[00:29] <kenvandine> jgdx, yes, content-hub does support picking contacts
[01:57] <hevyhomie> hello anyone there know what this means: build/core/product_config.mk:222: *** Can not locate config makefile for product "cm_condor".  Stop.  ** Don't have a product spec for: 'cm_condor' ** Do you have the right repo manifest?
[07:04] <sturmflut2> good morning
[07:05] <sturmflut2> What exactly is "full shell rotation"? Does that mean that unity8, scopes etc. will also rotate if the device is rotated?
[07:09] <ogra_> sturmflut2, right ... and the panel etc
[07:10] <ogra_> (and ... most importantly, your input gestures)
[07:10] <cedian_linux> I did what jjohansen and ogra_ said, but still gives these errors:
[07:10] <cedian_linux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11694728/
[07:26] <cedian_linux> I did what ogra_ and jjohansen said, but these pastes contain the errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/11694757/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/11694728/
[07:43] <ogra_> cedian_linux, well, you probably want to run something like "make clean" ... though i see you are working on a port for the oneplus, i think there is a semi-workin one already made by mariogrip
[07:43] <cedian_linux> I'm working with mariogrip
[07:44] <ogra_> ah, well, perhaps he can tell you wahts wrong, i know he built the kernel multiple times before (you kind of have to when you do a port)
[07:44] <cedian_linux> Yeah, I know
[08:12] <cedian_linux> ogra_ I've seen the kernel also fails to build on his jenkins server
[08:15] <cedian_linux> can this one be used, already? linux-apparmor-backports
[08:38] <seb128> mzanetti, oh, we have contacts browsing over bluetooth working? I though that was a todo
[08:39] <mzanetti> seb128, I was totally surprised when I saw it
[08:39] <mzanetti> but works fine with my Car
[08:39] <seb128> nice
[08:39] <seb128> need to try that :-)
[08:39] <mzanetti> I think it's working over HFP though
[08:39] <mzanetti> not PBAP
[08:39] <seb128> mzanetti, the "can't pick call" he mentioned is likely bug #1453004
[08:40] <mzanetti> i.e. no contacts pictures and some other advanced features of PBAP not there obviously
[08:40] <seb128> k
[08:40] <mzanetti> but good enough for now I'd say
[08:40] <mzanetti> AVRCP would be more important
[08:40] <seb128> well having the phone numbers and being able to dial one is the most useful part
[08:46] <victor_bq> hi all, does anybody knows if SAP or rSAP is supported already?
[08:47] <victor_bq> or if it will be implemented soon?
[08:54] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: I was already happy when A2DP worked out of the box, didn't even know that AVRCP existed
[08:54] <mzanetti> huh
[08:55] <mzanetti> it's quite odd to pul out the phone, unlock it, go to the music app and skip a song, when your headphones would have a skip button :D
[08:55] <mzanetti> but hey, I can pick up calls with that headphone :D
[08:59] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Ferris Bueller Day! 😃
[09:09] <cotton> hello everyone :) any other news about ota-4 update release date?
[09:09] <cotton> thanks
[09:12] <cedian_linux> I just added a temporary fix to fix errors, I added direct paths for now
[09:13] <cedian_linux> It's compiling more than first
[09:27] <cedian_linux> It looks like it'll work
[10:37] <BonobosSake> Hi i've a problem i made my porting but my phone can't use fastboot so i can't flash with it ...
[10:50] <fooloop> hi guys, does anyone know how to avoid using ubuntu one to install apps on a ubuntu phone? I kind of want to option to not or selectively use the cloud or be able to have opencloud or sommat instead (in the long run, I realise this is not realistic yet)
[10:51] <popey> fooloop: no, you need a U1 account to use the store
[10:51] <fooloop> are there ways to get free apps without the store? Like I dunno, an fdroid for ubuntu? :D
[10:52] <fooloop> basically all I want is a terminal hahaha
[10:52] <fooloop> how is that not standard?? :P
[10:53] <popey> heh
[10:53] <popey> you could grab the source and build the click package yourself
[10:53] <popey> and side load it onto the device
[10:53] <popey> (ugh, I said "side load")
[10:54] <davmor2> popey: you meant moo cow it obviously
[10:55] <fooloop> ok, am new to this phone/ubuntu thing, I have a laptop at home running archlinux.
[10:55] <fooloop> do I build from the phone or from my box and then upload via usb?
[10:55] <popey> there is another way
[10:55] <popey> :)
[10:55] <fooloop> awesome :)
[10:56] <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/2015/06/2015-06-11-050001/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7.74_armhf.click
[10:56] <popey> get that
[10:56] <popey> adb push com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7.74_armhf.click
[10:56] <popey> adb shell
[10:56] <popey> pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted com.ubuntu.terminal_0.7.74_armhf.click
[10:56] <popey> job done.
[10:57] <davmor2> or just create an u1 account install it and done that way you'll get updates for it too :)
[10:57] <fooloop> it better be open, I will want to read what crazy shit I am putting on my device :P
[10:58] <popey> hah
[10:58] <fooloop> yeah I could do that, I don't know what else it decides to do automagically though, does it immediately sync everything?
[10:58] <popey> no
[10:59] <fooloop> [literally just unpacked it pretty much, it still has the plastic sheet on the display]
[10:59] <fooloop> I'll probably run a wireshark on it later today
[10:59] <fooloop> or something
[10:59] <popey> that would be an interesting exerecise.
[11:00] <popey> there's a couple of settings in System Settings -> Security & Privacy you might want to switch off, if you don't want it "Phoning home" or whatever
[11:00] <fooloop> *nods*
[11:00] <fooloop> I will check it out. Hey thanks btw, you're really helpful!
[11:01] <popey> You're welcome.
