[15:18] <_MST3Ker_> hello folks
[15:20] <_MST3Ker_> no one here?
[15:23] <Zhyr> I am.
[15:23] <Zhyr> but I am on other networks at the moment.\
[15:27] <_MST3Ker_> ah cool
[15:27] <_MST3Ker_> thanks for the response Zhyr
[15:28] <Zhyr> No worries.
[15:28]  * Zhyr is also searching for a better computer to run Linux on
[15:28] <_MST3Ker_> kinda a newb at this , so just testing the waters
[15:28] <azend|vps> I am
[15:28] <azend|vps> :)
[15:29] <azend|vps> _MST3Ker_:
[15:29] <_MST3Ker_> hey azend|vps
[15:29] <_MST3Ker_> :)
[15:29] <_MST3Ker_> good morning
[15:29] <azend|vps> to you too
[15:29] <_MST3Ker_> thanks
[15:29]  * genii makes more coffee and passes the mugs around
[15:29] <azend|vps> hi genii :)
[15:29] <_MST3Ker_> :) thanks genii
[15:29] <_MST3Ker_> and hi
[15:29] <azend|vps> have you seen BobJonkman1 around?
[15:29] <genii> Hellos everyone :)
[15:30] <genii> azend|vps: Not actively, just idling
[15:30] <azend|vps> same here
[15:30] <azend|vps> not that I've been actively looking or anything
[15:31] <azend|vps> It's just nice seeing him around
[15:31] <genii> azend|vps: I have seen aruna a few times alately
[15:31] <_MST3Ker_> so lots of regulars on this channel?
[15:31] <azend|vps> a few
[15:31] <azend|vps> but this channel has been dead for a long time
[15:31] <_MST3Ker_> cool beans
[15:31]  * Zhyr is also relatively new.
[15:31] <_MST3Ker_> oh ok
[15:31]  * Zhyr is an IRC regular, though.
[15:31] <azend|vps> you've just brought it back to life :)
[15:32] <genii> Mostly people from Kitchener, and a couple from Toronto ( me included ) are the usual suspects
[15:32] <_MST3Ker_> oh boy, I feel special
[15:32] <_MST3Ker_> oh nice
[15:32] <_MST3Ker_> Kitchener... makes sense
[15:32] <azend|vps> _MST3Ker_: where are you from?
[15:32] <_MST3Ker_> Ex-RIMmers?
[15:32] <azend|vps> ow
[15:32] <_MST3Ker_> I'm from Tarana
[15:32] <azend|vps> wow
[15:33] <azend|vps> I can't even read that with a straight face
[15:33] <_MST3Ker_> lol, read which?
[15:33] <azend|vps> [11:32:41] <_MST3Ker_> Ex-RIMmers?
[15:33] <_MST3Ker_> ha
[15:33] <genii> _MST3Ker_: Kwartzlab people mostly, not RIM
[15:33] <_MST3Ker_> ah, cool
[15:33] <_MST3Ker_> I'm an engineer but not in IT
[15:34] <azend|vps> a civil engineer?
[15:34] <_MST3Ker_> yes
[15:34] <azend|vps> cool
[15:34] <_MST3Ker_> yeah, building stuff
[15:35] <azend|vps> building things which are guaranteed not to kill people just be difficult
[15:36] <_MST3Ker_> yeah azend|vps..... if not, I'll move to Mtl.
[15:38] <azend|vps> *must
[15:38] <azend|vps> I'm in school for software engineering technology now
[15:39] <azend|vps> except my school is a total cop out and likes to offer programs that sound like real positions without actually being accredited
[15:40] <azend|vps> although my program is still pretty legit
[15:40] <azend|vps> most of my professors are alumni of UW for soft eng, math, or comp sci
[15:41] <azend|vps> but still no iron ring :/
[15:41] <Zhyr> azend|vps, which school do you go to?
