want the newest one
[21:21] <Jordan_U> traekili: No, Ubuntu 15.04 is not an LTS release.
[21:22] <dawnson> and yes, i have tried the lts one as well
[21:22] <Jordan_U> dawnson: From reading that bug report, that particular bug is fixed in Ubuntu 15.04. You may be hitting a different, if similar, bug.
[21:22] <genii> traekili: All even numbered releases ending with .04 are LTS
[21:22] <dawnson> Jordan_U: but the last comment says that it is still in 15.04?
[21:23] <traekili> ok thank you Jordan_U and genii
[21:23] <dawnson> also i am not sure what exactly is causing this, but i have had the same symptoms for yeats
[21:23] <Jordan_U> dawnson: "Still not working with the 06-Jun-2015 Trusty Netboot installer." Trusty is Ubuntu 14.04.
[21:23] <dawnson> oh
[21:23] <Reaperious> I want to help ubuntu in some way, programming or annything. But i cant program :(
[21:23] <dawnson> well it is not working in 15.04 fo rme :D
[21:24] <melvin> Does anyone know what repository i should use for Wireless Intel adapter 7260?
[21:24] <gregL> smamir I doubt anyone will acknowledge you with out a question first... It's best to ask your question and if anyone knows the answer they will chime in...
[21:24] <melvin> "driver"
[21:24] <Jordan_U> !contribute | Reaperious
[21:25] <smamir> thanks gregL :)
[21:25] <gregL> np
[21:25] <TJ-> dawnson: does this always affect the same PC, or lots of different PCs ?
[21:26] <dawnson> TJ-: at least 4 different machines i can remember
[21:26] <dawnson> i self build desktop c, 2 different generation intel NUCs and one dell XPS 13
[21:27] <smamir> The name of months and days in calendar are by default showing in my local language. Can I reverse it back to English? I'm using 14.04
[21:29] <gregL> smamir http://askubuntu.com/questions/288346/how-do-i-change-the-calendar-language
[21:29] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Were you using the same keyboard for most of these machines?
[21:30] <dawnson> Jordan_U: i tried multiple keyboards on them all. for the XPS the built in one worked afair
[21:30] <dawnson> i tried several cheap and not so cheap logitech ones, wired and with a usb dongle as well as some razor and roccat ones
[21:33] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Your problem likely is caused by needing a kernel module which is available in /lib/modules/ but isn't included in the initramfs. That would explain why the installer failes but the Live system doesn't. That would mean that once installed, Ubuntu server would work with your keyboard.
[21:33] <Guest9568> can anyone here vouch for boot-repair? I ran ntfsfix on my Windows 8 drive and now I can't boot to it
[21:33] <Jordan_U> Guest9568: Use Windows' chkdsk for repairing ntfs filesystems.
[21:34] <dawnson> Jordan_U: yes, (but the deskop installer works fine as well), thats what i am trying to do. I hope that the installer stick i am creating now will work correctly. previously i had edited a wrong file and overwritten the values in there, now i have to start over
[21:34] <dawnson> unfortunately it takes forever, because the image includes a lot of crap i dont need
[21:35] <Jordan_U> dawnson: The desktop installer uses a full root filesystem rather than staying within the initramfs, that's why it works.
[21:35] <__Myst__> Why does setting $DISPLAY to "localhost:0.0" case an infinite log-in loop?
[21:35] <dawnson> Jordan_U: and why are these not included in the initramfs?
[21:35] <__Myst__> Every time I try to log-in It sends me back to the log-in screen
[21:35] <__Myst__> Removing the "export DISPLAY='localhost:0.0'" line fixed it.
[21:35] <__Myst__> Halp?
[21:36] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Oversight most likely.
[21:36] <dawnson> Jordan_U: any ideas if/when this might get changed?
[21:36] <k1l_> __Myst__: is that a setting that should work at all?
[21:37] <__Myst__> k1l_: I wanted to set $DISPLay for feh
[21:38] <__Myst__> Cause feh doesn't set my display when I run it from cron
[21:38] <Jordan_U> dawnson: If you can figure out what module needs to be added to support your hardware and file a bug report with that information it should be a one line fix (which wouldn't immediately take affect in the installation media).