[11:01] <popey> You caught me on a good day ㋛
[11:01] <fooloop> mind if I lurk here for a bit? I am sure this won't be my last question. Am at work now too so can't do too much about it
[11:01] <popey> sure, everyone is welcome to lurk here
[11:02] <fooloop> cool
[11:02] <sturmflut2> Have we ever had 311 people on this channel before?
[11:02] <popey> dunno, I rarely keep count
[11:03] <sturmflut2> Softpedia: "Ubuntu Phone IRC channel has too many users, internet shut down automatically"
[11:05] <popey> sturmflut2: http://popey.com/~alan/touch/  there you go, instant stats :)
[11:05] <sturmflut2> He has a statistic for everything
[11:05] <sturmflut2> Nerd
[11:06] <popey> ya!
[11:06] <sturmflut2> Haha, I'm in the top 25 twice
[11:07] <DanChapman> lol "mhall119 is a very aggressive person"
[11:08] <sturmflut2> "JamesTait brings happiness to the world"
[11:08] <sturmflut2> absolutely true
[11:08] <sturmflut2> Without him I would never know which day to celebrate
[11:08] <popey> bah, laptop just spontenously rebooted
[11:09] <cedian_linux> I once said sudo reboot, so my laptop rebooted, when I didn't wanted that
[11:09] <JamesTait> sturmflut2, or annoyance - depends whether or not your able to take my tongue-in-cheek greetings in the intended spirit. ☺
[11:09] <JamesTait> *you're
[11:09] <davmor2> popey: oh man now I need to write lines to beat a stupid bot I hate you
[11:10] <popey> :)
[11:10] <davmor2> 1 line down
[11:12] <popey> stupid laptop overheating
[11:12] <sturmflut2> JamesTait: I hope you're only using your secret internet "days of the year" database query skills for good
[11:13] <jgdx> popey, open and force feed it compressed air
[11:13] <ogra_> popey, yours too ?
[11:13] <popey> ya
[11:13] <popey> warm day in uk
[11:13] <ogra_> mine as well, close to unusable since i upgraded it to vivid
[11:13] <fooloop> where in the uk?
[11:13] <JamesTait> sturmflut2, now you've done it - you've gone and planted the seed of an idea.
[11:13] <davmor2> popey: get a north facing office end of issue
[11:13] <popey> fooloop: farnborough
[11:14] <popey> davmor2: true
[11:14] <fooloop> until two weeks back I was in scotland, it was never warm :P
[11:14] <ogra_> psensors shows a constant 69°C while idle :/
[11:14] <popey> haha
[11:14] <sturmflut2> JamesTait: Oh noes :(
[11:14] <davmor2> ogra_: I read that as pensioners had a whole different meaning
[11:14] <ogra_> (opening a browser and evolution keeps it constant at 95°C while idle .... starting to do *anything* on it makes it shut down then ...)
[11:15] <JamesTait> sturmflut2, it's probably OK. I'll never get time to actually work on it, so it'll just fester in the back of my mind and slowly drive me insane. 😉
[11:16] <sturmflut2> JamesTait: You can always play "Don't Crash" to speed up the "going insane" part
[11:16] <davmor2> JamesTait: I'm sorry are you still under the impression that you are sane?
[11:16] <popey> nice pimping :)
[11:17] <davmor2> popey: I thought you just crashed cars if you get to pimp them too I'm all for playing it ;)
[11:17] <popey> :þ
[11:17] <JamesTait> davmor2, it's all relative.
[11:19] <davmor2> JamesTait: That's true, you have kids they might not be insane can we talk to them instead :D
[11:20] <Mirv> niemeyer: any idea if this armhf ftbfs related to missing GLdouble on arm is something that could be fixed in qml.v1 git? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/208829732/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-armhf.ciborium_0.2.12%2B15.10.20150611-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[11:20] <JamesTait> davmor2, it's only a matter of time. 😉
[11:20] <Mirv> (builds on x86)
[11:21] <davmor2> JamesTait: good man you bring them up right and they too can have a nervous tick ;)
[11:21]  * JamesTait twitches
[11:21] <JamesTait> Who? Me?
[11:23] <fooloop> http://notyetthere.org/openstore-tweakgeek-and-more/ <--- anyone looked into this?
[11:24] <jgdx> mpt, hi, checkboxes on the left, to confirm? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhoneApp?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=phone-settings-call-forwarding-some.png
[11:27] <popey> fooloop: yeah, i use it
[11:27] <popey> fooloop: mainly to force the terminal to stay alive when not focussed. works well.
[11:27] <mpt> jgdx, just follow the toolkit default. I’m still working on getting the default position changed. :-)
[11:27] <popey> (tweakgeek that is)
[11:27] <jgdx> mpt, rog
[11:28] <jgdx> mpt, at the very least follow text direction
[11:29] <mpt> jgdx, that’s an independent issue — if they should be on the left in LTR languages then they should be on the right in RTL, and vice versa
[11:29] <fooloop> popey: :)
[11:29] <fooloop> cool, I will have to add that to my list of things to look at
[11:29] <popey> it's handy if you want to leave an ssh session open on your phone
[11:32] <popey> like this http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-06-11-123200.png
[11:32] <popey> :)
[11:34] <davmor2> popey: weirdo
[11:34] <sturmflut2> popey: You can also unlock the phone and use phablet-shell once, it will start an SSH server and set up an ADB port forwarding that stays alive as long as the USB cable is connected
[11:34] <popey> oh nice
[11:34] <sturmflut2> popey: http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/08/hacking-ubuntu-touch-part-5-adb-shell-vs-phablet-shell/ at the bottom
[11:35] <sturmflut2> (I really DO have a blog article for everything)
[11:36] <sturmflut2> Oooh, Calendar app update!
