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| didrocks | good morning | 05:20 |
|---|---|---|
| pitti | Good morning | 06:15 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 06:20 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, wie gehts? | 06:20 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! gut, danke! | 06:20 |
| pitti | c'est un beau matin, avec beaucoup du soleil ! | 06:20 |
| seb128 | ici aussi ! | 06:20 |
| pitti | seb128: do you know what happened in http://paste.ubuntu.com/11697411/ ? | 06:21 |
| pitti | seb128: did they use a broken intltool or something to wrap the tarball? | 06:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, I don't really | 06:22 |
| seb128 | the issue is due to https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~intltool/intltool/trunk/revision/742 | 06:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, I copied what Laney did in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/202626076/gnome-bluetooth_3.8.2.1-0ubuntu11_3.8.2.1-0ubuntu12.diff.gz | 06:23 |
| seb128 | but using intltoolize on the source should probably work as well | 06:23 |
| seb128 | they probably rolled the tarball with intltool 0.50 which still had that definition | 06:23 |
| didrocks | good morning pitti | 06:24 |
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| pitti | seb128: ah, so you already committed the fix now | 06:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes, figured out my commit issue | 06:26 |
| pitti | seb128: what's the effect if you don't apply this patch? 3.16.0-1 builds just fine | 06:28 |
| seb128 | pitti, if you build -1 with current intltool the translations are installed in a directory /usr/@DATADIRNAME@/locale | 06:29 |
| seb128 | current ubuntu package has that | 06:29 |
| pitti | ./usr/share/locale/ast/LC_MESSAGES/gnome-tetravex.mo | 06:29 |
| seb128 | dpkg -l | grep intltool ? | 06:29 |
| pitti | seb128: 0.50.2 in sid | 06:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, that's the old version | 06:29 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, so this only applies to the experimental version? | 06:30 |
| seb128 | Ubuntu has 0.51 | 06:30 |
| seb128 | yes | 06:30 |
| seb128 | the commit I pointed before is only in the newest version | 06:30 |
| pitti | seb128: i. e. do you want/need that uploaded to sid? (trying to add a justification for the half-NMU) | 06:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's in pkg-gnome, I though you were in that? | 06:31 |
| seb128 | no, don't bother | 06:31 |
| pitti | I am | 06:31 |
| seb128 | I just wanted to keep the package in sync | 06:31 |
| pitti | just not in Uploaders:, but I guess I don't have to be | 06:31 |
| seb128 | yeah, you don't, that's autogenerated from the previous uploaders in pkg-gnome | 06:32 |
| pitti | seb128: so if that were me, I'd do a -1svn1 upload to ubuntu now | 06:32 |
| pitti | keeps it autosyncable, and avoids an unnecessary sid upload | 06:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, k, let me do that then, thanks ;-) | 06:33 |
| willcooke | o/ | 06:40 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 06:42 |
| willcooke | good morning :) | 06:42 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 06:43 |
| seb128 | willcooke, you are european tz today? ;-) | 06:44 |
| willcooke | The boy thought he should come and poke me in the face at 6am | 06:45 |
| willcooke | and then climbed in my bed and went back to sleep | 06:45 |
| willcooke | I was checking email on my phone anyway, figured I might as well get up | 06:45 |
| didrocks | I guess it was his way to tell "dad, brings some money home" | 06:51 |
| willcooke | hehe | 06:51 |
| seb128 | lol | 06:53 |
| larsu | morning! | 07:29 |
| didrocks | re larsu! | 07:29 |
| willcooke | hey larsu | 07:29 |
| larsu | hi guys :) | 07:29 |
| larsu | how's things? | 07:29 |
| willcooke | good! How did you get on yesterday? | 07:30 |
| willcooke | I thought it was today for some reason | 07:30 |
| seb128 | hey larsu | 07:31 |
| larsu | willcooke: it was, but they changed it for $MANAGER_REASONS | 07:31 |
| larsu | hi seb128 | 07:31 |
| willcooke | larsu, ohhh. Was it fun? | 07:31 |
| larsu | willcooke: was good. A bit dull, but they were very interested and asked tons of questions | 07:31 |
| willcooke | great! | 07:31 |
| willcooke | Well, thank you *very* much for doing it | 07:31 |
| larsu | definitely fun to see that world | 07:31 |
| larsu | not sure if I would do it again :) | 07:31 |
| larsu | willcooke: sure! | 07:31 |
| willcooke | larsu, @ do it again - acknowledged! | 07:32 |