[21:38] <k1l_> __Myst__: i dont think the xserver is listening for tcp connections at all
[21:38] <dawnson> hmm no idea what that would be
[21:39] <__Myst__> k1l_: How do I change my wallpaper periodically then?
[21:39] <__Myst__> Also, what is ctrl+alt+f1 useful for?
[21:39] <__Myst__> I mean, I just used it to remove that line from my .bashrc; But I see no other use.
[21:39] <k1l_> __Myst__: ctrl+alt+f1 is tty1
[21:40] <k1l_> __Myst__: what desktop are you running?
[21:40] <__Myst__> k1l_: Yeah, I know it's a terminal. But whatis its purp?
[21:40] <__Myst__> purpose
[21:40] <Jordan_U> dawnson: If you can figure out how to do so without the keyboard working, running "lsmod" in the initramfs then again after switching to the full filesystem (with the keyboard then working) and comparing the two it would proably be obvious which additional module relates to your USB keyboard.
[21:40] <__Myst__> k1l_: I3 is what my WM is. is that related?
[21:40] <k1l_> __Myst__: of course its related if you ask about trouble with setting the wallpeper
[21:40] <k1l_> *paper
[21:40] <__Myst__> k1l_: I'm running i3.
[21:41] <dawnson> yes, but how can i run lsmod without the keyboard working? its an egg/henn problem, isnt it?
[21:41] <k1l_> but if you know everything and just rant about stuff you dont understand i loose motivation to help you
[21:41] <__Myst__> k1l_: me?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> dawnson: You could pass "init=/sbin/lsmod" as a kernel parameter, which will cause lsmod to be run (followed by a kernel panic when it exits :).
[21:43] <__Myst__> KernelPanic? What's that?
[21:44] <TJ-> dawnson: You can break inside the initrd, using "break=XXXX" on the kernel command-line, where XXXX is some place to break
[21:44] <traekili> init=/bin/bash ?
[21:45] <TJ-> dawnson: to discover the active XXXX options you can choose do: "grep maybe_break /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init"
[21:45] <traekili> then lsmod
[21:45] <dawnson> hm
[21:45] <TJ-> dawnson:  I'd suggest "break=modules"
[21:45] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Then how would dawnson run lsmod, given that they at that point will have no ability to use their keyboard? For some background, we think that their keyboard requires a kernel module that is included in /lib/modules/ but is not included in their initramfs, and we want to figure out what module that is.
[21:45] <xmount> so im new to web developing and would like to learn how and know what the best way to learn it is?
[21:46] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Actually, from archlinux (or an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB) on the system in question please run "lspci -k" and "lsusb".
[21:46] <dawnson> ok, one moment
[21:46] <TJ-> Jordan_U: At that point, if dawnson is lucky, the BIOS Legacy USB driver will still be active
[21:46] <dawnson> i finish up the usb stick then walk over and run the command and try to set it
[21:46] <dawnson> TJ-: it is active
[21:49] <dawnson> Jordan_U: how do i get the output to you from that machine? :s
[21:49] <dawnson> is there a way to pipe it to pastebin or something?
[21:51] <dawnson> hmmm it looks like that might work
[21:51] <Jordan_U> dawnson: "lspci -k | pastebinit" or "lspci -k | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us".
[21:53] <TJ-> Sorry; GPU died, grrr.
[21:54] <dawnson> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[21:54] <dawnson> err
[21:54] <dawnson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11692598
[21:54] <Guest53970> #ubuntu-ru
[21:55] <leafybasil> clear
[21:55] <dawnson> Jordan_U: it currently looks like the automated setup might work
[21:59] <josias> boa noite
[22:00] <Jordan_U> dawnson: OK, you're not using ohci-pci, which confirms that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244176 doesn't apply to you. You are using xhci_hcd, xhci_pci, ehci-pci, and ehci_pci. I'm checking to see if all of those are included in the initramfs by default now.
[22:01] <josias> BOA NOITE. ALGUÉM ONLINE?