[12:06] <fooloop> hmm Ican't find in my privacy settings to turn off cloud backups ..
[12:13] <fooloop> so accounts is not 'online' accounts.. I guess..
[12:13] <sturmflut2> fooloop: We have cloud backups?
[12:14] <fooloop> I don't know, I am trying to find out whether it does that default every other phone thing of backing up your personals to a cloud server
[12:14] <fooloop> There is a part of the privacy agreement that stipulates 'online accounts' but I can't find a lot about the details
[12:15] <fooloop> It does not feel very transparent but potentially it's just me being thick :/
[12:19] <popey> fooloop: no, we dont backup automatically
[12:20] <fooloop> really? wow..
[12:20] <fooloop> thanks
[12:46] <cedian_linux> virt_to_bus keeps giving errors at ambassador.h http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696011/
[12:48] <cedian_linux> the full code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696018/
[12:49] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: I highly doubt that you need this driver on your phone
[12:49] <cedian_linux> ok thanks
[12:49] <cedian_linux> but what should I do with it, to not compile it?
[12:49] <sturmflut2> I highly doubt you will be needing *any* ATM on your phone
[12:49] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: edit the kernel configuration file or use "make menuconfig"
[12:50] <cedian_linux> menuconfig fails
[12:50] <sturmflut2> which error?
[12:51] <cedian_linux> I'll post it soon
[13:04] <sturmflut2> popey: https://github.com/Sturmflut/ubuntu-html5-webview-template
[13:05] <popey> i see references to pandas :)
[13:05] <sturmflut2> Argh, right
[13:05] <sturmflut2> Saw it at the exact same moment
[13:07] <sturmflut2> fixed
[13:16] <Elleo> kenvandine: heya, I'm wondering if instead of, or possible in addition to the "All" type, we should have an "AllFiles" type? since things like filemanager/files-app that might want to register for all won't want be able to accept or provide things like links
[13:16] <kenvandine> not sure what you mean
[13:16] <kenvandine> oh
[13:16] <kenvandine> i see what you mean
[13:17] <kenvandine> all content != all files
[13:17] <mpt> charles, who is providing the timestamp in <https://launchpadlibrarian.net/206153952/screenshot20151204_001239822.png>?
[13:17] <kenvandine> Elleo, that is much more complicated...
[13:17] <mpt> Is it unity8, or indicator-messages, or something else?
[13:18] <Elleo> kenvandine: yeah, as it doesn't make much sense for the files app to appear in the picker when you're trying to share a link for example
[13:18] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:18] <kenvandine> i see your point
[13:18] <seb128> mpt, trying to open a bug about that?
[13:18] <mpt> seb128, no, it’s from bug 1453689
[13:19] <kenvandine> Elleo, we'd need some mapping of well-known types to files and !files
[13:19] <seb128> mpt, k, I was going to say it's filed ;-)
[13:19] <kenvandine> Elleo, although it won't appear for sharing a link, but it would for opening a link
[13:20] <kenvandine> i didn't add "all" for share handlers
[13:20] <Elleo> ah, right
[13:20] <kenvandine> but we could still run into this
[13:21] <Elleo> alternatively we could actually have files app try to handle those cases, by e.g. saving a text file containing the link or something (same for the text type); not sure that'd be very useful though
[13:21] <kenvandine> the transfer could end up with serialized content, for example renatu wants to send vcards without files
[13:21] <kenvandine> Elleo, it could be for vcards :)
[13:21] <Elleo> yeah
[13:22] <kenvandine> right now he creates a vcard file just for the transfer
[13:22] <kenvandine> that was one of the use cases for the serialized content
[13:22] <kenvandine> but that breaks when trying to send it to a file :)
[13:22] <Elleo> maybe that should be handled in the content-hub
[13:22] <seb128> mpt, it's likely on the right package
[13:23] <Elleo> if an app tries to read the file url from a serialized transfer then content-hub automatically saves it out to a file
[13:23] <kenvandine> Elleo, that was one of the ideas i had for the content store api
[13:23] <kenvandine> saving a content item to a content store
[13:23] <Elleo> ah, cool
[13:23] <kenvandine> would actually save the file
[13:23] <seb128> mpt, libmessaging-menu has apis used by client to add messages, there is a variant which let you specify a timestamp, otherwise it uses the current one
[13:23] <kenvandine> but... that is all just ideas with now plans to implement :)
[13:24] <kenvandine> saving a content item to a store, if it was already a file it would just link it
[13:24] <seb128> mpt, ubuntu-push seems to use the variant without timestamp, so I guess the issue is on the indicator side
[13:24] <kenvandine> if it wasn't, it would write it out to a file
[13:24] <kenvandine> Elleo, i think that would be a very slick feature :)
[13:24] <Elleo> yeah
[13:25] <kenvandine> and the content item knowns the type
[13:26] <seb128> mpt, or maybe the issue is that the messages arrive before midnight but there is a delay in the service
[13:26] <kenvandine> Elleo, i also think it could be cool if the files-app was really a ContentStore browser :)
[13:26] <kenvandine> not a file system browser
[13:26] <kenvandine> but that really needs more thought than we've already put into this
[13:27] <Elleo> kenvandine: not sure entirely what that would entail; would it then be able to browse the contentstores belonging to all the apps?
