| === littlebunnyfufu is now known as Guest8773 | ||
| === _7 is now known as SonikkuAmerica | ||
| Lynkzz | hello all | 02:03 |
|---|---|---|
| Lynkzz | Thanks for kubuntu, kodibuntu | 02:03 |
| Lynkzz | longlive LINUX | 02:04 |
| eryndiamonds | hi. I need help with a couple of things. first is the system notification helper keeps popping up saying I need flashplugin-installer. I already have it installed. | 03:11 |
| eryndiamonds | second is after an update of chromium a bunch of apps quit working | 03:12 |
| eryndiamonds | and third my system has slowed to a crawl | 03:13 |
| eryndiamonds | is anyone available? | 03:16 |
| eryndiamonds | brb restroom | 03:21 |
| eryndiamonds | back. still waiting on a response to my issues | 03:23 |
| eryndiamonds | oh well. I guess I will try to figure it out on my own. | 03:27 |
| === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward | ||
| haze-bot | I have multiple problems that I need help with, if anyone is interested that is. | 04:30 |
| haze-bot | I have multiple problems that I need help with, if anyone is interested that is. | 04:41 |
| valorie | haze-bot: what problems? | 04:52 |
| valorie | in a help chan, people generally speak up if they know how to help | 04:52 |
| haze-bot | alright thanks for the info. The first problem i have is that i can't add any repositories | 04:58 |
| regedit | hello | 05:02 |
| regedit | so what's the current way of making the Windows key do what Windows-ians expect it to do (pop open the main "start menu") | 05:03 |
| haze-bot | woudln't you just asign the key that opens the menu to the windows key? | 05:04 |
| valorie | haze-bot: how did you try to add the repo? | 05:04 |
| valorie | and which repo | 05:04 |
| valorie | oh, and I think that the win key can't be used alone, but only with other keys | 05:05 |
| haze-bot | valorie: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pipelight/stable | 05:05 |
| regedit | so, basically, what you're telling me is, sounds like, the point is, at the end of the day, | 05:06 |
| regedit | it's not possible? | 05:06 |
| valorie | regedit: I could be wrong, but I think not | 05:07 |
| regedit | please be wrong | 05:07 |
| valorie | haze-bot: when you made that command, what was the output? | 05:07 |
| regedit | I am actually giving linux a serious try now, possibly move away from Windoes for a long time to come | 05:08 |
| regedit | and I find out there can be no shortcuts less than 2 keys?... | 05:08 |
| valorie | regedit: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=84602 | 05:09 |
| finley | >..> | 05:09 |
| valorie | there are one-key shortcuts | 05:09 |
| valorie | but not the win key | 05:09 |
| haze-bot | valorie: um its like 3 paragrapgs and Konversation is warning me about flooding and stuff | 05:09 |
| haze-bot | paragraphs* | 05:10 |
| valorie | !paste | 05:10 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 05:10 |
| valorie | haze-bot: ^^^ | 05:10 |
| haze-bot | valorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700328/ | 05:11 |
| valorie | woah, weird | 05:12 |
| haze-bot | yeah | 05:12 |
| finley | ........................ | 05:12 |
| haze-bot | no matter what repository this happens | 05:12 |
| bshah | is your clock right? | 05:12 |
| haze-bot | me? | 05:12 |
| bshah | yes | 05:12 |
| bshah | computer clock I mean | 05:13 |
| haze-bot | says 112am | 05:13 |
| haze-bot | just changed to 13 | 05:13 |
| bshah | and date? | 05:13 |
| haze-bot | 12th of june | 05:13 |
| bshah | hmm | 05:13 |
| haze-bot | friday | 05:13 |
| valorie | you could paste the line `deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pipelight/stable/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main` directly into your sources.list | 05:13 |
| haze-bot | umm im new to this. | 05:14 |
| valorie | !repositories | 05:14 |
| ubottu | The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories | 05:14 |
| valorie | haze-bot: we all started out new | 05:14 |
| valorie | that's not a problem | 05:14 |
| haze-bot | Muon Discover hangs a lot which is one of my other reasons | 05:15 |
| haze-bot | problems not reasons | 05:16 |
| valorie | ah, I don't like discover | 05:17 |
| valorie | I prefer a package manager over a software center | 05:18 |
| valorie | and usually just use apt anyway | 05:18 |
| haze-bot | i don't like it either | 05:18 |
| finley | haha | 05:18 |
| valorie | I would uninstall it except that I test things for people, often | 05:18 |
| === ubuntu is now known as Guest25708 | ||
| haze-bot | muon won't take the repository | 05:20 |
| haze-bot | and it crashed | 05:20 |
| valorie | well, right there on the repo page there is a place to report problems | 05:21 |
