[02:03] <Lynkzz> hello all
[02:03] <Lynkzz> Thanks for kubuntu, kodibuntu
[02:04] <Lynkzz> longlive LINUX
[03:11] <eryndiamonds> hi. I need help with a couple of things. first is the system notification helper keeps popping up saying I need flashplugin-installer. I already have it installed.
[03:12] <eryndiamonds> second is after an update of chromium a bunch of apps quit working
[03:13] <eryndiamonds> and third my system has slowed to a crawl
[03:16] <eryndiamonds> is anyone available?
[03:21] <eryndiamonds> brb restroom
[03:23] <eryndiamonds> back. still waiting on a response to my issues
[03:27] <eryndiamonds> oh well. I guess I will try to figure it out on my own.
[04:30] <haze-bot> I have multiple problems that I need help with, if anyone is interested that is.
[04:41] <haze-bot> I have multiple problems that I need help with, if anyone is interested that is.
[04:52] <valorie> haze-bot: what problems?
[04:52] <valorie> in a help chan, people generally speak up if they know how to help
[04:58] <haze-bot> alright thanks for the info. The first problem i have is that i can't add any repositories
[05:02] <regedit> hello
[05:03] <regedit> so what's the current way of making the Windows key do what Windows-ians expect it to do (pop open the main "start menu")
[05:04] <haze-bot> woudln't you just asign the key that opens the menu to the windows key?
[05:04] <valorie> haze-bot: how did you try to add the repo?
[05:04] <valorie> and which repo
[05:05] <valorie> oh, and I think that the win key can't be used alone, but only with other keys
[05:05] <haze-bot> valorie: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pipelight/stable
[05:06] <regedit> so, basically, what you're telling me is, sounds like, the point is, at the end of the day,
[05:06] <regedit> it's not possible?
[05:07] <valorie> regedit: I could be wrong, but I think not
[05:07] <regedit> please be wrong
[05:07] <valorie> haze-bot: when you made that command, what was the output?
[05:08] <regedit> I am actually giving linux a serious try now, possibly move away from Windoes for a long time to come
[05:08] <regedit> and I find out there can be no shortcuts less than 2 keys?...
[05:09] <valorie> regedit: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=84602
[05:09] <finley> >..>
[05:09] <valorie> there are one-key shortcuts
[05:09] <valorie> but not the win key
[05:09] <haze-bot> valorie: um its like 3 paragrapgs and Konversation is warning me about flooding and stuff
[05:10] <haze-bot> paragraphs*
[05:10] <valorie> !paste
[05:10] <valorie> haze-bot: ^^^
[05:11] <haze-bot> valorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700328/
[05:12] <valorie> woah, weird
[05:12] <haze-bot> yeah
[05:12] <finley> ........................
[05:12] <haze-bot> no matter what repository this happens
[05:12] <bshah> is your clock right?
[05:12] <haze-bot> me?
[05:12] <bshah> yes
[05:13] <bshah> computer clock I mean
[05:13] <haze-bot> says 112am
[05:13] <haze-bot> just changed to 13
[05:13] <bshah> and date?
[05:13] <haze-bot> 12th of june
[05:13] <bshah> hmm
[05:13] <haze-bot> friday
[05:13] <valorie> you could paste the line `deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pipelight/stable/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main` directly into your sources.list
[05:14] <haze-bot> umm im new to this.
[05:14] <valorie> !repositories
[05:14] <valorie> haze-bot: we all started out new
[05:14] <valorie> that's not a problem
[05:15] <haze-bot> Muon Discover hangs a lot which is one of my other reasons
[05:16] <haze-bot> problems not reasons
[05:17] <valorie> ah, I don't like discover
[05:18] <valorie> I prefer a package manager over a software center
[05:18] <valorie> and usually just use apt anyway
[05:18] <haze-bot> i don't like it either
[05:18] <finley> haha
[05:18] <valorie> I would uninstall it except that I test things for people, often
[05:20] <haze-bot> muon won't take the repository
[05:20] <haze-bot> and it crashed
[05:21] <valorie> well, right there on the repo page there is a place to report problems
[05:21] <valorie> I would do so
[05:21] <haze-bot> opened it up again and the repository still isn't there
[05:21] <valorie> put in your paste in your bug report
[05:21] <haze-bot> um this is any repository not just pipelight
[05:22] <valorie> ooo
[05:22] <bshah> haze-bot: muon crashing is related to your error message
[05:22] <valorie> and yet you are able to update and upgrade normally, haze-bot?
