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mardymzanetti: pong :-)06:43
bzoltanDanChapman: ping07:58
DanChapmanbzoltan: hey07:58
bzoltanDanChapman: hi, I am fighting with the Dekko :) I have set up the app on my other device long time ago and it could use my IMAP:993 account ... but now it does not seem to be able to authenticate... also the setting UI is a but broken (Nexus4)08:01
mzanettipopey, we need your decision power here :) https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/improve-edit-tags/+merge/261779/comments/65516508:02
popeyyo08:03
* popey puts on his wizards hat08:03
DanChapmanbzoltan: what image/channel are you using. The settings UI is a known issue on the devel-proposed channel, but so far seems ok on the rc-* channels.08:03
popeylemme build and test08:03
Frantiquehello all08:05
DanChapmanbzoltan: so is it you are just unable to select the correct auth settings?08:05
bzoltanDanChapman: http://picpaste.com/pics/screenshot-B6J5I6Xx.1434096167.png08:06
mzanettiDanChapman, I failed too08:06
Frantiqueguys, I need a fast review for a software update, who can help me?08:06
bzoltanDanChapman: I am not sure if the settings are correct...08:06
popeyFrantique: hmm?08:06
Frantiqueit is a desktop app published by me, I've uploaded an update to it a few weeks ago, but nothing happens.08:07
Frantiquethe app id (taken from the link) is: 377508:07
popeyah, ping beuno when he's around08:07
Frantiquepopey: thx08:08
mzanettiDanChapman, http://i.imgur.com/amGccgl.png08:08
popeynp08:08
mzanettiDanChapman, I fail to see where to change the port etc08:08
popeymzanetti: removed image08:08
mzanettihttp://i.imgur.com/amGccgI.png08:09
mzanettiI need a contenthub plugin to share Link to IRC08:09
mzanettiactually... shouldn't be too hard... just enter the channel and it logs on as guest and pastes the link08:10
popeythat'd get you kicked from some places for spam08:10
mzanettiI don't think that will be the case if I share an image link like once a week08:11
popeytry it08:11
popey:)08:11
mzanettiobviously if I do that every 5 minutes, but that would get me kicked with a normal IRC client too08:11
popeyright..08:11
popeyit's just the behaviour that spammers use. Arrive, post link, leave.08:12
popeyI wouldn't encourage that08:12
mzanettifair enough08:12
bzoltanDanChapman:  is there an option selectior for the security settings?08:12
bzoltanDanChapman: BTW I am on wily devel-proposed08:12
popeyyou probably dont want to be on that08:13
DanChapmanbzoltan: right so the issue is not being able to select the conenction method. I will get a bug filed to fix that. Could you take a look in ~/.config/dekko/dekkoproject/dekko.dekkoproject.conf and see if those settings havve been saved.08:13
popeyevery time someone mentions wily here, usually ogra_ mentions that it's just not supported / tested08:13
DanChapmanmzanetti: that's the basic setup screen. If we can't autofind your settings from the address domain then you will get the manual view. You can test by putting a random char in name, email & password and trying to save08:14
bzoltanpopey: I am testing it and do my best to support it too :D08:14
bzoltanDanChapman: in my ~/.config/dekko.dekkoproject there is no sign of my account08:17
ogra_popey, for endusers :P08:23
popeyhaha08:23
popeyokay08:23
ogra_popey, though i really dont thinnk we should even care for it ... but thats just me ...08:23
* ogra_ thinks our current dev model is all wrong 08:24
popeymzanetti: tried out the edit tag thing, what's the question/issue. In general I like it.08:26
mzanettipopey, if the audocompletion pop down thingie should be UbuntuShaped or not :)08:26
mzanettiwell, that was how the discussion started08:26
mzanettifeel free to give more general feedback on it08:26
mzanettibasically the question is if it is Ubuntuish enough08:27
popeyok08:27
DanChapmanbzoltan: you could set the settings manually using this as a template. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700937/ you only need to change the usernames, hosts and the identity & profile descriptions. It will ask for you password on app launch08:39
nikwenpopey: There seem to be some serious issues with how autopilot tests are run for the calculator app in my opinion.08:42
popeyhey nikwen !08:42
