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_MST3Ker_hello folks15:18
_MST3Ker_no one here?15:20
ZhyrI am.15:23
Zhyrbut I am on other networks at the moment.\15:23
_MST3Ker_ah cool15:27
_MST3Ker_thanks for the response Zhyr15:27
ZhyrNo worries.15:28
* Zhyr is also searching for a better computer to run Linux on15:28
_MST3Ker_kinda a newb at this , so just testing the waters15:28
azend|vpsI am15:28
azend|vps:)15:28
azend|vps_MST3Ker_:15:29
_MST3Ker_hey azend|vps15:29
_MST3Ker_:)15:29
_MST3Ker_good morning15:29
azend|vpsto you too15:29
_MST3Ker_thanks15:29
* genii makes more coffee and passes the mugs around15:29
azend|vpshi genii :)15:29
_MST3Ker_:) thanks genii15:29
_MST3Ker_and hi15:29
azend|vpshave you seen BobJonkman1 around?15:29
geniiHellos everyone :)15:29
geniiazend|vps: Not actively, just idling15:30
azend|vpssame here15:30
azend|vpsnot that I've been actively looking or anything15:30
azend|vpsIt's just nice seeing him around15:31
geniiazend|vps: I have seen aruna a few times alately15:31
_MST3Ker_so lots of regulars on this channel?15:31
azend|vpsa few15:31
azend|vpsbut this channel has been dead for a long time15:31
_MST3Ker_cool beans15:31
* Zhyr is also relatively new.15:31
_MST3Ker_oh ok15:31
* Zhyr is an IRC regular, though.15:31
azend|vpsyou've just brought it back to life :)15:31
geniiMostly people from Kitchener, and a couple from Toronto ( me included ) are the usual suspects15:32
_MST3Ker_oh boy, I feel special15:32
_MST3Ker_oh nice15:32
_MST3Ker_Kitchener... makes sense15:32
azend|vps_MST3Ker_: where are you from?15:32
_MST3Ker_Ex-RIMmers?15:32
azend|vpsow15:32
_MST3Ker_I'm from Tarana15:32
azend|vpswow15:32
azend|vpsI can't even read that with a straight face15:33
_MST3Ker_lol, read which?15:33
azend|vps[11:32:41] <_MST3Ker_> Ex-RIMmers?15:33
_MST3Ker_ha15:33
genii_MST3Ker_: Kwartzlab people mostly, not RIM15:33
_MST3Ker_ah, cool15:33
_MST3Ker_I'm an engineer but not in IT15:33
azend|vpsa civil engineer?15:34
_MST3Ker_yes15:34
azend|vpscool15:34
_MST3Ker_yeah, building stuff15:34
azend|vpsbuilding things which are guaranteed not to kill people just be difficult15:35
_MST3Ker_yeah azend|vps..... if not, I'll move to Mtl.15:36
azend|vps*must15:38
azend|vpsI'm in school for software engineering technology now15:38
azend|vpsexcept my school is a total cop out and likes to offer programs that sound like real positions without actually being accredited15:39
azend|vpsalthough my program is still pretty legit15:40
azend|vpsmost of my professors are alumni of UW for soft eng, math, or comp sci15:40
azend|vpsbut still no iron ring :/15:41
Zhyrazend|vps, which school do you go to?15:41
* bregma thinks the trappings of officialdom can be grossly overrated15:41
azend|vpsConestoga College in Kitchener15:42
azend|vpsI live in Guelph though15:42
ZhyrAh.15:42
* Zhyr is at Centennial for robotics engtech15:42
azend|vpsnice15:42
azend|vpshave you worked with ROS yet?15:43
ZhyrNot yet.15:43
ZhyrJust finished my first year.15:43
azend|vpsit's pretty fun15:43
azend|vpsZhyr: that's not an excuse :)15:43
ZhyrROS?15:44
_MST3Ker_oh nice ... I used to drive by Conestoga often15:44
* Zhyr may actually know, but may not know the acronym15:44
azend|vpsRobot Operating System15:45
azend|vpsStarted by Willow Garage15:45
azend|vpsnow maintained by Clearpath Robotics15:45
azend|vpswhich is also in KW by the way :)15:46
ZhyrHaven't touched that.15:46
* Zhyr will look into that once he gets his main laptop repaired15:46
azend|vpsit's an open source oslution for making different aspects of robots connect together15:46
geniiI'm imagining my Roomba snuggling with the fridge now15:47
_MST3Ker_they'd make awesome babies....15:48
bregmado you guys play with things like the Beaglebon Black, Raspberry Pi2, or Intel Edison?15:48
_MST3Ker_I'd keep my beers in it...15:48
* _MST3Ker_ only plays with powertools15:48
ZhyrI play with the Arduino, and am aiming to get a Pi for his birthday15:48