| valorie | I would do so | 05:21 |
| haze-bot | opened it up again and the repository still isn't there | 05:21 |
| valorie | put in your paste in your bug report | 05:21 |
| haze-bot | um this is any repository not just pipelight | 05:21 |
| valorie | ooo | 05:22 |
| bshah | haze-bot: muon crashing is related to your error message | 05:22 |
| valorie | and yet you are able to update and upgrade normally, haze-bot? | 05:22 |
| haze-bot | no | 05:22 |
| haze-bot | hang on let me show you waht happens when i update | 05:23 |
| haze-bot | what* | 05:24 |
| haze-bot | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700356/ | 05:25 |
| valorie | well, you are clearly not connecting to the archive | 05:26 |
| valorie | but that paste doesn't tell why | 05:26 |
| === adrien_ is now known as Guest96898 | ||
| valorie | but it seems you haven't removed the CDROM as a source | 05:27 |
| valorie | please do that | 05:27 |
| haze-bot | i try to do apt-cdrom but this happens http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700358/ | 05:27 |
| valorie | no no, remove it | 05:27 |
| haze-bot | um okay? from muon right? | 05:27 |
| valorie | you don't want that unless you don't have any internet connection | 05:27 |
| valorie | sure | 05:27 |
| haze-bot | it won't let me from muon. Can i do it via the terminal? | 05:29 |
| valorie | well, you can edit your source.list | 05:29 |
| haze-bot | where is that? | 05:29 |
| valorie | the link I posted earlier tells you how to do that | 05:29 |
| valorie | !repositories | 05:30 |
| valorie | ubottu: ? | 05:30 |
| valorie | The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories | 05:30 |
| haze-bot | it doesn't tell me where the list is | 05:31 |
| valorie | haze-bot: /etc/apt/sources.list | 05:34 |
| valorie | which you need kdesudo to edit, as I recall | 05:34 |
| valorie | so `kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list` | 05:35 |
| Unit193 | Generally better to add extras in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | 05:35 |
| haze-bot | Want me to delete deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 15.04 _Vivid Vervet_ - Release amd64 (20150422)]/ vivid main multiverse restricted universe? | 05:35 |
| haze-bot | Unit193: extras? | 05:35 |
| valorie | rather than deleting, just comment out by putting # at the beginning of the line | 05:37 |
| === Malsasa is now known as Guest91062 | ||
| === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa | ||
| valorie | that way if you ever decide to add it back, you can just remove the hash mark | 05:38 |
| valorie | Unit193: haze-bot needs to remove the cdrom as a source | 05:38 |
| valorie | and muon is crashing for some reason | 05:38 |
| Unit193 | Oh, weird. Usually happens on install. | 05:38 |
| valorie | yes, just once to me | 05:39 |
| valorie | in all these years | 05:39 |
| valorie | once grub went onto the USB too | 05:39 |
| valorie | THAT was a trip | 05:39 |
| haze-bot | won't let me save the list | 05:39 |
| haze-bot | The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list. | 05:40 |
| valorie | and you used kdesudo and entered your password when asked? | 05:43 |
| haze-bot | kate | 05:44 |
| haze-bot | the one that comes pre-installed when you install Kubuntu 15.01 (current version i believe)\ | 05:45 |
| valorie | I gave you the command, above | 05:48 |
| valorie | kdesudo is how you use kate as root | 05:48 |
| valorie | `kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list` | 05:48 |
| valorie | without the ticks | 05:48 |
| haze-bot | oh sorry | 05:49 |
| haze-bot | i put the hashtag like you recommended and I re-entered the command Sudo apt-get update and i will paste the results when its done | 05:51 |
| haze-bot | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700428/ | 05:52 |
| haze-bot | ignore the top bit because i forgot about the kate bit | 05:53 |
| haze-bot | still have repository issues.http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700442/ | 05:54 |
| haze-bot | tried with a different repository to no avail. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700450/ | 05:57 |
| === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa | ||
| valorie | gosh, kdesudo | 06:03 |
| valorie | not sudo | 06:03 |
| valorie | ok | 06:05 |
| valorie | so strange, I really don't understand that | 06:05 |
| haze-bot | sudo is for root privalages right? | 06:06 |
| valorie | now that you've done update though, try: `sudo apt full-upgrade` | 06:06 |
| valorie | which will remove packages if needed | 06:06 |
| valorie | better than dist-upgrade | 06:06 |
| haze-bot | 0 | 06:07 |
| valorie | just in case there is an update to ssl | 06:07 |