[22:01] <k1l_> !br | josias
[22:02] <Zack263> do u guys have an egg timer that will beep or go off on screen... in the ubuntu store?
[22:02] <Jon__> Hey all :)
[22:02] <Zack263> Hi Jon!
[22:03] <Jon__> Im thinking of installing Ubuntu on my workstation, but im not sure if i should go with server or desktop
[22:03] <Jon__> Is server just desktop without Gnome/KDE/etc?
[22:03] <Zack263> Well server doesn't have the GOOY interface
[22:03] <Zack263> its all text
[22:03] <Jon__> Hm
[22:03] <Zack263> if your new to Linux I would go for ubuntu
[22:03] <Zack263> not the server
[22:03] <Zack263> and I would put knoppix on a flash stick to boot to for fun
[22:03] <Jon__> Im pretty good with linux actually - using it for years :)
[22:04] <Zack263> hmmm
[22:04] <dawnson> hmm the automated installer does not seem to work as i expected
[22:04] <Jon__> One time even, no jokes, installed Gentoo from stage 1
[22:04] <Zack263> well the question is are u content with terminal only?
[22:04] <Jon__> But im older now, and I dnot get any satisfaction in making my life harder than need be
[22:04] <Jon__> Yeah sure :)
[22:04] <Zack263> what are you gonna do with your linux machine?
[22:04] <k1l_> Jon__: the server got the same kernel and packages, just not an installed desktop. so it boots up to a tt1
[22:04] <k1l_> *tty
[22:05] <Jon__> I write javascript software to crunch numbers in Biology
[22:05] <Zack263> oh well I would use the gooy
[22:05] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Commit 9bc3a784 added xhci-pci to the list of modules, so now I'm looking to see if that commit made it into Ubuntu 15.04.
[22:05] <Jon__> yeah you're probably right
[22:05] <Jon__> less headaches down the road
[22:06] <Jon__> k1l_:  ah ok, simple enough differnce
[22:06] <Jon__> I guess i can always install KDE or whatever later right?
[22:06] <dawnson> Jordan_U: thx
[22:06] <Zack263> i dont think i use kde
[22:06] <Zack263> I think i'm on unity
[22:06] <Zack263> i always forget which one is which
[22:07] <Zack263> or is it called gnome
[22:07] <k1l_> Jon__: yes.
[22:07] <Zack263> lol
[22:07] <Zack263> very confusing all those interfaces
[22:07] <Zack263> kde is more like windows
[22:07] <Zack263> I think my knooppix disk has kde
[22:07] <Zack263> I'm not new to linux but i am new
[22:08] <Zack263> I finally took a deeper dive into it
[22:08] <Zack263> to find out that its easier than windows
[22:08] <Zack263> i think
[22:08] <dawnson> i think my issue is that the preseed file tries to install ubuntu on /dev/sda but /dev/sda is the usb stick if i boot from it. is that possible?
[22:08] <Zack263> if i look up instructions for ubuntu stuff it usually works
[22:08] <Zack263> not so much for windows
[22:09] <Zack263> I'm not really an ubuntu expert dawnson to help you.
[22:09] <Zack263> I usually use a special program to install linux distro to a flash stick
[22:10] <Zack263> if thats what your trying to do
[22:10] <bekks> I usually just use dd to put Ubuntu onto a stick.
[22:10] <Zack263> dd?
[22:10] <bekks> dd.
[22:10] <dawnson> no, i want to install ubuntu server without any inut because my keyboard does not work during setup
[22:11] <Zack263> I don't know dawson its a little over my skill level for ubuntu
[22:12] <Jordan_U> Would someone running Ubuntu 15.04 please pastebin the contents of /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions ? It will save me some time looking for the package and extracting it manually.
[22:12] <Amm0n> dawnson, you got grub2 on this machine?
[22:12] <xmount> im looking to learn web development anybody have any advice?