[15:41]  * bregma thinks the trappings of officialdom can be grossly overrated
[15:42] <azend|vps> Conestoga College in Kitchener
[15:42] <azend|vps> I live in Guelph though
[15:42] <Zhyr> Ah.
[15:42]  * Zhyr is at Centennial for robotics engtech
[15:42] <azend|vps> nice
[15:43] <azend|vps> have you worked with ROS yet?
[15:43] <Zhyr> Not yet.
[15:43] <Zhyr> Just finished my first year.
[15:43] <azend|vps> it's pretty fun
[15:43] <azend|vps> Zhyr: that's not an excuse :)
[15:44] <Zhyr> ROS?
[15:44] <_MST3Ker_> oh nice ... I used to drive by Conestoga often
[15:44]  * Zhyr may actually know, but may not know the acronym
[15:45] <azend|vps> Robot Operating System
[15:45] <azend|vps> Started by Willow Garage
[15:45] <azend|vps> now maintained by Clearpath Robotics
[15:46] <azend|vps> which is also in KW by the way :)
[15:46] <Zhyr> Haven't touched that.
[15:46]  * Zhyr will look into that once he gets his main laptop repaired
[15:46] <azend|vps> it's an open source oslution for making different aspects of robots connect together
[15:47] <genii> I'm imagining my Roomba snuggling with the fridge now
[15:48] <_MST3Ker_> they'd make awesome babies....
[15:48] <bregma> do you guys play with things like the Beaglebon Black, Raspberry Pi2, or Intel Edison?
[15:48] <_MST3Ker_> I'd keep my beers in it...
[15:48]  * _MST3Ker_ only plays with powertools
[15:48] <Zhyr> I play with the Arduino, and am aiming to get a Pi for his birthday
[15:49] <genii> bregma: I have some MIPS dev boards right now, but nothing with ARM inside
[15:49]  * Zhyr also idles in #raspbian and #arduino\
[15:49] <azend|vps> bregma: yeah
[15:49] <genii> Specifically, these: http://www.elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20
[15:49] <azend|vps> they're cool
[15:49] <azend|vps> genii: the roomba runs ROS actually :)
[15:50] <genii> azend|vps: Cool :)
[15:50]  * Zhyr will be doing the basics of PLC in September
[15:50] <_MST3Ker_> I thought the Roomba ran on smooth flooring only.... does it do carpets also?
[15:50]  * Zhyr expects to blow up one or two PLCs before actually getting something to work
[15:50] <bregma> I have Debian running on my Edisons and BBB but haven;t even had a chance to power up the raspi
[15:50] <bregma> gotta get Ubuntu on to them instead
[15:50] <azend|vps> _MST3Ker_: yeah
[15:51] <azend|vps> _MST3Ker_: just doesn't do stairs :P
[15:51] <azend|vps> it'll do couches if you give it a lift
[15:51] <_MST3Ker_> that'll be the day
[15:51] <_MST3Ker_> c'mon fellow nerdies, make it happen!
[15:51] <azend|vps> Zhyr: I never really got PLCs
[15:51] <_MST3Ker_> I got potholes and bridges covered
[15:52] <bregma> azend|vps, does it at least do stairs in the downward direction?
[15:52] <azend|vps> they're just expensive ruggedized microcontrollers with already attached relays and power transistors
[15:52] <azend|vps> bregma: not if you want it to stay in one piece :)
[15:53] <azend|vps> actually, they have little sensors in the bottom of them to tell if there is a drop off
[15:53] <Zhyr> For my final year project, I have the option between a PLC and an Arduino for my controller for my project.
[15:53] <azend|vps> _MST3Ker_: make me a bridge between the floor and my couch :)
[15:54] <_MST3Ker_> well, sounds good
[15:54] <_MST3Ker_> I'll be needing a few thousand dollars and a few hundreds for overruns
[15:54] <azend|vps> Zhyr: are you more into the hardware portion or the software?
[15:55] <Zhyr> More into hardware, but I still have some software knowledge.