[05:22] <haze-bot> no
[05:23] <haze-bot> hang on let me show you waht happens when i update
[05:24] <haze-bot> what*
[05:25] <haze-bot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700356/
[05:26] <valorie> well, you are clearly not connecting to the archive
[05:26] <valorie> but that paste doesn't tell why
[05:27] <valorie> but it seems you haven't removed the CDROM as a source
[05:27] <valorie> please do that
[05:27] <haze-bot> i try to do apt-cdrom but this happens http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700358/
[05:27] <valorie> no no, remove it
[05:27] <haze-bot> um okay? from muon right?
[05:27] <valorie> you don't want that unless you don't have any internet connection
[05:27] <valorie> sure
[05:29] <haze-bot> it won't let me from muon. Can i do it via the terminal?
[05:29] <valorie> well, you can edit your source.list
[05:29] <haze-bot> where is that?
[05:29] <valorie> the link I posted earlier tells you how to do that
[05:30] <valorie> !repositories
[05:30] <valorie> ubottu: ?
[05:30] <valorie> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[05:31] <haze-bot> it doesn't tell me where the list is
[05:34] <valorie> haze-bot: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:34] <valorie> which you need kdesudo to edit, as I recall
[05:35] <valorie> so `kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list`
[05:35] <Unit193> Generally better to add extras in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[05:35] <haze-bot> Want me to delete deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 15.04 _Vivid Vervet_ - Release amd64 (20150422)]/ vivid main multiverse restricted universe?
[05:35] <haze-bot> Unit193: extras?
[05:37] <valorie> rather than deleting, just comment out by putting # at the beginning of the line
[05:38] <valorie> that way if you ever decide to add it back, you can just remove the hash mark
[05:38] <valorie> Unit193: haze-bot needs to remove the cdrom as a source
[05:38] <valorie> and muon is crashing for some reason
[05:38] <Unit193> Oh, weird.  Usually happens on install.
[05:39] <valorie> yes, just once to me
[05:39] <valorie> in all these years
[05:39] <valorie> once grub went onto the USB too
[05:39] <valorie> THAT was a trip
[05:39] <haze-bot> won't let me save the list
[05:40] <haze-bot> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list.
[05:43] <valorie> and you used kdesudo and entered your password when asked?
[05:44] <haze-bot> kate
[05:45] <haze-bot> the one that comes pre-installed when you install Kubuntu 15.01 (current version i believe)\
[05:48] <valorie> I gave you the command, above
[05:48] <valorie> kdesudo is how you use kate as root
[05:48] <valorie> `kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list`
[05:48] <valorie> without the ticks
[05:49] <haze-bot> oh sorry
[05:51] <haze-bot> i put the hashtag like you recommended and I re-entered the command Sudo apt-get update and i will paste the results when its done
[05:52] <haze-bot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700428/
[05:53] <haze-bot> ignore the top bit because i forgot about the kate bit
[05:54] <haze-bot> still have repository issues.http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700442/
[05:57] <haze-bot> tried with a different repository to no avail. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700450/
[06:03] <valorie> gosh, kdesudo
[06:03] <valorie> not sudo
[06:05] <valorie> ok
[06:05] <valorie> so strange, I really don't understand that
[06:06] <haze-bot> sudo is for root privalages right?
