[05:40] Morning everyone [05:46] Morning everyone [06:29] morning all [06:30] o/ [06:31] Morning oom Kilos , gremble [06:31] Oom Kilos this sleeping late is becoming a habbit [06:31] hi gremble ambo aquarat barrydk captine confluency Cryterion drussell mazal Squirm Squirm ThatGraemeGuy tumbleweed etc etc [06:32] ya man no sun [06:32] so weird rain in mid winter [06:32] Ons kannie so werkie , ek raak aanie slaap hier sonder oom [06:32] ai! skuus man [06:32] lol [06:32] hi MaNL [06:33] morning [06:34] mornings [06:42] Morning all [06:49] hi Xethron [07:19] good mornings [07:19] There are a lot of people here in the mornings [07:19] hi inetpro [07:19] Good morning inetpro ThatGraemeGuy and Cryterion [07:19] And mazal [07:20] lol [07:20] inetpro your afk thing works kiff [07:21] i must check if i have mine set [07:23] Mine only works here at work [07:23] Home one doesn't work [07:24] pro has his working from both ends now same like fly [07:25] At least I know why my home one doesn't work [07:25] * mazal mumbles something about crappy OS [07:25] lol [07:26] So I am not allowed to say which irc client I use and if there is a better one for that OS :P [07:26] mIRC? [07:27] I ain't saying anything , inetpro gonna put us in dogbox [07:27] lol [07:28] ai! [07:28] cant you get xchat for it anymore [07:28] hahaha he watches everything [07:28] and only answers selectively [07:29] I detest installers that you download that then downloads their installers [07:30] https://hexchat.github.io/ [07:30] Why can't you just download the entire thing and let me install it offline if I should want to?! [07:31] ya that is rather painful [07:32] mazal ^^ [07:38] I don't know whether anyone here uses github pages. Have a look at prose.io if you do [07:45] what is that about gremble [07:46] what wants to authorise what [07:50] Kilos: That is the exact cuplrit righ there [07:51] hexchat is what I am using [07:51] oh my [07:52] * Cryterion is away: Auto-away after 2 mins idle (gone at 12th Jun, 07:52:31) === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`afk [07:53] Kilos: if you have a github repository, it wants to get permissions to write to it [07:53] Then you can use it to write prose to github [07:53] Useful for authoring Pages sites [07:54] is it a good thing or a bad thing [07:54] i dont sommer trust anything [07:54] stickyboy lives on github [07:54] hi magespawn [07:55] hi kilos [07:55] I am giving it a whirl and see what's up [07:55] cool ty [07:55] It's easy to revoke permissions [07:56] apparently thos dns servers that are causing my problem actually belong to mtn, and they have specifically null routed that web address [07:56] s/thos/those [07:56] eish [07:57] so afrihost is going to get hold of them and find out why, afrihost said they were not aware of it [07:57] Because hacking is bad mmkay [07:57] good, thats the way [07:58] gremble that may be, but they are still not suppposed to stop you going to the website [07:58] what you want to view should be your own option not the isp's [07:58] maybe i can get a job arihost [07:58] No, I know. It is good that these things come out [07:59] s/arihost/afrihost [07:59] I wouldn't be surprised if there is more subtle censorship going on [07:59] exactly, this makes me want to dig into it more and see what else i can find [07:59] lol [08:00] rock the boat [08:00] dont tip the boat over [08:06] * Padroni greets the room [08:06] hi Padroni wb [08:06] hi kilos [08:06] how are you? [08:06] gfood ty and you? [08:06] good as well [08:07] cold fingers go where they like [08:07] embarrased for not being here more often [08:07] * Padroni greets ThatGraemeGuy [08:07] well at least thats a good sign [08:08] anything interesting happen? [08:08] um [08:09] magespawn fighting afrihost to fight mtn to not try steal his right to open pages he wants to view [08:10] magespawn give the link [08:10] * Padroni thinks this should be interesting... [08:10] read last nights log [08:11] and this morning he told who the culprit is [08:12] morning Padroni [08:12] heres what wouldnt open www.defcon.org [08:14] I get this: [08:14] SSL connection error [08:14] Unable to make a secure connection to the server. This may be a problem with the server, or it may be requiring a client authentication certificate that you don't have. [08:14] morning all [08:15] hi pieter2627 [08:15] ha they dont like you either [08:15] * Padroni wonder if it will work via TOR [08:15] Link Kilos? [08:15] hi mage [08:15] hi Padroni [08:15] np magespawn i gave it [08:16] any news on that defcon thing [08:16] works kiff here Padroni [08:16] * Padroni notes he is also with Afrihost [08:16] just that it is the mtn dns servers that have that address null routed [08:16] if you switch your DNS to Google, does it work? [08:17] yes but it has to be switched at a computer level, not at the router [08:18] yeah this is some bullshit [08:18] did you get any reaction from Afrihost? [08:19] ya they told him mtn blocke3d it [08:20] but only from his linux machine not the windows one [08:20] i spoke to the call centre who called up one of their network tech, who found out that it is the mtn dns the problem, the call centre said they would get back to me [08:21] of course they will [08:22] because callcentres are renowned for calling back with answers [08:22] lol [08:22] I worked at a callcenter once. No one liked it when I called them :( [08:23] What did you sell? [08:23] Liberty Life [08:23] Shit job [08:23] I don't know what I was expecting... [08:23] Kilos that is because i had google dns on the win laptop [08:24] ah [08:24] gremble [08:24] working for liberty must be the same as buying an Isuzu double-cab? [08:24] actually no [08:24] with the Isuzu you can still tint the windows so no one recognise you ... [08:24] Padroni i have had relatively good experiences with Afrihost call centre [08:24] i member one time i had to add that in /etc/sources/list i think fly said [08:24] 8.8.8.8 [08:25] yeah in Windows you add it in your network settings [08:25] or hosts file [08:25] but I advise against the latter [08:25] too many things can go wrong with that [08:26] i had to do it to get a second pc to share my 3g connection iirc [08:26] using iptables [08:26] You're practically invisible, except for the hatred and contempt ;P [08:28] This is so far an interesting read www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-paul-ford-what-is-code/ [08:28] Kilos: i think that should be /etc/resolv.conf [08:29] oh maybe there ya [08:29] but that was a few releases ago , 14.04 dont have that prob [08:37] anyone with a law background here? [08:38] lol yeah [08:38] you? [08:38] hell no [08:38] ah [08:38] don't think lawyers would typically know how to use IRC [08:39] yeah, it was a long shot, I guess [08:45] i know a little [08:46] oi what did you do wrong now Padroni [08:46] you know me [08:46] everything [08:46] lol === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [08:58] Padroni: what you need? [08:59] just an opinion [08:59] What law you have a problem with? [08:59] busy talking with mage though [08:59] Ah, ok [08:59] My girlfriend's a lawyer, so, just shout [09:00] thanx thoughy [09:00] *though [09:00] I can pass it on to her and see what she knows [09:00] No problem :) [09:02] "Everyday is Arbor Day in Codeville" [09:03] you guys should see the Thug Life compilations on youtube [09:04] some funny stuff [09:19] môre [09:19] o/ [09:31] hi solidity [09:38] I want to test something with my irc client, can someone say my name again? [09:39] my name again [09:39] * ThatGraemeGuy laughs at his excellent humour [09:39] lol [09:39] solidity [09:39] solidity [09:39] cool thanks [09:40] * solidity chuckles at excellent humour as well. [09:41] i wonder if one can do it with your own nick [09:41] hi Kilos [09:42] na [10:02] irssi does it with mine [10:02] well, If I say my own. But that is probably just lazy parsing :P [10:03] It's not a bug, it's a feature! [10:03] I'm trying to see how much I can turn irccloud into a desktop app. [10:04] But there is only so much I can do with wrapping it in a chrome app. [10:04] So notifications are limited. [10:19] I want to make something that can concurrently buffer youtube videos :o [10:21] hey can anyone get here http://support.hp.com/us-en/product/HP-Officejet-Pro-L7000-All-in-One-Printer-series/2511708/model/3643610 [10:24] i am checking is it down now [10:24] is it down says it is up [10:24] Maaz help [10:24] magespawn: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [10:24] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [10:24] nope [10:25] not loading [10:25] afrihost again? or something else? [10:25] Maaz help me with monitering things [10:25] magespawn: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [10:25] my net is also for shit suddenly [10:25] also with afrihost [10:25] what can you do [10:26] yup cant get into the bank or their own client zone [10:26] Maaz what can you do [10:26] magespawn: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [10:26] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [10:26] Maaz monitering things [10:26] magespawn: Excuse me? [10:26] Maaz help with monitering things [10:26] magespawn: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [10:27] Maaz help with me