[15:56] <genii> What Roombas need is a stair attachment
[15:56] <genii> ...and maybe drapes
[15:57] <Zhyr> I could never get a Roomba.
[15:57] <_MST3Ker_> no they don't genii.... they need googly eyes
[15:57] <_MST3Ker_> and fur
[15:57] <Zhyr> The cat would sit on it and own it.
[15:57] <_MST3Ker_> so people buy more because they'd be totes adorable
[15:57] <_MST3Ker_> that's right... I said 'totes'
[15:57] <genii> Hm
[15:58] <_MST3Ker_> yeah
[15:59]  * Zhyr is looking to getting a Lenovo X220T/X230T and putting 14.04 on it
[15:59] <azend|vps> Zhyr: do you watch the EEVBlog?
[15:59] <Zhyr> negative - haven't been watching anything as of late.
[15:59]  * Zhyr was busy designing chassis parts before his main computer's HDD headcrashed
[16:00] <azend|vps> _MST3Ker_: i think you may have just fouled your ring
[16:00] <genii> Zhyr: I was pretty impressed by that model, had to work on one recently
[16:00] <_MST3Ker_> why is that azend|vps
[16:00] <_MST3Ker_> because I don't speak code/hardware lingo?
[16:01] <Zhyr> I've run into the 220T models when I was a student at UOIT.
[16:01] <azend|vps> "[11:57:23] <_MST3Ker_> that's right... I said 'totes'"
[16:01] <_MST3Ker_> ha~!
[16:01] <_MST3Ker_> that's just my personality
[16:01] <Zhyr> And I've always wanted one since.
[16:01] <_MST3Ker_> you'll see more of that nonsense later on
[16:01] <azend|vps> not many civil engineers who joke :)
[16:02] <_MST3Ker_> yeah, more than Comp Sci.....
[16:02] <_MST3Ker_> all us Civs were the drunks rowdy ones
[16:02] <_MST3Ker_> we got kicked out of many organized activities for being idiots
[16:02] <_MST3Ker_> The Mechs were not drinkers....though they tried
[16:02] <Zhyr> ah, the good old days watching engineering students outdrink other schols
[16:02] <Zhyr> schools*
[16:03] <_MST3Ker_> we did it with other faculties
[16:03] <_MST3Ker_> the Mechs had 3 ppl with alcohol poisonings in on of their smokers
[16:03] <_MST3Ker_> f'ing rookies
[16:04] <Zhyr> At Centennial, it's always the engineers outdrinking the police students
[16:04] <Zhyr> It's quite a sight.
[16:04] <azend|vps> my program has too much work to be able to leave the house :(
[16:04] <_MST3Ker_> c'mon azend|vps....
[16:05] <_MST3Ker_> you think I jerked it at my program?
[16:05] <_MST3Ker_> you just have to get it done
[16:05] <azend|vps> social, work, sleep. pick 1
[16:05] <_MST3Ker_> and take some time to live
[16:05] <Zhyr> One misplaced symbol can leave you staring at the screen for hours.
[16:05]  * Zhyr knows
[16:05] <_MST3Ker_> true... I hated code
[16:05] <azend|vps> Zhyr: only first year :)
[16:05] <_MST3Ker_> god I hated that
[16:06] <azend|vps> but I'm in soft eng tech so you get over that quickly
[16:06] <_MST3Ker_> I was more into math and physics of it
[16:06] <Zhyr> I have machine shop in September.
[16:06] <Zhyr> I am friggin' stoked.
[16:06] <azend|vps> nice
[16:06] <_MST3Ker_> nice Zhyr
[16:07] <_MST3Ker_> that sounds fun
[16:07] <azend|vps> I have access to a nice bridgeport and lathe but I have no idea how to use them
[16:07] <azend|vps> I can do CNC though
[16:07] <Zhyr> For my 2016 birthday, I may ask for a mill.
[16:08] <azend|vps> :P
[16:08] <Zhyr> Machine shopfor me will be manual, though the school also provides CNC classes that are available during the summer.