| haze-bot | nothing changed | 06:07 |
| valorie | since that is part of the error report | 06:07 |
| valorie | ok, so you are fully upgraded, that's good to know | 06:07 |
| valorie | but it seems that apt-add-repository isn't fetching the key automatically | 06:08 |
| valorie | and yes, sudo is for root privs, however, kdesudo should always be used for running a gui as root | 06:08 |
| haze-bot | i don't know if this helps but when i installed Kubuntu i encrypted it so i need a password to turn on | 06:09 |
| valorie | ALWAYS | 06:09 |
| haze-bot | and for some reason there was a additional encrptions whose password was just pressing enter | 06:09 |
| valorie | I assume you had already logged in properly, so you are running inside the encrypted session | 06:09 |
| haze-bot | yes | 06:09 |
| valorie | that will have no effect one way or the other | 06:10 |
| valorie | I'm out of ideas | 06:10 |
| haze-bot | File "/usr/lib/python3.4/ssl.py", line 437, in create_default_context | 06:10 |
| haze-bot | context.load_verify_locations(cafile, capath, cadata) | 06:10 |
| valorie | bshah, Unit193 - ideas? | 06:10 |
| haze-bot | opps anyways after that line is where the first error occurs | 06:10 |
| valorie | at least it isn't looking for the cdrom | 06:11 |
| haze-bot | hey silver lining and all that jazz! | 06:11 |
| valorie | it's possible that launchpad itself is glitching | 06:11 |
| Unit193 | ca-cert* I presume is installed/ | 06:12 |
| haze-bot | what is that? | 06:12 |
| haze-bot | what are the odds of us meeting/reading each other again in case this isn't solved before you (or me) decides to sleep? | 06:15 |
| Unit193 | She's on here in the evening (my time) a fair bit, so not unlikely. | 06:16 |
| haze-bot | east or west coast (or not in America, never know) | 06:17 |
| haze-bot | for timezone | 06:17 |
| Unit193 | https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/solved-issues-with-adding-ppa-repositories/1505 | 06:18 |
| Unit193 | Nah, I'm EDT America/New_York, etc. | 06:18 |
| Unit193 | But to me kind of sounds like you should just run update-ca-certificates and check what's up. | 06:19 |
| haze-bot | link you gave said to format and reinstall | 06:20 |
| valorie | haze-bot: you will need sudo for that commad | 06:20 |
| valorie | haze-bot: one person did that | 06:20 |
| valorie | there was another answer | 06:20 |
| haze-bot | i know and it worked! | 06:21 |
| valorie | not all PPAs get updated | 06:21 |
| valorie | people lose interest, etc. | 06:21 |
| haze-bot | why was it the certificates that was the problem? | 06:21 |
| valorie | not sure | 06:21 |
| valorie | I ran the same command and got 0 to update | 06:22 |
| haze-bot | well i thank you for the 2 hours you helped me Valorie and I thank you Unit193 for helping me out too | 06:22 |
| valorie | haze-bot: that's why we're here! | 06:22 |
| haze-bot | it said 0 for me also but it still worked | 06:23 |
| valorie | glad I could help | 06:23 |
| Unit193 | valorie: Oh hah, I didn't see that one either! :P | 06:23 |
| Unit193 | haze-bot: Sure, though valorie did more. :) | 06:23 |
| haze-bot | Once again thank you Valorie. I'm going to finish what i was doing before this mess then sleep. Goodnight and see y'all around | 06:24 |
| valorie | sleep well, haze-bot | 06:24 |
| valorie | you are most welcome | 06:24 |
| === brandon is now known as RobinHood2015 | ||
| RobinHood2015 | Is there any way to customize what the "Lock Screen" command does in Plasma 5? | 06:55 |
| nexia | the lockscreen keybinding? Ctrl+ALT+L ? | 06:58 |
| nexia | RobinHood2015 ^ | 06:58 |
| RobinHood2015 | Well, yes, that as well, but also the "Lock Screen" command in the Kickoff menu. | 06:59 |
| === kubuntu is now known as edition | ||
| edition | I have installed kubuntu, but it displays a black screen. Although, it can boot successfully from a live cd. | 07:21 |
| capsadmin | what's this noise pattern? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/244444/snapshot1.png | 07:22 |
| capsadmin | i've seen it on my phone too i think | 07:22 |
| james_lan | edition: try going to recovery and see if you have an option for systemd or upstart. | 07:23 |
| james_lan | See if that works | 07:23 |
| valorie | edition: which version of kubuntu did you install? | 07:23 |
| edition | 14.04 | 07:23 |
| valorie | hmmm | 07:23 |
| valorie | it's been so long since I ran that, I'm not much good | 07:24 |
| capsadmin | edition: black screen as in it's turned off or do you have a cursor? | 07:24 |
| edition | black screen, no cursor. But the system is responsive. | 07:24 |
| james_lan | responsive how? | 07:25 |