[06:06] <valorie> now that you've done update though, try: `sudo apt full-upgrade`
[06:06] <valorie> which will remove packages if needed
[06:06] <valorie> better than dist-upgrade
[06:07] <haze-bot> 0
[06:07] <valorie> just in case there is an update to ssl
[06:07] <haze-bot> nothing changed
[06:07] <valorie> since that is part of the error report
[06:07] <valorie> ok, so you are fully upgraded, that's good to know
[06:08] <valorie> but it seems that apt-add-repository isn't fetching the key automatically
[06:08] <valorie> and yes, sudo is for root privs, however, kdesudo should always be used for running a gui as root
[06:09] <haze-bot> i don't know if this helps but when i installed Kubuntu i encrypted it so i need a password to turn on
[06:09] <valorie> ALWAYS
[06:09] <haze-bot> and for some reason there was a additional encrptions whose password was just pressing enter
[06:09] <valorie> I assume you had already logged in properly, so you are running inside the encrypted session
[06:09] <haze-bot> yes
[06:10] <valorie> that will have no effect one way or the other
[06:10] <valorie> I'm out of ideas
[06:10] <haze-bot> File "/usr/lib/python3.4/ssl.py", line 437, in create_default_context
[06:10] <haze-bot>     context.load_verify_locations(cafile, capath, cadata)
[06:10] <valorie> bshah, Unit193 - ideas?
[06:10] <haze-bot> opps anyways after that line is where the first error occurs
[06:11] <valorie> at least it isn't looking for the cdrom
[06:11] <haze-bot> hey silver lining and all that jazz!
[06:11] <valorie> it's possible that launchpad itself is glitching
[06:12] <Unit193> ca-cert* I presume is installed/
[06:12] <haze-bot> what is that?
[06:15] <haze-bot> what are the odds of us meeting/reading each other again in case this isn't solved before you (or me) decides to sleep?
[06:16] <Unit193> She's on here in the evening (my time) a fair bit, so not unlikely.
[06:17] <haze-bot> east or west coast (or not in America, never know)
[06:17] <haze-bot> for timezone
[06:18] <Unit193> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/solved-issues-with-adding-ppa-repositories/1505
[06:18] <Unit193> Nah, I'm EDT America/New_York, etc.
[06:19] <Unit193> But to me kind of sounds like you should just run update-ca-certificates and check what's up.
[06:20] <haze-bot> link you gave said to format and reinstall
[06:20] <valorie> haze-bot: you will need sudo for that commad
[06:20] <valorie> haze-bot: one person did that
[06:20] <valorie> there was another answer
[06:21] <haze-bot> i know and it worked!
[06:21] <valorie> not all PPAs get updated
[06:21] <valorie> people lose interest, etc.
[06:21] <haze-bot> why was it the certificates that was the problem?
[06:21] <valorie> not sure
[06:22] <valorie> I ran the same command and got 0 to update
[06:22] <haze-bot> well i thank you for the 2 hours you helped me Valorie and I thank you Unit193 for helping me out too
[06:22] <valorie> haze-bot: that's why we're here!
[06:23] <haze-bot> it said 0 for me also but it still worked
[06:23] <valorie> glad I could help
[06:23] <Unit193> valorie: Oh hah, I didn't see that one either! :P
[06:23] <Unit193> haze-bot: Sure, though valorie did more. :)
[06:24] <haze-bot> Once again thank you Valorie. I'm going to finish what i was doing before this mess then sleep. Goodnight and see y'all around
[06:24] <valorie> sleep well, haze-bot
[06:24] <valorie> you are most welcome
[06:55] <RobinHood2015> Is there any way to customize what the "Lock Screen" command does in Plasma 5?
[06:58] <nexia> the lockscreen keybinding? Ctrl+ALT+L ?
[06:58] <nexia> RobinHood2015 ^
[06:59] <RobinHood2015> Well, yes, that as well, but also the "Lock Screen" command in the Kickoff menu.
[07:21] <edition> I have installed kubuntu, but it displays a black screen. Although, it can boot successfully from a live cd.
[07:22] <capsadmin> what's this noise pattern? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/244444/snapshot1.png
[07:22] <capsadmin> i've seen it on my phone too i think
[07:23] <james_lan> edition: try going to recovery and see if you have an option for systemd or upstart.
[07:23] <james_lan> See if that works
[07:23] <valorie> edition: which version of kubuntu did you install?
[07:23] <edition> 14.04
[07:23] <valorie> hmmm
[07:24] <valorie> it's been so long since I ran that, I'm not much good
[07:24] <capsadmin> edition: black screen as in it's turned off or do you have a cursor?
[07:24] <edition> black screen, no cursor. But the system is responsive.
[07:25] <james_lan> responsive how?
[07:26] <edition> As in the kernel responds to pressing the power button, and the keyboard Caps lock and num lock.
