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Jordan_Ugt8ost4l: Please pastebin the exact output from running "nm-tool", whatever that output might be.00:00
gt8ost4ldont you think that would be a waste of time and server space00:00
Jordan_Ugt8ost4l: If it's a single line then feel free to post it in the channel.00:01
nicomachusthis luks partition is showing up as 999GB / 931GB on testdisk. :/00:01
gt8ost4lnm-tool: command not found00:02
kostkon!find nm-tool00:03
Jordan_Ugt8ost4l: Sorry, I didn't realize that command had been depricated.00:03
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:00:03
gt8ost4lso how do i install the drivers there 2 sys and 2 inf00:04
Bashing-omJordan_U: Also : minimal install : The program 'nm-tool' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:00:04
Bashing-omsudo apt-get install network-manager00:04
Jordan_Ugt8ost4l: Please pastebin the output of "nmcli dev list".00:05
Jordan_Ugt8ost4l: You already have the drivers for your wireless card installed (ath9k). You do *not* want to install NDISWrapper. Would you trust those facts if they were confirmed by others in the channel as well as me?00:07
gt8ost4lyep00:07
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: Confirmed. Jordan_U is most respected and has all 2,000 peeps complete confidence .00:08
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lovelinuxany idea on how to install the new version of Nemo00:31
Semiartyhello, I am using 14.04.2 Ubuntu server and for some reason when I try to shut it down, it goes off completely and then starts again, I used sudo shutdown -h now00:34
Semiartyanyone knows a fix for this or why is the reason that this is happening?00:34
x4Dx5ASemiarty: take a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/452750/reboot-after-shutdown-ubuntu-14-04-also-12-04-dell-latitude-e744000:35
hplcis it just me, or does IRC have an earthquake??00:36
Semiartythanks a lot x4Dx5A, it worked00:40
x4Dx5ASemiarty: no problem00:42
hplcin standard ubuntu desktop 14.04, i lost the left-side pillar with app-launchers in an accident, how to fix that? what pkg is it?00:44
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karlthaneHave laptop with uefi, went I it boots it gives error or no bootloader found, laptop will shut down. When I manually enter the boot menu, I have option for Ubuntu that then boots up normally. Any suggestions on how to get it to boot without having to manually select from bios boot menu?00:49
uioHullo - I am told by a website than I need to install Java. Is there an alternative to this? Iced tea something.... ? thanks00:50
BotanicI am trying to setup 2 gateways so that traffic goes out the interface associated with what it comes in on, i got that part to work however traffic from the host itself doesnt seem to work, if anyone has any ideas http://pastebin.ca/302502400:51
ubuntu173uio: There is open source java, if you're not aware.00:52
Garlotchhey guys, I just downloaded and installed gmod on my ubuntu MATE os. The shortcut on my desktop however, doesn't have the gmod icon, but rather the steam icon. Is there any way to ammend this? Thanks.00:53
uioubuntu173: Cool. Was not aware.00:53
ubuntu173Garlotch: If you right click the icons properties than the steam ican you can replace it with what you want.00:56
docmurdoes anyone know how to restore from backuppc?  I had an old hard disk with some images that were compilef from backuppc, I moved those folders to a new server, now I want to extract them folders so I view them, how do you go about this?00:57
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chaotixhey00:58
chaotixi am looking for documentation for packaging web pages as "ubuntu web apps" using the ubuntu browser00:58
Garlotchubuntu173: I don't see that option.00:59
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ubuntu173Garlotch: Is it that you don't know where the icons you might want are, you have to navigate to them to change.01:00
Garlotchubuntu173: under the shortcut's properties, there is Basic and Permissions. Basic has Name, Description, command and Comment. and permission you can imagine doesn't have an option to change the icon either.01:00
Garlotch....there's a shortcut on my desktop that i want the icon changed..01:00
Bashing-omdocmur: Are you asking how to mount a file system from the install and access the mounted file system ?01:01
chaotixGarlotch, open the shortcut with gedit, and after "icon" direct to the path you want for the icon, or you can also...01:01
ubuntu173Garlotch: Ah, are you right clicking the desktop icon, this may be a "mate issue" I'm not really up on the DE.01:01
Garlotch:/01:02
Garlotchshould i go to #ubuntu-mate and ask them?01:02
Garlotchchaotix: gedit eh? Is that cmd?01:02
Garlotchohhh ok, thanks Chaotix, got it. Solved! :)01:03
Garlotchcheers.01:03
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iepupphow to configure 'Use this connection only for resources on its network' without using GUI?01:05
iepuppi disabled the network manager GUI from /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf.01:10
chaotixjoin #ubuntu-offtopic01:10
chaotixoops01:10
Jordan_Uiepupp: I would understand "Use thie connection only for resources on its network" to mean "Don't consider this ethernet as a route for any networks other than its own". The main way that a connection ends up having a route for another network than its own, is by having a gateway on that network, advertising itself as such via DHCP. Is that the case for you?01:11
felix__29Hi, does anybody else have problems getting to the login screen with 14.04?01:14
iepuppyeah, I just want to configure it from CLI or config file i donot want to use GUI as i disabled it from from /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf01:15
felix__29well, for me it just doesn't wanna let me login after a cold start01:17
felix__29usually works on the second or third attempt though01:17
iepuppI have two interfaces setted up with DHCP (eth0 , eth1) by default it routes from eth0 i wanted to route the traffic to eth1 so inorder to achive this i checked 'Use this(eth0) connection only for resources on its network'01:19
felix__29so you're saying ubuntu is just not able to boot cleanly?01:20
vastkahunaHow do I get hulu to play in ubuntu?01:20
x4Dx5Avastkahuna: browser with flash?01:20
minthello01:21
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vastkahunaI have both firefox and chrome and neither will do it01:21
Guest84446we are anounymous01:21
x4Dx5Avastkahuna: but is flash installed and enabled in either browser?01:22
vastkahunaI'm trying to watch videos on comcast and they use hulu01:22
vastkahunaYes I believe it is01:22
ivan_on_tracIn ubuntu 10. I have 02 users. User1 is normal. User2 is very slow. a simple command "clear".It is very slow.01:22
kostkonvastkahuna, http://www.hulu.com/help/articles/16638001:24
x4Dx5Avastkahuna: if you open ff and go to about:plugins do you see libflashplayer.so in the list?01:24
Jordan_Uivan_on_trac: Have you only tested this slowness in a GUI environment, or does it happen with ttys or "su - user2" as well?01:24
ivan_on_tracJordan_U: Text environment. No GUI.01:25
x4Dx5Avastkahuna: also make sure if you have a plugin like noscript installed that it isn't blocking flash or javascript for hulu.com01:25
kostkonvastkahuna, in theory, it should be working in both browsers.01:25
vastkahunaYes01:25
kostkonvastkahuna, chrome even comes with built-in flash support01:26
Jordan_Uivan_on_trac: If you run "su user2" from being logged in as user1, do you see the same slowdown? What about with "su -user2" (note the '-')?01:26
Jordan_Uivan_on_trac: Sorry, that second command should have been "su - user2".01:26
ivan_on_tracJordan_U: same thing. It is slow.01:27
vastkahunaIn firefox it won't play at all, in chrome the ads that play before the video play just fine but when the video is supposed to start it just doesn't01:27
jaydemirhello all01:28
vastkahunaI'm wondering if they just don't support linux?01:28
x4Dx5Avastkahuna: any chance there is a web filter on your network blocking hulu?01:28
Jordan_Uivan_on_trac: Does top show anything in particular eating up a lot of CPU or RAM?01:28
kostkonvastkahuna, if you right click on the video, do you see the flash version text in the menu that appears01:28
ivan_on_tracJordan_U: su - user2 - was also slow.01:29
jaydemirAnyone here knowledgeable on the various desktop distros and releases and all that?01:30
bazhangjaydemir, ##linux01:30
OerHeksjaydemir, as long as it is ubuntu, you can ask here01:30
Jordan_Ujaydemir: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. If you have questions about other distributions please join ##linux.01:30
jaydemirgot you01:31
felix__29I have a question about Ubuntu: does anybody else have problems getting to the login screen with 14.04?01:31
ivan_on_tracJordan_U: the "top" did not show anything relevant.01:31
jaydemirI'm running xfce desktop installed via crouton on chrome os, I'm assuming it is some form of ubuntu01:31
vastkahunaWhen I right click on the video I don't see any mention of flash, whether it's enabled or not01:32
Jordan_Uivan_on_trac: What about "su user2 -c dash"?01:32
co_ohi guys, why are gnome apps broken on ubuntu? almost anything gnome- is broken, gnome-music, gnome-weather, gnome-clocks etc01:32
x4Dx5Avastkahuna: go to http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ and see what the page does01:33
jaydemirco_o what hardware are you running it on?01:33
x4Dx5Aif flash is working properly it should show an animation on the top of the page01:33
co_ojaydemir, does it matter?01:33
jaydemirif its running an ARM processor it does from what I'm told01:34
co_oah no.. it's an old amd x2 something + nvidia desktop01:34
co_othe apps are broken.. run gnome-weather for example01:35
co_opff.. never mind01:35
vastkahunaIt did some graphical display of their logo and now it's just showing what sytems it's available for01:35
jaydemirinstalling gweather now, gonna try it out01:36
x4Dx5Avastkahuna: well that means flash is installed and working01:36
vastkahunaAnd it just told me I have the up to date version01:36
ivan_on_tracJordan_U: I solved! I removed the .bash_profile of the home.01:36
jaydemirco_o yeah, I click it and no response01:38
co_oyeah01:38
kostkonvastkahuna, do videos play on the hulu website, if you have direct access to those that is01:38
co_olots of them are so broken it's not even funny :D01:38
jaydemirrunning xfce-desktop on acer C720 chromebook if it helps01:38
co_othanks jaydemir :D01:38
co_ogoing out for a drink. bye01:39
vastkahunaYes, I just played a clip they have for Jurassic World01:39
x4Dx5Avastkahuna: if you login and try a different video does it work?01:40
OerHeksvastkahuna, maybe you need this client http://itsfoss.com/install-hulu-desktop-app-ubuntu-linux/01:40
Jordan_Uivan_on_trac: What was in it that was causing things to be so slow?01:40
kostkonvastkahuna, blame your isp then i guess. what about full movies?01:40
TechspectreIs there still an advantage to upgrading via a clean install versus Ubuntu's upgrade feature?01:41
x4Dx5AOerHeks: hulu labs does have a hulu desktop but vastkahuna's browsers should still be able to play the videos without it01:41
vastkahunaJust general tv content, it's actually on comcast and they use hulu01:42
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ivan_on_tracJordan_U: In ".bash_profile" I had nothing beyond the default.01:43
kostkonvastkahuna, so actually the problem is that you cannot play the hulu videos embedded in the comcast's website01:44
ivan_on_tracJordan_U: That same user. I had the .bashrc and .bash_profile01:44
kostkonvastkahuna, is that it?01:44
vastkahunaYes that is my issue01:44
kostkonvastkahuna, are you using any kind of ad blockers, video downloaders or fliters, etc you could disable or any other assortment of browser plugins01:46
x4Dx5Avastkahuna: do you login to the comcast site with your comcast account or do you login with your hulu account?01:46
jaydemiranyone use mupen64?01:46
x4Dx5Avastkahuna: if comcast makes you login with hulu and you have noscript installed it might block the cross site request01:47
vastkahunaI'm not using any of those, unless comcast is and I don't know the answer to that01:47
Jordan_Uvastkahuna: What happens when you try to play a Hulu video?01:48
Jordan_U!screenshot | vastkahuna01:49
ubottuvastkahuna: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here.01:49
vastkahunaI just log in at comcast and click a video and it plays no problem, if I'm on a windows machine. On linux it was giving me a message stating that I need to update flash but I know now thatis upto date and now it doesn't give me any message it just doesn't play01:51
kostkonvastkahuna, try clearing your cookies for the website01:52
vastkahunaI did that already and it made no difference01:52
Jordan_Uvastkahuna: In chrome, please open a new incognito window and visite http://www.hulu.com/test-videos , from there try to play one of the test videos, without logging in.01:53
vastkahunaVideos play fine there01:56
Jordan_Uvastkahuna: OK. I'm not sure what you mean when you talk about logging in via comcast, but maybe the site you're using uses a slightly different player than is used with Hulu normally. To see if it's just incognito mode that's fixing things, try logging in how you normally would in that incognito window and see if  you can watch any shows.01:57
juniorsaHi - I am installing 14.04 server and I want to install raid1 - I can't make the raid device bootable - in all the docs it says to make it bootable - any suggestions?01:59
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: What docs are you referring to specifically? "make it bootable" is not a very meaninfull instruction.02:00
vastkahunaI tried incognito and normally, same results. Logging in on comcast with your comcast email to prove you have an account with them so you can watch on computer or away from home02:00
juniorsaJordan_U: maybe not all the docs :) I just watched a video and it said it there - is it not necessary?02:02
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: "Make it bootable" is an essentially meaningless statement, especially when referring to a RAID array. You definitely need to have a bootloader installed, but that's true with or without RAID. I would stick to official documentation rather than youtube videos.02:04
juniorsaJordan_U: ok will do - I'm continuing with the install ...02:04
juniorsaI will install grub at the end02:04
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juniorsa"Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda  when trying to install Grub boot loader on hard drive02:09
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: Is this mdraid or fakeraid? Are you making an array of member drives, or member partitions? What partition table type (GPT vs msdos) is used on these drives?02:11
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juniorsaJordan_U: mdraid - 2 3TB drives - 1 raid for swap and 1 raid for the rest of the available space with the /02:12
juniorsaJordan_U: how do I check the partition type now?02:12
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: If they're 3 TiB then I would hope they use GPT, or you'd only be able to use 2 of your 3 TiB. Did you create a BIOS boot Partition on each of the drives?02:13
juniorsano I didn't is that necessary?02:13
juniorsawhere do I choose gpt?02:14
mgolischwhen creating the partition table02:14
mgolischi think mbr is limited to 1.5tb or so02:14
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: By default Ubuntu's installer will use whatever partition table type is already on the drive. Unless you changed it, your drives came with GPT.02:14
mgolischdont remember id always go with gpt unless some os you boot doenst support it02:15
juniorsaok I'll start over with a new partition table02:15
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: You do however need to create the BIOS Boot Partitions yourself, if you want to be able to boot from these drives on a BIOS based system. If you want to be able to boot via UEFI you'll need an EFI System Partition instead.02:16
victominahi02:16
juniorsaok is the bios boot parition something new?02:16
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: It's not very new, but as GPT formatted drives have become more common people have needed to know about it more frequently than they previously did.02:18
juniorsahow big should the bios boot partition be?02:18
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: 1 MiB.02:19
juniorsaok I'll do that now02:19
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: And ideally the BBPs should be the first partition on each drive.02:19
Tony_hi all, I met a problem on 14.04 about indicator-messages.02:19
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/BIOS-installation.html02:20
Tony_after minimize xchat, when I resume the xchat from indicator-messages.02:20
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: Is your computer in fact BIOS based rather than UEFI based?02:20
Tony_it always boot new one.02:20
Tony_Jordan_U, could you help me ?02:20
juniorsaJordan_U: yes it is bios based02:21
Tony_juniorsa, and you ?02:21
Jordan_UTony_: No.02:21
juniorsaTony_: I'm not sure I can help - I'm having problems of my own :)02:22
Tony__Tony_, test.02:24
ThesaurusI'm on 14.04 and my '/boot' is too full to update, what should I delete from here without breaking anything02:25
Jordan_UThesaurus: "sudo apt-get autoremove" should remove old kernels. Check the list of things it's going to remove first though, especially if it's long.02:26
Bashing-omThesaurus: If it is not at 100% capacity, try terminal command ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' to remove old kernels and free up disk space ,02:26
OerHeksTony_, xchat is rather old and no longer maintained by it's main developer, try hexchat02:26
Thesaurusthank you guys02:26
Tony__OerHeks, thank you.02:27
Tony__OerHeks, hi,  I installed the hexchat, I can not fond icon in the tray yet. maybe there are some trouble with my config ?02:36
xanguaIn Unity? did you install hexchat indicator package¿ Tony_02:37
Tony__xangua, It is Unity. okay, I will try to install indicator package at first. ;)02:38
Tony__xangua, could I install it by apt-get ?02:41
cmannscould anybody direct me where to ask about automated re-building of packages. Packages are already built for older version of ubuntu (12.04 or so)02:43
juniorsaJordan_U: when I create a partition table on the drives there is no option for GPT or msdos - is there a way to make sure I am creating a GPT one?02:43
Tony__I can not find the icon of hexchat in the Unity Systray on 14.04.02:43
ubuntu115Tony__: Were it me I would restart the DE or logout than in as a start.02:48
vastkahunaI just installed hulu desktop and it crashes when I attempt to launch it. Anyone know how to fix this?02:51
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Tony__<ubuntu115>  I haven't install hexchat indicator.02:53
bpsizemore_uit02:53
victominai'm for valdemort...are you ther02:53
victominathere02:53
ablest1980how i clean my system02:54
ablest1980sudo clean thing02:54
ubuntu115Tony__: Hexchat every timen I've installed loads everything you need, where is this install from?02:55
Tony__ubuntu115,  okay, I will try to restart Ubuntu. ;)02:56
ablest1980whats the command?02:56
ubuntu115vastkahuna: Has been not supported for awhile, there is a hulu gui that looks like a browser in the repos "unity-webbapps-hulu-player" might be worth a try.02:57
vastkahunaSo look for that in ubuntu software center?02:58
ubuntu115vastkahuna: Sure or an apt-get install02:59
ubuntu115vastkahuna: Seeing your troubles, I loaded that desktop crashes here, did not pursue a fix though, very far anyway03:00
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: I'm sure that debian installer defaults to GPT for such large drives, but I couldn't tell you how to create a BIOS Boot Partition from d-i. For how to do so manually see: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/BIOS-installation.html03:01
ablest1980someone help me03:02
vastkahunaI tried to install that from the terminal and it replied unable to locate package03:02
ubuntu115ablest1980: might start here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:02
Tony__ubuntu115,  after I reboot my computer, I can not fond the icon of hexchat in the SysTray.03:02
ablest1980whats that cmd bleachbit uses to clean sys03:02
ablest1980ok ty03:03
ubuntu115Tony__: Does it launch if you run hexchat in the terminal?03:03
Turnip_GreenSo fun question for the evening.  I am about to so some upgrades to my machine.  One is a R9 270 video card and eventually dual cards setup with crossfire.  Anyway is there any reason to stick to the open source drivers or is the hassle of AMD drivers worthwhile?03:04
Tony__I can launch it well, but I can minimize it.03:04
Bashing-omablest1980: General houseclean: ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get -f install . all there is to it .03:04
Tony__ubuntu115, the problem is that I can not minimize it.03:05
ablest1980ty bashing03:05
ablest1980XD03:06
Bashing-omablest1980: np . keep on keep'n on .03:06
ablest1980ok03:07
ubuntu115Tony__: Ah, but with no icon it's gone, without a command anyway sounds like. I'm not sure exactly, should be a done deal.03:07
ubuntu115ah cannot minimizw, missed that Tony__ my mistake03:07
juniorsaJordan_U: so I got the GPT done and install completed without incident but the system won't boot - I get into grub rescue now :( so close - I can boot from the cd in rescue a system and I am at a prompt :)03:08