[22:12] <dawnson> Amm0n: no, it is currently running archlinux with gummiboot
[22:13] <Zack263> xmount... "web development" is a wide open area
[22:13] <Guest12955> Hey, why is it that when I jump between a workspace in unity it drags my current open window with it? It's really annoying 0_0
[22:13] <Zack263> xmount  - i'd say focus in on apple 5 or 7 stores....
[22:13] <Zack263> focus in on adobe products maybe
[22:13] <Amm0n> grub2 can boot iso's but i don't know about gummiboot sry
[22:13] <Zack263> but its all preference to wear u want to focus
[22:13] <Guest12955> I hit shift + ctrl + alt + left to jump to the left and it drags my window with it!
[22:14] <Zack263> xmout i also want to do webdevelopment
[22:14] <k1l_> Guest12955: loos the shift
[22:14] <Zack263> but theres so much info and so many areas
[22:14] <k1l_> the shift tells the window to switch the workspace.
[22:14] <Zack263> its very hard to narrow down focus
[22:14] <Guest12955> k1l_ thanks sounds like the problem...
[22:14] <herrkin> hello, has somebody ever worked with a huawei 353s-2 modem? I cant figure out how to comunicate with it. I tried with others and the ports open, I can see 3 ports in dmesg for this modem but when I try to send commands to them the console says the file doesnt exist. have any idea where I can find help with that?
[22:15] <xmount> Zack263, are there tutorials out there that you know about?
[22:15] <k1l_> Guest12955: if you keep holding the super key the shortcuts get explained
[22:16] <xmount> as far as php, html, mysql go
[22:16] <reisio> #php, #html, #mysql
[22:17] <reisio> do yourself a favor and replace the first and last with an alternative, though :)
[22:17] <NightKhaos> Why does the SFTP utility not support reput? I need to provide a solution to resume failed transfers to an SFTP server and I'm having trouble finding a client that will do it on Ubuntu (and if anyone says use rsync, the server is an SFTP server, it doesn't have rsync)..
[22:17] <Guest12955> k1l_ still not working. Changed the shortcut via settings to [alt + arrowkey] and it still drags the current window into the workspace :S
[22:17] <Zack263> xmount i sent you a private message so we dont flood the room on offtopic topic
[22:19] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Ubuntu 15.04 does *not* have xhci-pci included in its initramfs, so that is almost certainly the problem you're hitting. The bug has been fixed upstream in Debian, and therefore will be in the next release of Ubuntu. If you'd like it backported to Ubuntu 15.04 please file a new bug report with "ubuntu-bug initramfs-tools" and say that you are hitting Debian bug #773250 and that you would like the fix applied ...
[22:20] <Jordan_U> ... there to be backported to Ubuntu 15.04, and ask for new install media to be created. (I'm not very hopeful about the request for new install media being granted for a non LTS release).
[22:20] <dawnson> Jordan_U: is there a workaround?
[22:20] <OerHeks> NightKhaos, i believe the server needs resume enabled, clients are usually ready
[22:21] <OerHeks> at least filezilla is
[22:22] <Jordan_U> dawnson: You could unpack the initramfs, add the xhci-pci module to /lib/modules/, then repack it.
[22:22] <dawnson> is that complicated? :D
[22:22] <sireorion> hey everybody... i have maked a big misstake... i have lost my PHP prefix
[22:22] <__Myst__> What is tty1?
[22:23] <NightKhaos> Why does the SFTP utility not support repuOerHeks: man sftp (Ubuntu 14.04), does not support resume. (No reput/put -a). Similarly with CentOS. BSD however has reput support. This is specifically a client problem.
[22:24] <NightKhaos> Apparently Ctrl+A doesnt' work in this IRC client... *sigh* Anyway. OerHeks see above.
[22:25] <ObrienDave> __Myst__, #1 terminal. TTY = TeleTYpe
[22:25] <Jordan_U> dawnson: Somewhat, yes. I may have time tomorrow to make a new initramfs that you could use.
[22:26] <sireorion> is there anyone that can help me with php prefix?
[22:26] <dawnson> Jordan_U: that would be great :) i am trying once more with the automated installer, but if it wont work still then i will give up with this method :D
[22:27] <Guest12955> Hey, why is it that when I jump between a workspace in unity it drags my current open window with it? It's really annoying 0_0 I've changed my shortcut to alt + [arrow] and it's still dragging the top-most window into the new workspace!