[16:08] <azend|vps> good luck moving it without a forklift
[16:08]  * Zhyr is totally up for CNC
[16:08] <Zhyr> azend|vps, a tabletop mill.
[16:08] <Zhyr> Not a full-scale one.
[16:08] <azend|vps> ah
[16:08]  * Zhyr is designing small robots up to the size of a basket, not xboxhueg bots
[16:09] <azend|vps> I use one like this http://www.diyode.com/t/toolPics/tool_59_Orig.jpg
[16:09] <azend|vps> well attempt anyway
[16:10] <azend|vps> your standard el'giganto mill
[16:14] <_MST3Ker_> I saw this guy machining a block of aluminum to make a cube inside a cube inside a cube
[16:14] <_MST3Ker_> it was mesmerizing
[16:15] <Zhyr> I've seen the instructions on how to do that.
[16:15] <Zhyr> I forgot to save them, though.
[16:15]  * Zhyr derp
[16:16] <Zhyr> azend|vps, http://www.sherline.com/mills.htm
[16:16] <azend|vps> ah nice
[16:17] <azend|vps> sort of like our CNC TAIG
[16:17] <azend|vps> https://www.google.ca/search?q=taig+mill&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIw6y9hMeKxgIVDwySCh3A8AAb&biw=1280&bih=699#imgrc=iw131YiLmKHt8M%253A%3BKxaRRgvcCaG5LM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.taigtools.com%252FImages%252Fcrmill1.JPG%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.taigtools.com%252Fmmill.html%3B300%3B377
[16:17] <azend|vps> err
[16:17] <azend|vps> http://www.taigtools.com/Images/crmill1.JPG
[16:24] <Zhyr> Mhm.
[16:25] <Zhyr> I can get the mill and a kit for around 1.3-1.5 grand from Robotshop or Atlas Tool.
[16:26] <azend|vps> eww robotshop
[16:27] <azend|vps> they just buy cheap chinese crap like everyone else and then mark it up 10x
[16:30] <Zhyr> I get whatever I need from creatron or sayal directly (walk-in).
[16:30] <Zhyr> Tools, I usually get from Princess Auto.
[16:31] <Zhyr> Anything truly specialized, I usually talk to one of my profs or my program head - he knows where to get good stuff.
[16:36] <genii> Atlas Tool has almost everything
[16:37] <_MST3Ker_> Hey now! no buzz marketing lol
[16:38] <genii> I got a decent metal break from there last time
[16:38] <_MST3Ker_> princess auto is great... lots of little knick knacks
[16:38] <_MST3Ker_> valves/ hose/equ.
[16:38] <_MST3Ker_> its' quite good
[16:39] <genii> Cool
[16:39] <Zhyr> If I need raw material, I just drop by Home Depot.
[16:40]  * Zhyr can do some woodwork and can weld
[16:41] <genii> Heh, yeah, I have a Crappy Tire welding machine
[16:41] <genii> ( mostly for fixing the fire escape at work)
[16:41] <Zhyr> I just need a extendable torch, and more fusion rods.
[16:42]  * Zhyr does not like electrode welding, fuckin' terrifying
[16:42] <genii> With an instant-on helmet it's not so bad
[16:49] <Zhyr> Not even that.
[16:50] <Zhyr> just the fact thatI am working with a lot of voltage at once terrifies me.
[16:50] <Zhyr> Also, sparks jumping down your shirt.
[16:50]  * Zhyr knows the dance
[16:51] <genii> I have a pretty good set of coveralls and a bib to prevent that :) But yeah hot slag really really really hurts
[16:52] <Zhyr> I usually have a cloth around my neck and a good jacket, since I am usually not doing protracted welds.
[16:55] <genii> Yeah, mostly I'm welding once a year for week or two here... fire escape repairs, making steel shelving, fixing busted shovels, things like that mostly. Maybe I should try to do something recreational
[16:55] <genii> Like a recumbent or such