| larsu | willcooke: feel free to ask if it comes up again. Just not sure yet :) | 07:33 |
| larsu | hm, the launcher is showing two irssi again | 07:34 |
| * larsu blames Laney's gnome-terminal wrapper | 07:34 | |
| seb128 | willcooke, btw, we got desktop-next-snappy to build on amd64 now and a channel up for it, having issue with u-d-f to generate the image now, but it's getting there | 07:40 |
| seb128 | u-d-f needs some changes to know about the new channel and partition scheme update (they are coded to 1G that isn't enough for the personal image) | 07:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: hum, I don't remember if I pushed or still have the branch changing it | 07:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, "it"? | 07:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's quite easy to find in the source code | 07:45 |
| didrocks | the limit | 07:45 |
| didrocks | there are the uefi partition part and the traditional grub one | 07:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks, just tried http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700710/ | 07:45 |
| seb128 | but u-d-f bails out on | 07:45 |
| seb128 | "issue while mapping partitions: more partitions then expected while creating loop mapping" | 07:45 |
| seb128 | which might be something else | 07:46 |
| didrocks | oh, interesting | 07:46 |
| didrocks | didn't get that one | 07:46 |
| seb128 | waiting on sergiusens, he knows that tool better | 07:46 |
| didrocks | you only changed the grub part, without uefi | 07:46 |
| didrocks | though | 07:46 |
| seb128 | mvo, ^ | 07:46 |
| didrocks | (not sure which one you are using) | 07:46 |
| didrocks | unsure about the other error though | 07:46 |
| seb128 | I'm testing on i386 atm, so likely grub | 07:46 |
| seb128 | mvo has the same issue on amd64 though | 07:47 |
| didrocks | yeah, the 2 issues are unrelated for sure | 07:47 |
| seb128 | yeah, I wonder if the channel/partition scheme is different between core and personal | 07:47 |
| seb128 | and if u-d-f doesn't handle it | 07:47 |
| didrocks | can be… | 07:47 |
| didrocks | I modified the limit to install core at the time | 07:47 |
| didrocks | (and have more space) | 07:47 |
| didrocks | mvo: you probably want to change diskimage/core_uboot.go for the future as well | 07:48 |
| seb128 | why did you need that for core? | 07:48 |
| seb128 | the 1G should be enough there | 07:48 |
| mvo | didrocks: its just hacking around right now, this need some proper work | 07:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, the change is unconditional with your patch | 07:49 |
| seb128 | mvo, recompressed the device tarball in .xz locally, it's down from 148 to 120, not 78, something is weird with the file we get from the channel | 07:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: but both file (the one you got changed and the core_uboot) one are both for core as well | 07:49 |
| didrocks | just one is for uefi, the other for grub | 07:49 |
| seb128 | right | 07:49 |
| didrocks | the proper patch needs to have conditions | 07:49 |
| seb128 | or that needs to be a command line option | 07:50 |
| didrocks | yep | 07:50 |
| didrocks | (but I guess better to mirror the config for now as there is already some duplication to not wonder later "why this one is 4 and this one 1?" | 07:50 |
| seb128 | yeah | 07:51 |
| willcooke | seb128, udf? Ubuntu Disk ?? | 07:58 |
| willcooke | seb128, also.... woooo! Thank you! | 07:58 |
| seb128 | willcooke, no, https://code.launchpad.net/goget-ubuntu-touch | 07:58 |
| seb128 | willcooke, the go tool used to write snappy images | 07:58 |
| seb128 | build/write | 07:58 |
| willcooke | oooh, neat | 07:59 |
| willcooke | oooh, random email PGP encrypted | 08:00 |
| willcooke | from what looks like a dummy account | 08:00 |
| willcooke | do I bother decrypting it? | 08:00 |
| willcooke | Subject: Xmir | 08:00 |
| seb128 | it's robert_ancell playing tricks on you?! ;-) | 08:01 |
| willcooke | hahaha! | 08:02 |
| willcooke | oh, it's from a guy who wants to know how to run Xmir | 08:02 |
| willcooke | totally legit | 08:02 |
| willcooke | and disappointing :) | 08:02 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:02 |
| Laney | hello | 08:05 |
| larsu | morning Laney! | 08:05 |
| didrocks | hey Laney! | 08:05 |
| willcooke | ello laney | 08:05 |
| willcooke | Laney, Thunderstorms today \o/ | 08:05 |
| Laney | larsu: I hate owning that wrapper, I don't even use it, can someone else please just take it over from me? | 08:06 |
| Laney | willcooke: really? | 08:06 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, happy friday | 08:06 |