[22:28] <__Myst__> ObrienDave: So why #1? What is #2?
[22:29] <schnitz> rehi
[22:30] <schnitz> general question: how does ubunutu / ubuntu cope with changing mainboards 'under its feet'? Both AMD boards, but different sizes / versions.... thinking of just swapping boards... will I need to completely reinstall ubuntu?
[22:30] <reisio> schnitz: no, but you may need to reconfig
[22:30] <schnitz> sure
[22:30] <schnitz> it should still boot though, right...
[22:31] <reisio> schnitz: any onboard devices you're relying on, audio, graphics, etc., disk controllers
[22:31] <reisio> it may well still boot
[22:31] <reisio> if it doesn't you can fix it from your install media (without reinstalling)
[22:31] <schnitz> of course, no garantuee
[22:31] <schnitz> have no install media... will an ISO do?
[22:31] <reisio> the kernel is very fat, made for lots of hardware
[22:31] <reisio> most any Unixy live OS, yes
[22:31] <schnitz> right
[22:32] <schnitz> seems worth trying... thanks for letting me know :-)
[22:33] <ObrienDave> __Myst__, TTY2
[22:33] <ObrienDave> __Myst__, can do #1 thru 6. iirc
[22:36] <__Myst__> ObrienDave: How do I choose?
[22:37] <dawnson> Jordan_U: do you think adding an insmod line to grup will work?
[22:38] <sarkie> (since no one replied in elementary)  hi all, ive managed to mess up my elementaryos, with nvidia uninstaller and apt-get, so now I've lost network-manager I think so can't connect on it, I'm dual booting with windows, is there a way I can overwrite the installation with the live cd so I don't lose /home and whatever? maybe apt-cdrom?
[22:38] <bekks> sarkie: We have no clue about Elementary OS.
[22:38] <bekks> !elementaryos
[22:38] <bekks> !elementary
[22:38] <ObrienDave> __Myst__, CTRL-ALT F1 thru F6 are the terminal shortcuts
[22:38] <__Myst__> oh okay
[22:39] <__Myst__> What can I use them for?
[22:39] <sarkie> bekks: imagine if it was ubuntu, is it possible?
[22:39] <bekks> sarkie: My imagination is sufficient to magically make Ubuntu out of ElementaryOS.
[22:40] <LavaLampShade> _Guest12955_, silly question, but did you make that window sticky to all windows?
[22:45] <dawnson> :O it is installing the system. i hope it finishes :3
[22:46] <dawnson> so close. but i hope i can fix this one
[22:47] <kokut> hello, anyone knows if clamv is really needed? how can i remove it?
[22:49] <Bashing-om> !virus | kokut
[22:49] <Koyaanis> !linux
[22:52] <reisio> !spam?
[22:52] <reisio> no chance there
[22:52] <reisio> kokut: remove it as with any other app
[22:53] <dionysus69> hey all i have an emergency, first I edited something I shouldnt have in disk util, I changed "identify as" values of the partitions including the root partition and now it drops me to some root of some weird dir, basically I can assume it cant even mount the root partition, so now I booted with the advanced option called "upstard" in the grub menu, how??? what is upstart and how do I change the values back so I can boot regularly???
[22:53] <dionysus69> upstart* i meant
[22:54] <Dumle29> i know nothing, other that I'd just boot with a live CD and revert the things I did in your case
[22:55] <dionysus69> Dumle29: I dont have to boot live cd, I am in the system I could only boot using the upstart option in grub
[22:55] <dionysus69> i dont even know what is upstart before there were only two options, regular and recovery
[22:55] <Dumle29> dionysus69: No idea what that is :P Upstart is the service management system (that they replaced with systemmd in 15.04)
[22:56] <Dumle29> s/systemmd/systemd
[22:56] <dionysus69> well I dont know what upstart is in my case but i have heard about that when I googled
[22:56] <Dumle29> Again. I'd just boot with a live cd (or usb) and fix it from there
[22:56] <dionysus69> can you tell me how you have it there
[22:57] <dionysus69> open disk util
[22:57] <dionysus69> change mount options
[22:57] <dionysus69> what is there written for "identify as"
[22:57] <dionysus69> i ll try selecting the same option i just dont remember which one was by default
[22:57] <Dumle29> For my main disk?