[07:27] <james_lan> If you do CTRL-ALT-F2 does it bring you to a login prompt?
[07:29] <edition> I will try it again, as I am currently using IRC via the kubuntu live cd.
[07:29] <james_lan> One moment then
[07:30] <james_lan> What I'm wondering is if it's a problem with X or with fb
[07:30] <james_lan> Drat
[07:37] <carlos_> just came by to say good night
[07:37] <carlos_> I love linux, kde, kubuntu
[07:57] <edition> Alt+F2 didn't work.
[07:57] <edition> Neither did CTRL+Alt+F2.
[08:12] <heeen> can anyone help me get powerdevil running
[08:13] <heeen> I can't start it from background services or commandline
[08:13] <amichair> Hi, plasma5 just crashed on me when I clicked the usb icon in system tray. Then it restarted, but with my desktop (widgets and all) moved to the wrong monitor. How can I move it all back to the main monitor?
[08:28] <edition> kubuntu 14.04 still displays a black screen on bootup.
[08:40] <amichair> is there a way to move an entire desktop (containment, is it called?) to another monitor in a multiple-monitor setup?
[08:43] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:44] <amichair> morning, lordievader
[08:45] <lordievader> Hey amichair
[08:54] <freed0m> hi all
[08:55] <freed0m> is the possibile to add more rscreen resolution to my nvidia driver?
[08:55] <freed0m> my highest its
[08:55] <freed0m> 1366
[09:09] <edition> The kubuntu live cd works, but the actual boot up doesn't.
[09:10] <lordievader> So, what does the actual boot do?
[09:10] <edition> sorry, when it boots from the hard drive.
[09:11] <lordievader> I got that ;)
[09:11] <freed0m> is the possibile to add more rscreen resolution to my nvidia driver? mi highest its 1366, i want put something higher
[09:12] <lordievader> freed0m: If the card and monitor support it, sure.
[09:13] <lordievader> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu
[09:29] <amichair> is there a way to move an entire desktop (containment, is it called?) to another monitor in a multiple-monitor setup?
[09:37] <edition> should I try Kubuntu  15.04 instead?
[09:43] <lordievader> edition: First explain what happens when you boot the install.
[09:43] <Walex2> amichair: what does that mean?
[09:43] <Walex2> freed0m: yes, you can.
[09:44] <Walex2> freed0m: using the usual technique of writing an 'xorg.conf' file
[09:44] <amichair> Walex2: I have two monitors. when plasma 5 occasionally crashes, for some reason the whole desktop (files, widgets, wallpaper, etc.) moves from my primary monitor to the secondary one (which is on the left)
[09:44] <amichair> and I want to move it all back, rather than configuring everything from scratch each time
[09:45] <Walex2> amichair: ahhhhh
[09:46] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[09:46] <edition> lordievader: Its just black, but the caps lock and num lock works. Ctrl+Alt+F2 does not display a text shell.
[09:46] <lordievader> edition: Try the nomodeset kernel parameter.
[09:46] <Walex2> amichair: that's regrettably I think the result of a known problem: for the sake of speed many KDE thingies don't save properly ('fsync') their configuration files, so crashes at unlucky moments result in bad things happening.
[09:47] <edition> lordievader: I don't have write access to my HD, via the live dvd.
[09:47] <lordievader> edition: You set that kernel parameter in the grub menu.
[09:48] <Walex2> amichair: what's happening to you though is mostly likely to be that "primary" and "secondary" are defined differently by you and the X driver.
[09:48] <edition> ok.
[09:48] <Walex2> amichair: if you add some configuration to 'xorg.conf' you can tell the X system which one you want as primary and which as secondary.
[09:48] <amichair> Walex2: in system settings the geography and primary display have not changed
[09:49] <Walex2> amichair: that's surprising.
[09:49] <Walex2> amichair: then the second most likely thing is that the "activity" config has not been saved properly.
[09:50] <amichair> Walex2: I don't use activities, but I suppose there's a default one you're referring to
[09:50] <amichair> Walex2: and the config itself of all the contents is ok, just somehow got associated with a different physical monitor
[09:51] <Walex2> amichair: a default one per monitor
[09:51] <amichair> Walex2: the primary display reverted to default wallpaper and nothing else on it
[09:52] <edition> kubuntu looks great.