Bashing-omTurnip_Green: R9 series and ATI cards see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244700 ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2278589 .03:08
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: Ubuntu's installer probably only installed grub's boot sector to the MBR of one of your drives. Try changing the boot order in your BIOS, then once booted into Ubuntu run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to configure Ubuntu to always install grub's boot sector to both drives' MBR.03:09
Turnip_GreenThank you Bashing-om, guess I've got some reading to do.03:10
Bashing-omTurnip_Green: Yeah, deep waters, I am not sure that crossfire has support .03:11
juniorsaJordan_U: it is asking me if I should keep the configuration file for grub or use the package maintainer's version03:12
rjsaltsI don't get it, if I write an upstart script with a pre-start script which does VAR=$(stuff) export VAR and then exec /path/to/program $VAR why is $VAR not being set up in pre-start?03:12
JinjaNinjaAny reason why adobe flash plugin doesn't work on web apps that I pin to my launcher? (Example, youtube)03:12
Turnip_GreenI've read the it does with the AMD drivers.  But deep waters none the less.  Then throw in the crossover stuff I'm toying with right now and I've got boat loads of fun.03:13
vastkahunaDoes anyone know what I need to get videos to play on comcast's website, they use hulu03:13
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: Use the package maintainer's version.03:13
rjsaltsoh, that's ugly03:13
HatycatSO it is it at all possible to get the dash to search youtube in Ubuntu 15.04? (unity 8)03:14
Jordan_Ujuniorsa: When it gets to the point of asking you about install devices be sure that both "sda" and "sdb" have '*'s next to them. You select a device with space bar, and continue on to the next question with Enter.03:14
Tony__hi body, which one IRC client can works well on the Ubuntu 14.04 64bit ?03:14
Bashing-omTurnip_Green: Well, On the bright side, You are having fun, and having fun and still not going to jail .03:15
Tony__which one do you guys use now ?03:15
juniorsaI still get error: disk `mduuid/ae376c598c768beedb5b2dd79d73e694` not found - entering rescue mode -- grub rescue>03:15
hero100xchat03:15
HatycatTony__: I use weechat03:15
Hatycatbut a bunch work03:15
juniorsaJordan_U: yes I did select both drives and it successfully installed without errors - still won't boot03:15
Jordan_U!bootinfo | juniorsa03:16
ubottujuniorsa: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Please run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then !pastebin the RESULTS.txt for us to use to help diagnose your problem.03:16
Tony__Hatycat, can it minimize in tray ?03:16
Tony__Unity.03:16
Turnip_GreenBashing-om the fun would most certainly stop in jail.  Try to avoid such places, they don't agree with me.03:16
ytretony use hexchat03:17
Tony__hero100, Hatycat, ytre, I tried xchat and hexchat, but I can not be minimize in SysTray(Ubuntu 14.04 64bit Unity).03:18
Bashing-omTurnip_Green: In all my experience, I have never known of anyone going to jail working to get graphics drivers working ! OH joy !03:18
HatycatTony__: weechat is just a terminal client, so yeah use hexchat I use it on windows its great03:18
Hatycathmm maybe use weechat than?03:18
Hatycatagain its just a terminal client tho03:18
Turnip_GreenBashing-om true story.  It is a rare occurrence, but the world of a frustrated geek can be turbulent.03:19
Tony__Hatycat, okay, thank you for your advice. ;P03:20
pz3GullHello, World! @Tony__, I've just started to use IRC and "irssi" client looks good.03:21
Tony__pz3Gull, why you guys don't you client with GUI ?   : |03:22
Tony__pz3Gull, without GUI, I can not works fine.  ;P03:23
pz3Gull@Tony__, GUI or not GUI, that is the question! But it depends of each one ;)03:29
shachafI upgraded Ubuntu from 14.04 to 15.04. Now when I run Chromium, it takes it a long time to render when I switch to a window (i.e. I see a line moving down the screen as it paints the window). I'm using nvidia proprietary drivers but in Intel mode, at 3200x1800. No other program (including Google Chrome) seems to do it. Has anyone else seen this problem?03:29
RazzdollI have an issue/problem if I may. I installed World of Warcraft, and it runs, but when I start it, it does not display text correctly. Its yellow and white blocks with a mix of arabic looking language. My version is 1.7 (wine), running ubuntu 15.04. I asked in #winehq, just thought I'd ask in here too because of me running ubuntu03:30
Tony__pz3Gull, haha. How humorous you are.03:31
juniorsaJordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11699936/03:31
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Razzdollbrb03:48
drone_I am looking for AMD AM1 graphics driver. The recommended driver seems to have a lot of lag when playing flash and videos04:16
lotuspsychjedrone_: ubuntu version please?04:17
drone_1504:18
lotuspsychjedrone_: did you try switch from additional drivers section?04:18
drone_yes04:18
drone_i also try fglrx driver04:19
lotuspsychjedrone_: and effect not good?04:19
drone_same problem..videos have lots of lag04:19
drone_i saved all my money to put together this machine to use linux for the summer :)04:19
lotuspsychjedrone_: whats your card chipset mate?04:19
lotuspsychjedrone_: you can check with sudo lshw -C video04:20
drone_PCI (sysfs)04:21
drone_Radeon HD 840004:21
lotuspsychjedrone_: did you test same on 14.04?04:22
drone_14.04 was ok...since i upgraded to 1504:22
lotuspsychjedrone_: you upgraded or fresh install?04:22
drone_i started having problems04:22
drone_fresh install04:22
lotuspsychjedrone_: maybe go back to LTS for more stable experience?04:23
drone_didnt know you could upgrade :(04:23
lotuspsychjedrone_: no, you did fine mate not reccomended to upgrade lts to non-lts04:23
lotuspsychjedrone_: did you enable internet+updates+3rd party software during setup?04:24
drone_yeah...i did :(04:24
lotuspsychjehmm ok04:24
drone_its weird though...i didnt use the same driver when it was in 1404:24
drone_i meant i USE the same driver04:24
lotuspsychjedrone_: can you remember wich modules?04:25
lotuspsychjedrone_: you can see with sudo lshw -C video behind driver04:25
drone_it was fglrx-updates04:25
drone_it was proprietary driver...not sure if they did anything funny to it04:25
lotuspsychjedrone_: but you tested them all you said right04:26
drone_yeah.. i tested them all ....same result04:26
drone_<---pulling hair out04:26
lotuspsychjedrone_: in most cases the driver ubuntu chooses works best04:26
lotuspsychjedrone_: if you cant get it straight on vivid, try back to 14.04 perhaps?04:26
drone_errr the xorg driver didnt perform that well imo04:26
lotuspsychjedrone_: what errors did you experience?04:27
drone_there wasnt any error...it just seems slower in Vivid04:27
lotuspsychjedrone_: some amd/ati card suffer xorg-video bugs, maybe would be wise you dig out your logs04:28
lotuspsychjedrone_: syslog and dmesg04:28
drone_so you think it's best to stick with xorg driver?04:28
lotuspsychjedrone_: in most cases its wise to use the driver ubuntu chooses, if you choose inetrnet+updates during install yes04:28
lotuspsychjedrone_: then after that, digout your logs to check whats wrong04:29
lotuspsychjedrone_: maybe its something else lagging?04:29
drone_reason why i switched driver because the recommended driver wasnt performing well04:29
lotuspsychjedrone_: overall system lag, or just games?04:29
drone_chrome, firefox ... games is fine04:30
lotuspsychjehmm04:30
drone_maybe it's chrome and firefox :(04:30
lotuspsychjedrone_: that doesnt make any sense, maybe your system speed lags and not vidoe driver04:30
lotuspsychjedrone_: try a few things: install preload, tweak unwanted systemd services,clean system with bleachbit04:31
lotuspsychjedrone_: see if that can speed up things04:31
lotuspsychje!info preload | drone_04:31
ubottudrone_: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (vivid), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB04:32
drone_is that on ubuntu sw center?04:32
lotuspsychjedrone_: and check your logs, very important to find your exact issue04:32
drone_i know bleachit is04:32
lotuspsychjedrone_: everything in repos should also show software centre04:32
drone_aite let me try that ! thank you04:33
lotuspsychjedrone_: install chromium-browser to speed up aswell04:33
shiblyMobile304:33
drone_yes i do have chromium...04:33
lotuspsychjedrone_: does your dash lag on you also?04:34
drone_dash seems fine04:34
lotuspsychjedrone_: i think its not a video issue then04:35
lotuspsychjedrone_: something else must be slowdown your system check syslog and dmesg04:35
drone_so ..sudo preload.. then i am done right :)04:36
lotuspsychjedrone_: no just install that and reboot04:37
lotuspsychjedrone_: its a boost service04:37
drone_aite.. brb rebooting04:37
lotuspsychjedrone_: wb04:42
drone_ahhh seems like that did it04:43
drone_dont know what preload does... but it fixes the problem for now04:43
* EriC^^ thought it was the bot at first04:43
lotuspsychje:p04:43
EriC^^i was like, i woke up too early today, obviously04:43
drone_i say 30% improvement04:44
lotuspsychjedrone_: you can pastebin your syslog and dmesg if you like04:44
lotuspsychjedrone_: maybe ill find something usefull04:44
lotuspsychjedrone_: clean out with bleachbit meanwhile04:44
drone_how do i get to syslog?04:44
lotuspsychjedrone_:/var/log/syslog04:44
drone_ah ok04:44
lotuspsychjedrone_: or use the log viewer icon from dash04:45
drone_syslog is a wall of text....omg04:46
drone_how can you tell if there's any problem when looking at syslog ?04:47
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lotuspsychjedrone_: hunting for errors04:47
lotuspsychjedrone_: unusual things, kernel panic,firmware bugs,etc04:48
lotuspsychjedrone_: modules not loading correctly04:48
drone_there must be a million lines of text..how do you know ?04:48
lotuspsychjedrone_: pastebin it mate :p04:48
henryweismannhi anyone around?04:51
drone_ah.. i need pro version to use pastebin04:51
lotuspsychjedrone_: pasteubuntu04:52
drone_oh! :)04:52
lotuspsychje!ask | henryweismann04:53
ubottuhenryweismann: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:53
drone_http://paste.ubuntu.com/11700277/04:53
lotuspsychjeok give me a min04:53
drone_you probably need days04:54
henryweismannok, thanks, i didnt realize people were already talking, the last channled i was in was dead,  im looking for paid support for ubuntu, someone in north America reachable by phone preferred to do remote support, i may have several different needs over the course of a year or however long, looking for long term help on an hourly basis, right now the pressing issue is a slow boot time, i already used the boot time image tool tha04:55
purelandhhh04:57
lotuspsychjedrone_: some acpi errors and efi04:58
xanguahenryweismann: for paid support contact Canonical04:58
lotuspsychjedrone_: do you dualboot or singleboot?04:58
drone_not sure i know what that means04:58
henryweismannno i need it for one computer04:58
drone_dual boot... i have debian running on the second harddriver04:58
henryweismannthey only offer 5 computers or more04:58
drone_harddrive04:58
henryweismannthey did away with paid support for individuals04:58
lotuspsychjedrone_: you disabled secureboot and fast boot from bios?04:58
drone_hm.. not sure !04:59
lotuspsychjedrone_: your system is uefi?04:59
drone_yes04:59
drone_should i just use legacy?04:59
lotuspsychjedrone_: dronebox kernel: [    0.000000] ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): O05:00
lotuspsychjedrone_: maybe also try a no_acpi boot05:00
drone_but i thought SSD needs that to run faster?05:00
lotuspsychjedrone_: secureboot and fastboot is to turnoff windows stuff05:01
lotuspsychjedrone_: also make sure bios is set to AHCI instead of IDE for ssd05:01
henryweismannlotuspsychje: they only offer 5 computers or more, they did away with paid support for individuals05:01
drone_ok will do....05:01
drone_anything else before i boot into bios05:01
lotuspsychjedrone_: F6 at grub to try the no_acpi boot05:02
drone_ok. btw should i run bleachit as root?05:02
lotuspsychjedrone_: best use the the normal bleachbit icon05:02
lotuspsychjedrone_: not very reccomended to run things as root05:03
drone_ok...rebooting brb05:03
xanguaPrice per desktop per year USD $105                  Standard05:04
henryweismann xangua: yeah i went to the next step and it required 5 desktops minimial05:07
drone_so....!05:11
lotuspsychjedrone_: wb05:11
lotuspsychjedrone_: found weird efi errors in your syslog05:11
lotuspsychjedrone_: never seen those before05:12
drone_oh oh! what is it now? :)05:12
henryweismannok well maybe I will try my local lug05:12
drone_btw what does preload do?05:13
lotuspsychjedrone_: preloading stuff, to boost things05:13
henryweismannthis is my thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2267518&p=13237759#post1323775905:14
drone_you need to run it only once?05:14
lotuspsychjedrone_: its installed as service now05:14
lotuspsychjedrone_: every time you boot05:14
drone_ah ! i see05:14
lotuspsychjedrone_: have to go now bbl05:15
drone_thanks a ton..05:15
lotuspsychjenp05:15
drone_ /bow /salute05:15
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OerHekshenryweismann, so did you do that e2fsck ? as the log suggests and a post too ?  142.982951] EXT4-fs (sdb1): warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended05:17
henryweismannOerHeks:  no I did not understand what I was doing, I don't like just changing things on my system without knowing what it does to some degree05:18
henryweismannOerHeks: so i guess it has to do with my connected usb drive?05:20
TonyMessaginmenu can not maximize the XChat. it alway launch new one.05:20
Tonywho has same issue ?05:20
OerHekshenryweismann, if that is the device with sdb1, yes05:21
henryweismannOerHeks: well to test that was the issue i disconnected the drive and rebooted and did not see it make the boot time better, but perhaps thats not a good test?05:22
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henryweismannOerHeks: I just am wary of  making system changes until i can verify it is the issue, or be sure that the change is no big deal05:23
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henryweismannOerHeks: but perhaps it is needed, i think i tried doing it but it didnt help05:24
henryweismannOerHeks: it was a while ago so i forget what i did05:24
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henryweismannOerHeks: i guess e2fsck is only a disk check so its fine to run, i guess my issue was it didnt work05:27
henryweismannOerHeks: sorry i gave up back when i posted and have not returned to it until now05:27
henryweismannOerHeks: hold on, forget to tell you if it was sdb105:28
henryweismannOerHeks: yes sdb1 and it is my usb drive05:29
henryweismannOerHeks: i have a new problem with that drive now too, once i added it to fstab (because it would never mount on reboot) it now created "Weismann Backup1" when I have aksed it to mount at "Weismann Backup"05:32
OerHeksgood, you give answers on your own questions. fix them.05:33
henryweismanni guess i could continue with the forum post05:35
henryweismanni never did reply05:36
henryweismanni got frustated, would rather find a company offering support for 1 ubuntu computer05:36
henryweismannannual price, hourly price, i dont care05:36
henryweismanni run my business on this machine05:36
henryweismannmakes me consider going back to windows, which i really dont want to do05:37
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OerHeksthe root of your issue is the way you mount it, i think05:38
henryweismannoh yeah?05:38
Ben64henryweismann: why pay for support? support is free in this channel05:38
OerHeksany mountpointname with a space in it is crazy.05:38
henryweismannwell i can give you the line in fstab05:38
OerHeks2. you already said you put a different name in fstab than te mountpointname05:39
OerHeks3 that is why fsck cannot run the partition, it cannot find it, and that is what you see in the log05:39
OerHeksso fix the name, in fstab and mountpoint, and when you reboot it fill find that sdb1 fine. maybe you do not need to run fsck afterall05:40
henryweismannwell i added the mount months after i had this problem i think, but wierd now i check my fstab and it is different fromt he last time ai looked?, perhaps the ubuntu upgrade changed it?05:40
OerHeksNo, upgrade does not change mountpoints, it is user error.05:41
OerHeks( name with spaces, ughh)05:41
henryweismannwierd because i thought i told it to mount at a certain folder name but thats not in fstab05:42
henryweismannhttp://pastebin.com/Fj64xeZk05:42
henryweismannyeah i know, i should probably change that05:42
henryweismanni named the drive a long time ago05:42
hero100Tony, I has the same issue with xchat.05:43
Tonyhero100, have you fixed it ?05:44
Tony;)05:44
jr_Can I install usb on the same flashdrive I'm using to initiate the installation process?05:45
EriC^^henryweismann: is that a ext4 partition?05:46
hero100no, just avoid to minimize it tray05:46
henryweismannyes it says it is05:46
EriC^^henryweismann: type sudo blkid /dev/sda305:46
henryweismannEric^^:/dev/sda3: UUID="ffb7b6fa-513f-47f1-b7aa-20e7ecec2ef9" TYPE="ext4"05:47
EriC^^ok05:47
henryweismanni wonder if bootwait will help?05:53
Tonyhero100, ping.05:53
EriC^^henryweismann: what's your problem?05:53
guppy_maybe someone can help me, im on lubuntu 15.04 and have installed fglrx from AMD prop. deb (15.05 version from site) after this my laptop monitor doesn't have the backlight turned on properly when X starts up.05:54
henryweismannwell the problem is a slow boot05:54
aavrugHello everyone05:55
henryweismannhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2267518&p=13237759#post1323775905:55
EriC^^henryweismann: type dmesg | nc termbin.com 999905:55
jpmh2I have a bluetooth headset.  It connects perferctly to my phone.  When I connect it to  ubuntu 12.4 I get the message that it is connected sucessful;ly.  Now how do I listen through it05:55
aavrugHow to upgrade only PHP version for my current ubuntu?05:55
henryweismannhttp://termbin.com/7oxg cool didnt know about that05:56
blackrootjpmh2: guess you have to change the playback device in sound settings05:56
henryweismanni have a bootchart in that uubyuntu thread as well but it is old05:56
TonyI have the same behavior like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-gnome/+bug/116887605:57
ubottuUbuntu bug 1168876 in xchat-gnome (Ubuntu) "x-chat cannot resume from its indicator" [Undecided,Confirmed]05:57
jpmh2blackroot: I went to pulse audio control - whic I usually use and the headset does not show there - I guess I should have added that05:57
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Tonywho can help me ?05:57
Tony14.0405:58
guppy_anyone who has experience with backlight issues after fglrx installation ?05:58
aavrugCan anyone help me with that?05:58
henryweismanni see this 17.365508] init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process (288) terminated with status 1 not sure what it means but before it is 7 and then its 1706:00
henryweismannoh that might be after boot06:01
henryweismannare those seconds or minutes before the .06:01
EriC^^henryweismann: seconds06:02
blackrootjpmh2: oh.. then i don't know06:02
blackrootnever tried it06:02
henryweismannok then i see two big jumps06:02
henryweismann7.721844] logitech-djdevice 0003:046D:C52B.0005: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [Logitech Unifying Device. Wireless PID:4004] on usb-0000:00:14.0-1.3:2 [   17.365508] init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process (288) terminated with status 106:02
henryweismann95.376666] init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (3717) terminated with status 1 [  153.698920] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)06:02
EriC^^!paste | henryweismann06:03
ubottuhenryweismann: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:03
henryweismannmaybe my wireless mouse/keyboard?06:03
EriC^^henryweismann: how long does it take to boot?06:03
henryweismannthank you bot06:03
henryweismannEric^^: about 2 min to get to the login screen then another 2 min after i login to see anything06:04
EriC^^henryweismann: did you try checking the hdd's healthy?06:05
EriC^^*health06:05
henryweismannno i did not, how should i do this?06:06
EriC^^sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 999906:06
henryweismannive been using the drive with no problems06:06
EriC^^henryweismann: i don't know if it could be the problem, just seems odd it does it after logging in too06:06
EriC^^henryweismann: did you check top to see if the cpu is being used a lot ?06:07
EriC^^henryweismann: open a tty, and type top, then login and see if some process is hanging or something is using up the cpu or something06:07
henryweismannwell after 4 min everything is fine06:08
EriC^^henryweismann: also you can check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log log06:08
henryweismannwell what do you take away from dmesg06:08
EriC^^henryweismann: i don't know seems to hang at times i guess, not sure06:09
anonimouseHello I am experiancing audio problems. Can anyone help me?06:12
henryweismannwhat is plymouth06:12
henryweismannsboth long pauses seem to be related to that06:12
EriC^^henryweismann: at the end it's pretty huge06:12
EriC^^goes from 95 to 153 then 22506:13
henryweismannyeah i see that06:13