geniibregma: I have some MIPS dev boards right now, but nothing with ARM inside15:49
* Zhyr also idles in #raspbian and #arduino\15:49
azend|vpsbregma: yeah15:49
geniiSpecifically, these: http://www.elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI2015:49
azend|vpsthey're cool15:49
azend|vpsgenii: the roomba runs ROS actually :)15:49
geniiazend|vps: Cool :)15:50
* Zhyr will be doing the basics of PLC in September15:50
_MST3Ker_I thought the Roomba ran on smooth flooring only.... does it do carpets also?15:50
* Zhyr expects to blow up one or two PLCs before actually getting something to work15:50
bregmaI have Debian running on my Edisons and BBB but haven;t even had a chance to power up the raspi15:50
bregmagotta get Ubuntu on to them instead15:50
azend|vps_MST3Ker_: yeah15:50
azend|vps_MST3Ker_: just doesn't do stairs :P15:51
azend|vpsit'll do couches if you give it a lift15:51
_MST3Ker_that'll be the day15:51
_MST3Ker_c'mon fellow nerdies, make it happen!15:51
azend|vpsZhyr: I never really got PLCs15:51
_MST3Ker_I got potholes and bridges covered15:51
bregmaazend|vps, does it at least do stairs in the downward direction?15:52
azend|vpsthey're just expensive ruggedized microcontrollers with already attached relays and power transistors15:52
azend|vpsbregma: not if you want it to stay in one piece :)15:52
azend|vpsactually, they have little sensors in the bottom of them to tell if there is a drop off15:53
ZhyrFor my final year project, I have the option between a PLC and an Arduino for my controller for my project.15:53
azend|vps_MST3Ker_: make me a bridge between the floor and my couch :)15:53
_MST3Ker_well, sounds good15:54
_MST3Ker_I'll be needing a few thousand dollars and a few hundreds for overruns15:54
azend|vpsZhyr: are you more into the hardware portion or the software?15:54
ZhyrMore into hardware, but I still have some software knowledge.15:55
geniiWhat Roombas need is a stair attachment15:56
genii...and maybe drapes15:56
ZhyrI could never get a Roomba.15:57
_MST3Ker_no they don't genii.... they need googly eyes15:57
_MST3Ker_and fur15:57
ZhyrThe cat would sit on it and own it.15:57
_MST3Ker_so people buy more because they'd be totes adorable15:57
_MST3Ker_that's right... I said 'totes'15:57
geniiHm15:57
_MST3Ker_yeah15:58
* Zhyr is looking to getting a Lenovo X220T/X230T and putting 14.04 on it15:59
azend|vpsZhyr: do you watch the EEVBlog?15:59
Zhyrnegative - haven't been watching anything as of late.15:59
* Zhyr was busy designing chassis parts before his main computer's HDD headcrashed15:59
azend|vps_MST3Ker_: i think you may have just fouled your ring16:00
geniiZhyr: I was pretty impressed by that model, had to work on one recently16:00
_MST3Ker_why is that azend|vps16:00
_MST3Ker_because I don't speak code/hardware lingo?16:00
ZhyrI've run into the 220T models when I was a student at UOIT.16:01
azend|vps"[11:57:23] <_MST3Ker_> that's right... I said 'totes'"16:01
_MST3Ker_ha~!16:01
_MST3Ker_that's just my personality16:01
ZhyrAnd I've always wanted one since.16:01
_MST3Ker_you'll see more of that nonsense later on16:01
azend|vpsnot many civil engineers who joke :)16:01
_MST3Ker_yeah, more than Comp Sci.....16:02
_MST3Ker_all us Civs were the drunks rowdy ones16:02
_MST3Ker_we got kicked out of many organized activities for being idiots16:02
_MST3Ker_The Mechs were not drinkers....though they tried16:02
Zhyrah, the good old days watching engineering students outdrink other schols16:02
Zhyrschools*16:02
_MST3Ker_we did it with other faculties16:03
_MST3Ker_the Mechs had 3 ppl with alcohol poisonings in on of their smokers16:03
_MST3Ker_f'ing rookies16:03
ZhyrAt Centennial, it's always the engineers outdrinking the police students16:04
ZhyrIt's quite a sight.16:04
azend|vpsmy program has too much work to be able to leave the house :(16:04
_MST3Ker_c'mon azend|vps....16:04
_MST3Ker_you think I jerked it at my program?16:05
_MST3Ker_you just have to get it done16:05
azend|vpssocial, work, sleep. pick 116:05