[09:52] <amichair> Walex2: can I move the activity from one monitor to another?
[09:52] <Walex2> amichair: yes.
[09:52] <Walex2> amichair: at least with version 4. I don't know about 5.
[09:52] <amichair> Walex2: perhaps you remember how?
[09:54] <amichair> Walex2: to be more precise, I have 3 displays (also a TV that's usually off)
[09:55] <amichair> Walex2: I just checked, and it still has its config intact, it seems
[09:55] <amichair> so desktops/activities 1/2/3 changed to 2/new/3 (or possibly 2/new/1, since original 1/3 looked the same so I can't distinguish)
[09:58] <amichair> btw, personally, I never got 'activities'. I wonder how many KDE users actually use them... any stats on that?
[10:05] <BluesKaj> amichair, activities has never been properly explained IMO, and most users just use the virtual desktops instead afaik
[10:06] <amichair> BluesKaj: I don't use virtual desktops either, so maybe I'm not the target audience in the first place
[10:06] <lordievader> I use both.
[10:06] <amichair> seriously, are there stats on activities usage anywhere?
[10:07] <BluesKaj> heh, well I guess I'm not targeted by the activities devs either :-)
[10:10] <BluesKaj> I wonder when krunner entries will be remembered in the drop down like they did in kde/plasma 4
[10:11] <BluesKaj> that was a handy feature, which i really miss
[10:11] <amichair> BluesKaj: open a bug and hope for the best...
[10:12] <amichair> hmmm... from what I'm reading there is only one activity across all monitors, but with a separate containment for each monitor
[10:13] <amichair> so is it possible to move a containment?
[10:13] <BluesKaj> don't think it's a bug , think it's deliberate, similar to dropping of different wall papers for each VD
[10:14] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Wishlist stuff is usually also issues as a bug.
[10:14] <amichair> if something worked and stopped working, I'd say it's a regression bug, not a wish/feature/enhancement...
[10:16] <amichair> and if it was dropped on purpose, it's a malicious regression bug :-)
[10:17] <BluesKaj> amichair, I read a converstion in #kubuntu-devel about the the delberate elimination of the VD wallpapers because of complexity
[10:17] <BluesKaj> conversation
[10:18] <amichair> well I suppose I'm lucky I don't use VDs. One less malicious regression bug to be frustrated about :-P
[10:18] <BluesKaj> between JR and one of the other iop devs
[10:18] <lordievader> VD wallpapers != krunner regression
[10:19]  * BluesKaj tries to shed more light on his KB
[10:20] <amichair> can't find anything about moving containments or activities or desktops or whatever it is that decided to move to the wrong monitor
[10:20] <BluesKaj> the VDs work just fine , but just miss having a different background on each
[10:21] <lordievader> BluesKaj: What I mean is that you can still file a bug against krunner. That the VD thing is a lost cause doesn't mean the krunner bug is.
[10:44] <BluesKaj> ok lordievader,  Bug 349057
[10:44] <lordievader> I get a 404.
[10:45] <BluesKaj> yup, dunno what's wrong
[10:47] <BluesKaj> well I submitted it , it  was given a bug number, so what's next then?
[10:47] <BluesKaj> bug 349057
[10:48] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Keep an eye on it, see what happens with it.
[10:48] <BluesKaj> well that's obvious, lordievader
[10:49] <lordievader> Also why did you file it against openevsys?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> I didn't
[10:49] <lordievader> kde bug 349057
[10:49] <BluesKaj> filed it as general
[10:49] <lordievader> Is that the one?
[10:50] <BluesKaj> yup
[10:50] <BluesKaj> it tool a while
[10:50] <BluesKaj> took
[10:50] <lordievader> No, the bot looks in Launchpad per default.
[10:50] <lordievader> You need to specify the KDE bug tracker if you want that one.
[11:01] <BluesKaj> lordievader, the kde bug tracker just took me back tom the same reort pagfe I used to file the first bug, I'm duplicating here'
[11:02] <BluesKaj> report page
[11:03] <BluesKaj> I'm going to leave it as is,
[11:42] <nexia> um
[11:43] <nexia> help? :D
[11:43] <lordievader> !ask | nexia
[11:43] <nexia> I tried upgrading to 15.04 5.3 but like...I kept getting this 404 thing
[11:43] <nexia> lordievader: lol I know, sorry.