henryweismannboth related to the plymouth thing06:13
EriC^^it also segfaults06:13
henryweismannim thinking possible my wireless mouse and leyboard?06:13
EriC^^what's everpad?06:13
henryweismannhaha i have no clue, guessing06:13
anonimouseHello can anyone help me?06:13
henryweismanneverpad is a notepad client for evernote06:14
henryweismanni note program that syncs with evernote06:14
bojanHi i want to permanently mount NFS sharing on client computer...??Can anyone tell me how to mount that and the syntax of fstab entry...I want to mount /mnt which ip is 192.168.1.606:14
EriC^^henryweismann: when you boot did you try pressing esc? or booting without quiet splash?06:15
henryweismannanonimouse: apparanty in irc it is proper etiquete to just ask your question and not ask to ask a question, im not very familiar with irc too06:15
EriC^^henryweismann: it might show what it's hanging at, like waiting for etc. etc.06:16
henryweismannno id dint06:16
henryweismannso i press esc?06:16
EriC^^yeah, or hold shift when the pc boots, and when you get grub press e06:16
henryweismannhow can i boot without quit splash06:16
EriC^^and go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz .... and remove the quiet splash , then press ctrl+x06:17
henryweismannok cool, i dont mind if it always shows me whats going on06:17
EriC^^that's just a one time thing06:17
EriC^^( unless you modify it to show always )06:18
EriC^^henryweismann: i mean unless you modify it in /etc/default/grub and update-grub06:19
anonimouseI have a dual boot with win 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04.1 . Yesterday when i used windows and i came back. I couldnt hear any audio from video files. After going through internet i saw that my default sound card is HDMI. I changed it in VLC so now I can hear sound in video files. But from yesterday online videos doesnt buffer. It keeps looping first 3 seconds and stops.06:19
anonimouseMy alsa mixer looks weird with 3 square(Not rectangular bars) all saying OO06:21
aavrugAny help with upgrading php version?06:22
bojananonimouse:Update flash player in browser06:22
bojanHi i want to permanently mount NFS sharing on client computer...??Can anyone tell me how to mount that and the syntax of fstab entry...I want to mount /mnt which ip is 192.168.1.606:22
EriC^^henryweismann: still there?06:23
anonimouseYes06:23
henryweismannyeah sorry got caught up reading  http://askubuntu.com/questions/33416/how-do-i-disable-the-boot-splash-screen-and-only-show-kernel-and-boot-text-inst06:23
EriC^^henryweismann: ok, if you want you could add plymouth:debug as well06:24
lotuspsychje!nfs | bojan06:24
ubottubojan: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.06:24
lotuspsychje!sound | anonimouse06:24
ubottuanonimouse: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.06:24
henryweismannok i think plymouth:debug is best to run once06:27
EriC^^henryweismann: yeah06:27
henryweismannil follow the steps at boot time06:27
henryweismannanything else in /etc/default/grub i should do to make sure i see all boot msgs?06:28
EriC^^henryweismann: you could add verbose06:29
henryweismannshould id do that at boot time though06:29
henryweismanni mean things is should set for always06:29
EriC^^henryweismann: this might be of help https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Boot_debugging#Light_Debug06:29
henryweismanndont want to slow it down anymore, except when on purpose to get info06:30
henryweismannhaha insane debug06:30
EriC^^henryweismann: just remove quiet splash if you want06:30
EriC^^from /etc/default/grub , and use verbose and plymouth:debug to see what's going on06:31
EriC^^as a one time thing06:31
henryweismannremoving plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text then will reboot and run plymouth and verbose debug at boot time06:33
EriC^^you mean the package?06:33
anonimousehenryweismann My computer pass all the test in that. My problem is listed accurately (with images) in http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1404/  . But i cant understand the two lines of the new files.06:33
henryweismannyes removing the package as suggested by that ask ubuntu answer06:33
EriC^^henryweismann: there's no need to remove the package06:34
EriC^^just remove quiet splash06:34
henryweismannoh ok, it said make sure it wasnt installed06:34
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AfdlaIf anyone knows about Adminer, why could it be that my theme setting doesn't update? I put the adminer.css next to the adminer.php in /usr/share/adminer/06:40
henryweismann EriC^^:: BRB, going to reboot06:40
EriC^^ok06:40
TheMessiaha wise man once said06:43
TheMessiah"I got hoes from all Ova! I call em staff........BAZHANGA"06:44
TheMessiah: D06:44
lotuspsychje!ot | TheMessiah06:44
ubottuTheMessiah: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:44
TheMessiah"I got hoes from all Ova! I call em staff........BAZHANGA"06:44
lotuspsychjeDJones: tnx and good morning :p06:44
DJonesNo probs06:44
shaharhello06:47
lotuspsychjeshahar: welcome, how can we help you?06:47
shaharMy first time on IRC06:48
tux_oo06:48
nexiawelcome to the land of the dead06:48
shaharyeah06:48
nexiaer, the living :p06:48
lotuspsychjeshahar: you have joined an ubuntu support channel, to solve issues06:48
nexia^06:49
NIGhtGERaldany way to speed up Ubuntu load time and make it as fast as windows 8?06:49
lotuspsychje!info preload | NIGhtGERald06:49
ubottuNIGhtGERald: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (vivid), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB06:49
shaharYou want to use uniy?06:49
NIGhtGERaldthank you!06:50
lotuspsychjeNIGhtGERald: wich version do you use?06:50
shaharunity06:50
NIGhtGERaldwhat's a unit?06:50
NIGhtGERaldI'm using 1506:50
shaharwhich desktop enviroment?06:50
shaharmaybe you should use Lubuntu or Xubuntu if your PC is old06:50
lotuspsychjeNIGhtGERald: bleachbit can cleanout your system to work faster also06:51
NIGhtGERaldthanks :)06:51
lotuspsychjeNIGhtGERald: and use lightweight packages for daily use06:51
EquinoxdawgIs there anything overly complicated about upgrading a VPS from Ubuntu 14.04 to 14.10?06:51
NIGhtGERaldmy laptop has a 4gb vram 860m06:51
lotuspsychjeEquinoxdawg: 14.10 is end of life mate06:51
NIGhtGERaldmy laptop has 16gb ddr3 ram06:52
EllieGouldingwindows 8 is cached in ram, that's probably why it appears faster06:52
EllieGouldinginstall peload06:52
xanguait will be end of life in a couple of weeks06:52
NIGhtGERaldthe processor is a 2.5 ghz has well06:52
EllieGouldingsudo apt-get install preload06:52
NIGhtGERaldhaswell06:52
EllieGouldingit'll cache your programs in ram so it'll load like a second or two faster06:52
Equinoxdawglotuspsychje: so what version should I use (specifics don't matter, latest etc is fine)?06:53
EriC^^Equinoxdawg: why upgrade? 14.04 is pretty good06:53
lotuspsychjeEquinoxdawg: depends your needs mate you want stable LTS or non-lts?06:53
EllieGouldingyea use 14.04, long term support06:53
EquinoxdawgThanks, I'll stick with 14.04 then. ;)06:53
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howerHello07:02
lotuspsychjehower: welcome, what can we do for you07:02
howerNo Thanks07:03
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henryweismannEric^^: still there?07:09
henryweismannhttp://termbin.com/ozlx07:11
ws2k3how can i force quit a pid when kill -9 does not work?07:11
henryweismanndmesg http://termbin.com/6gh9 and plymouth debug http://termbin.com/ozlx07:13
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: what was your issue exactly?07:22
henryweismanni was talking to eric^^ before, basically im having a slow boot, takes 2 minutes to boot to login screen then another 2 min after login07:23
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: wich ubuntu version?07:24
henryweismannmy post http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=7850518 ubuntu 14.04 lts07:25
henryweismanndmesg http://termbin.com/6gh9 and plymouth debug http://termbin.com/ozlx07:26
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: wrong forum url07:26
henryweismannoh07:26
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: your dmesg shows acpi warnings, did you try a no_acpi boot yet?07:26
henryweismannhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2267518&p=13237961#post1323796107:26
henryweismannlotuspsychje: what does no acpi do?07:27
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: bypass acpi problems07:27
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: some systems need that to boot properly07:27
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: worth a try in your case07:28
henryweismannlotuspsychje: haha thats a good answer, ok will add it, do i do it to / or the usb drive?07:28
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: you can load that from grub F607:28
henryweismannoh ok temporaraly07:28
lotuspsychjesure just to test07:28
henryweismannok07:28
henryweismannok brb, rebooting07:28
harishkrupohenryweismann, check the /var/log/boot.log file07:28
harishkrupohenryweismann, you can find the services and daemons that started while boot, which generally is the reason for slow start up07:29
henryweismannhttp://termbin.com/r5d007:29
henryweismannhttp://termbin.com/r5d0 (var/log/boot.log)07:31
henryweismannharishkrupo: see anything in there?07:31
harishkrupothey seem ok07:34
henryweismannhttp://termbin.com/6gh9 i have two points in dmesg whre its many seconds between the next mesg07:34
henryweismann[    6.511366] hub 4-1.4.4:1.0: 4 ports detected [   11.466049] init: plymouth-upstart-bridge main process (286) terminated with status 107:35
henryweismannand07:35
henryweismann[   97.746201] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) [  166.944527] SyncThread[4940]: segfault at 4 ip 00007f3310e7bd80 sp 00007f330588c5b8 error 6 in libdbus-1.so.3.7.6[7f3310e58000+44000]07:35
henryweismann[   68.035387] init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (2281) terminated with status 1 [   76.003561] type=1400 audit(1434092493.031:79): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" pid=4045 comm="apparmor_parser" [   76.003568] type=1400 audit(1434092493.031:80): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/cupsd" pid=4045 comm="07:35
henryweismannsorry i should have pastbin that07:35
harishkrupowhen you boot your system and as soon as the splash screen comes press the up arrow on the keyboard it will show the services which are being started you can know which service is taking long time07:35
henryweismannok so thats better then dmesg?07:36
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: yeah F1 verbose boot07:36
henryweismanni added verbose boot07:36
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: quiet splash off?07:36
henryweismannyes07:36
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: so where does it hang?07:36
henryweismannwell the same points in dmesg, but for the services i did not notice any long hangs, but i cant see after the loggin comes up, and i think the big hand is during loggin07:37
Frantiquehello all07:37
henryweismannis there a log?07:38
henryweismannor no seconds on services07:38
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: there is a lightdm log07:38
Frantiquedoes anyone knows why the reviewing of commercial softwares (updating to newer versions) is so slow?07:39
lotuspsychjeFrantique: of wich package are we speaking?07:40
henryweismannhttp://termbin.com/fcs707:40
henryweismannhttp://termbin.com/fcs7 (lightdm.log)07:41
Frantiquelotuspsychje: about desktop apps published through developer.ubuntu.com07:42
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lotuspsychjeFrantique: maybe a question for #ubuntu-devel?07:42
Frantiqueouch, wrong channel, thanks ;)07:42
zzzdebhello, anyone can give me some directions in creating a deb package with sleep time at install?07:43
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: its going wrong at the end of the log: [+285.11s] DEBUG: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1000 changed07:43
lotuspsychje!deb | zzzdeb07:43
ubottuzzzdeb: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.07:43
zzzdebi know how to install a deb file, i want to create one that makes a sleep at install time07:44
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: did you try creating a new user?07:44
zzzdebso let`s say install time will take 60 seconds longer07:44
lotuspsychjezzzdeb: a delay?07:45
henryweismanni vaguely remember creating a new user for some reason07:45
zzzdeblotuspsychje: yes07:45
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: try create a new user and login from there, see if it goes faster07:45
henryweismannlol how do i create a new user?07:45
henryweismanncan i delete this user later?07:46
lotuspsychjehenryweismann: sure07:46
henryweismanni see user accounts07:46
lotuspsychjezzzdeb: dont know mate, ask in #ubuntu-devel perhaps?07:46
zzzdebok, thanks07:47
henryweismannbrb07:48
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k1l_!away | bastiben_away08:00
ubottubastiben_away: Please do not use noisy away messages and nicks in Ubuntu channels. It is annoying and unnecessary. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»08:00
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AliGeyikDotComHi there08:01
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AliGeyikDotComI have 169G free at my /home but I can not create a .qcow2 image over 24G, virt-manager says I only have 24G available space, can anybody help me?08:02
k1l_AliGeyikDotCom: is that a virtual system?08:03
AliGeyikDotComkvm on my notebook08:03
mikubuntuanybody have any experience or luck installing ubuntu touch to a tablet? i have a vodafone smarttab 7" (SRF77) would like to know if its possible.08:11
bazhangmikubuntu, #ubuntu-touch for that08:12
mikubuntubazhang: cool08:12
KettleWorkI have some files where the timestamp is messed up - it's year 60056! I can touch these files to fix the problem. These files may appear in a folder but I have files there I do not want to touch as their dates are correct. Is there any way to find only these files where the date are messed up?08:25
EriC^^KettleWork: man find08:26
EriC^^KettleWork: then find ......... -exec touch '{}' \;08:27
EriC^^KettleWork: check which options you can use to get those files with find08:29
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KettleWorkEriC^^, thanks, so -exec touch '{}' \; means "touch %file%" on all found files?08:37
EriC^^yes08:37
EriC^^KettleWork: test without the -exec first08:37
pyioshow do I use boost.python3 in ubuntu ?08:40
vladoskihello guys, how can I know my GTK version?08:42
leetkinghello, i want to know what is meaning that 'LIST_POSTION1' and 'LIST_POSITION2' from linux kernel file 'list.h'08:46
useredhey guys anyone here?08:47
useredim having some trouble booting08:47
useredso windows 7 wont let me load properly after i changed my motherboard08:48
useredany ideas?08:48
EriC^^usered: does ubuntu boot?08:48
useredyes08:48
useredi can get that working08:49
EriC^^usered: type sudo update-grub08:49
useredi dont have to do a windows repair iso?08:49
useredive tried the iso like 4 times and it doesnt work08:49
useredand ive updated the grub in this tux thing08:50
ryan_I thought changing the motherboard voided the licence.08:52
emh_I have random keyboard input lag (usb keyboard), sometimes keypressed or keyreleaseeeeeeeeeeeee doesn't get registered. I have no idea where to start searching to fix this...08:52
es_hi all, anyone knows how to enable ssh access to user created with the --system flag? ssh deny it even if I've added my client pub key to the authorized_keys . user was created with the --shell and --home option as wel08:53
EriC^^es_: what's the permissions of the file ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ?08:54
es_EriC^^: rw r r08:55
Unhammershould be rw - -08:55
Unhammeralso the ~/.ssh dir should be rwx - -08:55
Unhammer70008:55
es_ok thanks trying now08:55
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ReZasalam, i would like to install my usb modem huawei smartax MT810 on ubuntu 15.04 i am using it on mac..please help.?08:59
zertyuhi there08:59
ReZavpi 8 vci 3508:59
ReZai am living Madagascar island08:59
ReZahi zertyu08:59
ReZai speak french malagasy english gujrati09:00
ReZaand little bit arabic09:00
ReZa:-)09:00
zertyujust shutup09:01
zertyuyour mouth smelling bad09:01
zertyu:)09:01
editionthe kubuntu channel seems inactive, and I cannot currently find a solution to a problem.09:03
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es_EriC^^: Unhammer  permission are now set correctly but still ask for password... Maybe you know how to change back that system user to be a normal user. I just need a simple way to enable ssh access in order to use git09:03
EriC^^es_: is there an empty line in the authorized_keys file?09:03
EriC^^es_: you can use ssh -vvv to debug the problem09:04
es_EriC^^: nope it terminates with the key line no carriage return09:04
Guest92371quit09:05
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Zeurtbonjour, es-ce qu'il est possible de modifier le type de hash utilisé lors d'une identification ? j'aimerai utiliser crypt09:07
Zeurtwrong chat ...09:08
es_EriC^^: can I pm you? I can't find what's wrong and why is failing back to password authoriztion and deny even that09:08
Unhammeres_ what did ssh -vvv tell you?09:09
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es_Unhammer: EriC^^  http://www.pasteall.org/5892109:10
EriC^^es_: it's better to talk here as somebody else can pitch in too09:11
Lotharioi cannot remove a directory as root, i get permission denied09:11
Lotharioor operation not permitted09:11
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Lothariorm: cannot remove ‘home.bad/admin/conf/mail’: Permission denied09:11
Lotharioany idea what is wrong/09:12
Lothariothe permissions are 77709:12
Lotharioi did a chmod -R 777 on /home.bad09:12
EriC^^Lothario: can you type cd home.bad/amid/conf ?09:12
EriC^^Lothario: ah, as root09:12
es_Lothario: did you use rm -rf dir?09:13
EriC^^missed that09:13
Lothario./  ../09:13
Lothariodb1:/home.bad/admin/conf/dns# pwd09:13
Lothario/home.bad/admin/conf/dns09:13
Lotharioi can enter the directory09:13
Lotharioi just cannot create, rename, or remove09:13
ReZaAnd if Allah had destroyed men for their iniquity, He would not leave on the earth a single creature, but He respites them till an appointed time; so when their doom will come they shall not be able to delay (it) an hour nor can they bring (it) on (before its time).09:13
EriC^^Lothario: try lsattr /path/to/file09:13
Lothariothere re no files09:13
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Lotharioonly 3 empty directories09:14
EriC^^lsattr09:14
Lothariodb1:/home.bad/admin/conf/dns# lsattr /home.bad09:14
Lothario-------------e-- /home.bad/admin09:14
EriC^^do it on mail09:14
Unhammeres_,  debug3: Could not load "/home/es/.ssh/id_rsa" as a RSA1 public key09:14
Lothariodb1:/home.bad/admin/conf/dns# lsattr /home.bad/admin/conf/mail09:14
Lothariodb1:/home.bad/admin/conf/dns#09:14
Lotharionothing09:14
k1l_KaLiF: leave that religious statements out of #ubuntu please09:15
leetkinghello, what is meaning that two macro 'LIST_POSITION1' and 'LIST_POSITION2' in kernel? why don't use NULL?09:15
EriC^^Lothario: what does stat /path/to/file say? use stat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 999909:16
Lothariothere are no files, only 3 empty directories09:16
es_Unhammer: weird it's there (client side) and my other regular account on that same server works so I don't know what's wrong...09:17
Lothariohttp://termbin.com/d0e909:17
Lothario04:17 < Lothario> http://termbin.com/d0e909:17
Lothariohttp://termbin.com/d0e909:18
Lothariooops09:18
Unhammeres_,  you can pubkey ssh into other machines right?09:18
Lotharionever seen this before, must be a way to remove /home.bad09:19
es_Unhammer: yeah my other regular account works correctly09:19
Unhammerso you can ssh into another account on that machine?09:20
es_Unhammer: ciao was created with the system flag and I can login09:20
es_can't*09:20
es_Unhammer: sure09:21
es_my other accaount works with pubkeys regulary09:21
huwenfengdear friends: any one could give answer to this question?09:21
huwenfenghttp://serverfault.com/questions/169295/kickstarting-an-ubuntu-server-10-04-installation-dhcp-fails09:21
huwenfengin pxe installation, if the dhcp failed for some reason, like tempority network congestion, it will prompt the Configure TCP/IP screen. How can I prevent this screen from showing up? just let the system keep trying to dhcp to get the address?09:21
Lotharioanybody have any ideas?09:22
Unhammerwhat happens if you log in as ciao@vita, then mv ~ciao/.ssh ~ciao/.ssh.backup; sudo cp -r ~es/.ssh ~ciao/.ssh; sudo chown -R ciao:ciao ~/.ssh09:23
Unhammer?09:23
cfhowlett!server | huwenfeng perhaps the server channel knows09:23
ubottuhuwenfeng perhaps the server channel knows: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server09:23
llutzLothario: that's a vserver using vesta control panel?09:24
Lotharioaws09:25
Lotharioi dont use cpanal09:25
OerHekshuwenfeng, 10.04 is EOL, dead. use a supported version, like 12.04 or better 14.04 lts09:26
OerHeks!10.0409:27
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support ended on April 30 2015. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.09:27
Lotharioi hate mir09:27
OerHeksLothario, nice, but there is no mir standard in ubuntu09:27
KettleWorkHow can I touch a file hundreds of years into the future?09:27