[13:27] <kenvandine> no... only the ones it had access too
[13:27] <kenvandine> so the user scope for pictures
[13:27] <kenvandine> for example
[13:28] <kenvandine> which would be ~/Pictures
[13:28] <kenvandine> but it could include more
[13:28] <kenvandine> if there was other locations
[13:29] <Elleo> ah, okay; well that's sort of what it does at the moment, only by limiting the browsing to those specific directories rather than retrieving them as content stores, so should be easy to change that mechanism under the hood
[13:29] <kenvandine> Elleo, it would be an abstraction point for the special mount points that the container has
[13:29] <kenvandine> and apps could use them the same way, but restricted to the app scope
[13:29] <kenvandine> so the API would be the same, but filtered by scope
[13:30] <Elleo> right, sounds good
[13:30] <kenvandine> so many ideas... so little time :)
[13:31] <mpt> tedg, hi, did you see this question about the URL dispatcher? There are no replies. <https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg12886.html>
[13:31] <Elleo> heh, yeah
[13:32] <tedg> mpt, I saw it, but it's not a question about the URL dispatcher, it's a question about the webapp container.
[13:32] <tedg> mpt, It is basically "when do my URLs jump out"
[13:32] <tedg> mpt, I don't know the answer :-)
[13:33] <tedg> mpt, I'd be willing to bet that alexabreu probably does though.
[13:34] <alexabreu> tedg, mpt oh that's an oldie, I missed that one ... I'll answer it
[13:35] <alexabreu> tedg, the answer is "when it is asked not to" :) ... basically you can supply a list of patterns that define the set of urls you app is constrained to
[13:40] <mpt> Thanks alexabreu
[13:46] <Mirv> jhodapp: a reminder to put bug #1377015 / https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-41054 patch upstream via their git codereview
[13:46] <jhodapp> Mirv, yeah, it's on my list...just a low priority atm :)
[13:46] <jhodapp> Mirv, thanks for the reminder though
[13:47] <Mirv> jhodapp: no problem
[13:48] <Sleep_Walker> are you aware of problem with ocasional not showing incomming call dialog?
[13:49] <Sleep_Walker> last time happend while I was playing `Machines vs. Machines' (btw. damn addictive and hard game :)
[13:55] <ogra_> Sleep_Walker, there is a bug open for that, and there was a discussion on the ML about it today
[13:55] <Sleep_Walker> OK, another ML to subscribe
[13:55] <ogra_> (though you seem to only be the second person that has seen that issue yet)
[13:56] <Sleep_Walker> I have seen it before update annoyingly often
[13:56] <ogra_> (but perhaps others just dont speak up, who knows)
[13:56] <Sleep_Walker> after update I thought it was fixed but I met it today again
[13:56] <Sleep_Walker> (when my boss called :D )
[13:56] <ogra_> what do you have then, a completely black screen ?
[13:57] <Sleep_Walker> usually just last application is visible
[13:57] <ogra_> you dont use a lock screen ?
[13:57] <Sleep_Walker> I use
[13:57] <Sleep_Walker> btw. I have to unlock it during the call
[13:58] <ogra_> you should just be able to swipe to pick it up
[13:58] <Sleep_Walker> whole dialog just doesn't appear
[13:58] <Sleep_Walker> so no slider to answer/reject the call
[13:58] <ogra_> yes, i meant when it works
[13:58] <ogra_> you shouldnt need to unlock for picking up
[13:58] <Sleep_Walker> ah ok
[14:02] <cedian_linux> do i need nouveau?
[14:04] <cedian_linux> I mean gpu/drm/nouveau and gpu/drm?
[14:12] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, I just posted a new comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~uriboni/webbrowser-app/keyboard-navigation/+merge/260183
[14:13] <heyvhomie> good afternoon/evening. I am trying to port touch to moto e according to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting I am having problems with the build. build/core/product_config.mk:222: *** Can not locate config makefile for product "condor".  Stop.  ** Don't have a product spec for: 'condor' ** Do you have the right repo manifest?
[14:13] <sturmflut2> pmcgowan: I just looked at your "Bug Management" karma and it blew my mind
[14:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: thanks, i will tackle that together with bill's concerns on the find in page
[14:16] <pmcgowan> sturmflut2, hah, bugs are my life man
[14:17] <sturmflut2> pmcgowan: I know, I constantly see your name in all those e-mails from Launchpad
[14:26] <cedian_linux> I'll built a pretty basic kernel, which might work
[14:28] <Mirv> mandel: niemeyer: I guess what would be needed would be a variant of http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696529/ applied to the qml.v1/gl
[14:28] <popey> cedian_linux: what device?
[14:28] <cedian_linux> oneplus one
[14:28] <popey> cedian_linux: nice. a couple of other people have attempted that
[14:28] <popey> I think mariogrip is one
[14:29] <cedian_linux> not too basic, but there were things that didn't work out, I'm working together with mariogrip
[14:29] <popey> he's got a working kernel, but I think 3g didnt work
[14:29] <popey> great!
[14:29] <popey> \o/
[14:31] <cedian_linux> and apparmor, but the kernel build failed most of the time
[14:31] <cedian_linux> what's dvb
[14:33] <ogra_> TV cards
[14:34] <cedian_linux> thanks
[14:35] <cedian_linux> and ir decoders?
[14:37] <niemeyer_> Mirv: The gl package there is generated out of gl.xml.. it shouldn't use that constant if it's not supposed to be available
[14:38] <niemeyer_> Mirv: and this seems to find nothing there:
[14:38] <niemeyer_> grep 'GL_DOUBLE\|GL_FLOAT' ~/src/gopkg.in/qml.v1/gl/*.*/*.go
[14:39] <Mirv> niemeyer_: right. the build failure of missing GLdouble on arm only just reminded me of a similar problem in completely different context
[14:39] <niemeyer_> Mirv: Ah, right.. it does use GLdouble and GLfloat
[14:47] <gogis_> hey guys
[14:48] <gogis_> is there anybody??
[14:48] <k1l> some are
[14:48] <cedian_linux> yes i'm here
[14:48] <gogis_> I came here to ask if I can somehow help with the development of ubuntu
[14:50] <gogis_> do you guys contribute to ubuntu development?