[11:44] <nexia> I just don't /remember/ what error it exactly was.
[11:44] <nexia> *checks google history*
[11:44] <nexia> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net vivid/main amd64 Packages404  Not Found
[11:45] <nexia> this and another one, after running the 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[11:45] <nexia> command
[11:46] <nexia> I rebooted after that, but I think I can safely assume it didn't really upgrade. 1) plasmashell STILL kept crashing 2) "about system" showed 5.2.2 plasma version IIRC
[11:46] <nexia> now...what's happening is
[11:47] <nexia> plasma splash loading screen progress bar (after sddm, entering password and hitting enter) reaches like 40% and then hangs forever
[11:48] <nexia> Luckily, I have another WM installed, so using that right now.
[11:50] <BluesKaj> nexia, upgrading from 14.10 via the internet/ repos?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> to 15.04?
[11:51] <nexia> stock 15.04
[11:51] <nexia> to 5.3 KDE i guess
[11:51] <nexia> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/kde-plasma-5-3-released-heres-how-to-upgrade-in-kubuntu-15-04 <---
[11:51] <BluesKaj> how are you installing 15.05 ?
[11:51] <BluesKaj> 15.04
[11:52] <nexia> I already..dual booted that..
[11:52] <nexia> Like, I downloaded the .ISO file and dual booted :P
[11:53] <nexia> is there a command to check what 'Plasma' version I have currently from the command line?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> oh a phone, that's not my strong suit , no experience with that
[11:56] <nexia> uh, 'phone'? Also, I think it's this one terminator ppa that's causing this, not sure. disabling it from software sources and updating again.
[11:56] <BluesKaj> if you're on a laptop or desktop this is where to get the iso file, http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[11:57] <nexia> I'm using a laptop currently - my issue is with a laptop system =)
[11:57] <BluesKaj> why did yo post a phone site
[11:58] <nexia> idgi, the link I pasted isn't a mobile URL.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> idgi?
[11:59] <nexia> Sorry. I don't get it *
[12:00] <BluesKaj> sorry, I misread, anyway the official site is the one I posted
[12:02] <nexia> 2015-06-11 08:40:52     BluesKaj        upgrade to plasma 5.3 fixes a lot of problems, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/kde-plasma-5-3-released-heres-how-to-upgrade-$
[12:02] <nexia> 2015-06-11 08:41:40     BluesKaj        nexia,^
[12:02] <nexia> I'm talking about that one.
[12:02] <nexia> BluesKaj: yep ^^
[12:03] <BluesKaj> well, best to ask in here rather than follow tutoials that can be out of date
[12:03] <nexia> ah
[12:03] <nexia> hm, sudo apt-get update'd without a hitch after I removed that ppa..
[12:04] <BluesKaj> especially their links to isos
[12:05] <lordievader> nexia: About your 404 problem, looks like you have a ppa configured that doesn't  have an vivid component.
[12:06] <nexia> lordievader: yeah, I feel silly for not running sudo-apt update and seeing the exact one before asking over here :|
[12:06] <nexia> it was a terminator ppa, I disabled that from muon software sources.
[12:07] <nexia> TIL. even one troublesome ppa can interrupt the whole upgrade process to 5.3 ><
[12:08] <BluesKaj> nexia, terminator ppa? never heard of that one
[12:09] <nexia> I'll just paste it. W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome-terminator/ppa/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[12:09] <nexia> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome-terminator/ppa/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[12:10] <BluesKaj> nexia, tha's a gnome ppa , what's that for?
[12:10] <lordievader> Heh, gnome stuff...
[12:10] <lordievader> Terminator is a drop down terminal like Quake, or however it was called, right?
[12:11] <nexia> (note that I installed terminator following instructions from http://gnometerminator.blogspot.in/p/introduction.html )
[12:11] <nexia> (installation instructions for ubuntu)
[12:11] <lordievader> Gauke*
[12:11] <nexia> BluesKaj: replacement for Konsole...terminal emulator
[12:11] <BluesKaj> kde has yakuake
[12:11] <nexia> I guess my bad, I didn't know what to expect.