es_Unhammer: can't login as 'ciao', but anyway I got what you are saying. I've recreated with ssh-keygen as ciao user a new key pair and .ssh dir got created. authorized keys file got copied from the working account and I run chown snd checked permission... I don't know but probably the fact that was created with the system flag has other not obvious implication09:27
TJ-KettleWork: You can't09:28
es_Unhammer: maybe you know how to revert it to be a normal user?09:28
KettleWorkTJ-, can I set the modified date to the future in any other way? I will be dealing with files that I later can find looking for modified time of +10000 years, but I have no example files to verify my script on09:29
TJ-KettleWork: The current unix time value will wrap in around 2038 I seem to recall; there's an effort to increase the number of bits used to extend it09:29
Lotharioso can anyone help me remove /home.bad?09:29
TJ-Lothario: the file-system is read/write? "/home/" is writeable by the user?09:30
Unhammeres_,  I don't, although from "man useradd" I don't see the difference apart from it having a low UID/GID, no aging and that you have to use -m to create a home (which i suppose you  must have :)09:30
Lotharioyes09:31
Lotharioi did a chmod 777 /home.bad09:31
Lothariochown -R root.root09:31
Lotharioas root, it will not remove09:31
Unhammeres_,  you can of course change uid/gid with usermod but it'd be _really_ odd if that had an effect09:32
TJ-Lothario: I misread the path, so let me re-ask: Is "/"  writeable by the user?09:32
Lotharioyes09:32
Lothariodb1:/home.bad/admin/conf# cd /09:32
Lothariodb1:/# touch hi09:32
Lothariodb1:/#09:32
Unhammer ~ciao  is readable to ssh, right? (not sure how that works with encrypted homes etc)09:33
Unhammer*to sshd09:33
Lothariormdb1:/# rm -rf home.bad09:33
Lothariorm: cannot remove ‘home.bad/admin/conf/mail’: Permission denied09:33
ImJunemy mousepad was working again last night... sigh09:33
ImJuneI may give up09:33
Lothariomail is a directory with perms 777 owner root09:33
KettleWorkTJ-, I managed to touch it into the future! Like so: touch -d "$(date -r messages.txt) + 1000 years" messages.txt09:33
TJ-Lothario: but what about "/home.bad/admin/conf" ?09:34
ImJunethis is not mystery hardware its an intel controller I dunno why they can't get this stable09:34
Lothariosame09:34
Lotharioall owned by root09:34
Lotharioperms 77709:34
ImJunemost popular end user linux distro out there yet this does not work09:34
ImJunepft09:34
TJ-KettleWork: but the datestamp will wrap around at 2038 and so reading it won't give the value you expect it to09:34
KettleWorkTJ-, statting the file gives me the year 3220 at the moment. The important thing is that the file is messed up datewise and that I later find it with find . -newermt "100 years"09:35
Lothariocant rename any of the dirs, TJ-09:35
Lothariobut i can rename or move /home.bad09:35
alias_neoHi everyone09:35
TJ-Lothario: can you show us :pastebinit <(find /home.bad -ls)"09:35
LotharioTJ http://termbin.com/qn4c09:36
EriC^^Lothario: does touch /home.bad/something work?09:37
alias_neoI@m having an issue with my PCIe NIC not coming up early enough to be detected by libvirt when its starting my VMs, is there someplace or somehow I can modify the load order to get it to come up earlier? My two onboard nics come up just fine and early enough09:38
Lotharionot in the directories that i can't remove09:38
TJ-Lothario: what release of Ubuntu is it on?09:38
EriC^^try to lsattr those dirs09:38
Lothariowait, yes i can create files in those dirs09:38
Lothariolsattr returns nothing09:39
mikubuntuTJ-: good morning. (don't worry -- no technical problems) .. lol09:40
Lothariowhat should i chattr them to?09:40
TJ-Lothario: try: "strace -e trace=file rm /home.bad/admin/conf/mail" and check the messages immediately before the access denied result09:40
Lotharioit says EACCESS Permission denied09:41
Lothario: Permission denied09:42
Lotharionewfstatat(4, "web", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0777, st_size=4096, ...}, AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW) = 009:42
TJ-Lothario: You have confirmed that no process has a file handle open for "/home.bad/admin/conf/mail/" ?09:42
Lotharioopenat(4, "web", O_RDONLY|O_NOCTTY|O_NONBLOCK|O_DIRECTORY|O_NOFOLLOW) = 309:42
Lotharionope09:42
Lotharioi renamed the directory09:42
Lotharioand rebooted09:42
Lothariocan i use e2fs09:44
Lotharioto remove it?09:44
es_Unhammer: mmm I think it depends on some settings on my sshd config... I'm investigating . I'm now able to get it typing the password and using the AllowUsers directive but it shoulnd't be necessary. I don't understand looks more like a bug then a feature09:44
TJ-Lothario: Try "ls -l /proc/{1..9}*/fd/ | grep 'home\.bad'09:44
maniraji09:45
Lotharioit wouldnt match 1..909:45
manirajHello09:45
Lothariook it did with bash09:46
Lotharioroot@db1:/home.bad/admin# ls -l /proc/{1..9}*/fd/ | grep 'home\.bad'09:46
Lotharioroot@db1:/home.bad/admin#09:46
BluesKajHey folks09:46
Lotharionothin09:46
manirajhw r u09:46
Lothariodoesnt match home either09:46
TJ-Lothario: what release is that? what shell are you using?09:46
Lotharioubuntu 14.10, i switched to bash09:46
TJ-Lothario: OK, so no process has a handle to anything in /home.bad/ ... that's good to know09:47
Lotharioer, 14.0409:47
Lothariocorrect, nothing has it open09:47
TJ-Lothario: right, so the only things it can be are extended ACLs09:47
Lotharioso its an ACL09:47
TJ-Lothario: You've done "facl /home.bad/admin/conf/mail"  ?09:48
Lothariodb1:/# lsattr home.bad09:48
Lothario-------------e-- home.bad/admin09:48
EriC^^Lothario: try getfacl home.bad/admin/conf/mail09:49
Lotharioi dont have facl instaelled09:49
Lothariouser::rwx09:49
Lothariogroup::rwx09:49
Lotharioother::rwx09:49
TJ-Lothario: The problem is more like to be in the directory parent that contains "mail" since that is where the "mail" entry has to be deleted from09:50
philluminatiI can't get this bash statement to work: echo -e "this!\nis!\nawesome!"09:50
philluminatiI either get "event not found" errors from the exclamation points, or I get \! in the output09:50
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TJ-philluminati: escape the !09:50
TJ-philluminati: otherwise the shell will evaluate the ! itself09:51
LotharioTJ: can i use e2fsprogs to remove it?09:51
philluminatiTJ: If I escape it.. the escaped character appears in the output09:51
TJ-philluminati: you're probably using the shell's built-in echo, not /bin/echo09:51
philluminatiahhh...09:52
philluminatiTJ-: still doesn't work: http://pastebin.com/Ut7zDU8f09:52
TJ-Lothario: that's a package... I'm not aware of a tool in that package other than the *attr tools that will help09:53
llutzphilluminati: echo -e "this"'!'"\nsucks"'!'"\n"09:53
Lothariohmm09:54
philluminatiX='!' /bin/echo -e "this${X}\nis${X}\nawesome${X}"   #also works09:54
Lotharioit all happened when i untarred a weird package09:54
EriC^^philluminati: why don't you use printf ?09:54
philluminatithanks llutz09:55
Lotharioui give p09:55
llutzphilluminati: have fun counting the quotes :)09:55
Lotharioi dont know what else to do to remove a directory09:55
EriC^^printf "this!\nis\nawesome\n"09:55
TJ-philluminati: or echo -e "this! \nis! \nawesome!"09:55
EriC^^nevermind09:55
philluminatiDon't worry guys.. I will make do with llutz "'"'"' solution09:56
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TJ-philluminati: the cause is that ! is interpreted by the shell as a history expansion command09:58
philluminatiI get that09:58
philluminatiI was just unsure of why escaping it like \! leaked into the output09:58
philluminatipotentially evaluated first09:59
TJ-philluminati: I don't know, but the man page says it will pass through the literal \ prefix :s09:59
EriC^^philluminati: hey this works echo -e 'this!\nis'09:59
philluminatiinteresting, I thought cause the \n not to be interpreted, but it does10:00
Akljhello,world10:01
EriC^^philluminati: i guess cause -e tells echo to interpret them, but the ' tells bash to lay off10:01
TJ-philluminati: any reason you have to surround with double-quotes?10:01
philluminatiTJ-: no10:01
philluminatiI've rewritten it now and happy with it. thanks10:02
amitprakashHi, i have a partition /dev/xvdf1 mounted at /var/log/uwsgi and at /home/ubuntu/logs .. tar is running on  /home/ubuntu/logs/logfile. When I try to unmount /var/log/uwsgi however, I get a device busy error10:15
amitprakashHow can I unmount the partition only from one location?10:15
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amitprakashokay, fixed that using umount -l10:23
amitprakashHow do I debug a failed init.d service10:23
amitprakashuwsgi in this case, There are no logfiles in /var/log/uwsgi/10:23
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amitprakashfixed that too, thanks10:27
rturWhat could be the problem if os-prober detects Win7 but update-grub doesn't ? Is there a "enable-os-prober" variable somewhere ?10:31
kokutHello, anyone knows if clamv is really necessary? is there a way to check if it has ever found anything in the past year i've had it installed in my system?10:32
EriC^^rtur: type ls -l /etc/grub.d/*os-prober10:32
rturEriC^^: It's there, but I noticed that I currently have legacy grub, am now replacing it with 2. Maybe legacy grub can't use the os-prober script ?10:34
EriC^^is the script +x ?10:34
EriC^^rtur: maybe10:35
rturEriC^^: Yes. With grub2 it works. Thank you.10:35
EriC^^no problem10:35
HannofcartI have a 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit running on Lenovo Y510P. My computer was not hibernating on battery critical (even though my battery applet does indeed give me a notification about battery critical at 3%). I then tried using laptop-mode-utils as shown here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/195671/wont-hibernate-when-battery-critical to get it to hibernate at 4% battery. That doesn't work either. Anyone know what could be wrong?10:36
astroboydo you have swap partition?10:40
chotaz`wWhy does everytime I opena  .deb file from within Chrome or any other web browser, a new isntance of google chrome pops up and re-downloads the file, whereas if I open the .deb from the file manager, it opens the software manager like it should?10:41
Hannofcartastroboy: were you asking me that? If so, the answer is no. So that's why! Thanks!10:43
astroboyyes i asked you :)10:43
Hannofcart:) Thanks10:43
k1lHannofcart: you need swap for hibernation (suspend to disk) since the ram needs to be copied somewhere10:43
HannofcartThat makes sense.10:43
Hannofcartk11: yes I understand10:44
Hannofcartthanks10:44
k1land with battery critical state it wants to hibernate, since it cant keep the ram alive since there might be no power left.10:44
astroboyHannofcart, because we have same problem :'D10:44
k1lHannofcart: swap-file might work too if you dont want/have a swap partition10:45
Hannofcartk1l: Thanks a ton. I was just about to ask you about that.10:45
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xyzzy__hi all10:54
MacroManSo after several hours playing with xrandr I finally have my quad monitor setup as intended. Phew.10:58
ablest1980hello is ubuntu 15 out?11:00
bagbiter15.04 or 15.10?11:01
ablest1980any11:01
k1l!releases | ablest198011:01
ubottuablest1980: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases11:01
bagbiter15.04 has been out for a while now.  15.10 is available on daily builds but wont be released until later october/november11:02
k1lablest1980: you are often enough in here to know the release numbering and the release schedule11:02
ablest1980ok11:02
ablest1980ty and sorry11:02
ImJuneSo I have read so much about this problem now with my mousepad on my laptop this is a kernel issue it seems. I guess it is time to delete ubuntu :(11:03
OerHekssystemd-analyze blame11:08
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juniorsahi - I've just finished installing my 14.04 LTS server raid1 2 3TB disks the install went without errors but it won't boot here is output of bootinfoscript - can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11701433/11:18
popeyjuniorsa: this may help. it explains why your array is showing up as /dev/md127 http://askubuntu.com/questions/209702/why-is-my-raid-dev-md1-showing-up-as-dev-md126-is-mdadm-conf-being-ignored11:26
juniorsapopey:  thanks11:29
juniorsaI'll read :)11:29
cotalinuxhello, I have ubuntu 14.04 LTS with Unity. I've recently tried mate-desktop running alongside Unity and now I would like to remove Unity and use Mate instead. Is it safe to remove all unity packages from my system?11:42
yorwosu might remove/break some unity dependent programs but i believe the chances are minimal , even so u will easily find a replacement11:44
yorwosbut if u dont have a hdd space problem u could just have both11:44
cotalinuxyeah I have 120G ssd and space is the main issue11:45
cotalinuxaltough I don't think unity takes more than 1GB space11:45
newUbun_usr_nvis it possible to increase size of my current swap file?!11:46
priyanshuhi11:47
cotalinuxmeh I think I'll do a backup and just install ubuntu mate11:48
newUbun_usr_nv?11:50
cotalinuxnewUbun_usr_nv: maybe this helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/367331/how-to-increase-the-size-of-linux-swap-partition11:51
esc_typenewUbun_usr_nv: yeah it's possible, you can just make new swap file and swapon it11:52
newUbun_usr_nvthank u11:52
newUbun_usr_nv@esc_type u mean create a new bigger swap file n ignore the first?11:53
newUbun_usr_nvy didn't i think of that?11:53
esc_typehttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Swap#Swap_file11:55
newUbun_usr_nvthanx alot11:58
Mahalohola... i got slow booting. just installed ubuntu server 15 on my i5 pc. whats goin on ?12:14
wsdjeghello everybody12:14
Mahalosome text said " journal failed "12:14
wsdjegis there anyone use ubuntu 15/0412:15
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Mahalome... just installed it.12:15
wangshidongit's very cool12:16
wangshidonghow about the UEFI12:16
OerHeks!uefi12:19
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI12:19
juniorsadid I do something wrong during the install - is there a proper way to install my system? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11701433/    -- maybe I can fix it but I would prefer finding a proper procedure and knowing what I did wrong - if anyone knows it would be great 14.04 LTS 2 3TB drives - raid 1 - I did gpt partitions, bios boot parition and then created a swap and then my / - no errors??12:19
BluesKajjuniorsa, how large is / ?12:24
juniorsapopey: this is very helpful but when I try and stop md126 it says that "mdadm: cannot get exclusive access to /dev/md126" nokidding as I have it mounted lol - do I need a livecd to do this?12:25
juniorsaBluesKaj: 3TB12:25
BluesKajediting partitions on HDDs is best done from live media , the only way unless you're ssh'd from another pc or some such , juniorsa12:27
juniorsaBluesKaj: right -I'll do that - There must be a simple way that can be done using the ubuntu installer12:29
BluesKaj3TB for / is pretty big and a /home partition would be a good to have12:29
juniorsaBluesKaj: ok I could do that but I don't think it would change the problem - it seems like the installer is doing something bad and I end up with the md12712:30
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BluesKajjuniorsa, yeah I don't recognize the error , i usually prepartition with gparted first then just use manual partitioning in the installer/ubiquity and set the mount points for / and /home, it's a simpler method12:32
juniorsaBluesKaj: seems like a waste of an installer :) I think it should work just using the installer don't you?12:33
egorощшт12:33
BluesKajjuniorsa, but that's my personal reference12:33
n5721exit12:33
BluesKajno i don't like an installer doing my partitioning . i prefer to do it with gparted which is simple and straight forward IMO12:34
juniorsaok I've booted with knoppix and I am at a # I don't know how to make changes to mdadm :(12:36
gagalicioushow can i tell12:37
gagaliciousif nfs is working? i can telnet 2049 and 111 but i cant mount it12:38
gagaliciousi'm using ubuntu server as the nfs server and a centos client as the nfs client12:38
BluesKajjuniorsa, dunno much about raid , I just use on HDD for the OS , the others are media and data drives12:40
BluesKajone HDD12:40
gagaliciouswhat's the log file for ubuntu's nfs?12:40
IP92when installing ubuntu from USB, is there anything specific I should know when installing other than just booting from the USB and proceeding with the normal installation?12:43
LabanNot really, it will behave same as if it was from Cd.12:44
BluesKaj!mdadm | juniorsa12:45
BluesKaj!info mdadm | juniorsa12:45
ubottujuniorsa: mdadm (source: mdadm): tool to administer Linux MD arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 3.3-2ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 386 kB, installed size 1293 kB12:45
juniorsaBluesKaj: I know I'm reading but I can't figure it out12:45
juniorsaI can mount my md but it won't boot12:46
BluesKajjuniorsa, sorry, that's not my strong suit for sure12:46
juniorsaI wonder if anyone else here can help with a 14.04 LTS system that was just installed and won't boot - mdadm issue I think12:48
ioriajuniorsa, you installed the Grub onto the software RAID Partition ?12:49
juniorsaioria: I did the install and grub was installed on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb from what I remember that the command showed12:50
ioriajuniorsa, maybe this could help, don't know : http://askubuntu.com/questions/518532/problems-booting-from-software-raid12:51
ioriajuniorsa, go straight to the answer12:51
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juniorsaioria: guess it's impossible12:52
ioriajuniorsa, i can't argue because i don't use raid, sorry12:53
juniorsaioria: thanks anyways - I'll be patient maybe someone else knows12:54
ioriajuniorsa, sure12:54
msa1hi eveybody12:55
BluesKajjuniorsa, why do you need such a large space for your OS ?12:55
msa1how to change Terminal Title , for everytime ??12:55
msa1not one time12:55
juniorsaBluesKaj: do you think the problem is related to the size of the hard disk? - this sytem will be used to store backups and I can only put 2 drives in this server it's a 1u12:56
juniorsaioria: actually from the script bootinfoscript - it shows sda1 and sdb1 have the grub2's core.img installed so they are not raid partitions12:57
ioriajuniorsa, let me retrieve it12:57
pbxi broke notify-osd and don't know how to fix it.12:58
pbxah, looks like this is my problem. http://askubuntu.com/questions/371020/notify-osd-notifications-appear-unthemed-in-top-left-corner12:58
juniorsait looks like in the blkid output section something is mixing up /dev/md/rob:0 -- should be /dev/md0 instead it is /dev/md126 not sure how to fix that - anyone?12:59
esc_typemsa1: change .desktop file that runs terminal13:02
nintendoman64Hey, does anyone own a K95 RGB?13:02
nintendoman64was wondering if the LED problem that plagued the non-RGB series was present in the RGB ones.13:03
Hannofcartk1l: Hi, I pinged before asking about the problem regarding hibernate not working on critical battery. You had pointed out before that it was because there was not swap allocated. I have now allocated swap (and I know its working fine because after reboot on doing swapon -s I get details of swap as expected. Also, system monitor also tells me swap is now available: http://ibin.co/24yzZk075RmQ) ... and yet, no hibernate to disk kicks in. Any further id13:05
Hannofcarteas?13:05
huma70#ubuntuusers13:19
huma70#ubuntu13:19
huma70hallo13:19
huma70ich habe mal eine frage zu meiner Grafikkarte...13:20
MarcGuayHi folks.  I'm looking for a command line tool to search a website for malware, any suggestions?  ClamAV didn't find it.13:20
bstarekMarcGuay, search website for malware? please explain13:21
bstarekhuma70, ask you question13:21
bstarekhuma70, ask your question13:22
esc_typeHannofcart: there are some tweaks if you are hybernating into file13:22
huma70ich habe auf einer zweiten Partition ubuntu neu installiert. komme eigentlich von Windows. allerdings wird mir in ubuntu nicht meine Grafikkarte (nvidia 960) finden oder so. Alles ist sehr langsam.13:22
MarcGuaybstarek: I have a website directory which contains some htm files with injected malware.13:22
esc_typetry to read about them13:22
pbxMarcGuay, this isn't an ubuntu question13:22
Hannofcartesc_type: ok. googling now. thanks.13:22
MarcGuaypbx: I'm looking for a command line tool for Ubuntu.  Can you suggest another channel?13:22
pbx!de|huma7013:22
ubottuhuma70: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!13:22
IsaiHi, I was installing ubuntu-desktop when I got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11701927/13:22
bstarekMarcGuay, how do you know they are infected?13:22
huma70danke13:23
bstarekMarcGuay, you cannot infect html files13:23
huma70#ubuntu-de13:23
MarcGuaybstarek: The host reported it and provided an example and googling the code reveals that it's a common malware.13:23
MarcGuaybstarek: It's javascript.13:23
pbxMarcGuay, try #web for advice on this13:23
MarcGuaypbx: Thanks13:23
bstarekMarcGuay, could post a link to the malware explainantion?13:24
bstarekMarcGuay, name of the malware, date of creation....13:24
IsaiAnyone?13:27
DeadwingCan anyone point the way to running a daemon as root on startup under systemd/15.04?13:28
MarcGuaybstarek: It's very similar to the code in the first textarea here http://ninjafirewall.com/malware/index.php?threat=2013-06-18.0113:28
BluesKajDeadwing, you could try sudo systemctl enable nameofdaemon13:29