| edition | As in the kernel responds to pressing the power button, and the keyboard Caps lock and num lock. | 07:26 |
| james_lan | If you do CTRL-ALT-F2 does it bring you to a login prompt? | 07:27 |
| edition | I will try it again, as I am currently using IRC via the kubuntu live cd. | 07:29 |
| james_lan | One moment then | 07:29 |
| james_lan | What I'm wondering is if it's a problem with X or with fb | 07:30 |
| james_lan | Drat | 07:30 |
| carlos_ | just came by to say good night | 07:37 |
| carlos_ | I love linux, kde, kubuntu | 07:37 |
| === kubuntu is now known as Guest29820 | ||
| === Guest29820 is now known as edition | ||
| edition | Alt+F2 didn't work. | 07:57 |
| edition | Neither did CTRL+Alt+F2. | 07:57 |
| === hardy is now known as Guest22039 | ||
| heeen | can anyone help me get powerdevil running | 08:12 |
| heeen | I can't start it from background services or commandline | 08:13 |
| amichair | Hi, plasma5 just crashed on me when I clicked the usb icon in system tray. Then it restarted, but with my desktop (widgets and all) moved to the wrong monitor. How can I move it all back to the main monitor? | 08:13 |
| edition | kubuntu 14.04 still displays a black screen on bootup. | 08:28 |
| amichair | is there a way to move an entire desktop (containment, is it called?) to another monitor in a multiple-monitor setup? | 08:40 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:43 |
| amichair | morning, lordievader | 08:44 |
| lordievader | Hey amichair | 08:45 |
| freed0m | hi all | 08:54 |
| freed0m | is the possibile to add more rscreen resolution to my nvidia driver? | 08:55 |
| freed0m | my highest its | 08:55 |
| freed0m | 1366 | 08:55 |
| === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away | ||
| edition | The kubuntu live cd works, but the actual boot up doesn't. | 09:09 |
| lordievader | So, what does the actual boot do? | 09:10 |
| edition | sorry, when it boots from the hard drive. | 09:10 |
| lordievader | I got that ;) | 09:11 |
| freed0m | is the possibile to add more rscreen resolution to my nvidia driver? mi highest its 1366, i want put something higher | 09:11 |
| lordievader | freed0m: If the card and monitor support it, sure. | 09:12 |
| lordievader | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu | 09:13 |
| === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward | ||
| amichair | is there a way to move an entire desktop (containment, is it called?) to another monitor in a multiple-monitor setup? | 09:29 |
| edition | should I try Kubuntu 15.04 instead? | 09:37 |
| lordievader | edition: First explain what happens when you boot the install. | 09:43 |
| Walex2 | amichair: what does that mean? | 09:43 |
| Walex2 | freed0m: yes, you can. | 09:43 |
| Walex2 | freed0m: using the usual technique of writing an 'xorg.conf' file | 09:44 |
| amichair | Walex2: I have two monitors. when plasma 5 occasionally crashes, for some reason the whole desktop (files, widgets, wallpaper, etc.) moves from my primary monitor to the secondary one (which is on the left) | 09:44 |
| === z_ is now known as Guest99546 | ||
| amichair | and I want to move it all back, rather than configuring everything from scratch each time | 09:44 |
| Walex2 | amichair: ahhhhh | 09:45 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 09:46 |
| edition | lordievader: Its just black, but the caps lock and num lock works. Ctrl+Alt+F2 does not display a text shell. | 09:46 |
| lordievader | edition: Try the nomodeset kernel parameter. | 09:46 |
| Walex2 | amichair: that's regrettably I think the result of a known problem: for the sake of speed many KDE thingies don't save properly ('fsync') their configuration files, so crashes at unlucky moments result in bad things happening. | 09:46 |
| edition | lordievader: I don't have write access to my HD, via the live dvd. | 09:47 |
| lordievader | edition: You set that kernel parameter in the grub menu. | 09:47 |
| Walex2 | amichair: what's happening to you though is mostly likely to be that "primary" and "secondary" are defined differently by you and the X driver. | 09:48 |
| edition | ok. | 09:48 |
| Walex2 | amichair: if you add some configuration to 'xorg.conf' you can tell the X system which one you want as primary and which as secondary. | 09:48 |
| amichair | Walex2: in system settings the geography and primary display have not changed | 09:48 |
| Walex2 | amichair: that's surprising. | 09:49 |
| Walex2 | amichair: then the second most likely thing is that the "activity" config has not been saved properly. | 09:49 |
| amichair | Walex2: I don't use activities, but I suppose there's a default one you're referring to | 09:50 |