| Laney | better bring that washing in! | 08:06 |
| willcooke | :D | 08:06 |
| larsu | Laney: didrocks uses it.... *cough* | 08:06 |
| Laney | I just get pinged when it breaks | 08:06 |
| larsu | I guess everyone using gnome-terminal on ubuntu uses it :D | 08:06 |
| Laney | but I don't even make use of its facilities | 08:06 |
| Laney | so I will never see that myself | 08:06 |
| larsu | ah, fair enuogh | 08:06 |
| willcooke | didrocks, found out what was wrong with my webcam, I had a TV tuner plugged in and it was trying to use that instead | 08:07 |
| didrocks | willcooke: interesting, do you have any tool to switch your input video source? | 08:08 |
| willcooke | didrocks, I was fiddling to get SDR working, so I had some crazy kernel modules loaded | 08:08 |
| didrocks | willcooke: that's the risk when you play with too many toys :) | 08:09 |
| * Laney stabs dbus-test-runner | 09:30 | |
| * Laney screamcries | 09:33 | |
| Laney | tedg: please to help with the testsuite? | 09:33 |
| Laney | pitti: I guess you're on the udisks2 failure? | 09:47 |
| pitti | Laney: looking | 09:48 |
| Laney | ah, didn't mean to distract you, figured you would be there already | 09:49 |
| Laney | it's not glib's only blocker atm :) | 09:49 |
| Laney | dbus-test-runner/ppc worked after 3-4 retries though ... | 09:50 |
| Laney | but making things work that way makes me feel unclean | 09:50 |
| pitti | Laney: can reproduce locally, I'll investigate this today | 09:54 |
| Laney | sure, no rush, thanks | 09:55 |
| Laney | "general: rework menus of nautilus" | 11:02 |
| Laney | this might be a hard update ... | 11:02 |
| * Laney may pick something else for now :) | 11:07 | |
| ochosi | hey Laney | 11:12 |
| ochosi | just had a discussion within the xubuntu team about which milestones to join, and i was wondering what "I put myself down for nusakan (cdimage) pres butaning for A2 and B1." actually means | 11:13 |
| Laney | You need someone in Canonical to run the scripts which publish the images | 11:14 |
| Laney | nusakan is the machine which we do that on | 11:14 |
| ochosi | ok, i guess there were just several words there i have never heard before :) | 11:14 |
| ochosi | butaning? | 11:14 |
| ochosi | (i know what bhutan is and what butane is) | 11:14 |
| Laney | haha | 11:15 |
| Laney | just read it as running the scripts | 11:15 |
| Laney | press button :) | 11:15 |
| ochosi | oh, so "butaning" ~ "buttoning"? | 11:16 |
| ochosi | ah hehe, nice | 11:16 |
| Laney | It's some meme that I don't even know the origin of | 11:18 |
| * Laney fails at internet | 11:18 | |
| ochosi | there are days when i feel too old for memes | 11:18 |
| ochosi | (luckily there are also other days!) | 11:19 |
| Laney | anyway | 11:20 |
| Laney | hopefully we get volunteers | 11:20 |
| ochosi | indeed | 11:22 |
| ochosi | well we've done one last cycle, but we just lost the person knowing the most about it (elfy) | 11:22 |
| Laney | you lost elfy? | 11:22 |
| ochosi | well yes | 11:23 |
| Laney | bleh, shame | 11:23 |
| ochosi | i don't know any details (and i'm not sure i want to), but it was connected to the community council / kubuntu turmoil somehow | 11:23 |
| ochosi | so yeah, no fun | 11:24 |
| Laney | ya | 11:24 |
| ochosi | i might have to take on more QA duties within xubuntu now, so i'm not a huge fan of stepping up for the b1 release if i don't have to (sorry :/ ) | 11:25 |
| Laney | it's not essential to have the milestone if flavours don't want it | 11:26 |
| ochosi | yeah i know, we discussed it a bit | 11:27 |
| ochosi | let's see who else replies after me | 11:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, oh, btw, in case you didn't notice we have an amd64 build from desktop-next now ;-) | 11:41 |
| Laney | nice! | 11:42 |
| Laney | does the channel work? | 11:42 |
| seb128 | no | 11:42 |
| seb128 | well "work" | 11:42 |
| seb128 | it's configured/available | 11:42 |
| seb128 | but the image build fails | 11:42 |
| seb128 | could be client side u-d-f issue though | 11:42 |
| seb128 | c.f what I just wrote on #snappy | 11:42 |
| Laney | fair enough | 11:43 |
| Laney | getting there | 11:43 |
| seb128 | yeah | 11:43 |
| seb128 | we have most of the pieces in place now | 11:43 |
| Laney | how will you flash onto a laptop? | 11:46 |
| seb128 | you write an image with u-d-f and dd that to an usb stick | 11:47 |
| seb128 | then you boot that and you dd to a disk I guess | 11:47 |
| seb128 | the "installing" part is in the snappy team backlog | 11:47 |
| seb128 | having an image you can kvm boot or dd on an usb stick is already going to be a first step for testing | 11:48 |