monitering things [10:27] magespawn: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [10:27] okay i am not sure how to ask my question here [10:28] I can view the page fine. [10:28] i see the printer [10:29] yup sp it looks like it is an afrihost problem [10:30] loading for me too now [10:30] but really taking its time [10:30] hey afrihost 1993 called they want their internet back [10:37] managed to rescue my power supply from the clutches of Capemail, victory [10:44] now I just need to figure out where to get input connectors that will fit this and what the polarity is :/ [10:50] http://hetznercareers.theresumator.com/apply/x2286b/Experienced-Software-Developer - if anyone may be interested [11:20] magespelling [11:20] monitoring [11:20] ai! [12:12] How would I delete everything in a directory, except some specific things, instead of iterating through everything [12:14] gremble: what are the criteria for "specific things"? [12:15] a folder called venv/ [12:15] I want to reclone a git repo into the same folder to run the same virtual environment with it [12:17] Nevermind [12:17] Did it with ranger [12:20] Lame. Can only clone into an empty directory [12:23] * mazal peaks in [12:32] * andrewlsd greets all here [12:36] Hi andrewlsd , very quiet in here [12:37] Everyone must be on weekend already [12:38] It is too cold to use the keyboards [12:39] they need to invent that telepathy keyboard now [12:39] stop working on other crap and get that out the way [12:41] Hi mazal , I see so. I was shivering under a blanket earlier during load-shedding. [12:41] Padroni: +1 [12:42] Bye everyone , have a nice weekend , God bless [12:46] * Padroni wonders if '+1' = 1st warning... ? [12:59] hmm... [12:59] so lekker under the blankets [13:01] I hate you\ [13:06] lol [13:07] so lekker to have any avy nap [14:06] maaz: tell Cryterion been thinking of migrating the world db to a redis instance, a lot less disk I/O intensive. will let you know when I have anything to report. [14:06] ThatGraemeGuy: Sure, I'll tell Cryterion on freenode [14:08] superfly: ping [14:18] * Cryterion`hiding changes away reason from "I'm away" to "I'm away" [14:31] Padroni: +1 meant, I agree. and yeah, hope you're going to make that [14:34] Maaz: tell kmf that it has been a long time since i have seen him [14:34] andrewlsd: Got it, I'll tell kmf on freenode [14:36] cheers all [14:36] * andrewlsd disconnects for the weekend. [14:36] sjoe [14:36] enjoy [14:36] thanks Kilos [14:37] stay under the blankets [14:37] hope yours involves successful mining ;-) [14:37] nono i dont mine anymore [14:37] Oh, what's yours isn't mine(d)? [14:38] lol [14:38] hmm. is that some kind of *test* [14:38] yipes, bit of a minefield. [14:38] haha [14:38] go feed the kids so they strong [14:39] * Kilos waits for who knows when load shedding will hit [14:39] Minetest game server reachable via Tor? a Minator [14:39] Mirror mirror on the wall who is the Minetest of them all? [14:39] * andrewlsd stops now === Russ_|Away is now known as rusbus [15:55] o/ [15:55] hi rusbus [15:56] hi person who forgets me [15:56] lol [15:56] sorry [15:56] ;) [15:56] i have to remember half the world man [16:03] o/ [16:04] o/ [16:04] thats so much easier than hi grumbles [16:15] * rusbus grunts in response [16:15] lol [16:15] i remembered the toti ite [16:16] there is actually a group on fb called that i think [16:18] totti? [16:18] toti [16:19] amanzimtoti [16:19] Oh, not the appendage [16:19] lol no man [16:19] Makes more sense [16:19] you got a one track mind [16:20] I have a no track mind [16:20] It slides around incoherently [16:20] hahaha [16:20] mine does that [16:20] makes it hard to concentrate on one thing at a time [16:23] I think my gfx card in my pc just died [16:23] D: [16:23] DD: [16:23] I will be so sad [16:23] eish [16:23] It's dead [16:23] they so expensive [16:23] Like my hopes and dreams [16:23] sadness [16:23] .. [16:23] no man [16:23] Haha [16:24] It gets signal, but without any content [16:24] clean all the contacts [16:24] dust bugs got you [16:36] wb MaNI [16:38] tx [16:46] and again :) [16:46] lol === MaNL is now known as MaNI [16:59] Toodles [17:00] See you guys next week [17:00] ok be good [17:21] kilos - random question, these old weller soldering stands, any idea what makes a good replacement 'sponge' for them? Nothing I try seems quite right [17:22] you can get the sponges [17:22] but even a wet rag works [17:23] it has to be a fairly dense sponge [17:24] I worry that the wrong sponge melts and coats the tip or something, I've heard that melting plastic or whatever with an iron can be really bad for that reason [17:24] im