=== jlamothe is now known as Guest47162 === Sax is now known as Zhyr [15:18] <_MST3Ker_> hello folks [15:20] <_MST3Ker_> no one here? [15:23] I am. [15:23] but I am on other networks at the moment.\ [15:27] <_MST3Ker_> ah cool [15:27] <_MST3Ker_> thanks for the response Zhyr [15:28] No worries. [15:28] * Zhyr is also searching for a better computer to run Linux on [15:28] <_MST3Ker_> kinda a newb at this , so just testing the waters [15:28] I am [15:28] :) [15:29] _MST3Ker_: [15:29] <_MST3Ker_> hey azend|vps [15:29] <_MST3Ker_> :) [15:29] <_MST3Ker_> good morning [15:29] to you too [15:29] <_MST3Ker_> thanks [15:29] * genii makes more coffee and passes the mugs around [15:29] hi genii :) [15:29] <_MST3Ker_> :) thanks genii [15:29] <_MST3Ker_> and hi [15:29] have you seen BobJonkman1 around? [15:29] Hellos everyone :) [15:30] azend|vps: Not actively, just idling [15:30] same here [15:30] not that I've been actively looking or anything [15:31] It's just nice seeing him around [15:31] azend|vps: I have seen aruna a few times alately [15:31] <_MST3Ker_> so lots of regulars on this channel? [15:31] a few [15:31] but this channel has been dead for a long time [15:31] <_MST3Ker_> cool beans [15:31] * Zhyr is also relatively new. [15:31] <_MST3Ker_> oh ok [15:31] * Zhyr is an IRC regular, though. [15:31] you've just brought it back to life :) [15:32] Mostly people from Kitchener, and a couple from Toronto ( me included ) are the usual suspects [15:32] <_MST3Ker_> oh boy, I feel special [15:32] <_MST3Ker_> oh nice [15:32] <_MST3Ker_> Kitchener... makes sense [15:32] _MST3Ker_: where are you from? [15:32] <_MST3Ker_> Ex-RIMmers? [15:32] ow [15:32] <_MST3Ker_> I'm from Tarana [15:32] wow [15:33] I can't even read that with a straight face [15:33] <_MST3Ker_> lol, read which? [15:33] [11:32:41] <_MST3Ker_> Ex-RIMmers? [15:33] <_MST3Ker_> ha [15:33] _MST3Ker_: Kwartzlab people mostly, not RIM [15:33] <_MST3Ker_> ah, cool [15:33] <_MST3Ker_> I'm an engineer but not in IT [15:34] a civil engineer? [15:34] <_MST3Ker_> yes [15:34] cool [15:34] <_MST3Ker_> yeah, building stuff [15:35] building things which are guaranteed not to kill people just be difficult [15:36] <_MST3Ker_> yeah azend|vps..... if not, I'll move to Mtl. [15:38] *must [15:38] I'm in school for software engineering technology now [15:39] except my school is a total cop out and likes to offer programs that sound like real positions without actually being accredited [15:40] although my program is still pretty legit [15:40] most of my professors are alumni of UW for soft eng, math, or comp sci [15:41] but still no iron ring :/ [15:41] azend|vps, which school do you go to? [15:41] * bregma thinks the trappings of officialdom can be grossly overrated [15:42] Conestoga College in Kitchener [15:42] I live in Guelph though [15:42] Ah. [15:42] * Zhyr is at Centennial for robotics engtech [15:42] nice [15:43] have you worked with ROS yet? [15:43] Not yet. [15:43] Just finished my first year. [15:43] it's pretty fun [15:43] Zhyr: that's not an excuse :) [15:44] ROS? [15:44] <_MST3Ker_> oh nice ... I used to drive by Conestoga often [15:44] * Zhyr may actually know, but may not know the acronym [15:45] Robot Operating System [15:45] Started by Willow Garage [15:45] now maintained by Clearpath Robotics [15:46] which is also in KW by the way :) [15:46] Haven't touched that. [15:46] * Zhyr will look into that once he gets his main laptop repaired [15:46] it's an open source oslution for making different aspects of robots connect together [15:47] I'm imagining my Roomba snuggling with the fridge now [15:48] <_MST3Ker_> they'd make awesome babies.... [15:48] do you guys play with things like the Beaglebon Black, Raspberry Pi2, or Intel Edison? [15:48] <_MST3Ker_> I'd keep my beers in it... [15:48] * _MST3Ker_ only plays with powertools [15:48] I play with the Arduino, and am aiming to get a Pi for his birthday [15:49] bregma: I have some MIPS dev boards right now, but nothing with ARM inside [15:49] * Zhyr also idles in #raspbian and #arduino\ [15:49] bregma: yeah [15:49] Specifically, these: http://www.elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20 [15:49] they're cool [15:49] genii: the roomba runs ROS actually :) [15:50] azend|vps: Cool :) [15:50] * Zhyr will be doing the basics of PLC in September [15:50] <_MST3Ker_> I thought the Roomba ran on smooth flooring only.... does it do carpets also? [15:50] * Zhyr expects to blow up one or two PLCs before actually getting something to work [15:50] I have Debian running on my Edisons and BBB but haven;t even had a chance to power up the raspi [15:50] gotta get Ubuntu on to them instead [15:50] _MST3Ker_: yeah [15:51] _MST3Ker_: just doesn't do stairs :P [15:51] it'll do couches if you give it a lift [15:51] <_MST3Ker_> that'll be the day [15:51] <_MST3Ker_> c'mon fellow nerdies, make it happen! [15:51] Zhyr: I never really got PLCs [15:51] <_MST3Ker_> I got potholes and bridges covered [15:52] azend|vps, does it at least do stairs in the downward direction? [15:52] they're just expensive ruggedized microcontrollers with already attached relays and power transistors [15:52] bregma: not if you want it to stay in one piece :) [15:53] actually, they have little sensors in the bottom of them to tell if there is a drop off [15:53] For my final year project, I have the option between a PLC and an Arduino for my controller for my project. [15:53] _MST3Ker_: make me a bridge between the floor and my couch :) [15:54] <_MST3Ker_> well, sounds good [15:54] <_MST3Ker_> I'll be needing a few thousand dollars and a few hundreds for overruns [15:54] Zhyr: are you more into the hardware portion or the software? [15:55] More into hardware, but I still have some software knowledge. [15:56] What Roombas need is a stair attachment [15:56] ...and maybe drapes [15:57] I could never get a Roomba. [15:57] <_MST3Ker_> no they don't genii.... they need googly eyes [15:57] <_MST3Ker_> and fur [15:57] The cat would sit on it and own it. [15:57] <_MST3Ker_> so people buy more because they'd be totes adorable [15:57] <_MST3Ker_> that's right... I said 'totes' [15:57] Hm [15:58] <_MST3Ker_> yeah [15:59] * Zhyr is looking to getting a Lenovo X220T/X230T and putting 14.04 on it [15:59] Zhyr: do you watch the EEVBlog? [15:59] negative - haven't been watching anything as of late. [15:59] * Zhyr was busy designing chassis parts before his main computer's HDD headcrashed [16:00] _MST3Ker_: i think you may have just fouled your ring [16:00] Zhyr: I was pretty impressed by that model, had to work on one recently [16:00] <_MST3Ker_> why is that azend|vps [16:00] <_MST3Ker_> because I don't speak code/hardware lingo? [16:01] I've run into the 220T models when I was a student at UOIT. [16:01] "[11:57:23] <_MST3Ker_> that's right... I said 'totes'" [16:01] <_MST3Ker_> ha~! [16:01] <_MST3Ker_> that's just my personality [16:01] And I've always wanted one since. [16:01] <_MST3Ker_> you'll see more of that nonsense later on [16:01] not many civil engineers who joke :) [16:02] <_MST3Ker_> yeah, more than Comp Sci..... [16:02] <_MST3Ker_> all us Civs were the drunks rowdy ones [16:02] <_MST3Ker_> we got kicked out of many organized activities for being idiots [16:02] <_MST3Ker_> The Mechs were not drinkers....though they tried [16:02] ah, the good old days watching engineering students outdrink other schols [16:02] schools* [16:03] <_MST3Ker_> we did it with other faculties [16:03] <_MST3Ker_> the Mechs had 3 ppl with alcohol poisonings in on of their smokers [16:03] <_MST3Ker_> f'ing rookies [16:04] At Centennial, it's always the engineers outdrinking the police students [16:04] It's quite a sight. [16:04] my program has too much work to be able to leave the house :( [16:04] <_MST3Ker_> c'mon azend|vps.... [16:05] <_MST3Ker_> you think I jerked it at my