Sarge123Does a Ubuntu user believe that telepathy is possible and having experiences with telepathy?13:29
pbxIsai, i see some discussion of the problem here but no clear fix yet. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/144765413:29
ubottuUbuntu bug 1447654 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "installing policykit-1 hangs under systemd" [Medium,Confirmed]13:29
Isai:/13:30
bstarekMarcGuay, it is XSS (cross site scripting) vulnerability13:30
DeadwingBluesKaj: Thanks.  I'll look into it now.13:30
esc_typeDeadwing: write .service file and make systemctl enable myservice.service or just systemctl enable if service is alredy written13:30
bstarekMarcGuay, you need to fix your infected "php" file13:30
bstarekMarcGuay, you have an unsanitized variable in your code allowing the malware to inject code13:31
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bstarekMarcGuay, if you are wordpress, please update all your plugins.13:32
crypto_guyhi, the kernel update in U14.04 can cause network problem?13:32
crypto_guy kernel update >> apt-get upgrade13:33
DeadwingBlueKaj:  sudo systemctl enable vlmcsd gives 'invalid argument'.  Trying to get vlmcsd to start from /etc13:36
iepuppjhow to setup "use this connection only for resources on its network command line" using command line13:38
iepuppI mean which config file to use to set the above option?13:38
Deadwingesc_type:  Missed your reply, thanks as well13:40
aapsj #tkkrlab13:41
MagePsycho#ini_set('display_errors', 1); —> ini_set('display_errors', 1);13:42
MagePsychohow to remove # from the above string13:42
MagePsychousing sed command13:42
cedian_linuxI blocked myself on freenode accidentally by using tor, but I found out it was only on the tor ip's13:43
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cedian_linuxBut I'm now redownloading my ~/phablet/* files13:44
cedian_linuxwhat name has mariogrip now?13:47
kopelehi i got a strange problem with xsane and a network printer13:47
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kopelewhen i scan a file and attempt to save it every thing freeze13:48
Pici/36/7013:56
iepuppdoes Ubuntu NetworkManager ignores /etc/network/interfaces?13:58
kopeleno i don`t  think so13:58
kopelejust yesturday i have a issue with that :)13:58
iepuppok, then what does iface eth0 inet manual in /etc/network/interfaces means?13:59
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kopeleit`s a some kind of manual setup14:00
kopelebut there isn`t a static ip subnet and etc.14:01
BluesKajiepupp, no it overwrites  the interfaces file, unless you disable NM14:01
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BluesKajiepupp, this will explain the settings, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/14:05
iepuppOk , I am trying to configure an interface as auto eth3 iface eth3 inet manual14:06
iepuppup ip link set dev $IFACE up14:06
iepuppdown ip link set dev $IFACE down , do i need to disable the NM14:06
skinuxIf I install PhpMyAdmin via PPA, will that over-write the one installed via repo or would it be an additional installation?14:07
phunyguyskinux: that depends on what the ppa does, and there is no way of knowing that without the ppa14:08
BluesKajiepupp, only if you can't set them up in NM14:08
skinuxWell, the PPA looks old anyway: https://launchpad.net/~nijel/+archive/phpmyadmin14:08
erdeaHow do i configure linux for dual displays?14:13
lotuspsychje!xrandr | erdea14:13
ubottuerdea: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1214:13
erdeaI have hdmi an hdmi and dvi screen14:14
erdeaDoes it matter?14:14
erdeaI have one hdmi screen working (new) and my other screen is dvi (old)14:15
iepuppBluesKaj, one connection in Ubuntu NM uses an option 'Use this connection for resources on its network'. If I disable NM, How can i configure one interface in interfaces to use this routing option.14:15
lotuspsychjeerdea: normaly the output of the cables dont matter, just needs xrandr config to find second screen14:15
erdeawhen i am on the dvi screen the hdmi is disconnected and now i am using the new screen its has great resulution but the old screen with the dvi has shit resulution14:16
lotuspsychjeerdea: read the xrandr link i triggered you mate14:17
erdeaokay14:17
newmanhi team I am trying to install Meteor javascript framework using curl command. if i lose internet connect, can I give the same command and half download software will it continue from their or from the start?14:24
newmanI gave this command right now "curl https://install.meteor.com/ | sh14:26
newman" and it's downloading the packages now , if i lose the internet connection giving the same command will the download starts from beginning or from where the download broken/14:26
newmankindly help14:26
MCSHHi, I am getting a kernel panic on Ubuntu 15.04 can anyone help me?14:26
lotuspsychjeMCSH: what does the error say exactly?14:27
pbxnewman, try the -C option http://curl.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#How_do_I_tell_curl_to_resume_a_t14:27
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MCSHFatal exception in interupt14:28
newmanwhat you mean pbx14:28
newmancurl -C https://install.meteor.com/ | sh14:28
newman like this pbx14:28
MCSHAlthough the whole system freezes, I've seen this only when I was on tty1 when it freezes14:28
pbxnewman, http://curl.haxx.se/mail/archive-2010-10/0001.html14:29
iepupp_How do i configure auto eth3 iface eth3 inet manual14:29
iepupp_up ip link set dev $IFACE up14:29
iepupp_down ip link set dev $IFACE down using NetworkManager?14:29
pbxnewman, that script is only like 6K14:30
newmanbut it wasn't download completley14:30
newmaneach time14:30
pbxnewman, well then you have some other problem14:30
pbxcurl isn't going to fix a bad network connection newman . keep trying until you get the whole thing, then pipe it to sh or whatever14:31
newmanok14:31
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MCSHlotuspsychje Fatal Exception In Interrupt14:31
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artmshidei14:33
herrkinhwllo14:42
herrkinhello14:42
herrkinhas anybody had trouble with usb-modswitch?14:42
herrkinI have 2 modems that I see it opens 3 ports on dmesg but when I try to connect to them bash says they dont exist14:43
herrkinI had one of the modem working before, when I plugged the second one I dont know what happened, now none of them  work14:44
MCSHI'm getting Kernel Panic (Fatal Exception In Interrupt) about 30 seconds after I boot 15.04, can anyone help me?14:47
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ioriaMCSH, can you select another kernel from grub ?14:49
MCSHioria I don't have anyother kernel. after facing the problem I re installed everything and now I'm on a fresh install that doesn't work14:49
buzainpart14:50
ioriaMCSH, do you have exotic hardware ,  wifi network adapter in particular ?14:51
MCSHioria , I have Nvidia and Boradcam, both of which have previously caused problems for me14:51
newmanHi team I tried to install Lighttable following a link, but I'm getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/11702477/14:52
mosesso14:52
newmankindly help14:52
mosesanyone have nvidia drivers14:52
moseson ubuntu?14:52
ioriaMCSH, do you remember what broadcom ?14:53
newmananyone here14:54
MCSHioria, not exactly but I can look it up in wondows if I figure out how14:54
ioriaMCSH, are you dual boot ?14:54
MCSHioria, Broadcom BCM4352HMB 802.11ac 2x2 Wi-Fi Adapter14:55
MCSHioria, yes. Though that's not a problem I've had 15.04 for a while now, and before that 14.1014:55
MCSHnewman, have you tried this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/604331/libudev-so-1-not-found-when-trying-to-run-spotify14:57
moseswhich nvidia driver should I be using14:58
newmannot yet14:58
newmanwill try14:58
catcherAnyone having a decent experience with a linux native email client connected to an exchange server?14:58
mosesopen source?14:58
MCSHmoses, in a terminal run ubunut-drivers devices, it marks one of them as suggested, use that one14:59
newmanI'm getting this error MCSH http://paste.ubuntu.com/11702516/14:59
newmankindly help14:59
Picinewman: your error message is cutoff15:01
mosesi picked the reccomended one tyvm you sexy man15:01
newmanwhich one Pici15:01
Picinewman: "ln: failed t"15:01
ay92having problems with telnet15:01
MCSHmoses, yw15:02
ay92keep having connection refused error when connecting to massinternational.org15:02
Piciay92: What are you trying to accomplish?15:03
mosesnow that I have it installed how do i change the settings?15:03
newmankindly check Pici MCSH  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11702531/15:03
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ay92cend step of configuring postfix15:04
Piciay92: Are you specifying port 25?15:04
ay92Picyes15:05
jParktonugh postfix15:05
MCSHnewman it failed to installed the package, I'm sorry I have no clue15:05
newmanPici, any help15:05
Piciay92: telnet massinternational.org 25   works for me15:06
newmanI got ubuntu 14.0415:06
MCSHioria, any progress? would it help if I install another version of kernel?15:06
ioriaMCSH, sure, als another version of Ubuntu :-P15:07
ay92ubuntu server 15.04 lts15:07
ioriaMCSH, the erros suggest an hardware issue15:07
ioria*s15:07
MCSHioria I was wondering if moving back to Ubuntu 14.10 would cause any problem if I want to update later since it switched to systemd15:08
ay92wats de output15:08
Picinewman: Are you having trouble running lightable from the path it installs to?15:08
newmanyes15:08
Picinewman: What system architecture are you on? 32 or 64 bit?15:08
newmannot just their it's not even running from place I downloaded it15:08
MCSHioria hardware as in I have to change the hardware or just kernel failling to commiunicate with it?15:08
newman32 bit15:08
Picinewman: What do you mean by "its not there"?15:09
newmanI mean Download folder I extracted ..15:09
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ioriaMCSH, try with 14.10, then you can do-release-upgrade to 1515:09
MCSHioria , will do thanks15:09
newmanI actually got 64 system, but OS I installed was 32 bit ubuntu 14.04 Mate15:09
Picinewman: Okay, did you extract the contents of the tar.gz file?15:10
newmanyes15:10
Picinewman: To where?15:10
darthanubisnewman, if its not too late, I'd reinstall with the 64bit version of the OS. The days of 64bit caution have long been over.15:11
ltkwhy use 'LIST_POSITON1' or 'LIST_POSITION2', not 'NULL'?15:11
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darthanubisjust a Protip15:12
Picileetking: methinks you've mistaken this channel for another (this is #ubuntu)15:12
leetkingI don't know other channel.15:13
Picileetking: What are you looking for help with?15:14
leetkingabout two macro15:14
Picileetking: in what software?15:15
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leetkinglinux kernel file 'list.h', i feel wondring15:16
Picileetking: You'd have better luck asking in ##kernel15:18
leetkingPici: yesterday, i join in channel #kernelnewbies , but nobody repond me15:19
leetkingis the server irc.freenode.net?15:19
Picileetking: Yes.15:19
leetkingtks, i try again15:20
Mangled_PackagesI'm stuck in a loop where it won't let me remove a package that depends on another package - it says it removes the package but the broken stuff just keeps lingering around. can anyone help?15:23
Mangled_Packagesthings look like this http://i.imgur.com/PMTg71u.png15:24
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michaelanhvuhi15:26
jParktonwtf are you doin???15:26
darthanubisMangled_Packages, did you try apt-get -f install?15:26
jParktonit says right there "sudo -f install"15:26
jParktonnot sudo apt-get -f uninstall somestuff15:27
Mangled_Packagesthat doesn't work either15:27
darthanubisMangled_Packages, you didn't give the cmd properly15:27
tewardMangled_Packages: remove the other packages?15:27
eydaimonhow is Mir coming? Is it part of unbuntu yet?15:28
darthanubisit's "sudo apt-get -f install"15:28
darthanubiseydaimon, no15:28
eydaimondarthanubis: is there an eta or something?15:28
Mangled_Packagesdpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/weechat-core_0.4.2-3_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/weechat.mo', which is also in package weechat-devel-core 1.3-1~dev20150612 dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)15:28
darthanubiseydaimon, maybe 16.0415:28
eydaimonthanks15:29
darthanubisnp15:29
jParktonsudo apt-get purge weechat*15:29
Mangled_Packagesooh, PURGE. that souds lovely. . . . . and I thik it worked!15:31
Mangled_Packagesthank you so much15:31
Mangled_Packageseverything - remove, install, and the "repair" that ubuntu's GUI package manager offered to use, were all butting their heads against the same weird dependency crap15:31
jParktonMangled_Packages: that is because you were trying to uninstall weechat but the weechat developer module and I assume others you installed would not let you15:33
jParktonit takes time, you will get it15:33
Mangled_PackagesI am saving that "purge" command in a very honored place in my brain :)15:34
Mangled_Packagessometimes total destruction is the only way!15:34
jParktonyou should follow it up with apt-get autoremove15:38
jParktonthat will clean up most junk15:38
M_angledroger that15:39
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orionhttp://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2635-1/ <-- this is wrong!15:53
orion"USN-2635-1: Linux kernel (Utopic HWE) vulnerabilities" ... "A security issue affects these releases of Ubuntu and its derivatives: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS"15:53
orion14.04 == Trusty, not Utopic15:53
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timtimtimhey guys, was wondering if anyone had advice on a good out-of-the-box web server i could use for hosting and testing web projects in development15:55
mawelsHi everyone15:55
mawelsIs that flood?15:57
tgm4883timtimtim: apache?16:01
Fr3d3r1csalut16:02
mawelsHas anyone sucseed setting up vga passthroug in kvm?16:02
Fr3d3r1cj'aimerai pouvoir travailler sur un lien symbolique16:02
Fr3d3r1cmais je ne pense pas que ce soit possible16:02
tgm4883orion: that isn't wrong16:02
jaydemirhey I could use some help. I'm running xfce-desktop trusty and I tried to install UNetBootin. When I open it, I just get a blank interface. any idea why?16:02
compdocmawels, never needed it. You have two video cards in the host?16:03
tgm4883orion: it's a bug in the hardware enablement stack that was backported to 14.0416:03
tgm4883jaydemir: try opening it from a terminal and seeing if you get error messages16:03
mawelsCompdoc i do, i have a integrated intel hd 2000  and a dedicated hd785016:04
jaydemirhow would I do that?16:04
tgm4883jaydemir: open up a teminal and typr 'unetbootin' (which I'm assuming is the binary name16:04
compdocmawels, the video card you want to pass cannot be used by the host in any way. at least thats my understanding16:04
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mawelsOk but when i pass the dedicated vga, wich is not in use, my system hangs16:05
shomeIs anyone here familiar with shadowprotect ?16:07
jaydemirgetting a command not found16:07
mawelsI will try again may be i missed something16:07
meta-systemhi here16:07
meta-systemneed some help about installing vivid with debootstrap16:07
jaydemirwait I got it to work in the terminal. same thing. It asks for a password when it opens and doesnt load16:08
cybrNaut":": Keep a package at its current version. Unlike hold, this will not prevent future upgrades. <== what good is that?16:08
johnsmithtest16:09
meta-systemcybrNaut: prevent upgrade you don't want16:09
meta-systemlike when gimp change interface when 2.8 comming16:10
meta-systemprevent gtk/qt version changement16:10
meta-systemor gcc, etc...16:10
cybrNautmeta-system: are you saying it blocks the *next* upgrade only?16:10
meta-systemcybrNaut: "Keep a package at its current version"16:10
johnsmith#ubuntu-discuss16:10
meta-systemfor all next upgrade16:10
cybrNautmeta-system: the interesting bit is: "this will not prevent future upgrades."16:11
cybrNautit's a contradiction16:11
meta-systemcybrNaut: but you can have dependencies problems with other packages16:11
meta-systemsorry, effectively16:12
meta-systemcybrNaut: prevent upgrade package if you think next version is not enough stable for you16:12
meta-systemor if a dependencie is not enough stable16:13
cybrNautmeta-system: isn't it pointless to block the next version, but not the version after the next?16:13
cybrNautthe version after the next is likely to have the same changes as the next16:14
meta-systemcybrNaut: it seems16:14
meta-systemcybrNaut: for example, if you don't want rev version16:15
meta-systembut jump directly to next version16:15
xanguarev version?16:16
meta-systemrevised16:16
meta-systemfor example, actual linux git kernel 4.1-rc7 <<< rc7 is revision 716:17
meta-systemexample : gcc-4.9-20140406-0ubuntu1 of trusty repos16:19
meta-systemis 4.9 04/04/2014 revised version16:19
meta-system*0616:19
xangua!latest16:19
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.16:19
meta-systemexactly what I said...16:20
xanguaif you want to have the latest for all/any software all the time, maybe Ubuntu is not the distro for you16:21
kuba7447fedora16:24
cybrNautif i manually install a package that later becomes market "obsolete" in aptitude, what's the best way to keep it?16:29
cybrNautshould I put a hold on it?16:29
funktHello! I need some help with my dual monitor. Upon booting up my laptop this morning with connected monitor. Ubuntu has decided to remove any known configuration of my previous moitor in nvidia display settings and lock itself to a crappy low res which I cannot change. I have tried restoring, bios, terminal commands, xrandr, articles etc etc and I cannot seem to get anywhere has anyone here got any ideas on how I could fix this again?16:29
cybrNauttechnically, i do not intend to hold back the version16:29
IntsHey, I just installed ubuntu on another computer, did a complete new install, with deleting the old documents. now after booting I get invalid partition table16:33
afradinhello guys16:38
afradinhow are you ?16:38
afradinBOU16:38
cybrNautInts: not sure how that happened, if you tool the simple path of letting the installer partition your drive using a canned layout16:45
cybrNautInts: try reinstalling.. perhaps another distro, like Mint16:45
IntscybrNaut: I just had mint, thought I'd try ubuntu. But I found a fix. had to go to bios settings and set the boot sequence to UEFI instead of legacy boot16:50
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annoyingquestionhey guys i have a question16:54
annoyingquestionin the "apt-get update -qq" what does the -qq mean?16:54
meta-systemxangua: effectively, I principaly use funtoo16:54
acz32annoyingquestion: man apt-get16:55
angular_mike_annoyingquestion: `-qq` supresses logging output16:55
angular_mike_annoyingquestion: `-q` would also do that but to lesser extent16:56
angular_mike_annoyingquestion: you can learn more by reading `man apt-get`16:56
annoyingquestionthank you!16:56
lotuspsychjeangular_mike_: did you fix your issue from yeserday?16:57
angular_mike_lotuspsychje: which one?16:57
lotuspsychjeangular_mike_: not sure again :p16:57
angular_mike_lotuspsychje: the one where my desktop environment was being messed up and gnome-terminal uninstalled?16:57
lotuspsychjeangular_mike_: cant recall that116:58
angular_mike_lotuspsychje: reinstalling the gnome-terminal as well as ubuntu-desktop seems to fix it every time16:58
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lotuspsychjeangular_mike_: ok great16:58
angular_mike_by the way, #vbox people kinda scoffed at the notion of using ubuntu-specific version of virtualbox16:59
angular_mike_lotuspsychje: still not completely sure what causes it16:59
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linuxsonanyone help me with some info on how to run a script file automatically every time my pc starts up?17:08
lotuspsychje!cron | linuxson17:09
ubottulinuxson: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto17:09
linuxsonthanx lotus....will have a look17:10
narkmanhey guys. what if i preload a 1gb ram? is good or take damage?17:10
lotuspsychjenarkman: wanna install a new ram bank?17:11
narkmanyes!17:11
lotuspsychjenarkman: and your question is?17:11
narkmanis not that17:12
narkmanjust if i preload the low gb ram. is good or bat?17:12
narkmanbad*17:12
lotuspsychjenarkman: not sure if i understand you mate17:12
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narkmanwait i have bad engl17:12
narkmani feel you17:13
narkmando you know preload?17:13
narkman\17:13
lotuspsychjenarkman: the package preload?17:13
M_angled weechat-plugins : Depends: libperl5.14 (>= 5.14.2) but it is not installable                    Depends: libv8-3.8.9.20 but it is not installable17:13
lotuspsychje!info preload | narkman17:14
M_angledjust to doublecheck, I attempted to apt install those, but they are indeed not installable, heh17:14
ubottunarkman: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (vivid), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB17:14
narkmanfro more speed?17:14
narkmanfor*17:14
M_angledsuggestions welcome if anyone knows about libperl or libv8?17:14
lotuspsychjenarkman: you can install that safely17:14
narkmanok ty man17:15
lotuspsychjenarkman: doesnt matter if you have low or large ram17:15
narkmanok17:15
narkmanis just for a neetbook17:15
lotuspsychjenarkman: after reboot it will pre-load your packages to boost up a little17:15
narkmani have biger with 16gb ram17:15