_MST3Ker_and take some time to live16:05
ZhyrOne misplaced symbol can leave you staring at the screen for hours.16:05
* Zhyr knows16:05
_MST3Ker_true... I hated code16:05
azend|vpsZhyr: only first year :)16:05
_MST3Ker_god I hated that16:05
azend|vpsbut I'm in soft eng tech so you get over that quickly16:06
_MST3Ker_I was more into math and physics of it16:06
ZhyrI have machine shop in September.16:06
ZhyrI am friggin' stoked.16:06
azend|vpsnice16:06
_MST3Ker_nice Zhyr16:06
_MST3Ker_that sounds fun16:07
azend|vpsI have access to a nice bridgeport and lathe but I have no idea how to use them16:07
azend|vpsI can do CNC though16:07
ZhyrFor my 2016 birthday, I may ask for a mill.16:07
azend|vps:P16:08
ZhyrMachine shopfor me will be manual, though the school also provides CNC classes that are available during the summer.16:08
azend|vpsgood luck moving it without a forklift16:08
* Zhyr is totally up for CNC16:08
Zhyrazend|vps, a tabletop mill.16:08
ZhyrNot a full-scale one.16:08
azend|vpsah16:08
* Zhyr is designing small robots up to the size of a basket, not xboxhueg bots16:08
azend|vpsI use one like this http://www.diyode.com/t/toolPics/tool_59_Orig.jpg16:09
azend|vpswell attempt anyway16:09
azend|vpsyour standard el'giganto mill16:10
_MST3Ker_I saw this guy machining a block of aluminum to make a cube inside a cube inside a cube16:14
_MST3Ker_it was mesmerizing16:14
ZhyrI've seen the instructions on how to do that.16:15
ZhyrI forgot to save them, though.16:15
* Zhyr derp16:15
Zhyrazend|vps, http://www.sherline.com/mills.htm16:16
azend|vpsah nice16:16
azend|vpssort of like our CNC TAIG16:17
azend|vpshttps://www.google.ca/search?q=taig+mill&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIw6y9hMeKxgIVDwySCh3A8AAb&biw=1280&bih=699#imgrc=iw131YiLmKHt8M%253A%3BKxaRRgvcCaG5LM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.taigtools.com%252FImages%252Fcrmill1.JPG%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.taigtools.com%252Fmmill.html%3B300%3B37716:17
azend|vpserr16:17
azend|vpshttp://www.taigtools.com/Images/crmill1.JPG16:17
ZhyrMhm.16:24
ZhyrI can get the mill and a kit for around 1.3-1.5 grand from Robotshop or Atlas Tool.16:25
azend|vpseww robotshop16:26
azend|vpsthey just buy cheap chinese crap like everyone else and then mark it up 10x16:27
ZhyrI get whatever I need from creatron or sayal directly (walk-in).16:30
ZhyrTools, I usually get from Princess Auto.16:30
ZhyrAnything truly specialized, I usually talk to one of my profs or my program head - he knows where to get good stuff.16:31
geniiAtlas Tool has almost everything16:36
_MST3Ker_Hey now! no buzz marketing lol16:37
geniiI got a decent metal break from there last time16:38
_MST3Ker_princess auto is great... lots of little knick knacks16:38
_MST3Ker_valves/ hose/equ.16:38
_MST3Ker_its' quite good16:38
geniiCool16:39
ZhyrIf I need raw material, I just drop by Home Depot.16:39
* Zhyr can do some woodwork and can weld16:40
geniiHeh, yeah, I have a Crappy Tire welding machine16:41
genii( mostly for fixing the fire escape at work)16:41
ZhyrI just need a extendable torch, and more fusion rods.16:41
* Zhyr does not like electrode welding, fuckin' terrifying16:42
geniiWith an instant-on helmet it's not so bad16:42
ZhyrNot even that.16:49
Zhyrjust the fact thatI am working with a lot of voltage at once terrifies me.16:50
ZhyrAlso, sparks jumping down your shirt.16:50
* Zhyr knows the dance16:50
geniiI have a pretty good set of coveralls and a bib to prevent that :) But yeah hot slag really really really hurts16:51
ZhyrI usually have a cloth around my neck and a good jacket, since I am usually not doing protracted welds.16:52
geniiYeah, mostly I'm welding once a year for week or two here... fire escape repairs, making steel shelving, fixing busted shovels, things like that mostly. Maybe I should try to do something recreational16:55
geniiLike a recumbent or such16:55

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