[14:50] <popey> sure do!
[14:50] <dobey> i'm not anybody :)
[14:51] <gogis_> okay, so what do you do? :)
[14:51] <popey> What would you like to do?
[14:53] <gogis_> something connected to programming... I just finished high school and would like to acquire some experience... I'm not new to programming, but I lack some experience with serious projects
[14:53] <dobey> gogis_: this channel is primarily about development of the phone images of ubuntu
[14:53] <popey> What languages do you know?
[14:53] <ogra_> sigh, so now calendar notifications dont generate persistent entires in the message menu anymore ?
[14:53] <gogis_> I have done algorithm competitions mostly in my free time
[14:53] <ogra_> does anyone know if thats on purpose ?
[14:54] <popey> they dont?
[14:54]  * ogra_ would like to know when he missed an appointment
[14:54] <popey> calendar has never used the message menu
[14:54] <popey> only the indicator-datetime
[14:54] <ogra_> i just got a notification (on both phones) for a meeting in 10min
[14:54] <dobey> gogis_: if you want to discuss more general development of ubuntu, such as you run on your pc currently, then #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-desktop might be a better place to discuss :)
[14:54] <ogra_> and they used to result in a blinking led and green envelope before
[14:55] <gogis_> I know C/++, Python, Pascal, quite Java... I also understand Assembly and I can learn other languages quickly
[14:55] <cedian_linux> shineled fails
[14:55] <davmor2> dobey: no you are that body not any right :)
[14:56] <sturmflut2> gogis_: this is a special channel for Ubuntu on phones and tablets. You might want to start at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[14:58] <cedian_linux> can someone look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696697/ ?
[15:01] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: Hm, "shineled" doesn't seem to be part of the vanilla kernel. Is this an Android- oder vendor-only driver?
[15:01] <cedian_linux> android
[15:02] <ogra_> makes the led shine :)
[15:03] <cedian_linux> It looks like it won't build the built-in.o in shineled, but I can't find out why
[15:03] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: what do you think of making F11 and CTRL+H toggles, on top of allowing exiting full screen and history with ESC ?
[15:05] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, F11 should definitely be a toggle, and I don’t mind if Ctrl+H is a toggle too (although that sounds less natural to me)
[15:06] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok
[15:06] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ill just do f11
[15:08] <cedian_linux> my makefile sturmflut2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696741/
[15:10] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: also, if we are in history view or in settings AND in fullscreen, do you think esc should exit both ?
[15:10] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: That's the default Linux kernel Makefile, from what I know about kernel development you might rather look at linux/drivers/misc/Makefile or something around that location
[15:11] <cedian_linux> thanks
[15:11] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: apparently it tries to link the shineled object file, but it was never built?
[15:11] <cedian_linux> no never built
[15:12] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: and finally, but i think you knew this already, escaping fullscreen from the new tab view is impossible since the focus will be permanently on the textfield
[15:12] <cedian_linux> here the other makefile from that directory http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696753/
[15:14] <cedian_linux> I commented the lastpart out it works
[15:14] <sturmflut2> cedian_linux: Hmmm, in that case there might be a broken Makefile in linux/drivers/misc/shineled/ ?
[15:15] <cedian_linux> but got another error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11696765/
[15:16] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, not sure I understand, how could the new tab view be fullscreen? I mean it doesn’t make sense to allow it to go fullscreen, does it?
[15:16] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: well, you are in fullscreen on a page, then switch tab to a new tab page
[15:17] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ctrl+tab to switch tabs can land you on a new tab page, ctrl+t while in fullscreen also
[15:17] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, then those actions should result in leaving fullscreen mode
[15:18] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: great
[15:19] <oSoMoN> mandel, hey, could https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463559 be a bug in udm, by any chance?
[15:22] <cedian_linux> it's going on with compiling
[15:24] <oSoMoN> dpm, hey, we’re having an issue with oxide translations in the langpacks, can you advise?
[15:24] <dpm> oSoMoN, about to enter a call, but please let me know the details and I'll answer when I'm back
[15:25] <oSoMoN> dpm, oxide generates translations under /usr/share/locale/$LANG/LC_MESSAGES/oxide-qt.mo, they are being stripped off the deb by pkgstriptranslations, and they end up in the langpack under /usr/share/locale-langpack/$LANG/LC_MESSAGES/oxide.mo (notice how oxide-qt.mo became oxide.mo)
[15:26] <oSoMoN> how could it possibly be renamed?
[15:28] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: one last thing, navigating to another page by clicking a link currently exits fullscreen. is this intentional ?
[15:31] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, try in another desktop browser, how does it behave?
[15:32] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: other desktop browsers try to stay in fullscreen no matter what you do. you exit fullscreen only when you explicitly ask for it
[15:33] <mpt> jgdx, seb128: It’s not reviewed yet, but I’ve posted a draft design for keyboard settings for pocket PC. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LanguageAndText?action=diff&rev2=54&rev1=53#keyboard-hardware>
[15:33] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, do you have an example page that I could use to test that?
[15:33] <seb128> mpt, thanks
[15:33] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: any page that has a link. go to google.com and click on the links at the bottom for example
[15:33] <seb128> kenvandine, jgdx, ^
[15:33] <kenvandine> cool
[15:37] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: the reason it exits fullscreen on link click is because we get an onFullscreenRequested signal from oxide with the fullscreen argument set to false
[15:39] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, ok, so it might (or might not) be a bug in oxide, would you mind raising that with Chris on #oxide?
[15:47] <brunch875> what the...!
[15:47] <brunch875> I can't send an email on my desktop
[15:47] <brunch875> The reported error was "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.142 was not provided by any .service files".