lotuspsychjeM_angled: try apt-cache search packagename to check out whats avalaible for you17:16
ctjctjI'm having a problem with update-grub duplicating the contents of menu.lst.  Method: rm /boot/grub/menu.lst; update-grub -y; edit groot=(hd0);update-grub;  At the end I have the contents duplicated.  14.04lts17:16
trismM_angled: which ubuntu version is this?17:16
M_angled14.04 lte17:17
trismM_angled: what is: apt-cache policy weechat-plugins; because that is the wrong perl dep for 14.04 (I get libperl5.1817:17
M_angledweechat is an irc client I'm trying to set up. I did things wrong so I had to remove it, and I think an apt cleanup operation I did removed the "no longer necessary" perl, and maybe ruby too17:18
MCSHctjctj run sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and manually remove it17:19
ctjctjLooking MCSH, thanks.17:19
trismM_angled: I know what weechat is, I want to see the output of that command above in a pastebin, but I'm saying that is the wrong perl lib as a dep which is why I am curious, it should be libperl5.18 not libperl5.1417:19
M_angledohhh I see17:20
M_angledok17:20
MCSHCtjctj no problem, ask if you needed help with modifying config17:20
lotuspsychjeMCSH: you been able to solve your issue mate?17:21
ctjctjThere is no such file.  I hope you don't mind if I use "emacs -nw" instead of gedit.17:21
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MCSHlotuspsychje I installed 14.04 and I'm updating it to see if it works :-) no problem so far on 14.0417:22
lotuspsychje!yay | MCSH17:22
ubottuMCSH: Glad you made it! :-)17:22
AzjoHi, im doing a dd image from ubuntu live to my windows smb share. however it is only going at 2.0mb? can i speed this up?17:22
Azjonvm.. it decided to speed up now17:22
MCSHThanks :-)17:23
ctjctjMCSH, that doesn't seem to be helpful.  man update-grub says run it once, edit the options in menu.lst, the run update-grub again.17:23
M_angledtrism: http://pastebin.com/CmX3zPap17:23
M_angledI'm on x86 fwiw17:23
MCSHctjctj sorry in that case, editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg would be the same though17:24
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MCSHctjctj are you using legacy grub or grub2?17:24
ctjctjLet me check with apt-cache17:25
MCSHctjctj menu.lst is for legacy I believe17:25
trismM_angled: that's fine, I see you added an external weechat repo, but it seems you added the wrong one, if you don't want to use the repo version it seems like the right repo line is: deb https://weechat.org/ubuntu trusty main17:25
yankGreetings17:25
lotuspsychjectjctj: what are you trying to edit exactly?17:25
lotuspsychjeyank: hello, how can we help you17:26
ctjctjMCSH, Version: 0.97-29ubuntu66.  Required for linode py-grub which is required for iscsi and quotas17:26
trismM_angled: you added the wheezy one, probably just have to fix it in your /etc/apt/sources.list and rerun: sudo apt-get update;17:26
yankI am having some login problems with ubuntu 14.04.17:26
pbxmy volume buttons stopped working. they appear to be set just as they always have in keyboard settings.  what might i have done? only significant system change today i know of was removing durst (notification daemon from i3)17:26
lotuspsychjeyank: can you describe17:26
MCSHctjctj yes that's legacy edit /boot/menu.lst17:26
lotuspsychje!sound | pbx17:26
ubottupbx: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.17:26
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ctjctjFound the error.17:27
Azjoerr. my dd copy to share folder is apparently going at 7.0mb now but it looks like it is going slowly? 1mb a second??17:28
yankSuddenly, since yesterday, I am unable to login. After I try to, it just launches the desktop (no icons) for 3 seconds, flashes and sends me back to the login screen. I am able to login through guest account.17:28
ctjctjif you run update-grub -y; modify menu.lst; update-grub you get two copies.  If instead you run update-grub -y;update-grub; modify; update-grub; it works.17:28
Guest47326hello17:28
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darthanubishello17:28
lotuspsychjeyank: did you try make a new user?17:28
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linuxsonanybody here worked with cygwin before?17:29
Guest47326krun17:29
lotuspsychjelinuxson: try the #cigwin channel17:29
Azjoanyone with great knowledge of dd copy thru smb share??17:29
linuxsoncool17:29
lotuspsychjelinuxson: #cygwin sorry17:29
yanklotuspsychje: No but I have deleted .Xauthority (with a backup), reinstalled xorg and made unity default settings.17:30
M_angledhm, I did actually want 'wheezy" because I'm superstitious about using the same program version as the majoirity ;) but if trusty will work and wheezy will be a hassle, I'll give it a shot17:30
M_angledattempting to install from new repo now17:30
yank(through unity-tweak-tools)17:30
lotuspsychjeyank: maybe try grub recoverymode with a shell, and make a new user?17:30
yankI can login on tty17:30
trismM_angled: well the versions are all the same, the difference is they build against different libs17:30
M_angledah, ok. I thought I was using a slightly older program version by using wheezy17:31
lotuspsychjeyank: checkout lightdm.log maybe to see whats going on?17:31
M_angledlooks like it's working, thanks :)17:31
lotuspsychje!cookie | trism17:31
yanklotuspsychje: Okay, one second...17:31
ubottutrism: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!17:31
ctjctjyank, I have the exact same issue on some older hardware after I yanked the dead nvidia board.  Xorg works for the login screen but fails to allow you to log in.  Including a brand new user.17:31
pbxlotuspsychje, thanks, but all those settings are normal-looking, as before (and the troubleshooting stuff is all "i have no sound" which is not my problem; my system simply isn't reacting to the HW keys)17:32
lotuspsychjepbx: anything relevant in syslog or dmesg about it?17:32
ghosty_bonsoir quelqu'un conai le # tag d'ubuntu quebec17:33
lotuspsychje!fr | ghosty_17:33
ubottughosty_: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.17:33
ghosty_merci17:33
yanklotuspsychje: I don't understand it at all.. Should I pastebin ?17:35
He4dShOt_noteboohello17:35
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lotuspsychjeyank: sure ill take a look at your lightdm.log17:35
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He4dShOt_laptopis it normal that while my laptop is locked the fn+f[1-12] are still accessible?17:36
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EriC^^yeah17:36
He4dShOt_laptopis there a way I cant disable them while is locked?17:37
yanklotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11703233/17:37
Guest80666After installing Ubuntu, I get the error "no boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed" Here is my boot repair paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170319717:37
lotuspsychjelemme look17:37
He4dShOt_laptop*can17:37
lotuspsychjeyank: sounds like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/128890317:39
ubottuUbuntu bug 1288903 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Cannot login to lightdm after upgrade to trusty" [High,Invalid]17:39
pbxlotuspsychje, not sure what i'm looking for but nothing obvious seen in syslog or dmesg, nor action in syslog when i hit the keys.17:40
lotuspsychjeyank: a lot of time shows in lightdm log: User /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1000 changed17:40
ctjctjYank, lotuspsychje THANK YOU!  Brings that system back to life.  MY lady will be happy about that.17:41
lotuspsychjepbx: can you try a realtime tail -f /var/log/syslog and tail -f /var/log/dmesg17:41
yanklotuspsychje: Unfortunately I can't access that link since I'm on tty17:41
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ctjctjyank: short answer: apt-get install ubuntu-session17:41
lotuspsychjeyank: did you clean install or upgrade?17:41
yankclean install17:42
yankOh, I have seen that too17:42
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yankMay I try to reinstall ubuntu session ?17:42
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ctjctjyank, that's what the bug he referenced suggests.17:42
yankoh, ok17:42
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yankbecause I already tried to install it and it said it was already installed17:43
yankwill reinstall it this time17:43
ctjctjOne other thing in there: I fixed this by installing unity-greeter and manually editing /etc/lightdm/lighdm.conf (greeter-session was empty for some reason, I had to set it to "unity-greeter").17:43
pbxlotuspsychje, yeah, nothing in either when i hit the keys17:43
ScraakAfter installing Ubuntu, I get the error "no boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed" Here is my boot repair paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1170319717:44
ctjctjScraak, sounds like grub was not installed.17:44
yankctjctj: I do not even have a lightdm.conf file O.O17:45
yankwill reinstall it17:45
ctjctjTry with just the ubuntu-session install first.17:45
ctjctjI'm just reading the web page for you.  I know what it is like to be stuck in the cli with no gui.  (about the time I start web browsing with my phone)17:46
Scraakctj, how do install grub? I'm pretty new to linux17:46
yankshould I restart ?17:46
ctjctjif everything is absolutely wonderful "sudo update-grub"17:46
ctjctjYank, you might be able to do "sudo service lightdm restart"17:47
ctjctjIf not you can use the M$ fix.17:47
MCSHctjctj I doubt that would work; Scraak do you have an ubuntu disk/flash drive?17:47
Scraakyeah i have it on disk17:47
MCSHCan you boot it live?17:48
Scraakyeah, it's what i'm doing rn17:48
yankctjctj: Reinstalled ubuntu-session, restart lightdm service, didn't work17:48
TJ-Scraak: "no boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed" comes from the PC's BIOS/Firmware. It is possible the problem is simply the boot device order setting17:48
yankctjctj: Should I try to reinstall lightdm aswell ?17:48
ctjctjyank, I don't think that is required.17:49
yankThen what should I do ? I still not being able to login17:49
ScraakTJ-: Which device should be booted first, then?17:49
ctjctjyank, I'm looking at my configurations for an answer for you.17:50
yankctjctj: Oh, thank you very much17:50
TJ-Scraak: The device that Ubuntu is installed to - sometimes this happens after the install media is removed if the boot order was changed to do that. Some PCs can remove devices from the boot order list rather than just shuffling the list order17:50
TJ-Scraak: That's the very first thing I'd investigate in this situation since the error comes from the firmware, not the boot loader or OS17:51
ScraakTJ-:Yeah, the problem starts after ubuntu is done installing and it tells me to remove any installation device17:51
ctjctjyank, got to bounce to a different/older box.17:52
TJ-Scraak: And to complicate matters, modern systems are often UEFI and have a BIOS boot compatibility mode called 'legacy' or CSM (Compatibility Support Module). Which is required depends very much on whether the installer booted in UEFI or BIOS mode since it'll install for that boot mode, too17:52
ScraakTJ_: I'm certain it booted and installed in UEFI17:53
TJ-Scraak: Your boot info seems to indicate a UEFI installation on sda17:53
yanklotuspsychje: So, any thoughs ?17:53
ScraakTJ-: Okay, does that mean I have to change something?17:54
yankctjctj: What I didn't understand sorry ?17:54
ctjctjI'm at the office right now. My office box is running 15.04.  I can't find anything about a greeter in my config files.  So I went to my home box running 14.10 and checked there.  No greeter there either.17:55
yankoh17:55
TJ-Scraak: Now, with UEFI there's one other important issue. The PC firmware keeps, in non-volatile memory, the boot entries and the boot order. Looking at your boot info output, the listing produced by efibootmgr shows the boot order "BootOrder: 0001,0002,000A,000B,0006,0007,000C,0000" and that 0000 (last) is the Ubuntu entry... so all those other devices will be tried first. That also makes me think you need to alter the boot order in the Firmware setup so Ubuntu (17:55
TJ-0000) appears first17:55
TJ-Scraak: (line 472 of your pastebin)17:56
yankWell just in case, I have no xorg.conf on etc/X11 neither lightdm.conf on etc/lightdm17:56
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ScraakTJ-: Alright, but I've tried to manually boot it from ubuntu and it's had the same error17:56
TJ-Scraak: OK ... let me read some more of your boot-info, in detail this time17:56
ctjctjyank: about 4 years ago xorg.conf became optional.  The detection routines got good enough that the defaults were good.17:57
yankOh17:57
ctjctjWhat type of video card do you have?17:57
yankme ?17:57
yankintel gma 315017:57
yankI want to use this computer as workstation17:57
TJ-Scraak: line 707 indicates the boot order has been fixed17:58
TJ-Scraak: Aha!!17:58
ScraakI haven't changed anything yet so I don't know why that is17:59
Aurax0rhi there18:00
TJ-Scraak: Both the outputs from efibootmgr for the Boot000 (Ubuntu) entry have faulty paths - unless there's something wrong with how boot-info captures the output of efibootmgr. On the first (line 473) there is no path to the EFI executable... and on the 2nd (line 708) the path is missing the path separator slashes18:00
ScraakTJ-: Okay, how do I fix it?18:00
TJ-Scraak: That looks to me like Firmware bug... those used to be quite common... can you tell us the exact make/model of the PC motherboard and the firmware version ?18:01
ScraakTJ-: Okay, I'm looking it up18:02
TJ-Scraak: This might give it you: "grep DMI /var/log/dmesg"18:03
ctjctjyank, strings /usr/sbin/lightdm | grep lightdm takes us to /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d where you can find examples for /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf18:03
ctjctj50-ubuntu.conf says use user-session=ubuntu which would require ubuntu-session18:04
ScraakTJ-: Okay it's Hewlett-Packard 500-c60/2B05, BIOS 80.10 01/10/201418:04
TJ-yank: Have you investigated the logs in "/var/log/lightdm/" for clues?18:04
yankTJ-: Yes but I know knothing about these things...18:06
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ScraakTJ-: Would giving FAT32 a 'boot' flag in gparted fix the problem?18:07
ctjctjTJ-, He put out a pastbin.  looks like X server got signal 1018:07
ctjctj[+175.65s] DEBUG: Got signal 10 from process 303518:08
ctjctjTJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11703233/18:08
TJ-Scraak: No; this is totally an firmware bug issue - path is incorrect in the boot menu18:08
TJ-Scraak: I am trying to navigate the HP support site to discover any BIOS updates but the site goes round in circles!18:09
TJ-yank: ctjctj Have you checked/removed "/home/$USER/.Xauthority" in case it is corrupt?18:10
yankTJ-: Yes, will do that again...18:10
IP92anyone using spotify's web player? Can you login using the facebook ID?18:11
TJ-yank: Shouldn't need to do it again - there's a rare bug where that file gets created owned by 'root' user so when a user logs in it doesn't have permission to delete and replace that file, so the user session aborts back to the login greeter18:12
nils_can I get systemd to put out some visual feedback when I stop/start/restart/reload services?18:12
yankso I should chown the file to me ?18:12
ScraakTJ-:I found the page where you download updates for my exact PC, but there is nothing listed. http://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-pavilion-500-c00-desktop-pc-series/6528309/model/6529878#Z7_3054ICK0K8UDA0AQC11TA930O218:13
TJ-yank: It should already be owned by your user, if not, that is a problem18:13
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yankyeah it stills not working18:14
TJ-Scraak: OK but if you select Windows OS and Win 7 there's a BIOS update listed 80.20 Rev A) issued June 9th 201518:14
ctjctjYank, I'm sorry but nothing more I can do for you from here.  I can't even get my remote hands (lady) to do things on the broken box.18:15
footerHi. I have my hard drive encrypted with the option ubuntu gives on installation. Now laptops motherboard is dead. Willl i be able to retrive the data back given i have only password of sudo18:15
TJ-Scraak: I'd try that first if you know how to apply it, then redo the boot info repair in case the path holds correctly. From what I've told you, you know now what to look for in that boot-info output to determine if the path issue is fixed or not18:16
nils_footer: are you using ecryptfs then?18:16
nils_footer: the option should be named something like "encrypt user home directories"18:16
yankctjctj: Thanks anyway :)18:16
TJ-footer: Do you mean user home encrypted, or full disk encryption? Either way, changing the motherboard won't affect being able to unlock encrypted volumes18:16
footerYess i guess so, it puts keys in .private in hone i guess18:16
nils_footer: in any case, if the mainboard dies your data is probably still safe as long as you have all the credentials18:16
yankI may end up reinstalling18:16
yankreplacing it with arch18:17
nils_footer: should work with your normal user password18:17
footerNils_ yes that home directory encryption18:17
yankIm just lazy18:17
nils_yank: I prefer the term efficient ;)18:17
footerNils, thanks you very much18:17
yankWell, bye guys, thanks for the help! I really appreciate it.18:18
jackarghi there quick question, I'm trying to open minecraft.jar with openjdk java 7 except the option doesn't show up when right clicking, only the "archive manager" does. The file is set as executable. help?18:18
ScraakTJ-: How do I apply the update in Ubuntu? I've been using the "Try before installing" mode18:19
footerTj, thanks you too18:19
TJ-Scraak: I think you have to use the HP recovery tools, or Windows, but you'll have to read the HP documents on that.18:19
TJ-Scraak: The details for that update hint that it may fix this, too: "- Improved security of UEFI code and variables."18:20
MCSHjackarg create a file next to it like this: java -jar FILENAME18:20
MCSHjackarg make this file executable and run it18:21
ScraakTJ-:Okay, I'm going to be gone for a while, doing this18:21
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jackargMCSH: where filename is .. ?18:22
MCSHJackarg minecraft file, I think it should be minecraft.jar18:22
jackargMCSH: not sure if I'm doing this right, I typed "java -jar minecraft.jar" in my home folder where the actual jar is and got this: "Error: Unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar"18:24
es_Unhammer: if you are still reading this it turned out to be a pemission problem on the home directory being group writable makes ssh not accepting public keys authentication18:24
MCSHWhere is minecraft.jar? same folder?18:25
ScraakTJ-: AHAA!!! I just fixed it in the strangest way possible! I launched system recovery, and Ubuntu just, launched!18:25
MCSHScraak congratz!18:25
MCSHJackarg that's basically correct,  the only problem is that it can't locate the minecraft.jar file, make sure you spelled it correctly,  it's on the same folder, etc18:26
TJ-Scraak: Fab. Can you show us what "pastebinit <(sudo efibootmgr -v)" now reports?18:27
jackargMCSH: ah, forgot about it being case sensitive. all is good, thanks a bunch. i have to do this every time i'd like to run the game now?18:28
ctjctjjackarg, you might be able to right click on the jar file and select "java" to open it.18:28
MCSHJackarg no just execute this file18:28
ScraakTJ-: Yeah I'm trying to install it and it's not letting my type in my password, like it's not accepting input in the terminal18:29
jackargctjctj: that's the problem, i don't have the option18:30
jackargMCSH: don't see any new file created18:30
TJ-jackarg: Is there an "Open with..." option?18:30
MCSHJackarg simply put that command in a new document18:31
MCSHAnd mark that as executable18:31
jackargMCSH: right.18:31
jackargTJ-: yes and java is not an available alternative18:31
cotalinuxHello, I've set up LXC with LAMP and everything is working nicely. Now I would like to link a folder (www) from the host to the LXC. I've tried with ln -s but it doesn't seem to be working. Does anyone have any ideas how I can do this?18:36
trismcotalinux: http://askubuntu.com/questions/610513/share-a-folder-between-host-and-ubuntu-lxc-container18:38
khalsahi18:38
uporotkhalsa: hi18:40
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pbxmy volume keys stopped having any effect, any ideas? all relevant settings (sound, keyboard) seem correct and the same as they have been. sound works normally otherwise, this is clearly an input issue18:46
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TekkkzHello. I have a problem launching minecraft, everytime at startup its following error: https://bpaste.net/show/bc8a17065991 how to fix that?18:52
r-a-xi am able to connect to wifi but unable to access internet, I am able to ping website by ip but not by name, and i experience 80% packet loss18:53
kuba7447Tekkkz, are you using openJDK ???18:53
Tekkkzkuba7447, yeah i think so – how to figure that out?18:54
kuba7447tekkkz , i had the same problem a day ago, i fix it18:54
Tekkkzkuba7447, how?18:55
kuba7447you have to download oracle's JDK, give me a sec and i will give you the link18:55
Tekkkzkuba7447, sure, thanks18:58
brainwash_Tekkkz: this user was able to resolve the problem http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/support/unmodified-minecraft-client/2440292-minecraft-boot-trap-error18:59