[22:57] <dionysus69> i mean for the root partition yes
[22:58] <dawnson> does the installer write a log file to the disk if an error appears, even if you just reboot the PC without exiting the installer?
[22:58] <dionysus69> do you use efi partition too?
[22:59] <Dumle29> dionysus69: http://imgur.com/5ctMlaS
[23:00] <dionysus69> does it say same for "matches the device with the given uuid" for efi partition?
[23:01] <Dumle29> I'm not entirely sure what you are asking
[23:01] <dawnson> hmmm ok, the installation completed, then i got a "bootin in insecure mode" message and now i have a black screen
[23:01] <dawnson> whee
[23:02] <dionysus69> well your root partition is identiffied by the uuid
[23:02] <dionysus69> thats what it said below the line you deleted in the screenshot
[23:02] <Dumle29> dionysus69: That's just the UUID of my harddisk
[23:02] <dionysus69> ye i know but i changed the indentify option of my own hard dist to something else than uuid
[23:03] <dionysus69> was wondering what i had to put it back to
[23:03] <dionysus69> problem is that i change efi partition too haha
[23:03] <Dumle29> dionysus69: I have 5 options, 4 of which start with /dev/ the one selected in there just starts with UUID
[23:03] <dionysus69> ye will try with that one now
[23:03] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | dawnson Maybe ?
[23:03] <dionysus69> thanks :)
[23:04] <dawnson> hm somehow it worked now
[23:04] <dawnson> i hope it works always now
[23:04] <Bashing-om> dawnson: Is that a YAHHH !
[23:05] <dawnson> let me try a reboot :D
[23:05] <dawnson> then we can get excited
[23:06] <dawnson> but first i will isntall the available updates
[23:08] <userme> hello how do u test mtu on linux
[23:10] <bekks> userme: Just take a look at "ifconfig".
[23:10] <userme> the what mate
[23:12] <userme> thanks mate got it
[23:13] <userme> its telling me a number can i test it for correct size
[23:13] <sixunhuit> Got a question, should I just "ask away"?
[23:13] <teward> sixunhuit: yes, just ask
[23:13] <teward> (don't ask to ask)
[23:14] <userme> u can ping a mtu size but not sure how on linux
[23:14] <bekks> userme: "ping a mtu size"?
[23:14] <bekks> That doesnt make sense.
[23:15] <userme> yeah like on windows u can do open a command and type likw google and a size 1472 and says fragmemted or not
[23:16] <jeremy__> Hello
[23:16] <bekks> userme: So you want to produce packets with a specific MTU size?
[23:17] <userme> in my ps4 downloads going slow and i am trying find correct mtu size on it was 1500 before
[23:18] <TJ-> userme: "ping -M [ do | want | dont]" - see "man ping"
[23:18] <bekks> userme: So just use 1500 if you are using a local network.
[23:18] <darthanubis> userme, are you using ppoe as an internet connection?
[23:19] <userme> ive tried from 1472 upto 1500 and like 2 gigs 4hrs
[23:19] <userme> im on fibre optic
[23:19] <bekks> userme: The PS4 has no fibre optic network interface.
[23:19] <darthanubis> then leave it at 1500. MTU is not your issue
[23:20] <darthanubis> ps4 doesnot need a fibre connection
[23:20] <darthanubis> it's plugged into his lan
[23:20] <bekks> So he has a local network and should not change the MTU of 1500.