nikwenCheck out the discussion here: https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-calculator-app/fix-desktop-shortcuts/+merge/26174708:42
popeyoh? problem how?08:42
* popey will look in a moment, in a hangout08:42
nikwenOf course.08:42
popeynikwen: I'll take a look at the AP issue.08:43
popeythanks again for the terminal patch!08:43
popeywas lovely to see that this morning08:43
nikwenTo me it looks like different tests are run each time by Jenkins. So sometimes things fail and sometimes they don't.08:44
nikwenYou're welcome btw. And thanks for reviewing it that fast!08:44
popeynikwen: i have another easy terminal bug for you if you fancy it :)08:45
nikwenpopey: I already have another one assigned to me (LP: #1400285), but I'll take a look, of course. ;)08:47
ubot5Launchpad bug 1400285 in Ubuntu Terminal App "[Reboot] missing plain control & alt keys in overlay" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/140028508:47
popeynikwen: thanks08:51
nikwenpopey: I need the bug number though. ;)08:54
popeyI haven't filed it yet08:55
popeybasically I want us to swap the swipe gestures around08:55
nikwenWhat's the reason for that?08:55
popeyso one finger is left/right/up/down08:55
popeyand two fingers is scroll08:55
popeybecause it's inconsistent at the moment08:55
popeyleft right = one finger08:55
popeyup down = two fingers08:55
popeythat's wrong08:55
nikwenAh, ok.08:56
popeylemme file a bug now.08:56
nikwenAssign it to me. I'll get that fixed. :)08:57
nikwenHowever, I believe we should get LP:08:57
nikwenHowever, I believe we should get LP: #1464316 fixed before that.08:58
ubot5Launchpad bug 1464316 in Ubuntu UX "Tutorial explaining the two finger bash history scroll gesture" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146431608:58
nikwenModified for the new gestures, of course.08:58
popeynikwen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-terminal-app/+bug/146456608:58
ubot5Launchpad bug 1464566 in Ubuntu Terminal App "Swipe gestures inconsistent" [Undecided,New]08:58
popeynikwen: arguably they're duplicate bugs :)08:59
nikwenThe only issue I see with changing the gestures is that there would be inconsistencies with other apps on the platform as scrolling is done using one finger there...09:00
bzoltanDanChapman: works09:01
popeynikwen: not sure how else we can do this. two fingers for history is horrible to use09:01
popeynikwen: it is really hard to control the scroll finely like that09:01
bzoltanDanChapman:  is there a way to see my other IMAP folders too?09:01
popeynikwen: maybe the app needs an intro think like podbird has?09:01
nikwenpopey: Maybe we should simply make the history scroll gesture less responsive?09:02
popeywell, no. because it's also a problem inside apps in the terminal09:02
popeyleft/right uses one finger, up/down uses two, that's just not consistent09:03
nikwenOk, right.09:03
nikwenAgreed. :)09:03
popey:)09:03
popey\o/09:03
popeyI love it when a plan comes together09:03
nikwenI see the need for a tutorial as well but I'd rather use one like the messaging app on vivid. It's much shorter and less interrupting.09:03
nikwen:)09:04
popeynot seen that09:04
nikwen*on wily, of course.09:04
nikwenSorry.09:05
nikwenIt's just a short overlay describing the swipe left/right gestures on the list items.09:05
popeyoh, nice. I agree that would be nice. Maybe file a wishlist bug?09:05
nikwenAlready filed. :)09:05
DanChapmanbzoltan, in the accounts drawer (top left burger icon) select the account name under the "Accounts" divider. That should open the folder list09:06
popeyhaha09:06
nikwenLP: #146431609:06
ubot5Launchpad bug 1464316 in Ubuntu UX "Tutorial explaining the two finger bash history scroll gesture" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146431609:06
nikwenSome time ago when I was still doing Android development I saw a short notice in their design guidelines advising developers not to use long tutorials but to show small hints as these allow the user to get started more quickly.09:07
nikwenI find that very helpful advice.09:07
bzoltanDanChapman:  it shows all the folders under the IMAP server. Is there a way to show only those I have subscribed to?09:07
nikwenpopey: Regarding the tutorial/hint bug: would we need design input for that? Probably, right?09:08