[15:48] <brunch875> Ogra, what are you snappers breaking? :P
[15:48] <ogra_> brunch875, why would i break anything on your desktop :)
[15:49] <brunch875> It could be some convoluted and evil scheme
[15:50] <ogra_> i just had the same issue because i moved ~/.ssh around
[15:51] <ogra_> killing gnome-keyring-daemon and restarting the mailer worked for me
[15:51] <ogra_> (after i had putr back ~/.ssh
[15:51] <ogra_> )
[15:52] <brunch875> oh I installed openssh-server yesterday
[15:52] <brunch875> I notice a pattern here
[15:58] <dpm> oSoMoN, what distro are we talking about re: oxide translations, vivid (and wily) I guess?
[15:58] <oSoMoN> dpm, vivid for sure, I haven’t checked on wily yet, let me do that
[15:59] <dpm> oSoMoN, it seems there are no translations templates for wily yet, so vivid it is for now
[16:00] <oSoMoN> ok
[16:01] <dpm> oSoMoN, so what I've done is to change the translation domain in the source package in LP from "oxide" to "oxide-qt". If I remember correctly, this will make the translations to be exported as "oxide-qt" in the next language pack export. I'd suggest to check with pitti next time the langpacks are built
[16:02] <oSoMoN> dpm, thanks! How come this domain is hardcoded, instead of extracting the domain name from the filenames installed by the package?
[16:05] <oSoMoN> dpm, and is there a project/source package I can target the bug at, for reference?
[16:07] <dpm> oSoMoN, the first time a source package that contains translations is uploaded, LP asks for the template name (how it will be shown in the translations URL) and for the domain (filename to export as in the langpacks). IIRC, LP does a guess and sets domain = source package name, which admins can manually override. Perhaps the first upload the source package was named "oxide"?
[16:07] <dpm> I don't know, that would be one option
[16:07] <dpm> one possiblitiy of what could have happened, I mean
[16:08] <oSoMoN> dpm, ok, fair enough
[16:08] <dpm> oSoMoN, not sure if it's worth filing a bug (that'd be against lp:launchpad). The first ever approval of translations is always manual, and as much as I'd like to be fixed, reallistically I don't see it happening
[16:08] <oSoMoN> dpm, in fact the mo files used to be named oxide.mo, but were renamed oxide-qt.mo at some point, so the initial setup made sense
[16:08] <dpm> aha
[16:09] <oSoMoN> alexabreu, ^^
[16:09] <dpm> so that was probably it. The setup made sense initially, but then the domain in LP wasn't updated according to the change
[16:09] <oSoMoN> dpm, do you mind if I quote our IRC conversation in https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464159 ?
[16:09] <dpm> oSoMoN, not at all
[16:09] <oSoMoN> thx
[16:09] <alexabreu> oSoMoN, dpm yeah I think there was a rename at some point
[16:09] <dpm> feel free to quote any public conversations I have
[16:10] <alexabreu> that explains it
[16:12] <oSoMoN> alexabreu, so all we have to do is wait for the next langpack update, IIUC
[16:12] <oSoMoN> dpm, how often are the langpacks built?
[16:12] <alexabreu> oSoMoN, right, ... dpm can we force a quick update?
[16:16] <dpm> oSoMoN, I think translations are exported daily and then the langpacks are built shortly afterwards. Generally I keep track of the cronjobs after asking the LP team to set them up, but I haven't for vicid
[16:17] <dpm> pitti, are you around and do you know? ^
[16:17] <dpm> or cjwatson, do you know the schedule for language pack exports on LP? ^
[16:26] <popey> jdstrand: the terminal app cannot execute programs located in the home directory, this breaks the ability to run stuff in ~/bin (which gets added to PATH if it exists). Any way we can work around / fix that?
[16:27] <popey> jdstrand: because it's quite handy being able to slap random binaries in ~/bin
[16:27] <jdstrand> popey: what is the denial?
[16:28] <popey> oh, hang on. this _could_ be my bad
[16:28] <popey> :D
[16:28] <cjwatson> dpm: You can find it in lp:lp-production-crontabs, which I believe ~canonical can see
[16:28] <cjwatson> dpm: vivid is 30 10 * * 1
[16:29] <ogra_> popey, i dont think it is... i had the same issue
[16:31] <popey> more testing needed
[16:31] <popey> jdstrand: ignore me for now, unless ogra_ has a good sample
[16:32] <ogra_> not currently ... but i tried scripts in ~/bin more than once ...
[16:32] <ogra_> ssh localhost helps ;)
[16:33] <ogra_> gives you a completely unconfined terminal ... until the lifecycle kills the ssh connection
[16:33] <popey> aha!
[16:33] <popey> locally on device, having a shell script in ~/bin it fails when you try and run it
[16:33] <popey> with "bash: bin/in.sh: Permission denied"
[16:33] <ogra_> yeah
[16:33] <popey> jdstrand: ^ that
[16:34] <popey> [26531.600286] type=1400 audit(1434040394.724:247): apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" profile="com.ubuntu.terminal_terminal_0.7.74" name="/home/phablet/bin/in.sh" pid=11131 comm="bash" requested_mask="x" denied_mask="x" fsuid=32011 ouid=32011
[16:34] <popey> (unignore me now) :)
[16:37] <dpm> cjwatson, I can see them indeed, thanks. For future reference, on which crontab are the LP exports?
[16:38] <dpm> cjwatson, nm, I found them
[16:42] <jdstrand> popey: can you file a bug against apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu with that denial?