| Laney | what is ubuntu-device-flash doing there? | 11:48 |
| seb128 | it's fetching tarballs from the server and combining them into a bootable image | 11:48 |
| seb128 | dealing with creating partitions and such | 11:48 |
| seb128 | and unpacking things where they should be | 11:48 |
| seb128 | doing the a-b scheme etc | 11:48 |
| Laney | can't we just make that thing straight away with the image build? | 11:49 |
| seb128 | mvo, ^ ? | 11:49 |
| seb128 | I'm unsure why we need the client side tools indeed | 11:50 |
| Laney | s/just// ;-) | 11:50 |
| seb128 | seems like it would be easier to download an img you can dd | 11:50 |
| * Laney dislikes that | 11:50 | |
| Laney | we used to call it the "categorical just" in computer science | 11:50 |
| seb128 | I guess they have their reasons | 11:50 |
| Laney | "isn't that just a <really complicated mathematical thing>?" | 11:50 |
| seb128 | "it's only code" :p | 11:51 |
| seb128 | Laney, one thing the u-d-f client side is useful for is that it let you tweaks bits of the image | 11:52 |
| seb128 | like the size of the rw partition | 11:52 |
| seb128 | or enabling dev mode or ssh | 11:52 |
| seb128 | well, I guess it makes sense in the snappy vision | 11:53 |
| seb128 | there is an ubuntu-core base | 11:53 |
| seb128 | then modular snaps for different hardware platforms and such | 11:53 |
| seb128 | so you can combine locally the bits you need | 11:53 |
| seb128 | rather than having to host imaged for every combinaison | 11:54 |
| seb128 | images | 11:54 |
| dgadomski | hello | 11:57 |
| dgadomski | seb128: do you remember the gvfs + samba + ACL issue we discussed some time ago? bug #1464645 | 11:58 |
| ubot5 | bug 1464645 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "Samba shares over gvfs do not respect ACL rules" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464645 | 11:58 |
| seb128 | dgadomski, hey | 11:58 |
| seb128 | not really no | 11:58 |
| seb128 | reading | 11:58 |
| seb128 | is that the thing you emailed the list about? | 11:59 |
| seb128 | e.g being able to specify mount options? | 11:59 |
| dgadomski | seb128: yes, that's the same thing | 11:59 |
| seb128 | k, I do remember yes | 11:59 |
| seb128 | we didn't have a bug about that? | 11:59 |
| mvo | seb128, Laney: doing that on cdimage would be ideal, we need to make it bootable there which is a bit tricky, kpartx is used for that right now and that requires root | 11:59 |
| dgadomski | seb128: I am not aware about any such bug | 12:00 |
| seb128 | dgadomski, so all the previous discussions were not based on a reported bug? | 12:00 |
| dgadomski | seb128: not a lp bug at least ;) I just wanted to know if that is even possible to implement before filing a bug | 12:01 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 12:01 |
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| seb128 | dgadomski, if none of our users reported the issue so it must not be important ;-) | 12:02 |
| dgadomski | seb128: yeah, probably it's just affecting specific environments | 12:02 |
| dgadomski | seb128: do you think it is possible to implement it by providing extra mount options by an env variable or a gsetting? | 12:04 |
| seb128 | dgadomski, unsure what would be the right level to specify the mount options | 12:05 |
| seb128 | maybe pitti has a better idea about that, he knows that stack better | 12:05 |
| dgadomski | I've been reading the gvfs code and it's architecture is pretty specific, I'm not entirely sure what is possible with that implementation | 12:06 |
| seb128 | is gvfs event the right layer for that? | 12:07 |
| seb128 | or would udisks be better? | 12:07 |
| dgadomski | if I understand it correctly there is a single mounted fuse filesystem reflecting all kinds of other filesystems with specific backends | 12:07 |
| seb128 | the fuse mounts are for clients that don't use gio/gvfs right? | 12:08 |
| seb128 | otherwise the specific backends don't go through that | 12:08 |
| seb128 | e.g samba uses libsamba | 12:08 |
| seb128 | not the fuse mount | 12:08 |
| dgadomski | is it? I was getting an impression that there is only one fuse mounted at /run/user/<uid>/gvfs and it just maps all the shares inside that single fuse | 12:09 |
| dgadomski | i.e. when I mount a samba share it is not displayed as a separate mount, it's just displayed as a dir below /run/user/<uid>/gvfs | 12:10 |
| seb128 | no, I think that's just an addition to allow non-gnome apps to access the mounts | 12:10 |
| seb128 | right | 12:10 |
| seb128 | the gvfs backend don't have fs access points | 12:10 |