[23:20] <darthanubis> right
[23:22] <userme> ps4 to fibre router with ethernet.  on ps4 network settings can set mtu, dns, static ips.  as the downloads was going slow on some sites say use correct mtu like 1472, 1492. 1500. so im on my laptop findin mtu on linux
[23:23] <darthanubis> mtu is not your problem
[23:23] <userme> does speed downloads up if u can find what isp using
[23:24] <darthanubis> no one changes from 1500 since about 2000, maybe 1999
[23:24] <darthanubis> but on fibre, that's the least of your concerns
[23:24] <userme> that ifconfig just said 1500
[23:25] <sixunhuit> I switched to ubuntu recently, and I used to trouble shoot my windows quite often, even if no problem was apparent. I would like to do the same thing : keeping an eye on the logs for example. That doable? I tried but figuring out stuff that should be there from stuff that should be investigated is not yet in my skill set.
[23:25] <__Myst__> Man I love vim
[23:25] <psusi> userme, tracepath will probe the path MTU
[23:25] <__Myst__> I just split a string into three columns and made it a list of cha
[23:25] <__Myst__> rs
[23:25] <__Myst__> ('x', 'y', 'z')
[23:25] <__Myst__> In like three commands
[23:26] <dionysus69> I fixed it, I just had to put mount point at / instead of /mnt/UId etc... not my fault disk util changed it itself while I changed different thing :S
[23:26] <__Myst__> s/[plm]/\0\n/g
[23:26] <TJ-> userme: the MTU is set by the encapsulation used ... if the link is encapsulating in PPPoE then 1492 is the usual setting
[23:26] <psusi> darthanubis, gigabit ethernet supports jumbo frames so a larger mtu there is useful at least for local communications
[23:27] <userme> on my old adsl was 1500 now on fibre saying 1492. 1472.
[23:27] <darthanubis> psusi, yeah, but he is worried about non lan connections If I understand him/her
[23:27] <userme> im a him
[23:27] <psusi> userme, your ISP must be using the stupid pppoe protocol, which adds its own 8 byte header
[23:27] <userme> overheads of 28
[23:28] <psusi> i.e. you have to "dial up" with a username and password to establish internet connectivity
[23:28] <TJ-> userme: yeah, baby jumbo frames aka EFC4638 allowed 1508 for the Ethernet frame so that the PPP payload could be a full 1500
[23:28] <darthanubis> "The normal MTU (Maximum Transmit Unit) value for most Ethernet networks is 1500 Bytes, or 1492 Bytes for PPPoE connections. For some ISPs you may need to reduce the MTU ,but this is rarely required, and should not be done unless you are sure it is necessary for your ISP connection."
[23:28] <userme> there is good program tcp optimizer dont work on linux
[23:28] <darthanubis> last used that in 1997
[23:29] <darthanubis> in windows xp
[23:29] <darthanubis> http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-broadband-fibre-help/50493-fibre-mtu-size.html
[23:29] <darthanubis> cheers
[23:30] <Nothing_Much> I have a question, when will Audacity 2.1.0 be introduced into Ubuntu?
[23:30] <TJ-> userme: Are you on FTTH or VDSL (FTTC) ?
[23:31] <userme> fttc
[23:31] <TJ-> userme: OK so the modem will be using PPP
[23:31] <psusi> Nothing_Much, possibly in 15.10 assuming someone bothers to package it
[23:31] <Nothing_Much> psusi, Blah
[23:35] <sixunhuit> using : sudo reboot results in black lines (with bits of colors) over the ubuntu logo
[23:35] <intek> list
[23:35] <leafybasil> I'm referencing a shell script in a .desktop file to load DWM with some config before hand, for some reason xmodmap and setxkbmap are not being run/applied, anyone know why?
[23:36] <reisio> leafybasil: from within X?
[23:36] <reisio> might need to use DISPLAY=:0 (etc.)
[23:36] <leafybasil> reisio, sorry can you give a bit more detail and I can look it up?
[23:39] <reisio> leafybasil: try: DISPLAY=$(ps aux | egrep -o 'X :[\.0-9]+' | head -1 | cut -d ' ' -f 2) script
[23:40] <asmodai_> hi I'm having an issue with my wallpaper. each time I switch back on my screen forgets the one I set.
[23:40] <leafybasil> sorry reisio i have no idea what that would mean.