| amichair | Walex2: and the config itself of all the contents is ok, just somehow got associated with a different physical monitor | 09:50 |
| Walex2 | amichair: a default one per monitor | 09:51 |
| amichair | Walex2: the primary display reverted to default wallpaper and nothing else on it | 09:51 |
| edition | kubuntu looks great. | 09:52 |
| amichair | Walex2: can I move the activity from one monitor to another? | 09:52 |
| Walex2 | amichair: yes. | 09:52 |
| Walex2 | amichair: at least with version 4. I don't know about 5. | 09:52 |
| amichair | Walex2: perhaps you remember how? | 09:52 |
| amichair | Walex2: to be more precise, I have 3 displays (also a TV that's usually off) | 09:54 |
| amichair | Walex2: I just checked, and it still has its config intact, it seems | 09:55 |
| amichair | so desktops/activities 1/2/3 changed to 2/new/3 (or possibly 2/new/1, since original 1/3 looked the same so I can't distinguish) | 09:55 |
| amichair | btw, personally, I never got 'activities'. I wonder how many KDE users actually use them... any stats on that? | 09:58 |
| BluesKaj | amichair, activities has never been properly explained IMO, and most users just use the virtual desktops instead afaik | 10:05 |
| amichair | BluesKaj: I don't use virtual desktops either, so maybe I'm not the target audience in the first place | 10:06 |
| lordievader | I use both. | 10:06 |
| amichair | seriously, are there stats on activities usage anywhere? | 10:06 |
| BluesKaj | heh, well I guess I'm not targeted by the activities devs either :-) | 10:07 |
| BluesKaj | I wonder when krunner entries will be remembered in the drop down like they did in kde/plasma 4 | 10:10 |
| BluesKaj | that was a handy feature, which i really miss | 10:11 |
| amichair | BluesKaj: open a bug and hope for the best... | 10:11 |
| amichair | hmmm... from what I'm reading there is only one activity across all monitors, but with a separate containment for each monitor | 10:12 |
| amichair | so is it possible to move a containment? | 10:13 |
| BluesKaj | don't think it's a bug , think it's deliberate, similar to dropping of different wall papers for each VD | 10:13 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Wishlist stuff is usually also issues as a bug. | 10:14 |
| amichair | if something worked and stopped working, I'd say it's a regression bug, not a wish/feature/enhancement... | 10:14 |
| amichair | and if it was dropped on purpose, it's a malicious regression bug :-) | 10:16 |
| BluesKaj | amichair, I read a converstion in #kubuntu-devel about the the delberate elimination of the VD wallpapers because of complexity | 10:17 |
| BluesKaj | conversation | 10:17 |
| amichair | well I suppose I'm lucky I don't use VDs. One less malicious regression bug to be frustrated about :-P | 10:18 |
| BluesKaj | between JR and one of the other iop devs | 10:18 |
| lordievader | VD wallpapers != krunner regression | 10:18 |
| * BluesKaj tries to shed more light on his KB | 10:19 | |
| amichair | can't find anything about moving containments or activities or desktops or whatever it is that decided to move to the wrong monitor | 10:20 |
| BluesKaj | the VDs work just fine , but just miss having a different background on each | 10:20 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: What I mean is that you can still file a bug against krunner. That the VD thing is a lost cause doesn't mean the krunner bug is. | 10:21 |
| === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away | ||
| === ben___ is now known as edition | ||
| BluesKaj | ok lordievader, Bug 349057 | 10:44 |
| ubottu | bug 349057 in OpenEvsys "Event browse > "system error" when filtering on value in "project title"" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349057 | 10:44 |
| lordievader | I get a 404. | 10:44 |
| BluesKaj | yup, dunno what's wrong | 10:45 |
| BluesKaj | well I submitted it , it was given a bug number, so what's next then? | 10:47 |
| BluesKaj | bug 349057 | 10:47 |
| ubottu | bug 349057 in OpenEvsys "Event browse > "system error" when filtering on value in "project title"" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349057 | 10:47 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Keep an eye on it, see what happens with it. | 10:48 |
| BluesKaj | well that's obvious, lordievader | 10:48 |
| lordievader | Also why did you file it against openevsys? | 10:49 |
| BluesKaj | I didn't | 10:49 |
| lordievader | kde bug 349057 | 10:49 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 349057 in general "krunner no longer has the dropdown with previous entries listed in plasma 5" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349057 | 10:49 |
| BluesKaj | filed it as general | 10:49 |