program? [16:05] <_MST3Ker_> you just have to get it done [16:05] social, work, sleep. pick 1 [16:05] <_MST3Ker_> and take some time to live [16:05] One misplaced symbol can leave you staring at the screen for hours. [16:05] * Zhyr knows [16:05] <_MST3Ker_> true... I hated code [16:05] Zhyr: only first year :) [16:05] <_MST3Ker_> god I hated that [16:06] but I'm in soft eng tech so you get over that quickly [16:06] <_MST3Ker_> I was more into math and physics of it [16:06] I have machine shop in September. [16:06] I am friggin' stoked. [16:06] nice [16:06] <_MST3Ker_> nice Zhyr [16:07] <_MST3Ker_> that sounds fun [16:07] I have access to a nice bridgeport and lathe but I have no idea how to use them [16:07] I can do CNC though [16:07] For my 2016 birthday, I may ask for a mill. [16:08] :P [16:08] Machine shopfor me will be manual, though the school also provides CNC classes that are available during the summer. [16:08] good luck moving it without a forklift [16:08] * Zhyr is totally up for CNC [16:08] azend|vps, a tabletop mill. [16:08] Not a full-scale one. [16:08] ah [16:08] * Zhyr is designing small robots up to the size of a basket, not xboxhueg bots [16:09] I use one like this http://www.diyode.com/t/toolPics/tool_59_Orig.jpg [16:09] well attempt anyway [16:10] your standard el'giganto mill [16:14] <_MST3Ker_> I saw this guy machining a block of aluminum to make a cube inside a cube inside a cube [16:14] <_MST3Ker_> it was mesmerizing [16:15] I've seen the instructions on how to do that. [16:15] I forgot to save them, though. [16:15] * Zhyr derp [16:16] azend|vps, http://www.sherline.com/mills.htm [16:16] ah nice [16:17] sort of like our CNC TAIG [16:17] https://www.google.ca/search?q=taig+mill&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIw6y9hMeKxgIVDwySCh3A8AAb&biw=1280&bih=699#imgrc=iw131YiLmKHt8M%253A%3BKxaRRgvcCaG5LM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.taigtools.com%252FImages%252Fcrmill1.JPG%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.taigtools.com%252Fmmill.html%3B300%3B377 [16:17] err [16:17] http://www.taigtools.com/Images/crmill1.JPG [16:24] Mhm. [16:25] I can get the mill and a kit for around 1.3-1.5 grand from Robotshop or Atlas Tool. [16:26] eww robotshop [16:27] they just buy cheap chinese crap like everyone else and then mark it up 10x [16:30] I get whatever I need from creatron or sayal directly (walk-in). [16:30] Tools, I usually get from Princess Auto. [16:31] Anything truly specialized, I usually talk to one of my profs or my program head - he knows where to get good stuff. [16:36] Atlas Tool has almost everything [16:37] <_MST3Ker_> Hey now! no buzz marketing lol [16:38] I got a decent metal break from there last time [16:38] <_MST3Ker_> princess auto is great... lots of little knick knacks [16:38] <_MST3Ker_> valves/ hose/equ. [16:38] <_MST3Ker_> its' quite good [16:39] Cool [16:39] If I need raw material, I just drop by Home Depot. [16:40] * Zhyr can do some woodwork and can weld [16:41] Heh, yeah, I have a Crappy Tire welding machine [16:41] ( mostly for fixing the fire escape at work) [16:41] I just need a extendable torch, and more fusion rods. [16:42] * Zhyr does not like electrode welding, fuckin' terrifying [16:42] With an instant-on helmet it's not so bad [16:49] Not even that. [16:50] just the fact thatI am working with a lot of voltage at once terrifies me. [16:50] Also, sparks jumping down your shirt. [16:50] * Zhyr knows the dance [16:51] I have a pretty good set of coveralls and a bib to prevent that :) But yeah hot slag really really really hurts [16:52] I usually have a cloth around my neck and a good jacket, since I am usually not doing protracted welds. [16:55] Yeah, mostly I'm welding once a year for week or two here... fire escape repairs, making steel shelving, fixing busted shovels, things like that mostly. Maybe I should try to do something recreational [16:55] Like a recumbent or such