| seb128 | if you talk to a smb://... uri it talk to gvfs which talks to the server using libsamba | 12:11 |
| dgadomski | oh, I see | 12:11 |
| seb128 | the fuse mounts are an extra feature so legacy apps/non gnome ones can access the mount | 12:11 |
| dgadomski | so I have confused that mechanism for the standard one | 12:12 |
| dgadomski | so you suspect this has to be done on a non-gvfs level? | 12:12 |
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| seb128 | dgadomski, no, in fact I'm unsure what your issue is | 12:16 |
| seb128 | the bug you report is one with the gvfs fuse compat mount | 12:16 |
| seb128 | but that mount is not used if you e.g edit a smb file with gedit | 12:16 |
| seb128 | so if you have a more specific user facing issue, fixing the fuse mount is not going to resolve it | 12:16 |
| seb128 | you should better open a bug explaining the user issue | 12:17 |
| seb128 | e.g "mount a server; edit a file in gedit; save; notice the file permissions are wrong" | 12:17 |
| seb128 | or whatever issue you are actually concerned about there | 12:17 |
| dgadomski | seb128: you are right, I misunderstood the problem while I was reporting the bug, I'll fix that | 12:18 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:18 |
| dgadomski | thank you seb128 | 12:18 |
| seb128 | yw! | 12:18 |
| seb128 | bah, GTK | 12:28 |
| * seb128 kicks the fileselector not letting you type the letter of a file or folder anymore | 12:28 | |
| seb128 | oh, typical gtk :-( | 12:29 |
| seb128 | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748672 | 12:29 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 748672 in Widget: GtkFileChooser "type-to-find doesnt work anymore" [Normal,New] | 12:29 |
| seb128 | "It's not a bug; the removal of the type-ahead search was very much intentional:" | 12:30 |
| seb128 | though mclasen hits he sort of want to fix just, they just did the typical "let's do what we want throwing things on the way and fix later" | 12:31 |
| Laney | ya this is bad | 12:32 |
| mvo | *urgh* | 12:32 |
| Laney | larsu had a mini argument with them about it | 12:32 |
| Laney | maybe it's easy to put back on, can you file a gtk316 bug? | 12:32 |
| mvo | this makes me want to have a different toolkit | 12:32 |
| seb128 | Laney, right, going to do that in a bit | 12:32 |
| seb128 | it's a one liner revert | 12:33 |
| seb128 | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=8f9c8120b9d8a4cfa9ed1777da37f7a2d618a3a6 | 12:33 |
| seb128 | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=71bd1c7e2c5252b5103bf029e437787e0a002951 as well | 12:33 |
| Laney | I am wary of saying that :) | 12:33 |
| Laney | it might have been in january but who knows what happened since | 12:33 |
| seb128 | right | 12:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1464654 | 12:38 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1464654 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "can't typeahead in the fileselector anymore with gtk 3.16" [Undecided,New] | 12:38 |
| Laney | thx | 12:38 |
| seb128 | yw! | 12:38 |
| * Laney tries LP git for gstreamer packaging | 12:39 | |
| seb128 | nice! | 12:39 |
| seb128 | could be a topic to discuss at Debconf ;-) | 12:39 |
| Laney | I should just be able to push an 'ubuntu' branch to LP | 12:40 |
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| Sweet5hark1 | libreoffice-5.0.0~beta3 building since 2 hours. and -- oh, wonders -- amd64 seems to be fixed. | 13:21 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 13:21 |
| ogra_ | where is the snap ? | 13:25 |
| Laney | no trolling, it's not fri... oh wait | 13:25 |
| ogra_ | lol | 13:25 |
| * didrocks snappifies ogra_ | 13:27 | |
| * ogra_ feels snappy now | 13:27 | |
| didrocks | I don't trust this guy, put him in a sandbox! :) | 13:27 |
| * didrocks hugs ogra_ | 13:27 | |
| * ogra_ hugs didrocks | 13:28 | |
| mdeslaur | has anyone else noticed that software-center in vivid doesn't show application icons anymore? | 13:34 |
| ogra_ | mdeslaur, i have them here | 13:35 |
| ogra_ | most are the generic box though ... | 13:36 |
| mdeslaur | ogra_: this is what I'm seeing in vivid: http://snag.gy/ahDyp.jpg | 13:37 |
| mdeslaur | yeah, all the generic icons instead of the application ones | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | right, but there are still apps that have a proper icon | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | (gparted, inkscape etc) | 13:37 |
| mdeslaur | a few work, but on utopic, I get all of them | 13:38 |
| ogra_ | weird | 13:38 |
| mdeslaur | this is utopic: http://snag.gy/s7hND.jpg | 13:39 |