| lordievader | Is that the one? | 10:49 |
| BluesKaj | yup | 10:50 |
| BluesKaj | it tool a while | 10:50 |
| BluesKaj | took | 10:50 |
| lordievader | No, the bot looks in Launchpad per default. | 10:50 |
| lordievader | You need to specify the KDE bug tracker if you want that one. | 10:50 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, the kde bug tracker just took me back tom the same reort pagfe I used to file the first bug, I'm duplicating here' | 11:01 |
| BluesKaj | report page | 11:02 |
| BluesKaj | I'm going to leave it as is, | 11:03 |
| nexia | um | 11:42 |
| nexia | help? :D | 11:43 |
| lordievader | !ask | nexia | 11:43 |
| ubottu | nexia: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 11:43 |
| nexia | I tried upgrading to 15.04 5.3 but like...I kept getting this 404 thing | 11:43 |
| nexia | lordievader: lol I know, sorry. | 11:43 |
| nexia | I just don't /remember/ what error it exactly was. | 11:44 |
| nexia | *checks google history* | 11:44 |
| nexia | Err http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid/main amd64 Packages404 Not Found | 11:44 |
| nexia | this and another one, after running the 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' | 11:45 |
| nexia | command | 11:45 |
| nexia | I rebooted after that, but I think I can safely assume it didn't really upgrade. 1) plasmashell STILL kept crashing 2) "about system" showed 5.2.2 plasma version IIRC | 11:46 |
| nexia | now...what's happening is | 11:46 |
| nexia | plasma splash loading screen progress bar (after sddm, entering password and hitting enter) reaches like 40% and then hangs forever | 11:47 |
| nexia | Luckily, I have another WM installed, so using that right now. | 11:48 |
| BluesKaj | nexia, upgrading from 14.10 via the internet/ repos? | 11:50 |
| BluesKaj | to 15.04? | 11:50 |
| nexia | stock 15.04 | 11:51 |
| nexia | to 5.3 KDE i guess | 11:51 |
| nexia | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/kde-plasma-5-3-released-heres-how-to-upgrade-in-kubuntu-15-04 <--- | 11:51 |
| BluesKaj | how are you installing 15.05 ? | 11:51 |
| BluesKaj | 15.04 | 11:51 |
| nexia | I already..dual booted that.. | 11:52 |
| nexia | Like, I downloaded the .ISO file and dual booted :P | 11:52 |
| nexia | is there a command to check what 'Plasma' version I have currently from the command line? | 11:53 |
| BluesKaj | oh a phone, that's not my strong suit , no experience with that | 11:53 |
| nexia | uh, 'phone'? Also, I think it's this one terminator ppa that's causing this, not sure. disabling it from software sources and updating again. | 11:56 |
| BluesKaj | if you're on a laptop or desktop this is where to get the iso file, http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu | 11:56 |
| nexia | I'm using a laptop currently - my issue is with a laptop system =) | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | why did yo post a phone site | 11:57 |
| nexia | idgi, the link I pasted isn't a mobile URL. | 11:58 |
| BluesKaj | idgi? | 11:58 |
| nexia | Sorry. I don't get it * | 11:59 |
| BluesKaj | sorry, I misread, anyway the official site is the one I posted | 12:00 |
| nexia | 2015-06-11 08:40:52 BluesKaj upgrade to plasma 5.3 fixes a lot of problems, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/kde-plasma-5-3-released-heres-how-to-upgrade-$ | 12:02 |
| nexia | 2015-06-11 08:41:40 BluesKaj nexia,^ | 12:02 |
| nexia | I'm talking about that one. | 12:02 |
| nexia | BluesKaj: yep ^^ | 12:02 |
| BluesKaj | well, best to ask in here rather than follow tutoials that can be out of date | 12:03 |
| nexia | ah | 12:03 |
| nexia | hm, sudo apt-get update'd without a hitch after I removed that ppa.. | 12:03 |
| BluesKaj | especially their links to isos | 12:04 |
| lordievader | nexia: About your 404 problem, looks like you have a ppa configured that doesn't have an vivid component. | 12:05 |
| nexia | lordievader: yeah, I feel silly for not running sudo-apt update and seeing the exact one before asking over here :| | 12:06 |
| nexia | it was a terminator ppa, I disabled that from muon software sources. | 12:06 |
| nexia | TIL. even one troublesome ppa can interrupt the whole upgrade process to 5.3 >< | 12:07 |
| BluesKaj | nexia, terminator ppa? never heard of that one | 12:08 |
| nexia | I'll just paste it. W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome-terminator/ppa/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found | 12:09 |
| nexia | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome-terminator/ppa/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found | 12:09 |
| BluesKaj | nexia, tha's a gnome ppa , what's that for? | 12:10 |
| lordievader | Heh, gnome stuff... | 12:10 |