kuba7447http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCEQFjAAahUKEwiiyeyK64rGAhWHXRQKHXMPAF4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtogeek.com%2F198476%2Fhow-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-or-any-other-linux-distribution%2F&ei=0St7VeKcFYe7UfOegPAF&usg=AFQjCNHdSnr3X3cyU_1XEUhJd0p5Gcmp8g&bvm=bv.95515949,d.d2419:00
brainwash_uhm.. that's a long link19:00
kuba7447tekkkz, http://www.howtogeek.com/198476/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-or-any-other-linux-distribution/19:00
kuba7447it didnt load properly19:00
Tekkkzahh ok thanks, brainwash_ 's worked, but thx for your help too, kuba744719:01
kuba7447here, tekkkz, http://www.howtogeek.com/198476/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-or-any-other-linux-distribution/19:01
brainwash_great :)19:01
kuba7447tekkkz, install oracle's jdk anyway, performance increase...19:02
brainwash_he left already19:02
brainwash_he/she19:02
kuba7447ok19:02
xentity1xHi can someone help me figure out why I get a blank screen when I boot into discretre graphics mode with my thinkpad w530. I'm running ubuntu 14.10 with an nvidia quadro k2000m.19:06
kuba7447xentity1x, what driver are you using ?19:07
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Blackporthi, I have problem with ati acceleration in my version of ubuntu, I have hybrid graphic Intel/Amd19:08
xentity1xkuba7447, I've tried a few. Most recently I tried the nouveau driver. I also tried nvidia-304 (proprietary) and nvidia-331 (proprietary)19:09
lotuspsychjexentity1x: does that card use optimus?19:09
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xentity1xlotuspsychje>, yes I've gotten it to work with bumblebee, but I want to also be able to use discrete mode because using dual monitors with bumblebee is difficult19:11
lotuspsychjexentity1x: bumblebee is outdated, use nvidia-optimus instead19:11
xentity1xkuba7447, I'm not sure the best driver to use.19:11
lotuspsychje!info nvidia-prime | xentity1x can you check this package?19:12
ubottuxentity1x can you check this package?: nvidia-prime (source: nvidia-prime): Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.1 (vivid), package size 10 kB, installed size 114 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)19:12
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xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, thanks i tried googling that but I can't find any info. Can you direct me to a guide?19:14
BlackportHi Again, I have problem with ati acceleration on my laptop I have hybrid graphic Intel/Amd. My laptop was freezing for while ;/19:14
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, i installed the package but I dont know how to use it19:15
lotuspsychjexentity1x: if you sure your card uses optimus technology, then sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime19:15
lotuspsychjexentity1x: reboot after, and start nvidia-settings, to enable performance mode to use your nvidia card19:15
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, ok brb19:15
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lotuspsychjeBlackport: anything usefull to see in your syslog or dmesg?19:17
lotuspsychjexentity1x: found nvidia-settings from dash?19:19
BlackportWhen I'm writing vainfo in terminal I don't see amd card, only information about Intel integrate card . I didn't check syslog19:19
losthello all19:19
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, ok so i did that. This is what nvidia-settings looks like for me http://i.imgur.com/3esUt0u.png19:20
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lotuspsychjeBlackport: can you switch the card to amd from bios?19:20
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lostanyone have exp with uefi and ubuntu?19:20
lotuspsychjexentity1x: what about application profiles19:20
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, it doesnt show any programs on that screen19:21
Blackportlotuspsychje: nope ;/  I have asus k53sk laptop  so  they blocked this option in bios19:21
xentity1xit's just a blank list19:21
lotuspsychjexentity1x: no profile to edit?19:21
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losti have some boot issues becuase i installed in legacy mode but i need it in uefi and need the efi file i think but im actually pretty new to linux19:22
lotuspsychjexentity1x: should look like this: http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=nvidia_prime_ubuntu1404&image=nvidia_optimus_prime1_med19:22
xentity1xhttp://imgur.com/CNHPsIb19:22
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>,http://imgur.com/CNHPsIb19:22
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lotuspsychjexentity1x: wich drive do you have loaded right now? maybe try a switch from additional drivers?19:23
lotuspsychje!uefi | lost19:24
ubottulost: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI19:24
xentity1x<lotuspsychje im using nouevaeu right now19:24
lotuspsychjexentity1x: try another maybe, to see if that influence nvidia-settings19:24
xentity1x<lotuspsychje any idea how to figure out the best driver for your grpahics card?19:25
dacorr_trial an error until one of the nvidia drivers work19:25
xentity1x<lotuspsychje> i see a few listed under additional drivers19:25
lotuspsychjexentity1x: ubuntu should normaly choose best driver by default, if you enabled internet + updates19:26
dacorr_ think 340 worked but my onboard intel is still complaining19:26
xentity1x<lotuspsychje> i tried reinstalling nvidia-current19:29
pbxi solved my volume-keys-no-work problem.  it was some detritus from installing i3.  removed all i3 packages and rebooted and we're in business again19:29
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>now im using nvidia-304 proprietary. The gpu still isnt showing up on nvidia settings19:29
lotuspsychje!yay | xen19:30
ubottuxen: Glad you made it! :-)19:30
lotuspsychjexentity1x: might need a reboot19:30
xentity1x<lotuspsychje> ok brb19:30
lotuspsychjepbx: so i3 messed up unity?19:31
pbxlotuspsychje, yeah, subtly19:31
lotuspsychjepbx: ok tnx for feedback, good to know19:31
Stoner19hello all19:32
Stoner19is server the same as desktop, just without the GUI?19:32
lotuspsychje!server | Stoner1919:32
ubottuStoner19: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server19:32
Stoner19thank you. I wasn't sure if there were additional packages included in server or if it was just designed to be command prompt only but with same packages as desktop19:33
lotuspsychjeStoner19: server is non-gui indeed, with other needs then desktop19:34
Stoner19thank you very much19:34
lotuspsychjeStoner19: do you want to install ubuntu server?19:34
Stoner19yes, that is likely what I'll be using. Going to wipe an old macbook to install it on19:35
mach20xShould I update to 15.04 from 14.10 I have been having troubles with the graphics, it would seem19:38
SchrodingersScatmach20x: eventually you'll want to make a move anyway19:39
mach20x"The move" you mean19:41
SchrodingersScatif you wait too long you'll be headed off to 16.04 before you know it :)19:41
lotuspsychjemach20x: 14.10 is almost end of life, the move means you will have to update soon anyway19:42
mach20xI'm doing the upgrade as we speak19:44
lotuspsychjemach20x: good choice19:44
lostim using 15.04 now19:45
lostbut i have dual boot for 14.04 also19:45
lostbut i have some boot issues because of uefi with a layer of bios19:46
mach20xI just got a new modem installed, the Ethernet port fried during a lightning storm on the old one, I think that port was starting to go anyways19:46
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, okay got it!19:48
lotuspsychjexentity1x: how did you fix mate?19:48
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, I had to install the nvidia-331 drivers.19:48
fellayaboyis it possible to run a gui program without a desktop environment?19:48
mach20xI might have got some bad packages as a result of the failing Ethernet port on the old modem19:48
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, now any idea how to get it to detect my second monitor connected to the vga port19:48
xentity1x?19:48
lotuspsychje!xrandr | xentity1x19:49
ubottuxentity1x: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1219:49
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, this is the output of xrandr http://pastebin.com/zqahRfQS19:49
mach20xThat maybe why it was crashing. EriC^^  has the lowdown on the output of my machine with regards to that problem19:50
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, Its not detecting the vga connection19:50
lotuspsychjexentity1x: you need to config xrandr, read the link mate19:50
lotuspsychjefellayaboy: if the package is also for terminal, you can run it19:51
mach20xHas there been any updates to the open source drivers in Ubuntu for my 4650 ati graphics cards (am doing variety)19:52
fellayaboylotuspsychje: well yeah but what about x applications like firefox or calculator libreoffice…is it possible to run the command and load the gui app without the desktop environment?19:52
mach20xAMD not am19:52
lotuspsychjefellayaboy: not sure what you wanna achieve with this?19:53
fellayaboyor to somehow load a very very light weight desktop environment the moment it runs19:53
lotuspsychje!windowmanagers | fellayaboy19:53
ubottufellayaboy: A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), !LXDE (lubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors19:53
lotuspsychje!info blackbox | fellayaboy19:54
ubottufellayaboy: blackbox (source: blackbox): Window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.70.1-23 (vivid), package size 208 kB, installed size 670 kB19:54
fellayaboyhmm blackbo19:54
fellayaboylet me check that out19:54
fellayaboyi also wanted to run gui apps off of an ssh server… i tried it to do it but some gui apps dont work while others do..but at least i wnted to try doing it locally…19:55
lotuspsychjefellayaboy: e17 (enlightment) is also cool19:55
mach20xfellayaboy:  are you running a chroot environment on a single core on a phone or something?19:55
fellayaboyraspberry pi19:55
fellayaboyubuntu-mate…i had another ubuntu before where it was just the command line no deskto environment before i plan to do the same with this one19:56
lotuspsychjefellayaboy: you can also ssh X19:56
mach20xAh OK, I figured it was something with very limited resources19:56
fellayaboyi use to run gui apps using ssh -X …some apps run the gui fine on the client but not most19:57
fellayaboysimple apps like gedit would work19:57
fellayaboyguys thanks for all your help19:58
fellayaboylotuspsychje:  enlightment looks awesome tahnks for sharing that19:59
PeretThe 'avahi daemon' is installed in Ubuntu by default. Are there security risks if I am using public networks (Free WiFi, ...)?19:59
lotuspsychjefellayaboy: no sweat mate19:59
lotuspsychjePeret: public wifi's are always a risk mate20:00
lotuspsychjePeret: they can sniff out passwords20:00
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, okay so I tried turning on vga1 with xrandr --output VGA1 --right-of LVDS120:00
Peretlotuspsychje: Yes, I know. But what could others do if I have the avahi daemon installed? Could you tell me some examples for possible attacks?20:01
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, that doesnt seem to work20:01
lotuspsychjexentity1x: not sure about that man, sorry dont got 2 screens here20:01
xentity1x<lotuspsychje>, okay thanks20:01
lotuspsychjePeret: not sure for avahi, but public wifi's are always a risk20:03
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lotuspsychjePeret: if you keep your system up to date, security risks will lower20:04
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Z3Hi ! If I buy BQ Aquaris E5 Ubuntu edition, when "docking mode" or convergence is finished will be available too in this phone?20:10
Ev0luti0n_Hi folks.20:10
xentity1xcan anyone help me figure out how to add a second monitor with xrandr?20:10
brainwash_!hi20:10
Z3I want to use it as a desktop pc when convergence is ready20:10
lotuspsychje!touch | Z320:10
ubottuZ3: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch20:10
Z3lotuspsychje ok, thank you20:11
Ev0luti0n_Is there any hidden panel, where the power management features can be controled on Ubuntu?20:13
Ev0luti0n_thoroughly searched the system settings, in hopes of finding how to enable bluetooth over battery, but found nothing. Unity tweaker has nothing as well...20:14
lotuspsychjeEv0luti0n_: dconf-editor has power management options20:14
lotuspsychje!info dconf-editor | Ev0luti0n_20:14
ubottuEv0luti0n_: dconf-editor (source: d-conf): simple configuration storage system - utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.22.0-1 (vivid), package size 102 kB, installed size 488 kB20:14
Ev0luti0n_thanks!20:14
Ev0luti0n_Not being a complete newb, i do have a question. How am i able to find these not so obvious things? I mean, in windows you have "config .ini files, registry editing"... in linux, i just feel lost in certain situations.20:15
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mach20xI'm running my system on a TV with 1080p but the drivers I have won't recognize the hdmi converter. Should I load the propriety drivers for my graphics cards? Will that solve this issue?20:16
lotuspsychjeEv0luti0n_: well dconf editor is a bit like a registry20:17
lotuspsychjeEv0luti0n_: of course, there are plenty of nice packages also to make your life easier20:18
Ev0luti0n_installing it already from the sources.20:18
Ev0luti0n_What i am trying to say is that, "one sort of is capable of finding the solution through the windows guy for a problem that arises", while on linux, if i don't search the web, i am not capable of arranging a solution; ever. loll20:19
lotuspsychjeEv0luti0n_: whats your issue exactly?20:20
Ev0luti0n_there is always a myriad of commands, string combinations, packages, dpkg, extracting from archives20:20
Ev0luti0n_you name it.20:20
lotuspsychje!info arandr | xentity1x can this help?20:20
ubottuxentity1x can this help?: arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.7.1-1 (vivid), package size 66 kB, installed size 507 kB20:20
Ev0luti0n_As for now, nothing more. Just a newb ranting. Thanks lotuspsychje20:20
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mach20xI guess I'll just have to try it and find out20:26
tgm4883mach20x: I'd say just try it. You could also just hand configure xorg.conf20:27
mach20xWhat would I do with xorg.conf now?20:28
tgm4883well you could hand configure it so the settings match what your TV can do, you'll need to set the ignore EDID flag20:29
sting3ranyone know any replacement for remastersys or reconstructor20:29
tgm4883mach20x: if the settings aren't getting picked up automatically, then that would be the way to do it manually20:30
sting3rrunning ubuntu 15.0420:30
ptrzhow do I get to a terminal from the login prompt?20:30
mach20xGreat, I'll keep that in mind!20:30
ptrz(the Unity login prompt)20:30
ptrzit's giving me the "failed to start session" error20:30
tgm4883ptrz: ctrl+alt+F120:31
ptrzand I'm pretty proficient as a sysadmin, but I'm not getting a grub option and I can't get any information at all about what's actually going on20:31
ptrztgm4883: ah, thanks. I really think there should be a menu option for that20:31
ptrzcause from what I could tell, I was logged out and was going to have to boot to a recovery USB20:32
sting3rneed a good app too replace remastersys or reconstructor20:32
tgm4883ptrz: I... you don't need to do that often, and that's the case for any linux distro out there.20:32
mach20xI'm not getting any signal to the hdmi as it is set now with a converter for the dvi20:32
dmrqahoy20:34
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hugegreenbugsting3r: try my script: github.com/distroshare/distroshare-ubuntu-imager20:35
ptrztgm4883: what's the case?20:35
sting3rthx20:36
tgm4883ptrz: any linux distro you try would do the same for ctrl+alt+F120:36
ptrztgm4883: anyway, I'm seeing two errors in syslog. one about dnsmasq that I think I recognize, and one about systemd not being able to open the usb descriptor file or something like that20:36
ptrzI upgraded and dist-upgraded and rebooted. checking back now to see whether it worked20:37
roothy /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER roothy owgruqshujny20:40
jParktonnope20:42
dionysus69hey guys20:42
dionysus69I am following this tutorial20:43
dionysus69I am told to install tigervnc on centos, is tigervnc "default" for ubuntu for the same reasons it is for centos?20:43
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tgm4883I'm not sure I understand the question20:46
PeretCan sombody explain me why ntpd opens port 123 by default although I only want to sync the time?20:47
compdocbeacuse thats the NTP port?20:48
jParkton:O20:49
swair i'm compiling kernel 3.16 gcc versions are 5 and 4.8, i've set CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.8 still i get this error: fatal error: linux/compiler-gcc5.h: No such file or directory. anu ideas?20:49
jParktonlooks like the script you are trying to compile is looking for => v520:49
swairits the Makefile for kernel. i set CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.820:50
swairso it should not look for the gcc5 header right?20:50
hugegreenbugPeret: ntpd is also a server, not just a client to sync the time. AFAIK20:51
Peretcompdoc: But why not only send a ntp request to the server and get the answer? Why have the port be open all the time?20:51
dionysus69so if I want to install vnc server or client on ubuntu, what would I install? I guess there are several forks20:51
mach20xShould I replace /etc/nginx/nginx.conf  ?20:51
hugegreenbugPeret: If configured correctly, other clients could sync the time from your ntpd daemon20:52
mach20xFrom 14.10 to 15.0420:52
Perethugegreenbug: Isn't there a possibility so that I use the program only as client?20:52
hugegreenbugPeret: I think by default it is setup to only be a client, but it still opens that port. You can check the ntp config file20:54
hugegreenbugPeret: I think it is in /etc/ntp or something20:55
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ELITEZ-CRYPTOhttp://worldhacker.org20:58
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jParktonman his site is so crappy21:02
jParktonpitiful engrish21:02
OliPicardHi everyone, I'm trying to create a init.d script that can run the following command on boot su kippo -c /home/kippo/kippo/start.sh any ideas on how to do this?21:02
OliPicardI just need the script to run on boot fire up and that's it.21:02
tewardOliPicard: perhaps put it at the end of /etc/rc.local21:02
mcphailor add it to kippo's crontab21:03
tewardwhich is called during boot21:03
tewardmcphail: he'll need pidfile checking or such but that's another option21:03
tewardmcphail: if he only wants it to run once at boot then /etc/rc.local is probably what he needs21:03
mcphailteward: crontab accepts @reboot as a time21:03
tewardprovided the process is disowned after starting and forked to the background21:03
tewardmcphail: oh really?  cool21:04
mcphailyes, it is handy21:04
tewardmcphail: he could still use /etc/rc.local if he wants, whichever works :P21:04
mcphailagreed :)21:04
lasersIs there a good GTK update manager for those running on different window manager?21:05
OliPicardteward: So I can input the command I mentioned above in /rc.local or should I just run kippo -c /home/kippo/kippo/start.sh21:06
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tewardOliPicard: you should still run the entire command you mentioned above, or put it in the crontab for the user kippo.  Either works, in my opinion.21:07
OliPicardteward: Alrighty so I've gone ahead and done this21:07
OliPicardsu kippo -c /home/kippo/kippo/start.sh & including the and on the end so it's not going into an infinite loop21:07
Myrthhello, during `aptitude upgrade`, /boot got full and can't linux-server installation crashed. i've cleaned old files, but now i can't install or upgrade kernel because it says: "Internal Error: Could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-85-generic-pae)"21:09
Myrthhow can i force it to install the newest kernel? thanks21:09
ScuniziI have a lot of entries in .bash_aliases. Is there a way to list what's listed in there via cli? Prehaps creating another alias with a cat command?21:10
OliPicardsweet it's working! :)21:10
dionysus69how do I connect to a vnc server ?21:10
OliPicardThank you everyone!21:10
dionysus69what package do I need to install ?21:10
compdocthe client?21:10
dionysus69its called vnc-client? its not real, tight or tiger? just vnc?21:11
compdocno, do you want a client to connect to an existing vnc server, or do you want to run a vnc server so you can connect?21:12
dionysus69I am connecting to already running vnc21:13
Scunizidionysus69: If you're trying to do a remote desktop connection with graphics you might consider using Teamviewer21:13
dionysus69i partially answered my question, i found out remmina has vnc support, but there are two options, vnc- incoming connections or vnc - virtual network computing?21:14
dionysus69Scunizi: teamviewer on linux is buggy from my experience, vnc has better reputation in my mind21:14
uhci_i guess this is what you need OliPicard https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto21:15
OliPicarduhci_: Thanks :)21:15
OliPicarduhci_: I had a quick look at https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/usage/rc-local.md21:16
courrierHey guys do you know a PDF viewer that is able to switch slides automatically and infinitely restarts from the first when it ends? Evince has not this feature, and I would like to avoid converting my pdf in many pictures ^^21:19