| mdeslaur | mvo: where does software-center get it's icons from? | 13:41 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, guess what? | 13:44 |
| seb128 | it's a new-gtk issue... | 13:45 |
| seb128 | I bet it has to do with the change to enforce the icon size | 13:45 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: why, of course is it :) | 13:45 |
| seb128 | first thing I tried, use gtk 3.12 and ... bingo, it works | 13:45 |
| mvo | seb128: meh, on vivid? | 13:45 |
| seb128 | mvo, yes | 13:45 |
| mvo | :( | 13:45 |
| mdeslaur | awesomesauce | 13:46 |
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| seb128 | mvo, you might need to force the icon size you request | 13:52 |
| * didrocks whistles "backward compatibility" | 13:53 | |
| * seb128 whistles "gtk" | 13:53 | |
| mvo | seb128: we have a mail-thread about the maintenance just now, don't we :) | 13:53 |
| seb128 | mvo, yeah ;-) | 13:54 |
| * mdeslaur gets popcorn | 13:54 | |
| mvo | lol | 13:54 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: just rename it snappy-software-center | 13:54 |
| mvo | seb128: I can not even release, I don't know where the debian dir is, I'm happy to fixup stuff, but then it needs to become something that I can actually bzr-buildpackage | 13:55 |
| seb128 | oh, more fun | 13:55 |
| * mvo stops complaining and writes code | 13:55 | |
| mvo | mdeslaur: hahaha | 13:55 |
| seb128 | reviews are broken | 13:56 |
| seb128 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1462211 | 13:56 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1462211 in software-center (Ubuntu) "submit_review_gtk3.py throws an exception" [Undecided,New] | 13:56 |
| seb128 | works with old gtk as well | 13:56 |
| seb128 | invalid property n_rows on a GtkGrid | 13:56 |
| seb128 | shrug | 13:56 |
| seb128 | bug #1445745 | 13:57 |
| ubot5 | bug 1445745 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Not able to write a review (Unable to show 'none')" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445745 | 13:57 |
| seb128 | " It appears that the Glade utility uses an "n_rows" property field on GtkGrids that is no longer good" | 13:57 |
| didrocks | it's a way at least to not have bad reviews on software-center because there very few icons showing up ;) | 13:58 |
| seb128 | lol | 13:58 |
| mdeslaur | hehehe | 13:59 |
| desrt | hello from ottawa | 14:00 |
| seb128 | hey desrt ;-) | 14:00 |
| seb128 | how is ottawa? | 14:00 |
| pitti | hey desrt! | 14:00 |
| desrt | it's a beautiful city :) | 14:00 |
| pitti | desrt: oh, following the women's soccer championship? | 14:00 |
| desrt | and it's filled with people who have a lot of the same concerns as we often do... | 14:00 |
| desrt | pitti: BSDCan | 14:01 |
| * pitti was watching on Sun and yesterday | 14:01 | |
| didrocks | desrt: /!\ soccer discussion detected | 14:01 |
| desrt | didrocks: no kidding :) | 14:01 |
| desrt | too many europeans here :) | 14:01 |
| didrocks | :) | 14:02 |
| desrt | it's like a critical mass thing | 14:02 |
| desrt | pitti: i didn't realise it was here until yesterday when we randomly happened upon the stadium :) | 14:02 |
| pitti | didrocks: okay, okay, I STFU :) | 14:02 |
| seb128 | mvo, if you fix issues dobey can probably help you to roll a package update then | 14:03 |
| pitti | enjoying "ze games"? | 14:03 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you should enjoy woman soccer, Lyon has the best team in France ;-) | 14:03 |
| seb128 | be proud of your city ! :p | 14:04 |
| pitti | and it's muuuuch less commercialized than men's soccer | 14:04 |
| desrt | professional sports are lame | 14:04 |
| seb128 | here come the curling man ;-) | 14:05 |
| didrocks | seb128: really? I even didn't know it | 14:05 |
| desrt | man.. curling sure is swell | 14:05 |
| desrt | but even it's starting to get 'more professional' unfortunately :( | 14:05 |
| desrt | but i mean... seriously | 14:05 |
| desrt | look at what it turns into | 14:05 |
| desrt | the contest is who has the best drug chemists to better hide drugs | 14:05 |
| desrt | and who can give the biggest bribes to fifa or ioc without getting caught | 14:06 |
| didrocks | oh, it's time for Tour de France again ;) | 14:06 |
| didrocks | (saw chemist, hiding drugs…) | 14:06 |
| dobey | huh? | 14:06 |
| desrt | didrocks: ya.. another fine example | 14:06 |
| seb128 | hey dobey | 14:06 |
| dobey | oh, hmm | 14:07 |
| seb128 | dobey, mvo might need help to get s-c package updated ;-) | 14:08 |
| seb128 | unsure if you changed things when you were working on it | 14:08 |