[23:40] <reisio> replace 'script' with your script
[23:41] <jeeves_moss> what is the simplest way to jail a user to their home dir?
[23:41] <ObrienDave> lock 'em up ;P
[23:41] <asmodai_> hehe
[23:41] <reisio> jeeves_moss: to what end
[23:41] <asmodai_> remove permissions for that user
[23:41] <leafybasil> reisio, sorry i missed that, i'll give it a whirl shortly
[23:41] <jeeves_moss> I would say slap 'em
[23:41] <jeeves_moss> reisio,
[23:42] <reisio> jeeves_moss: ...uhyeah?
[23:42] <jeeves_moss> reisio, we have some web programmers who are being difficult and claim they want shell access.  The manager is an idoit push over, so I'm being pushed into giving them access.  The last programmer made a MESS out of the OS, so I need to keep them jailed into their home dir (ie. the web root of the project they're working on).
[23:44] <reisio> how'd he make a mess of the OS without root?
[23:45] <leafybasil> reisio, "ps aux | egrep -o 'X :[\.0-9]+' | head -1 | cut -d ' ' -f 2" on it's own returns nothing
[23:45] <jeeves_moss> reisio, they started to reference OS files in their web code, etc.  lets just say I ended up with this mess dropped on my desk.
[23:46] <reisio> leafybasil: then X probably isn't running
[23:46] <asmodai_> anyone?
[23:46] <reisio> jeeves_moss: so they didn't make a mess of the OS, they just told your boss that they needed more access because no workie blah blah?
[23:46] <reisio> asmodai_: I'm a one
[23:47] <leafybasil> reisio, how comes I can use xsetroot and xset ?
[23:47] <asmodai_> lol you sure?
[23:47] <ObrienDave> i'm not any ;P
[23:47] <reisio> leafybasil: probably because X is running
[23:47] <jeeves_moss> reisio, yea. I know this guy is a lazy joke, so I'm being forced to jump through hoops in order to prove he's full of it so I can fire him
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> hi ho
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> hello
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-version.c: 224: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
[23:47] <linuxuz3r> please
[23:48] <linuxuz3r> ive been dealing with so many errors for 2 days now
[23:48] <linuxuz3r> i hope someone can help me
[23:48] <reisio> jeeves_moss: what if he complained about his jail?
[23:48] <jeeves_moss> then I tell him to suck on it.
[23:49] <reisio> couldn't you do that already and save yourself the trouble?
[23:49] <TJ-> linuxuz3r: that looks pretty serious, has the system had bad RAM modules that have caused disk contents to be corrupted?
[23:50] <intek> whats the best way to tell if a harddrive is bad from a live usb
[23:50] <linuxuz3r> no
[23:50] <reisio> intek: try to use it
[23:50] <TJ-> intek: check "/var/log/kern.log" for I/O error reports on the device
[23:50] <reisio> jeeves_moss: apt-cache search jail
[23:50] <intek> it wont allow for install
[23:51] <asmodai_> ahh think i got it. I remember what I did wrong
[23:51] <asmodai_> brb
[23:52] <leafybasil> reisio, you're not making much sense, in the same file, three lines before I can use xsetroot, but I xmodmap does nothing.  Surely X is loaded?
[23:53] <Zack263> are there any free magazine on webdesign or coding in the ubuntu store?
[23:53] <OerHeks> Zack263, no, but there are on fullcirclemagazine
[23:54] <Zack263> oh yes i see it, thanks i'll check it out
[23:54] <reisio> leafybasil: surely
[23:55] <Zack263> i should make a free magazine we need more
[23:55] <Zack263> oh snaps its not free
[23:55] <OerHeks> FCM are all free.
[23:55] <OerHeks> http://fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads/ and http://fullcirclemagazine.org/special-editions/
[23:56] <Zack263> oh.. it says free i was looken at the buy button
[23:57] <reisio> based on this website's code, I'd guess all their information is poor
[23:59] <jeeves_moss> reisio, sorry, system locked up.
[23:59] <linuxuz3r> well it works now
[23:59] <linuxuz3r> xD
[23:59] <reisio> gj