popeynikwen: I'd prototype and show James Mulholland (when he's back from vacation), but I'm sure we can come up with something that's similar to the other apps so would be fine09:09
popeyI certainly wouldn't block on design for that09:09
nikwenpopey: Cool.09:09
DanChapmanbzoltan: not yet. But it's on the roadmap, the backend parts are there, just need UX input on how subscribing/unsubscribing will work09:10
DanChapmanbzoltan: it seems our custom styles of the Checkbox component is the issue with the wonky settings. They will most likely be missing in other places as well like multi-select in the message list09:13
bzoltanDanChapman: Okey, not a showstopper ...I could magine a favourite folders list10:01
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DanChapmanbzoltan: I like the idea, Saviq suggested similar in bug 1419350. I'll break it out into a seperate issue and get UX input on it when JMulholland gets back from his holiday10:14
ubot5bug 1419350 in Dekko "[beta] List of folders shouldn't be expanded" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141935010:14
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bzoltanDanChapman: Cool, thanks.10:27
bzoltanDanChapman: I captured this -> http://picpaste.com/bug-m0mpO70a.png11:10
DanChapmanbzoltan: i'm actually working on fixing that now. It comes from our request for the body part preview. The logic is slightly broken in how we look at the message parts for it. If it keeps appearing you can set preference.previewLines=0 in the conf file to disable the preview fetch.11:22
DanChapmanbzoltan: bug 1464630 if you have any suggestions :-)11:22
ubot5bug 1464630 in Dekko "Ability to mark favourite mailbox folders" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146463011:22
bzoltanDanChapman: thanks11:35
bzoltanDanChapman: sorry to bother you :) One thing came to my mind, might not be your area. But I would love (expect) if an email client would be integrated to the Contacts app. Like when I write a mail I would like to choose from the native contacts list and when i receive a mail i may want to add/merge the sender to my contatcs.11:54
mcphailbzoltan: join the club :)11:55
bzoltanmcphail: :) Just did :)11:58
ogra_and now send patches12:00
ogra_:P12:00
DanChapmanbzoltan: yeah that's been a rough area for a while. Due to the confinement we can only access native contacts through content-hub :-(. We have just landed support for a local in app address-book which you will be able to import from the contacts app as well as .abook (for mutt users out there) or a simple CSV file you usually get from webmail clients.12:05
DanChapmanAlso adding them back to the contacts app can be included but we have that nasty content-hub step in the middle  and keeping them in sync will always be a manual job12:05
DanChapmanWe have various bugs filed for better access to contacts but nothing has come of it yet12:06
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DanChapmanbzoltan: if you could help raise the heat on bug 1425949 that would be great. It's the most relevant one for accessing the local contacts. (but doesn't include adding new contacts)12:17
ubot5bug 1425949 in content-hub (Ubuntu) "Needs to support direct searching of contacts" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142594912:17
DanChapmanmcphail: ^^12:17
mcphailDanChapman: +1'd12:46
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dpmhi davidcalle, how are you doing with the QML/C++ tutorial text?13:56
davidcalledpm, hey, pretty good! I'll have something up for review in the evening14:00
dpmdavidcalle, great. Once you've got it, could you add the link to the Trello card?14:01
davidcalledpm, yes14:01
davidcalledpm, I'm wondering if we shouldn't have two sprints formats. A Three weeks (or two) one like now, and a one week, where we are all working on the same topic/goal14:04
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Z3Hi ! If I buy BQ Aquaris E5 Ubuntu edition, when "docking mode" or convergence is finished will be available too in this phone?20:06
nik90Z3: You just asked this question in #ubuntu-touch..what answer are you expecting20:07
Z3nik90 maybe another person has more information.20:07
nik90Z3: this channel is more targeted at app developers..your best hope for that question is #ubuntu-touch20:08
Z3nik90 ok, thank you20:08
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