| dobey | i made it non-native. but i'm sure mvo has sufficient upload permissions and can easily just throw a patch in debian/patches to quickly SRU something if needed | 14:09 |
| desrt | keynote talk right now is being given by the guy who invented environment variables | 14:11 |
| pitti | desrt: ah, long env var vs. dconf discussion after that? :-) | 14:13 |
| desrt | i don't know if dconf would run on a PDP. i'm rather certain it didn't exist in the 60s :) | 14:13 |
| desrt | just told an amusing story of how "void" got invented | 14:17 |
| desrt | ritchie was originally against it until he realise that he could save a single instruction :) | 14:17 |
| pitti | desrt: ah, otherwise everything would have had to return int? | 14:18 |
| desrt | ya | 14:18 |
| pitti | saves a pop off the stack, I figure :) | 14:18 |
| desrt | i guess they probably used a register | 14:18 |
| pitti | so, saves a LOAD reg, 0? | 14:18 |
| desrt | ya.. basically | 14:18 |
| seb128 | dobey, what vcs do you use? lp:software-center has no debian dir | 14:25 |
| dobey | seb128: indeed it doesn't. as i said, i changed it to be a non-native package. and UDD package import for it has been broken for a long time, so lp:ubuntu/software-center also is not up to date, so you need to use pull-lp-source for it | 14:27 |
| seb128 | dobey, mvo, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/software-center/gtkgrid-deprecated-nrow/+merge/261855 | 14:27 |
| seb128 | dobey, well, non-native could have been full source including debian/ dir in the vcs | 14:27 |
| seb128 | dobey, mvo, do you know what part of the code loads the icons on the main view? | 14:28 |
| dobey | seb128: if debian/ is in the upstream source tree, that is a native package. using non-native version numbers in the changelog and then including a bzr bd config file to tell it to create a non-native package using the tree, is evil | 14:28 |
| dobey | seb128: i do not. i'm not sure which parts of the main view are html versus gtk+ either. | 14:29 |
| seb128 | dobey, hum, k | 14:29 |
| dobey | seb128, mvo: i guess i could do the minimal work needed to convert software-center back to a native package and move it over to landing via ci train, if that would make things easier going forward. | 14:53 |
| seb128 | dobey, that would be nice | 14:53 |
| dobey | seb128: i'll see if i can find a little time to do that, after i finish what i'm currently working on | 14:54 |
| seb128 | dobey, thanks | 14:54 |
| pmcgowan | seb128, I am not getting xchat notifications since going to vivid I think is there a way to check if the plugin is working/loaded | 15:09 |
| seb128 | pmcgowan, go to the preferences, plugins and see if it's loaded | 15:09 |
| pmcgowan | seb128, sorry where? | 15:09 |
| seb128 | pmcgowan, using xchat or xchat-gnome? | 15:10 |
| pmcgowan | seb128, xchat, and I see it in the messaging drop down | 15:10 |
| pmcgowan | but nothing is showing up | 15:10 |
| seb128 | pmcgowan, yeah, that's orthogonal | 15:10 |
| pmcgowan | nice word | 15:11 |
| seb128 | it means it's a known app, not that the client is enable/sending messages | 15:11 |
| seb128 | I'm using xchat-gnome | 15:11 |
| seb128 | unsure where the plugins options are under xchat | 15:11 |
| seb128 | look in the menus/preferences? | 15:11 |
| pmcgowan | looking | 15:11 |
| pmcgowan | says its loaded | 15:13 |
| seb128 | what plugin? | 15:13 |
| pmcgowan | indicator.so from xchat-indicator | 15:13 |
| pmcgowan | messaging indicator | 15:14 |
| pmcgowan | wonder if I just reinstall it | 15:14 |
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| seb128 | pmcgowan, better? | 15:16 |
| pmcgowan | yeah its working after restarting the app | 15:17 |
| pmcgowan | weird | 15:17 |
| seb128 | weird it is | 15:24 |
| davmor2 | pmcgowan: it's vivid nothing surprises me | 15:24 |
| seb128 | larsu, Laney, desrt, you good people, is one of you having this year #gtk+ logs maybe? | 15:31 |
| seb128 | Laney, you win, I wish unity was in git now :p | 15:32 |
| Laney | seb128: yeah what are you after? | 15:32 |
| Laney | ha, how come? | 15:32 |
| seb128 | Laney, there was a discussion about gtk_icon_theme_has_icon () that doesn't work anymore/the same way after gtk update | 15:33 |
| seb128 | that bite andyrock/unity like previous cycle | 15:33 |
| seb128 | I don't remember the details | 15:33 |
| seb128 | but I think software-center not loading icons is the same | 15:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, with git I could grep through historical changes in unity that mention gtk_icon_theme_has_icon in their diff I think ;-) | 15:34 |