going to be getting one of those other pencils for R350 [17:24] use a piece of rag [17:24] conductive pencil? [17:24] or your finger [17:24] haha not putting that anywhere near my finger [17:24] nono the actualy soldering pencil like the weller one [17:25] listen [17:25] ahh [17:25] wipe your finger over it fast [17:25] no burn i promise [17:25] then another finger [17:25] for the other side [17:27] power supply seems to have made it through customs intact at least [17:27] it seems our skins have a thin coating that must first burn away before you fell pain [17:27] thats great [17:28] haha I'll go for the rag rather :p [17:28] no man [17:28] i promise it wont burn [17:28] wipe fast and test [17:28] Why not just use a rag? [17:28] next time its on I'll get someone elst to try it :p [17:28] my sponge disappeared years ago with all the moves so thats how i do it [17:29] a damp rag is fine [17:29] puck puck puck puck [17:29] If there is some advantage to using your skin over a rag, then sure, but if there is no advantage, just use a rag? [17:29] too much hassle to wet a rag everytim [17:29] lol [17:30] im surrounded by chickens [17:30] I can spare a few seconds ;) [17:30] For some people: time to wet a rag > burning away bits of skin [17:30] lol [17:30] bravery and stupidity is often confused, but they are not the same thing :P [17:31] is = are* [17:31] next thing I can't access any of my bank accounts anymore because my fingerprints are gone [17:31] maybe if I'm planning a robbery I'll consider [17:31] lol no man [17:31] there is no damage [17:31] nm [17:32] you can also put lots of solder onthen just throw it off into a bin [17:32] resin core is best solder for pc board stuff [17:32] and clean copper [17:33] no idea what solder I'm using its on a roll thats older than me that I inherited [17:33] seems to work great though [17:33] red roll [17:34] mm no, just a semi translucent white plastic [17:35] relatively thin, I've got some thicker stuff as well but I never use it not good for most stuff [17:35] thiiner is better [17:36] the thickest one has some corrosive stuff on the outside so probably has to be thrown now anyway [17:37] they make 2 types the acid core is for dirty copper and surfaces that need to be cleaned first [17:37] resin core is for pc board work [17:37] guessing the thin is resin core, and the corroded one is acide core [17:38] i only know the red roles from national solder co. [17:38] never tried other makes [17:38] got a can of flux that I have no idea what to do with either - from my understanding its for the soldering iron equivalent of welding or something, not sure how long thats good for though as well so its probably no good [17:39] lasts forever i think [17:39] used when soldering tin surfaces [17:39] what flux is it [17:40] maybe for gas brazing [17:41] http://www.retonthenet.co.uk/ekmps/shops/retonthenet/images/vintage-hardware-tin-frys-fry-s-flux-fluxite-soldering-paste-6oz-net-circa-1970s-full-3389-p.jpg [17:41] looks like that I think [17:42] you use that stuff if you dont have cored flux solder [17:42] resin and acid cores are lead with built in flux in the core [17:42] ahh [17:43] you could buy lead sticks at a time [17:43] okay so I'll just carry on not using that then :p [17:43] for soldering gutters and so on [17:43] yes [17:44] some modern things like head phones and mics have some funny coating that you have to burn off with a lighter before you can solder it [17:51] heh, I mostly just lengthen cables that are too short and replace broken capacitors :/ Got a few 'harder' projects I want to look at if some time frees up but its been years since I did anything more than that [17:51] ah [17:53] actually tries to repair a pair of headphones not long ago, but I wrecked the casing beyond repair trying to get it open so gave up on that one :p [17:53] lol [17:56] they don't make it easy to get into things :p [17:57] nope all modern things clip together and you can break them before you find where they clip together [17:57] big pain in my life [17:58] they used to have all sorts of devious tricks on old things as well, but because it was metal you could usually figure it out without wrecking it :p [17:58] lol [17:59] most old things had screws at least [17:59] or rivets you could drill out === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion [19:37] mantech/rs-electronics/rabtron - does anybody know any other large electronics stores that are worth looking at? [19:43] good evening [19:47] Mani Electrocomp, AvnetKopp [19:47] Depends on what you looking for [19:49] ai! [19:49] Evening inetpro [19:49] ohi Cryterion [19:50]