| lordievader | Terminator is a drop down terminal like Quake, or however it was called, right? | 12:10 |
| nexia | (note that I installed terminator following instructions from http://gnometerminator.blogspot.in/p/introduction.html ) | 12:11 |
| nexia | (installation instructions for ubuntu) | 12:11 |
| lordievader | Gauke* | 12:11 |
| nexia | BluesKaj: replacement for Konsole...terminal emulator | 12:11 |
| BluesKaj | kde has yakuake | 12:11 |
| nexia | I guess my bad, I didn't know what to expect. | 12:11 |
| nexia | Well, I was also wanting to use that with i3, some of my friends have said nice things about it and termite. | 12:12 |
| lordievader | I3 is nice :) | 12:12 |
| nexia | yep, it's to the point, although I haven't got around to doing the config properly yet. (And I still like beautiful old plasma 5...when it doesn't crash.) | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | yakuake would still work | 12:13 |
| nexia | I'll give that a try, but I'm liking terminator atm :D | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | no need for a ppa | 12:14 |
| nexia | so a bit offtopic, but there really is no command that I can use to check my KDE/plasma version from the terminal? | 12:14 |
| lordievader | nexia: I guess dbus will tell you. | 12:15 |
| nexia | yay. dist-upgrade command not failing...(note that I changed servers from software sources to 'main server' because indian one was giving errors) | 12:16 |
| nexia | which is a pity. | 12:16 |
| BluesKaj | .00.. | 12:17 |
| BluesKaj | oops | 12:18 |
| BluesKaj | the indian servers suffer from intermittent disconnects | 12:19 |
| BluesKaj | not the first compalint I've seen about them | 12:19 |
| nexia | ah. | 12:21 |
| BluesKaj | most users with that problem use the main server | 12:21 |
| nexia | heh, Ic. | 12:22 |
| BluesKaj | not just India, many other countries have repos access problems too | 12:22 |
| BluesKaj | node congestion from what I've heard | 12:23 |
| nexia | ah :| | 12:27 |
| nexia | wow, installing sure takes long heh. | 12:31 |
| nexia | woo, done, re-booting =) | 12:33 |
| heeen | which package provides libkdeinit5_kwrited.so | 12:37 |
| voicu | Hello | 12:42 |
| voicu | does anyone else have problems with the activity bar losing focus? | 12:42 |
| voicu | i.e. I have this http://i.imgur.com/ddD9ICJ.png and when I write something in the search box the text goes to the previously focused window | 12:45 |
| voicu | the same happens when I click the add activity button and try to write the new activity's name | 12:45 |
| voicu | the up/down arrows also fail to change the selection | 12:46 |
| voicu | this is an intermittent problem. Sometimes (I'm not sure when/how) the keys work OK | 12:46 |
| nexia | hi | 13:12 |
| nexia | so, same progress bar splash not loading :( | 13:12 |
| nexia | ...it hangs | 13:12 |
| nexia | even after update to 5.3 (hey, the wallpaper automatically changed in the lock screen, I know it updated :p) | 13:13 |
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| heeen | damn it | 14:12 |
| heeen | I reinstalled 5.10 from scratch and did a dist-upgrade and I get dependency errors | 14:12 |
| heeen | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11702206/ | 14:13 |
| heeen | I think this is what broke my powerdevil before | 14:13 |
| lordievader | heeen: Did you try what it says? | 14:15 |
| heeen | lordievader: I have been trying to fix a powerdevil not being able to load error for a whole day I'd like to not end up in the same situation again | 14:17 |
| heeen | and that is impossible to debug | 14:18 |
| heeen | no log files, not able to run from commandline as it is some plugin to kded | 14:18 |
| heeen | ah well | 14:21 |
| heeen | lets try anyways | 14:22 |
| lordievader | Powerdevil can be a pita. Make sure the service is running. | 14:23 |
| heeen | it was not able to run | 14:24 |
| heeen | and that is all that I know | 14:24 |
| heeen | because no one was able to tell me how to enable kded debug logs | 14:24 |
| heeen | and it does not seem to be documented anywhere | 14:24 |
| lordievader | Hmm, usually it shows an error for a brief second. | 14:25 |
| lordievader | Usually something with acpid not running. | 14:25 |
| heeen | no just not able to | 14:25 |
| heeen | is all it says | 14:26 |
| heeen | and .xsession-errors is very sparse | 14:26 |
| lordievader | Hmm... :( | 14:26 |
| BluesKaj | sudo suspend session? | 14:28 |
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| BluesKaj | heeen, if all else fails , sudo pm-suspend , should put your laptop to sleep | 14:40 |
| BluesKaj | it will save your session | 14:40 |