| * seb128 read about that,never tried | 15:34 | |
| seb128 | well, maybe bzr can do the same but I don't know how | 15:34 |
| Laney | #gtk+.log-20140722.gz:21/07 13:26:03 <ricotz> mclasen, hi, do you know if it is intended that gtk_icon_theme_has_icon() returns false for icons located in e.g. /usr/share/pixmaps while gtk_icon_theme_load_icon() properly loads it? | 15:34 |
| Laney | ? | 15:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, that's it! | 15:34 |
| seb128 | that's bitting s-c as well | 15:34 |
| seb128 | what was the outcome? | 15:34 |
| Laney | no solution | 15:35 |
| seb128 | bah | 15:35 |
| Laney | mclasen hinted it was not intentional | 15:35 |
| * seb128 shakes fist at gtk | 15:35 | |
| seb128 | let me try to see what unity did | 15:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks! you just had a beer_owned++, can collect at Debconf ;-) | 15:36 |
| Laney | heh | 15:36 |
| Laney | you found it? | 15:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, not yet, but at least it confirms it's what I though | 15:37 |
| seb128 | Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/bamf/lp-1407192/+merge/246749 | 15:38 |
| seb128 | using gtk_icon_theme_lookup_icon() instead | 15:38 |
| Laney | ++ | 15:39 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, did you open a bug about the s-c icon thing? if not I would welcome one that I can use for a SRU | 15:41 |
| * seb128 fixed 2 s-c/gtk bugs now today, I might go for a third one ;-) | 15:42 | |
| Laney | smells like a new maintainer | 15:44 |
| seb128 | ^_^ | 15:45 |
| * seb128 uncommits and delete mps | 15:45 | |
| seb128 | me, touching s-c? never... | 15:45 |
| willcooke | :D | 15:45 |
| Laney | fix the black bar plz | 15:47 |
| Laney | the "Show technical items" one | 15:48 |
| seb128 | shrug, it's happening, people taking me for the maintainer! | 15:48 |
| seb128 | is that a theme issue? | 15:48 |
| Laney | HAHA nice try! | 15:49 |
| * Laney shields lars_u | 15:49 | |
| seb128 | :-) | 15:51 |
| Laney | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-base1.0/+git/gst-plugins-base1.0 | 15:51 |
| Laney | breaking new ground | 15:51 |
| seb128 | nice! | 15:53 |
| seb128 | working fine so far? | 15:53 |
| Laney | basics do | 15:54 |
| Laney | I wanted to have it under code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-base1.0 but that's not there yet | 15:54 |
| Laney | and I don't know what the workflow should look like either | 15:54 |
| Laney | like should I push the branches which are shared with Debian or not? | 15:55 |
| seb128 | good question, is that needed to merge from them? | 15:56 |
| seb128 | I guess not | 15:56 |
| seb128 | we can just pull from debian location | 15:56 |
| seb128 | but consistency/having things stored together is nice | 15:56 |
| Laney | then it's more complex to checkout | 15:56 |
| Laney | and weird if we want to go ahead | 15:57 |
| Laney | (going to catch a train, bbiab from it assuming there is signal) | 16:01 |
| seb128 | Laney, have fun | 16:01 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: I haven't. Still want one? | 16:04 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, yes, please | 16:05 |
| mdeslaur | ok, one sec | 16:05 |
| seb128 | thanks | 16:06 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: bug 1464722 | 16:07 |
| ubot5 | bug 1464722 in software-center (Ubuntu) "No longer displays most application icons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1464722 | 16:07 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, thanks | 16:07 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, mvo, dobey: https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/software-center/gtk-has-icon/+merge/261867 | 16:11 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, you should be able to edit the installed version if you want to test that | 16:11 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: yep, that worked | 16:13 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, great | 16:14 |
| seb128 | I'm going to upload to wily now and SRU next week | 16:15 |
| mdeslaur | cool, thanks | 16:16 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, in fact SRUed while I was at it | 16:25 |
| seb128 | on that note I'm going for a walk, back in ~1h to deal with backlog and calling it a week | 16:25 |
| seb128 | have a good w.e for those going now | 16:26 |
| mdeslaur | cool | 16:26 |
| mdeslaur | bye! | 16:26 |
| Laney | yo homies | 16:48 |
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| willcooke | happy weekend all | 17:09 |
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