[16:43] <jdstrand> balloons: hey, is this still needed in the apparmor policy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697185/
[16:45] <balloons> jdstrand, howdy.. we were talking about this the other day :-)
[16:46] <balloons> jdstrand, based on everything that happened (and broke), I'm guessing we could remove all those changes we did at this point
[16:46] <balloons> basically everything to try and help autopilot run with a fake home, etc
[16:47] <jdstrand> balloons: so that is ok to remove toady in wily?
[16:47] <jdstrand> today even
[16:49] <balloons> jdstrand, I believe so. No tests should be using it, but we could check before putting it in
[16:50] <jdstrand> balloons: would you mind doing that? that will greatly simplify the fix for popey's bug
[16:50] <jdstrand> balloons: either you or tell me who to ask
[17:29] <jdstrand> popey: hey, would you mind reviewing my permy 0.8 upload?
[17:30] <popey> jdstrand: sure
[17:34] <jdstrand> popey: thanks!
[17:34] <popey> np, and in return https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu/+bug/1464341
[17:35] <jdstrand> popey: thanks, I'll fix that after I get feedback from balloons
[17:37] <popey> magic
[17:40] <bschaefer> hello, anyone getting a crash in ubuntu-clock-app on wily? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697457/
[17:40] <balloons> jdstrand, what would you want me to do? propose the removal or ?
[17:40] <bschaefer> (wily-proposed)
[17:40] <balloons> jdstrand, popey sorry, my irc phantom'd dc'd on me and I've been talking to myself
[17:40] <jdstrand> balloons: oh, heh, let me paste
[17:41] <popey> bschaefer: dont use wily :)
[17:41] <jdstrand> 11:50 < jdstrand> balloons: would you mind doing that? that will greatly simplify the fix for popey's bug
[17:41] <jdstrand> 11:50 < jdstrand> balloons: either you or tell me who to ask
[17:41] <bschaefer> popey, but i need to :(
[17:41] <jdstrand> where 'that' refers to: 11:49 < balloons> jdstrand, I believe so. No tests should be using it, but we could check before putting it in
[17:41] <bschaefer> haha
[17:41] <popey> :(
[17:41] <bschaefer> so far all the other core apps are working (only tried 4-5 others)
[17:41] <bschaefer> somethings not working with qtposition (0x0 on this)
[17:42] <popey> bschaefer: feel free to file a bug
[17:42] <popey> yeah
[17:42] <bschaefer> popey, alright
[17:42] <bschaefer> popey, thanks!
[17:42] <balloons> jdstrand, I'll check if you can supply the revamped file
[17:42] <balloons> Or I can attempt to do it ;-)
[17:43] <jdstrand> balloons: autopilot is going to need to remove the 'owner @{HOMEDIRS}/autopilot/fakeenv/*/.local/share/@{APP_PKGNAME}/** mrwklix,' or any related fakeenv rules
[17:43] <jdstrand> balloons: sure, where is the branch?
[17:43] <balloons> jdstrand, ohh right.. that's in autopilot
[17:43] <jdstrand> yeah
[17:43] <balloons> sorry, I was thinking it was somewhere else
[17:44] <jdstrand> I need that ^ removed so I can remove the rules in the unconfined template and do something simple to fix popey's bug
[17:44] <balloons> i'll propose, test and ask for your review
[17:44] <jdstrand> sounds great
[17:45] <jdstrand> there is a weird thing called 'conflicting x modifiers' with apparmor policy that we need to make sure we are in sync with otherwise profiles with the autopilot rules still in there will fail to load
[17:48] <cedian_linux> Can someone help me i get these errors and can't find out why: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697492/ the code it's about: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697516/
[17:48] <jjohansen> not really weird, think of it as you have two or more rules instructing the profile to do different things on exec. Instead of just arbitrarily choosing one of the conflicting rules, apparmor forces the policy author to fix the conflict
[17:48] <jdstrand> jjohansen: no it isn't weird, I just didn't want to take the time to describe it in detail
[17:48] <jjohansen> :)
[17:48] <jdstrand> :)
[17:49] <jdstrand> jjohansen: I had a feeling you'd call me out on 'weird' :)
[17:49] <jjohansen> well the message is a bit 'weird' :)
[17:50] <cedian_linux> You are both weird ;)
[17:51] <balloons> jdstrand, looks like veebers just took out the apparmor click.rules file in a recent revision
[17:51] <jdstrand> balloons: is that already in wily?
[17:52] <balloons> it seems like it should be yes
[17:52] <balloons> let me verify
[17:53] <balloons> jdstrand, yes it is in wily
[17:54] <balloons> seeing as I was going to do something similar, sounds like you are safe :-)
[17:54] <jdstrand> balloons: ok, let me be clearer-- click.rules is no longer shipped in wily, therefore there are no fakeenv rules for me to worry about?
[17:54] <balloons> jdstrand, correct. no more fakeenv rules
[17:54] <jdstrand> great
[17:54] <jdstrand> balloons: thanks for checking on that for me :)
[17:55] <cedian_linux> jjohansen: I can't find what the error is and how to fix it in my code these are the errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697492/ and this is the code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697516/
[17:59] <jjohansen> cedian_linux: not the right file
[18:00] <balloons> jdstrand, we need the version from May, but I'm hesitant now to say it's in Wily, because I don't have it locally
[18:01] <balloons> so it's a little confusing. I'm going to take back my previous statement. It's not been released yet
[18:01] <balloons> sorry!
[18:03] <jdstrand> balloons: looks like dbus-property-service ships /usr/share/autopilot-touch/apparmor/click.rules
[18:03] <balloons> jdstrand, I was just going to say this :-)
[18:03] <balloons> they moved it
[18:03] <balloons> so I guess we'll be proposing over there
[18:04] <balloons> the merge that removed it had nothing to do with apparmor, so it was kind of buried
[18:04] <jdstrand> yeah
[18:04] <jdstrand> balloons: so, now the question remains-- can they be removed from dbus-property-service?