| nexia | BluesKaj: still here? :) | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | nexia, yup | 14:47 |
| nexia | BluesKaj: did you read what I said above? ^^ | 14:48 |
| nexia | (I seriously don't mean to be a noob and be awkward, and like, ask one person lol) | 14:49 |
| BluesKaj | nexia, did you delete the ppa from /etc/apt/sources.list.d as well ? in krunner kdesudo dolphin /etc/apt/sources.list.d | 14:49 |
| nexia | BluesKaj: no, didn't delete it, just disabled it from software sources | 14:49 |
| nexia | should I do that? | 14:50 |
| BluesKaj | you should check , just in case the package manager didn't remove it | 14:50 |
| heeen | just great | 14:51 |
| heeen | after the dist-upgrade and install -f powerdevil doesn't work again | 14:51 |
| heeen | what a crap show | 14:51 |
| BluesKaj | sudo apt -f install, heeen | 14:52 |
| heeen | that is EXACTLY what I did BluesKaj | 14:52 |
| heeen | and it broke powerdevil | 14:52 |
| BluesKaj | have you considered just suspendin from the cli like a I suggested above | 14:53 |
| BluesKaj | powerdevil has been buggy for a few releases now iirc | 14:54 |
| heeen | who is the integrator | 14:54 |
| BluesKaj | integrator? | 14:55 |
| heeen | hmm there seems to have been an update to kpackagetools just now | 14:55 |
| heeen | lets see if that helps | 14:55 |
| heeen | BluesKaj: the guy building packages and making sure the dependencies are correct | 14:56 |
| nexia | BluesKaj: yeah, the two ppa files belonging to that gnome terminator are still here | 14:58 |
| BluesKaj | nexia, then delete them | 14:59 |
| heeen | does powerdevil do anything else apart from suspend | 14:59 |
| heeen | like cpu scaling | 14:59 |
| lordievader | Usually it is responsible for the display brightness too. | 15:04 |
| lordievader | Cpu scaling is done by the kernel. Not the powerdevil. | 15:05 |
| nexia | BluesKaj: and do sudo apt-get update once I finish doing so I guess | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | nexia, yes | 15:05 |
| nexia | ty, just making sure | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | heeen, cpufreq-utils | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | or cpufrequtils | 15:06 |
| BluesKaj | think the default setting is ondemand | 15:07 |
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| capsadmin | hi | 15:33 |
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| capsadmin | is there a way to profile kde or do i have to get a debug build for it? | 15:38 |
| capsadmin | overall the gui is kinda slow ish on my poor old laptop | 15:38 |
| capsadmin | hmm i guess i could try disabling effects and such first but i'd be interested to know if there's anything specific that's slowing it down | 15:39 |
| TJ- | capsadmin: depends on what the 'it' is that's slowing down... do you mean rendering the interface, or some process using lots of CPU % | 15:41 |
| capsadmin | i found an fps meter thing and the fps seems pretty stable | 15:44 |
| capsadmin | so probably cpu related | 15:44 |
| TJ- | capsadmin: maybe a lowlatency flavour kernel would help, rather than the -generic flavour | 15:45 |
| capsadmin | one thing ḯm noticing now is the os freezing for a short bit every now and then | 15:45 |
| capsadmin | lowlatency flavour kernel? | 15:47 |
| BluesKaj | capsadmin, look in system settings>search and make sure it's not enabled unless you need the indexing | 15:53 |
| BluesKaj | systemsettings>search>filesearch | 15:54 |
| capsadmin | it was enabled and disabling it made everything a lot better | 15:54 |
| capsadmin | now the system doesn't freeze every other second for 200~ ms | 15:55 |
| BluesKaj | kwallet is another daemon that i don''t use | 15:55 |
| capsadmin | so there's no profiling thing? like i wanna see what's going on when i try to open a folder | 15:58 |
| capsadmin | it doesn't freeze or anything but it just takes roughly 2 seconds for dolphin to appear with the folders content | 15:58 |
| BluesKaj | capsadmin, one other thing , you can disable startup of baloo/search index in systemsettings>startup&shutdown>desktop session, then type baloo or akonadi-server or whatever daemon or app you don't want started up at boot | 16:06 |
| BluesKaj | in the "applications to be excluded...." field | 16:07 |
| capsadmin | alright thanks | 16:11 |
| capsadmin | disabling search entirely disables searching in dolphin too which i find useful | 16:11 |
| BluesKaj | but I'm a home user so searching for files isn't as important as a production machine might need | 16:13 |
| BluesKaj | ok , errands to run and other things ...BBL | 16:14 |
| capsadmin | i think it's called "Search Folder Updater" | 16:14 |
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