[12:12] <nexia> Well, I was also wanting to use that with i3, some of my friends have said nice things about it and termite.
[12:12] <lordievader> I3 is nice :)
[12:13] <nexia> yep, it's to the point, although I haven't got around to doing the config properly yet. (And I still like beautiful old plasma 5...when it doesn't crash.)
[12:13] <BluesKaj> yakuake would still work
[12:13] <nexia> I'll give that a try, but I'm liking terminator atm :D
[12:14] <BluesKaj> no need for a ppa
[12:14] <nexia> so a bit offtopic, but there really is no command that I can use to check my KDE/plasma version from the terminal?
[12:15] <lordievader> nexia: I guess dbus will tell you.
[12:16] <nexia> yay. dist-upgrade command not failing...(note that I changed servers from software sources to 'main server' because indian one was giving errors)
[12:16] <nexia> which is a pity.
[12:17] <BluesKaj> .00..
[12:18] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:19] <BluesKaj> the indian servers suffer from intermittent disconnects
[12:19] <BluesKaj> not the first compalint I've seen about them
[12:21] <nexia> ah.
[12:21] <BluesKaj> most users with that problem use the main server
[12:22] <nexia> heh, Ic.
[12:22] <BluesKaj> not just India, many other countries have repos access problems too
[12:23] <BluesKaj> node congestion from what I've heard
[12:27] <nexia> ah :|
[12:31] <nexia> wow, installing sure takes long heh.
[12:33] <nexia> woo, done, re-booting =)
[12:37] <heeen> which package provides libkdeinit5_kwrited.so
[12:42] <voicu> Hello
[12:42] <voicu> does anyone else have problems with the activity bar losing focus?
[12:45] <voicu> i.e. I have this http://i.imgur.com/ddD9ICJ.png and when I write something in the search box the text goes to the previously focused window
[12:45] <voicu> the same happens when I click the add activity button and try to write the new activity's name
[12:46] <voicu> the up/down arrows also fail to change the selection
[12:46] <voicu> this is an intermittent problem. Sometimes (I'm not sure when/how) the keys work OK
[13:12] <nexia> hi
[13:12] <nexia> so, same progress bar splash not loading :(
[13:12] <nexia> ...it hangs
[13:13] <nexia> even after update to 5.3 (hey, the wallpaper automatically changed in the lock screen, I know it updated :p)
[14:12] <heeen> damn it
[14:12] <heeen> I reinstalled 5.10 from scratch and did a dist-upgrade and I get dependency errors
[14:13] <heeen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11702206/
[14:13] <heeen> I think this is what broke my powerdevil before
[14:15] <lordievader> heeen: Did you try what it says?
[14:17] <heeen> lordievader: I have been trying to fix a powerdevil not being able to load error for a whole day I'd like to not end up in the same situation again
[14:18] <heeen> and that is impossible to debug
[14:18] <heeen> no log files, not able to run from commandline as it is some plugin to kded
[14:21] <heeen> ah well
[14:22] <heeen> lets try anyways
[14:23] <lordievader> Powerdevil can be a pita. Make sure the service is running.
[14:24] <heeen> it was not able to run
[14:24] <heeen> and that is all that I know
[14:24] <heeen> because no one was able to tell me how to enable kded debug logs
[14:24] <heeen> and it does not seem to be documented anywhere
[14:25] <lordievader> Hmm, usually it shows an error for a brief second.
[14:25] <lordievader> Usually something with acpid not running.