[18:05] <jdstrand> balloons: I don't know what in the testing environment is using fakeenv
[18:06] <balloons> jdstrand, right-o. I'm still of the mind it can be removed, but as I said, I'd like to check to be sure
[18:06] <jdstrand> balloons: ok, which loops us back around. can you add a comment in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-property-service/+bug/1464341 when you've done that?
[18:08] <jdstrand> balloons: once you've done that, I can upload both
[18:19] <cedian_linux> what does rtc mean?
[18:20] <anpok> various things.. real time clock?
[18:20] <cedian_linux> can, but is it needed?
[18:20] <anpok> hm why does bluetooth not work on manta/nexus10
[18:20] <anpok> cedian_linux: sorry, i am lacking context
[18:21] <cedian_linux> I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697728/ and anpok: what do you mean?
[18:22] <davmor2> anpok: it never has
[18:22] <cedian_linux> I meant is it needed for a working kernel?
[18:23] <davmor2> anpok: chipset is not supported and we never had the driver iirc ogra_ or rsalveti or cyphermox can probably give you more info
[18:23] <anpok> oh
[18:28] <dobey> davmor2: is it that, or is it the same reason bt hasn't worked on n5? ie, it needs bluez5
[18:29] <dobey> iirc, the drivers are there, but it requires going through the android hal instead of normal bluez hci, so bluez5 is needed to be able to do that
[18:29] <davmor2> dobey: oh it could be that, I know there is a reason and it was driver related not sure what the fix was though
[18:30] <dobey> i'm pretty sure it's that. but bluez5 got held up due to other issues
[18:31] <dobey> i guess cyphermox is probably best person to ask about that
[18:37] <anpok> hm ok it seems to have th bcm43241
[18:37] <anpok> which does wifi bt4 and fm
[18:37] <nik90> bschaefer: Do you mind checking if other apps like OSMTouch, GPS Navigation etc crash when using Qt Location on wily-proposed? Clock app uses Qt Location from the QML side and I don't see anything like accessing a null pointer etc from the clock app side of things.
[18:38] <bschaefer> nik90, yeah i can, was looking for a different example but they didnt use position :)
[18:40] <nik90> bschaefer: test https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-weather-dev/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot .. perfect example for this use case
[18:41] <bschaefer> nik90, osmtouch crash looks like the same place
[18:41]  * bschaefer tests weather
[18:42] <bschaefer> nik90, same crash
[18:42] <bschaefer> nik90, the one thing that looked strange was
[18:43] <bschaefer> Unable to select module, using dummy.
[18:43] <bschaefer> im not sure if it failed to select a video module or something, but a dummy module could be null
[18:43] <nik90> bschaefer: I have seen that msg before as well..although I cannot remember the specifics.
[18:43] <bschaefer> not sure if its one of the false warnings one or not
[18:43] <bschaefer> but if its failing to find a device or something
[18:43] <nik90> bschaefer: I think we can defer the bug report to https://launchpad.net/location-service since it is the common denominator amongst all these apps
[18:44] <bschaefer> nik90, alright sounds good
[19:09] <cedian_linux> I keep getting usb ether.o errors, but I tried to disable it and it comes back
[19:15] <cedian_linux> my uhci starts failing
[19:17] <cedian_linux> I meant ehci and is it needed?
[19:19] <anpok> what are you compiling?
[19:19] <anpok> i mean which kernel..
[19:20] <cedian_linux> oneplus one
[19:22] <cedian_linux> and keep getting this when running an other make http://paste.ubuntu.com/11698096/
[19:31] <babajuss> hello Can anyone tell me if  I can install ubuntu touch to any device or only to mentioned in table in ubuntu.com? Thank you. By the way I have Sony xperia z that I do not use. I would like to instal ubuntu to it.
[19:53] <SturmFlut> Oh wow, Android M comes with a system-wide app backup. So now they don't just own anything that is usually synchd with the cloud, they get *all* your data from *all* your apps.
[20:13] <charles> jhodapp, ping
[20:14] <charles> jhodapp, wrt your last couple of comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1373313, what changes do you see that need to happen in i-sound?
[20:14] <jhodapp> charles, hide the next/prev buttons if it's not possible to go next/previous (use the MPRIS has_next()/ has_previous() methods)
[20:14] <charles> jhodapp, anything else?
[20:15] <jhodapp> charles, there might be another change, but won't know until I re-enable exporting the MPRIS interface in media-hub
[20:15] <jhodapp> charles, so that's it for now
[20:15] <charles> ack
[20:20] <charles> jhodapp, just to confirm, you meant the CanGoNext and CanGoPrevious properties, right?
[20:22] <jhodapp> charles, yes sorry, I gave you the media-hub method names :)
[20:22] <charles> :-)
[21:27] <HoloIRCUser> It's compiling the touch system
[21:51] <dobey> uhm, ok
[21:51] <dobey> oh
[21:53] <dobey> SturmFlut: i suppose that's only if you enable it?
[21:55] <SturmFlut> dobey: No, it's on by default, you have to explicitely disable it as an app developer. Probably the user can disable it somehow, but all the other Google Sync services are also usually activated by default when you do a fresh setup of an Android device.
[21:55] <SturmFlut> dobey: They even give you additional free Google Drive storage for this feature, to get everybody on board
[21:56] <dobey> eh
[21:56] <dobey> do they do encryption by default now?
[21:59] <SturmFlut> At least they say that the backup is encrypted, but with what key? Apparently all app data is restored if you log into your account with a new device, so the key has to be either stored somewhere or it can be calculated from your login data
[22:01] <SturmFlut> Like with iCloud, they tell you that everything is encrpyted, but using their key...