kokutcourrier: why not just press the home button21:20
courrierkokut: I don't wanna press anything, it's for a show, my pdf will autonomously browse slides on a TV in background21:25
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mcphailcourrier: not sure about any software for automatic progression of PDF slides, but very easy to convert to images if you have software which can rotate those21:26
kokutcourrier: use another presentation software21:27
Pifahey there21:28
Pifaanyone can assist with sftp server set up ?21:28
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courrierkokut: I know that, but my question is "what presentation software?"21:29
SchrodingersScat!ask | Pifa: I'm guessing there's some caveats to that?21:29
ubottuPifa: I'm guessing there's some caveats to that?: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:29
mach20xUpgrade install of 15.04 finds me with no sound. How may I fix this.21:32
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snake0hey does anyone know how to force install a packge like http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libre2-dev on trusty21:42
snake0i tried to build from source but i had issues with it21:43
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Guest50732?21:44
Guest50732ahloa21:45
snake0nm got it working21:51
snake0NO THANKS TO YOU FAGS AMIRITE21:51
compdocno21:52
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jParktontakes one to know one, amiright22:09
jParktonyuss22:09
thiedehi22:10
thiedegood night22:10
thiedeNVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)22:13
thiededont get ip22:13
thiedewhat problem ?22:13
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xisall:-D22:49
syadnomhi all.  anyone using btrfs on u14.04s x64 and seeing the misreported available space?22:49
syadnomI have 4x 4TB drives in a raid1 setup, showing 15T available when it should be 7~8TB available22:50
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xisallHiii, i Have a question, Which disto is the best on a Macbook 200922:55
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ubottuUbuntu bug 717 in kdevelop3 (Ubuntu) "Error while generating Index in postinstall" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71722:57
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ubuntu717instale pulseaudio y ahora quede sin sonido22:58
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DalekSec!es | ubuntu71722:58
ubottuubuntu717: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.22:58
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reactormonkI have something listening on port 8443, but netstat -tulpn doesn't list me a PID, neither does fuser. Any other way to figure out what's listening?23:01
EriC^^reactormonk: try lsof -i23:02
reactormonkEriC^^, or try it as root.23:02
EriC^^no need for root23:02
reactormonknetstat told me the PID as root.23:02
EriC^^oh ok, cool23:03
Bray90820What's a good way to remotely update ubuntu23:03
reisioBray90820: via commands23:04
Oogusing sed how do i get it to actually use a \23:04
reisioOog: \\23:04
Oog echo `echo $EB_APP_CURRENT_DIR | sed s/"\/"/"\/"/g`23:04
Bray90820reisio: do you mean through the terminal23:04
EriC^^Bray90820: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in a screen session23:05
reisioOog: escape it like anything else you need to escape23:05
reisioBray90820: yes, over ssh23:05
Oogreisio: i tried that it doesnt work it doesnt do anything. $EB_APP_CURRENT_DIR=/var/app/current i need to get it to \/var\/app\/current23:05
EriC^^Bray90820: use screen23:05
Oogecho `echo $EB_APP_CURRENT_DIR | sed s/"\/"/"\\\/"/g` results in /var/app/current23:05
reactormonkhow do I ask which package a file belongs to?23:05
Bray90820EriC^^: It's a server that I don't have a screen connected to23:05
syadnomBray90820, I suggest using screen or tmux on a remote session though, that way if you get disconnected your session doesn't die23:06
EriC^^Oog: those echo's are a little redundant23:06
reisioOog: you said \ not / :p23:06
reisioOog: sed can use most any delimiter, I prefer @ when not using /23:06
EriC^^Bray90820: screen is something that lets you leave the session but it continues, and you can attach to it later23:06
EriC^^!info screen23:07
ubottuscreen (source: screen): terminal multiplexer with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.1-3 (vivid), package size 529 kB, installed size 1017 kB23:07
reisiosed 's@foo/bar@baz/qux@g23:07
Oogthere we go! simple thanks23:07
Bray90820EriC^^: When you say screen your not talking about connecting a monitor to it right?23:07
reisiowith a trailling ' of course :P23:07
reisiodoing that a lot lately23:07
EriC^^Bray90820: no23:08
* reisio was food poisoned this morning, blames that23:08
Kionfor some reason after upgrading to 15.04, whenever I try to print, my printing dialog takes ages, anybody has a similar problem?23:10
KionOr a solution?23:10
syadnomBray90820, it's a program that virtualizes your terminal.  You can ssh in and connect to 'screen', which has a number of persistant terminal sessions.23:11
Bray90820syadnom: Is it basically RDP from a terminal?23:12
syadnomso you could connect at home, then close your ssh program, go to another location and connect back up to the very same session23:12
syadnomBray90820, I wouldn't say 'basically', but that might be a fair analogy23:12
Bray90820Like screen sharing for just the terminal right?23:12
syadnomBray90820, but it's only for a terminal session, it's not a GUI interface23:13
Bray90820I know there is no GUI23:13
Bray90820Would this work with ubuntu as the server and OSX as the client23:14
EriC^^Bray90820: it's like a session manager for the terminal, like a container for the session, you can run something in screen, detach and then close the terminal and leave it running, then later ssh back in and attach to it23:14
reisioBray90820: ssh works to and from any OS23:14
EriC^^Bray90820: so if your internet goes down or something it would continue for instance23:14
reisioBray90820: screen does as well23:15
reisiobut screen isn't client-server, it's just client23:15
Bray90820so it's just an SSH session?23:15
reisioyou have a screen for each OS you want to use screen on, whereas with ssh you have a client for one and a server for the other23:15
reisioyeah it's just an ssh session23:15
reisiothat you run screen from23:15
reisioremotely, from ssh23:15
reisioscreen is just an app like any other23:15
reisioonly super useful :D23:15
syadnomscreen is for POSIX OS's, so linux, OSX, *BSD etc.  You can connect from about anything because you are just telnet or ssh'ing in and executing the screen program.23:16
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Bray90820Spesifically for "sudo apt-get update" would you think I should stick with teamviewer or move to screens23:17
syadnomBray90820, teamviewer? why would you use that?23:18
EriC^^just use screen, also update only updates the list of packages, it doesn't actually upgrade any packages23:18
syadnomBray90820, ssh in, run screen (look at the docs for how to use it) and win!23:18
Bray90820syadnom: I am using teamviewer for some gui stuff that can'r be done in the terminal23:18
reisioeh, Windows is POSIX, too23:19
reisioif you mean Unixy, say Unixy23:19
syadnomBray90820, 'can't be done in terminal' I dont understand this ;)23:19
reisioheh23:20
Bray90820syadnom: Haha Setting up some mythtv recordings23:20
syadnomreisio, windows is NOT posix compliant.  You can run cygwin on top to have a posix layer, but windows is certainly not23:20
reisiosyadnom: it is23:20
reisioit's just crap is all23:20
reisioPOSIX doesn't guarantee non-crapness23:20
reisioUnix does that :p23:20
reisiowell free Unix, mostly23:20
zykotick9reisio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX#POSIX_for_Windows windows is NOT posix...23:22
syadnomzykotick9, you beat me! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_POSIX_subsystem23:22
syadnomwindows is not POSIX23:22
zykotick9syadnom: :)23:22
Rodrigo5244Windows have win32_api instead of POSIX.23:22
EriC^^windows is only POS23:23
EriC^^without the IX23:23
reisiozykotick9: didn't say it was23:23
zykotick9EriC^^: that's not Point Of Sale I'm assuming ;)23:23
EriC^^zykotick9: lol :P23:23
syadnomhaha definitely not Point of Sale23:23
xisall1Hello, I have a question, Which distro is the best on a mac 200923:23
* syadnom harps on windows while running win8 :/23:23
reisioxisall1: whichever you're most familiar with23:23
reisiosyadnom: probably why they have separate names, windows & posix23:24
syadnomreisio, not really sure how the names come into play :/23:24
xisall1thanks23:24
syadnomThere is no 'POSIX' OS, just POSIX compliant OS's23:25
reisiothat's how it comes into play23:25
syadnomanyway, back to the point of bringing it up, porting between POSIX os's is much easier so screen and tmux etc can be ported to various POSIX os's pretty easily, and so that's where it runs23:26
syadnomthere were even screen ports to beOS23:26
syadnomand current screen and tmux is ported to HaikuOS.23:27
reisioeven easier between Unix OSes :p23:27
reisionot that POSIX isn't a super cool name for a thing23:27
syadnomreisio, which unix os's are you talking about?23:28
syadnomposix compatability is the key commonality, it means standard interfaces.  if you wanted a multi-posix platform compatability for your app, you'd target posix, not unix convensions.  linux for instance doesn't use a ton of unix convensions, it uses posix convensions.23:29
syadnomand so unix command line23:30
reisiosyadnom: Unix ones23:30
reisiono, POSIX is just a thing invented long after Unix OSes23:30
reisioUnix is the commonality23:30
syadnomreisio, no it's not.23:31
reisioyup23:31
syadnomno, linux isn't unix, so there is no 'unix' there to target23:31
OerHeksLoLz23:31
reisioI'll take the word of a Unix co-creator of some random IRC person's :p23:31
reisios/of some/over some/23:31
syadnomreisio, haha, post that word here for all the read23:32
reisioum, sure23:32
lostanyone know about uefi?23:32
reisiolost: what about it23:32
syadnomcause you are wrong, so I want to you let everyone know your incorrect source23:32
OerHeksreisio +123:33
losti have a hp envy m6 and it was originally a windows comp but i installed ubuntu and it has some boot issues i think it has somthing to do with uefi23:33
reisiosyadnom: not sure how I can be wrong about a verified quote, but I'll find it if you like23:33
EriC^^lost: what issues?23:33
syadnomlost, probably say your issue, might be a better path to follow23:33
syadnomreisio, yes please23:34
lostwell ubuntu is installed in legacy mode because it was giving problems like black sceen booting but now it just glitches on boot even sometimes from the login sceen it does it too23:35
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syadnomlost, hmmm, does it boot up though and you just lose video?  can you ssh in to the box?23:35
syadnomlost, can you clarify 'on boot', it sounds as if you are mixing up the system boot with the X initialization.23:36
lostit doesnt lose video like pixle glitches and it does boot and i actually only been using linux for about a year so ssh is somthing ive never done23:36
reisiosyadnom: 4th response: http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/July1999/article79.html23:37
EriC^^lost: type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA and paste here23:37
reisioand 5th23:37
reisioand in general throughout23:37
losttype it in terminal?23:38
EriC^^yeah23:38
reisioalso it's just apparent... GNU was always meant to be a Unix clone, that's what it is23:38
reisioeven if it weren't meant to be, it still is :p23:38
lostwhat does that do?23:38
kuba7447can i make unity games on linux?23:38
EriC^^lost: tells us your graphics card and driver in use23:38
syadnomreisio, Ritchie is an old unix dev, but he is grouping non-unixes with unix as if they are the same and they are not.23:39
lostlost@lost-hp-envy-m6:~$ lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA23:39
lost00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Trinity [Radeon HD 7660G]23:39
lostSubsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 18a623:39
lostKernel driver in use: radeon23:39
lostlost@lost-hp-envy-m6:~$23:39
reisiokuba7447: maybe not so simply23:39
reisiosyadnom: I think this brings us back to: I give his word more credit than yours :p23:39
reisionot that it matters, it's apparent, heh23:39
kuba7447not so simple?23:39
syadnomreisio, except that you are using a reference that doesn't apply.23:40
reisio"Starting this Thanksgiving I am going to write a complete Unix-compatible software system" — original GNU announcement23:40
reisiosyadnom: sure it does23:40
syadnomreisio, that article is BIG on generalization, and doesn't mention posix even once23:40
reisiokuba7447: I don't believe unity3d specifically targets GNU/Linux, so yeah, not as simple as for some OSes23:40
reisiosyadnom: why would it, I just got done saying posix is irrelevant :p23:41
kuba7447will unity be natively supported on linux?23:41
reisioif you want proof that it's irrelevant, Windows supports it and Windows still bites23:41
syadnomreisio, posix is relevant, it is why the gnu toolchain works on linux.23:41
reisiokuba7447: you're talking about unity3d, yes?23:41
kuba7447unity sdk23:41
syadnomthe gnu toolchain was written for posix compliance, and very spcifically NOT unix23:41
reisiosyadnom: gnu predates posix23:41
OerHekskuba7447, if you want unity game engine, no: osx and windows only23:41
OerHekshttp://unity3d.com/get-unity23:42
syadnomstallman was writing a toolchain for a non-unix OS23:42
kuba7447that sucks :(23:42
kuba7447is blender good?23:42
reisiowhat do you expect from a proprietary engine23:42
reisiokuba7447: yes, it's grand23:42
reisiosyadnom: he was writing a toolchain for an OS he wouldn't get sued over23:42
reisionaturally it would not be "Unix", merely Unix23:42
syadnomreisio, sure.  and it wasn't unix23:42
reisiowasn't it? :p23:43
syadnomreisio, certainly not23:43
reisiois a clone the same entity as what it was cloned from?23:43
reisiono, but also yes :p23:43
lostbecause im so new to linux where could i learn more im super ambitious about learning everything linux  any recommendations where i could learn more about terminal just all linux23:43
reisiolost: ##linux in general23:43
kuba7447will Microsoft sue reactOS ?23:43
syadnomreisio, no, hurd isn't a unix, linux isn't a unix23:43
lostyes23:43
reisiokuba7447: didn't they already?23:43
kuba7447did they? lol23:43
reisioI'm sure they threatened to, at least23:43
reisiosyadnom: indeed, hurd is a kernel23:44
reisioUnix is an OS23:44
reisioI know reactos did a huge audit to avoid that23:44
syadnomreisio, ok, so I'll clarify.  GNU/Hurd and GNU/Linux are not unixes23:44
reisioMicrosoft makes more from suing people making money23:44
kuba7447same with apple23:44
reisiosyadnom: sure they are23:45
syadnomthey are not23:45
reisiosyadnom: sure they are23:45
zykotick9syadnom: i'd say they are unix-like...23:45
losti just wanna learn how to use linux more fluently23:45
reisioby the very act of using the word "UnixES", you verify that Unix is not a single thing23:45
reisioso just give it a rest :p23:45
syadnomzykotick9, they are unix-like, but they are not unix23:45
kuba7447i wanted to try reactOS but why should i?23:45
reisiokuba7447: I can't think of a reason23:45
reisiokuba7447: severe boredom?23:45
OerHeks!terminal | lost23:46
ubottulost: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal23:46
kuba7447maybe23:46
syadnomreisio, I (nor linus) ever use unixes to describe linux23:46
zykotick9syadnom: they are not direct decendents of unix no.23:46
reisiosyadnom: because Linux is a kernel23:46
reisioand Unix is an OS...23:46
le_piglol...23:46
syadnomgnu/linux, which is generally referred to as linux :/23:46
kuba7447hurd will fail, its too much behind23:46
lostoerheks ty23:46
syadnomunless you are stallman and you have a hard on for the gnu part23:46
losthey you guys watched the show Mr Robot?23:47
reisioright, but I'm sure Linus, having created Linux, which is a kernel, unlike you perhaps(? :p), knows it's a kernel and not an OS23:47
syadnomkuba7447, hurd wont fail, you have to exist to fail lol23:47
reisiolost: nope, good?23:47
kuba7447linux > hurd23:47
syadnomreisio, linux is a kernel, gnu is a non-unix toolchain.  GNU/Linux is not unix, it's unix-like23:47
lostyes i thought so23:47
reisioI bookmarked it a few weeks back23:47
reisiolost: cool23:47
reisiokuba7447: certainly fatter :p23:48
reisiosyadnom: you're so cute :p23:48
kuba7447i dont understand why someone should call linux gnu/linux23:48
reisiokuba7447: 'Unix' is simpler23:48
syadnomkuba7447, because stallman hates us all, thats why23:48
reisiobut if you were distinguishing between one Unix and another, GNU/Linux is useful23:48
reisiobecause GNU is about 900% of the OS, and Linux is about 0.5%23:48
syadnomreisio, unix isn't simpler, linux isn't unix so it's completely untrue23:48
syadnomto use reactos as an example, reactos isn't windows.23:48
reisioif you want to see how awful the OS is with Linux and without GNU, you need only try using Android23:48
reisiono it's not windows, it's just windows23:49
syadnomlol23:49
lostreisio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpxvvnWvffM23:49
kuba7447i respect stallman but if a user want to use proprietary software....23:49
reisiokuba7447: yes?23:49
reisioit's that user's choice, that's the beauty of free software23:49
kuba7447gnu is 8% of the os, linux is about 10%23:49
reisiolost: oh wow, on youtube23:49
syadnomstallman is the Al Gore of software.  so headstrong for 'free' that he chases everyone else off23:50
reisiokuba7447: nope23:50
reisioyes, annoying Stallman who created the OS you're using :p23:50
syadnomkuba7447, where did you get those numbers?  made up or is there an article you read?23:50
lostyeah i was surprised too23:50
kuba7447so ironic how stallman fights for freedom but forbids to use proprietary software23:50
reisiolost: this is just in time, I ran out of eps of the series I was watching23:50
reisiokuba7447: since he's not in charge of everyone, and knows this, it's irrelevant23:51
reisiolost: weekly, oy23:51
syadnomstallmans crew did a good job on a lot of those utilites for sure, but they guy has taken it way too far.23:51
zykotick9kuba7447: actually, stallman argues against the creators of non-free sofware, NOT the users (who are victims)23:51
lostreisio: theres only 1 epi of this but its good23:51
reisiolost: yeah, I couldn't watch Breaking Bad originally because a week is too long23:51
reisioI'll watch the first ep, though :)23:51
lostreisio: i concur23:52
reisioso usa is putting its shows on youtube now or what?23:52
kuba7447we all want linux to be successful , i prefer open software but there is nothing wrong with using propiatery software23:52
lostreisio: its definitely worth watching i loved it23:52
syadnomkuba7447, linux is wildly successful is it not?23:53
kuba74471.5% of desktops, ehhhhh23:53
syadnomunless you mean you want *linux to dethrone Windows23:53
reisiolost: :)23:53
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reisioyes, you _can_ use proprietary software and only waste your own time23:53
reisiothough if you're in a position of power you can waste many other people's :p23:54
syadnomI think the fundamental problem with *linux (in regards to replacing Windows) is that it's appropraite to put the * in front of it.  which linux do you want to win??23:54
lostreisio: i dont think there putting there shows on youtube but i think they just trying to get more publicity23:54
reisiono particular distro needs to win23:54
reisiolost: hrmrmrmrmrm23:54
lostreisio:but im glad they did23:55
syadnomif you write a software package, you have to either package it for a bunch of distros (filesystem layouts, init scripts blah blah) or hope it's hot enough that someone else packages it for you :/23:55
kuba7447i hate how fedora dosent allow you to use propiatery software, but there is always korora23:55
reisiowhere 'hot enough' means a useful contribution at all23:55
reisiothat's right, only useful contributions are appreciated :p23:55
reisio't'was ever thus23:55
syadnomI don't have a problem with proprietary software, I have a problem with proprietary formats.23:56
kuba7447formats?23:56
syadnomfile formats23:56
lostEriC^^: do you know how to install ubuntu in uefi mode?23:56
kuba7447for example?23:57
EriC^^lost: yeha23:57
EriC^^*yeah23:57
syadnomthe trap isn't in using proprietary software, it's in being bound to that software with a file format that cannot be used with something else23:57
EriC^^lost: is windows booting right now?23:57
syadnomdocx, xlsx for example23:57
syadnomrely on reverse engineering a format and then the format evolves intentionally to thwart compatability23:57
lostEriC^^: even tho i have it installed in legacy mode right now how could i do it while i have it already installed and do i have to have a efi file or somthing like that?23:58
syadnomanother one is the quickbooks database format23:58
EriC^^lost: windows and ubuntu both need to be installed in either legacy mode or uefi23:58
syadnomyou are all but trapped on quickbooks :/23:58
EriC^^lost: you can't have 1 in uefi and 1 in legacy, it'll be hell23:58
kuba7447what happened to wayland?23:58
syadnomkuba7447, its still limping along23:59
lostEriC^^: i removed windows but i wanna get ubuntu to uefi and remove it from legacy and thats why i asked it in that context23:59
kuba7447so , we wont see wayland for a long time?23:59

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