[14:25] <heeen> no just not able to
[14:26] <heeen> is all it says
[14:26] <heeen> and .xsession-errors is very sparse
[14:26] <lordievader> Hmm... :(
[14:28] <BluesKaj> sudo suspend session?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> heeen, if all else fails , sudo pm-suspend , should put your laptop to sleep
[14:40] <BluesKaj> it will save your session
[14:45] <nexia> BluesKaj: still here? :)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> nexia, yup
[14:48] <nexia> BluesKaj: did you read what I said above? ^^
[14:49] <nexia> (I seriously don't mean to be a noob and be awkward, and like, ask one person lol)
[14:49] <BluesKaj> nexia, did you delete the ppa from /etc/apt/sources.list.d  as well ? in krunner kdesudo dolphin  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:49] <nexia> BluesKaj: no, didn't delete it, just disabled it from software sources
[14:50] <nexia> should I do that?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> you should check , just in case the package manager didn't remove it
[14:51] <heeen> just great
[14:51] <heeen> after the dist-upgrade and install -f powerdevil doesn't work again
[14:51] <heeen> what a crap show
[14:52] <BluesKaj> sudo apt  -f install, heeen
[14:52] <heeen> that is EXACTLY what I did BluesKaj
[14:52] <heeen> and it broke powerdevil
[14:53] <BluesKaj> have you considered just suspendin from the cli like a I suggested above
[14:54] <BluesKaj> powerdevil has been buggy for a few releases now iirc
[14:54] <heeen> who is the integrator
[14:55] <BluesKaj> integrator?
[14:55] <heeen> hmm there seems to have been an update to kpackagetools just now
[14:55] <heeen> lets see if that helps
[14:56] <heeen> BluesKaj: the guy building packages and making sure the dependencies are correct
[14:58] <nexia> BluesKaj: yeah, the two ppa files belonging to that gnome terminator are still here
[14:59] <BluesKaj> nexia, then delete them
[14:59] <heeen> does powerdevil do anything else apart from suspend
[14:59] <heeen> like cpu scaling
[15:04] <lordievader> Usually it is responsible for the display brightness too.
[15:05] <lordievader> Cpu scaling is done by the kernel. Not the powerdevil.
[15:05] <nexia> BluesKaj: and do sudo apt-get update once I finish doing so I guess
[15:05] <BluesKaj> nexia, yes
[15:05] <nexia> ty, just making sure
[15:05] <BluesKaj> heeen, cpufreq-utils
[15:06] <BluesKaj> or cpufrequtils
[15:07] <BluesKaj> think the default setting is ondemand
[15:33] <capsadmin> hi
[15:38] <capsadmin> is there a way to profile kde or do i have to get a debug build for it?
[15:38] <capsadmin> overall the gui is kinda slow ish on my poor old laptop
[15:39] <capsadmin> hmm i guess i could try disabling effects and such first but i'd be interested to know if there's anything specific that's slowing it down
[15:41] <TJ-> capsadmin: depends on what the 'it' is that's slowing down... do you mean rendering the interface, or some process using lots of CPU %
[15:44] <capsadmin> i found an fps meter thing and the fps seems pretty stable
[15:44] <capsadmin> so probably cpu related
[15:45] <TJ-> capsadmin: maybe a lowlatency flavour kernel would help, rather than the -generic flavour
[15:45] <capsadmin> one thing ḯm noticing now is the os freezing for a short bit every now and then
[15:47] <capsadmin> lowlatency flavour kernel?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> capsadmin, look in system settings>search and make sure it's not enabled unless you need the indexing
[15:54] <BluesKaj> systemsettings>search>filesearch
[15:54] <capsadmin> it was enabled and disabling it made everything a lot better
[15:55] <capsadmin> now the system doesn't freeze every other second for 200~ ms
[15:55] <BluesKaj> kwallet is another daemon that i don''t use
[15:58] <capsadmin> so there's no profiling thing? like i wanna see what's going on when i try to open a folder
[15:58] <capsadmin> it doesn't freeze or anything but it just takes roughly 2 seconds for dolphin to appear with the folders content
[16:06] <BluesKaj> capsadmin, one other thing , you can disable startup of baloo/search index in systemsettings>startup&shutdown>desktop session, then type baloo or akonadi-server or whatever daemon or app you don't want started up at boot
[16:07] <BluesKaj> in the "applications to be excluded...." field
[16:11] <capsadmin> alright thanks
[16:11] <capsadmin> disabling search entirely disables searching in dolphin too which i find useful
[16:13] <BluesKaj> but I'm a home user so searching for files isn't as important as a production machine might need
[16:14] <BluesKaj> ok , errands to run and other things ...BBL
[16:14] <capsadmin> i think it's called "Search Folder Updater"
[16:28] <hardy_> hi! kennt sich hier jeman mit thunderbird aus? (kubuntu 15.04)
[17:20] <hardy_> fragen sind hier wohl nicht erwünsch!
[18:26] <mparillo> !DE